@@sciphan To probably see how well received it will be. In hindsight, they played it very safe with AC6 having a straightforward single player and a traditional pvp mode. Changing things up like they are in Nightreign is a risk and it's better to test the waters before going on the deep end. Very common business practice in the industry.
@dsaBOSS C'mon man. Do we really need to test co-op in a completely different style of game to know how it would be received in a franchise where the existing fanbase has been screaming for it for 20 years? BTW, yes, Armored Core has a pre-existing fanbase that has nothing to do with Souls.
Keep this in mind. They said Armored Core 6 was the game they distilled their game making experience into. There will be a pollination effect eventually.
Sometimes I still can't believe how they managed to keep AC6 a true Armored Core game while still able to sprinkle a little bit of souls elements into it.
@@alb.88 the stagger system is not perfect but personally I think it's fine. I understand if some people didn't like it but it makes the combat feels more dynamic.
@ 9ball is unique though. I don't think he's been repeated outside of the 5th series with the Reaper Squad. (I'm not counting AllMind because not red but Ayre COULD be H0) White Glint on the other hand was based on Silhouette or rather it became its antithesis. I mean the name is Haze (Fog Shadow) so there's more things attached to him.
I have my favorite AC games on roms and I haven't stopped playing AC6. If being a AC fan for 20+ years has taught me anything is patience and appreciation for what i have.
I mean, it’s been a decade since the last AC game and they have to gauge the popularity before dumping another load of money on a new game. AC6 came out just over a year ago and did super well. We’re getting more Armored Core and soon. They’re probably working on either DLC or the next title as we speak, even if just at the writing and idea stage Also if we get to fight legacy AC bosses, man. Just got a model kit for Nineball Seraph and it makes me really want to see it in game again
Absolutely, I'm sure they're also using Nightreign as a way to gauge interest before investing in a similar project. How's that Nine-Ball Seraph model? Been thinking about getting it myself.
@ the model is only about half-built so far, but it’s a looker. Being a kotobukiya kit and not bandai, it needs some glue, but nothing crazy. Trying to avoid using it when I can as I plan to at least partially take it apart to paint whenever I can find a decent airbrush compressor. The bare plastic looks good, best molded gold I’ve seen, but some of the red has a bit if a swirl to it. No handheld weapons, but that is as advertised on the box
That's what I figure as well. Usually when studios for movies/games know something will be a big hit they start on more content even before the initial thing comes out. I think ac6 was one of the riskier things that fromsoft has done, given that the mecha game market had been pretty much dead for several years, so they didn't put much into further plans beyond making the game as good as they could.
I am optimistic about Nightreign and the opportunities it can bring to renew the gameplay and I am also optimistic about the future of armored core, all that remains is to wait... until now zekiro, elden ring, AC6 were all quality material it is all a question of patience.
Dude, YES!. If this thing works, we could have Sekiro Parry as a default in the next game. We could have a better mechanic for WA/AoA. While I love the grounded nature of Souls games, They go too hard when is anime as fuck. Having a Rougue Like as a way to test shit is super clever!
What has impressed me the most is how fast they now have another game using Elden Ring as a base, to me this is a good sign because new Armored Core games using AC6 as a baseline may come out faster (similar to how it was years ago with each iteration of the AC games).
Though I am happy that FROM is trying something new with the Souls Formula and it could lead to some new mixups for AC such as Roguelike and Co-Op based gameplay, I just want one thing right now until the next official entry.... MOAR PARTS! Just some new parts for the time being, we need some at least one new frame and a couple new weapons.
Dude I would flip out if all of a sudden after thrashing a bunch of enemies and the screen goes black and I hear Those who wield too much power Those who only bring chaos They are simply not part of the program…
Honestly as someone who had a blast playing the elden ring seamless co-op mod, I'm really hyped for Nightreign. Looking forward to getting squad wiped by the nameless king with my friends lmao As for the lack of armored core news I seriously doubt fromsoft is gonna abandon armored core after how much of a success AC6 was. Honestly it seems to be most likely that the AC6 DLC will get announced in early 2025, just as SoTE was announced in early 2024.
My thoughts exactly when I saw the Nameless King in the trailer lol. Agreed, wouldn't have made sense for them to announce both projects at the Game Awards. SoTE was first announced out of the blue with no warning, so they might do the same with AC6 DLC.
@dsaBOSS I agree. I think the co-op mod for AC6 really highlights what a missed opportunity it was for the game not to feature it along with invasions.
As someone who was introduced to souls and armored core through Elden ring I don’t get why people believe a company can have two franchises going on at the same time. I feel like Nightreign is a quick spinoff they made for the dedicated souls fans while working on hopefully more Armored core content. And while I would love for them to give us new missions or some wave defense coop I’m kind of just hoping they will give us those secret level parts, I need those Balam reverse joints and Shrieker arms!
Seriously, imagine if Capcom fans thought the same way about Resident Evil and Street Fighter not being able to coexist. Every company has their iconic series, except in this case it's Dark Souls and Armored Core. I need those Secret Level parts! Those heavy tetrapod legs also looked nuts.
Bro enemies and bosses from the previous games were fun. Basically a Armored Core Nexus Disc Two situation is what your hoping for with the return of old bosses and iconic missions. In my opinion they would have to redesign old models from the previous games to work with there current set up, and that would be interesting to see how they reimagine old ac's to 6th gen. Your not wrong there's allot they can do with the ip, I just hope people are still willing to give it a shot.
4:57 I see an issue with this idea. There is a vast disparity in the capabilities of AC's throughout the generations. For example, any ACFA boss could realistically wipe the floor with any AC from both past and future generations. In the same vein, bosses from older generations would fall behind the capabilities of modern AC's such as 4th or 6th gen. That's not to mention how differently AC's are constructed and operated across generations. Primal Armor is only a thing in 4th gen, and the stagger mechanic is exclusive to 6th gen. While it would be very entertaining, it would take a lot of work to implement, both on the balance front and the graphics front. I don't know about you, but seeing a 6th gen AC fight a boss made to comply with the "mind-boggling" graphics of the PS1 doesn't exactly sound immersive. It's a great idea, don't get me wrong, but it's very much easier said than done.
Valid points and I can see them mitigating this by having players use ACs from a specific generation to go up against said enemies to comply with these mechanics. Of course the bosses and enemies of old would need to be updated. Then again, Verdict Day literally had us face a NEXT that is far superior to the ACs we pilot and even Nine-ball Seraph at the time was more advanced than anything the player had access to. Depends how much they want players to struggle.
Counter point, AC:VD had you fight what was effectively an edgy white glint stand in for the final boss in what is canonically the weakest variant of an AC that we've used. Sure the final boss was an ancient machine by the time the game takes place and it probably wasn't fully functional but that doesn't change the fact that it was basically "nuclear bomb vs walking trashcan" and we still beat it. Normals are also present in 4th gen being the equivalent to gen 1-3 ACs, and while we can destroy them in a few shots in a NEXT I don't think it's far fetched for an AC protagonist to pull off something like beating a NEXT in a normal since doing what everyone else views as impossible by any average pilot is kinda the protagonists mo in this series.
absolutely true… i lived all the acchistory since ps1…. this is truly a new era… thanks to the great success of souls games… (that i love at the same time with ac) cuz guys….. u have to love great games made from fromsoft…. no matter what… they are great. so be positive! 💪🏻
A roguelike with coop elements sounds a lot more adaptable to an armored core title than souls, fromsoft made it as an elden ring spinoff probably because they examined their current capabilities and found it's easier to cobble a world together with souls asset than AC assets They know what they are doing
The extraction shooter-esque format could actually work really well for an AC game Even the set in stone hero shooter abilities tacked on top of the gameplay systems would fit if they don't tie them to specific appearances/parts and just have them as an invisible build foundation
Frame Gride 2. This is the answer. I'm sure what "oddies" can mean references on successfull franchises what we're successful but for unknown reason don't get their sequels. Imagine being Tarnished and found old damaged Knight Frame from Frame Gride or get one as ruler being supplied with nevest inventions? It's could really fit in setting without ruining lore - magic mecha can be logically possible in Elden Ring, it's just don't invented yet.
Now I can picture them throwing in a random AC boss fight in Nightreign where Tarnished have to use a Frame Gride to survive. Doesn't have to make sense lore wise, this is basically a parallel universe lol.
I would love a "Raven Nest's" or "All Mind backlogs" game where we play the data logs of previous Ravens or previous bosses as a Training simulation. This would be fun. Learning why y'all fear 9 ball like we doNameless King in a Elden Ring Game and started having PTSD kinda of Fun
Can Make it that everyone starts with a basic set up in each mission has a different event sometimes it could be the same mission but with different enemies forcing you to change your build and strategy
Exactly this. The main format fromsoft has been pushing in AC6 has been 3v3. The Nightreign ver of Elden Ring seems to point out that Armored Core will move onto 3v3 co op. Miyazaki & the team is very aware of all the mods goin on. The mecha rennaisance is here, like you said. Fromsoft KNOWS they will need to keep up and innovate or fall behind. Itll happen, we just gotta wait
All I wished for a new AC content is either co-op, new DLC or more parts, or just a new game. Creating something similar to nightreign for AC would feel weird due to each of the previous title's uniqueness so I hope that one didn't happen
A take on "Nightrein but in AC" sounds fucking awesome with a little tweaking, would make tons of sense for AC aswell considering it could be framed as a job for a trio of mercs Altough for AC6 im kind of just hoping for a bit more coop and some new parts, nothing too insane
You’re so right! FS has known they have some work to do on the netcode (literally Striker bring it up all the time). Perhaps this is their chance to hone and perfect seamless co-op the FS way, and what better story to package that testing ground in than Elden Ring, their best-selling title to date. I imagine the 3-day cycles in Nightreign will play out like a longer Armored Core mission.
I personally am looking forward to playing Nightreign mostly because it's co-op, and I was originally a Dark Souls guy. Maybe I should play the Gundam games while I'm waiting. Does anyone know any good Gundam Console games? Alright, now we just have to wait for a Bloodborne 2.
There are really only 2 choice now for Gundam games. Either it's Gundam breaker 4 for a action loot farming game, or Gundam battle operation 2 for a gacha pvp game.
You only spoke the truth 4:37 If they can do this with Elden... Why not with Armored Core? And honestly, I really want it to happen Can you imagine taking down Armored Core bosses with 3 PVE players? I really want it to happen Not only that, but they could also bring bosses from the other 5 games It would be really good 👍
Them being able to choose enemies/bosses from 15 other titles can really make it a challenging and fun experience for players. *Nineball comes back to traumatize a whole new generation of Ravens.* 👀
Im hoping that fromsoft takes note of armored core suscess and ports their older games to modern platforms, they have so many games that are just unplayable without emulation
Veteran AC fans should still remain as vocal as possible so that the soul of previous games isnt completely lost to appease the masses (i:e Elder Scrolls, Zelda, etc). I'm not an Ac Vet but i can understand why turning speed SHOULD be a thing, for example. 5:05 OG ACs would also be dope. Finishing off a 2 stage boss only for 9-Ball to show up would be a fkin trip
Turning speed is a touchy subject, it has pros and cons. Personally I couldn't stand how it made certain leg types obsolete like Reverse Joints in For Answer until they buffed them very late in the game's lifespan.
I'm interested in seeing wut nightriegn is about as I like co op team pve games I can't wait to do co op in armoured core be great with a wave defence mode or something like halo firefight I love modes like that
I feel like a Nightrein style AC6 would be fun, but there's the issue of movement difference and enemy scaling in previous AC games should we mash all these gens in one game. Going up against J or an Arms Fort from AC 4 against a 6th gen AC would be suicide imo. Maybe they could re-do what AC5 had with co-op, just a little more thought put into it and players should have the option of being solo or co-op for AC 6.5 and forward.
Yes, I already see it. The game starts, and here they stand: I am John Armoredcore Dude on the left - White Glint Dude on the right G1 Michigan "Attack! Get in there, you maggots!"
I agree that Nightreign is a step forward to a better and new AC game or DLC Imagine if they give us an Armored Core version of Nightreign Let Fromsoftware Cook
100% Armored Core revitalize the Mech genre, you can easily see it from Titan Fall 2's getting online play back and running after the second week of AC6's release. (And yes the Titanfall players didn't care saying thanks to AC6 for forcing EA's hand.)
Im so hoping that it doesn't get ignored like titainfall I was an OG pilot there and ive been starved for pills for ages and just internalized its not gonna happen and got a new mecha game to suplement with. I really hope that AC gets more.
Yeah im not worried about the AC franchise. The guy who made Sekiro's combat is the director and they made it very clear they intend to make more Armored Core. They know it will take time to build a larger fanbase. It was as successful as it needed to be.
I'm literally not playing anymore until they fix the basho core bug, and give us new parts. That could probably be years from now since they got other projects that take priority.
Armored Core is the passion project; Elden Ring the international cash cow. Let them milk a bit and then you will have a Keanu AC7 with every feature and the kitchen sink
I'm aware that without Hidetaka Miyazaki, From Soft wouldn't be nearly as well known and successful outside of Japan, but everything I like about From Soft was there before him. The only positive thing he brought from my point of view is that the games are technically cleaner. Apart from that, I hate him because I now need to have the reflexes of a fly for every one of their games. That's maybe OK for one of their series, but the fact that it's becoming the gimmick of every game tires me out.
Honestly a co op roguelike would fit armored core more than soulsborne
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I love the Secret Level episode. Watched it multiple times. I hope AC get's some more mainstream attention. I need more AC games. Perhaps a good DLC for AC6 first. And then a follow up in the AC6 universe. And I want some coop real bad. But your idea of fighting ACs from older AC games, not so much. Those are actually different "universes". And competing against a NEXT from ACFA woth your AC6 AC would be impossible anyway.
I'm sure we'll get more AC in due time. You might reconsider my speculation. I'm aware they're all in different timelines/universes but so is Dark Souls and Elden Ring and look what they're doing, so that wouldn't stop FROM. Also, how quickly we forget that players faced a NEXT in ACVD with a weaker generation of ACs and way before that we fought Nine-Ball Seraph, which was comparable to a NEXT at the time. Facing insurmountable odds has always been a theme, so anything is possible.
4:30 I make your words mine, a game where there are alternatives in missions, not having a cooperative with others (mercenaries) that, incredibly, has a lot of allied NPCs but we can't play with other players!? FromSoftware gets everything right but in multiplayer it makes too many mistakes, especially with the servers that keep going down... Bloodborne is living proof of that.
Don't want to discourage you but the reason they are using ds bosses in nightrien is because they can just reuse the assets... I doubt they would with ac because they would have to re do the models to fit they're modern graphics and probably have to redo all the code because of how modern ac changed compared to old ac
Personally I still thing AC got robbed of a DLC by Elden Ring, who just got a DLC not even half a year ago and now they are getting another. The long they take the less receptive people will get to it and the less interest people will get. With more good games slated to come out next year interest will fall even further. AC had had co-op in the past, it's not really that new to the series. While it's neat that Elden Ring getting a new DLC, i just get the feeling that AC just got thrown back into the dust bin to rot for several more years, regardless if it got a Secret Level episode or not. If they won't either make a DLC or a new one in the future until people feel starved like when AC came out (which looks opportunistic when you look back on it) then we have another several years before there's at least a hint before anything new from FS regarding AC comes out. I know better than to get my hope up when it comes to a gaming company.
2:16 like what ? There's like 3 mech action games in development that are barely worth any attention, 2 of them are going to be PvP money milkers. And one of them already was in development hell well before AC6 got released.
Vc so falou verdades 4:37 Se eles podem fazee isso com elden...Pq nao com armored core? E sinceramente eu quero muito que aconteça Ja imaginou derrubar chefes do armored core com 3 players PVE queto muito que aconteca Nao so isso como poderia trazer chefes dos outros 5 jogos Ia ser muito bom 👍
Good god no you are not alone coop the shit outa AC6, just incase you don't know the same guy that made elden ring seamless coop mod has done it with AC6 work decently, think it's made by Yui, but check it out on Nexus mods, it's up to 5 players co-op and has invasion to, it's in beta and I have came across a few issues, like low FPS on a certain mission, desynic if the host dies but can be avoided, Oh hear id like to take on 9 ball I know he's infamous in the AC lore. But if you didn't know check out the mod.
Personally, i am not hopeful for either AC or Souls game from Fromsoft movint forward, both have become kinda just cruddy 3rd person shooters that does all the aiming for you. Also i do believe their is a harsh divide between the souls and AC fanbase, seen all kinds of comments from AC players that Souls players ruined their games.
I don't entirely agree with that as those changes were to make the games more user friendly. Hard lock in AC6 being the exception. Can't please everyone.
@dsaBOSS idk, it would make things alot healthier in both games if projectiles had to be aimed for the bare minimum requirement of controlling LOOKING at the bad guys to shoot them, especially for pvp. Alot of builds wouldn't just devolve to just copy paste as much by making that a requirement. Take some melee attacks in the souls where it's better to free aim, for example, raises skill gap and can give you an edge, forcing people to control their attacks is healthier for games in general.
@@dsaBOSS It was a necessary adjustment because 6th gen was going to be the first game in the IP with an orbit camera- you weren't controlling like a tank anymore and didn't have to physically turn to look from side to side.
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Come to think of it, Nightreign seems like a perfect testing ground for a co-op centric AC campaign
This gants me hope
Why do you need to test co-op in a different genre of game to implement it in another? Co-op is a thing that exists in gaming and is well understood.
@@sciphan To probably see how well received it will be. In hindsight, they played it very safe with AC6 having a straightforward single player and a traditional pvp mode. Changing things up like they are in Nightreign is a risk and it's better to test the waters before going on the deep end. Very common business practice in the industry.
@dsaBOSS C'mon man. Do we really need to test co-op in a completely different style of game to know how it would be received in a franchise where the existing fanbase has been screaming for it for 20 years? BTW, yes, Armored Core has a pre-existing fanbase that has nothing to do with Souls.
Were definitely getting more armored core but I think they have to get this Elden ring bs out of the way first I doubt it’s connected to AC in any way
Keep this in mind. They said Armored Core 6 was the game they distilled their game making experience into. There will be a pollination effect eventually.
True, this approach is what allows them to polish future installments.
Sometimes I still can't believe how they managed to keep AC6 a true Armored Core game while still able to sprinkle a little bit of souls elements into it.
@@botarc I think the only mechanic they need to get rid of is the stagger system
@@alb.88 the stagger system is not perfect but personally I think it's fine. I understand if some people didn't like it but it makes the combat feels more dynamic.
@botarc maybe I can understand it if it's left in the campaign but it definitely needs to get removed for PvP
People seeing Shade Silhouette: "is that White Glint?"
Or Nine-Ball. Pretty much the usual suspects.
@ 9ball is unique though. I don't think he's been repeated outside of the 5th series with the Reaper Squad. (I'm not counting AllMind because not red but Ayre COULD be H0)
White Glint on the other hand was based on Silhouette or rather it became its antithesis. I mean the name is Haze (Fog Shadow) so there's more things attached to him.
What really irks me was nothing armored core being talked about RIGHT AFTER the secret level episode...
Right? Warhammer 40k really capitalized on Secret Level. I was expecting the same from AC, but that doesn't mean we won't get anything.
Imagine getting to fight the original "Patches"
If only we'd be so lucky. 😉
An AC textured into an old stone automatron, with Carian glintstone weaponry instead of plasma/energy.
They could make it fit.
Like an abductor virgin on steroids 😂
I have my favorite AC games on roms and I haven't stopped playing AC6. If being a AC fan for 20+ years has taught me anything is patience and appreciation for what i have.
Good things happen to those who wait.
I mean, it’s been a decade since the last AC game and they have to gauge the popularity before dumping another load of money on a new game. AC6 came out just over a year ago and did super well. We’re getting more Armored Core and soon. They’re probably working on either DLC or the next title as we speak, even if just at the writing and idea stage
Also if we get to fight legacy AC bosses, man. Just got a model kit for Nineball Seraph and it makes me really want to see it in game again
Absolutely, I'm sure they're also using Nightreign as a way to gauge interest before investing in a similar project.
How's that Nine-Ball Seraph model? Been thinking about getting it myself.
@ the model is only about half-built so far, but it’s a looker. Being a kotobukiya kit and not bandai, it needs some glue, but nothing crazy. Trying to avoid using it when I can as I plan to at least partially take it apart to paint whenever I can find a decent airbrush compressor. The bare plastic looks good, best molded gold I’ve seen, but some of the red has a bit if a swirl to it. No handheld weapons, but that is as advertised on the box
Hopium
That's what I figure as well. Usually when studios for movies/games know something will be a big hit they start on more content even before the initial thing comes out.
I think ac6 was one of the riskier things that fromsoft has done, given that the mecha game market had been pretty much dead for several years, so they didn't put much into further plans beyond making the game as good as they could.
My only issue is that Elden Ring came out not long ago and now has 2 DLC and AC doesn't even have a whisper.
I am optimistic about Nightreign and the opportunities it can bring to renew the gameplay and I am also optimistic about the future of armored core, all that remains is to wait... until now zekiro, elden ring, AC6 were all quality material it is all a question of patience.
Dude, YES!.
If this thing works, we could have Sekiro Parry as a default in the next game. We could have a better mechanic for WA/AoA. While I love the grounded nature of Souls games, They go too hard when is anime as fuck.
Having a Rougue Like as a way to test shit is super clever!
What has impressed me the most is how fast they now have another game using Elden Ring as a base, to me this is a good sign because new Armored Core games using AC6 as a baseline may come out faster (similar to how it was years ago with each iteration of the AC games).
That did surprise me too. At this point a new AC game that takes less than a decade to release would be impressive lol.
I brought AC:4A a month before AC6 was announced. So when it was announced it felt like i summoned it into being
You too huh.
I sold my copy of AC:4A a month before AC6
Must have felt amazing lol
Though I am happy that FROM is trying something new with the Souls Formula and it could lead to some new mixups for AC such as Roguelike and Co-Op based gameplay, I just want one thing right now until the next official entry.... MOAR PARTS! Just some new parts for the time being, we need some at least one new frame and a couple new weapons.
Dude I would flip out if all of a sudden after thrashing a bunch of enemies and the screen goes black and I hear
Those who wield too much power
Those who only bring chaos
They are simply not part of the program…
Then the music starts playing and that's when everyone realizes what they're in for.
5:03 oh boy the pulverizers and the ravens nest hq parkour room.
The sinking "boat" in AC3
Honestly as someone who had a blast playing the elden ring seamless co-op mod, I'm really hyped for Nightreign. Looking forward to getting squad wiped by the nameless king with my friends lmao
As for the lack of armored core news I seriously doubt fromsoft is gonna abandon armored core after how much of a success AC6 was. Honestly it seems to be most likely that the AC6 DLC will get announced in early 2025, just as SoTE was announced in early 2024.
My thoughts exactly when I saw the Nameless King in the trailer lol.
Agreed, wouldn't have made sense for them to announce both projects at the Game Awards. SoTE was first announced out of the blue with no warning, so they might do the same with AC6 DLC.
Armored core has had co-op before. 4answer had official co-op
Yes, that's why I miss it. 😞
@dsaBOSS I agree. I think the co-op mod for AC6 really highlights what a missed opportunity it was for the game not to feature it along with invasions.
also VD with their "raids"
As someone who was introduced to souls and armored core through Elden ring I don’t get why people believe a company can have two franchises going on at the same time. I feel like Nightreign is a quick spinoff they made for the dedicated souls fans while working on hopefully more Armored core content.
And while I would love for them to give us new missions or some wave defense coop I’m kind of just hoping they will give us those secret level parts, I need those Balam reverse joints and Shrieker arms!
Seriously, imagine if Capcom fans thought the same way about Resident Evil and Street Fighter not being able to coexist. Every company has their iconic series, except in this case it's Dark Souls and Armored Core.
I need those Secret Level parts! Those heavy tetrapod legs also looked nuts.
@@dsaBOSS Aren't those heavy tetrapod legs from the tetrapod MT?
@@jeanclaudethedarklord6205 Not from what I can tell. They have a lot more armor plating. Kinda reminds me of something out of fifth gen.
Bro enemies and bosses from the previous games were fun. Basically a Armored Core Nexus Disc Two situation is what your hoping for with the return of old bosses and iconic missions. In my opinion they would have to redesign old models from the previous games to work with there current set up, and that would be interesting to see how they reimagine old ac's to 6th gen. Your not wrong there's allot they can do with the ip, I just hope people are still willing to give it a shot.
Something similar at least. Where there's a will, there's a way.
God forbid someone strap VOB on Radhan
Nah, his horse would be equipped with VOB. 🤣
All i need is a Nineball boss with hos theme song and im good to go lol
*DESTROY. NINEBALL.*
4:57 I see an issue with this idea. There is a vast disparity in the capabilities of AC's throughout the generations. For example, any ACFA boss could realistically wipe the floor with any AC from both past and future generations. In the same vein, bosses from older generations would fall behind the capabilities of modern AC's such as 4th or 6th gen. That's not to mention how differently AC's are constructed and operated across generations. Primal Armor is only a thing in 4th gen, and the stagger mechanic is exclusive to 6th gen. While it would be very entertaining, it would take a lot of work to implement, both on the balance front and the graphics front. I don't know about you, but seeing a 6th gen AC fight a boss made to comply with the "mind-boggling" graphics of the PS1 doesn't exactly sound immersive. It's a great idea, don't get me wrong, but it's very much easier said than done.
Valid points and I can see them mitigating this by having players use ACs from a specific generation to go up against said enemies to comply with these mechanics. Of course the bosses and enemies of old would need to be updated.
Then again, Verdict Day literally had us face a NEXT that is far superior to the ACs we pilot and even Nine-ball Seraph at the time was more advanced than anything the player had access to. Depends how much they want players to struggle.
Counter point, AC:VD had you fight what was effectively an edgy white glint stand in for the final boss in what is canonically the weakest variant of an AC that we've used. Sure the final boss was an ancient machine by the time the game takes place and it probably wasn't fully functional but that doesn't change the fact that it was basically "nuclear bomb vs walking trashcan" and we still beat it. Normals are also present in 4th gen being the equivalent to gen 1-3 ACs, and while we can destroy them in a few shots in a NEXT I don't think it's far fetched for an AC protagonist to pull off something like beating a NEXT in a normal since doing what everyone else views as impossible by any average pilot is kinda the protagonists mo in this series.
Im sure fromsoft preparing surprise for armored core fans
sure with their extra 200 non existing employees 😂
Nahh nothing to expect before 2026.
@BaBaNaNaBa i hate sceptical people like you
this is just massive cope, we're cooked
absolutely true… i lived all the acchistory since ps1…. this is truly a new era… thanks to the great success of souls games… (that i love at the same time with ac) cuz guys….. u have to love great games made from fromsoft…. no matter what… they are great. so be positive! 💪🏻
FROM has been going strong and Elden Ring proved they can really be ambitious with their games.
A roguelike with coop elements sounds a lot more adaptable to an armored core title than souls, fromsoft made it as an elden ring spinoff probably because they examined their current capabilities and found it's easier to cobble a world together with souls asset than AC assets
They know what they are doing
The extraction shooter-esque format could actually work really well for an AC game
Even the set in stone hero shooter abilities tacked on top of the gameplay systems would fit if they don't tie them to specific appearances/parts and just have them as an invisible build foundation
Frame Gride 2. This is the answer. I'm sure what "oddies" can mean references on successfull franchises what we're successful but for unknown reason don't get their sequels.
Imagine being Tarnished and found old damaged Knight Frame from Frame Gride or get one as ruler being supplied with nevest inventions? It's could really fit in setting without ruining lore - magic mecha can be logically possible in Elden Ring, it's just don't invented yet.
Now I can picture them throwing in a random AC boss fight in Nightreign where Tarnished have to use a Frame Gride to survive. Doesn't have to make sense lore wise, this is basically a parallel universe lol.
I would love a "Raven Nest's" or "All Mind backlogs" game where we play the data logs of previous Ravens or previous bosses as a Training simulation. This would be fun. Learning why y'all fear 9 ball like we doNameless King in a Elden Ring Game and started having PTSD kinda of Fun
Sounds like a contrast to Nine Breaker. Instead of focusing solely on PvP, it would be about single player missions.
Can Make it that everyone starts with a basic set up in each mission has a different event sometimes it could be the same mission but with different enemies forcing you to change your build and strategy
Exactly this. The main format fromsoft has been pushing in AC6 has been 3v3. The Nightreign ver of Elden Ring seems to point out that Armored Core will move onto 3v3 co op. Miyazaki & the team is very aware of all the mods goin on. The mecha rennaisance is here, like you said. Fromsoft KNOWS they will need to keep up and innovate or fall behind. Itll happen, we just gotta wait
armored core was SUCH A GOOD GAME👌🏽it deserves a DLC we should be able to play as the OG Raven to flush out what he was doing and his motivation
All I wished for a new AC content is either co-op, new DLC or more parts, or just a new game. Creating something similar to nightreign for AC would feel weird due to each of the previous title's uniqueness so I hope that one didn't happen
A take on "Nightrein but in AC" sounds fucking awesome with a little tweaking, would make tons of sense for AC aswell considering it could be framed as a job for a trio of mercs
Altough for AC6 im kind of just hoping for a bit more coop and some new parts, nothing too insane
That's what I'm saying. Great way to cater to both new and old gen AC fans.
All fun n games till they put multiple nineball units deploying from one big arms fort
Then everyone screams in PTSD
I would LOVE coop Armored Core, get on it From
Probably would try that if Nightreign is an success
You’re so right! FS has known they have some work to do on the netcode (literally Striker bring it up all the time). Perhaps this is their chance to hone and perfect seamless co-op the FS way, and what better story to package that testing ground in than Elden Ring, their best-selling title to date. I imagine the 3-day cycles in Nightreign will play out like a longer Armored Core mission.
LET ME FIGHT WHITE GLINT WITH MY GEN 6 AC, I DONT CARE HOW MUCH FASTER HE'LL BE THAN ME
I personally am looking forward to playing Nightreign mostly because it's co-op, and I was originally a Dark Souls guy. Maybe I should play the Gundam games while I'm waiting. Does anyone know any good Gundam Console games?
Alright, now we just have to wait for a Bloodborne 2.
If you also like fighting games, you'll probably enjoy the Gundam Battle Assault series. Miss those games.
There are really only 2 choice now for Gundam games. Either it's Gundam breaker 4 for a action loot farming game, or Gundam battle operation 2 for a gacha pvp game.
You only spoke the truth 4:37
If they can do this with Elden... Why not with Armored Core?
And honestly, I really want it to happen
Can you imagine taking down Armored Core bosses with 3 PVE players? I really want it to happen
Not only that, but they could also bring bosses from the other 5 games
It would be really good 👍
Them being able to choose enemies/bosses from 15 other titles can really make it a challenging and fun experience for players. *Nineball comes back to traumatize a whole new generation of Ravens.* 👀
Im hoping that fromsoft takes note of armored core suscess and ports their older games to modern platforms, they have so many games that are just unplayable without emulation
Veteran AC fans should still remain as vocal as possible so that the soul of previous games isnt completely lost to appease the masses (i:e Elder Scrolls, Zelda, etc). I'm not an Ac Vet but i can understand why turning speed SHOULD be a thing, for example.
5:05 OG ACs would also be dope. Finishing off a 2 stage boss only for 9-Ball to show up would be a fkin trip
Turning speed is a touchy subject, it has pros and cons. Personally I couldn't stand how it made certain leg types obsolete like Reverse Joints in For Answer until they buffed them very late in the game's lifespan.
I'm interested in seeing wut nightriegn is about as I like co op team pve games
I can't wait to do co op in armoured core be great with a wave defence mode or something like halo firefight I love modes like that
I would love to see co-op return in Armored Core.
For me, i want for Armored core 7 is to have OST's from armored core 5 verdict day... Basically want cosmos like OST...
There is this game I'm in the playtest for called War Robots Frontiers, and their testing range has elements borrowed from the AC6 testing arena
I feel like a Nightrein style AC6 would be fun, but there's the issue of movement difference and enemy scaling in previous AC games should we mash all these gens in one game. Going up against J or an Arms Fort from AC 4 against a 6th gen AC would be suicide imo. Maybe they could re-do what AC5 had with co-op, just a little more thought put into it and players should have the option of being solo or co-op for AC 6.5 and forward.
The REAL question is if we can get invincible rummy, nightfall raven or white glint (if the run is too good) as a boss for ER nightreign
I genuinly wish Fromsoft just throws everything out of the window and adds an AC fight in Nightreign
Yes, I already see it.
The game starts, and here they stand:
I am John Armoredcore
Dude on the left - White Glint
Dude on the right G1 Michigan "Attack! Get in there, you maggots!"
I agree that Nightreign is a step forward to a better and new AC game or DLC
Imagine if they give us an Armored Core version of Nightreign
Let Fromsoftware Cook
100% Armored Core revitalize the Mech genre, you can easily see it from Titan Fall 2's getting online play back and running after the second week of AC6's release. (And yes the Titanfall players didn't care saying thanks to AC6 for forcing EA's hand.)
Did that happen with Titanfall 2? Everyone I knew that played it gave up on a sequel, so I haven't heard much about it.
Rogue like armored core... sign me up . Ramdom weapons . Upgrades, engines , thrusters
I would LOVE another Armored core, BUT I'd also love to see re-masters or re-makes of the earlier games as well.
Updated remasters would be nice, there's just some hurdles with that given the different publishers involved with those older titles.
Enjoy the show, and don't forget to smile.
Im so hoping that it doesn't get ignored like titainfall I was an OG pilot there and ive been starved for pills for ages and just internalized its not gonna happen and got a new mecha game to suplement with. I really hope that AC gets more.
an open world armored core would be awesome
Yeah im not worried about the AC franchise. The guy who made Sekiro's combat is the director and they made it very clear they intend to make more Armored Core. They know it will take time to build a larger fanbase. It was as successful as it needed to be.
I'm literally not playing anymore until they fix the basho core bug, and give us new parts. That could probably be years from now since they got other projects that take priority.
Armored Core is the passion project; Elden Ring the international cash cow. Let them milk a bit and then you will have a Keanu AC7 with every feature and the kitchen sink
Don't put that Evil out in the world.
621 pull up a chair we're getting wasted
I'm aware that without Hidetaka Miyazaki, From Soft wouldn't be nearly as well known and successful outside of Japan, but everything I like about From Soft was there before him. The only positive thing he brought from my point of view is that the games are technically cleaner. Apart from that, I hate him because I now need to have the reflexes of a fly for every one of their games. That's maybe OK for one of their series, but the fact that it's becoming the gimmick of every game tires me out.
Honestly a co op roguelike would fit armored core more than soulsborne
I love the Secret Level episode. Watched it multiple times. I hope AC get's some more mainstream attention. I need more AC games. Perhaps a good DLC for AC6 first. And then a follow up in the AC6 universe. And I want some coop real bad. But your idea of fighting ACs from older AC games, not so much. Those are actually different "universes". And competing against a NEXT from ACFA woth your AC6 AC would be impossible anyway.
I'm sure we'll get more AC in due time. You might reconsider my speculation. I'm aware they're all in different timelines/universes but so is Dark Souls and Elden Ring and look what they're doing, so that wouldn't stop FROM.
Also, how quickly we forget that players faced a NEXT in ACVD with a weaker generation of ACs and way before that we fought Nine-Ball Seraph, which was comparable to a NEXT at the time. Facing insurmountable odds has always been a theme, so anything is possible.
Love the vids, just wish you were also on Xbox to spar with 😂❤️
Thank you, maybe FROM will consider making their games cross-platform eventually.
@dsaBOSS here's to hoping!!
Well, when youbput it that way. I say good, a testing ground for co-op in their games. Stability would be nice
Am I the only guy that loves AC PVP but, cares more about the story?
4:30 I make your words mine, a game where there are alternatives in missions, not having a cooperative with others (mercenaries) that, incredibly, has a lot of allied NPCs but we can't play with other players!? FromSoftware gets everything right but in multiplayer it makes too many mistakes, especially with the servers that keep going down... Bloodborne is living proof of that.
Tbh i don't really care about ER but my hopium tanks are as limitless as my patience i'll be waiting for AC
Don't want to discourage you but the reason they are using ds bosses in nightrien is because they can just reuse the assets... I doubt they would with ac because they would have to re do the models to fit they're modern graphics and probably have to redo all the code because of how modern ac changed compared to old ac
LET ME DO THE OLD KING ENDING FROM ACFA AGAIN WITH NEW GRAPHICS AND ALL!!
You'd love my video where I recreated Old King and broke 100 million. 💀
Imagine ... The White Glint. I won't say anything else
Dude miyazaki lied they were supposed to be done with elden ring ac6 was supposed to get a dlc
and clive is cool but I need my brawler girl if it's not tiffa it's josie at this point...
Really hoping we get Tifa in a later season.
@@dsaBOSS i just take a brake from tekken8 for now mi hopes where to high....im sad :(
"oMG muh amazon sewage"
"Omg elden ring OmG OMg"
"please make Armored souls please make want easy game"
Back to reddit non-gamer
If they don't do it, I'll just move on and wait for xenoblade ChroniclesX definitive edition to come out
Personally I still thing AC got robbed of a DLC by Elden Ring, who just got a DLC not even half a year ago and now they are getting another. The long they take the less receptive people will get to it and the less interest people will get. With more good games slated to come out next year interest will fall even further. AC had had co-op in the past, it's not really that new to the series. While it's neat that Elden Ring getting a new DLC, i just get the feeling that AC just got thrown back into the dust bin to rot for several more years, regardless if it got a Secret Level episode or not. If they won't either make a DLC or a new one in the future until people feel starved like when AC came out (which looks opportunistic when you look back on it) then we have another several years before there's at least a hint before anything new from FS regarding AC comes out. I know better than to get my hope up when it comes to a gaming company.
Nya, thank you!
i think they said its only gonna be like 40 bucks. That said, I can't wait where the secret boss if is FUCKING WHITE GLINT!?!
2:16 like what ?
There's like 3 mech action games in development that are barely worth any attention, 2 of them are going to be PvP money milkers.
And one of them already was in development hell well before AC6 got released.
Soulslike Formula Front
Why , WHY Miyazaki? What was the point of bringing back Armored Core and not use it, at all...
Vc so falou verdades 4:37
Se eles podem fazee isso com elden...Pq nao com armored core?
E sinceramente eu quero muito que aconteça
Ja imaginou derrubar chefes do armored core com 3 players PVE queto muito que aconteca
Nao so isso como poderia trazer chefes dos outros 5 jogos
Ia ser muito bom 👍
please god yes
Good god no you are not alone coop the shit outa AC6, just incase you don't know the same guy that made elden ring seamless coop mod has done it with AC6 work decently, think it's made by Yui, but check it out on Nexus mods, it's up to 5 players co-op and has invasion to, it's in beta and I have came across a few issues, like low FPS on a certain mission, desynic if the host dies but can be avoided, Oh hear id like to take on 9 ball I know he's infamous in the AC lore. But if you didn't know check out the mod.
I waited over 10 years just to get armored core and not even really a really true to form version of the game it's a massive disappointment for me...
ur point is invalid since you use double ear shots
Because night rein exists I now want an armored core co op rouge like.
anyone that watches game awards for anything you want are just a gullible
Personally, i am not hopeful for either AC or Souls game from Fromsoft movint forward, both have become kinda just cruddy 3rd person shooters that does all the aiming for you. Also i do believe their is a harsh divide between the souls and AC fanbase, seen all kinds of comments from AC players that Souls players ruined their games.
I don't entirely agree with that as those changes were to make the games more user friendly. Hard lock in AC6 being the exception. Can't please everyone.
@dsaBOSS idk, it would make things alot healthier in both games if projectiles had to be aimed for the bare minimum requirement of controlling LOOKING at the bad guys to shoot them, especially for pvp. Alot of builds wouldn't just devolve to just copy paste as much by making that a requirement. Take some melee attacks in the souls where it's better to free aim, for example, raises skill gap and can give you an edge, forcing people to control their attacks is healthier for games in general.
@@dsaBOSS It was a necessary adjustment because 6th gen was going to be the first game in the IP with an orbit camera- you weren't controlling like a tank anymore and didn't have to physically turn to look from side to side.
Sadly the moment that armored core becomes super mainstream is when it will turn gay with flags everywhere.
Bruh....... So true
its a fromsoftware game, if you play it, it means that you are already gay
@@dimagoloborodko6106_va I guess I was gay before it was cool. Been a Fromsoft fan since the 90s.
@@ChubbsMcgoo yes, because I never met a straight fromsoftware fan online or irl
@@dimagoloborodko6106_va that's because you live in current year full of blue haired poison frogs of society waving epilepsy inducing flags screeching how it's normal to mutilate minors.
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