They need to make it worth it for making us wait so long! We need a proper menacing back hand glaive. Legit, I'd be happy with a transmog like the Valeera Demon Hunter skin from Heroes of the Storm. If yall haven't seen it, GOOGLE IT! The weapons and all color variations slapppppp!
Nice video, glad to hear your thoughts and ideas. Hopefully we'll get #anychanges soon. I'd love to see some customization or visual updates to the class the fel fart isnt really doing it for me and the purple boomerang is just sad.
I came late to the party, didnt play DH in its glory days. Fell in love my first time S4 of DF, and this expac makes it so frustrating and overly complicated/awkward, but im a die-hard fan so I still play it as my main. I sincerely hope we get a rework and ill play this until I die regardless. For the Illidari!
One thing I never understood about aldrachi is why they didn't make it so chaos strike then blade dance, or fracture then soul cleave didn't make reavers mark apply in aoe for 1 stack (7%) . It wouldn't instantly fix the tree, but it would make it feel way less shit in aoe imo. Just got to voodoos idea, reavers being a self buff would be sick too
Feels great to have a 2min burst window that takes 18 -20 sec until you have finished it while your Retribution Paladin friend just starts his 2nd burst window right as you finish yours and then u check the dmg meter and you are still behind. XD Think i'm actually about to check out from WoW entirely because Havoc was the only class i really enjoyed playing ever since it's introduction in Legion. And it's only really gone downhill from there in my opinion. I would like to see Demon Hunter's getting a 3rd spec, a fel caster specialization i think should be kind of an obvious spec to have, i mean, Gul'dan was a caster himself and was a fel user although a warlock by nature..
@@flyingraijin5867 Mm maybe you're right. pressing glaive is just not fun imo, so whatever they do to Aldrachi is not gonna fix that for me. But they are not going to fix Aldrachi anyways, Blizzard being Blizzard they stubborn as hell. So they are only going to tune numbers and move shit around really, i don't see a major rework coming before new expansion to them hero talents.
Alas not sure they even watch those so interesting videos at Blizzard ... However we are currently sooo lost at the bottom of the food chain that maybe it means there is a rework ongoing ... maybe ...
I actually wonder if aldrachi soul problem could be adjusted by turning the souls required into combo points as in when u pick up Reaver's glaive you get another bar under your fury bar and every like 3 or 4 fury spending abilities or just 3 or 4 chaos strikes you get a guaranteed combo point
I accidentally started maining a survival hunter, player my hunter once, tried survival, made it a dragon, so now I have double jump and glide...Yeah im sold for now haha
Well, you said it yourself. All AR needs is a buff. Will it be insane for players who do things perfectly? Yes. As it should be. Playing the more difficult thing should give you more damage. If you wanna control it, make it more difficult but more rewarding, like, make the movement damage talents interact with the tree. Imagine Inertia giving you double the bonus when Thrill of the Fight is active. This forces a 5 second burst window with insane damage, but it will be hard to line up.
@@joeyl564 because of the decision that eyebeam already in demon form doesn’t give you more demonsurges, and all the “outside of demon form” nodes, SD is actually pretty horrible for fel-scarred. Cycle is alright, but you still miss out on demon surges each meta
@VooDooSaurus yeah i know, thats why im saying that they feel backwards.. like you'd think for fel-scarred youd want to be in Demon form more often.. and for Aldrachi being in demon for would be less important, and would favor a momentum build.. or saving inertia for the giga glaive..
Felblade dealing extra damage per soul consumed would help, also a chance to split souls off with all damage for Aldrachi. Flamebound in fel scarred is dumb, not even remotely competitive, should provide a permanent immolation aura in addition to what it does now, seperate from the useable ones just so you can still press the button and have a temporary bonus 1
Hey man. Here we are again... It is insane that Aldrachi made it out of beta the way it is. What is even more insane is nothing has been done about it so many months into the season
just make aldrachi reaver about glaive tempest / throw glaive. Maybe use the tierset from dragonflight i dont know. The whole consume souls thing is just weird. Let me just throw a huge bouncing glaive every 15 or something.
I think involving glaive tempest is a great idea, not sure why it's fallen out of favour so much. I always thought it was a fun button to push, I think it was a casualty of added movement to the rotation.
@@Flavetheson right now it’s a casualty of the tierset wanting us to push chaos strike so much, and it’s lack of synergy with fel scarred making it to where we don’t push it for large lengths of time It also just hasn’t received tuning in a while when other abilities around it have been buffed up
@@VooDooSaurus I meant more from a design standpoint, it feels like an iconic DH ability that you could build around in the tree but instead feels like an afterthought that rarely makes it into builds. It seems like a no brainer to have it more involved in builds that take the throw glaive talents.
@@HealMaxResto they *could* make it work, illidan has some spells. Would be a bit iffy though, at most would be a ranged melee hybrid. But a ranged spec would kinda kill havoc which is the issue
@@Daihuu it’s my main and I don’t really have the time or desire to reroll, especially since I built my channel off of it. I have some alts but I just really don’t reroll often
I think two things have brought DH down over the years. We complained about 2 things, we wanted a more bursty profile instead of the high consistent dmg we had for so long and we wanted mover talents to be impactful again. We got what we asked for and we're worse off for it in both cases imo. Now we have these super powerful burst windows that revolve around multiple movement buttons and other damage amps that leave us doing tank dmg outside of those windows. You argue that chaotic transformation is the problem with our openers and burst windows but its just as easy to take all the forced movement globals out and in my opinion its cooler to eyebeam twice than fel rush for 18% more dmg for 5 seconds. I liked this series, although i would change things in different ways than you would I thought you really highlighted the problems in all the trees and liked your idea of adding a third spec to seperate some of the havoc themes to easier build around them in interesting ways, especially since the community is so split on mover/nonmover.
@@Flavetheson that would certainly help solve the length issue, although still slightly less as fel rush is only half a global, but another big problem with CTr is the desynch it causes with EssB, and the fact that it means we HAVE to synch eyebeam and meta. But yes, tons of ways to fix problems. Glad you enjoyed it!
Man, u have to check what happen with havoc after reset, investigate dat pls, after reset my overall dmg is WAY more high at least m+. I’m doing 12/13’s for exemple, dawnbreaker before 1.3/1.5 now 1.8/2, city 1.5/1.6 now 1.8/2, necrotic before 1.6/1.9 now 1.8/2.3, arakara before 1.6/1.9 now 1.7/2.1 everything dat values pugging, didnt change my gear got like 0.5 ilvl this week, got perismatic. Did dungeons before reset, wted the reset and did more while i realease dat. Didnt see any blue post about havoc, or i start playing even better in 2 hours or this about my head idk haha
@@Nemmedc nothing has changed and it’s all in your head lol. Dungeons have SO many variables. Playing with worse/better players, different routes, crit damage, how you played the dungeon, etc are all variables that could (and would) contributed to what you’re seeing.
@@VooDooSaurus ye like i suspect, but for who did already more than 300 runs this season, dat was conpletly diferent on the last ones after reset dats why i asked u know haha and we have seen hidden changes before, another reason to ask u
I disagree that Fel-Scarred is good overall. You said it yourself - the opener is one of the longest in the game, and the gameplay between burst windows is damn near non-existent. I get that it looks better when compared to the disaster that is Aldrachi Reaver, but that isn't saying much. Frost DK has an extremely similar profile with 45 second burst windows + a 2 min yet I don't feel bored to tears or like I'm doing tank damage when playing outside of those windows. Blizzard has figured this out for other specs, just not Havoc for some reason. Havoc needs a complete overhaul but it doesn't seem like Blizzard has many (if any) ideas for the spec. This is proven by the lack of choices within the talent trees when compared to something like Shaman or Death Knight.
@@xacid480 it’s not used often *rotationally* for Aldrachi reaver. It existing for a very strong dr in incredibly high keys that you need to SAVE for those moments means you use it even less often
I hate how DH feels. The Hero Trees are either complete garbage Aldrachi Reaver or ok Fel-Scarred. Tier bonus from Amirdrassil The part that your Blade Dance would throw a Glaive needs to come back it made the spec feel better. DH needs worked on again the rework was great but it is the Tier set bonuses that made both specs work when we lost those tier set bonuses the rework fell apart cause the tier held the rework together. Like I love Havoc but right now I can't bring myself to play it. Havoc just isn't fun.
I dont know man, i love my Havoc. I dont really care what they do with it, they can nerf it to the ground, but I will still run around and shoot lasers from my eyes. Thats why it is called MAIN.
@@Peachy32 it’s not all my content, I just did a little mini series and really went in depth about it. You can go back and see all the guides and other content and stuff
Imagine being the class with the fewest hero talent trees, and not even one works properly…😂
We're getting a rework, new spec, and legendary in midnight once we see Papa Illidan again.
@@sioc7478 I think illidan isn’t back until the last titan unfortunately
@@VooDooSaurus then we are getting the rework after two expansions XD
May God give power to your words!
I agree with you but I think itll be based on the void/Alleria and we will not see Illidan again until the Titans return in TLT
They need to make it worth it for making us wait so long! We need a proper menacing back hand glaive. Legit, I'd be happy with a transmog like the Valeera Demon Hunter skin from Heroes of the Storm. If yall haven't seen it, GOOGLE IT! The weapons and all color variations slapppppp!
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Nice video, glad to hear your thoughts and ideas. Hopefully we'll get #anychanges soon. I'd love to see some customization or visual updates to the class the fel fart isnt really doing it for me and the purple boomerang is just sad.
I came late to the party, didnt play DH in its glory days. Fell in love my first time S4 of DF, and this expac makes it so frustrating and overly complicated/awkward, but im a die-hard fan so I still play it as my main. I sincerely hope we get a rework and ill play this until I die regardless. For the Illidari!
One thing I never understood about aldrachi is why they didn't make it so chaos strike then blade dance, or fracture then soul cleave didn't make reavers mark apply in aoe for 1 stack (7%) . It wouldn't instantly fix the tree, but it would make it feel way less shit in aoe imo.
Just got to voodoos idea, reavers being a self buff would be sick too
Feels great to have a 2min burst window that takes 18 -20 sec until you have finished it while your Retribution Paladin friend just starts his 2nd burst window right as you finish yours and then u check the dmg meter and you are still behind. XD
Think i'm actually about to check out from WoW entirely because Havoc was the only class i really enjoyed playing ever since it's introduction in Legion.
And it's only really gone downhill from there in my opinion.
I would like to see Demon Hunter's getting a 3rd spec, a fel caster specialization i think should be kind of an obvious spec to have, i mean, Gul'dan was a caster himself and was a fel user although a warlock by nature..
a ranged dh spec would be destro lock. I dont think we need a 3rd spec. Im ok with a solid havoc+aldrachi reaver rework
@@flyingraijin5867 Mm maybe you're right.
pressing glaive is just not fun imo, so whatever they do to Aldrachi is not gonna fix that for me.
But they are not going to fix Aldrachi anyways, Blizzard being Blizzard they stubborn as hell.
So they are only going to tune numbers and move shit around really, i don't see a major rework coming before new expansion to them hero talents.
Alas not sure they even watch those so interesting videos at Blizzard ... However we are currently sooo lost at the bottom of the food chain that maybe it means there is a rework ongoing ... maybe ...
im hoping
I actually wonder if aldrachi soul problem could be adjusted by turning the souls required into combo points as in when u pick up Reaver's glaive you get another bar under your fury bar and every like 3 or 4 fury spending abilities or just 3 or 4 chaos strikes you get a guaranteed combo point
I accidentally started maining a survival hunter, player my hunter once, tried survival, made it a dragon, so now I have double jump and glide...Yeah im sold for now haha
@@MrDmension3d almost the same thing at this point, but with dev attention
Well, you said it yourself. All AR needs is a buff. Will it be insane for players who do things perfectly? Yes. As it should be. Playing the more difficult thing should give you more damage. If you wanna control it, make it more difficult but more rewarding, like, make the movement damage talents interact with the tree. Imagine Inertia giving you double the bonus when Thrill of the Fight is active. This forces a 5 second burst window with insane damage, but it will be hard to line up.
i think that our builds for each Hero talents are backwards.. youd think that SD and Cycle would be better for Fel-Scarred..
@@joeyl564 because of the decision that eyebeam already in demon form doesn’t give you more demonsurges, and all the “outside of demon form” nodes, SD is actually pretty horrible for fel-scarred. Cycle is alright, but you still miss out on demon surges each meta
@VooDooSaurus yeah i know, thats why im saying that they feel backwards.. like you'd think for fel-scarred youd want to be in Demon form more often.. and for Aldrachi being in demon for would be less important, and would favor a momentum build.. or saving inertia for the giga glaive..
Felblade dealing extra damage per soul consumed would help, also a chance to split souls off with all damage for Aldrachi.
Flamebound in fel scarred is dumb, not even remotely competitive, should provide a permanent immolation aura in addition to what it does now, seperate from the useable ones just so you can still press the button and have a temporary bonus 1
Havoc was my first end game spec and i miss it... But the gameplay and class design keep me away, praying for a meaningful (and good) rework
Hey man. Here we are again... It is insane that Aldrachi made it out of beta the way it is. What is even more insane is nothing has been done about it so many months into the season
just make aldrachi reaver about glaive tempest / throw glaive. Maybe use the tierset from dragonflight i dont know. The whole consume souls thing is just weird. Let me just throw a huge bouncing glaive every 15 or something.
I think involving glaive tempest is a great idea, not sure why it's fallen out of favour so much. I always thought it was a fun button to push, I think it was a casualty of added movement to the rotation.
@@Flavetheson right now it’s a casualty of the tierset wanting us to push chaos strike so much, and it’s lack of synergy with fel scarred making it to where we don’t push it for large lengths of time
It also just hasn’t received tuning in a while when other abilities around it have been buffed up
@@VooDooSaurus I meant more from a design standpoint, it feels like an iconic DH ability that you could build around in the tree but instead feels like an afterthought that rarely makes it into builds. It seems like a no brainer to have it more involved in builds that take the throw glaive talents.
What about creating another dps spec for demon hunter and make it all glaive focused so it would be a ranged dh??
@@HealMaxResto mentioned another spec in my last video, but it can’t be ranged. Has to be another melee
@VooDooSaurus im new to the demon hunter world/lore but would a ranged spec not work because it isn't lore accurate?
@@HealMaxResto they *could* make it work, illidan has some spells. Would be a bit iffy though, at most would be a ranged melee hybrid.
But a ranged spec would kinda kill havoc which is the issue
Hey Voodoo, why do you still play/main DH despite all the problems it has?
@@Daihuu it’s my main and I don’t really have the time or desire to reroll, especially since I built my channel off of it. I have some alts but I just really don’t reroll often
The fact that we have talent that reduces threat says it all about what blizz thinks about havoc. Might aswell just remove whole spec from game.
Bit dramatic
Damn! Seeing these reviews really makes me realise how bad things are
I think two things have brought DH down over the years. We complained about 2 things, we wanted a more bursty profile instead of the high consistent dmg we had for so long and we wanted mover talents to be impactful again.
We got what we asked for and we're worse off for it in both cases imo. Now we have these super powerful burst windows that revolve around multiple movement buttons and other damage amps that leave us doing tank dmg outside of those windows.
You argue that chaotic transformation is the problem with our openers and burst windows but its just as easy to take all the forced movement globals out and in my opinion its cooler to eyebeam twice than fel rush for 18% more dmg for 5 seconds.
I liked this series, although i would change things in different ways than you would I thought you really highlighted the problems in all the trees and liked your idea of adding a third spec to seperate some of the havoc themes to easier build around them in interesting ways, especially since the community is so split on mover/nonmover.
@@Flavetheson that would certainly help solve the length issue, although still slightly less as fel rush is only half a global, but another big problem with CTr is the desynch it causes with EssB, and the fact that it means we HAVE to synch eyebeam and meta. But yes, tons of ways to fix problems.
Glad you enjoyed it!
Man, u have to check what happen with havoc after reset, investigate dat pls, after reset my overall dmg is WAY more high at least m+. I’m doing 12/13’s for exemple, dawnbreaker before 1.3/1.5 now 1.8/2, city 1.5/1.6 now 1.8/2, necrotic before 1.6/1.9 now 1.8/2.3, arakara before 1.6/1.9 now 1.7/2.1 everything dat values pugging, didnt change my gear got like 0.5 ilvl this week, got perismatic. Did dungeons before reset, wted the reset and did more while i realease dat. Didnt see any blue post about havoc, or i start playing even better in 2 hours or this about my head idk haha
@@Nemmedc nothing has changed and it’s all in your head lol. Dungeons have SO many variables. Playing with worse/better players, different routes, crit damage, how you played the dungeon, etc are all variables that could (and would) contributed to what you’re seeing.
@@VooDooSaurus ye like i suspect, but for who did already more than 300 runs this season, dat was conpletly diferent on the last ones after reset dats why i asked u know haha and we have seen hidden changes before, another reason to ask u
I disagree that Fel-Scarred is good overall.
You said it yourself - the opener is one of the longest in the game, and the gameplay between burst windows is damn near non-existent. I get that it looks better when compared to the disaster that is Aldrachi Reaver, but that isn't saying much. Frost DK has an extremely similar profile with 45 second burst windows + a 2 min yet I don't feel bored to tears or like I'm doing tank damage when playing outside of those windows. Blizzard has figured this out for other specs, just not Havoc for some reason.
Havoc needs a complete overhaul but it doesn't seem like Blizzard has many (if any) ideas for the spec. This is proven by the lack of choices within the talent trees when compared to something like Shaman or Death Knight.
@@SativaSamurai1 good overall compared to Aldrachi, but I say at the end that neither tree is great.
You say that felblade isn't used often for Aldrachi Reaver but then praise the use of taking the DR talent...
@@xacid480 it’s not used often *rotationally* for Aldrachi reaver. It existing for a very strong dr in incredibly high keys that you need to SAVE for those moments means you use it even less often
I hate how DH feels. The Hero Trees are either complete garbage Aldrachi Reaver or ok Fel-Scarred. Tier bonus from Amirdrassil The part that your Blade Dance would throw a Glaive needs to come back it made the spec feel better. DH needs worked on again the rework was great but it is the Tier set bonuses that made both specs work when we lost those tier set bonuses the rework fell apart cause the tier held the rework together. Like I love Havoc but right now I can't bring myself to play it. Havoc just isn't fun.
I dont know man, i love my Havoc. I dont really care what they do with it, they can nerf it to the ground, but I will still run around and shoot lasers from my eyes.
Thats why it is called MAIN.
Free fiesta. thumbs down for Realz.
@@beepy409 I have 0 impact on either of those people 💀 I’m not a mod and I have no contact with Realz
bro all your content is just explaining everything wrong with the class/specs, which i get, DH creators are pretty starved for things to talk about rn
@@Peachy32 it’s not all my content, I just did a little mini series and really went in depth about it.
You can go back and see all the guides and other content and stuff
@@VooDooSaurus meant in recent days lol
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