How to Test for Spinal Stenosis- 30 Second Test
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- How to Test for Spinal Stenosis- 30 Second Test
Bob and Brad demonstrate a 30 second self test to determine possible spinal stenosis. As well as 3 questions you may want to ask yourself to help determine.
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I'm 38 just got diagnosed with this. You said this is nothing that will prevent you from living life. I can tell u unless I'm taking serious meds I don't want to do anything but lay down. I'm also very fit so its not a weight issue.
That sucks man, sorry to hear that.
I am 37 and dealing with the same thing plus herniated disks how do you deal with the pain? Do you do stretching? Any exercises?
@@lau3979 Hope you are doing better if you are reading this now. I'm 35 and now needing surgery with severe central stenosis at L4-L5. Before mine became severe doing cardio was the one thing that gave me the biggest relief. I have tried everything including 3 steroid injections which have not helped the pain. I was in the same boat about 15 years ago when I was 20 & had a disc herniation at L5-S1. I failed all conventional treatments & only found relief after opting for surgery (microdiscectomy).
@@shawnh08 Hello Shawn i am sorry to hear that i am doing much better thanks! is just mild but i also have a mild stenosis, and has developed into some mild arthritis there they said god is painful, so CBD flowers tea has helped wonders! and glucosamine and other supplements but you know i am not sure why such young people have this issues :( i am trying to take care more about eating more greens and salads etc.. Yours was because an accident?
@@lau3979 I'm really not sure how I did it, maybe from playing sports. Do you know how you injured yours? I was also trying to eat healthier before my back really took a turn for the worst but I've just given up on that now lol. I think a better diet can really help control inflammation. You probably already take Curcumin (Turmeric) as one of your supplements but if not I think it's worth looking into.
Not debilitating? Oh yes it is!
Yes! I am a little disappointed in this video
Last week I had a BAD pinched nerve, could barely walk, painful if I did, had to start using my cane, after 2 days got out the walker which helped more, chiropractor appointments back to back made me some what better after 3 adjustments, having my 4th Thursday. Using ice three times daily. Pain pills barely touched the pain.
It’s not debilitating if it’s not happening to you. Most doctors have no clue. I see this is old, but felt the need to comment. Hopefully you’re feeling better.
Yes! It’s ruined my life 😰
These guys are 🤡
You guys are awesome!! As a PTA, I get alot of good information from you to treat my patients
Except being over 55.. it's a YES to all the questions 💔. Already know I have this,but still watched
woohoo yoohoo ...how old are you
Yes,I'm 52 and answered yes to all.
I'm 25 and it's a YES to all the questions 😭
No cure
IM 20 😭😭
Just got diagnosed with this today. I was an avid runner and weightlifter and all I can really do now is walk. I lost almost all strength in my dominant arm it’s working it’s way down and it’s getting hard to even grip anything. I’m only 34 life can be cruel.
Don’t have the back issue,but I do have broken heart. You guys DO make me feel better.😉👍🏻
Awesome! Clear and concise Spinal Stenosis assessment:)
Not debilitating? It certainly is! I can’t walk unless I’m hunched over, like pushing the shopping cart. I bought a back support belt at Home Depot which seems to help a lot.
@@wall37 bruh I feel ur pain literally
@@wall37 I totally understand! If my stenosis keeps getting worse, I’ll be in a wheelchair soon.
excellent video as always thank you bob and brad for all of your Proffessional
Expertise 👍👏😊
Awesome and clear video, thanks guys! Can you do one just like this, but for the neck? Would love to see that! Thanks again!
You guys are awesome. Thank you!
Excellent explanation !
I love you guys so much, everytime my doctor tells me what I might have, you guys upload a video of it asap its amazing thank you guys for everything. I am 21 and I got it.
What about exercises for stenosis of the C spine, C5-6 congenital fusion & Ankylosing Spondylitis?
I was diagnosed with this at age 31! It is painful! Laying down or sitting is my only option. I can’t walk much anymore not for long periods of time. I have 3 little kids. I don’t wish this on anyone!
This will never go away hey 😔
Surgery
@meagan I understand and feel your pain same here my pain started in 2014 went to doctor basically dismiss it said I was overweight. Later on got worse. I don't drive so I was used to walking most places also how I lost some weight and now I can't walk like I used too I also have 3 kids ages 10-14. I feel useless at times I feel limited
I have it. I used to always sleep on my back or right side. I switched from my right side to my left side and the pain went away. I hope this may help someone else.
Thank you for all the Information Bob Brad 😁😑
I was diagnosed in 1970 with lumbar sacral strain & sciatica. I have lower back pain & pain down my left leg. It sounds the same as Stenosis. Is it?
Very true; if you stretch out the hip flexors it is amazing how much better it makes you feel!
Yes, that's why back bends and positions like cobra (which Bob does very well) are so hard for me.
Stenosis sucks
I have no feeling from the waist down, it comes and goes. I have weakness in my feet and ankles. It gets worse when I reach up and I have severe pain down both of my legs. I need a cane to walk, it came on suddenly at age 50. My family told me "it's all in your head" and didn't take it seriously. Now it's ten years later and nothing has helped. this is a very debilitating condition. Also, when it started I weighed 139 lbs, am 5'4" tall and female. I also have a buzzing vibrations going down my legs. Sometimes the numbness gets so bad my whole body feels numb. I was checked for M.S. with a brain MRI it was negative. Had multiple MRI's on my back the diagnosis was spinal stenosis, radiculopathy, myelopathy. It totally messed up my life. My family is fed up with me. Doctors do not take me seriously.
First go to a good neurologist
I'm really sorry your family and doctors didn't take you seriously. People are afraid of what they don't understand. There ARE doctors who will take you seriously, you just have to be persistent. You deserve proper treatment!
I feel you :( doctors just look at me crazy... they don’t even wanna give me an mri
What makes your legs hurt and cramp and go numb from knees down while walking around a store? But if I sit down it’s better.
I definitely have lumbar stenosis and I suffer with pain in the lower buttocks and upper thigh would love to have any recommendations for exercises to
Hip flexors is my weakness, I've done the demonstrated exercise in another video, with the weakest resistance band I have, and even that was uncomfortable. Got lots of work to do
i passed test so i dont have ddd , so its either herniated disk or priformis,,, i cant stand from a sitting position without piercing pain, goes away after a few seconds and cant bend down while standing.... will a xray show whats wrong
Having spinal stenosis is like being in the leading role in the scifi series, Battlestar Sciatica. A very long running series that doesn't seem to ever end..
Can this in EARLY stages be caused by a preliminary type of (pre) calcification which may be reversed with supplementation? I was reading about something that can reverse this calcification possibly making the preliminary spine calcification (or something) more maleable.
It would be wonderful to know what that was. I know K2 can prevent calcification via enzymatic responses but I'm sure there was another thing to add to the diet that can help trigger the body to have a more "correctable" spine, possible by triggering and helping the bodies natural ability to counteract the impingement
Hey guys, important question. I'm a healthy 23 year old male and was recently diagnosed with spinal stenosis. I've had sciatica since I was 19 and recently it's gotten to the point where it's debilitating, which is why I finally pushed to get a diagnosis. In your best guess, what would cause this in someone of my age, and why?
I think you guys are great but I can't believe that you said spinal stenosis isn't debilitating. I wish! Diagnosed at 38 and my condition isn't improving despite doing your exercises and practicing regular yoga, I've now added in a couple of sessions of pilates a week. Believe me it's been debilitating on my life, I've gone from someone who would get up at 7,walk my 2 German shepherds for a good 2 hours, do housework, have a shower, get ready and then go to work, now I can't walk 1 German shepherd around the block. So I'm sorry guys but it is debilitating and those who haven't been affected like that, then they're really lucky because it changed my life for the worse.
Me too. I plan my whole life around avoiding walking for more than a few minutes.
@@amberleah2008 I can totally relate. I'm surprised at these guys saying that spinal stenosis is nothing to worry about, maybe for a lucky few but from what I've learned is that it doesn't get better. You can absolutely help your symptoms, yoga is my go to for pain relief along with morphine, tramadol, co-codamol, the list goes on. I have bulging discs and retrolisthesis as well as spinal stenosis all in the lumbar region so I need to be extra careful and do exercises for both conditions. My neck is buggered as well, don't know about the thoracic! I was lucky because my yoga teacher was a retired physio who has stopped teaching. So I'm planning on doing my yoga teacher training and take over from her. I want to show people that you can do yoga regardless of physical abilities, age, size etc. Amber Karnes is an amazing human being and I'm hoping that I'll be able to do her courses online when I get qualified. I live in Scotland and she's in America. She does ytt specifically for teaching yoga to those who basically think they can't because they're not 6 feet tall, willowy and able to put their legs behind their head! Sorry about the long post but it's good to know there's others out there who feel the same. I'm really disappointed in the blaze approach Bob and Brad have to spinal stenosis. Maybe it isn't a big deal for someone in their 70s but for me it completely changed my life and not for the better. I used to walk my 3 German shepherds every day for at least an hour and a half, I have one now and I can walk her round the block once in a blue moon. Again sorry, but this has annoyed me more than it probably should! Find a good yoga or pilates teacher, let them know what you have and how bad you're condition is and I guarantee you that you will have pain relief. It's only a couple of hours relief for me but it's so nice to get it. I wish you the best of health because it's really tough but give the yoga/pilates a go and see how you get on. You can even try videos on here, that's how I got started. Search for yoga for spinal stenosis or chair yoga. I really hope this helps you xx
Walking is the worst, and housework. I have to sit every few minutes. Also, I tore my ACL on it left knee (only attached by two fibers, which I'm pretty sure I tore off completely by now, and they won't do survey due to it age and weight), which makes the pain even worse, because I have a weak leg. It's debilitating. It's counter-productive to trying to get healthy when it's hard to walk. 😣
@@samanthabamantha5816 I know, but once you accept what's happening in your body and listen to it, it does get easier. So what if it takes 2 hours to clean the bathroom, that's life. Your knee pain must be torture, breathing techniques for relaxation I can't recommend that enough because if you learn yogic breathing then that's you practicing yoga. Whatever you try, do it a bit at a time. You can do yoga on a chair, your sofa, your bed and of course on a mat. Have a good look on RUclips for videos. I'd recommend for yourself, yoga with Adrienne, sleepy Santosha, yoga with Melissa and chriska yoga. They all do great gentle practices, Rachel on sleepy Santosha has a disability, so she's especially good. They all are, I hope you find something that works for you. I'm doing my yoga teacher training next January because there's nobody to cater for those who think they can't practice and the yoga community desperately needs people like myself. I was lucky, my teacher was a retired physio and she was wonderful. I just hope I can bring to people what she brought to me. Good luck hun, ever need a chat just leave a comment and I'm happy to help you if I can xxx
@@kirstymacfarlane1620 most of my stretching I have to do in my bed or from a chair or couch because I can't easily get on the ground. I'd LOVE to go on long walks, but even a spin around the grocery store can leave me in tears. I have good days and bad.
What if you’re not over 55 but you do have these symptoms (as well as a lifetime of periods of inexplicable lower back pain, neck pain and heel pain to the extend of not being able to stand after lying or sitting)?
Hello! New subscriber here.. Can you please make a video about tye difference between spinal stenosis and multiple sclerosis? My doctors said i have spinal stenosis but i did what you taught on this video, it does feel good if i stretch backwards. Thank you i hope you can do a video for me 🙏🙏🙏
Hi guys, love your videos. One question. I have a friend who has been diagnosed with lumbar stenosis. However he has the most pain when he sits down. Most of your videos on this subject suggest sitting should ease the pain. Any thoughts on this would be much appreciated 🙂
I have the same issue. Got any insight?
i have this- i have pain when sitting- but only if i am sitting in same position for prolonged periods- i lean over from waist and change positions often
love your content very informative but you guys are memes lol and I love it
Thank you both! Kinda new to your channel. Can you do a segment on a fractured back at the bottom where it meets the spine. I think my doc said the c.t.,mri,and xrays tests showed i have a (pars) problem with a fracture,and my gosh it has put me out of commision. My lower left side of spine at my pelvis is 3-4 × bigger than the right. The neurologist said the back doctor would just inject my spine. I hear and feel each and every vertebra click when i sit down,stand up,or just stand still and flex my back. Please go over these problems in a future video. Thank You!!
I have the same thing when I sit down or flex buttocks my vertebrae click and pop all the way down
What do I do
I have this
I’m 32 it says I was born with it
Vertebrae has osteoarthritis
C3-c7 slight bulge
Both rotator cuffs impingement and bursitis tendinitis
I fell 12 feet landed on my shoulder 2 years ago
Am I going to be paralyzed ???
I had two epidurals and neck got better but I do have pain looking left and right up and down at times
Also shoulders are still killllling
I can’t lift anything over my sheets a shirt
This is making me even more depressed than I’ve been
I’ve done cortisol injections they help for a month if that
I wonder if my leg pain I’ve had off an on almost like restless leg syndrome when sitting for awhile
If that’s my neck back issue
I got the shoulder impingement in left arm during my hpv vaccine never went away the pain
Ok its time to go in.
Yes, this can be debilitating! Classic patient report is that the distance they can walk decreases as they get older. "I use to be able to walk 3 miles now I can only walk 30 ft"
Find a reputable chiropractor for correction and maintenance. This has changes my quality of life tremendously. PT had no positive effects for me after 6 months of treatment. ugh.
Love your informational videos! I am noticing that the last few videos have lots of very brief video jerky segments. At first I thought they were editing cuts, but there are too many for that. Audio seems to flow fine it is just the video part.
Whew I thought it was just me 😌
It's editing cuts. There's a lot maybe bc those two have so much fun lol
I think they cut out longer pauses to keep the pace for better viewability
I noticed that, too. I don't like it. Thought I was losing my mind at first! Lol!
My pain is the reverse! It gets worse sitting and mild reclining and better when standing or sleeping. ???
How about an X-ray ? is the easiest way to tell if you have DDD..spinal stenosis
Thanks for your videos! why does my lower back pain move from one side to the other, Primary spot on my right can be pinpointed, it is more generalized on the left. pain is on the same horizontal line regardless of side about 1.5 inches above the coccyx with no sciatica...6 months now
Might be the muscles or fascia. Try massage and myofascial release.
thanks!
@@smilesmile7330 When I wasn't getting adjustments I got deep muscle massages, seems to have been as effective as the adjustments for my condition. I was having muscle spasms after an accident
I dont have any pain but pins and needles in my left foot and random sporadic nimbness in lower back, inner, back and side of left thigh. I did your test and felt nothing
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No mention about cervical stenosis❓
Hi Bob & Brad, could you please do a video on steps to help prevent osteoarthritis and stenosis later in life? I'm young with spondylolisthesis and this is one thing that concerns me quite a bit.
I think they have videos on posture that are supposed to help prevent arthritis if u search with those key words
there's no real way to prevent it imo. I was normal weight it came on at age 50.
Mine came on after auto crash, being ejected.
I went to a specialist and she told me it can't be spinal stenosis because I generally get pain only down my right leg. She said it would be equal in both with SS. Is that wrong?
She’s wrong. I have SS and I only have the nerve being activated in my right leg
What about people who are born with Idiopathic scoliosis but are having thoracic and lumber pain that causes numbness, tingling and and hip and joint pain ? I’m 25
First I’m so happy y’all posted your videos are so intrusting
I have spinal stenosis. And l5 rotating band sacram rotation rt on rt.b. and rotated tailbone. I do that with shopping cart
I do the shopping cart things also do does my mom and our friend
Exercises for a retrolasthesis?
I'm 36 and I have degenerative disc disease and degenerative facet disease I believe I have this going to my doctor today my lower back hurts all the time and at night my legs feel heavy and numb and it's so hard to fall asleep as I just can't get comfortable at all
I started using trekking sticks when I walk the river way, because my back hurts so bad when I stand up and walk. I have shopping cart syndrome. Even if I go into the store to buy a couple of things, I still get a shopping cart.
Yes me and my mother both do that
Me too
i could not sit and hips hurt. I had surgery and it all went away. Best decision i made..
What surfer did you have?
Should I keep running marathons with spinal stenosis
OMG yes I have shopping cart syndrome!! I also get numbness and tingling in my legs with walking and the only thing that helps is the back stretch you don't recommend... :(
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I did the test and I didn't need 30 seconds....it was immediate pain BUT I also got pain across the lower abdomen
Except if the spinal stenosis is of the central canal, then this doesn't apply. Or in cervical region
It would be nice if you’d link the extra videos in the discription to fast track. You two do not know how hard it is to find what you reference on RUclips.
Thanks
As soon as I lean back it hurts, no pain to speak of down the leg but my lumbar area really hurts. Help 😂
Me too. I have Ehlers Danlos syndrome with probable spinal instability and I have no idea what the actual problem is, all I know is pain 😭
Can this stenosis be contagious? Because I’m experiencing the symptoms of this and every sexual partner I had will start to have numbness in their legs as well as arthritis diagnosis after having sex with me
I answerd 'yes' to all the question except the 1st question. I'm 23.
I answered yes to all and only in my 30s does this still pertain to me?
Yes it can. I was hit by a car as a small child it led to arthritis in my early life diagnosed at 25 after years of having arthritis or degenerative disc disease you can end up spinal stenosis at that age
@@lashawnab.441 how old are you now? How are you dealing with it? I’m 41 and I’m in pain right now. I’m waiting on an appointment for steroid shots. 😭
@@butterflyygyrlsworld5106 I’ve had epidural injections since 2018 about 6 per year. This year I’m taking a break from them since deep research shows horrible side effects.
Thank you for this, gentlemen. Could you also discuss cervical stenosis? You seem focused on the lumbar area, but cervical has a whole different host of challenges.
I have the most advanced spinal stenosis were I can no longer walk, and I am now wheelchair bound.
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My dad has it and he doesn't won't to do the surgery because of risks because he's 80. Any advice for him? Thnks
I’m 27 but I think my back might be 57
What surgery they would do for this. I have this bad and I'm only 38. A 160 pound kid jump on my backpack and mess me up bad.
Try to avoid surgery! Try EVERYTHING else first!!!
Like it's bad. Because I dont feel my legs from thighs down after walking 5 mins. I be in pt for about 5 months. Nothing getting better but worse
@@lrddnaplayerdevelopment9573 That sounds awful. At least you are trying PT. All I'm saying is, go to different types of doctors (not just surgeons) and exhaust all efforts before you consider surgery. It is not the cure-all some people think it is, but it may be right for you. That is for you to determine, no one else. If you've tried everything and it is very much affecting your quality of life, and it sounds like it is, THEN consider surgery. And I would get the least invasive surgery possible. Do a lot of research about the surgeon and what type of surgery they suggest, and get a few different opinions. I wish you the best and I hope your pain eases.
The only issue with that my insurance is not the best. But a kid I train dad did my acl replacements. He was saying. You might have to get the surgery. I just smh. I try the shots. Pt. Stretching. Ice bath heat tens shock. I just want to move again and train people in hoops. This sucks
@@SweetStuffOnMonarchLane and DO NOT let an Orthopedist do surgery, if you choose that route, make sure it is a Neurosurgeon
Where would the back pain be? Mid to upper or lower?
Krista K It can be anyplace where the spinal canal is narrowed. I have it pretty much from my neck to my tail because of arthritis
Maggie May I see thank you.
@@kristak1102 Mine is in the buttock area & goes down my left leg.
@jeff jones Sad but true. Or, they will give you pain killers which you will get addicted to then what! Mine isn't as bad as yours. I have days days when it bothers me very little then there are times where I have to hold onto things to be able to walk. Standing is the worst. When I,m moving it's better.
@jeff jones your right they don't give a crap and I'm tired of being treated like a nobody by them
Is a video topic on overlaying conditions, what to and not do, possible please.
Lol I have this and I’m only in my mid-30’s
It would be helpful if these guys had interaction with actual clients.
What's going on if i am 38 and have stenosis?
Yea need to know myself
45 and just hot diagnosed too
It hurt more for me with the hip on slack
Hear one for you. Spine cord gets narrowed yes top to bottom ok yes it can very narrower now that’s something Answers please Love Light
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I am only 32 and have spinal stenosis and it is extremely debilitating
I also disagree with them Spinal Stenosis is painful and disabling,if you do not have it you do not realize this,I can not walk more than several blocks,without my lower back locking and my legs going numb which has resulted in several falls that have damaged my knees,I must walk with a cane and if I have to walk far,I must use a,rollator walker.
No way, you are so wrong. I’m almost immobile from my lumbar spinal stenosis. I’ve had every treatment doctors could offer and nothing works.
They are very wrong. And my pain is not in my head.
everyone has spinal stenosis over 55-60
I hope you guys read your comments. You were way off base this time.
Maybe not good to do if u have spondylolisthesis too!!
Excuse me? Not debilitating? Eh I would disagree! Had 5 hospital trips in one year! Had this for 10 years! Had ruined my life and am in chronic pain daily. Have another appointment with my surgeon next week! Constant trips to the pain clinic and not able to walk more than 20 mins without being utterly stopped in my tracks with pain. Can’t even go to the gym anymore so how is this not debilitating? Blown away 🤦🏻♀️🤦🏻♀️🤦🏻♀️
Spinal Stenosis can be serious. Loss of control is serious.
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No stenosis! Yay 😁
Stenosis and arthritis are so such completely different things silly for guy to even mention them as one in the same I'm 24 5 levels of sever stenosis and its definitely not arthritis lmao
It still could be arthritis. My children all have this along with arthritis, all are under 30.
I just got diagnosed with Lumbar Spinal stenosis in my l5 si. I had a mri done, and had a blood test for arthritis done. I came back negative for arthritis.
I have been subscribed for a long time but after this video I am unsubscribing. I don't know how I haven't already watched this video tbh, I watch them all I thought. I have had severe back pain since my early 20s but it wasn't until my mid 40s that I had MRIs done, that showed I have severe spinal stenosis in my cervical and lumbar spine. I had to give up a six figure salary job at 47 due to unmanageable pain levels. In my early 60s now and rarely leave the house due to chronic severe pain. How on Earth you can state that this condition is not debilitating and not a major problem is beyond me. Every doctor I have seen since my diagnosis has agreed that the pain from SS can be totally debilitating and I think my consultants and neurologists know a bit more than you two. To say I am disgusted is an under statement!
NOT debilitating???? Are you kidding me???? You are selling what???????????
I agree!! I am kinda disappointed in there conclusion of having this. I am all kinda of messed up.
I can't take these two seriously, my life is completely messed up from this condition for ten years now.
@@j.denino5732 me to
part of life? I'm fucking 19
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I'm so upset with this video. To say this is no big deal is a insult to people living with this. There are days I can hardly walk. I sleep in a recliner now because I can't lay in bed with my husband. There are days I can not bend down at all. I go to pain management. I take strong meds get injections in my back yet still in pain. Some days better then others but all ways in pain. Pain wakes me up in the middle of the night. Last night I was up all night in pain. Can't go out some days because I can't lift my leg to get in the car. Forget about standing long periods of time even when leaning on something. To be told by your Dr. if you fall you can be paralyzed. Do you know how scary that feels? Especially on days that your gait is off. The thoughts of if I don't wake up tomorrow it would be okay. So for you to say spinal stenosis is no big deal is insensitive and insulting! You have no idea the pain some of us are in! Every one's pain is not the same for you to make such a broad statement. Shame on you .
Holy cow you have 1.1 mil subs and you don’t have a quality production person? OMG with those horrible looking and and horrible sounding headsets. Senhieser makes an amazing lav mic that I’m sure you can afford. And for the love of all things RUclips get a cameraman that can keep stuff in frame while you’re presenting. I love you guys and I’m sure you’re very busy but seriously as someone who does this for a living it’s not that hard to have a quality production on a budget.
You are VERY wrong! Spinal Stenosis is VERY debilitating and painful!
I have spinal stenosis, and disc disease, and y'all buncha physical therapy people,,and I think you guy's are SOOOO WRONG,,,,YOU MAKING IT OUT TO BE ..OH,,IYS JUST SOMETHING YOU GO THROUGH, BS,,You guys should be bared