so initially watched this video over 6 months ago. i looked and decided that a) my current space could not support a 7'/84"/220cm umbrella/reflector and b) not having the clients willing to pay for the product coming from such a reflector, i opted for the $55 6'/72"/180cm(ish) reflector and purchased a soft box diffuser for it for about another $20. i like what you did here, and you INFLUENCED my purchasing!!! lol
I subscribed because the trolls hate em... Remember kids, trollers and haters make people famous. Thank you trolls and thank you Michael for your wonderful video!
Keep on Talking Michael, the more you talk the better I understand, thank you much. Always wondered what a 7 foot umbrella could do, great presentation !
+Ade Tambunan When there's a lot of light throw on subject. Shadow doesn't appear. Speedlites are likely to make shadow behind subject but big strobe lights don;t
I use the Westcott 7' parabolic with 3 Nikon SB-910s zoomed back to 25mm on a Wescott Triple Threat bracket and the heads flared out to 45 degrees to fill the umbrella. I find I get a nice (close to) high key light even at 100 ISO at F8 and the speed lights at 1/4 to 1/8 power, but with the umbrella closer to the subject than your 15'. I like your idea though and will try it further back with the power boosted to 1/2 or even full if needed. I think I'll get away with 1/2 power.
fantastic vid!! explanation & diagrams are 👌🏼 thanks so much for this… i know it was done quite awhile back but still stands 💪🏼💪🏼today and very helpful, i got some solid info to work with - many thanks!
Thanks for the video Michael it answers a lot of questions that I had about the possibility of using a large parabolic like this with my Bowens Gemini 750 unit, it should work brilliantly and as soon as I have a shoot that needs a high contrast look like this I will be getting myself a Wescott silver 7'.
I just bought the westcott parabolic umbrella and was searching everywhere for other people's experience using it. I loved this video and how you explained your set up. Awesome job :) I would recommend putting the name Westcott Parabolic Umbrella somewhere in the name so when people search it - it will come to this.
+Michael Corsentino I can't believe some of these comments. I LOVE all of your videos and you are always very informative. I shoot for a living as my main source of income and I always learn something new. Thank you and keep it up brother!
I had a question.. The Paul C Buff PLM umbrella is on sale.. the 7ft one is going for $65 compared to the Westcott that is about $100 which would you recommend? Is their a diff in build quality or light quality? I mean.. it is a diff of only $35 so its not like the vast diff in price that you list in this video.. Which would you recommend?
+Brian Michael I would avoid the PLM umbrella. It is cumbersome to put together if you are using a regular umbrella bracket. If you are using PCB lights...they are okay. I would look at westcott, impact or cheetahstand version. They are a steadier build and feel. If you are looking for a deeper umbrella look up the Lastolite Mega Umbrella. its a 5ft one but its deeper. But honestly, its all of space. If you are in a small space look at the soft lighter II. Its awesome. If space is not a problem the 7 footers are awesome.
What is- the relative position - of the Camera to the Subject..? Is it between the Light Source and Subject, OR Paralell to / or slightly behind the Umbrella..?
With medium format f/16 is really like f/8. Moreover I like the increased depth of field and there are no distracting background elements to worry about.
So you get the White background to stay white by using boards instead of lights? But can you really balance the light on subject like that and maintain ideal light balance? I would imagine you need to move around the width of the boards and distance of the model from the wall. What size are the boards and how to keep them up . Vflats will do the same>
Thanks ou for sharing this ;-) QUESTION: What is the difference between using a reflective and a shoot-through umbrella? I know the shoot-through bounced the light more around - but is this only useful in rooms with neural colored walls? If I shoot if various rooms, would I be better off with a reflective umbrella? How large an umbrella would you suggest for brandings portraits in various settings where both the person and the environememnt (or at least part of it) should be lit? Thanks a lot in advance ;-)
Appreciate the video but on the diagram it shows a Profoto 7a pack Phase one body and Schneider lens. That's at least like 15 k or more worth of equipment. Not including the pocket wizards, backdrops or parabolic. I get your point and agree but I think using less expensive gear would have more solidified the message. Do it with a point and shoot, flash triggering a cheap brand light on slave mode then it would be a more defined message.
Sorry but in my opinion you're missing the point. I have no apologies to make regarding the equipment I use in my business. Moreover, the Westcott Parabolic is less than $100, couple that with an Alien Bee and you can create what I did. If thats too much production expense for you you really should consider a different career/hobby because at a certain point you need equipment to create specific results.
Really enjoyed the video and hope to put some of your ideas to test during my next shoot. Regarding your camera placement, are you standing between the model and light source or are you shooting via remote?
Dunno if you will read this since your video is already a year old, but it would have been way better to see you shooting the image and explain this in a live situation. This graphic was not very helpful, and it was very hard to follow if you have only theoretical speech.
It is pathetic to see how defensive you sound in all of your answers, youtube is a tool that is used to post VIDEOS, don't post a video showing nothing and say that people wanting to actually learn something needs to go to a workshop, because in that case we wouldn't be watching these free videos in a first place. Leaving.
Thanks for your feedback. My comment was tongue in cheek, sorry it fell flat for you. I've always found white board style presentations that explain the thought process behind what was done a lot more valuable than BTS style videos. Mine is a "teach a man to fish" approach, I'm sorry it doesn't resonate with you ;-)
1TheQuickstep Are you paying for those lessons? Your being rude, sir, He's sharing his technic FOR FREE, Don't like It? Go to a fucking school and pay for learn, idiot. At least shut the fuck Up and make your own vídeo. I just don't understand shit like you.
Inexpensive isn't the right term to use here a phase one with a digital back is a 30,000 dollar camera and the prophoto light is a 1200 dollar light come on now! Very useful diagram though but I don't think I get the same look if I was using say... clamp lights and a 60D
thought it was great. although i watch videos at 2x speed (in general. not specifically this video)} good content, good examples, good explanation and reasoning. perfect.
MGTOW Slim not exactly, cheap ones may deliver similar results but taking them on and off over times the cheap ones do not last as long as you wish. If you are in serious business you don’t wanna spend time on shopping for modifiers all you need is consistency for your clients. Those exp parabolics are not for everyone but they are in the market for reasons.
I'm not really sure what my camera has to do with anything? Cleary the equipment I've chosen to invest in makes sense for my business. The point of this video was to look at less expensive ways to create beautiful light. All I can do is convey how I work with tools and techniques I use in my work.
Again your missing the point! The Westcott Parabolic is less than $100, couple that with an Alien Bee and you can create what I did. If thats too much production expense for you you really should consider a different career/hobby.
It seems half of the viewers skipped the first two minutes of the video. Wish they would at least try the setup with what they owned before they complained. Anyone should come away with something if they watched the entire video.
6:23 he told "i need large modifier to cover man from top to bottom". Ha ha! And spot source of light can't cover this range? There are two ways: you can't explain what you actualy mean or you didn't understand it by yourself...
I think you have a very wrong idea what is high fashion photography to start with ... regardless the gear .. just the shooting in general .. just call it photoshoot on budget without ( HIGH END FASHION ) cause you ruining the name of the high fashion world like that .. cheers
"Creating a high-end look without a high-end budget". My whole life in a sentence.
so initially watched this video over 6 months ago. i looked and decided that a) my current space could not support a 7'/84"/220cm umbrella/reflector and b) not having the clients willing to pay for the product coming from such a reflector, i opted for the $55 6'/72"/180cm(ish) reflector and purchased a soft box diffuser for it for about another $20.
i like what you did here, and you INFLUENCED my purchasing!!! lol
I subscribed because the trolls hate em... Remember kids, trollers and haters make people famous. Thank you trolls and thank you Michael for your wonderful video!
I love your stuff ! I never get tired of your artistic look. Thanks for sharing
Keep on Talking Michael, the more you talk the better I understand, thank you much. Always wondered what a 7 foot umbrella could do, great presentation !
Thank you!
how did you shoot it and not showing up your shadow? because in the picture you shoot it in front of the umbrella.
+Ade Tambunan When there's a lot of light throw on subject. Shadow doesn't appear. Speedlites are likely to make shadow behind subject but big strobe lights don;t
+Ade Tambunan Great question! The source is large enough that the light simply wraps around me without any blocking shadow created.
I use the Westcott 7' parabolic with 3 Nikon SB-910s zoomed back to 25mm on a Wescott Triple Threat bracket and the heads flared out to 45 degrees to fill the umbrella. I find I get a nice (close to) high key light even at 100 ISO at F8 and the speed lights at 1/4 to 1/8 power, but with the umbrella closer to the subject than your 15'. I like your idea though and will try it further back with the power boosted to 1/2 or even full if needed. I think I'll get away with 1/2 power.
Thanks!
fantastic vid!! explanation & diagrams are 👌🏼
thanks so much for this… i know it was done quite awhile back but still stands 💪🏼💪🏼today and very helpful, i got some solid info to work with - many thanks!
Thanks a lot !! - Why f/14-16 ? ... is diffraction part of the look ("not too sharp"?!) ?
If your light is at focus point, parabolic mirror doesn't spread light but make it parallel.
Pretty nice overview and money perspective. Skills vs $$$ :) on point! :)
hi, is the light directly behind you or is it to side.
Thanks for the video Michael it answers a lot of questions that I had about the possibility of using a large parabolic like this with my Bowens Gemini 750 unit, it should work brilliantly and as soon as I have a shoot that needs a high contrast look like this I will be getting myself a Wescott silver 7'.
Thanks!
Great info, thanks!
Thank you!
Very Good tutorial...Very helpful
Nice and informative, no bs!!!
love this!! thanks so much
Thank you!
Thanks for the vid. Really complete explanation
what is the name of the insulation panels.
So do you recommend the large umbrella
Over a 38 inch octagon for full body shots
Every one of your videos are an exceptional source of info. Great work..!!!!!
Great tutorial, I've always wanted to achieve this look. Muchas gracias!
Fantastic tips
Thank you!
What Strobe light is used this video? Do you have any recommendations on inexpensive strobe light and stands? Thanks for the amazing video.
a profoto prohead i guess.
Profoto 2400W head but you don't need anywhere close to that power to achieve these looks.
I just bought the westcott parabolic umbrella and was searching everywhere for other people's experience using it. I loved this video and how you explained your set up. Awesome job :) I would recommend putting the name Westcott Parabolic Umbrella somewhere in the name so when people search it - it will come to this.
+Taby Cheng Thanks! Glad you found it helpful.
+Michael Corsentino I can't believe some of these comments. I LOVE all of your videos and you are always very informative. I shoot for a living as my main source of income and I always learn something new. Thank you and keep it up brother!
I had a question.. The Paul C Buff PLM umbrella is on sale.. the 7ft one is going for $65
compared to the Westcott that is about $100 which would you recommend?
Is their a diff in build quality or light quality? I mean.. it is a diff of only $35 so its not like the vast diff in price that you list in this video..
Which would you recommend?
+Brian Michael I can't speak to the PCB as I've never used it.
Michael Corsentino ok understood
hey man. ive got the pcb. worth it !
Jared Pierson I ended up picking up the Westcott one and it is HUGE haha and I love it.. Really really does the job
+Brian Michael I would avoid the PLM umbrella. It is cumbersome to put together if you are using a regular umbrella bracket. If you are using PCB lights...they are okay. I would look at westcott, impact or cheetahstand version. They are a steadier build and feel. If you are looking for a deeper umbrella look up the Lastolite Mega Umbrella. its a 5ft one but its deeper. But honestly, its all of space. If you are in a small space look at the soft lighter II. Its awesome. If space is not a problem the 7 footers are awesome.
What is- the relative position - of the Camera to the Subject..? Is it between the Light Source and Subject, OR Paralell to / or slightly behind the Umbrella..?
Great info Thanks - Question - why did you need to shoot at F16.
With medium format f/16 is really like f/8. Moreover I like the increased depth of field and there are no distracting background elements to worry about.
have you tried the white 7´umbrella ?
Great review, looking at the Paul C Buff 7' But loved the DIY stuff, might make trip to home depot' today
So you get the White background to stay white by using boards instead of lights? But can you really balance the light on subject like that and maintain ideal light balance? I would imagine you need to move around the width of the boards and distance of the model from the wall. What size are the boards and how to keep them up . Vflats will do the same>
Super
Can I get a 1 minute summary, please?
I use godox and is great for fashion photography
excellent explanation. Thank you.
I don't see a difference with the the "lightbox" shot vs non-lightbox? Supposedly the shot in the middle??
Thanks ou for sharing this ;-) QUESTION: What is the difference between using a reflective and a shoot-through umbrella? I know the shoot-through bounced the light more around - but is this only useful in rooms with neural colored walls? If I shoot if various rooms, would I be better off with a reflective umbrella? How large an umbrella would you suggest for brandings portraits in various settings where both the person and the environememnt (or at least part of it) should be lit? Thanks a lot in advance ;-)
Can I get the same effect with the godox sk300 at full power ?
Link to DIY Silver Cove?
Hi please help me understand, How manny watts are your flashes? 500 watts or more? I wish to achieve the same as you have with these pictures...
hes iusing a Profoto &a pack which can output 2400 watts. Depends on what metered when he shot this depends on the watt seconds used.
Appreciate the video but on the diagram it shows a Profoto 7a pack Phase one body and Schneider lens. That's at least like 15 k or more worth of equipment. Not including the pocket wizards, backdrops or parabolic. I get your point and agree but I think using less expensive gear would have more solidified the message. Do it with a point and shoot, flash triggering a cheap brand light on slave mode then it would be a more defined message.
Sorry but in my opinion you're missing the point. I have no apologies to make regarding the equipment I use in my business. Moreover, the Westcott Parabolic is less than $100, couple that with an Alien Bee and you can create what I did. If thats too much production expense for you you really should consider a different career/hobby because at a certain point you need equipment to create specific results.
would an octa 175cm will get the same effect?
Try it and see ;-)
Nice work
Really enjoyed the video and hope to put some of your ideas to test during my next shoot. Regarding your camera placement, are you standing between the model and light source or are you shooting via remote?
Standing between the source and the model. Thanks for your question.
I don't understand how If you are standing directly in front of the light, how do you not create a massive shadow on the model lol
Light wraps
Light is light but not all modifiers give the same look
Like like like
Thank you!
Dunno if you will read this since your video is already a year old, but it would have been way better to see you shooting the image and explain this in a live situation. This graphic was not very helpful, and it was very hard to follow if you have only theoretical speech.
Thats what workshops are for, come to Shutterfest 2017! ;-)
It is pathetic to see how defensive you sound in all of your answers, youtube is a tool that is used to post VIDEOS, don't post a video showing nothing and say that people wanting to actually learn something needs to go to a workshop, because in that case we wouldn't be watching these free videos in a first place. Leaving.
Thanks for your feedback. My comment was tongue in cheek, sorry it fell flat for you. I've always found white board style presentations that explain the thought process behind what was done a lot more valuable than BTS style videos. Mine is a "teach a man to fish" approach, I'm sorry it doesn't resonate with you ;-)
1TheQuickstep Are you paying for those lessons? Your being rude, sir, He's sharing his technic FOR FREE, Don't like It? Go to a fucking school and pay for learn, idiot. At least shut the fuck Up and make your own vídeo. I just don't understand shit like you.
Rubi kator stfu
Inexpensive isn't the right term to use here a phase one with a digital back is a 30,000 dollar camera and the prophoto light is a 1200 dollar light come on now! Very useful diagram though but I don't think I get the same look if I was using say... clamp lights and a 60D
Did you try it yet? You don't have to use clamp lights; rent or borrow if you have to. Get flash triggers and you're all set.
Too much talk about everything else.... Stay on point
Blah, blah, blah. Then change the channel.
Michael Corsentino lol you are one of the few that reply to trolls :D
thought it was great. although i watch videos at 2x speed (in general. not specifically this video)}
good content, good examples, good explanation and reasoning. perfect.
Thank you MHQL!
he just explained the core and reasons for everything. Its about lighting concepts, not just show how to do it.
The different results between cheap lighting gear and expensive lighting gear exists only in the imagination of the photographer.
MGTOW Slim not exactly, cheap ones may deliver similar results but taking them on and off over times the cheap ones do not last as long as you wish. If you are in serious business you don’t wanna spend time on shopping for modifiers all you need is consistency for your clients. Those exp parabolics are not for everyone but they are in the market for reasons.
@@Mainwong Thank you for your response my friend.
White pants on white background? I would have changed the color of one of these components.
Great video but your camera isn't anywhere close to most peoples budget
I'm not really sure what my camera has to do with anything? Cleary the equipment I've chosen to invest in makes sense for my business. The point of this video was to look at less expensive ways to create beautiful light. All I can do is convey how I work with tools and techniques I use in my work.
Production Costs Not Equipment Cots
Again your missing the point! The Westcott Parabolic is less than $100, couple that with an Alien Bee and you can create what I did. If thats too much production expense for you you really should consider a different career/hobby.
Michael Corsentino lol indeed.. some people want to do fashion photography with a cell phone and a Walmart unbrella it seems
It seems half of the viewers skipped the first two minutes of the video.
Wish they would at least try the setup with what they owned before they complained.
Anyone should come away with something if they watched the entire video.
He talks too much and repeats himself over and over.
He really appreciates your feedback ;-) He really appreciates your feedback ;-)
Thanks for noticing!
Thanks for noticing!
Tschännel your hilarious..I personally dont mind..instructors goal is to guide and as such corsentino is very helpful..
Would you like the video to be silent, would you like the video to be silent?
not high end enough for me.
6:23 he told "i need large modifier to cover man from top to bottom". Ha ha! And spot source of light can't cover this range? There are two ways: you can't explain what you actualy mean or you didn't understand it by yourself...
Sorry but the styling is all wrong for high end fashion. Especially the second look that is not high end fashion at all.
Sorry not sorry ;-)
I think you have a very wrong idea what is high fashion photography to start with ... regardless the gear .. just the shooting in general .. just call it photoshoot on budget without ( HIGH END FASHION ) cause you ruining the name of the high fashion
world like that .. cheers
Very dramatic, lovely. I'll be sure and run all future video names past you for approval ;-)
@@mcorsentino funny guy
ommmmm too much equipment and lame lame pictures..i can do so much better with only one speedlight
Yeah I bet you can xD
Good thats the point, go for it. Use it as fuel to create something better ;-)
Exactly! Thank you ad ;-)