Tenkaichi 3, the definitive dragon ball experience. Playing with friends picking from so many characters from the series and recreating fights, fun times! Now with more crisp graphics, a larger roster and more smooth controls (not using a Wii remote) Sparking Zero can be the best
When I was a kid, I used CPU vs CPU to roleplay like my own tournaments, because I wanted them to be as “fair” and balanced as possible. Cuz if I played vs the CPU, I’d always win. So I wanted to be like “who would win between Gogeta vs Vegito” in the most “realistic” way possible. So it was basically my own little DBZ what if simulator. I still fire up CPU only matches in modern games from time to time to scratch that old itch when I’m bored. Like I wanna watch some fighting game matches but the comp players only ever pick the top tiers, so maybe I wanna see something different for once.
BROOOOO! My brother and I started playing Tenkaichi 3 again and have been talking about doing another CPU vs CPU tournament for old time's sake. We used to create a massive tournament where each "team" drafted a character and then it went on to the next pick, almost like the NFL draft. And then we'd have the teams fight against each other and see who wins the tournament. So you'd end up with like... Hirudegarn, Goku, Cooler, and Kid Trunks vs Super 17, Vegito, Piccolo, and Great Ape Bardock as the final round or something like that. 😂We wrote them out on a Cincinnati Bengals paper pad cube in tony writing and crossed out the losers... oh yeah this is the best DBZ game imo. So fun being mindless losers back in the day. Lets do it again every now and then, yeah? 🤣
Litteraly, love watching Bob lennon's (French content creator/streamer) Torneo de Poder. It's a Tournament of Power but on a crazy modded BT3. It's really really funny 😂
Regarding the COM vs COM fights and who they are for: me and my little brother used to put on COM vs COM battles in the Tenkaichi games and sit back and eat snacks and watch them like they were a TV show or something. We even made our own tournaments and alternate histories where he would pick a fighter and I would make a bracket of fighters for his COM to fight and if he won all I'd own him some candy or we would start with the Raditz saga and let the coms battle and create a random alternate history like this. We of course finished the games as well but yeah, better, simpler and more precious times 😊
Something to add on in regards to BT3's story mode, there are a lot of hidden What If senarios beyond the What-If Saga if you win or lose specific fights in specific ways. Many people have probably encountered as least one of these but there are a shocking amount of them. You can have Roshi beat Broly if Goku falls and again in GT where Pan takes over when SS4 Goku loses to Baby. You can have Goku beat Majin Vegeta which will cause him to go and beat Dabura. If Majin Vegeta beats Buu, he will go on to fight Babidi. Probably the most bizzare, if you beat King Piccolo without using all the button prompts, Tamborine suddenly comes back to life and then Chichi shows up to kill him.
15:00 I'm a CPU vs. CPU main, no, I'm not joking. My friends and I are all at extremely different skill levels in various fighting games, and we all get varying levels of enjoyment out of those types of games, resulting in us avoiding them... Eventually, we realized that pitting CPUs against each other was super entertaining to watch and joke about... to the extent where we started constructing lore and ongoing rivalries and artificial tournaments across completely different games (we now mainly use a heavily modded version of smash ultimate.) To the extent that now one of my friends is writing a book about it, it's pretty fun... but it's also more akin to watching a long-running series at this point rather than actually playing the game.
Actually, Kenji Yamamoto was NOT responsible for Budokai Tenkaichi 2 and 3. In fact, they grabbed music from those games to replace plagiarized music in the Budokai HD collection and Raging Blast. One name that comes to mind when thinking of these game's composers is Takanori Arima who I'm pretty sure is still working on DB games to this day.
Oh wow, you're right! I think I got my wires crossed with Raging Blast 2, which I distinctly remember getting an update to replace it's music after launch.
@@NiosaiYamamoto also offers the plagiarized music for Dragon Ball Z Kai AKA Dragon Ball Kai during the time of the Vegeta up to the middle of Cell Saga’s climax (Kai Episodes 1 up to 95) while airing in Japan
Yeah, Takanori Arima primarily worked on Tenkaichi 2, while Toshiyuki Kishi worked on Tenkaichi 3, Tag Team and Raging Blast 1. Both composers have been on multiple Dragon Ball games ever since, Including FighterZ
The CPU vs. CPU comment tickled my funny bone like you have no idea. What led me to this video was Twitch channel point gambling on CPU vs. CPU fights for Tenkaichi 3. It was a grand old time. The best moment had to be when we had a Human Z-Fighters vs. Broly and a Saibaman. Yamcha was doing WORK on Broly. Broly tags in Saibaman. Saibaman starts schooling Yamcha and Yamcha just TAGS OUT. HE KNEW WHAT WAS COMING. It was great.
Has anyone else noticed that both Budokai 3 and Budokai Tenkaichi 3's opening feature Gogeta fighting Broly years before ot would become canon? Talk about prophetic.
I’m almost certain those cinematics were the seeds that grew into the concept behind DBS: Broly and the overwhelmingly positive fan response. Ever since the days of Budokai Tenkaichi being the peak of DBZ’s zeitgeist in North America (since the show’s run had ended and the last couple of movies were slowly making their way here) people have been salivating over seeing Gogeta vs Broly, the GOATs of DBZ heavy hitters, fighting in an animated form.
On the CPU vs CPU element, there was actually an entire community built around CPU battles called the Dragon Ball Z League for several years. It had the BT3 roster split up into different themed teams and people on those teams got to pick which characters would be in the active roster, the order, and what customization options they had (with point limits) each week for a sports league style season. It was a great time and ran for years as a live and VOD supported community that even had its own forums and fantasy league system. Great times.
Raging Blast 1 Tournament mode has a single player vs CPU. just press triangle, it tells you at the bottom and it fills the tournament with random characters.
From what I recall, Raging Blast 2 just always did in-fight dialogue no matter what mode you were in. As long as the characters in the fight you chose were compatible, they would talk mid-fight. Say you go and play SSJ2 Goku and Majin Vegeta, they'll have special starting dialogue and talk throughout the fight. Didn't need to be in Galaxy Mode, could be in VS.
For the scripted fights in dragon history mode if you just don't follow the script and win with your own skills or specific characters you get character specific dialogues that you don't see anywhere else after winning with them which is honestly a plus imo.
33:12 To this day I do not understand how any one can look at 3's streamlined, events-mid-battle story and think, "Nah I liked it better in 2 when every Saga was padded out to 30 fights and made me sit through six loading screens per battle."
@@duarteribeiro1520 If you really need to do all the same fights again, just play in versus mode. It's no fun having to sit through multiple agonizing load screens so they can pad out one-off confrontations into way too many fights. (Broly Second Coming did NOT need to be 6 goddamn fights long.)
@@duarteribeiro1520 I didn't say I don't want a story mode, I just don't want it to be a slog to get through. 3 had the right idea with having all the major battles be full set-pieces that have the events playout within the fight. No extended loading, more interestingly animated cutscenes, they even had alternate scenes for winning fights you canonically aren't supposed to win!
Would you be surprised that lots of kids didn't actually watch the DBZ anime and their first intro was playing the story in a DBZ video game? Playing through all of that was perfect as a young kid when you want more story mode - the magic isn't broken by "erm you can just go do them in Versus mode to recreate them" because a fair few kids can't figure that out or think it's lame. I played BT2 a lot as a kid, then when we actually had reliable WiFi as a teen I watched the anime after. The extensive story mode fights were great. Maybe it's different now that I'm grown.
Fun watch! I preferred the Budokai games, but the Tenkaichi/Sparking games grew on me over time. I'm looking forward to Sparking Zero! Rest in peace, Toriyama.
In tenkaichi 2, and 1 to a lesser degree, my brother and I loved that we didn't have to stay locked on, we made our own adventures in the little maps, it is one of my favorite memories of my childhood
Yeah i'm ngl, I always hated BT1. Not being able to transform in-game always really got under my skin, and it instantly made me drop it once finding that out as a kid
I remember the day I've played BT1 for the first time. It was at my birthday party, and as far as I remember, the disc actually belong to one of my friends. I think none of us had played the original Budokai prior to that, but we sure as hell played A LOT of Final Bout on PS1 couple years earlier. Me and friends did no other thing at the party but play BT, and holy shit everyone loved. Obviously it became clear after BT2 came out that BT1 was pretty much a prototype, but in 2004? Playing a fighting game like that was really novel and exciting, no one complained. The peak came at BT3, where I inadvertently bought the japanese version (Sparking Meteor) and was BLOWN AWAY to know that it had the original soundtrack of the anime (the Kikuchi score). Not only it made everything 10 times more incredible to play, but the added characters were a dream come true to me. My favorite character to play as in Final Bout was always Kid Goku (GT) Super Saiyan, and they finally added him in BT3. Such cool memories. I really hope Sparking Zero lives up to the hype.
@@Chiefland7 IDK, the gameplay still looks too stiff and more like Xenoverse/Kakarot than BT. Also, the laughable excuse for local MP is... Well, laughable..
14:52 well i actually do love CPU VS CPU mod in old games. i do like watching them, i emulate games on my phone and this mod does help past the time during break at work when i am eating :)
Right on one time on the bt3 message board I held a midget tournament which was exactly what it sounded like: all the super short fighters competing for strongest midget
On CPU v CPU, there's a fantasy sport league thing for BT3 called DBZ League. It's pretty amusing. Basically custom built characters under specific themed teams duking it out.
2 was definitely my most played one, when I was a kid that’s the only one I had and my god I probably 100% the game 2-3 times, I remember doing all the “what if” scenarios, getting every wish from shenron, unlocking every character and stage…must’ve spent hundreds of hours on this when I was a kid Edit: I take that back, I actually remember begging my mom to take me to GameStop to get 3 and played the shit out of that one too, it’s probably been like 15 years so kinda got them mixed together in my head
Budokai Tenkaichi was probably the best Dragon Ball Z game I’ve ever played, i recently sold it at a retro game store and they gave me more money for that than every other game/ accessories I sold to them and ps1
I used to play the first Budokia Tenkaichi game with my brother on the PS2 when we were younger. Now that I'm older and living on my own for a few years, seeing dragon ball sparking was and instant nostalgia hit. Though it's not the exact same game it's so much fun to go back and relive those old memories. Especially since I don't really see my brothers that much anymore.
Tenkaichi 3 is the reason why I got into dragon ball z after getting it for Christmas and not even wanting to play it at first bc I thought it would be lame. Until one day I got bored and was hooked ever since. Then I remember I ended up wanting tenkaichi tag team for the longest. I would beg my parents everyday to take me and even the days that I went, it ended up being a lot farther away from my house. As soon as I started playing it, I never stopped until I basically 1000% finished. Then raging blast 2 had some of the best looking graphics and the soundtrack song songs I still play to this day (soldiers sorrow, gallant). Some of the best times of my life were playing dragon ball. I really hope this new game is as good as it looks
when i was little (8-10 year old) I was an EXTREMELY easily scared child so videogames terrified me (if an enemy attacked me in a videogame I felt in danger in real life). But I did love watching my big brother play BT3 so when he wasnt playing I just loved roaming the menus and set up cpu vs cpu fights, imagining the story behind the fight. It was like playing with toys... virtually.
Holy moly, that's a perfect way to describe it! Letting your action figures fight each other in pretend stories, but digital! That's exactly what we did yeah.
1:03:57 I actually GROW UP with ultimate Tenkaichi when I was a kid. I used to watch all the time on RUclips, and I even manage to get a copy of the game. It was really fun, and I had a hell of a good time with it.
I'm two months late, but I was one of those CPU vs CPU lovers in the OG Budokai (still my favorite game in the franchise even though it was my only one I ever owned). I honestly loved rushing home from school everyday, hurrying to turn the system on and having my favorite characters battle each other. It was through the CPU versing mode I realized that every character got unique color changes if they verse the exact same form as the opponent, for example imperfect cell would be the normal green, but the opponent would be a BLUE Imperfect Cell, etc. It added a charm to it that made me smile every time. I also just sincerely loved hearing the voices as they introduce themselves and I would even do mini "tournaments" with the CPU to see which one was stronger. Imperfect Cell and 1st form Frieza were Goliaths back then and won so many battles. Yes, I can understand the "What's the point of em" comment, but I just loved watching the CPU's duke it out while I did Homework or considered who i wanted to play as. I never beat the 100 Warrior challenge, but I know I got super far with Videl (top 10 I think). I miss this game so much.
“Who does CPU vs CPU fights?” I do! XD it started off when I was a teen, where me and my friends would rename characters for stories and made different personalities and different reasons for the battles. Nowadays, I do it as a means of watching some entertainment and reliving the past. It’s not glorious, but that’s my story for doing so.
CPU v CPU was quite literally my childhood version of TV. We didn't have Cable but my cousin gave me a PS2 and DBZ. Every night before bed I would either turn that on, or I'd go into Smash Melee and do the same thing with all the bots and set it to max items and infinite lives/time and just watch the chaos.
As a defender of Ultimate tenkaichi I wanted to point some of my own positives - Hero mode was REALLY fun with how you can customize moves and train with people to learn those moves - the combat while still being very dull does have a few cool manipulations. For instance Vegeta will favor the green single fist option so most of the time choosing the opposite will win against him. Not ever character works like this but you can manipulate the AI like this in some cases Took me a while to get around to this video lol but great work dude!!
I began replaying DBZ Budokai Tenkaichi 2 about 6 months ago. Enjoyed every bit of and also felt so nostalgic, I remember as a kid I had to wait for a very long time between loading screens but I was patient enough to do it cause the gameplay was so good. It feels nice to not have to wait that long anymore with how much better tech is today.
you ALSO forgot to mention that you can find the DragonBalls within the stages' destructible environment set-pieces like "buildings, Giant rock formations, ships, trucks, etc."
50:50, they don't have them officially, but since it's a 3d model that spins slowly you could just screen record it and throw that over to someone on Fiver with a 3D printer that can convert the recording into a 3d model, print it, and ship it over to you :) Heck if you pay for the higher end services they could probably even polish up the models so they're not as blocky
Tenkaichi Tag Team is honestly super fun. Probably one of the best fighting games on the PSP. Also you don’t have to press only circle. Press the other buttons at the same time as well and it will work better
@BabyKobeeee honestly crazy hearing that now. I remember back in 2012-2013ish when I first got the game and started playing it like crazy I remember it was considered the best if not second best. I only heard raging blast 1 was better bc of the what ifs battle which was dope as hell! Ig overall raging blast 2 not having a story kind of hurt it self popularity wise bc ppl like to play something they can follow. In retrospect the galaxy mode is a genius adaptation, but it definitely feels like it a DLC and just kinda re doing battles with a certain mission attached to it wasn't appealing to some ppl. I think it takes a certain die hard dbz fan to understand and truly admire what raging blast 2 was. Everything about it was better in every aspect. It's just the first game was better organized and more appealing to the eye. Raging blast 2s menu was a bet lacking but it did its job.
@@anthonyramirez7586 I thought or Atleast remember people saying Raging Blast 2 was bad when it first came out. Even now it’s a game most people either don’t remember or never mention. I think at that time people were still saying budokai tenkaichi 2 and 3 were the best games in the series.
I loved Tag Team... Grew up with the PS2 games and it blew my mind seeing 3D Dragon Ball on a portable system. Even to this day, I still prefer playing DB games on portables when I can, here's hoping Sparking Zero runs on the Steam Deck
The best thing about the progression of the og trilogy is that by the time i get to the third one, every character has their own unique moves and fighting style. There may be some exceptions but from what I remember every character played and felt different from anyone else. Love that attention to detail from the devs
I remember playing raging blast and immediately dropping it because of how they butchered the tournament mode. That was my favorite mode in the original BT series and I was really disappointed with what they did with it. I never played RB2 though, might give it a shot someday
Awww I know this video was posted like over a week ago and I understand how long this probably took to put together aannnnddd while it's obviously not been an eternity since.. well you know.. Damn.. it just still feels fresh. That mid video break to appreciate the goat got me. R.I.P. Toriyama-Sensei. ❤ And great video brother! ❤
I appreciate it! Yeah, it's actually kind of brutal. I started working on this in January or February after not doing any DBZ projects for an extended period of time. The news came out right smack on the middle of the editing process and I couldn't just release it without some kind of tribute to the GOAT
I deeply miss the sparking/tenkaichi games. I still have my ps2 and games 1-3, but i lost the power cable to the console years ago, im gonna have to get one on Amazon or something to play it again someday.
The Raging Blast 2 intro actually had a much better, amazing Japanese intro sung by Hironobu Kageyama (Cha La dude) but every single damn American release was a re-release where they replaced it with the BT2 theme instead!
I used to use CPU vs CPU in games like smash bros to decide what characters i wanted to learn, the winner being my main for the next week, and in ultimate I’ve used the 8 player battles of the same character to let the game decide what alternate costume i would use. However I cant see why you’d do it in this game
14:52 I do CPU vs CPU when I livestream this game , I have viewers make a team and we all see who can win the most matches , I guess you can call it King Of The Hill , for example I bring out 3 characters and we watch the fights from my teams point of view until I lose then We watch the fights from the winner’s perspective
17:44 "most of the basic mechanics are the same" "I can't really put my finger on it" I feel like we're ignoring the insane amount of value BT2 added to the table, lemme try then the biggest issue in BT1 is that nothing is linkable, right? The Kiai Cannon charge is so long that it's impossible to link it with anything, more than 1 light smash immediately knocks away the opponent, charged ki blasts all knock down and can't be linked, move cancels exist (legit try dash smashing and press X while charging, you'll cancel) but have such a long recovery that they're useless as an offensive tool. Everything feels sluggish because the animations are uninterruptable and take so long to finish Then BT2 came along and completely changed that, it added so many new follow-ups (Sonic Impact, Heavy Crush, Vanishing Attack, Kiai Cannon Smash etc.) and techniques, meaning more linking options, it made all animations much faster, meaning more linking options, and it made move cancels immediately put you back into idle without a recovery, which is infinitely better and actually allows for cancel combos a la Budokai 3, aka more linking options. Even as a casual you'll notice that it's much easier to get 10+ hit combos in BT2 than BT1, these aren't advanced concepts that only pros interact with (except maybe the move cancel thing). BT2 also changed the entire combo system. In BT1, Triangle after a melee attack meant Kiai Cannon/Blaster Wave, while X meant Heavy Finish. Doesn't matter what melee you do it on, you always have this. In BT2, that changed, all Rushing Techniques are now done with Triangle, and which one you'll do depends on how far into the rush string you are. This didn't stay the same and fundamentally changes how you must approach combos. Charged Ki Blasts can now be used to extend combos, there's now a Step-In that has offensive and defensive uses, 2 new counter types (throw and feint) were added, there's now a Rush Special defense called Power Guard, personally I find it hard to say that most of the mechanics are the same. 29:05 "As for gameplay changes, this one went more for just adding things rather than actually changing anything. This is basically Tenkaichi 2 with a bunch of new stuff on top" This is provably false and I absolutely hate it when people say this, BT3 removed move cancels entirely, removed the Power Guard entirely, removed the throw and feint counter types from BT2, completely changed the movement system, removed the illusion slash, removed left/right guard and removed the unique input for Rolling Hammer These are all things present in BT2, but not present in BT3, implying BT3 is just Tenkaichi 2 with more stuff is just wrong, no wonder BT2 doesn't have a community when people think that
People think BT3 is 2 with more stuff because it's more flashy and there's more characters. Moreover lots of people mess up the two games in their head and think BT2 exclusive things are in 3 because they think BT3 is the only good game of the trilogy. I've genuinely and unironically seen people say thing like "BT3 had a whole exploration story mode like Budokai 3 with every fight", "BT3 even had Yajirobe playable" or "In BT3, there is a what-if in which Raditz become a nice guy". People just don't want to understand that BT3 was a downgrade gameplay-wise compared to BT2 because they don't want to feel dumb spending so much time during childhood on 3 compared to 2 because of the roster, so they idealize BT3 and neglect 2 (and 1). Then, it's makes people think BT3 was just a BT2 with things on top whereas it was in fact a less technical and more flzshy BT2. They think this because "BT3 is so perfect it can't have removed things." Even though it did.
I was the person that did COM vs COM. Sometimes it's just fun to watch your own "what if" or remake scenes from the show without replaying the story directly.
back in the day me and my friends where heAVY INTO THE SERIES AND WE used to run cpu vs cpu on max difficulty to see certain match ups and see how cpu uses certain chars to get a idea of how to use a character you havent played with yet. me an my couzin would do cpu vs cpu match and watch while we are eating and study the cpu
Mannnn as a recent fan of DB (binged the series last year from the og DB to super, except for gt, kai and anything after super) now i wish I actually got to play some of these games... Oh, how one can only dream.
@@PureCringe next gen is the Xbox Series S and X and the PS5, I will say this the Series S is quite cheap and is worth it imo it usually goes on sale for like 240/250 although you only get 512GB compared to the Series X which has 1TB off the bat but there is a black recolored Series S for 350 which has 1TB
26:50 Slight correction. Kenji only did music for Tenkaichi 1, and even then only because that game's soundtrack was mostly recycled from the Budokai Series. BT2 and 3 had a swath of new composers. Kenji had nothing to do with them.
I miss the original Raging Blast 2 music. I know it was changed because of plagiarism, but that's what i remember. I downloaded a PS3 emulator on my PC and the new BGM csught me off guard. RB2 is still my favorite DB Arena Foghter.
I used the CPU vs CPU battle a lot actually! Sometimes you just want to do something else while watching a fight go down or you and your friends want to pick fighters and place bets it’s fun!
Sometimes I match the com type items with either their respective character or a character I believe would fight as described in the actual show & pit them to see which character gets the most overall wins.
I used to play CPU vs CPU. It was my way of creating my own little what if stories where it was the actual characters not just me controlling them. Either that or once and for all find out who is stronger.
Maybe an unpopular opinion byt Ragung blast 2 is underrated and the roster is so fun. I also love the galaxy mode. After so many games the story mode of DBZ became dull so galaxy mode was appreacited and differnt. I think thats why xenoverse story was so fun. It was a different story.
14:50 i may not have done it in the budokai games, but im 100% the person who watched all CPU smash melee tournaments. in fairness, you can also crank up the insanity with items, but thats sorta the thing. its was so much fun to watch, and my cousins and I would wind down after several matches by kicking back to watch the CPUs go at it
As for CPU vs CPU fights I think a good example of how fun they can be is watching Alpharad's Smash Bros CPU Tournaments. Dude constructed an entire story with them. As for my personal experience with Budokai Tenkaichi my introduction to it was my cousin's copy of 2 on his PS2, then a few years later getting 3 for the Wii. My brother and I has previously owned Budokai 2 on the GameCube and rented Budokai 1. We played the hell out of BT3 and had a blast, trading between battles to experience the story. And I distinctly remember my brother being extremely good with Namek Saga SSJ Goku and me maining Arale. A few years later we got Raging Blast 2 for the XBox 360 and had a ton of fun with the "Story" mode and trading off to play individual character modes.
Tenkaichi Tag Team is my favourite. You have 2vs2, great gameplay, nice graphics, no BS characters (seriously, Tenkaichi 3 has way too many fighters), good looking UI and you can play it on PS Vita
Me and my friend used to love watching cpu battles in between our matches. Since we have different tastes, we'd take bets and root for whatever our favorite characters/sides were. Especially since I'm a Goku main and he loved to play Vegeta and Frieza.
I remember having a lot of fun with the Galaxy mode in RB2. It made me use a lot of characters i otherwise wouldn’t and actually made some underrated characters like Tenshinhan into one of my mains.
Absolutely loved this video man, I played all these games religiously growing up and then when sparking zero came out I went and played all 3 BT stuff again 100% long live dragon ball , Rip to the sensei legend who made my childhood 🧡🖤 akira toriyama.. 🙏🏼
Fun fact about raging blast 2. There are re-issued games with a different soundtrack. It’s from Budokai Tenkaichi 2. But raging blast 2 DID have its own soundtrack.
RB2 did not have the BT2 music originally, that's basically a placeholder because of the plagiarism stuff, the original RB2 cinematic song was amazing. Also, the story dialogue was even in online battles, It's a surprisingly enjoyable feature, you can even see their mouths move in Super cutscenes.
14:50 I havent done Cpu vs Cpu in a Dragonball Game ever, but I sure have done CPU only tournaments for Smash Bros and WWE2k. (I think it was actually an Amiibo CPU tournament, so a little different)
You can change the direction of a charged attack in tenkaichi 2 by holding the left stick while charging. And you can ( not for all) change the direction by rush attacks ( like a sprint )
CPU vs CPU battles were so peak as pre teens. Sometimes we get tired of actually fighting, so its a cool What If to see unrelated characters fight. I think you can give them Z Items too? So you can make custom Boss Battles by buffing a certain CPU to see how far they can get before defeat.
14:50 typically I use CPU vs CPU matches too learn how too play characters when making them play on the hardest difficulty but also sometimes I’ll go grab something too eat but I don’t wanna stop playing so I’ll watch these while I’m eating
It's me, I am the one who was doing CPU vs CPU. It was fun to take a break from playing sometimes and just make up scenarios and see who'd win or test out different versions of customized characters against one another to see which might be better.
26:42 - Kenji Yamamoto didn't compose for Tenkaichi 2 & 3, or Raging Blast 1. He did however compose for the original Budokai trilogy, Tenkaichi 1 and Raging Blast 2
That funny animation from BT was hilarious to me and my brothers as kids, i thought we were the only ones who made fun of that 😂 glad to know we weren’t alone
What's the best Tenkaichi game? Do you think Sparking! Zero will unseat it?
Tenkaichi 3, the definitive dragon ball experience. Playing with friends picking from so many characters from the series and recreating fights, fun times! Now with more crisp graphics, a larger roster and more smooth controls (not using a Wii remote) Sparking Zero can be the best
Tenkaichi 3 is the best for me
3 equals the ultimate beast prior to the Sparking Zero
Tenkaichi 3
Hopefully
When I was a kid, I used CPU vs CPU to roleplay like my own tournaments, because I wanted them to be as “fair” and balanced as possible. Cuz if I played vs the CPU, I’d always win. So I wanted to be like “who would win between Gogeta vs Vegito” in the most “realistic” way possible. So it was basically my own little DBZ what if simulator.
I still fire up CPU only matches in modern games from time to time to scratch that old itch when I’m bored. Like I wanna watch some fighting game matches but the comp players only ever pick the top tiers, so maybe I wanna see something different for once.
So what you're saying is that the Hercule v Hercule matchup is an actual use case here 😂
Same you are not crazy not so much now that im grown but yeah
BROOOOO! My brother and I started playing Tenkaichi 3 again and have been talking about doing another CPU vs CPU tournament for old time's sake. We used to create a massive tournament where each "team" drafted a character and then it went on to the next pick, almost like the NFL draft. And then we'd have the teams fight against each other and see who wins the tournament. So you'd end up with like... Hirudegarn, Goku, Cooler, and Kid Trunks vs Super 17, Vegito, Piccolo, and Great Ape Bardock as the final round or something like that. 😂We wrote them out on a Cincinnati Bengals paper pad cube in tony writing and crossed out the losers... oh yeah this is the best DBZ game imo. So fun being mindless losers back in the day. Lets do it again every now and then, yeah? 🤣
Broo who won between Vegito and Gogeta? 😄😄
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you "play" cpu vs cpu to place bets on the fights, its a ton of fun - we had a whole event for a cpu wwe tournament, 10/10
That's actually kind of a fun use case, huh?
Litteraly, love watching Bob lennon's (French content creator/streamer) Torneo de Poder.
It's a Tournament of Power but on a crazy modded BT3. It's really really funny 😂
The precursor for SaltyBets.
@@NiosaiMy Friends and I use it to make a March Madness bracket. We assign characters to teams based on their seed number.
Yes i did this
Regarding the COM vs COM fights and who they are for: me and my little brother used to put on COM vs COM battles in the Tenkaichi games and sit back and eat snacks and watch them like they were a TV show or something. We even made our own tournaments and alternate histories where he would pick a fighter and I would make a bracket of fighters for his COM to fight and if he won all I'd own him some candy or we would start with the Raditz saga and let the coms battle and create a random alternate history like this. We of course finished the games as well but yeah, better, simpler and more precious times 😊
That’s damn sweet mate
Yea used to do that with my elder brother too in bt3 lol
The realest comment ever
Something to add on in regards to BT3's story mode, there are a lot of hidden What If senarios beyond the What-If Saga if you win or lose specific fights in specific ways. Many people have probably encountered as least one of these but there are a shocking amount of them. You can have Roshi beat Broly if Goku falls and again in GT where Pan takes over when SS4 Goku loses to Baby. You can have Goku beat Majin Vegeta which will cause him to go and beat Dabura. If Majin Vegeta beats Buu, he will go on to fight Babidi. Probably the most bizzare, if you beat King Piccolo without using all the button prompts, Tamborine suddenly comes back to life and then Chichi shows up to kill him.
Or nail appears in the Battle agains the ginyu force :)
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I'm a CPU vs. CPU main, no, I'm not joking.
My friends and I are all at extremely different skill levels in various fighting games, and we all get varying levels of enjoyment out of those types of games, resulting in us avoiding them... Eventually, we realized that pitting CPUs against each other was super entertaining to watch and joke about... to the extent where we started constructing lore and ongoing rivalries and artificial tournaments across completely different games (we now mainly use a heavily modded version of smash ultimate.) To the extent that now one of my friends is writing a book about it, it's pretty fun... but it's also more akin to watching a long-running series at this point rather than actually playing the game.
Actually, Kenji Yamamoto was NOT responsible for Budokai Tenkaichi 2 and 3. In fact, they grabbed music from those games to replace plagiarized music in the Budokai HD collection and Raging Blast. One name that comes to mind when thinking of these game's composers is Takanori Arima who I'm pretty sure is still working on DB games to this day.
Oh wow, you're right! I think I got my wires crossed with Raging Blast 2, which I distinctly remember getting an update to replace it's music after launch.
@@NiosaiYamamoto also offers the plagiarized music for Dragon Ball Z Kai AKA Dragon Ball Kai during the time of the Vegeta up to the middle of Cell Saga’s climax (Kai Episodes 1 up to 95) while airing in Japan
Was just about to type this.
Yeah, Takanori Arima primarily worked on Tenkaichi 2, while Toshiyuki Kishi worked on Tenkaichi 3, Tag Team and Raging Blast 1. Both composers have been on multiple Dragon Ball games ever since, Including FighterZ
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The CPU vs. CPU comment tickled my funny bone like you have no idea. What led me to this video was Twitch channel point gambling on CPU vs. CPU fights for Tenkaichi 3. It was a grand old time.
The best moment had to be when we had a Human Z-Fighters vs. Broly and a Saibaman. Yamcha was doing WORK on Broly. Broly tags in Saibaman. Saibaman starts schooling Yamcha and Yamcha just TAGS OUT. HE KNEW WHAT WAS COMING. It was great.
Has anyone else noticed that both Budokai 3 and Budokai Tenkaichi 3's opening feature Gogeta fighting Broly years before ot would become canon? Talk about prophetic.
I never made that connection, that's pretty neat!
I’m almost certain those cinematics were the seeds that grew into the concept behind DBS: Broly and the overwhelmingly positive fan response. Ever since the days of Budokai Tenkaichi being the peak of DBZ’s zeitgeist in North America (since the show’s run had ended and the last couple of movies were slowly making their way here) people have been salivating over seeing Gogeta vs Broly, the GOATs of DBZ heavy hitters, fighting in an animated form.
It’s not canon gogeta never fought broly.
@@Marcayling ¿acaso has vivido debajo de una piedra?, ambos personajes se enfrentaron en la película de broly.
@@Marcaylingthey did tho…
On the CPU vs CPU element, there was actually an entire community built around CPU battles called the Dragon Ball Z League for several years. It had the BT3 roster split up into different themed teams and people on those teams got to pick which characters would be in the active roster, the order, and what customization options they had (with point limits) each week for a sports league style season.
It was a great time and ran for years as a live and VOD supported community that even had its own forums and fantasy league system. Great times.
I keep seeing this pointed out and it actually sounds like a lot of fun lmao
DBZ league still exists actually and they still do cpu vs cpu tenkaichi 3
Raging Blast 1 Tournament mode has a single player vs CPU. just press triangle, it tells you at the bottom and it fills the tournament with random characters.
From what I recall, Raging Blast 2 just always did in-fight dialogue no matter what mode you were in. As long as the characters in the fight you chose were compatible, they would talk mid-fight. Say you go and play SSJ2 Goku and Majin Vegeta, they'll have special starting dialogue and talk throughout the fight. Didn't need to be in Galaxy Mode, could be in VS.
For the scripted fights in dragon history mode if you just don't follow the script and win with your own skills or specific characters you get character specific dialogues that you don't see anywhere else after winning with them which is honestly a plus imo.
33:12 To this day I do not understand how any one can look at 3's streamlined, events-mid-battle story and think, "Nah I liked it better in 2 when every Saga was padded out to 30 fights and made me sit through six loading screens per battle."
Because there's more fights
@@duarteribeiro1520 If you really need to do all the same fights again, just play in versus mode. It's no fun having to sit through multiple agonizing load screens so they can pad out one-off confrontations into way too many fights. (Broly Second Coming did NOT need to be 6 goddamn fights long.)
@@LAZY-RUBY If you could just play versus instead of the story there wouldn't be a point to the story mode
@@duarteribeiro1520 I didn't say I don't want a story mode, I just don't want it to be a slog to get through. 3 had the right idea with having all the major battles be full set-pieces that have the events playout within the fight. No extended loading, more interestingly animated cutscenes, they even had alternate scenes for winning fights you canonically aren't supposed to win!
Would you be surprised that lots of kids didn't actually watch the DBZ anime and their first intro was playing the story in a DBZ video game? Playing through all of that was perfect as a young kid when you want more story mode - the magic isn't broken by "erm you can just go do them in Versus mode to recreate them" because a fair few kids can't figure that out or think it's lame.
I played BT2 a lot as a kid, then when we actually had reliable WiFi as a teen I watched the anime after. The extensive story mode fights were great. Maybe it's different now that I'm grown.
Fun watch! I preferred the Budokai games, but the Tenkaichi/Sparking games grew on me over time. I'm looking forward to Sparking Zero! Rest in peace, Toriyama.
lol it’s literally the otherway around for me. I didn’t see what people saw in Budokai but I’m beginning to like it more
Same, I later on got into the Budokai tenkaichi series and ever sense then I became a fan.
In tenkaichi 2, and 1 to a lesser degree, my brother and I loved that we didn't have to stay locked on, we made our own adventures in the little maps, it is one of my favorite memories of my childhood
Yeah i'm ngl, I always hated BT1. Not being able to transform in-game always really got under my skin, and it instantly made me drop it once finding that out as a kid
never played BT1, but i can see why this would suck ALOT considering transforming mid fight is half the battle.
I remember the day I've played BT1 for the first time. It was at my birthday party, and as far as I remember, the disc actually belong to one of my friends. I think none of us had played the original Budokai prior to that, but we sure as hell played A LOT of Final Bout on PS1 couple years earlier. Me and friends did no other thing at the party but play BT, and holy shit everyone loved. Obviously it became clear after BT2 came out that BT1 was pretty much a prototype, but in 2004? Playing a fighting game like that was really novel and exciting, no one complained. The peak came at BT3, where I inadvertently bought the japanese version (Sparking Meteor) and was BLOWN AWAY to know that it had the original soundtrack of the anime (the Kikuchi score). Not only it made everything 10 times more incredible to play, but the added characters were a dream come true to me. My favorite character to play as in Final Bout was always Kid Goku (GT) Super Saiyan, and they finally added him in BT3. Such cool memories. I really hope Sparking Zero lives up to the hype.
I loved it despite that and I was only 11 but I did wish it wasn't limited. Then when Tenkaichi 2 came out things got really popping
@@JoaoVictor-hn8htwhat do you think of sparking zero so far?
@@Chiefland7 IDK, the gameplay still looks too stiff and more like Xenoverse/Kakarot than BT. Also, the laughable excuse for local MP is... Well, laughable..
14:52 well i actually do love CPU VS CPU mod in old games. i do like watching them, i emulate games on my phone and this mod does help past the time during break at work when i am eating :)
I think some people from 4chan used to run a tournament for CPU x CPU matches they would stream on twitch.
Way back in the day, they used to do stuff like that on the GameFAQs forums. I would lurk every so often and it was a pretty good time.
@@n.henzler50I used to be heavy in those CPU vs CPU Custom tournaments on GameFaqs. Those were good times and good fun
I was one of them
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Right on one time on the bt3 message board I held a midget tournament which was exactly what it sounded like: all the super short fighters competing for strongest midget
CPU VS CPU fights were pretty fun cause sometimes I would witness something like Kid Gohan defeating SSJ Goku which was a real laugh😂😂
On CPU v CPU, there's a fantasy sport league thing for BT3 called DBZ League. It's pretty amusing. Basically custom built characters under specific themed teams duking it out.
2 was definitely my most played one, when I was a kid that’s the only one I had and my god I probably 100% the game 2-3 times, I remember doing all the “what if” scenarios, getting every wish from shenron, unlocking every character and stage…must’ve spent hundreds of hours on this when I was a kid
Edit: I take that back, I actually remember begging my mom to take me to GameStop to get 3 and played the shit out of that one too, it’s probably been like 15 years so kinda got them mixed together in my head
Really surprised an HD collection was not released before Sparking Zero. Would have been a slam dunk to keep everyone busy until October
Oh man, I’ve been waiting for this one! Today was a bad day, but this made up for it! Thanks, Niosai!
I appreciate that, and I hope your day gets better! :)
Budokai Tenkaichi was probably the best Dragon Ball Z game I’ve ever played, i recently sold it at a retro game store and they gave me more money for that than every other game/ accessories I sold to them and ps1
I used to play the first Budokia Tenkaichi game with my brother on the PS2 when we were younger. Now that I'm older and living on my own for a few years, seeing dragon ball sparking was and instant nostalgia hit. Though it's not the exact same game it's so much fun to go back and relive those old memories. Especially since I don't really see my brothers that much anymore.
Tenkaichi 3 is the reason why I got into dragon ball z after getting it for Christmas and not even wanting to play it at first bc I thought it would be lame. Until one day I got bored and was hooked ever since. Then I remember I ended up wanting tenkaichi tag team for the longest. I would beg my parents everyday to take me and even the days that I went, it ended up being a lot farther away from my house. As soon as I started playing it, I never stopped until I basically 1000% finished. Then raging blast 2 had some of the best looking graphics and the soundtrack song songs I still play to this day (soldiers sorrow, gallant). Some of the best times of my life were playing dragon ball. I really hope this new game is as good as it looks
when i was little (8-10 year old) I was an EXTREMELY easily scared child so videogames terrified me (if an enemy attacked me in a videogame I felt in danger in real life). But I did love watching my big brother play BT3 so when he wasnt playing I just loved roaming the menus and set up cpu vs cpu fights, imagining the story behind the fight. It was like playing with toys... virtually.
Holy moly, that's a perfect way to describe it! Letting your action figures fight each other in pretend stories, but digital! That's exactly what we did yeah.
My friends and I would do CPU vs CPU battles and do fake bets using monopoly money!
1:03:57 I actually GROW UP with ultimate Tenkaichi when I was a kid. I used to watch all the time on RUclips, and I even manage to get a copy of the game. It was really fun, and I had a hell of a good time with it.
sorry bro
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I@@davidsdomainforgamers7347it was the worst Tenkaichi sadly. It was just a port from the vr dbz game.
Unfortunate 😔
I was just binging your Budokai and Tenkaichi videos and then I woke up and got notified about this. Well, here we go!
I promise this one's better than the last Tenkaichi video! I appreciate it haha 😎
I'm two months late, but I was one of those CPU vs CPU lovers in the OG Budokai (still my favorite game in the franchise even though it was my only one I ever owned). I honestly loved rushing home from school everyday, hurrying to turn the system on and having my favorite characters battle each other.
It was through the CPU versing mode I realized that every character got unique color changes if they verse the exact same form as the opponent, for example imperfect cell would be the normal green, but the opponent would be a BLUE Imperfect Cell, etc. It added a charm to it that made me smile every time.
I also just sincerely loved hearing the voices as they introduce themselves and I would even do mini "tournaments" with the CPU to see which one was stronger. Imperfect Cell and 1st form Frieza were Goliaths back then and won so many battles.
Yes, I can understand the "What's the point of em" comment, but I just loved watching the CPU's duke it out while I did Homework or considered who i wanted to play as. I never beat the 100 Warrior challenge, but I know I got super far with Videl (top 10 I think). I miss this game so much.
Back when games were FUN and MOSTLY 100% READY TO PLAY on launch.
I came here just to see if you included Tag Team (My childhood favorite PSP game). Glad to see you did.
Sparking Zero being BT4 has brought back my childhood. Its been a long time but these hands are ready to train once again.
“Who does CPU vs CPU fights?” I do! XD it started off when I was a teen, where me and my friends would rename characters for stories and made different personalities and different reasons for the battles. Nowadays, I do it as a means of watching some entertainment and reliving the past. It’s not glorious, but that’s my story for doing so.
CPU v CPU was quite literally my childhood version of TV. We didn't have Cable but my cousin gave me a PS2 and DBZ. Every night before bed I would either turn that on, or I'd go into Smash Melee and do the same thing with all the bots and set it to max items and infinite lives/time and just watch the chaos.
thank you akira, you will remembered for the rest of my life
As a defender of Ultimate tenkaichi I wanted to point some of my own positives
- Hero mode was REALLY fun with how you can customize moves and train with people to learn those moves
- the combat while still being very dull does have a few cool manipulations. For instance Vegeta will favor the green single fist option so most of the time choosing the opposite will win against him. Not ever character works like this but you can manipulate the AI like this in some cases
Took me a while to get around to this video lol but great work dude!!
15:15 i used to watch videos as a kid i think from kaggy films and thundershot of cpu battles so they got some use alright
We used to make bets on CPU v CPU fights.
Brilliant video! So excited to fire up Tenkaichi 3 again after work
PS2 or Wii 👀
@@NiosaiWii is the best version🤞
I began replaying DBZ Budokai Tenkaichi 2 about 6 months ago. Enjoyed every bit of and also felt so nostalgic, I remember as a kid I had to wait for a very long time between loading screens but I was patient enough to do it cause the gameplay was so good. It feels nice to not have to wait that long anymore with how much better tech is today.
OH YEAH! Niosai back at it again! I need to see what the Raging Blast hype was about!
you ALSO forgot to mention that you can find the DragonBalls within the stages' destructible environment set-pieces like "buildings, Giant rock formations, ships, trucks, etc."
CPU vs CPU is fun to watch. Like a sort of neutral "who would win" without player interference
Yeah I've really warmed up to it thanks to all the comments with stories like this!
50:50, they don't have them officially, but since it's a 3d model that spins slowly you could just screen record it and throw that over to someone on Fiver with a 3D printer that can convert the recording into a 3d model, print it, and ship it over to you :) Heck if you pay for the higher end services they could probably even polish up the models so they're not as blocky
Tenkaichi Tag Team is honestly super fun. Probably one of the best fighting games on the PSP. Also you don’t have to press only circle. Press the other buttons at the same time as well and it will work better
Raging Blast 2 not having a story mode is fine.
I mean it’s not like we haven’t seen it before.
Sure, but I wanted more What-Ifs 😭
Raging Blast 2 is the most underrated game in the series
cried about it!😂
@BabyKobeeee honestly crazy hearing that now. I remember back in 2012-2013ish when I first got the game and started playing it like crazy I remember it was considered the best if not second best. I only heard raging blast 1 was better bc of the what ifs battle which was dope as hell! Ig overall raging blast 2 not having a story kind of hurt it self popularity wise bc ppl like to play something they can follow. In retrospect the galaxy mode is a genius adaptation, but it definitely feels like it a DLC and just kinda re doing battles with a certain mission attached to it wasn't appealing to some ppl. I think it takes a certain die hard dbz fan to understand and truly admire what raging blast 2 was. Everything about it was better in every aspect. It's just the first game was better organized and more appealing to the eye. Raging blast 2s menu was a bet lacking but it did its job.
@@anthonyramirez7586 I thought or Atleast remember people saying Raging Blast 2 was bad when it first came out. Even now it’s a game most people either don’t remember or never mention. I think at that time people were still saying budokai tenkaichi 2 and 3 were the best games in the series.
lets goooooooooo! been waiting for this! Get some sleep now!
Me and my friend loved launching CPU vs CPU and made bets who's gonna win.
I used to use the CPU v CPU modes while doing chores so I had something to watch that I didn’t have to pay much attention to
I loved Tag Team... Grew up with the PS2 games and it blew my mind seeing 3D Dragon Ball on a portable system. Even to this day, I still prefer playing DB games on portables when I can, here's hoping Sparking Zero runs on the Steam Deck
The best thing about the progression of the og trilogy is that by the time i get to the third one, every character has their own unique moves and fighting style. There may be some exceptions but from what I remember every character played and felt different from anyone else. Love that attention to detail from the devs
I remember playing raging blast and immediately dropping it because of how they butchered the tournament mode. That was my favorite mode in the original BT series and I was really disappointed with what they did with it.
I never played RB2 though, might give it a shot someday
Awww I know this video was posted like over a week ago and I understand how long this probably took to put together aannnnddd while it's obviously not been an eternity since.. well you know.. Damn.. it just still feels fresh. That mid video break to appreciate the goat got me. R.I.P. Toriyama-Sensei. ❤ And great video brother! ❤
I appreciate it! Yeah, it's actually kind of brutal. I started working on this in January or February after not doing any DBZ projects for an extended period of time. The news came out right smack on the middle of the editing process and I couldn't just release it without some kind of tribute to the GOAT
I deeply miss the sparking/tenkaichi games. I still have my ps2 and games 1-3, but i lost the power cable to the console years ago, im gonna have to get one on Amazon or something to play it again someday.
Don't know if anyone said it yet but you can battle the AI in Tournaments by pressing Y/Triangle after selecting your character in Raging Blast 1.
BABE WAKE UP, NIOSAI MADE A BUDOKAI TENKAICHI VIDEO!!!!
4:43 bro got backshots
Dude I love your content! Especially this and the Soul Calibur video. Keep up the good work bud
I appreciate that so much!
The Raging Blast 2 intro actually had a much better, amazing Japanese intro sung by Hironobu Kageyama (Cha La dude) but every single damn American release was a re-release where they replaced it with the BT2 theme instead!
I used to use CPU vs CPU in games like smash bros to decide what characters i wanted to learn, the winner being my main for the next week, and in ultimate I’ve used the 8 player battles of the same character to let the game decide what alternate costume i would use.
However I cant see why you’d do it in this game
14:52 I do CPU vs CPU when I livestream this game , I have viewers make a team and we all see who can win the most matches , I guess you can call it King Of The Hill , for example I bring out 3 characters and we watch the fights from my teams point of view until I lose then We watch the fights from the winner’s perspective
17:44 "most of the basic mechanics are the same" "I can't really put my finger on it"
I feel like we're ignoring the insane amount of value BT2 added to the table, lemme try then
the biggest issue in BT1 is that nothing is linkable, right? The Kiai Cannon charge is so long that it's impossible to link it with anything, more than 1 light smash immediately knocks away the opponent, charged ki blasts all knock down and can't be linked, move cancels exist (legit try dash smashing and press X while charging, you'll cancel) but have such a long recovery that they're useless as an offensive tool. Everything feels sluggish because the animations are uninterruptable and take so long to finish
Then BT2 came along and completely changed that, it added so many new follow-ups (Sonic Impact, Heavy Crush, Vanishing Attack, Kiai Cannon Smash etc.) and techniques, meaning more linking options, it made all animations much faster, meaning more linking options, and it made move cancels immediately put you back into idle without a recovery, which is infinitely better and actually allows for cancel combos a la Budokai 3, aka more linking options. Even as a casual you'll notice that it's much easier to get 10+ hit combos in BT2 than BT1, these aren't advanced concepts that only pros interact with (except maybe the move cancel thing).
BT2 also changed the entire combo system. In BT1, Triangle after a melee attack meant Kiai Cannon/Blaster Wave, while X meant Heavy Finish. Doesn't matter what melee you do it on, you always have this. In BT2, that changed, all Rushing Techniques are now done with Triangle, and which one you'll do depends on how far into the rush string you are. This didn't stay the same and fundamentally changes how you must approach combos. Charged Ki Blasts can now be used to extend combos, there's now a Step-In that has offensive and defensive uses, 2 new counter types (throw and feint) were added, there's now a Rush Special defense called Power Guard, personally I find it hard to say that most of the mechanics are the same.
29:05 "As for gameplay changes, this one went more for just adding things rather than actually changing anything. This is basically Tenkaichi 2 with a bunch of new stuff on top"
This is provably false and I absolutely hate it when people say this, BT3 removed move cancels entirely, removed the Power Guard entirely, removed the throw and feint counter types from BT2, completely changed the movement system, removed the illusion slash, removed left/right guard and removed the unique input for Rolling Hammer
These are all things present in BT2, but not present in BT3, implying BT3 is just Tenkaichi 2 with more stuff is just wrong, no wonder BT2 doesn't have a community when people think that
People think BT3 is 2 with more stuff because it's more flashy and there's more characters. Moreover lots of people mess up the two games in their head and think BT2 exclusive things are in 3 because they think BT3 is the only good game of the trilogy.
I've genuinely and unironically seen people say thing like "BT3 had a whole exploration story mode like Budokai 3 with every fight", "BT3 even had Yajirobe playable" or "In BT3, there is a what-if in which Raditz become a nice guy".
People just don't want to understand that BT3 was a downgrade gameplay-wise compared to BT2 because they don't want to feel dumb spending so much time during childhood on 3 compared to 2 because of the roster, so they idealize BT3 and neglect 2 (and 1).
Then, it's makes people think BT3 was just a BT2 with things on top whereas it was in fact a less technical and more flzshy BT2. They think this because "BT3 is so perfect it can't have removed things." Even though it did.
I actually like to watch the CPU fight the CPU, especially on the hardest difficulty, and with team battles too!
I was the person that did COM vs COM.
Sometimes it's just fun to watch your own "what if" or remake scenes from the show without replaying the story directly.
That's a good point!
C'mon now, pitting Yamcha against anyone and seeing if he'll win in a CPU vs CPU is fun
Yamcha vs a lil green guy, who would win?
back in the day me and my friends where heAVY INTO THE SERIES AND WE used to run cpu vs cpu on max difficulty to see certain match ups and see how cpu uses certain chars to get a idea of how to use a character you havent played with yet. me an my couzin would do cpu vs cpu match and watch while we are eating and study the cpu
Mannnn as a recent fan of DB (binged the series last year from the og DB to super, except for gt, kai and anything after super) now i wish I actually got to play some of these games...
Oh, how one can only dream.
Hey you still can! Though, if Sparking Zero is good, that could also be your first entry!
@@Niosai That depends on if it's on a console I even have rn. What consoles will it be on?
@@PureCringe Next gen only and on PC
@@neomachine855 Don't quite know what next gen is but pc I do have. Looking forward to seeing if I can ever cough up the money for this game!
@@PureCringe next gen is the Xbox Series S and X and the PS5, I will say this the Series S is quite cheap and is worth it imo it usually goes on sale for like 240/250 although you only get 512GB compared to the Series X which has 1TB off the bat but there is a black recolored Series S for 350 which has 1TB
26:50 Slight correction. Kenji only did music for Tenkaichi 1, and even then only because that game's soundtrack was mostly recycled from the Budokai Series. BT2 and 3 had a swath of new composers. Kenji had nothing to do with them.
I miss the original Raging Blast 2 music. I know it was changed because of plagiarism, but that's what i remember. I downloaded a PS3 emulator on my PC and the new BGM csught me off guard. RB2 is still my favorite DB Arena Foghter.
I love CPU vs CPU in fighting games. I use it a lot when I'm tired and don't feel like playing, but still want to watch a match.
I used the CPU vs CPU battle a lot actually! Sometimes you just want to do something else while watching a fight go down or you and your friends want to pick fighters and place bets it’s fun!
Sometimes I match the com type items with either their respective character or a character I believe would fight as described in the actual show & pit them to see which character gets the most overall wins.
I used to play CPU vs CPU. It was my way of creating my own little what if stories where it was the actual characters not just me controlling them. Either that or once and for all find out who is stronger.
Maybe an unpopular opinion byt Ragung blast 2 is underrated and the roster is so fun. I also love the galaxy mode. After so many games the story mode of DBZ became dull so galaxy mode was appreacited and differnt. I think thats why xenoverse story was so fun. It was a different story.
RB2 is great mechanically! I just wish it had more story stuff 😭
Bro fix your damn comment it has an error in it it’s like these people don’t check what they’re typing!
@@jordandillow2417 No thank you. Have a great day.
14:50 i may not have done it in the budokai games, but im 100% the person who watched all CPU smash melee tournaments. in fairness, you can also crank up the insanity with items, but thats sorta the thing. its was so much fun to watch, and my cousins and I would wind down after several matches by kicking back to watch the CPUs go at it
As for CPU vs CPU fights I think a good example of how fun they can be is watching Alpharad's Smash Bros CPU Tournaments. Dude constructed an entire story with them.
As for my personal experience with Budokai Tenkaichi my introduction to it was my cousin's copy of 2 on his PS2, then a few years later getting 3 for the Wii. My brother and I has previously owned Budokai 2 on the GameCube and rented Budokai 1. We played the hell out of BT3 and had a blast, trading between battles to experience the story. And I distinctly remember my brother being extremely good with Namek Saga SSJ Goku and me maining Arale. A few years later we got Raging Blast 2 for the XBox 360 and had a ton of fun with the "Story" mode and trading off to play individual character modes.
Tenkaichi Tag Team is my favourite. You have 2vs2, great gameplay, nice graphics, no BS characters (seriously, Tenkaichi 3 has way too many fighters), good looking UI and you can play it on PS Vita
Me and my friend used to love watching cpu battles in between our matches. Since we have different tastes, we'd take bets and root for whatever our favorite characters/sides were.
Especially since I'm a Goku main and he loved to play Vegeta and Frieza.
I remember having a lot of fun with the Galaxy mode in RB2. It made me use a lot of characters i otherwise wouldn’t and actually made some underrated characters like Tenshinhan into one of my mains.
"Who uses CPU vs CPU battles?!"
SaltyBets: "Am I a joke to you?"
Absolutely loved this video man, I played all these games religiously growing up and then when sparking zero came out I went and played all 3 BT stuff again 100% long live dragon ball , Rip to the sensei legend who made my childhood 🧡🖤 akira toriyama.. 🙏🏼
Fun fact about raging blast 2. There are re-issued games with a different soundtrack. It’s from Budokai Tenkaichi 2. But raging blast 2 DID have its own soundtrack.
The Goku/Vegeta head nod is infamous.
RB2 did not have the BT2 music originally, that's basically a placeholder because of the plagiarism stuff, the original RB2 cinematic song was amazing.
Also, the story dialogue was even in online battles, It's a surprisingly enjoyable feature, you can even see their mouths move in Super cutscenes.
14:50 I havent done Cpu vs Cpu in a Dragonball Game ever, but I sure have done CPU only tournaments for Smash Bros and WWE2k. (I think it was actually an Amiibo CPU tournament, so a little different)
Hey man, you output great stuff, thanks so much!
Thank you :)
You can change the direction of a charged attack in tenkaichi 2 by holding the left stick while charging. And you can ( not for all) change the direction by rush attacks ( like a sprint )
CPU vs CPU battles were so peak as pre teens. Sometimes we get tired of actually fighting, so its a cool What If to see unrelated characters fight. I think you can give them Z Items too? So you can make custom Boss Battles by buffing a certain CPU to see how far they can get before defeat.
15:21 idk at least in the later games, it's pretty fun to just turn up the difficulty and watch a simulation and see the fight happen
Cpu battles are for when you want to see full skill and use of mechanics besides your own gameplay, it's fun really.
14:50 typically I use CPU vs CPU matches too learn how too play characters when making them play on the hardest difficulty but also sometimes I’ll go grab something too eat but I don’t wanna stop playing so I’ll watch these while I’m eating
It's me, I am the one who was doing CPU vs CPU. It was fun to take a break from playing sometimes and just make up scenarios and see who'd win or test out different versions of customized characters against one another to see which might be better.
I actually remember BT2 be better than the third. Like the 3rd had more characters but the 2nd was just more hardcore
Man, these games kicked ass
13:15 damn trunks that was cool
26:42 - Kenji Yamamoto didn't compose for Tenkaichi 2 & 3, or Raging Blast 1.
He did however compose for the original Budokai trilogy, Tenkaichi 1 and Raging Blast 2
Yeah, I definitely mixed that up 😅
That funny animation from BT was hilarious to me and my brothers as kids, i thought we were the only ones who made fun of that 😂 glad to know we weren’t alone
I personally loved it lol. It's one of my favourite openings of all time😂