Love the videos man. I got back into WoW Season 3 of Dragonflight and have made Keystone master in both seasons thanks to you. Clear, concise and well spoken. Cheers! 🍻
Glaive Tempest feels super clunky atm. Fel-scarred is soooo busy. Are we certain Glaive Tempest does more single target than Inner Demon? Especially given that the latter will always be perma buffed by modifiers while the former will not? The middle ground of Inner Demon + Dance with Fate seems really nice , since it takes away glaive tempest and has reduced eye beam cast = more time to push your other 100 buttons
I just started trying this build in m+. I usually don’t enjoy the longer eye beam cast, but so far it’s not annoying me too much. My results at the end of the run weren’t astronomically different. I do enjoy the inner demon animation smashing into my target 😈
I prefer to use this build, but sometimes with Glaive Tempest. I did some tests on +8 +9, all on grim batol and necrotic and I always performed better with this build focused on eye beam. The difference in overall damage compared to blade dance with 2 points is absurd.
I will say I loved those Amir videos and the Queen video helped me so much. I was not optimizing my damage on webs and spamming meta right before the last root cast before intermission is SO pog
Would love to see more videos like the one where you go over your play while fighting a raid boss. It would be amazing to see a series narrating what and why you're doing xyz vs each of the bosses. Thanks for the content
I have switched to this talent and been doing 10's with it and I find it a lot better for ST on bosses for ST when removing GT. In real key scenarios the non GT build in my exp just performs better. Great video as always!
Do the eye beam bug fixes and talent choices here (specifically blind fury) change the rotation? The current rec is to VR + Eye beam into inertia. Is it now better to include eye beam in the inertia window?
@@VooDooSaurus The current suggestion from Shaderak is to rush before eye beam in AoE right? Are you sticking to VR+EB then fel rush? Or were you just referring to ST?
Hey VooDoo, would you mind doing a video on the best gems to use? I am using the Culminating Blasphemite and I assume it's best to have at least 1 of every gem to stack the crit % but when I do sims, they tell me to go with all Mastery/Crit gems. I realise this was briefly mentioned in your season 1 guide, but with the sims suggesting otherwise, I wanted to know your thoughts
@@paintballguj904 I’m planning on putting a dedicated one out next week probably but I talk about no mover a bit in my big guide video a few weeks ago (the season 1 guide)
Is dropping glaive tempest for second charge of prolonged eye beam a big dps loss? I kinda hate using glaive tempest in no mover. it feels out of place (and often is because range is super small)
@@VooDooSaurus is it normal for FS no mover to do substancially less single target compared to most other classes? currently trying to figure out what im doing so wrong.
Honestly Havoc is horrible right now. Losing the season 3 tier killed our damage outside of cooldowns. We do damage every 4 seconds. The nuclear launch sequence takes forever to get off. It’s ok in raid but feels horrible in m+. If pulls and timings don’t go well in m+ you can get screwed. The season 3 tier set should’ve been tied into aldrachi, it was so fun getting hunt back and always having big spells to hit and immo and blade dance throw glaive worked so well together. I really can’t wait to stop playing m+ with havoc. Truly horrible and unenjoyable.
Hmmmm, i just play dancing with fate and inner demons. Feels the best. I would sim for dungeons 5target sims instead of this dungeon sims. I think i sim myself for blind fury vs dancing Talent today
Ok usually I’m ok with your videos, so I must say I’m so disappointed per se with this video. Bro I get it you like the havoc moving build bro I feel you missed why people want to go more eyebeam and inner deanon… so let me help you.. ITS BECAUSE PEOPLE HATE HATE moving builds so take fell rush and vengeful retreat and focus more on stationary eyebeam talents please.
Im not really sure what you expect anymore the way havoc is designed is you can play no mover but it just does way less damage 18% on your burst is insanely noticable. I feel like if you are set on playing a no mover class to maybe just swap classes personally. I think havocs flavor at this point is just to be a movement based class.
@@gonzalezc2832 I mean regardless on how you feel about movement talents, that’s just not what this video is about Either way, movement remains to be the best way to play havoc in mythic +, although you can no mover in raid it’ll be fine
played the new build in some 10s and I blasted, love it. GT felt pretty bad + I wasnt using it proper and now I dont even have to use it
Love the videos man. I got back into WoW Season 3 of Dragonflight and have made Keystone master in both seasons thanks to you. Clear, concise and well spoken. Cheers! 🍻
hello voodoo, everyone here
Glaive Tempest feels super clunky atm. Fel-scarred is soooo busy. Are we certain Glaive Tempest does more single target than Inner Demon? Especially given that the latter will always be perma buffed by modifiers while the former will not? The middle ground of Inner Demon + Dance with Fate seems really nice , since it takes away glaive tempest and has reduced eye beam cast = more time to push your other 100 buttons
@@FelFireGazeTV the ST comment was more so aimed at DWF, less so the Gt/ID choice
I just started trying this build in m+. I usually don’t enjoy the longer eye beam cast, but so far it’s not annoying me too much. My results at the end of the run weren’t astronomically different. I do enjoy the inner demon animation smashing into my target 😈
I prefer to use this build, but sometimes with Glaive Tempest. I did some tests on +8 +9, all on grim batol and necrotic and I always performed better with this build focused on eye beam. The difference in overall damage compared to blade dance with 2 points is absurd.
I will say I loved those Amir videos and the Queen video helped me so much. I was not optimizing my damage on webs and spamming meta right before the last root cast before intermission is SO pog
Would love to see more videos like the one where you go over your play while fighting a raid boss.
It would be amazing to see a series narrating what and why you're doing xyz vs each of the bosses.
Thanks for the content
@@dashvash5440 planned, did them for Amir and I intend to do them for this raid as well. Just figuring out how many to do each video/format/etc
I have switched to this talent and been doing 10's with it and I find it a lot better for ST on bosses for ST when removing GT. In real key scenarios the non GT build in my exp just performs better. Great video as always!
i will try this today! thank you as always
Hey Voodoo do you have the wago or a link for the WA you use for Havoc?
can you do no mover raid and m+ rotation guide for fel scarred without glaive tempest :D
hey @VooDooSaurus what are your thoughts on the ritual knife trinket? it sims really high. is it a bait?
Hello, swapping to dh soon. I was wondering if anyone knows of rotation addon that will help me learn. Until I can get the muscle memory going.
bro, just watch voodoos rotation guide.
What about Fel barrage? I’ve been doing more damage overall in keys with FB instead of GT.
Can you do a raid guide for havoc dhs by any chance?
Let's go. Thanks Voodoo!
Do the eye beam bug fixes and talent choices here (specifically blind fury) change the rotation? The current rec is to VR + Eye beam into inertia. Is it now better to include eye beam in the inertia window?
@@Dogic1 no rotational changes, the demon surges are still more important to buff
@@VooDooSaurus The current suggestion from Shaderak is to rush before eye beam in AoE right? Are you sticking to VR+EB then fel rush? Or were you just referring to ST?
so basicaly u proc inertia buff for using EB ?
What if I take cycle
How is cycle of hatred now with our 4 piece tier ? I feel getting more eye beam faster could be good
@@jerjersgt it’s not great. Playable but not best
Hey VooDoo, would you mind doing a video on the best gems to use? I am using the Culminating Blasphemite and I assume it's best to have at least 1 of every gem to stack the crit % but when I do sims, they tell me to go with all Mastery/Crit gems. I realise this was briefly mentioned in your season 1 guide, but with the sims suggesting otherwise, I wanted to know your thoughts
@@pawned4617 you want one of each and the rest crit/mastery. there’s a button on the sim to force it to do so otherwise it won’t do it
@@VooDooSaurus Does this include using an amber gem or do you skip this gem?
Can someone point me at a no mover aldraci or fel scarred build and rotation guide thanks!
@@paintballguj904 I’m planning on putting a dedicated one out next week probably but I talk about no mover a bit in my big guide video a few weeks ago (the season 1 guide)
Is dropping glaive tempest for second charge of prolonged eye beam a big dps loss? I kinda hate using glaive tempest in no mover. it feels out of place (and often is because range is super small)
@@Vis_Electra it’s much worse but you can do it if you’d like. If you already have inner demon it’s basically the only other thing to do
@@VooDooSaurus is it normal for FS no mover to do substancially less single target compared to most other classes? currently trying to figure out what im doing so wrong.
Obviously nor the most optimal, but running a non mover with the two points into Dance with fate is nice too
I'm prefering the raid build for M+ thr extra prio damage seems more useful aoe damage for trash doesnt seem like its in short supply
i feel like dance of fate will just be way better though, once you get your 4 pc meal
This is all summed and assuming you have 4 pc
Blind Fury is pog, just give your tank time to catch aggro or you will eye beam into death
@@scaryeris6798 inertia -> beam -> death -> logout
@@VooDooSaurus That's happened to me quite a few times 🤣 especially with DK tanks
@@VooDooSaurus Inertia --> beam --> death --> wtf tank --> logout
the guild achievements constantly popping killed me.
@@PrimeTimeRime 💀
They hotfixed it like the day after I recorded too
Honestly Havoc is horrible right now. Losing the season 3 tier killed our damage outside of cooldowns. We do damage every 4 seconds. The nuclear launch sequence takes forever to get off. It’s ok in raid but feels horrible in m+. If pulls and timings don’t go well in m+ you can get screwed. The season 3 tier set should’ve been tied into aldrachi, it was so fun getting hunt back and always having big spells to hit and immo and blade dance throw glaive worked so well together. I really can’t wait to stop playing m+ with havoc. Truly horrible and unenjoyable.
Hmmmm, i just play dancing with fate and inner demons. Feels the best.
I would sim for dungeons 5target sims instead of this dungeon sims.
I think i sim myself for blind fury vs dancing Talent today
@@Zage95 5-8 is generally the range, I just did 8 for this video. Very VERY hard to accurately sim dungeons so we do the best we can
@@VooDooSaurus ah nice, i thought you did dungeon sim :D
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@@Vict0rRezn0v based
@@Vict0rRezn0v 🦶🏻
Thanks to your comment guidelines popup, I cannot post my absolutely hilarious comment.
@@solre1 never stop shining you gem
Oh so its the build ive been running the entire expansion that everyone told me was wrong?
Funny.
Well yeah, he explains it in the video, but it was wrong because it was bugged. Now that it's fixed it's not wrong.
yes, the build WAS wrong. That only changed last week.
Ok usually I’m ok with your videos, so I must say I’m so disappointed per se with this video. Bro I get it you like the havoc moving build bro I feel you missed why people want to go more eyebeam and inner deanon… so let me help you.. ITS BECAUSE PEOPLE HATE HATE moving builds so take fell rush and vengeful retreat and focus more on stationary eyebeam talents please.
@@gonzalezc2832??
Im not really sure what you expect anymore the way havoc is designed is you can play no mover but it just does way less damage 18% on your burst is insanely noticable. I feel like if you are set on playing a no mover class to maybe just swap classes personally. I think havocs flavor at this point is just to be a movement based class.
@@gonzalezc2832 I mean regardless on how you feel about movement talents, that’s just not what this video is about
Either way, movement remains to be the best way to play havoc in mythic +, although you can no mover in raid it’ll be fine
People hate moving builds? I love the mover builds. I go zoom zoom, pew pew and top the meters
That's not what DH is anymore. Play something else if you want to be lazy. Otherwise shut up and do less damage than people who know what's up.