This stream was a blast & I really hope it enables other people to appreciate & enjoy Tenkaichi as much as I do. Cheers, everyone, & thanks for all the support! Love you, Globku. 💙
@@blackche1580I dont think that should totally count. I mean.... Its a laser beam, soo yeah. Now when the players know the names for the laser cannon/laser scraper strings, or somehow know the name for every throw King has, I'd say its still pretty impressive. Especially since they never announce their moves like Street Fighter.
Tenkaichi 1 didn't age as well but playing Tenkaichi 1 for the first time as a child / early teen was mindblowing. I remember going to gamestop and seeing a playable demo. I grabbed the controller and within minutes of playing it I immediately thought it was one of the most fun games I had ever played and is actually what made me become a fan of DBZ.
Budokai 2 was my first Dragon Ball game so I didn't like Tenkaichi, it didn't feel as complete with less characters and no transformations. Fortunately my parents got Tenkaichi 1 and 2 because they were cheap, Tenkaichi 2 must've been crazy when it was new
@@xxghastlytonerxx even Tenkaichi one was crazy when it was new. My first game was Budokai 1 and I played all 3 of those and then Tenkaichi came out with the 3d environments. It was like being in the anime. We all have different tastes. Tenkaichi 2 was an upgrade of course since it's a sequel but tenkaichi 1 was better than all the budokai's imo.. bt3 I'm not even going to compare because it just improved on what bt2 was
@@Chiefland7 It seems like Tenkaichi was a hit or miss niche game like the other PS2 DBZ games while Tenkaichi 2 and 3 elevated the series into being THE Dragon Ball games to have, I’d still pick Tenkaichi 1 over Dragon Ball Z Sagas and Super Dragon Ball Z, but not over Infinite World or Budokai 3
Tenkaichi 1 was a revolutionary anime game, the very first proper arena fighter with movement freedom and large roster, tho it didnt age well it still managed to set the foundations for the two other sequels that got better from one to another chronologically so ihave high respect and appreciation for the 1st game. From the looks of it, Sparking Zero is looking promising and a proper follow up to the legacy of the BT trilogy but ireally hope oneday BNE releases a BT HD Trilogy like the Budokai collection they did on 2012, iwanna play BT2 and 3 on my ps5 while also having Sparking Zero coexisting on my console
You will never get that. I don't know how old you are but way back in 2012 when I was a senior in high school the producers were asked why they never made an hd collection for Tenkaichi like they did with the Budokai series and they said it's because they no longer have the original files from the old games and the company was merging with what we nee now to be chunsoft.. that's why everything had to be done from scratch in order for us to get another Tenkaichi.. thankfully we at least get sparking zero. I can't wait
Also add that in Tenkaichi 2 you can block in all directions, in bt3 they removed that and u can only block up down and neutral, that was 1 of the things I missed in bt3, I can understand the reasons but it was cool to block to the sides in bt2 still
@@killshot1994 idk really, I think it's because you have many other options in bt3 to evade the side smashes and they remove side block to give more chance to break guards, in bt2 you didn't had sonic sway or the Z-counter, you can also just press X to step forward and dodge the side smash, or simply time O to vanish, maybe was bc of that.
@@YoYofua the Z-Counter is kinda in BT2. It only works while facing the opponent and doesn't smash the opponent away, but rather adds just a regular punch after. We call it a Combo Breaker. BT3 also removed Move Cancels (All chargable melee moves can be cancelled) and Counter types, idk why tthe devs decided to take those things out
@@extremelegendsupreme4596 move cancels have a chapter in the in-game tutorial, so it's a 100% intentional game mechanic I also went through the game's code using Ghidra and can confirm that there is code specifically to make this mechanic run, including a counter for each successful cancel (tho idk where this is used yet)
Please do more collabs with grandmasterhawk!!!! He deserves to be better known for his skill. Do another vid with the title implying his rank in N.A.. People don’t even know pro players exist
I actually knew most of the combo routes that was covered in the livestream from playing sooo much of BT3 back in the day, mainly from practicing it all from the combo menus, so it was great to learn about the tech that's not directly mentioned in the game that the community figured out that I never saw! My only concern with getting back into Sparking Zero is that, ... um ... well, I actually played BT2 & BT3 on the Wii w/ motion controls (Wii-mote and Nunchuck, not a GameCube or standard controller). Sooo, I hope my game knowledge and muscle memory will still work on a standard controller, lol.
The game is similar but still kind of different in alot of ways too so it's not even really going to matter. You're still going to have to learn the new game. I play tenkaichi 3 till this day and I'm still going to have to experiment and learn the new combat system in sparking zero
Really interesting video, love tenkaichi 2, it brings back so much memories. I’ve noted that some tech (10:15 for exemple) are present in Jump Force, probably because it is Spike Chunsoft and some developpers are common between those games. All the vanish tech, up tilt, down tilt thing, infinite combo cancel are also present.
Bro in Sparking Zero I'm gonna say "eat this HEAVY FINISH" and it'll do 2x the damage Anyway, 2 useless but fun BT2 facts 1 when shooting a chargeable B2 beam you can influence the direction it will fire by holding any of the 8 directions and the beam will fire that direction (only really useful for a hard read) 2 during a beam clash you can spend any spare meter you have to get a massive boost during the clash, but once your meter hits 0 you're unable to defend youself both during the clash and after (assuming your ki hits 0 during the boost) Fun fact about number 2, this feature is being brought back to Sparking Zero as seen on Seereax's video
I think it's crazy that 7 year old me just figured all this out and 25 year old me can pick it up after years and still do it. Im bout to make so much money off sparking zero
This is something in the old Tenkaichi games that I really love, how impactful your opponent reacts to your combos, how you can feel the weight from both characters while performing them, and I see very few ppl saying this, but that is precisely what I think is lacking in Sparking Zero gameplay up to what we could see. Sometimes it feels like they're punching cotton bags or smthing, it might also be due to the fact that I haven't played it yet so that feeling could change later. (Please don't roast me if you don't agree with me, Im aware that's why it's called a DEMO and all of that 😊).
Always good to see a mainstream dbz RUclipsr get educated ! Been a fan of warhawk since the old days of RUclips . Hope you can train more people so we can decrease the button mashing
Really interesting video. Have you considered also putting Raging Blast 1 and 2 into this mix since they're both technically a part of the "Sparking" games? And they have some interesting differences.
To be fair to yourself, there isn't really a tutorial for most of the combos. Practice mode is very barebones, and only goes over the basics. You kind of just have to learn the game as you play.
You can also cancel chargeable melee attacks and use those cancels to link, whereas BT3 removed move cancels altogether, you could use the same type of light smash or charged ki blast more than once in your combo, which was also removed in BT3, Flying Kicks also ended the combo if used anywhere outside the first rush set, which was (thankfully) fixed in BT3, BT2 had the Rolling Hammer use its own Left/Right + Triangle input instead of being tied to the Rush set like in BT3 If you wanna learn more about BT2, that's my domain, I got some videos on the game
I love the topic of this video. Seeing the evolution. Im literally replaying all the Tenkaichi games because of the new one coming up. Its been so many years since i played them especially the first two of the trilogy. Its been a nostalgia party and i love all of them. Legendary games
okay somethin in tenkaichi 1 that i figured out as a kid that you can keep spamming the square combo but doing it and then pressing circle+ a directional button, either right or left cuz it will reset your combo, i used to do that infinitely
I would also recommend the Tenkaichi 4 mod if you haven't played the latest version yet, Team BT4 went all in with various mechanics brought back from 2 as well as a slew of new combo follow ups and transformation system(costing ki instead of blast stocks) and the aerial clash(story mode only in BT3) being added in and manual taunts that decrease ki, as well as rush avoidance bonuses(+1 blast stock) and z-counter bonuses(full bar of ki upon successful z-counter). Feels completely different from original BT3 guaranteed, methinks it very well might be just as enjoyable as Sparking Zero and i highly recommend it if you want maximum Tenkaichi competitive depth value 👌👍
the Ki bonus on a sucessful ZC turns it into a really bad defensive option The ZC has always favored less Ki (the one with less Ki is guaranteed to get a punish off if they can time the teleports) and BT4 giving only you, the user, full Ki, means the opponent can keep their Ki low and essentially nullify all ZCs you do. Obviously, transformations now using Ki only helps in making this even worse, since those also take away Ki. The Aerial Clash after a long ZC chain also sucks, because now the ZC user must also win the QTE battle just to be able to draw an advantage out of it. TeamBT4 also made the EBW cost 9.000 HP for no reason (seriously, why was that necessary) and added Rushing Technique follow-ups that are all teleportable and thus less useful in a PVP match This is why the competitive scene doesn't really like the mod, it just worsens defensive mechanics while giving you offensive options that you can get punished for using
I remember learning Tenkaichi 3 somewhat well, at least compared to all the other DBZ fighting games I had at that age- there was ultimately still a lot of mashing involved if memory serves. I remember really enjoying the blast combos, though. And I even knew about the jumping destructo disc! But I definitely remember never figuring out the Sonic Sway or the combo breaker.
I knew most of this stuff from when I was I kid but it was so interesting hearing about these movement techs and cancels. I actually want to try that aerial rush (I think that's what he called it) into ki blasts.
It may not be the competitive fighting game that FighterZ is, but the movement in this series is exactly what I think modern arena fighters are sorely missing and can learn a lot from (even if lore reasons may prevent the exact mechanics). It gives a unique flair to the game and provides actual worth to have 3 axes of movement. Speaking of which, Budokai is definitely not a 2D game, Glob 😅. It's still a 3D game, with 3 dimensions of movement. It's even set up like Tekken (not in the actual game mechanics, but the character positioning and basic movement). Butoden or FighterZ counts as 2D games as they only have 2 dimensions of movement.
I remember being so confused when I saw Janemba in BT1 because Fusion Reborn had not been dubbed when the game came out. I also remember the What If story where the villains banded together to fight the heroes.
I prefer DBBT2 mainly because of the intro, the intro is so ELITE that I’d watch it fully before even playing, I’m really hoping they nail the intro sparking 0
I played Budokai 3 first then went to Tenkaichi 2 skipping 1. For some reason skipped 3 because of a lot of other games to play. The when RB1 was released I immediately bought and played this and after that RB2. So basically BT2 is my Tenkaichi game.
It's crazy that i knew ALL OF THESE MECHANICS and tech except for the crazy BT2 infinite, R1+X frame perfect dashing, and the names of all this sh lmao
I never knew about that full power triangle spam move, that's awesome. Really curious to see how much of this stuff will be brought into Sparking Zero.
See the difference is that Hawk understands the combat system, whereas Flandrew didn't mention a single game mechanic or system change BT2 added, and only described its gameplay as "very similar to the first game"
I'm certainly not at the level of Hawk, but some of these moves and combos (especially in BT3) I do them often, even though I mostly play against AI, seeing someone that knows them and more, makes me glad someone fully understands it, because I always felt like BT3 had a lot of deep under the surface which I love so much
Bt2 is my favourite combat system I know 3 is more advanced but I just found it too defensive and not enjoyable bt2 will always be my favourite fighting mechanics
There was too much to go over during the stream & we were more fixated on the casual aspect for you guys. There were things I didn't get to show him in BT2 & 3.
I remember buying tenkaichi 1 and thinking it was wonky but I approached the 3D and effort One of the Rare people whose favorite is Tenkaichi 2 to me it was the perfect balance
There really isn't a training mode. Like it only goes over basic moves and counters. There's not even a section on beam clashes in Tenkaichi 2. All you have to go by is the combo list and skill options, and it's pretty understandable why kids who are playing the game don't pick up on all the other things you can do.
@@Luke21-xk7uh understandable for kids, I'm sure but when adults playing these games don't even check out the in-game tutorial and then talk about the games' depth, I dunno man, maybe that's a lil stupid. Not talking about Globku, just people in general
@@_jagger1407 most people who played Tenkaichi, probably haven't played it since they were kids. I finally got my hands on bt2 again last year and it was like a whole new experience. I learned most of the moves by just experimenting with button combos. Hopefully Sparking Zero has an in depth training mode for new players.
Budokai Tenkaichi/ Sparking! will always be the best DB game series. no game has come nearly close to the fights u can experience here. Ultimate DB Simulator.
Considering people know like the entire the Pokémon move pool, people just knowing the names of fighting game moves beyond the famous ones sounds really reasonable to me.
This is the first time I see Tenkaichi 1. I remember not trying it out at the time because the general opinion was that Budokai 3 was better, so I only checked the series when T2 came out.
Nope! We covered that, it just wasn't included. As I said in another comment, there was a LOT to go over & we could only do so much for Globku's goal for you guys. 😊
Globku i really need your help. I dont know what website, app, or whatever to pre-order Dbsz on if have anything or suggestions please comment below thank you!
This is why I find Raging Blast 2 better - you don't need bugs and deep mechanic knowledge to connect and cancel into cool combos. Most things there are intuitive and still complex enough to keep you engaged with each new character you pick (because they have different combos, unlike in Tenkaichis), so I don't get how RB2 was always treated as a mediocre DBZ game (aside of removal of the Story Mode), because combat-wise it was the best one, IMO.
This exactly why raging blast 2 is WORSE … The tech in the games makes the depth. But the game is great and deep even without the tech. but raging blast is a stripped down version of what these games offer. BT3 In particular. I’ll die on that hill, the mechanics that they changed were not worth changing .. the handful of additions weren’t worth the trade off
@@2HORNSREDEYES elaborate on how RB2 is a watered down version of Tenkaichi 3. In RB2 you can continue combo from almost any Smash attack, and Smash attacks can be performed even after sidestepping. I don't see how it's fun to make new players, who just want to plug-in and play together on a couch, have to go through a command list while you can just give them an intuitive combat mechanics. You are also saying this as if RB2 (or even 1) had low skill ceiling, so I dare you to watch some high level online battles on YT, come back, and tell me the same thing.
@@turbotrup96i mean i think both games have their merits, like the movement in Tenkaichi is superior but Raging Blast combos were the coolest in any DB game. RB movement is ass but while Tenkaichi’s combos aren’t necessarily lacking they aren’t as fun to do as in RB
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This stream was a blast & I really hope it enables other people to appreciate & enjoy Tenkaichi as much as I do. Cheers, everyone, & thanks for all the support! Love you, Globku. 💙
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Mr hawk man good job
Yo hi hawk, amazing stream
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¿Why wasn't Tag Team included? I know it is mostly watered-down T3, but the Tag mechanic makes a lot of things more interesting.
"No fighting game player knows the name of every move"
Oh globku, you underestimate tekken players
No tekken pro knows the name of every move mostliterally just call jins laser plain out laserbeam when thats not the name
@@blackche1580I dont think that should totally count. I mean.... Its a laser beam, soo yeah. Now when the players know the names for the laser cannon/laser scraper strings, or somehow know the name for every throw King has, I'd say its still pretty impressive. Especially since they never announce their moves like Street Fighter.
Tenkaichi 1 didn't age as well but playing Tenkaichi 1 for the first time as a child / early teen was mindblowing.
I remember going to gamestop and seeing a playable demo. I grabbed the controller and within minutes of playing it I immediately thought it was one of the most fun games I had ever played and is actually what made me become a fan of DBZ.
It's still more fun than xenoverse
@Rocka7038 fr man.. it's so different now lol
Budokai 2 was my first Dragon Ball game so I didn't like Tenkaichi, it didn't feel as complete with less characters and no transformations. Fortunately my parents got Tenkaichi 1 and 2 because they were cheap, Tenkaichi 2 must've been crazy when it was new
@@xxghastlytonerxx even Tenkaichi one was crazy when it was new. My first game was Budokai 1 and I played all 3 of those and then Tenkaichi came out with the 3d environments. It was like being in the anime. We all have different tastes. Tenkaichi 2 was an upgrade of course since it's a sequel but tenkaichi 1 was better than all the budokai's imo.. bt3 I'm not even going to compare because it just improved on what bt2 was
@@Chiefland7 It seems like Tenkaichi was a hit or miss niche game like the other PS2 DBZ games while Tenkaichi 2 and 3 elevated the series into being THE Dragon Ball games to have, I’d still pick Tenkaichi 1 over Dragon Ball Z Sagas and Super Dragon Ball Z, but not over Infinite World or Budokai 3
This video might unintentionally be one of the best BT2 tutorials
Hey I also got some stuff on my channel, one of the last BT2 players left since everyone chooses BT3
Tenkaichi 1 was a revolutionary anime game, the very first proper arena fighter with movement freedom and large roster, tho it didnt age well it still managed to set the foundations for the two other sequels that got better from one to another chronologically so ihave high respect and appreciation for the 1st game.
From the looks of it, Sparking Zero is looking promising and a proper follow up to the legacy of the BT trilogy but ireally hope oneday BNE releases a BT HD Trilogy like the Budokai collection they did on 2012, iwanna play BT2 and 3 on my ps5 while also having Sparking Zero coexisting on my console
You will never get that. I don't know how old you are but way back in 2012 when I was a senior in high school the producers were asked why they never made an hd collection for Tenkaichi like they did with the Budokai series and they said it's because they no longer have the original files from the old games and the company was merging with what we nee now to be chunsoft.. that's why everything had to be done from scratch in order for us to get another Tenkaichi.. thankfully we at least get sparking zero. I can't wait
Lol I just booted up BT3 last night and this video is exactly what I needed 🙏🏾
I'm happy it helped you! Have fun!
Globku just brought about the training arc for all the homies before the release of sparking zero
I had all 3 at one point of time if I could, I’d tell my younger self NEVER sell any of your games and memory cards!!!
Also add that in Tenkaichi 2 you can block in all directions, in bt3 they removed that and u can only block up down and neutral, that was 1 of the things I missed in bt3, I can understand the reasons but it was cool to block to the sides in bt2 still
Why did they removed it? The attack animations for side attacks still exist
@@killshot1994 idk really, I think it's because you have many other options in bt3 to evade the side smashes and they remove side block to give more chance to break guards, in bt2 you didn't had sonic sway or the Z-counter, you can also just press X to step forward and dodge the side smash, or simply time O to vanish, maybe was bc of that.
@@YoYofua the Z-Counter is kinda in BT2. It only works while facing the opponent and doesn't smash the opponent away, but rather adds just a regular punch after. We call it a Combo Breaker.
BT3 also removed Move Cancels (All chargable melee moves can be cancelled) and Counter types, idk why tthe devs decided to take those things out
@@_jagger1407I’m 99% sure cancels in bt2 were just an oversight by the devs not something they intended to be there
@@extremelegendsupreme4596 move cancels have a chapter in the in-game tutorial, so it's a 100% intentional game mechanic
I also went through the game's code using Ghidra and can confirm that there is code specifically to make this mechanic run, including a counter for each successful cancel (tho idk where this is used yet)
I love how the guy keeps getting crushed everytime Globku actually gets something in the first try😭
I don’t see it
Crushed? ME??? Never! Only happiness for friend!
now let's see him do any of that in an online match and not on a training dummy lol
Please do more collabs with grandmasterhawk!!!! He deserves to be better known for his skill. Do another vid with the title implying his rank in N.A.. People don’t even know pro players exist
MY NIGGA MP! ONGG
THEY DONT KNOW WHAT THESE TECH COMBOS DO.
ITS BEAUTIFUL
I actually knew most of the combo routes that was covered in the livestream from playing sooo much of BT3 back in the day, mainly from practicing it all from the combo menus, so it was great to learn about the tech that's not directly mentioned in the game that the community figured out that I never saw!
My only concern with getting back into Sparking Zero is that, ... um ... well, I actually played BT2 & BT3 on the Wii w/ motion controls (Wii-mote and Nunchuck, not a GameCube or standard controller). Sooo, I hope my game knowledge and muscle memory will still work on a standard controller, lol.
The game is similar but still kind of different in alot of ways too so it's not even really going to matter. You're still going to have to learn the new game. I play tenkaichi 3 till this day and I'm still going to have to experiment and learn the new combat system in sparking zero
I've been waiting for a video like this from Globku for a long time.
19:11 in all my childhood I have NEVER SEEN THAT BEFORE WTH
That sway out technique was my favorite thing to do it’ll even negate rush supers if you time it right
Love seeing Hawk getting his props on here. Knew about him and Snapholic since 2010.
Hawk seems like a really cool dude. just subbed to his channel.
Thank you so much! 💙
You should also try Raging Blast because it seems that Sparking Zero have things for that games too
Really interesting video, love tenkaichi 2, it brings back so much memories. I’ve noted that some tech (10:15 for exemple) are present in Jump Force, probably because it is Spike Chunsoft and some developpers are common between those games. All the vanish tech, up tilt, down tilt thing, infinite combo cancel are also present.
Been playing these since they released! Talk about quality❤❤❤
surprised i actually learned something new in bt3, that dash tech is insane
tenkaichi 3 is a masterpiece and a massive improvement from the previous games. it's truly an amazing and enjoyable game
Bro in Sparking Zero I'm gonna say "eat this HEAVY FINISH" and it'll do 2x the damage
Anyway, 2 useless but fun BT2 facts
1 when shooting a chargeable B2 beam you can influence the direction it will fire by holding any of the 8 directions and the beam will fire that direction (only really useful for a hard read)
2 during a beam clash you can spend any spare meter you have to get a massive boost during the clash, but once your meter hits 0 you're unable to defend youself both during the clash and after (assuming your ki hits 0 during the boost)
Fun fact about number 2, this feature is being brought back to Sparking Zero as seen on Seereax's video
Finally someone who mentioned this from the tenkaichi series only bt2 had it
For a second I thought it was an Episode of "Ranking the Dragonball Games"
I think it's crazy that 7 year old me just figured all this out and 25 year old me can pick it up after years and still do it. Im bout to make so much money off sparking zero
So cool seeing the advanced mechanics get recognized
I don’t know why spike didn’t carry over the sparking combo from bt2, I actually loved it
It's distracting... Way too much camera movement
They could improve it tho
That Vegeta Twerking got me 😂😂 It should become a meme
This is something in the old Tenkaichi games that I really love, how impactful your opponent reacts to your combos, how you can feel the weight from both characters while performing them, and I see very few ppl saying this, but that is precisely what I think is lacking in Sparking Zero gameplay up to what we could see. Sometimes it feels like they're punching cotton bags or smthing, it might also be due to the fact that I haven't played it yet so that feeling could change later.
(Please don't roast me if you don't agree with me, Im aware that's why it's called a DEMO and all of that 😊).
Always good to see a mainstream dbz RUclipsr get educated ! Been a fan of warhawk since the old days of RUclips . Hope you can train more people so we can decrease the button mashing
29:01 I manage to learn the r1 ki blast combo reset or extender. It gonna come in handy when I start playing bt3 or bt4 (modded) or sparking zero.
love hawk man glad to see him on the channel
Damn I've been doing all these back in the day not even knowing these where 😂
Really interesting video. Have you considered also putting Raging Blast 1 and 2 into this mix since they're both technically a part of the "Sparking" games? And they have some interesting differences.
While they share similarities they're not a part of the Sparking series.
Cool vid man 👍
I just learned that BT2 has a second combo after 15 years…
To be fair to yourself, there isn't really a tutorial for most of the combos. Practice mode is very barebones, and only goes over the basics. You kind of just have to learn the game as you play.
You can also cancel chargeable melee attacks and use those cancels to link, whereas BT3 removed move cancels altogether, you could use the same type of light smash or charged ki blast more than once in your combo, which was also removed in BT3, Flying Kicks also ended the combo if used anywhere outside the first rush set, which was (thankfully) fixed in BT3, BT2 had the Rolling Hammer use its own Left/Right + Triangle input instead of being tied to the Rush set like in BT3
If you wanna learn more about BT2, that's my domain, I got some videos on the game
I love the topic of this video. Seeing the evolution. Im literally replaying all the Tenkaichi games because of the new one coming up. Its been so many years since i played them especially the first two of the trilogy. Its been a nostalgia party and i love all of them. Legendary games
happy to revisit the bt games, thank you Globku and the legendary Hawk
okay somethin in tenkaichi 1 that i figured out as a kid that you can keep spamming the square combo but doing it and then pressing circle+ a directional button, either right or left cuz it will reset your combo, i used to do that infinitely
Pretty cool he knows all the names
Can tell he's been through the menu a lot
I actually haven't. xD I've just been blessed that I have an incredible memory. The only menu I spent any significant time in was Tenkaichi 2's.
“erm it’s actually called heavy finish 🤓☝️”
Exactly bro 💀
Wait I played Tenkaichi 1 when it came out on PS2 until Tenkaichi 2 came out and I never noticed that combo bar under the map WTH 😂
I will always be a BT2 stan
real
I would also recommend the Tenkaichi 4 mod if you haven't played the latest version yet, Team BT4 went all in with various mechanics brought back from 2 as well as a slew of new combo follow ups and transformation system(costing ki instead of blast stocks) and the aerial clash(story mode only in BT3) being added in and manual taunts that decrease ki, as well as rush avoidance bonuses(+1 blast stock) and z-counter bonuses(full bar of ki upon successful z-counter). Feels completely different from original BT3 guaranteed, methinks it very well might be just as enjoyable as Sparking Zero and i highly recommend it if you want maximum Tenkaichi competitive depth value 👌👍
the Ki bonus on a sucessful ZC turns it into a really bad defensive option
The ZC has always favored less Ki (the one with less Ki is guaranteed to get a punish off if they can time the teleports) and BT4 giving only you, the user, full Ki, means the opponent can keep their Ki low and essentially nullify all ZCs you do. Obviously, transformations now using Ki only helps in making this even worse, since those also take away Ki. The Aerial Clash after a long ZC chain also sucks, because now the ZC user must also win the QTE battle just to be able to draw an advantage out of it.
TeamBT4 also made the EBW cost 9.000 HP for no reason (seriously, why was that necessary) and added Rushing Technique follow-ups that are all teleportable and thus less useful in a PVP match
This is why the competitive scene doesn't really like the mod, it just worsens defensive mechanics while giving you offensive options that you can get punished for using
Great video! I need this to understand the combat more! Also you forgot to link Hawk's channel
thanks to this video i finally found the explanation on how to recombo with the dragon homing attacks after 10 years of playing this game lmao
I remember learning Tenkaichi 3 somewhat well, at least compared to all the other DBZ fighting games I had at that age- there was ultimately still a lot of mashing involved if memory serves. I remember really enjoying the blast combos, though. And I even knew about the jumping destructo disc! But I definitely remember never figuring out the Sonic Sway or the combo breaker.
I knew most of this stuff from when I was I kid but it was so interesting hearing about these movement techs and cancels. I actually want to try that aerial rush (I think that's what he called it) into ki blasts.
I remember playing so much Budokai Tenkaichi 1 on my birthday, with my brother. We played it until the sun came up. Good memories.
It may not be the competitive fighting game that FighterZ is, but the movement in this series is exactly what I think modern arena fighters are sorely missing and can learn a lot from (even if lore reasons may prevent the exact mechanics). It gives a unique flair to the game and provides actual worth to have 3 axes of movement.
Speaking of which, Budokai is definitely not a 2D game, Glob 😅. It's still a 3D game, with 3 dimensions of movement. It's even set up like Tekken (not in the actual game mechanics, but the character positioning and basic movement). Butoden or FighterZ counts as 2D games as they only have 2 dimensions of movement.
I remember being so confused when I saw Janemba in BT1 because Fusion Reborn had not been dubbed when the game came out. I also remember the What If story where the villains banded together to fight the heroes.
I prefer DBBT2 mainly because of the intro, the intro is so ELITE that I’d watch it fully before even playing, I’m really hoping they nail the intro sparking 0
Combat in tenkaichi 3 was good and improved but hit impact was bad compared to tenkaichi 2
I played Budokai 3 first then went to Tenkaichi 2 skipping 1.
For some reason skipped 3 because of a lot of other games to play. The when RB1 was released I immediately bought and played this and after that RB2. So basically BT2 is my Tenkaichi game.
My core memories won’t let me call this any but budokai tenkaichi 5 😭😭🫡🔥💯
Oh- wow. This was a nostalgic trip lol
Tenkaichi 2 is my favorite just because of the ost ALONE. Not to mention it had the best db story mode back in the day.
It's crazy that i knew ALL OF THESE MECHANICS and tech except for the crazy BT2 infinite, R1+X frame perfect dashing, and the names of all this sh lmao
I never knew about that full power triangle spam move, that's awesome. Really curious to see how much of this stuff will be brought into Sparking Zero.
Didn’t @Flandrew already make a video about this?
See the difference is that Hawk understands the combat system, whereas Flandrew didn't mention a single game mechanic or system change BT2 added, and only described its gameplay as "very similar to the first game"
I'm certainly not at the level of Hawk, but some of these moves and combos (especially in BT3) I do them often, even though I mostly play against AI, seeing someone that knows them and more, makes me glad someone fully understands it, because I always felt like BT3 had a lot of deep under the surface which I love so much
Anybody knew all the cheese from their childhood? This was one game i would play for hours and jss lab all day everyday, very needed refresher😂🖤
Goku mid was my favourite version just because of his he tri attack. You could delay it to stop a counter
Bt2 is my favourite combat system I know 3 is more advanced but I just found it too defensive and not enjoyable bt2 will always be my favourite fighting mechanics
19:10 Never have I seen anyone use this move. That was absolute anime right there.
As far as I know, you can only do this move in Tenkaichi 2
surprised at myself to actually learn almost everything in this video as a child
Lett goo how ya feeling globku with covid
I'm surprised he didn't mention the timed unblockable and the parry in BT3?
There was too much to go over during the stream & we were more fixated on the casual aspect for you guys. There were things I didn't get to show him in BT2 & 3.
I remembered all these from when I was a kid how the hell did I learn that shit at like 10
6:09 yeah, you are the crazy one,
tenkaichi 3 is superior, period
I remember buying tenkaichi 1 and thinking it was wonky but I approached the 3D and effort
One of the Rare people whose favorite is Tenkaichi 2 to me it was the perfect balance
I feel ya @grandmasterhawk I can’t recall all of them but I definitely refer to them as they name
This dude is definitely obsessed
15:21 i would love for this tech to be a thing in DBSZ. Maybe just make it cost more ki to do and make it maybe a 4-6 frame input instead of 1
In sparking zero compared to tenkaichi camera is to far away for you?
And honestly anyone who properly sat down with these games should know most of these moves because the game literally tells you
There really isn't a training mode. Like it only goes over basic moves and counters. There's not even a section on beam clashes in Tenkaichi 2. All you have to go by is the combo list and skill options, and it's pretty understandable why kids who are playing the game don't pick up on all the other things you can do.
@@Luke21-xk7uh understandable for kids, I'm sure
but when adults playing these games don't even check out the in-game tutorial and then talk about the games' depth, I dunno man, maybe that's a lil stupid. Not talking about Globku, just people in general
@@_jagger1407 most people who played Tenkaichi, probably haven't played it since they were kids. I finally got my hands on bt2 again last year and it was like a whole new experience. I learned most of the moves by just experimenting with button combos. Hopefully Sparking Zero has an in depth training mode for new players.
Bro knowing all the move names is just part of being a "professional" at the game.
I was really hoping to get into the other games in the series too
I love all the move names lmao
Budokai Tenkaichi/ Sparking! will always be the best DB game series.
no game has come nearly close to the fights u can experience here.
Ultimate DB Simulator.
دراغون بول بودوكاي ٣ كانت لعبتي مفضله و أنا متحمس لسباركنين زيرو
Considering people know like the entire the Pokémon move pool, people just knowing the names of fighting game moves beyond the famous ones sounds really reasonable to me.
Tenkiachi 2 was equivalent to the step up from Pokemon Gen 2 from gen 1. It was so much better than Tenkiachi 1 I loved it
Have to play the budkai series next
The punishment I'm going to deliver is ridiculous
It's definitely an obsession LOL
Like no one in Tekken knows the actual names of these fucking moves they just call it the number quotations 🤣
Ohp new techs to try in sparking zero...lets goo
I wish that you could do a tournament for sparking zero when it releases
I still like all the barriers are different
I laughed so much watching this 😂😂
I beat the dog shit out Hawks in a 0 supers straight hands match 😤😤
Throw hands when? 👀
@@THEGrandMasterHawk You tell me brudda. The honor is mine so I urge you to lead the dance 🧘🏾♂️
This is the first time I see Tenkaichi 1. I remember not trying it out at the time because the general opinion was that Budokai 3 was better, so I only checked the series when T2 came out.
Bro please do this for raging blast as well, i do not know anything about it combo system ( except the bt knowledge that transfers).
Heavy finish
Medamatcha
Forgot to tell you about the ground throw
Nope! We covered that, it just wasn't included. As I said in another comment, there was a LOT to go over & we could only do so much for Globku's goal for you guys. 😊
Was this inspired by a video that dude Flandrew posted
Globku i really need your help. I dont know what website, app, or whatever to pre-order Dbsz on if have anything or suggestions please comment below thank you!
Good content.
Make another, perhaps the last one roster prediction or sparking zero.
This is why I find Raging Blast 2 better - you don't need bugs and deep mechanic knowledge to connect and cancel into cool combos. Most things there are intuitive and still complex enough to keep you engaged with each new character you pick (because they have different combos, unlike in Tenkaichis), so I don't get how RB2 was always treated as a mediocre DBZ game (aside of removal of the Story Mode), because combat-wise it was the best one, IMO.
This exactly why raging blast 2 is WORSE …
The tech in the games makes the depth. But the game is great and deep even without the tech.
but raging blast is a stripped down version of what these games offer. BT3 In particular.
I’ll die on that hill, the mechanics that they changed were not worth changing .. the handful of additions weren’t worth the trade off
@@2HORNSREDEYES elaborate on how RB2 is a watered down version of Tenkaichi 3.
In RB2 you can continue combo from almost any Smash attack, and Smash attacks can be performed even after sidestepping.
I don't see how it's fun to make new players, who just want to plug-in and play together on a couch, have to go through a command list while you can just give them an intuitive combat mechanics.
You are also saying this as if RB2 (or even 1) had low skill ceiling, so I dare you to watch some high level online battles on YT, come back, and tell me the same thing.
@@turbotrup96i mean i think both games have their merits, like the movement in Tenkaichi is superior but Raging Blast combos were the coolest in any DB game. RB movement is ass but while Tenkaichi’s combos aren’t necessarily lacking they aren’t as fun to do as in RB