Avoid this common mistake in mid-tempo double bass drumming

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  • Опубликовано: 29 май 2024
  • Avoid this common mistake in mid-tempo double bass drumming
    The reason you're stuck at a specific tempo with your double bass drumming happens for a few reasons.
    The main cause of that is because of your drum technique.
    If you're stomping on your pedals expecting to be able to play for longer, you'll know that's not going to work.
    Do what I'm showing you in the video instead.

Комментарии • 118

  • @daftnote
    @daftnote 24 дня назад +377

    holy shit this is exactly the problem i have. not able to ankle it fully but this explained it perfectly

    • @CameronFleury
      @CameronFleury  23 дня назад +21

      I'm glad you found the video helpful!

  • @eeeeee8762
    @eeeeee8762 Месяц назад +201

    I've heard of this, I think it was called a "Heel roll." I first saw it in action when I watched a drum cam of The Rev playing live, his technique was impeccable
    I should mention I don't have any drums and don't know any lingo, so a "heel roll" could be something entirely different... actually, maybe it was "heel toe?" They sound similar

    • @TheJakePoole
      @TheJakePoole Месяц назад +12

      Heel-Toe is an entirely different technique, meant to do double strokes. There are so many different techniques, though. I've been working on both heel-toe and ankle lately. They're both very weird to pick up on for an old "stomper" like myself. Haha

    • @dbmdrums1105
      @dbmdrums1105 24 дня назад +10

      I think you meant heel toe.
      The Rev I believe was definitely a ankle technique player.
      Heel toe is something what Art Cruz from Lamb of God does quite a lot.
      I am also a heel toe player.
      I prefer using it even in mid tempos of 140 too.. It's less taxing to the foot.

    • @chetkersey5027
      @chetkersey5027 2 дня назад

      @@eeeeee8762 youre talking about the live in the lbc video aren’t you? I have been trying to find any footage of his feet because his technique is so awesome to me, clear, fast, and powerful. Let me know anything else further you find out!!

  • @stubstunner
    @stubstunner 27 дней назад +70

    This is how i learned to play! It also helps you get consistent doubles or triplets playing with one pedal.

    • @CameronFleury
      @CameronFleury  27 дней назад +6

      One pedal, endless possibilities! Keep rockin' those doubles and triplets.

    • @generalconsumer9520
      @generalconsumer9520 День назад

      I miss my friends double bass and couldn't understand my brother-in-law telling me to use my heels. But I made noise. My bro's drum teachings are "can you count to 4? That's how I learned." Yeah yeah, we know.

  • @MGBlast669
    @MGBlast669 11 дней назад +9

    This is sick! Appreciate the breakdown!

  • @generalconsumer9520
    @generalconsumer9520 День назад +1

    Thank you, literally just had this conversation and AI must've heard because this video popped up and I was sold a double bass pedal.

  • @jade_bee.2579
    @jade_bee.2579 11 дней назад +10

    Loving your black panther kit, and I’m so jealous of that snare, and also we use the same kick heads, but
    Put a piece of tape over part of your snare wires.. or like, an o ring on the batter, please, every kick hit is ringing like crazy
    Not to hate, it’s just not pleasant lmao, it’d piss me off real quick if it was on my kit
    Also, good explanation and breakdown for this, good for beginners to get up speed and control!.

  • @tophatparrot9888
    @tophatparrot9888 23 дня назад +4

    The bassdrum sounds like an AK-47

  • @drummerw17
    @drummerw17 5 дней назад +1

    Excellent lesson my great friend!!! 👍🎼🥁🎼👍.

  • @shotgunchris
    @shotgunchris 13 дней назад +1

    Thanks for comprehensive tutorials!

  • @drumversitytt3141
    @drumversitytt3141 Месяц назад +13

    Great info thanks !

  • @Kekistani_Insurgent
    @Kekistani_Insurgent 11 дней назад +1

    THIS WAS SO HELPFUL OMG

  • @MORTALVAIL
    @MORTALVAIL Месяц назад +2

    Very solid advice!

  • @jfmax2000
    @jfmax2000 11 дней назад +1

    Dead On...Exactly Right Sir 😎👊💯💯

  • @wilkinsnl
    @wilkinsnl 3 дня назад

    Love that snare man, I have the un-hammered one and a hammered 10”. They’ve been in my collection for years. The 14x6.5 is in incredible shape, none of the wires ever broke, everything in top condition. On the hammered 10” one of the lugs crumbled on the inside. I tried to get a replacement from Mapex but they don’t make them anymore. I guess I’ll have to cannibalize one of my other lesser black panthers. Killer vid.

    • @CameronFleury
      @CameronFleury  2 дня назад

      Dude, your snare collection sounds awesome! Shame about the lug, but hey, that's just another opportunity to make your drum kit even more unique!

  • @RasputinPrime75
    @RasputinPrime75 9 дней назад +1

    Best bass drum heads ever Evans EMad, I use them on my bass drums as well. Aquarian Super Kick is good too.

  • @JoshParkerDrums
    @JoshParkerDrums 3 дня назад

    Thanks dude this was great 🤘

  • @Pslamist
    @Pslamist 11 дней назад

    SICK tone.

  • @Yupppi
    @Yupppi 5 дней назад

    Doing some judo and running I grimace for that amount of calf work for longer bouts... The lower legs get fried so fast compared to other parts of the body when you really use them. Since most of the days we don't really need them to work, just hang around moving without loading. Shoutouts to drummers, it makes all the sense why they're so fit.

  • @jamesadams7131
    @jamesadams7131 11 дней назад

    That Mapex Black Panther Black Widow kit is sweet!

  • @weareallbeingwatched4602
    @weareallbeingwatched4602 19 дней назад +1

    The bell under the hihat looks like tinnitus was here

  • @thejbo777
    @thejbo777 4 дня назад

    Good info

  • @larrybecker9565
    @larrybecker9565 10 дней назад

    Awesome 🥁

  • @j51010
    @j51010 3 часа назад

    Thanks

  • @aleksthevoyager1260
    @aleksthevoyager1260 Месяц назад +4

    Hey your videos keep popping up in my feed and I really liked the snare tone in one of your other videos but I couldn’t find the one so I’ll just comment here. What snare do you use?

  • @alemon22
    @alemon22 10 дней назад

    many thanks

  • @ShartimusPrime
    @ShartimusPrime 7 дней назад

    How important is seat-height in this? I notice most metal drummers are up in the stratosphere, almost standing up. Does that minimize the leg lifting help force you to rely on ankle movement?

  • @user-zu8ip2ci7q
    @user-zu8ip2ci7q День назад

    I just learned something new

  • @TheWerequat
    @TheWerequat 2 дня назад

    Oddly enough, this is how I've always played.

  • @bb3208
    @bb3208 Месяц назад +2

    Bro science. Dig it.

  • @ramonkey2939
    @ramonkey2939 14 дней назад

    Makes sense!

  • @hauntedhose
    @hauntedhose 11 дней назад

    Blabba dabba dat 🤙🏻

  • @gamingwithdakotaandmore4546
    @gamingwithdakotaandmore4546 10 дней назад

    I'm a guitarist and I watched the whole thing lol

  • @tamski6567
    @tamski6567 9 дней назад

    Any tips how to setup the 2nd pedal?

  • @SPINNINGMYWHEELS777
    @SPINNINGMYWHEELS777 4 дня назад

    same rule applies to one kick pedal which I can make sound like a double bass pedal

  • @mikebruce17
    @mikebruce17 Месяц назад +2

    Im not a drummer and have never touched a drumkit, but that almost looks like you can almost think of it like jogging on the pedals. Use the biggest muscles available to accomplish the task in order to keep up your stamina.
    Also, if im getting sent drum lesson shorts, RUclips has an odd image of who i am.

  • @kengyang1908
    @kengyang1908 Месяц назад +1

    That's how u get awesome burrito diarrhea blast beats

  • @Unlocked985
    @Unlocked985 Месяц назад

    This was muscle memory for me since I even started playing drums tbh I sometimes even play pedal too fast

    • @fuckcensorship69
      @fuckcensorship69 23 дня назад

      You need to practice at various tempos if your feet arent playing along

  • @niluss6
    @niluss6 3 дня назад

    Kinda confusing as it looks the same visually, but I think I kinda get it and have to try it. 👍

    • @CameronFleury
      @CameronFleury  2 дня назад

      Thank you for being open to trying it out despite the initial confusion!

  • @canterburytells9770
    @canterburytells9770 2 дня назад

    One of your toms frequency is off and reacting to you bass drum. Great advice either way.

    • @CameronFleury
      @CameronFleury  День назад

      Maybe my tom has a mind of its own and wants to groove with the bass drum!

  • @rontalley8385
    @rontalley8385 11 дней назад

    You said balls

  • @TherealTFfromKingston
    @TherealTFfromKingston 16 дней назад

    What tension do you have both pedals at? I find with my cheap double pedals, one is always more tight than the other. My right leg pedal is always more loose than my left leg pedal

  • @blahblahgdp
    @blahblahgdp 15 дней назад

    Is ankling it the same as building muscle? I mean i know it is, but i tire out rly quick

  • @wantrutree6517
    @wantrutree6517 10 дней назад

    joey jordison doesn't want to teach us. 😂

  • @spaomalley
    @spaomalley 8 дней назад

    Lol. You said balls

  • @keving2918
    @keving2918 14 дней назад +1

    👨‍🦲: not quite my tempo

  • @Punxsutawney_
    @Punxsutawney_ 29 дней назад

    Harmonic sound

  • @mikerodrigues4623
    @mikerodrigues4623 10 дней назад

    Não entendi uma só palavra, mas peguei a visão 🍷🗿🤝

  • @broomeydbr9
    @broomeydbr9 10 дней назад

    Why does the kick sound like someone slapping a ham?

  • @nunonthesun
    @nunonthesun 6 дней назад

    So basically you’re just playing with your heels? Like the essential motion is coming from you picking up and letting down your heel? That’s how I understood it. Somebody correct me if I’m wrong.

  • @user-oy3fi4sk8r
    @user-oy3fi4sk8r 9 дней назад

    He-he balls

  • @karkarey
    @karkarey 8 дней назад

    This was also sort of like Derek Roddy's flatfoot technique

    • @CameronFleury
      @CameronFleury  8 дней назад +1

      Very much so! We had Derek do a masterclass inside of our community and we touched on it as well.

    • @karkarey
      @karkarey 8 дней назад +1

      @@CameronFleury wow, I didn't know that .that's really cool! Thanks for replying

  • @GerkoRodriguez
    @GerkoRodriguez 12 дней назад

    Bro that zil bel is asking for some personal space 😢

  • @Kinseliplier
    @Kinseliplier 11 дней назад

    How were you able to Play it so Fast that First Time? You must have Bionic Terminator Legs.

  • @cfpzona
    @cfpzona 10 дней назад

    I wonder if that would cause issues with the Achilles over time. Ok fine, I'm an old giy with concerns.

    • @jzu907
      @jzu907 9 дней назад

      maybe but do warmups and physical therapy exercises and itll probs be fine

  • @the_rustydoornob1164
    @the_rustydoornob1164 11 дней назад +1

    I need a taller throne, I’m a tall ass dude so I can’t get the angle I want to have good technique

    • @neptunesgold1216
      @neptunesgold1216 5 дней назад

      @@the_rustydoornob1164 get the tama 1st chair hydraulic bike seat style throne it's the best drum chair out there. It also raises just high enough to get that nice angle for me and I'm 6 ft 4 inches. Raise the throne as high high as it will go and that will work perfect for you. The tama 1st chair hydraulic motorcycle seat style.

  • @tommybass22
    @tommybass22 9 дней назад

    It’s called “free floating” it comes with time.

  • @tommybobommy9208
    @tommybobommy9208 9 дней назад

    Do you think a good throne is important? I feel like it’s all about technique but also the technique is to be comfortable. So I think a a good throne and pedal go a lot further than people think.

    • @RasputinPrime75
      @RasputinPrime75 9 дней назад

      A good drum throne is very important, especially if your playing for long periods of time. Have had alot of thrones over the years but in my humble opinion Roc N Soc are a cut above the rest. Functionality and comfort nothing comes close.

  • @Jesus-thy-twost
    @Jesus-thy-twost 2 дня назад

    Dude you have calves of steel there

  • @jonnhardy
    @jonnhardy 25 дней назад

    Eloy casagrande is thebest pedaling drum

  • @monstrg3349
    @monstrg3349 10 дней назад

    Whos re-watching in 2024

  • @DOOM.SLAYER666
    @DOOM.SLAYER666 8 дней назад

    Everyone is different brother, i dont use ankle or swivel or double stroke but use back of heal plus full leg and get upto 280 bpm, its just how i adapted. Never practiced always just played along to Nile and ORIGIN and now make my own music 🤘🤘🔥

  • @ray.a7343
    @ray.a7343 Месяц назад

    Wow you look like your sitting really high I m at almost 90 degrees maybe I gotta sit higher my legs kill when playing double bass 😢

  • @jaysantiago9673
    @jaysantiago9673 10 дней назад

    Nice. The life of the short-legged drummer. Your drum stool is too high, it should only be 10 inches off of the ground because you're leg- deficient. Also, a Fischer-Price drum set would fit you perfect. Totally kidding, keep spreading knowledge and SLAM ON!!!!!

  • @jeffmyrick7517
    @jeffmyrick7517 Месяц назад +2

    Want to play fast?.. Practice!!!!!

    • @roromoho
      @roromoho 12 дней назад

      Yes but efficiently, otherwise its useless

    • @CameronFleury
      @CameronFleury  9 дней назад

      Practice the right way. More practice doesn't = more results.

  • @roromoho
    @roromoho 12 дней назад

    Elvis Presley was the King...of double bass drumming but he didnt know

  • @matrug0078
    @matrug0078 26 дней назад

    Chris turner would like to have a talk with you

  • @scor440
    @scor440 13 дней назад

    This is double bass pedal playing not double bass as per say Louie Bellson

  • @bennievargas2673
    @bennievargas2673 14 дней назад

    Try white and grey socks next time

  • @devinanderson6716
    @devinanderson6716 6 дней назад

    toe balls

  • @reeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeet
    @reeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeet 11 дней назад

    Idk why I'm watching this I'm a guitarist💀💀

  • @haninorahman4689
    @haninorahman4689 8 дней назад

    Please add text, i cant hear clearly

  • @malcolmbliss777
    @malcolmbliss777 11 дней назад

    You're sitting awfully high. I try to keep my knee at a 90 degree angle.

    • @CameronFleury
      @CameronFleury  9 дней назад

      I'm really not sitting all that high

    • @malcolmbliss777
      @malcolmbliss777 9 дней назад

      @@CameronFleury I had a podiatrist tell me that any sitting position athletics need to conform to good posture, so u don't get problems later. 90 degree at waist, 90 degree at knee, 90 degree at elbow. That's "starting/stopping" positions, as moving all over is what drumming is all about. A dance done while sitting down. Oh, and those split chairs do wonders for not aggravating tail bone issues. I don't have one, but I tried one once and loved it.

    • @malcolmbliss777
      @malcolmbliss777 9 дней назад

      It was my podiatrist bc I got ingrown nails so bad when I first started. I was wearing the wrong size shoe. Also a big no no.

  • @ronbaker8383
    @ronbaker8383 9 дней назад

    I have always played like that faster action

  • @Tbone4255
    @Tbone4255 12 дней назад

    Just get adhd thats what i do.

  • @wen_dequilla666
    @wen_dequilla666 8 дней назад

    Dude your drum technique is tiring😂😂😂so much tension on your drumming but i must say playing sweevel is better on your technique

  • @woodchopper7962
    @woodchopper7962 9 дней назад

    Good advice but tune that bass drum dude

    • @CameronFleury
      @CameronFleury  9 дней назад

      The tension is there for triggering.

  • @Evanmross4488
    @Evanmross4488 9 дней назад

    No shit... if this hasn't become very apparent to you as a drummer than pick up a new instrument.

  • @cour1988
    @cour1988 26 дней назад

    Your toes have balls?

  • @martyc3447
    @martyc3447 10 дней назад

    Ummmmmmmm, what the sigma is THIS!? How could you praise such an unplayable heap of garbage!

  • @matttoles4608
    @matttoles4608 11 дней назад

    Bass drum sounds like trash

  • @giuseppedemaria5363
    @giuseppedemaria5363 4 дня назад

    Sei solo un casinista.