MLB insider Jeff Passan once said that "baseball's rules are unwritten because people would realize how stupid most of them were if they were officially written down"
I agree with the showing up part but if we are up im still trying to score. Teams can put 10 up on you quick unless the other team is showing they just trying to get it over with. I think Tatis hit a grand slam last year pretty sure it was in the 7th an up 4 to 0. The other team still has 9 outs to go. 4 to 0 is nothing
And if we got rid of the unwritten rules, the game would get a lot more boring. Those violations of what are essentially not illegal etiquette rules, give us stuff to talk about. I love them, especially the stupid ones (that being said, bat flip away boys)
I've been watching baseball for 50 years. Not swinging at the 1st pitch after the pitcher has given up back to back HR's isn't a thing. No idea where he got that from. And Daz...feel free to bunt during a no hitter. But if you foul it off...just know that the next pitch is going under your chin. And if you don't foul it off...regardless if you get a hit or not...in your next at bat against that team...you will for sure get one under the chin or in the back. It doesn't matter if your next at bat against that team is tomorrow, next week, next month, or next year. Baseball teams have long, unforgiving memories.
This video lost me with the explanation of "Don't steal bases, bunt...when behind by a wide margin" rule because it's "delaying the inevitable." If you try to bunt or steal when you're down you give the other team chances to get you out lol. It's literally the opposite of delaying the inevitable. The bunting breaking up a no-hitter should depend on the situation, though. If you're a batter that regularly tries to lay down a bunt every once in a while for a hit, why would you change the way you play because the opposing pitcher has a no-hitter going? Especially in a close game.
Never heard of the "don't swing at the first pitch" because it's disrespectful rule, I think a pissy pitcher just made it up. You ALWAYS go for the win, no matter how far behind. One of the things that I enjoy about baseball is how fast the game can change. 9 pitches in a row could result in 9 runs for a team or 3 strike out, or any combination. You can have bases loaded with 1 out, the next swing could give your team 4 more runs or end the inning without any.
That's literally the ONLY thing that's fast about baseball. It's the background music of sports. Even most big fans don't pay attention to every pitch unless there's drama involved.
This guy isn't very good at understanding baseball(not you John, but the narrator.) He's actually not right or completely accurate description about some of the other things.
All of the unwritten rules were made up by pissy pitchers. Unwritten rules enforcers are the biggest pissbabies in sports. I can't even imagine a weaker, wimpier set of rules. "Old-school" baseball players are the biggest snowflakes.
Yep Baseball games can change in a hurry. One game I remember Atlanta Braves at New York Mets mets at one point were losing the game 9 to 2 and the Mets scored 9 runs over the remaining Inning to win 11 to 9.
The one about leaving the dugout during a brawl is non-negotiable. I've heard directly from a former MLB player that if a bench clearing brawl happens and you stay in the dugout, the consequences can range anywhere from your teammates hating you after that, to being traded or even being sent down to the minors. If a brawl happens, you get your ass out on the field.....or else.
I played baseball through college at a high level my entire life.. Never in my life have I heard anyone say not to swing at the first pitch if a pitcher has given up back-to-back home runs... In fact, in my experience our coaches would be saying the opposite since the pitcher is most likely not going to want to throw balls or walk anyone.. He is likely going to guide a meatball right down the middle.
I've never played up to that level, but I'll guess this much. There's unwritten rules and then there's rules that are more like the "Pirate Code"; they're more of guidelines than rules. You don't have to not swing on the first pitch from a back-to-back homer pitcher, but you could to be courteous and garner some respect. However how valuable that respect is in the long run. . . . . You can steal a homer/foul ball from a little kid, but you'd be a dick for doing so. So again, guidelines vs actual rules like the drilling in retaliation. I think there's ones in every competition. House rules (the guidelines) and then the universal unspoken rules. House rules are up to everyone's own discretion while universal transcends languages, ages, genders, and every other social construct. If your unintentionally hit a batter, you gonna have something coming your way. If you intentionally hit a batter for no good reason, you're gonna get a brawl. You'd have a much better sense on what would be the rules and which is the "pirate's code".
Y'all were talking about no hitters, so I figured I'd leave this here to show how rare they really are. There have been 316 no hitters in MLB history dating back to 1876. Since then, nearly 220,000 games have been played. A perfect game is a variation of a no hitter when a pitcher doesn't allow a single baserunner (no hits, no walks, no errors, no hit by pitches, no dropped 3rd strikes resulting in a runner advancing to 1st). A pitcher must face 27 batters, and retire them all in order. This has been done only 23 times. I highly recommend watching compilations of perfect games. (Mark Buehrle and Felix Hernandez's perfect games would be a great place to start) Another unique baseball event is when a batter hits for the cycle. This is when a batter gets a single, double, triple, and a home run all in one game (doesn't have to be in that order). This has been done 335 times in MLB history. Keep in mind that batters (depending on where they are in the batting order) typically only get 4 at bats in a game, and are only guaranteed 3 at bats per game per spot on the lineup card. The last unique baseball event, and one of the rarest plays in sports, is the unassisted triple play. This is when one fielder, without the help of any teammates, records 3 outs on one play or pitch. This has only been done 15 times. It's typically done in a situation with runners on 1st and 2nd. The team batting must attempt a hit and run. That's where when the pitch is thrown, both runners attempt to steal bases, and the batter attempts to record a hit. For unassisted triple play purposes, the ball must be hit on a line towards 2nd base. The defensive player covering 2nd base catches the ball to retire the batter (out number 1), then tags the runner who was attempting to steal 2nd from first base(out number 2), and finally steps on the base at 2nd for the force out of the runner who originally occupied 2nd base(out number 3). This only works because all runners must return to the base they originally occupied when an out is made on the fly. I'd recommend watching the video of Eric Bruntlett's unassisted triple play as its the most recent one to have occurred.
5:40 - There have been large comebacks in the ninth inning in recent years - on May 5, 2022, the Phillies were leading 7-1 against the Mets going into the ninth (final) inning, but the Mets scored 7 runs in the inning to win the game 8-7. Baseball has no time clock, so anything can happen - on August 5, 2001 - the Seattle Mariners were leading the Cleveland Indians 14-2 going into 7th inning. Cleveland scored 12 runs in the final 3 innings of regulation, and then scored a run in the 11th inning to win the game 15-14. 11:00 - On July 23, 2009, Hawk Harrelson (Chicago White Sox announcer) announced that White Sox pitcher Mark Buehrle had a perfect game going into the 9th inning against the Tampa Bay Rays. That was an unwritten rule for broadcasters as well to not mention perfect games/no-hitters explicitly over the air before the game was over, as to not jinx the pitcher. Here is his call after the 8th inning was over: "Call your sons. Call your daughters. Call your friends. Call your neighbors. Mark Buehrle has a perfect game going into the ninth." The announcement did not backfire, as Mark Buehrle finished the perfect game, with the help of a home-run robbing catch from Dewayne Wise in the 9th inning! 11:45 - Bunting during a no-hitter/perfect game is seen as somewhat acceptable when the score is close and not in the 9th inning. After all, when you are down by only 1-2 runs, the game is still very much in doubt, and any baserunners are a good thing to have for the trailing team.
Yep, most baseball fans has seen a lot of dramatic, unexpected comebacks. The "unwritten rules" that ignore that comebacks are a real thing are the dumbest rules imo. That and the way teams act like a bunt or piddly hit late in the game that spoils a no-hitter is somehow grounds for a beanball war. No team should just roll over and accept defeat or take being no-hit.
Still remember a game in 2011 between the D-Backs and Dodgers where the score was tied 1-1 after 9 innings. The Dodgers scored 5 runs in the top of the 10th and then had the D-Backs at 2 outs with no one on base. The D-Backs barely beat the throw for an in field hit and then proceeded to score 6 runs topped off by a walk off grand slam. You just never really know when it comes to baseball.
you need to react to “The Code - the unwritten rules of fighting and retribution in ice hockey” by the same channel it explains a lot of questions i’ve seen you guys have about hockey
Most of these are pretty accurate, but the no swinging at the first pitch after back to back homeruns "rule" is not something I've ever heard of. I think it's fair to say that one is off -- it's not a thing. Also, the centerfielder catching the ball isn't an unwritten rule. It's just general best practice to have an understanding that certain players have certain authority in the field. Centerfielders are generally the captian of the outfield and if he says he's got it, the other outfielders will defer to him. As far as the unintentional hit batter is concerned, no pitcher is perfect and even the best pitchers will have a pitch get away from them every now and then. I don't think it's totally accurate to say you should expect retaliation even if it was an accident. I think there's a general understanding if the hit-by-pitch was intentional or not based on history, the score, and the game situation. Most players and coaches will brush off an accidental hit batter. They will make it well known if they think it was on purpose. Lastly, I want to note that many of these unwritten rules are changing with the younger generation of players that have come up in recent years. Especially ones regarding showboating -- bat flips and dancing and things like that. The game had become a grumpy old man sport and is now starting to embrace the young kids who just want to have fun and show emotion without actually offending anybody.
Some center fielders need to know when to lay off. When the center fielder is catching the ball where the left or right fielder is playing and hasn't moved... that is a just being a dick.
I think the back to back home run rule is rare enough that we'd never know if it got invoked. On the unintentional hit batter, I think the actual unwritten rule is the pitcher admits if a hit is intentional or not. If you hit a guy to send a message or for retaliation, you own up to it. You don't say so to the ref, but you make sure the other team gets the message, and you don't feign innocence.
@@Mauther I think it's fairly easy to tell whether or not a batter drilling was intentional or not. The reactions of the pitcher usually tell all. Namely their initial reaction and how they pitch after that. Usually if they meant to do that, they have absolutely no issue bringing the pitch in close to the batter again and again, because they don't care about drilling the batter. If it was an accident then they're usually a little shaken up; even if they're a pro. Pitching 90+MPH within 1 ft of a person suddenly seems really difficult with the anxiety you're feeling. I'm only speaking from experience in Soccer. You feel pretty good with your slide tackle but the moment you get a janky one and take someone out and they go out on a stretcher because of you and you never meant that to happen, suddenly you really don't want to slide tackle anymore. However, if it's someone you really don't like or you're just too into the game, you kind of don't care and would gladly do it again. Your intent definitely shows in you after the fact.
I love Mike's accent he clips every word I can barely understand WTF he is saying ? It's like a buzz vs a sentence ? It's like a hynn vs an actual language He sounds like a bee ? 😂 I have to listen so closely luv it. Is he speaking English ! fabulous Don't stop
Can you react to "MLB Inside The Park Home Runs Compilation" by Made the Cut or "MLB Players Stealing Home!" by MLB? Inside-the-park home runs and stealing home are two of the most exciting offensive plays in baseball, and those compliations have great highlights of both plays!
@@hifijohn if you know where home is… my point was that something like catches may be better appreciated since stealing home requires a good knowledge of the game to get full excitement out of.
Been a baseball fan for over 50 years and I have never heard of the don't swing at pitch after back to back home runs. As for bunting during a no hitter I'm going to swing away. In today's social media you would be labeled a dick for life and would be risking your health if you were successful
@@david-1775 Usually it’s if the game is basically out of reach, if the pitcher is in his groove it’s very likely that he can continue his historic pace. Bunting during a no hitter/perfect game is like touching a painting very quickly while no one is looking with a sign in front of it that’s says no touching like ooo ur so cool for getting ur bunt down for the one hit in a 7-0 game
Some of these are just baby rules. Who doesn't want to dismantle the opponent late in a game where you're down by a few and need a mental edge to get back in the game? That rule where you don't swing at a pitcher's first throw after back to back HR is just ridiculous. I'd make it 3 in a row and wave em bye.
I grew up playing and watching baseball and I agree with none of these. These are just benign issues that have become excuses to fight. Things happen in the heat of competition. You can't control how your opponents want to interpret your actions, and often these things are done intentionally to rile both your team and the other team. The only retaliation for perceived disrespect is to throw at players intentionally. When that happens, even on accident, players sort it out with their fists like they do more commonly in ice hockey. That is the real unwritten rule of North American sports. We're delicate and we like to fight because it adds more adrenaline to proceedings. I've seen basketball fights, soccer fights, tennis fights, golf fights, chess fights. It's doesn't matter. For many of us, competition means the stakes are always the highest they can be.
My university had "No Hitter Day" when admission to a baseball game was free to support Child Abuse Prevention. It was interesting that the score ended up being a landslide in my school's favor.
A “No-Hitter” or a “Perfect Game” are so rare, and so prized as historical accomplishments in baseball ⚾️, that “bunting” to try to get a hit after going all game trying and failing to get a hit honesty by swinging, just comes off as a bitch move. It’s looked down upon by home and away fans. Because you really didn’t “earn it”, but got a fluke hit on a technicality, robbing a pitcher out of what should have been a historical accomplishment, just because you weren’t good enough to hit his stuff.
Most of those are true. The one about not swinging on the first pitch after two home runs is something I never heard of. The others are pretty accurate.
The thing about “not running up the score” in baseball is because there is no clock. Theoretically a game can be played forever so like they say “the other team basically concedes and just wants to get out of there” if you’re good enough and there’s no mercy rules, you could LITERALLY make them stay there indefinitely and just keep enduring it. Baseball is different than every other major sport in that way as there’s no clock.
There was a Cincinnati Reds coach named Sparky Anderson. He regularly would argue with the umpires and kicking dirt on them. Today, it would probably get him ejected. He was a great coach that used those confrontations to fire his team up.
The Terry Collins clip when Syndergaard was tossed is a Classic. The video is on YT the whole profanity laced explosion was all caught on the crew chiefs mic . It's great
The short of base stealing is once the ball is live or the game is in play, so to say, then stealing is allowed but is a risk. Once the ball is dead (the play ends) you're not allowed to proceed or attempt to proceed through the bases. The ball essentially is live once the umpire says it is. Normally the conditions are is if the pitcher is on their mound, the batter is in their box, the catcher is squatted down, and the umpire is ready to officiate. But that's why you don't see runners just keep running as the pitcher is getting ready and the fielders are passing the ball back to the pitcher. The ball is dead at that point and they cannot even attempt to steal legally (weird thing to say even in context.)
I think an MBL pitcher throwing a no hitter would be like a soccer goalie rejecting 20 shots on goal, while kicking the game winner from the other side of the field for a 1-0 win.
the reason bunting a no hitter is seen a bad form is because all bunts are usually used to move a runner up the bases with a sacrifice --a correct bunt causes the ball to drop right in front of home plate and the catcher and the bunter usually gets out at first base
I disagree Daz, you shouldn’t bunt to ruin a no-hitter and here’s why: because there are only very few situations where bunting is considered viable such as runners on 1st and 3rd with 0 or 1 out. By definition, if a guy is mid no-hitter, there is nobody on base, and bunting with nobody on base will result in you getting out 90%+ of the time. So you’re not actually trying to win the game you’re just trying desperately to ruin someone’s stats without actually trying to win the game. It’s like plowing through the line to block an extra-point in NFL just to ruin the kicker’s 100% PAT rating even though there’s 3 seconds left and you’re down by 24. There’s just no reason for it except to be a C U Next Thursday.
Runners advance, after a hit. If you advance a base between hits. This is stealing. As the runner is always required to leave first base, for a new runner to arrive. So when you leave in between hits and you are not required to, that is when you call it stealing
Bunting in a No-Hitter is a scale for sure. If it's a late inning and a close game, you play to win even if you don't like it. If it's the 5th inning, or you're down 3+ late, or it's a Perfect Game in progress, you definitely don't bunt.
Hey guys. I have been in that situation in various leagues (as a teen not a pro) where there was a pitcher throwing a no hitter or a perfect game. I would attempt a bunt or tell someone else to earlier in the game. Like maybe in the 6th inning or so. Just remove that possibility. As far as throwing at someone, it used to be typical if your best player got hit, their best player better not dig in too deep when he came to bat. Or back before Designated Hitters when pitchers had to bat, if the other pitcher hit one of your guys, you (if you were pitching) would knock that pitcher down when he came to bat. No matter what the score trying to hit a home run is fine. Thats your job and also one of the things that determine what your salary might be on your next contract. Stats are important. By the way, the guy in blue who got blasted in the face by that punch, is one of the cheapest, dirtiest and biggest trash talking showboats in the game. I feel like stealing when you are up big (or bunting) is cheap, by everything is fine to do when you are behind. You are trying to get back in the game after all.
Every European needs to watch the movie, "Bull Durham". It will teach you everything you need to know about American baseball. And it's Kevin Costner...so it's good.
When you all get the gaming channel up and running you ought to play some sport games you’re not too familiar with like MLB but I’m sure you all plan to do that anyway.
Late comment but there was a time that I intentionally hit 3 batters in a row because their team stole a base when they were up 9 runs with 2 innings left. My coach called a timeout to talk to me after the first one and asked if that was the reason. I said "yes" and he responded with "good job". After I hit the next two he just gave me a thumbs up. If we were any older, I probably would have been thrown out of the game, but since we were young enough (13-14), they just thought I was inaccurate............Also, baseball is the most superstitious sport in existence. In a game where a 30% success rate gets you into the Hall of Fame, people try to boost their luck any way imaginable. I know people who have driven exact routes to a field, switching lanes at exact times in order to preserve their luck
FYI just so you understand the the difference between a no hitter and a perfect game, when a pitcher throws a no hitter no batter gets a hit against him. BUT batters can still reach base on a walk, a fielding error, a passed ball, or by being hit by a pitch. It’s still a great accomplishment but in every season you see a few no hitters across Major League Baseball. Much harder is the perfect game. In the Perfect Game a pitcher does not allow any batter to first base. 27 batters come up to bat and the pitcher gets all 27 of them out. This is rare. You may get one of these every few years.
A couple of mistakes: 1) Accidental hit-by-pitch happens a lot. Pitchers aren't *that* in control of their pitches that accidental HPBs are rare. Especially if a pitcher is aiming for the inside part of the plate, throwing "up and in," accidents happen all the time. 2) It's not an unwritten rule center fielders catch the ball, and it has nothing to do with personal statistics. The CF can "call off" the right fielder or left fielder if a ball is headed between them. This is important because the the CF and RF (or CF and LF) will both be watching the ball and not the other man. If both men call "I got it" the CF gets it. The same is true of the middle infielders: the shortstop can call off the third baseman, the second baseman can call off the first baseman. Between the SS and 2B there is no hard-and-fast rule; usually the more veteran player has authority. Outfielders call off infielders, since they have the ball in front of them and have the best chance to make a catch. Last rule: pitchers never catch pop-ups; they're presumed to be good for only one thing and that's throwing the ball, so they always defer to the nearest infielder or the catcher.
Thank god these 'unwritten rules' are under fire this year. Win big, don't let up, be better from the first pitch to the last. Teams come back all the time.
During a possible no hitter it’s only the bunt which is considered poor form. If you hit a homer, or any other hit, fair game. Also, all players & fans from both sides admire & (possibly secretly) celebrate a no hitter. ❤
This situation never came up when I played ball in high school, but that's correct. If you're winning by a large margin, don't be unsportsmanlike about it. We all have our bad days.
One thing you have to understand about baseball players is that generally, they are a different breed from other people, or even athletes in other sports. And among baseball players, pitchers are somewhat of a different breed, and among pitchers, relief pitchers are the different breed. It's difficult to explain exactly what this means, you just have to have watched baseball for a long time to know what I'm talking about.
The centerfielder catching the ball isn't really an unwritten rule... it's just baseball strategy. There needs to be a hierarchy in the outfield to prevent two players from going for the same ball and running into each other. If the centerfielder calls for the ball, he overrules the other two outfielders.
As someone who played baseball for most of their life, I personally disagree with most of the unwritten rules and feel like a lot of them prevent the game from being as popular as it could be. Especially those “rules” that try to police the etiquette of the game and discourage showboating and other things that I think just make the game more fun and competitive.
shit I only commented half way into the video had to make another, Pitchers accidentally hitting people happens in almost every game. It happens sometimes the pitcher lost his grip or tried to through an inside fastball. The first year I played baseball, I'm 8 mind you. I set the league record for most people hit at 16. Even when you grow up and become a pro, that shit happens all the time. I'd say at least 95% of beaned balls were totally on accident. And everyone knows it, and nothing happens except the batter being pissed because that hurt.
I understand why the bunting thing during a no hitter is what it is, because it sorta means "in theory", that you wanna man up and swing for a solid base hit (even a homer) But with that said, I'm all fine for bunting as bunting has pretty much always been part of the game. The bunt has actually diminished a lot in today's game, and strategically speaking, I'd say go for the bunt. And if you do, better succeed or the batter looks kinda worse
Most of these unwritten rules are there to avoid fights and retaliation. When I was in High School we played our neighboring school at the end of the season (not a rivalry, just close proximity). Wouldn't effect the standings (we were way ahead and already into the playoffs, they were not and couldn't qualify) so our coach made a deal with the other coach that if the game was out of reach, we were going to let our equipment manager pitch an inning. He was a really nice kid named Donnie, had Downs Syndrome and never got to play. So we crushed them in the first 6 innings, our pitcher was insane and went on to play for UT. We were up first, so our coach notified the other coach we'd be putting Donnie in, and he agreed. So our three batters went up and fell on their swords (2 dinks and 1 strike out). Their first batter came up and did a great job "struggling" to hit Donnie's 55 mph fastball, going down swinging. The crowd went wild, both dugouts cheered, Donnie was having the time of his life. Second dude took the plate, and just smashed the sh%t out of the first pitch. Cleared the wall by a good 40 feet. Did his circuit skipping and hooting and clapping to the fans. He scored the point, but never crossed home. I was playing catcher, and when he was approaching home I laid him out. From what I am told, it was a near perfect spearing. While everyone was gathered around me, screaming and yelling, our third baseman Hector just stomped the ever living (bleep) out of the runner. Both Hector and I were ejected, I missed 2 games, Hector missed 5.
If I catch a foul ball or a homerun from the air or on a bounce and there are no kids going after it, I'm keeping it. I've dreamt of doing it since I was kid and never have. But if in the scrum of reaching for a ball on the ground, a kid is involved, then you give it to the kid.
okay he's a bit off about the drilling thing. You never ever go for the head, because someone could get really hurt and now the other team will want to kill you more then otherwise. You throw at their ass or lower back. It will still hurt like hell but no one is injured.
One unwritten rule: the pitcher doesn't apologize for hitting a batter. He's not being a dick, and it doesn't mean it was deliberate. It just rarely happens, and only if a hitter is badly hurt and a pitcher is despondent and feels awful about what happened -- it goes without saying in those cases it was an accident. The majority of hit-by-pitches are accidents.
Baseball players are the twitchiest, fidgetiest, and most superstitious athletes in the world. Most of a 3-hour game they are just sitting in the dugout with all this pent-up energy, so they are constantly spitting, and eating sunflower seeds, chewing gum (used to be tobacco). They have specific bats and gloves and all sorts of OCD rituals before they come to the plate, and after guys hit home runs etc.. I think there are more arcane rituals in an average MLB game than there are in the Catholic Church.
The biggest unwritten rule is about the ball and who gets it. It’s dooshbaggery to take the ball or deny the ball to a child. That’s fuggin’ sick anywhere...probably deadly at some venues too! Any time a child’s experience can be supported, it’s the right time.
No bunting during a No Hitter only really is a thing in the 8th or 9th inning when you re getting killed. You have to remember that there are 162 games in a season and most games are boring so when a guy is on a no-no it is a big deal. However, if its a 1-0 game in a no-no and the pitcher walked a guy you can bunt him over to 2nd.
Not bunting during a no-hitter: This is because bunts are seen as a cheap way to get a hit, and more importantly, a very anti climactic way to end something special the pitcher is doing. You can do it before the 7th inning, but once it gets to that final stretch, it's just good sportsmanship to earn your hit with solid contact instead of trying to sneak one in just to ruin the pitcher's accomplishment. No stealing a base while down: While down *BIG*, is the missing word there. If a team is down by a couple of runs, a steal is always acceptable. If a team is down by 8 runs, there's an unspoken agreement that, to save everyone's time (including the fans'), the pitcher won't waste time trying to pick off the runner and the runner won't steal. It's also not in the best interest of the runner to want to steal from a strategic standpoint, because it's too risky to get caught and their team needs a bunch of hits with guys on base if they're going to make a comeback anyway. However, if the runner does steal, he's taking advantage of the agreement because the pitcher wasn't even trying to stop him (in order to save everyone's time and get on with the game). So in this case, the base runner is padding his own stats with a free steal which is not a good look. No walking on the mound: This is mostly a respect thing, and partially to keep players from messing with the pitchers' mound. The pitchers spend a little time moving dirt to feel comfortable planting their foot during a pitch and they don't want some guy who just made an out to kick dirt all over the mound as they walk from the bases back to the dugout. Don't walk in front of the catcher/umpire: Long story short, there's a few reasons it started, but it's mostly tradition at this point. Batters just don't do it. And if a batter does do it, the pitcher will probably wonder if the batter is trying to insult him or if he's just stupid.
Sweet, I recommended this on the last baseball vid Edit: Some seem real silly but its been engrained in the culture and is just part of the game. Flipping the bat, or standing there to watch a homerun leave are the real big ones. Its very respect based
It's funny. It doesn't matter if it's little League or major League. Players never step on the caulk lines going on or coming off the field. It's never told yet every player does it.
You can try to advance a runner (steal a base) without the ball being hit into play. For example, you'll see base runners take a lead to get a jump on heading to the next base if there is a hit, but they'll also use that as an opportunity to steal the next base if the pitcher isn't paying attention as he's preparing to make a pitch, or if the ball is pitched and the catcher has trouble handling it, or the base runner is speedy and fancies his chances.
To Daz, the thing about bunting on a no hitter is that the only reason to do it is to F with the pitcher because you have no others on base and it doesnt serve as an advantage. So all it does it ruin the pitchers stats and doesnt help your team at all.
11:25 its hard to compare sport to sport. I would say pitching nine innings of shutout baseball is equal to a keeper having a clean sheet. A no hitter goes beyond that though and is harder to do. Maybe something like the team going a full 90 and not letting the opponent have one shot on goal the entire match.
A big reason for all these unwritten rules is the insane length of the baseball season. They play 162 games a year, and almost every day from April to October, and that's not counting post season. The amount of time these guys spend, not only with each other, but with their opponents, coaches/managers and even umpires is unmatched in professional sports. So, they are much more inclined to take small slights and perceived disrespect personally. So many of them also have insane memories - usually honed by years of recalling and analyzing pitch counts, patterns, individual and team stats etc. Often times, the "retaliation" for perceived slights happens weeks or even seasons later - especially personal ones. Team ones tend to happen in the same game or within the same series (most teams play each other in successive days...usually 3-4 at a time). One more thing. While these unwritten rules certainly still exist. Younger players are ignoring or changing them more and more (leading to more retaliation in the short term, but I suspect many of these to be gone within a generation). Baseball has a reputation for being old, stodgy and slow. I love it, but even I can recognize that the game needs to change to retain, let alone regain popularity. Younger fans LIKE the show-boating and the celebrations. Those who complain about it can't help but seem out of touch - be they players, managers or fans.
The reason you're not supposed to steal bases or bunt with a big lead isn't to avoid running up the score. Those are one-run strategies, where you risk making an out in exchange for increasing your chance of scoring a single run. The reason these things are frowned upon with a big lead is that it looks like you're just trying to make yourself look good instead of trying to win the game. Note that it's not against any unwritten rule to keep trying to score runs, for instance, to hit a home run with a seven-run lead in the 8th inning. The bit about not swinging at the first pitch after back-to-back home runs is fantasy. There is no such unwritten rule. Some of these rules are cultural. In some countries, especially the Spanish-speaking countries like Dominican Republic and Venezuela, they don't see anything wrong with celebrating after a home run. Retaliation is usually against the player who broke the unwritten rule, not just against the next batter. I have seen games where someone steals a base with a big lead, and they have waited for that player to come to bat again to throw at him. Sometimes if the infraction happens late in the game, they'll retaliate during the next game. Generally speaking, throwing at a batter's head is considered out of bounds. Retaliation pitches are often thrown at the legs or lower torso. If a pitcher really wants to send a message, he'll throw a pitch behind the batter, which makes it obvious that it was on purpose. Hitting a batter in the head is really dangerous. What's worse than talking to a pitcher during a no-hitter is mentioning to anyone that a no-hitter is going on. Everyone on the team is supposed to act like it's a normal game for fear of jinxing it. It's not true that teams will retaliate for an accidental hit-by-pitch. Retaliation only happens if they believe the hit-by-pitch was deliberate. Being hit by pitches every so often is just part of the game, and it usually doesn't happen on purpose. Most baseball "brawls" consist of players grabbing each other and milling around. An actual brawl where everyone is really fighting everyone else is unusual, and it's really ugly when it does happen.
A player that moonwalks around the bases after a homerun will get a pitch in the head his next time up. Maybe his next 2 or 3 times up. Not talking to a pitcher that's throwing a no hitter is an individual thing. If you know your pitcher doesn't like it, you don't. Some pitchers don't mind at all.
Bat flipping. I think pitchers are wayyyyy too sensitive on this. It is one thing to look right at the pitcher and then flip the bat it is another thing to get a go ahead HR or one that ties it up and flip the bat while you are looking at your dugout. I also wouldn't stand there and flex in the 4th inning when the score is 5-3, that is a bit douchy as well.
You can do it. But you are not a real man anymore, and all of your teammates are fair game, if you do. Especially 7th inning and later. Nobody cares if you bunt in the 3rd inning to break up a no hitter.
Like everyone else…I’ve never heard of the first pitch after a back-to-back. That’s not even up for debate, cuz it’s not a thing. The crossing of the line between pitcher and catcher is iffy, also
So I played (American) football growing up which is obviously a full contact, aggression heavy sport but I saw my brother get in far more fights at his baseball games than I ever did
In regards to the conversation about bunting during a no-hit bid, there's another factor to consider: if your team is being no hit, your team is also likely losing by a good margin. If you were to bunt ONLY to take away the no-hit bid, then it's seen as you being a dickhead especially because there's not much chance for your team to win. Just getting on first base is not enough to spark your team to a comeback 99.999999999% of the time, so it's seen as a personal jab or attack on the pitcher themselves in order to prevent them from recording a stat that is, for many players, a once in a lifetime opportunity
I agree with not showboating when you hit a home run while being way behind, but the team shouldn't give up. Saying they shouldn't try to come back (steal bases, move runners) is ludicrous.
MLB insider Jeff Passan once said that "baseball's rules are unwritten because people would realize how stupid most of them were if they were officially written down"
He ain’t wrong
I agree with the showing up part but if we are up im still trying to score. Teams can put 10 up on you quick unless the other team is showing they just trying to get it over with. I think Tatis hit a grand slam last year pretty sure it was in the 7th an up 4 to 0. The other team still has 9 outs to go. 4 to 0 is nothing
And if we got rid of the unwritten rules, the game would get a lot more boring. Those violations of what are essentially not illegal etiquette rules, give us stuff to talk about. I love them, especially the stupid ones (that being said, bat flip away boys)
Unwritten rules (most of them, some are legit IMO) are what keeps me from going all in on baseball. So many of them are at the expense of the fan.
I've been watching baseball for 50 years. Not swinging at the 1st pitch after the pitcher has given up back to back HR's isn't a thing. No idea where he got that from.
And Daz...feel free to bunt during a no hitter. But if you foul it off...just know that the next pitch is going under your chin.
And if you don't foul it off...regardless if you get a hit or not...in your next at bat against that team...you will for sure get one under the chin or in the back. It doesn't matter if your next at bat against that team is tomorrow, next week, next month, or next year.
Baseball teams have long, unforgiving memories.
Same here. Never heard you shouldn’t steal a base if you’re behind.
If the computer bunts against me while im throwing a no hitter in MLB the Show, the next 2 batters get 98 in the face.
This video lost me with the explanation of "Don't steal bases, bunt...when behind by a wide margin" rule because it's "delaying the inevitable." If you try to bunt or steal when you're down you give the other team chances to get you out lol. It's literally the opposite of delaying the inevitable.
The bunting breaking up a no-hitter should depend on the situation, though. If you're a batter that regularly tries to lay down a bunt every once in a while for a hit, why would you change the way you play because the opposing pitcher has a no-hitter going? Especially in a close game.
I was just about to say this like since when is that a thing
I think its don't swing at the 1st pitch after the pitcher has given up back to back WALKS.
If i found a shirt that said "pistols at dawn... bring your own beer." I would wear it daily... this guy has a way with words.
Never heard of the "don't swing at the first pitch" because it's disrespectful rule, I think a pissy pitcher just made it up. You ALWAYS go for the win, no matter how far behind. One of the things that I enjoy about baseball is how fast the game can change. 9 pitches in a row could result in 9 runs for a team or 3 strike out, or any combination. You can have bases loaded with 1 out, the next swing could give your team 4 more runs or end the inning without any.
Well, after giving up 2 HRs in a row, there's nobody on base to score a run so most of the damage has already been done. But I get your point.
That's literally the ONLY thing that's fast about baseball. It's the background music of sports. Even most big fans don't pay attention to every pitch unless there's drama involved.
This guy isn't very good at understanding baseball(not you John, but the narrator.) He's actually not right or completely accurate description about some of the other things.
All of the unwritten rules were made up by pissy pitchers. Unwritten rules enforcers are the biggest pissbabies in sports. I can't even imagine a weaker, wimpier set of rules. "Old-school" baseball players are the biggest snowflakes.
Yep Baseball games can change in a hurry. One game I remember Atlanta Braves at New York Mets mets at one point were losing the game 9 to 2 and the Mets scored 9 runs over the remaining Inning to win 11 to 9.
The one about leaving the dugout during a brawl is non-negotiable. I've heard directly from a former MLB player that if a bench clearing brawl happens and you stay in the dugout, the consequences can range anywhere from your teammates hating you after that, to being traded or even being sent down to the minors. If a brawl happens, you get your ass out on the field.....or else.
If you don't have your teammates backs, are you even really part of the team?
I played baseball through college at a high level my entire life.. Never in my life have I heard anyone say not to swing at the first pitch if a pitcher has given up back-to-back home runs... In fact, in my experience our coaches would be saying the opposite since the pitcher is most likely not going to want to throw balls or walk anyone.. He is likely going to guide a meatball right down the middle.
I've never played up to that level, but I'll guess this much. There's unwritten rules and then there's rules that are more like the "Pirate Code"; they're more of guidelines than rules. You don't have to not swing on the first pitch from a back-to-back homer pitcher, but you could to be courteous and garner some respect. However how valuable that respect is in the long run. . . . . You can steal a homer/foul ball from a little kid, but you'd be a dick for doing so. So again, guidelines vs actual rules like the drilling in retaliation. I think there's ones in every competition.
House rules (the guidelines) and then the universal unspoken rules. House rules are up to everyone's own discretion while universal transcends languages, ages, genders, and every other social construct. If your unintentionally hit a batter, you gonna have something coming your way. If you intentionally hit a batter for no good reason, you're gonna get a brawl. You'd have a much better sense on what would be the rules and which is the "pirate's code".
Yea never heard that one before
Wasn't there a college that had 4+ consecutive homers?
Exactly when you should swing. Especially if you’re down. Pitchers in a slump take advantage
@@itsCorona29 think it was 6 by Florida state back to back to etc…
Y'all were talking about no hitters, so I figured I'd leave this here to show how rare they really are. There have been 316 no hitters in MLB history dating back to 1876. Since then, nearly 220,000 games have been played.
A perfect game is a variation of a no hitter when a pitcher doesn't allow a single baserunner (no hits, no walks, no errors, no hit by pitches, no dropped 3rd strikes resulting in a runner advancing to 1st). A pitcher must face 27 batters, and retire them all in order. This has been done only 23 times. I highly recommend watching compilations of perfect games. (Mark Buehrle and Felix Hernandez's perfect games would be a great place to start)
Another unique baseball event is when a batter hits for the cycle. This is when a batter gets a single, double, triple, and a home run all in one game (doesn't have to be in that order). This has been done 335 times in MLB history. Keep in mind that batters (depending on where they are in the batting order) typically only get 4 at bats in a game, and are only guaranteed 3 at bats per game per spot on the lineup card.
The last unique baseball event, and one of the rarest plays in sports, is the unassisted triple play. This is when one fielder, without the help of any teammates, records 3 outs on one play or pitch. This has only been done 15 times. It's typically done in a situation with runners on 1st and 2nd. The team batting must attempt a hit and run. That's where when the pitch is thrown, both runners attempt to steal bases, and the batter attempts to record a hit. For unassisted triple play purposes, the ball must be hit on a line towards 2nd base. The defensive player covering 2nd base catches the ball to retire the batter (out number 1), then tags the runner who was attempting to steal 2nd from first base(out number 2), and finally steps on the base at 2nd for the force out of the runner who originally occupied 2nd base(out number 3). This only works because all runners must return to the base they originally occupied when an out is made on the fly. I'd recommend watching the video of Eric Bruntlett's unassisted triple play as its the most recent one to have occurred.
5:40 - There have been large comebacks in the ninth inning in recent years - on May 5, 2022, the Phillies were leading 7-1 against the Mets going into the ninth (final) inning, but the Mets scored 7 runs in the inning to win the game 8-7. Baseball has no time clock, so anything can happen - on August 5, 2001 - the Seattle Mariners were leading the Cleveland Indians 14-2 going into 7th inning. Cleveland scored 12 runs in the final 3 innings of regulation, and then scored a run in the 11th inning to win the game 15-14.
11:00 - On July 23, 2009, Hawk Harrelson (Chicago White Sox announcer) announced that White Sox pitcher Mark Buehrle had a perfect game going into the 9th inning against the Tampa Bay Rays. That was an unwritten rule for broadcasters as well to not mention perfect games/no-hitters explicitly over the air before the game was over, as to not jinx the pitcher. Here is his call after the 8th inning was over:
"Call your sons. Call your daughters. Call your friends. Call your neighbors. Mark Buehrle has a perfect game going into the ninth."
The announcement did not backfire, as Mark Buehrle finished the perfect game, with the help of a home-run robbing catch from Dewayne Wise in the 9th inning!
11:45 - Bunting during a no-hitter/perfect game is seen as somewhat acceptable when the score is close and not in the 9th inning. After all, when you are down by only 1-2 runs, the game is still very much in doubt, and any baserunners are a good thing to have for the trailing team.
That Wise catch was amazing!
Yep, most baseball fans has seen a lot of dramatic, unexpected comebacks. The "unwritten rules" that ignore that comebacks are a real thing are the dumbest rules imo. That and the way teams act like a bunt or piddly hit late in the game that spoils a no-hitter is somehow grounds for a beanball war. No team should just roll over and accept defeat or take being no-hit.
Still remember a game in 2011 between the D-Backs and Dodgers where the score was tied 1-1 after 9 innings. The Dodgers scored 5 runs in the top of the 10th and then had the D-Backs at 2 outs with no one on base. The D-Backs barely beat the throw for an in field hit and then proceeded to score 6 runs topped off by a walk off grand slam. You just never really know when it comes to baseball.
you need to react to “The Code - the unwritten rules of fighting and retribution in ice hockey” by the same channel it explains a lot of questions i’ve seen you guys have about hockey
Most of these are pretty accurate, but the no swinging at the first pitch after back to back homeruns "rule" is not something I've ever heard of. I think it's fair to say that one is off -- it's not a thing.
Also, the centerfielder catching the ball isn't an unwritten rule. It's just general best practice to have an understanding that certain players have certain authority in the field. Centerfielders are generally the captian of the outfield and if he says he's got it, the other outfielders will defer to him.
As far as the unintentional hit batter is concerned, no pitcher is perfect and even the best pitchers will have a pitch get away from them every now and then. I don't think it's totally accurate to say you should expect retaliation even if it was an accident. I think there's a general understanding if the hit-by-pitch was intentional or not based on history, the score, and the game situation. Most players and coaches will brush off an accidental hit batter. They will make it well known if they think it was on purpose.
Lastly, I want to note that many of these unwritten rules are changing with the younger generation of players that have come up in recent years. Especially ones regarding showboating -- bat flips and dancing and things like that. The game had become a grumpy old man sport and is now starting to embrace the young kids who just want to have fun and show emotion without actually offending anybody.
Some center fielders need to know when to lay off. When the center fielder is catching the ball where the left or right fielder is playing and hasn't moved... that is a just being a dick.
I think the back to back home run rule is rare enough that we'd never know if it got invoked. On the unintentional hit batter, I think the actual unwritten rule is the pitcher admits if a hit is intentional or not. If you hit a guy to send a message or for retaliation, you own up to it. You don't say so to the ref, but you make sure the other team gets the message, and you don't feign innocence.
@@Mauther I think it's fairly easy to tell whether or not a batter drilling was intentional or not. The reactions of the pitcher usually tell all. Namely their initial reaction and how they pitch after that. Usually if they meant to do that, they have absolutely no issue bringing the pitch in close to the batter again and again, because they don't care about drilling the batter. If it was an accident then they're usually a little shaken up; even if they're a pro. Pitching 90+MPH within 1 ft of a person suddenly seems really difficult with the anxiety you're feeling.
I'm only speaking from experience in Soccer. You feel pretty good with your slide tackle but the moment you get a janky one and take someone out and they go out on a stretcher because of you and you never meant that to happen, suddenly you really don't want to slide tackle anymore. However, if it's someone you really don't like or you're just too into the game, you kind of don't care and would gladly do it again. Your intent definitely shows in you after the fact.
I love Mike's accent he clips every word I can barely understand WTF he is saying ? It's like a buzz vs a sentence ? It's like a hynn vs an actual language He sounds like a bee ? 😂 I have to listen so closely luv it. Is he speaking English ! fabulous Don't stop
Never thought about etiquette until a Brit who doesn't play the game points it out Hysterical if you ask me? Got luv the Brits seriously
Can you react to "MLB Inside The Park Home Runs Compilation" by Made the Cut or "MLB Players Stealing Home!" by MLB? Inside-the-park home runs and stealing home are two of the most exciting offensive plays in baseball, and those compliations have great highlights of both plays!
Stealing home is not gonna do it for them. Sorry bro. You need a deeper knowledge to appreciate it.
@@ryantwitter343 Its wild to think someone can steal home.
@@hifijohn if you know where home is… my point was that something like catches may be better appreciated since stealing home requires a good knowledge of the game to get full excitement out of.
Been a baseball fan for over 50 years and I have never heard of the don't swing at pitch after back to back home runs. As for bunting during a no hitter I'm going to swing away. In today's social media you would be labeled a dick for life and would be risking your health if you were successful
When do put the rule into effect? 6th? 7th? 8th? Last out in the 9th? hahahaha...
@@david-1775 Usually it’s if the game is basically out of reach, if the pitcher is in his groove it’s very likely that he can continue his historic pace. Bunting during a no hitter/perfect game is like touching a painting very quickly while no one is looking with a sign in front of it that’s says no touching like ooo ur so cool for getting ur bunt down for the one hit in a 7-0 game
If a guy is struggling and throwomg meat Im swinging. Never heard of that rule. In the Minors or Little League then fair, but in the Bigs F U.
Some of these are just baby rules. Who doesn't want to dismantle the opponent late in a game where you're down by a few and need a mental edge to get back in the game? That rule where you don't swing at a pitcher's first throw after back to back HR is just ridiculous. I'd make it 3 in a row and wave em bye.
I grew up playing and watching baseball and I agree with none of these. These are just benign issues that have become excuses to fight. Things happen in the heat of competition. You can't control how your opponents want to interpret your actions, and often these things are done intentionally to rile both your team and the other team. The only retaliation for perceived disrespect is to throw at players intentionally. When that happens, even on accident, players sort it out with their fists like they do more commonly in ice hockey. That is the real unwritten rule of North American sports. We're delicate and we like to fight because it adds more adrenaline to proceedings. I've seen basketball fights, soccer fights, tennis fights, golf fights, chess fights. It's doesn't matter. For many of us, competition means the stakes are always the highest they can be.
I almost hesitate to ask, but...Chess fights?
If you guys wanna see the best argument of ALL TIME between a manager/coach and an Umpire, watch Earl Weaver vs Umpire
My university had "No Hitter Day" when admission to a baseball game was free to support Child Abuse Prevention. It was interesting that the score ended up being a landslide in my school's favor.
Mike needs to watch "Baseball's Greatest Crowd Reactions".. He will see why we love baseball..
Plss
@@ericayala7387 deep reply..you should join a debate team.
@@michaelb.3982 I already was on one actually
@@ericayala7387 Baseball is much better than Soccer or Rugby ..Euro sports are lame.
OB Mike born on Friday the 13th explains it all 🤣
Easy Brett 🤣🤣
A “No-Hitter” or a “Perfect Game” are so rare, and so prized as historical accomplishments in baseball ⚾️, that “bunting” to try to get a hit after going all game trying and failing to get a hit honesty by swinging, just comes off as a bitch move. It’s looked down upon by home and away fans. Because you really didn’t “earn it”, but got a fluke hit on a technicality, robbing a pitcher out of what should have been a historical accomplishment, just because you weren’t good enough to hit his stuff.
Most of those are true. The one about not swinging on the first pitch after two home runs is something I never heard of. The others are pretty accurate.
The thing about “not running up the score” in baseball is because there is no clock. Theoretically a game can be played forever so like they say “the other team basically concedes and just wants to get out of there” if you’re good enough and there’s no mercy rules, you could LITERALLY make them stay there indefinitely and just keep enduring it. Baseball is different than every other major sport in that way as there’s no clock.
There was a Cincinnati Reds coach named Sparky Anderson. He regularly would argue with the umpires and kicking dirt on them. Today, it would probably get him ejected. He was a great coach that used those confrontations to fire his team up.
These players are also playing for career stats homeruns, RBI'S, base stealing, etc.
The Terry Collins clip when Syndergaard was tossed is a Classic. The video is on YT the whole profanity laced explosion was all caught on the crew chiefs mic . It's great
famous Hallion /Collins blow up ,a classic.
our asses are in the jackpot.
If the pitcher starts his foot in a forward motion he has to follow through with the pitch he cant then turn to a base to try and get someone out.
Actor Chuck Connors played pro baseball and basketball and once did cartwheels around the bases after hitting a home run.
Must watch the movie Bull Durham when Crash (Kevin Costner) argues with the umpire. Just a classic scene.
The short of base stealing is once the ball is live or the game is in play, so to say, then stealing is allowed but is a risk. Once the ball is dead (the play ends) you're not allowed to proceed or attempt to proceed through the bases. The ball essentially is live once the umpire says it is. Normally the conditions are is if the pitcher is on their mound, the batter is in their box, the catcher is squatted down, and the umpire is ready to officiate. But that's why you don't see runners just keep running as the pitcher is getting ready and the fielders are passing the ball back to the pitcher. The ball is dead at that point and they cannot even attempt to steal legally (weird thing to say even in context.)
Screw that! You do what ever you can to break up that no hitter (within the rules of course)…that's part of what makes a no hitter so special.
I think an MBL pitcher throwing a no hitter would be like a soccer goalie rejecting 20 shots on goal, while kicking the game winner from the other side of the field for a 1-0 win.
the reason bunting a no hitter is seen a bad form is because all bunts are usually used to move a runner up the bases with a sacrifice
--a correct bunt causes the ball to drop right in front of home plate and the catcher and the bunter usually gets out at first base
I disagree Daz, you shouldn’t bunt to ruin a no-hitter and here’s why: because there are only very few situations where bunting is considered viable such as runners on 1st and 3rd with 0 or 1 out. By definition, if a guy is mid no-hitter, there is nobody on base, and bunting with nobody on base will result in you getting out 90%+ of the time. So you’re not actually trying to win the game you’re just trying desperately to ruin someone’s stats without actually trying to win the game. It’s like plowing through the line to block an extra-point in NFL just to ruin the kicker’s 100% PAT rating even though there’s 3 seconds left and you’re down by 24. There’s just no reason for it except to be a C U Next Thursday.
There most certainly can be a runner on 1st mid no hitter. Walk, HBP, uncaught 3rd strike, error
Runners advance, after a hit. If you advance a base between hits. This is stealing. As the runner is always required to leave first base, for a new runner to arrive.
So when you leave in between hits and you are not required to, that is when you call it stealing
Bunting in a No-Hitter is a scale for sure. If it's a late inning and a close game, you play to win even if you don't like it. If it's the 5th inning, or you're down 3+ late, or it's a Perfect Game in progress, you definitely don't bunt.
Hey guys. I have been in that situation in various leagues (as a teen not a pro) where there was a pitcher throwing a no hitter or a perfect game. I would attempt a bunt or tell someone else to earlier in the game. Like maybe in the 6th inning or so. Just remove that possibility. As far as throwing at someone, it used to be typical if your best player got hit, their best player better not dig in too deep when he came to bat. Or back before Designated Hitters when pitchers had to bat, if the other pitcher hit one of your guys, you (if you were pitching) would knock that pitcher down when he came to bat. No matter what the score trying to hit a home run is fine. Thats your job and also one of the things that determine what your salary might be on your next contract. Stats are important. By the way, the guy in blue who got blasted in the face by that punch, is one of the cheapest, dirtiest and biggest trash talking showboats in the game. I feel like stealing when you are up big (or bunting) is cheap, by everything is fine to do when you are behind. You are trying to get back in the game after all.
The announcer made an all time call when Odor smacked Bautista
Every European needs to watch the movie, "Bull Durham". It will teach you everything you need to know about American baseball. And it's Kevin Costner...so it's good.
Some of those are real, some I’ve never heard of. Still baseball is an old ass game and they have old timey unwritten rules. That’s why I love it!
When you all get the gaming channel up and running you ought to play some sport games you’re not too familiar with like MLB but I’m sure you all plan to do that anyway.
Late comment but there was a time that I intentionally hit 3 batters in a row because their team stole a base when they were up 9 runs with 2 innings left. My coach called a timeout to talk to me after the first one and asked if that was the reason. I said "yes" and he responded with "good job". After I hit the next two he just gave me a thumbs up. If we were any older, I probably would have been thrown out of the game, but since we were young enough (13-14), they just thought I was inaccurate............Also, baseball is the most superstitious sport in existence. In a game where a 30% success rate gets you into the Hall of Fame, people try to boost their luck any way imaginable. I know people who have driven exact routes to a field, switching lanes at exact times in order to preserve their luck
Oh sh!t I lost it when Dave wanted to see a hitter moon walk through all the bases after hitting a homer.
FYI just so you understand the the difference between a no hitter and a perfect game, when a pitcher throws a no hitter no batter gets a hit against him. BUT batters can still reach base on a walk, a fielding error, a passed ball, or by being hit by a pitch. It’s still a great accomplishment but in every season you see a few no hitters across Major League Baseball. Much harder is the perfect game. In the Perfect Game a pitcher does not allow any batter to first base. 27 batters come up to bat and the pitcher gets all 27 of them out. This is rare. You may get one of these every few years.
That last one isn't an unwritten rule. That's just being a decent human
A couple of mistakes: 1) Accidental hit-by-pitch happens a lot. Pitchers aren't *that* in control of their pitches that accidental HPBs are rare. Especially if a pitcher is aiming for the inside part of the plate, throwing "up and in," accidents happen all the time. 2) It's not an unwritten rule center fielders catch the ball, and it has nothing to do with personal statistics. The CF can "call off" the right fielder or left fielder if a ball is headed between them. This is important because the the CF and RF (or CF and LF) will both be watching the ball and not the other man. If both men call "I got it" the CF gets it. The same is true of the middle infielders: the shortstop can call off the third baseman, the second baseman can call off the first baseman. Between the SS and 2B there is no hard-and-fast rule; usually the more veteran player has authority. Outfielders call off infielders, since they have the ball in front of them and have the best chance to make a catch. Last rule: pitchers never catch pop-ups; they're presumed to be good for only one thing and that's throwing the ball, so they always defer to the nearest infielder or the catcher.
Baseball in person is one of the best sports to watch.
Followed baseball my whole life. Never heard of number 4
When ur homie in a pinch you leave the goddamn bench
Poor Daz. Trying to explain baseball to other Brits. LMAO!
I think you blokes would enjoy the video about the longest baseball game ever played.
Thank god these 'unwritten rules' are under fire this year. Win big, don't let up, be better from the first pitch to the last. Teams come back all the time.
During a possible no hitter it’s only the bunt which is considered poor form. If you hit a homer, or any other hit, fair game.
Also, all players & fans from both sides admire & (possibly secretly) celebrate a no hitter. ❤
This situation never came up when I played ball in high school, but that's correct. If you're winning by a large margin, don't be unsportsmanlike about it. We all have our bad days.
I've heard of don't swing at the first pitch after giving up 2 home runs
One thing you have to understand about baseball players is that generally, they are a different breed from other people, or even athletes in other sports. And among baseball players, pitchers are somewhat of a different breed, and among pitchers, relief pitchers are the different breed. It's difficult to explain exactly what this means, you just have to have watched baseball for a long time to know what I'm talking about.
MLB reactions are my fave. Thanks!
I’m sure these rules are tongue in cheek. Lol
These “rules” are so personalized people only care about them if it helps their cause
They also have a perfect game. 27 up 27 down with no walks
The centerfielder catching the ball isn't really an unwritten rule... it's just baseball strategy. There needs to be a hierarchy in the outfield to prevent two players from going for the same ball and running into each other. If the centerfielder calls for the ball, he overrules the other two outfielders.
The bunt rule with a no-hitter i agree is an unwritten rule, but only if the game is a blowout where a team is up by 5+ runs.
As someone who played baseball for most of their life, I personally disagree with most of the unwritten rules and feel like a lot of them prevent the game from being as popular as it could be. Especially those “rules” that try to police the etiquette of the game and discourage showboating and other things that I think just make the game more fun and competitive.
shit I only commented half way into the video had to make another, Pitchers accidentally hitting people happens in almost every game. It happens sometimes the pitcher lost his grip or tried to through an inside fastball. The first year I played baseball, I'm 8 mind you. I set the league record for most people hit at 16. Even when you grow up and become a pro, that shit happens all the time. I'd say at least 95% of beaned balls were totally on accident. And everyone knows it, and nothing happens except the batter being pissed because that hurt.
I understand why the bunting thing during a no hitter is what it is, because it sorta means "in theory", that you wanna man up and swing for a solid base hit (even a homer)
But with that said, I'm all fine for bunting as bunting has pretty much always been part of the game. The bunt has actually diminished a lot in today's game, and strategically speaking, I'd say go for the bunt. And if you do, better succeed or the batter looks kinda worse
Most of these unwritten rules are there to avoid fights and retaliation. When I was in High School we played our neighboring school at the end of the season (not a rivalry, just close proximity). Wouldn't effect the standings (we were way ahead and already into the playoffs, they were not and couldn't qualify) so our coach made a deal with the other coach that if the game was out of reach, we were going to let our equipment manager pitch an inning. He was a really nice kid named Donnie, had Downs Syndrome and never got to play. So we crushed them in the first 6 innings, our pitcher was insane and went on to play for UT. We were up first, so our coach notified the other coach we'd be putting Donnie in, and he agreed. So our three batters went up and fell on their swords (2 dinks and 1 strike out). Their first batter came up and did a great job "struggling" to hit Donnie's 55 mph fastball, going down swinging. The crowd went wild, both dugouts cheered, Donnie was having the time of his life. Second dude took the plate, and just smashed the sh%t out of the first pitch. Cleared the wall by a good 40 feet. Did his circuit skipping and hooting and clapping to the fans. He scored the point, but never crossed home. I was playing catcher, and when he was approaching home I laid him out. From what I am told, it was a near perfect spearing. While everyone was gathered around me, screaming and yelling, our third baseman Hector just stomped the ever living (bleep) out of the runner. Both Hector and I were ejected, I missed 2 games, Hector missed 5.
If I catch a foul ball or a homerun from the air or on a bounce and there are no kids going after it, I'm keeping it. I've dreamt of doing it since I was kid and never have. But if in the scrum of reaching for a ball on the ground, a kid is involved, then you give it to the kid.
In HS there is a mercy rule, if your team is up by a very large number after a certain number of innings the game is called finished.
People will disagree with me but I think MLB should also have a Mercy Rule.
One of my favorite OB videos. Daz is my spirit animal. Love y’all.
okay he's a bit off about the drilling thing. You never ever go for the head, because someone could get really hurt and now the other team will want to kill you more then otherwise. You throw at their ass or lower back. It will still hurt like hell but no one is injured.
One unwritten rule: the pitcher doesn't apologize for hitting a batter. He's not being a dick, and it doesn't mean it was deliberate. It just rarely happens, and only if a hitter is badly hurt and a pitcher is despondent and feels awful about what happened -- it goes without saying in those cases it was an accident. The majority of hit-by-pitches are accidents.
I've been watching baseball for nearly 40 years. Haven't heard of half of these unwritten rules, lol.
Baseball players are the twitchiest, fidgetiest, and most superstitious athletes in the world. Most of a 3-hour game they are just sitting in the dugout with all this pent-up energy, so they are constantly spitting, and eating sunflower seeds, chewing gum (used to be tobacco). They have specific bats and gloves and all sorts of OCD rituals before they come to the plate, and after guys hit home runs etc.. I think there are more arcane rituals in an average MLB game than there are in the Catholic Church.
The biggest unwritten rule is about the ball and who gets it. It’s dooshbaggery to take the ball or deny the ball to a child. That’s fuggin’ sick anywhere...probably deadly at some venues too! Any time a child’s experience can be supported, it’s the right time.
Yes I think we all know what ballhawk is guilty of that.
No bunting during a No Hitter only really is a thing in the 8th or 9th inning when you re getting killed. You have to remember that there are 162 games in a season and most games are boring so when a guy is on a no-no it is a big deal. However, if its a 1-0 game in a no-no and the pitcher walked a guy you can bunt him over to 2nd.
Also, show up umps whenever you can.
Not bunting during a no-hitter: This is because bunts are seen as a cheap way to get a hit, and more importantly, a very anti climactic way to end something special the pitcher is doing. You can do it before the 7th inning, but once it gets to that final stretch, it's just good sportsmanship to earn your hit with solid contact instead of trying to sneak one in just to ruin the pitcher's accomplishment.
No stealing a base while down: While down *BIG*, is the missing word there. If a team is down by a couple of runs, a steal is always acceptable. If a team is down by 8 runs, there's an unspoken agreement that, to save everyone's time (including the fans'), the pitcher won't waste time trying to pick off the runner and the runner won't steal. It's also not in the best interest of the runner to want to steal from a strategic standpoint, because it's too risky to get caught and their team needs a bunch of hits with guys on base if they're going to make a comeback anyway. However, if the runner does steal, he's taking advantage of the agreement because the pitcher wasn't even trying to stop him (in order to save everyone's time and get on with the game). So in this case, the base runner is padding his own stats with a free steal which is not a good look.
No walking on the mound: This is mostly a respect thing, and partially to keep players from messing with the pitchers' mound. The pitchers spend a little time moving dirt to feel comfortable planting their foot during a pitch and they don't want some guy who just made an out to kick dirt all over the mound as they walk from the bases back to the dugout.
Don't walk in front of the catcher/umpire: Long story short, there's a few reasons it started, but it's mostly tradition at this point. Batters just don't do it. And if a batter does do it, the pitcher will probably wonder if the batter is trying to insult him or if he's just stupid.
Sweet, I recommended this on the last baseball vid
Edit: Some seem real silly but its been engrained in the culture and is just part of the game. Flipping the bat, or standing there to watch a homerun leave are the real big ones. Its very respect based
It's funny. It doesn't matter if it's little League or major League. Players never step on the caulk lines going on or coming off the field. It's never told yet every player does it.
You can try to advance a runner (steal a base) without the ball being hit into play. For example, you'll see base runners take a lead to get a jump on heading to the next base if there is a hit, but they'll also use that as an opportunity to steal the next base if the pitcher isn't paying attention as he's preparing to make a pitch, or if the ball is pitched and the catcher has trouble handling it, or the base runner is speedy and fancies his chances.
To Daz, the thing about bunting on a no hitter is that the only reason to do it is to F with the pitcher because you have no others on base and it doesnt serve as an advantage. So all it does it ruin the pitchers stats and doesnt help your team at all.
So it's not your pitcher and it's not your job to help his stats
@@elvangulley3210 yeah but its still a dck move 🤷♂️
The old joke is all pitchers are aiming for the ump but the batter and catcher keep getting in the way.
Will Daz's competitive nature be the downfall of The Blokes?
Find out on Office Blokes Game! Seriously tho....go easy Daz, we love this channel. 😉
Daz's laugh cracks me up, but I don't think I'd enjoy having him in my Friday night softball league.
Love it when you guys react to baseball! Baseball players are the most superstitious athletes around. More MLB please!
Do the hockey video called “the code”. It’s about fights in hockey.
11:25 its hard to compare sport to sport. I would say pitching nine innings of shutout baseball is equal to a keeper having a clean sheet. A no hitter goes beyond that though and is harder to do. Maybe something like the team going a full 90 and not letting the opponent have one shot on goal the entire match.
Check out the story about the Pirates pitcher in the 70s who threw a no hitter on acid
A big reason for all these unwritten rules is the insane length of the baseball season. They play 162 games a year, and almost every day from April to October, and that's not counting post season. The amount of time these guys spend, not only with each other, but with their opponents, coaches/managers and even umpires is unmatched in professional sports. So, they are much more inclined to take small slights and perceived disrespect personally. So many of them also have insane memories - usually honed by years of recalling and analyzing pitch counts, patterns, individual and team stats etc. Often times, the "retaliation" for perceived slights happens weeks or even seasons later - especially personal ones. Team ones tend to happen in the same game or within the same series (most teams play each other in successive days...usually 3-4 at a time).
One more thing. While these unwritten rules certainly still exist. Younger players are ignoring or changing them more and more (leading to more retaliation in the short term, but I suspect many of these to be gone within a generation). Baseball has a reputation for being old, stodgy and slow. I love it, but even I can recognize that the game needs to change to retain, let alone regain popularity. Younger fans LIKE the show-boating and the celebrations. Those who complain about it can't help but seem out of touch - be they players, managers or fans.
5:30 Bunting and stealing when behind by a large margin is not something I’ve heard being frowned upon.
The reason you're not supposed to steal bases or bunt with a big lead isn't to avoid running up the score. Those are one-run strategies, where you risk making an out in exchange for increasing your chance of scoring a single run. The reason these things are frowned upon with a big lead is that it looks like you're just trying to make yourself look good instead of trying to win the game. Note that it's not against any unwritten rule to keep trying to score runs, for instance, to hit a home run with a seven-run lead in the 8th inning.
The bit about not swinging at the first pitch after back-to-back home runs is fantasy. There is no such unwritten rule.
Some of these rules are cultural. In some countries, especially the Spanish-speaking countries like Dominican Republic and Venezuela, they don't see anything wrong with celebrating after a home run.
Retaliation is usually against the player who broke the unwritten rule, not just against the next batter. I have seen games where someone steals a base with a big lead, and they have waited for that player to come to bat again to throw at him. Sometimes if the infraction happens late in the game, they'll retaliate during the next game.
Generally speaking, throwing at a batter's head is considered out of bounds. Retaliation pitches are often thrown at the legs or lower torso. If a pitcher really wants to send a message, he'll throw a pitch behind the batter, which makes it obvious that it was on purpose. Hitting a batter in the head is really dangerous.
What's worse than talking to a pitcher during a no-hitter is mentioning to anyone that a no-hitter is going on. Everyone on the team is supposed to act like it's a normal game for fear of jinxing it.
It's not true that teams will retaliate for an accidental hit-by-pitch. Retaliation only happens if they believe the hit-by-pitch was deliberate. Being hit by pitches every so often is just part of the game, and it usually doesn't happen on purpose.
Most baseball "brawls" consist of players grabbing each other and milling around. An actual brawl where everyone is really fighting everyone else is unusual, and it's really ugly when it does happen.
I feel y'all may enjoy going to hockey games. Quicker game, more action, less down time. Just a thought
A player that moonwalks around the bases after a homerun will get a pitch in the head his next time up. Maybe his next 2 or 3 times up. Not talking to a pitcher that's throwing a no hitter is an individual thing. If you know your pitcher doesn't like it, you don't. Some pitchers don't mind at all.
Bat flipping. I think pitchers are wayyyyy too sensitive on this. It is one thing to look right at the pitcher and then flip the bat it is another thing to get a go ahead HR or one that ties it up and flip the bat while you are looking at your dugout. I also wouldn't stand there and flex in the 4th inning when the score is 5-3, that is a bit douchy as well.
You can bunt the ball but your teammates will suffer the consequences
You can do it. But you are not a real man anymore, and all of your teammates are fair game, if you do. Especially 7th inning and later. Nobody cares if you bunt in the 3rd inning to break up a no hitter.
Like everyone else…I’ve never heard of the first pitch after a back-to-back. That’s not even up for debate, cuz it’s not a thing.
The crossing of the line between pitcher and catcher is iffy, also
I wish I was a baseball manager just so I could make my team the Raiders of the MLB; just win baby.
So I played (American) football growing up which is obviously a full contact, aggression heavy sport but I saw my brother get in far more fights at his baseball games than I ever did
In regards to the conversation about bunting during a no-hit bid, there's another factor to consider: if your team is being no hit, your team is also likely losing by a good margin. If you were to bunt ONLY to take away the no-hit bid, then it's seen as you being a dickhead especially because there's not much chance for your team to win. Just getting on first base is not enough to spark your team to a comeback 99.999999999% of the time, so it's seen as a personal jab or attack on the pitcher themselves in order to prevent them from recording a stat that is, for many players, a once in a lifetime opportunity
@4:00 screw that. You don't take your foot off the pedal till the other team has zero chance of winning.
I agree with not showboating when you hit a home run while being way behind, but the team shouldn't give up. Saying they shouldn't try to come back (steal bases, move runners) is ludicrous.
First rule of baseball if your sitting in the stands pay attention!! Because foul balls come at you over 100mph