Testing the flow on the AR45 roof pump with 1/2" & 5/8" hose. We also tested a different gun to get more foam for roof washing. #ar45gasroofpump #ar45roofpump
On that 5/8 hose if you roll the hose off the reel you should see another .5gpm...when the hose is bunched up on the reel it can expand out as much..on your yellow ag hose it isnt as critical because that stuff is so thick... Thanks for the test...i have 12v systems producing the same or more flow than the ar45 so this video gives a good benchmark comparison to refer to.
Do you have a problem of having to wait on your tank fill to catch up when you use the 10GPM ? In a lot of my jobs, it seems the house supply can barely keep up when I’m running a 5.5gpm.
From a lager volume machine say 8 gallons per minute and using a rated flow 7-10 gallon m5 then using on the same machine reduction to 3-7 gallons m5 twist cause’s turbulence from restrictions in hole sizing which creates more foaming action on the soap,
Reel is an 18” Titan the manifold in the reel is 1/2” but I jumped it up to 5/8” hose. I wanted the reel with the 1” manifold but they were on back order.
So if you're running your AR45 off of mixing valves and not a batch tank, where are you unloading the Soap, Water and SH too when you're not squeezing the trigger? I'm batching right now, just got some mixing valves and am curious to where your mixture is going when you're not squeezing da trigger.
The water, SH & soap stays in bypass mode with continuing circulation. When I am off the trigger, the mix just cycles through the pump. Hope this helps. Thanks
@@allproexteriorservicesllc5338 yea cause I was wondering if I could use that as a tool in addition to throttling down that could safely restrict flow somewhat for doing roofs for less runoff = less chem = less $
@@allproexteriorservicesllc5338 so it was just proven you get 25% more flow. So 25% less time to complete the job And you are going to use the 1/2” hose still? I’m at a loss to why ? Is it you don’t want to pay to get the proper hose for your company? In all reality. Saving 25% of your time. Is worth thousands per month in savings to me just in simple labour costs And you are sacrificing cranking the ar45 up beyond it proper psi operating range Blowing out your equipment faster. Using more fuel And losing shooting distance which makes for more work. More ladder work. More roof walking. With calculating the psi and gpm with a fluid dynamics calculator On 200ft of hose at 10gpm On 1/2” hose you lose 198.8 psi (all the psi an AR45 is made to properly produce) LOST On 5/8 hose you lose 47.1 psi. Much less and acceptable unless you want to save more using 3/4” hose That’s a loss of 151psi loss between 1/2 and 5/8 hose And that is not enough reason in itself to make the move to the .675 id hose ? Considering. According to AR USA head office. The AR45 is only meant to be run at 200psi maximum. Any more is why those people running 220 or 280 are having their machines blow seals left right and Center and blowing their machines up in short order
@@tylerhovdebo because for me 300' works in my favor. Sometimes more flow is always the answer. I just did the test because we had both systems available. Thanks
This is awesome! It's interesting to me on the different results between machines & wash guns! Thanks for sharing!
Agreed! Thanks
On that 5/8 hose if you roll the hose off the reel you should see another .5gpm...when the hose is bunched up on the reel it can expand out as much..on your yellow ag hose it isnt as critical because that stuff is so thick...
Thanks for the test...i have 12v systems producing the same or more flow than the ar45 so this video gives a good benchmark comparison to refer to.
Agreed on the hose expansion with the 5/8" hose. I may switch to 5/*" hose at some point, but I plan to use the 1/2" for now. Thanks
Which 12v system are you using that's pulling 10gpm?
Love these test videos
Thanks brother!!
Great demonstration of M5s, Red Gun and AR45….Thanks
Do you have a problem of having to wait on your tank fill to catch up when you use the 10GPM ? In a lot of my jobs, it seems the house supply can barely keep up when I’m running a 5.5gpm.
Every now & then we have to wait. But we do double feed the tank when we have to. Thanks
From a lager volume machine say 8 gallons per minute and using a rated flow 7-10 gallon m5 then using on the same machine reduction to 3-7 gallons m5 twist cause’s turbulence from restrictions in hole sizing which creates more foaming action on the soap,
Perfect results for roof washing!! Thanks
What ever works best use that method more clinging on the roof 👍
I get a little over 11gpm with 275’ of 5/8… I’m also feeding from the bottom of my tank on water and sh… I love your videos keep up the good work!
Great feedback!! What is the brand & size of your reel? Thanks
Reel is an 18” Titan the manifold in the reel is 1/2” but I jumped it up to 5/8” hose. I wanted the reel with the 1” manifold but they were on back order.
@@rickybusby6123 Thanks!! I was wondering if 250' 5/8" hose will fit on my 18" Hannay reel.
Absolutely. 300’ of FlexTech 5/8 on my 18” Hannay
@@jimbrown5800 Jim, thanks for the info!! Much appreciated!!
So if you're running your AR45 off of mixing valves and not a batch tank, where are you unloading the Soap, Water and SH too when you're not squeezing the trigger? I'm batching right now, just got some mixing valves and am curious to where your mixture is going when you're not squeezing da trigger.
The water, SH & soap stays in bypass mode with continuing circulation. When I am off the trigger, the mix just cycles through the pump. Hope this helps. Thanks
@@allproexteriorservicesllc5338 it did help. I realized that I forgot about the 25’ bypass loop. That’s why I was confused
Love the knowledge! Where did you guys get your blend manifold?
I built it myself. Check out this video on the details. ruclips.net/video/lYiJj2TcJGc/видео.html
More great info Herb, Was all of the roof testing done with your buddies machine or did you switch it up?
It was my buddied machine. We were just shooting soap to see the patterns. Thanks
Are you washing houses with the AR now vs downstreaming?
Yes. Thanks
Great video as always keep up the good work buddy
Thanks Brother!!
You'll get better results and your pump will run more efficiently if you unroll all the hose off the reel
Probably so, but the Ag hose does not collapse easy. Thanks
Did you test flow on 3-7m5?
We did not. But will do a future video to test. Thanks
@@allproexteriorservicesllc5338 yea cause I was wondering if I could use that as a tool in addition to throttling down that could safely restrict flow somewhat for doing roofs for less runoff = less chem = less $
are you going to go with 5/8 or stick with 1/2” hose?
I think I will stick with 1/2" for now & upgrade later. Thanks
@@allproexteriorservicesllc5338 so it was just proven you get 25% more flow.
So 25% less time to complete the job
And you are going to use the 1/2” hose still?
I’m at a loss to why ?
Is it you don’t want to pay to get the proper hose for your company?
In all reality. Saving 25% of your time. Is worth thousands per month in savings to me just in simple labour costs
And you are sacrificing cranking the ar45 up beyond it proper psi operating range
Blowing out your equipment faster.
Using more fuel
And losing shooting distance which makes for more work. More ladder work. More roof walking.
With calculating the psi and gpm with a fluid dynamics calculator
On 200ft of hose at 10gpm
On 1/2” hose you lose 198.8 psi (all the psi an AR45 is made to properly produce) LOST
On 5/8 hose you lose 47.1 psi. Much less and acceptable unless you want to save more using 3/4” hose
That’s a loss of 151psi loss between 1/2 and 5/8 hose
And that is not enough reason in itself to make the move to the .675 id hose ?
Considering. According to AR USA head office. The AR45 is only meant to be run at 200psi maximum. Any more is why those people running 220 or 280 are having their machines blow seals left right and Center and blowing their machines up in short order
@@tylerhovdebo because for me 300' works in my favor. Sometimes more flow is always the answer. I just did the test because we had both systems available. Thanks