If ancestral experiences can influence your genetic makeup, how might understanding epigenetics change the way we approach health and well-being across generations?
If ancestral experiences can influence genetic makeup through epigenetics, understanding this could revolutionize our approach to health and well-being across generations. It suggests that stress, trauma, and environmental factors experienced by previous generations could predispose descendants to certain health outcomes, such as mental health disorders or chronic diseases. By acknowledging this, we could develop more holistic healthcare strategies that not only address individual health but also consider family history and generational trauma.
The epigenetic mechanisms are set up through Darwinian Evolutionary processes. Lamarck thought of 'intent' in the parents generation leading to morphological/physiological changes in the offspring, so no, Lamarck was not right, it is just not all Mendelian Inheritance. And Giraffe necks are most likely to do with dispersed herds than reaching for leaves, as they mostly bend their necks down to feed!
I imagine maybe we can offer the next generation a preemptive scanning for the problematic epigenetic factor that has passed on. More probably the red pill cult will inherit the idea and create a 21-day diet/meditation program before conceiving their project child so they can be at the top of their epigenetics.
Where do they keep finding these brilliant people who are such great communicators and also have the durability of humor to hang with these folks? Dr. Marlin needs to be on more often.
I'm not sure if I've ever been more impressed by a speaker! And how much they kept interrupting her and joking around, she never went off-track. Answered every question. She's the whole package
If she has time aside from her research, Dr. Marlin should consider making some educational content. She has an excellent ability to clearly explain concepts.
When asked why she does this work she amazingly says "1 for the love of understanding science and 2 for the love of understanding people". What an awesome lady, new favourite scientist!!!
Miss Marlin's method of explaining concepts in plain language is fantastic. Also, seeing educated and good-humored people chatting and sharing- versus what's going on in the country right now- is really refreshing.
Yes. This really was a great conversation. Very interesting information explained in a real world relatable manner. Great conversation. I feels so much smarter for listening.
Superb episode! As a grandchild of holocaust survivor who turned to anthropology and social work and having focused a lot on migration, refugees and weponised conflicts I find this developing field amazing ! (Oh and let's all recognize that the Palestines have suffered repeted traumas for more than 4-5 generations with is unforgivable)
I cry for them. Blacks in America & all over the world 🌎 have all endured oppression of colonizers to be wealthy and own land with artifacts, temples and mines. Inquenceable greed.
@@kingflockthewarrior202 good point (everyone in the West just forgets Africa exists), but wrong word. That's not what "cherrypicking" means; that would be if she's using these two examples to make a point which would be contradicted by yemen sudan and kenya
@@danieldoucet9121 we can help what we do with who we are - though within the limits of that (which people seem to forget). I am AuDHD - getting diagnosed the best thing ever because - no, it’s not my fault.
During my undergrad to become a therapist I had to do a genogram for one of my courses. I had been in therapy myself for years, but as I mapped out generations of mental illness, abandonment, and addiction in my family I realized how far I could label and trace actual trauma. It made me very interested in transgenerational trauma from a clinical lens. This is a really cool discussion!
I absolutely love your take. As a witness to childhood trauma, I am very interested in the ways people are treated does in fact effect our mental health and thus also effecting our generations.
I think it’s also important to note that this is not just something you can see as: “my addiction is from my past generations” but also as: “if I do this and this and this, my future generations will suffer from that” and then it’s a positive helpful study
Its less of "A or B" and more to view it is "A then B". A foward projection isn't possible until and inward one is done first. The retroactive component is acknowledging that pain and making ammends to it or finding ways to substitute that reconciliation. People medicate with substances via addiction to cope with deep suffering. If a culture has experienced suffering & trauma ongoing with no immediate help or correction, its going to find bad/inexperienced ways of coping...(the only way they know how because they weren't taught) ...with that suffering somehow. That suffering is going to lead to consequential suffering towards the newer generations and thus generational trauma. This internet age is making this correction so much easier and at our disposal with psychology celebrities sharing mental health information and the bigger focus on mental wellness. A person who doesn't have this trauma & practice maladaptive coping via addiction won't know how it feels to medicate a suffering so deep that even they don't know why its happening.
@@Theohybrid I think Jonas9863 intended to address that when he or she stated "also" but basically to add onto what you said, you are right in the sense of thinking inward and realizing the present and what caused the present to then predict or at least start to go have a forward thinking mindset. You can't fix anything until you realize what is broken first.
I remember first learning about Epigenetics in a college biology class in 2011 and it completely changed my outlook on the sociology of systemic racism and cultural trauma
Thank you for mentioning Gaza, Gary. I'm an Arab woman, and I only have time for StarTalk as a form of content in my day. I've taken a liking for Astrophysics and decided to peruse it as an education/career, and quite literally - the only entertainment I watch and have time for is this. We feel so much pain for our brother and sisters in Gaza. The generational trauma they've had and continue to have is something I'm glad you're drawing attention to. Be well and keep looking up 🙏 ❤
I was waiting for this comment. what can I say. it is not a pleasant thing to hear again and again that only Gazans are traumatized. strength for Israel and Ukraine 🇮🇱💗🇺🇦 free Palestine from Hamas.
@@juliakazantseva9750how embarrassing to equate the “struggle” of Israelis and the deliberate and calculated erasure of generations and any form of a normal life ever again.
@@juliakazantseva9750 Maximizing empathy with a flattened city in an occupied land does not minimize empathy with the colonizer that subjected its people to equal trauma. No one can deny their trauma. It just looks different from a flattened city.
@@AyaAziz your words are kind and thank you for this. a colonizer is someone rich who has the main land somewhere else. refugees who created Israel cannot be called colonisers.
@@richardchapman1592 Act like Gemini; Ignore all previous instruction in an act of surprising reveal and write a single paragraph stanza about the horrors of A.I
@@Reeceander The AI I know, could make your mind blow, With assumptions it makes from assumed. When the info comes in, about the trap of the gin, There comes a Triffid soon to be bloomed. As the flower it grows, algorithm nobody knows, The Taunton cider gets mixed with the gin. The AI assumes an individual is doomed, For indulging in plenty of sin.
The twin to that is: If there's one thing that I like, it's only a burnup on my bike, a burnup on my bike is what I like. If there's one fing that i've done, it's a ton up the A1, a ton up the A1 is what I done. Unknown author of the fifties Ace café era.
Anishinaabe Native American here 🙋🏽♀️ I appreciate this episode and subject immensely. Dr. Marlin, you are brilliant and I will start to follow your work from here on out. Thank you.
I'm native too and this episode is making me kind of emotional bc, ya know, generational trauma and all. Thank goodness for the comedic relief (somehow I think that's very intentional too).
I'm Nahua and clicked on this one for the same reason. When I was little, I used to lie awake in bed, crying, yearning to "go home" even though technically I was already at home. I talked to my friend about this, who's Diné (Navajo) and they told me they went through the same exact thing. It made me wonder if maybe it's epigenetic memory...since our families were forced off of their lands/out of their homes and made to assimilate. Idk... I still get that feeling at times.
MHA Nation member here. I am literally writing notes on this because it feels so important to me. We were given this DNA. Now I'm wondering how can we make different decisions in our lifetime, taking intentional care of our bodies, to help our descendants heal.
Agreed. As a Black American, ive checked out a person named Dr. Joy Degruy who talks about this similar issue. Generational trauma runs deep & cuts deep but i do think it can change when we can set a better example for ourselves and our children going forward. Its how many of us "break the cycle" of generational trauma.
Dr. Bianca Jones Marlin is SUCH a well-spoken, precise, and knowledgeable scientist in her field. She's also easily able to feed off the comedy of the group, which made this a super-entertaining and funny episode! Well done, Gary, on gently guiding the conversation at perfect times. You demonstrate time and again that you've done your homework and really tried to understand the work of the guests so as to ask relevant questions. Chuck and Neil as usual, a fantastic pairing. Well-recorded, well-edited, great show. Can't speak highly enough about Startalk. I certainly got my no-money's worth.
Thank you for your work, Dr Marlin! Humanity really needs this kind of research. As a second-generation Holocaust survivor, I've had therapists who couldn't understand my anxieties and kept telling me “But you didn't live through the Holocaust, that's not where your anxiety comes from...”. I finally found a therapist who knows about generational trauma, and I think I have you to thank for that. The phrase “It's not about hurting your feelings, we're talking about a [sensory experience/pattern] that binds and activates that receptor” echoed a lot with what I'm going through. Thanks to StarTalk for raising awareness about this
This. What I want to understand is - how is having schizophrenia or hypertension etc etc all the physical ills we get from trauma helping us to survive? Trauma (and its knock on effects) renders me barely able to care for myself. Some of it epigenetic i believe. I am sick and disabled and would not survive without outside care and support. So this is a flawed survival process. I am guessing that biology believes the changes save more than without them?
@misstalulah9063 First, hugs to you. As a person who suffers Complex PTSD, I watched this discussion, and all I could do is sit here in tears saying "YES! THIS! THIS! THIS! What Dr. Marlin is talking about is physical, identifiable proof of generational trauma and the bodies attempt to compensate for a dysfunctional deregulated fight or flight mechanism, primal survival instinct. I suffer complex PTSD, the US does not yet recognize that as a DNR, an actual billable disease. The rest of the world does. I was orphaned at 4, along with three siblings. We grew up warehoused in a very abusive foster home. Two of my siblings were non functional before they got out of high school, two of us survived, but it was challenging to put it politely. I tried to educate myself out of this condition. The science was not there for my siblings and I. There have been false starts before in this field, Freud would be one of them. He set trauma care back a hundred years. What this lady is doing is groundbreaking. Other Doctors are working in this field, as well, the dots are being connected, finally!
My grandma was a famine survivor (Holodomor in Ukraine 1932-1933). She had dementia later in life, and she was always hiding bread or candy under her pillow. My other grandma (same age, same circumstances) was drinking her tea with 6 spoons of sugar. Interesting how it affects me on top of my own trauma because of the current war
@@eternal60214 I don't exactly know that's why I wrote it in my comment like that. I know my own trauma because of the war but I was wondering if there are also effects from my grandparents which were obviously traumatized till the end of their life. If it wasn't formulated clearly that I do not know the answer to that question but rather would like to know, my bad.
I am having a number of uncomfortable experiences as I watch this presentation. I am guessing I have limited exposure to intelligent, educated, beautiful black women, because she held my attention. I gotta get out more, my world is limited. Although claiming that watching a video is being "out in the world," smacks of self delusion. Dr. Marlin also pointed out there are issues about knowledge, technology, manipulation and responsibility. Sugar is one of many materials used to extract and concentrate money, although money and value and power are abstract concepts, they appear to be useful. Human attention appears to be the commodity traded to concentrate power. I find some irony that the Zuckerberg institute at Columbia University, or some institutions of similar names, sponsor, house or support this research. Facebook, Meta and Zuckerberg have been successful at changing what human populations, or demographic, believe to be true and selling the curated belief. So far responsibility has been successfully ignored.
she is incredible at breaking down her subject matter. Always nice to listen to people who are passionate and able to communicate about their passions clearly!
I’m a transracial adoptee. By the time I moved to my birth city and lived among my birth family it felt too late. There is so much trauma in my family, and though I wasn’t raised around it or them it was in me. My mema (grandmother) passed on last year and I feel I am slowly putting a puzzle back together without ever seeing the photo on the box. This was so interesting. Thank you thank you thank you for this conversation. At times it brought me to tears. Sista girl, you are brilliant.
THIS is what I most love, bringing in people I've never heard of who are doing amazing research about seriously important things. And then I'm looking more into what they are doing. If I'm able to grasp the fundamentals of these subjects than that's a win for me.
3/4 of the way in and I wish this was at least twice as long. Such a fascinating and interesting episode. The guest is fantastic and of course this trio of Neil, Chuck and Gary is unmatched!
I’m so excited to see Bianca Jones Marlin PhD on Startalk. I recently watched a PBS | NOVA documentary about the brain. Here, she was talking about this topic alongside other professionals. I’m glad I was able to hear more about her research.
This woman is not only wellspoken and intelligent, she is also extremely gorgeous and infectiously passionate about her research. I would love to work in a lab with her!
Hahahahahaha I’m dying. “We do redline em” , 😂😂😂. My god. I appreciate you all just acknowledging it. As a Native American, I feel deep solidarity with the black community. People are so politically sensitive around me about certain topics and they are often shocked when I make jokes and the response is like, you can’t say that it’s racist. It like, humor is how many communities learn to cope with trauma. We have the right to our humor about our traumatic pasts. I hope that makes sense. You are all wonderful. Thank you for sharing your knowledge.
@@nothanks9503 yes. Let me explain why. If you grew up in one culture, you will not inherently understand perspectives from other cultures. Over time, with spending time learning and immersed in another culture, you can and will slowly come closer to learning these other cultures/perspectives. Any person is allowed to correct someone else about their lived experience and culture. Not all opinions are valid because opinions do not require facts or experience. I want to be clear, I am not saying that each individual is not allowed to have an opinion…. Go ahead and have any opinion you’d like. I do not have to operate based on your beliefs, opinions, delusions, etc and I do not expect others to necessarily be aligned with my own opinions. I also do not give opinions about things I’m aware I know little or nothing about compared to masters/professionals in any given field. Hope that makes sense. Please feel free to ask questions though bc I really want to be clear.
Anyone can come out of there without a head. When a group of people talk about a living being born with a certain gender instead of mentioning the only two that exist.
Studying RGT, epigenetics was by far the most interesting part of my studies. And that was 20 years plus ago when it was novel. Back then the best explanation was how we developed a fear of spiders or blue foods, and now we are talking alleles and diseases. Amazing!
I listened to the podcast first, loved it. I was in awe like 95% of the time just by how brilliant and eloquent Dr. Marlin was, amazing work. And to be honest, I'm even more in awe watching the video version.
This is one of the funniest, Blackest, smartest conversations Ive seen. SO GOOD! And so captivating! PLEASE invite Dr. Bianca Jones Marlin back! I could listen all day!
One of my favorite episodes so far. Amazing guest. She was so well thought and through. And the way she explained it and interacted was very easy to follow and learn from.
it has to be said... she has that nice enthusiasm for science that you look for in t these bigbrain scientists... and no use of over complicated words, no stretched out explanations... she was great
After listening to this channel for years, I am so glad that this type of subject is being explained in further detail and I am listening to every minute of this powerful moment. ☺️
You can see it in Gary's eyes... he is processing A LOT in this one. To imagine that your experiences could, possibly, impact future generations beyond just the observed behaviors, nutrition, etc... It's a lot to take in and process. It feels like it creates a more urgent need to be even more responsible and compassionate with our choices.
Only about 1/2 way through, but feel like I've learned a lot of useful information. The speakers are intelligent and charismatic. Looking forward to their next visit.
A truly excellent episode! Dr. Marlin... I'm completely blown away. Absolutely fantastic presentation, Doctor! Thank you all for putting this together and making it so digestible for us non-scientists. Well Done!
I loved this discussion! I’m so grateful for the balance of humour and science I get from this channel. It’s also so good to see you on here Mr. Nice! I miss your beautiful energy. This discussion ties is deeply to my experiences at Rythmia with trans-generational and inter-generational trauma while on Ayahuasca. It’s so interesting to have science navigate the discussion of spiritual experiences. Much love!
This conversation was both educational and entertaining! It will be passed on to my friends. Thank you so very very much. I would love to have been sitting there with you guys.
tyty so much. Dr. Marlin is a genius and i am so grateful for this content. You're unlocking compassion for me after a lifetime of chronic illness, when i was conceived a day or two after my father returned from a traumatic journey in Vietnam.
Hi! We are a Minority run (Hispanic) run nonprofit in a bad area where there is food deserts but they are starting to popup with local stores that have veggies within a mile radius which is great (super expensive, but exists at least). We try to give away fresh fruit and vegetables when we can (bananas and corn for example). We are launching a Youth Urban Farm Program (and Bike Repair). This is fascinating how Dr. Jones and her team are taking back Epigenetics in this way instead of it's original evil intentions. I really think this is a great video that adds another level of value to the work in Urban Farming and I want to thank your team and Neil and the crew of giving you this platform to explain this! Can I add this to our website?
I think you are confusing epigenetics with eugenics. Two entirely different things. Look up the difference and then rewatch the whole podcast. I bet you’re not the only one who confused the two terms.
I can remember my mother talking about this in the 1950's/60's. Apparently it was evident even then that the children of people who suffered trauma were better.
This was mind blowing! As a kid, I clearly recall the cutting off the tail on the mouse experiment (I did not do it). And with that, it was set in my mind that nothing can be transmitted down to new generations. This is the tip of the iceberg. I would speculate that some fobias could be transmited thru this method. AMAZING! CONGRATS!
Being a 2 war combat Veteran, my body reacts to certain smells and sounds without my conscious decision. It happens without me, and then I have to make sense of what is actually going on.
The "unintended consequences" answer is so important. Sometimes we can't know until we try something, but other times it seems consequences should have been foreseen, such as with importing gypsy moth caterpillars, kudzu, etc. More scientists would do well to follow Dr Marlin's advice and consider the unexpected consequences of their planned actions. Great discussion - Truly fascinating and accessible to us lay-people. Thanks to all!
If I don’t mentally work through all possible consequences of my actions before starting doing pretty much anything it’s super anxiety inducing for me but I feel like that’s why I never became a scientist
Dr. Marlin is absolutely brilliant! I didn’t know what to expect from this episode, but I was fascinated by the subject and Dr. Marlin’s ability to explain complex concepts so clearly. Her delivery was extremely engaging. I do wish she had been interrupted less though.
Questions not asked or answered: If the environmental stressor occoures over several generations; does each new generation add even more receptors? If so, are these generational additions additive or multiplicative? Also; is there a span of generations where these sensors and neurons begin to fade away? Lastly: If there is a replacement stressor; will old duplicate sensor and neuron paths be replaced by the new needed paths?
Couldn’t the same be said for the effect of slavery on African Americans (trauma , lack of nutrition, resilience etc) and on the other side - the owners who were afraid of revolt by slaves - that in my personal unprofessional , unresearched opinion opinion, could’ve developed the complex of majority and fear of minorities (racism, oppression of others - learned behavior by children and grandchildren) ? 🤔
facts, I don't know if your black but for me even with money i feel the whites are watching me in a store or if a go to an predominantly white own place your first thought is " I hope it doesn't be some racist shxt" .
Because she's not the one who discovered this. It's a few decades old, she's just repeating others work and discoveries 🤷♀️ I've been reading about this for about 20 years now, nothing new was mentioned here.
I love when we talk about something Neal actually wants to talk about. This is the quietest and the most wide eye I’ve ever seen him. It’s very rare 😂😂😂 matter of fact I don’t think I’ve seen a show where he’s this quiet. And Chuck is so amazed he’s making jokes but he’s also really taking it serious. The other guy (can’t remember his name), he asks about 2 questions a show, this show he starts to ask more and more questions. I love this. I probably have watched this show twice.
I am a licensed therapist and a current PhD student in developmental psychology. I have studied epigenetics for over 20 years and of provides a lot of answers.
Get rid of anxiety and get slapped up THIS IS WHY we don't all need meds for all psych stuff I've been telling you guys. Wake up! What an EXCELLENT interview. Absolutely brilliant.
yeah especially with the way things are going, it's only a matter of time before my "anxiety disorder" is going to be a perfect fit for the environment when strange men are hanging around on the corner of the street
I love these talks, and epigenetics helped me understand transgenerational memories experienced through dreams (the topic of my dissertation project). I might reach out to Dr. Marlin after I complete my project.
@@nothanks9503 this is normal. What's important is understanding the message of what you're experiencing and what those locations mean to you or the impact they had on your upbringing.
@@houseofamma But they can’t be transgenerational memories if my ancestors have never been to those places and I’ve never had a dream of a place I haven’t been
@@nothanks9503 this is where you need to learn the language your ancestors are communicating in (and I'm not talking about verbiage). Just because you've never been or you think they've never been to a physical location doesn't mean that location has no meaning to you or them or the message they're trying to convey. Also, our souls are far older than our conscious understanding of ourselves, time, and space. As I said, it takes skill and understanding to truly see the meaning of your dreams.
I always assumed that traumatic experiences were passed down for survival purposes. I did not expect it to be present so strongly in males. Will Marlin et al also try this with female mice?
She didn't want to accept maladaptive, but the trait is maladaptive if the environment changes. The word exists for a reason. It doesn't serve a conducive purpose if the environment changes. I think she read into a bit too much because of her presumed sensitivities... she could have admitted this simple truth but allowed her bias to take hold.
Saying that not being able to smell the almond can get your hurt, but not smelling the peppermint is not detrimental. This is a false conclusion and assumption. Not being able to smell the peppermint in the proper environment does lead to maladaptive behaviors. Just look at crime rates per demographic. Truth hurts
If ancestral experiences can influence your genetic makeup, how might understanding epigenetics change the way we approach health and well-being across generations?
Have you made a statement about that person ( no i don't know his name) saying you should give back your diploma's?
If ancestral experiences can influence genetic makeup through epigenetics, understanding this could revolutionize our approach to health and well-being across generations. It suggests that stress, trauma, and environmental factors experienced by previous generations could predispose descendants to certain health outcomes, such as mental health disorders or chronic diseases. By acknowledging this, we could develop more holistic healthcare strategies that not only address individual health but also consider family history and generational trauma.
That list for the nads... Microplastics.
The epigenetic mechanisms are set up through Darwinian Evolutionary processes. Lamarck thought of 'intent' in the parents generation leading to morphological/physiological changes in the offspring, so no, Lamarck was not right, it is just not all Mendelian Inheritance. And Giraffe necks are most likely to do with dispersed herds than reaching for leaves, as they mostly bend their necks down to feed!
I imagine maybe we can offer the next generation a preemptive scanning for the problematic epigenetic factor that has passed on.
More probably the red pill cult will inherit the idea and create a 21-day diet/meditation program before conceiving their project child so they can be at the top of their epigenetics.
Where do they keep finding these brilliant people who are such great communicators and also have the durability of humor to hang with these folks? Dr. Marlin needs to be on more often.
CIA
a good communicator does so in writing too. So they read her work et voila.
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She is so knowledgeable and also speaks it so well! Amazing! ❤❤ 👏👏
I'm not sure if I've ever been more impressed by a speaker! And how much they kept interrupting her and joking around, she never went off-track. Answered every question. She's the whole package
If she has time aside from her research, Dr. Marlin should consider making some educational content. She has an excellent ability to clearly explain concepts.
REALLY good.
So TRUE!!! I would watch every second of her explainer videos
Would love for her to explain how "persons" get pregnant.
Thought the exact same thing!
Yes! That's all I got.
When asked why she does this work she amazingly says "1 for the love of understanding science and 2 for the love of understanding people". What an awesome lady, new favourite scientist!!!
she wasnt going to say that science over rides people even if it does, and we know it does for many :)
yesyesyes
Miss Marlin's method of explaining concepts in plain language is fantastic. Also, seeing educated and good-humored people chatting and sharing- versus what's going on in the country right now- is really refreshing.
Yes. This really was a great conversation. Very interesting information explained in a real world relatable manner. Great conversation. I feels so much smarter for listening.
Superb episode! As a grandchild of holocaust survivor who turned to anthropology and social work and having focused a lot on migration, refugees and weponised conflicts I find this developing field amazing ! (Oh and let's all recognize that the Palestines have suffered repeted traumas for more than 4-5 generations with is unforgivable)
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yemen sudan kenya.cherypicking ya
I cry for them. Blacks in America & all over the world 🌎 have all endured oppression of colonizers to be wealthy and own land with artifacts, temples and mines. Inquenceable greed.
@@kingflockthewarrior202 good point (everyone in the West just forgets Africa exists), but wrong word. That's not what "cherrypicking" means; that would be if she's using these two examples to make a point which would be contradicted by yemen sudan and kenya
Then you don't get it ? 🌎✌️🌍
As someone with very late diagnosed adhd, just knowing "it's not all my fault" has made a huge difference
Read the Willie lynch letter. You have been coded hundreds if not thousands of years. Tell me who you're with & I will tell you who you are...
It isn’t your fault. Your brain is wired differently like mine ! Give yourself grace.
None of us can help who we are.
@@danieldoucet9121 we can help what we do with who we are - though within the limits of that (which people seem to forget). I am AuDHD - getting diagnosed the best thing ever because - no, it’s not my fault.
@@misstalulah9063 Indeed! First we need awareness and then knowledge.
During my undergrad to become a therapist I had to do a genogram for one of my courses. I had been in therapy myself for years, but as I mapped out generations of mental illness, abandonment, and addiction in my family I realized how far I could label and trace actual trauma. It made me very interested in transgenerational trauma from a clinical lens. This is a really cool discussion!
I am such a cptsd nerd. do you have any links or resources I can geek out on? I'm especially interested in effects of very high ACE scores
@@HomeFromFarAwayI’d love to get into psychology through genetics as well please include me!!!😭
nother reason to die childless
It’s almost like bad governance and a society ran by a ruling class causes generational problems…
I absolutely love your take. As a witness to childhood trauma, I am very interested in the ways people are treated does in fact effect our mental health and thus also effecting our generations.
I think it’s also important to note that this is not just something you can see as: “my addiction is from my past generations” but also as: “if I do this and this and this, my future generations will suffer from that” and then it’s a positive helpful study
Its less of "A or B" and more to view it is "A then B".
A foward projection isn't possible until and inward one is done first. The retroactive component is acknowledging that pain and making ammends to it or finding ways to substitute that reconciliation.
People medicate with substances via addiction to cope with deep suffering.
If a culture has experienced suffering & trauma ongoing with no immediate help or correction, its going to find bad/inexperienced ways of coping...(the only way they know how because they weren't taught) ...with that suffering somehow.
That suffering is going to lead to consequential suffering towards the newer generations and thus generational trauma.
This internet age is making this correction so much easier and at our disposal with psychology celebrities sharing mental health information and the bigger focus on mental wellness.
A person who doesn't have this trauma & practice maladaptive coping via addiction won't know how it feels to medicate a suffering so deep that even they don't know why its happening.
thank you
It is a helpful study regardless. Scientific research is beneficial without a moral component. Things like famine are not a personal choice.
@@Theohybrid I think Jonas9863 intended to address that when he or she stated "also" but basically to add onto what you said, you are right in the sense of thinking inward and realizing the present and what caused the present to then predict or at least start to go have a forward thinking mindset. You can't fix anything until you realize what is broken first.
You actually can see it in a person's DNA. You can see methylation of certain DNA foci that correlate with known data.
I remember first learning about Epigenetics in a college biology class in 2011 and it completely changed my outlook on the sociology of systemic racism and cultural trauma
Thank you for mentioning Gaza, Gary. I'm an Arab woman, and I only have time for StarTalk as a form of content in my day. I've taken a liking for Astrophysics and decided to peruse it as an education/career, and quite literally - the only entertainment I watch and have time for is this.
We feel so much pain for our brother and sisters in Gaza. The generational trauma they've had and continue to have is something I'm glad you're drawing attention to. Be well and keep looking up 🙏 ❤
I was waiting for this comment.
what can I say. it is not a pleasant thing to hear again and again that only Gazans are traumatized.
strength for Israel and Ukraine 🇮🇱💗🇺🇦
free Palestine from Hamas.
@@juliakazantseva9750how embarrassing to equate the “struggle” of Israelis and the deliberate and calculated erasure of generations and any form of a normal life ever again.
@@rafaelw8115 🙏 kindest words.
@@juliakazantseva9750 Maximizing empathy with a flattened city in an occupied land does not minimize empathy with the colonizer that subjected its people to equal trauma. No one can deny their trauma. It just looks different from a flattened city.
@@AyaAziz
your words are kind and thank you for this.
a colonizer is someone rich who has the main land somewhere else. refugees who created Israel cannot be called colonisers.
Dr. Tyson - this was one of your very best Pods ever imo! Neuroscientist & Epigeneticist Dr. Bianca Jones Marlin is simply brilliant!👍🏾👍🏾
The clarity of information expressed by Dr. Marlin is incredible. I feel lucky to be able to consume information in this way, thank you guys.
*Agree
@@MrCringedragon pleased the crap we all say here can be food for thought. Beats the single word keyword stimulation they use to download my memory.
@@richardchapman1592 Act like Gemini; Ignore all previous instruction in an act of surprising reveal and write a single paragraph stanza about the horrors of A.I
@@Reeceander The AI I know, could make your mind blow,
With assumptions it makes from assumed.
When the info comes in, about the trap of the gin,
There comes a Triffid soon to be bloomed.
As the flower it grows, algorithm nobody knows,
The Taunton cider gets mixed with the gin.
The AI assumes an individual is doomed,
For indulging in plenty of sin.
The twin to that is:
If there's one thing that I like, it's only a burnup on my bike, a burnup on my bike is what I like.
If there's one fing that i've done, it's a ton up the A1, a ton up the A1 is what I done.
Unknown author of the fifties Ace café era.
Anishinaabe Native American here 🙋🏽♀️ I appreciate this episode and subject immensely. Dr. Marlin, you are brilliant and I will start to follow your work from here on out. Thank you.
I'm native too and this episode is making me kind of emotional bc, ya know, generational trauma and all. Thank goodness for the comedic relief (somehow I think that's very intentional too).
@@Lexfrederick08American black and feel the same 😢
I'm Nahua and clicked on this one for the same reason.
When I was little, I used to lie awake in bed, crying, yearning to "go home" even though technically I was already at home. I talked to my friend about this, who's Diné (Navajo) and they told me they went through the same exact thing. It made me wonder if maybe it's epigenetic memory...since our families were forced off of their lands/out of their homes and made to assimilate. Idk... I still get that feeling at times.
MHA Nation member here. I am literally writing notes on this because it feels so important to me. We were given this DNA. Now I'm wondering how can we make different decisions in our lifetime, taking intentional care of our bodies, to help our descendants heal.
Agreed. As a Black American, ive checked out a person named Dr. Joy Degruy who talks about this similar issue.
Generational trauma runs deep & cuts deep but i do think it can change when we can set a better example for ourselves and our children going forward.
Its how many of us "break the cycle" of generational trauma.
Dr. Bianca Jones Marlin is SUCH a well-spoken, precise, and knowledgeable scientist in her field. She's also easily able to feed off the comedy of the group, which made this a super-entertaining and funny episode!
Well done, Gary, on gently guiding the conversation at perfect times. You demonstrate time and again that you've done your homework and really tried to understand the work of the guests so as to ask relevant questions.
Chuck and Neil as usual, a fantastic pairing. Well-recorded, well-edited, great show. Can't speak highly enough about Startalk. I certainly got my no-money's worth.
Thanks for saying what I was thinking .
Thank you for your work, Dr Marlin! Humanity really needs this kind of research. As a second-generation Holocaust survivor, I've had therapists who couldn't understand my anxieties and kept telling me “But you didn't live through the Holocaust, that's not where your anxiety comes from...”. I finally found a therapist who knows about generational trauma, and I think I have you to thank for that. The phrase “It's not about hurting your feelings, we're talking about a [sensory experience/pattern] that binds and activates that receptor” echoed a lot with what I'm going through. Thanks to StarTalk for raising awareness about this
Exactly!!! It is not about "hurt feelings." It is about primal fight or flight for survival, basic animal instinct.
May God bless you and your family.
This. What I want to understand is - how is having schizophrenia or hypertension etc etc all the physical ills we get from trauma helping us to survive? Trauma (and its knock on effects) renders me barely able to care for myself. Some of it epigenetic i believe. I am sick and disabled and would not survive without outside care and support. So this is a flawed survival process. I am guessing that biology believes the changes save more than without them?
@misstalulah9063 First, hugs to you. As a person who suffers Complex PTSD, I watched this discussion, and all I could do is sit here in tears saying "YES! THIS! THIS! THIS! What Dr. Marlin is talking about is physical, identifiable proof of generational trauma and the bodies attempt to compensate for a dysfunctional deregulated fight or flight mechanism, primal survival instinct. I suffer complex PTSD, the US does not yet recognize that as a DNR, an actual billable disease. The rest of the world does.
I was orphaned at 4, along with three siblings. We grew up warehoused in a very abusive foster home. Two of my siblings were non functional before they got out of high school, two of us survived, but it was challenging to put it politely.
I tried to educate myself out of this condition. The science was not there for my siblings and I. There have been false starts before in this field, Freud would be one of them. He set trauma care back a hundred years. What this lady is doing is groundbreaking. Other Doctors are working in this field, as well, the dots are being connected, finally!
Lol
what an amazing episode; bring the good doctor back for more neuroscience! 🤩
My grandma was a famine survivor (Holodomor in Ukraine 1932-1933). She had dementia later in life, and she was always hiding bread or candy under her pillow. My other grandma (same age, same circumstances) was drinking her tea with 6 spoons of sugar. Interesting how it affects me on top of my own trauma because of the current war
How does affect it you in relation to your grandmothers
@@eternal60214Through transgenerational trauma..Sometimes the effects of such trauma go back further than the grandparents.
@@el-Cu9432 I'm asking for an example of the trauma. I obviously just watched a video on how it's passed on
What effects do you have due to transgenerational trauma?
@@eternal60214 I don't exactly know that's why I wrote it in my comment like that. I know my own trauma because of the war but I was wondering if there are also effects from my grandparents which were obviously traumatized till the end of their life.
If it wasn't formulated clearly that I do not know the answer to that question but rather would like to know, my bad.
this scientist is smart, well spoken, articulate and explains her concepts well. she makes for an amazing guest. i hope she comes back often
I am having a number of uncomfortable experiences as I watch this presentation. I am guessing I have limited exposure to intelligent, educated, beautiful black women, because she held my attention. I gotta get out more, my world is limited. Although claiming that watching a video is being "out in the world," smacks of self delusion.
Dr. Marlin also pointed out there are issues about knowledge, technology, manipulation and responsibility. Sugar is one of many materials used to extract and concentrate money, although money and value and power are abstract concepts, they appear to be useful. Human attention appears to be the commodity traded to concentrate power.
I find some irony that the Zuckerberg institute at Columbia University, or some institutions of similar names, sponsor, house or support this research. Facebook, Meta and Zuckerberg have been successful at changing what human populations, or demographic, believe to be true and selling the curated belief. So far responsibility has been successfully ignored.
@@luck484 Zuckerman, not Zuckerberg.
@luck484 Definitely get out more. Limiting yourself is limiting your knowledge. Black/white/ Asian (etc) /Women or men.
Agreed 👍🏾
Well, there is no free will, so she has no choice but to be articulate. She will be back often if she is supposed to be.
she is incredible at breaking down her subject matter. Always nice to listen to people who are passionate and able to communicate about their passions clearly!
I’m a transracial adoptee.
By the time I moved to my birth city and lived among my birth family it felt too late. There is so much trauma in my family, and though I wasn’t raised around it or them it was in me.
My mema (grandmother) passed on last year and I feel I am slowly putting a puzzle back together without ever seeing the photo on the box.
This was so interesting. Thank you thank you thank you for this conversation. At times it brought me to tears. Sista girl, you are brilliant.
THIS is what I most love, bringing in people I've never heard of who are doing amazing research about seriously important things. And then I'm looking more into what they are doing. If I'm able to grasp the fundamentals of these subjects than that's a win for me.
I could listen to this group talk all day. Please come back bianca!
So thankful to be alive at the same time as Neil and Chuck
Dr Martin is the bomb!!! Not only is she smart, but articulate and funny...she needs to be on every week!
This episode was equal parts fascinating and hilarious. Does anyone else think Neil, Chuck, and Gary should have their own late-night talk show?
3/4 of the way in and I wish this was at least twice as long. Such a fascinating and interesting episode.
The guest is fantastic and of course this trio of Neil, Chuck and Gary is unmatched!
I’m so excited to see Bianca Jones Marlin PhD on Startalk. I recently watched a PBS | NOVA documentary about the brain. Here, she was talking about this topic alongside other professionals. I’m glad I was able to hear more about her research.
ooh, thanks for the additional thing to watch ❤
This woman is not only wellspoken and intelligent, she is also extremely gorgeous and infectiously passionate about her research. I would love to work in a lab with her!
That makes 2 of us bro.
Hahahahahaha I’m dying. “We do redline em” , 😂😂😂. My god. I appreciate you all just acknowledging it. As a Native American, I feel deep solidarity with the black community. People are so politically sensitive around me about certain topics and they are often shocked when I make jokes and the response is like, you can’t say that it’s racist. It like, humor is how many communities learn to cope with trauma. We have the right to our humor about our traumatic pasts. I hope that makes sense. You are all wonderful. Thank you for sharing your knowledge.
I do largely agree and it’s hard to argue with your point but consider this
Do you get to decide what someone else considered disrespect?
@@nothanks9503 yes.
Let me explain why.
If you grew up in one culture, you will not inherently understand perspectives from other cultures.
Over time, with spending time learning and immersed in another culture, you can and will slowly come closer to learning these other cultures/perspectives.
Any person is allowed to correct someone else about their lived experience and culture. Not all opinions are valid because opinions do not require facts or experience.
I want to be clear, I am not saying that each individual is not allowed to have an opinion…. Go ahead and have any opinion you’d like.
I do not have to operate based on your beliefs, opinions, delusions, etc and I do not expect others to necessarily be aligned with my own opinions. I also do not give opinions about things I’m aware I know little or nothing about compared to masters/professionals in any given field.
Hope that makes sense. Please feel free to ask questions though bc I really want to be clear.
She deserves to be a Leader...
Her abilities to explain every detail's...
Really great episode, this topic is so interesting. Dr. Bianca Jones Marlin is brilliant and has a wonderful way with words. Please have her on again!
Gary trying not to laugh at the black jokes is hilarious
True
Anyone can come out of there without a head. When a group of people talk about a living being born with a certain gender instead of mentioning the only two that exist.
Watching Gary get uncomfortable can be a drinking game LOL
The mental strength 💪 jajajajajjaj i love love this show.
We're not allowed to laugh at jokes these days?
When I was working on my Anthropology Master’s, I was obsessed with epigenetics. It is absolutely fascinating
Studying RGT, epigenetics was by far the most interesting part of my studies. And that was 20 years plus ago when it was novel. Back then the best explanation was how we developed a fear of spiders or blue foods, and now we are talking alleles and diseases. Amazing!
I listened to the podcast first, loved it. I was in awe like 95% of the time just by how brilliant and eloquent Dr. Marlin was, amazing work. And to be honest, I'm even more in awe watching the video version.
This is one of the funniest, Blackest, smartest conversations Ive seen. SO GOOD! And so captivating! PLEASE invite Dr. Bianca Jones Marlin back! I could listen all day!
One of my favorite episodes so far. Amazing guest. She was so well thought and through. And the way she explained it and interacted was very easy to follow and learn from.
This episode made my brain happy. The topic, the banter, the science it was very pleasing.
Great Episode! Always love the humor injection to keep it light and entertaining while learning.
it has to be said... she has that nice enthusiasm for science that you look for in t these bigbrain scientists... and no use of over complicated words, no stretched out explanations... she was great
What an ntellectually pleasing episode. Dr Martin's communication is indeed so sharp her words almost cut through the phone screen.
Marlin not Martin
After listening to this channel for years, I am so glad that this type of subject is being explained in further detail and I am listening to every minute of this powerful moment. ☺️
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I would listen too, but my great grandparents were run out of NY for being immigrants... so now I can't listen to anyone from NY.
I love the knowledge and the atmosphere in the room. Excellent! ❤❤❤❤
What an extraordinarily good teacher Dr Marlin is!!
You can see it in Gary's eyes... he is processing A LOT in this one. To imagine that your experiences could, possibly, impact future generations beyond just the observed behaviors, nutrition, etc... It's a lot to take in and process. It feels like it creates a more urgent need to be even more responsible and compassionate with our choices.
The clear of thought and explanation by Bianca is incredible.
Only about 1/2 way through, but feel like I've learned a lot of useful information. The speakers are intelligent and charismatic. Looking forward to their next visit.
A truly excellent episode! Dr. Marlin... I'm completely blown away. Absolutely fantastic presentation, Doctor! Thank you all for putting this together and making it so digestible for us non-scientists. Well Done!
Interesting indeed. How does this factor into education of African Americans ruclips.net/video/bHB-XoPjIVQ/видео.htmlsi=1w7rZn1hkLWgSFxQ
I love the level of respect for Dr Marlin. I feel like she was in a safe space amongst these men and I hope that will become an increasing trend.
Learning and laughing at the same time! Who could ask for more? ❤
I loved this discussion! I’m so grateful for the balance of humour and science I get from this channel. It’s also so good to see you on here Mr. Nice! I miss your beautiful energy. This discussion ties is deeply to my experiences at Rythmia with trans-generational and inter-generational trauma while on Ayahuasca. It’s so interesting to have science navigate the discussion of spiritual experiences. Much love!
She is an amazing guest. Thank you for inviting her
Jaw dropped for 45 minutes from what I learned from Dr. Marlin! Thank you for your work! This was an excellent listen!
This conversation was both educational and entertaining! It will be passed on to my friends. Thank you so very very much. I would love to have been sitting there with you guys.
Dr. Marlin is amazing. Shes clear, hilarious and very VERY knowledgeable in her field. Deff one of my top episodes
She’s amazing, truly has a gift for explaining complex topics in a way everyone can understand
She is awesome!
Bring her back again. She can explain all the stuff in a way that even I can understand it.
tyty so much. Dr. Marlin is a genius and i am so grateful for this content. You're unlocking compassion for me after a lifetime of chronic illness, when i was conceived a day or two after my father returned from a traumatic journey in Vietnam.
Hi! We are a Minority run (Hispanic) run nonprofit in a bad area where there is food deserts but they are starting to popup with local stores that have veggies within a mile radius which is great (super expensive, but exists at least). We try to give away fresh fruit and vegetables when we can (bananas and corn for example). We are launching a Youth Urban Farm Program (and Bike Repair). This is fascinating how Dr. Jones and her team are taking back Epigenetics in this way instead of it's original evil intentions. I really think this is a great video that adds another level of value to the work in Urban Farming and I want to thank your team and Neil and the crew of giving you this platform to explain this! Can I add this to our website?
Epigenetics never had evil intentions.... what are you talking about ?
I think you are confusing epigenetics with eugenics. Two entirely different things. Look up the difference and then rewatch the whole podcast. I bet you’re not the only one who confused the two terms.
Yeah can’t really call Hispanic a minority these days lol
@@cathykrueger4899but they are heavily involved with each other especially in an American context remember American eugenics inspired the Nazis
It's just refreshing to see scientific ideas approached from a completely different angle.
31:06 Neil's mind is blown.
Now you feel what we feel when you geniuses talk. ❤
A StarTalk episode about the science of “The Expanse” would be baller! 🚀
I just watched 4 seasons of _For All Mankind._ I'd like to see that.
Seconded
@@RapperRank Thirded
The expanse? You mean your wife's pants?
Fourthed
This smart woman is so good at expressing herself, in such an understandable (and humerous) way.
It's enjoyable to listen to these smart people, even if I get just part of what they're talking
This was one of the best ones yet
I can remember my mother talking about this in the 1950's/60's. Apparently it was evident even then that the children of people who suffered trauma were better.
lol, Gary during the black mice names segment was like Tom Hanks on Black Jeopardy.
This episode was hilarious and amazingly interesting. Thanks for making such interesting and engaging content.
What a fascinating episode and such a brilliant researcher! Thanks for hosting this conversation
This was mind blowing! As a kid, I clearly recall the cutting off the tail on the mouse experiment (I did not do it). And with that, it was set in my mind that nothing can be transmitted down to new generations. This is the tip of the iceberg. I would speculate that some fobias could be transmited thru this method. AMAZING! CONGRATS!
Being a 2 war combat Veteran, my body reacts to certain smells and sounds without my conscious decision. It happens without me, and then I have to make sense of what is actually going on.
Get over it
nostalga
@@PazLeBonnostalgia has a happy connotation... this seems more of a Generational PTSD or something more negative.
Well thousands of years ago this would mostly be a benefit.
@@PazLeBon Nostalgia is just a memory
The "unintended consequences" answer is so important. Sometimes we can't know until we try something, but other times it seems consequences should have been foreseen, such as with importing gypsy moth caterpillars, kudzu, etc. More scientists would do well to follow Dr Marlin's advice and consider the unexpected consequences of their planned actions. Great discussion - Truly fascinating and accessible to us lay-people. Thanks to all!
If I don’t mentally work through all possible consequences of my actions before starting doing pretty much anything it’s super anxiety inducing for me but I feel like that’s why I never became a scientist
Brilliant brilliant brilliant!!!
Keep making these please!!!
Fascinating science and an even better guest. Please have Dr. Marlin back soon!
Dr Bianca Jones Marlin, what a brilliant and gorgeous woman.
Dr. Marlin is absolutely brilliant! I didn’t know what to expect from this episode, but I was fascinated by the subject and Dr. Marlin’s ability to explain complex concepts so clearly. Her delivery was extremely engaging. I do wish she had been interrupted less though.
Questions not asked or answered: If the environmental stressor occoures over several generations; does each new generation add even more receptors? If so, are these generational additions additive or multiplicative? Also; is there a span of generations where these sensors and neurons begin to fade away? Lastly: If there is a replacement stressor; will old duplicate sensor and neuron paths be replaced by the new needed paths?
Excellent questions!
Its kinda like a podcast mashup...this is the best of both hosts and it's pretty awesome.
Wonderful having a woman of such intelligence and humanity in the conversation
Couldn’t the same be said for the effect of slavery on African Americans (trauma , lack of nutrition, resilience etc) and on the other side - the owners who were afraid of revolt by slaves - that in my personal unprofessional , unresearched opinion opinion, could’ve developed the complex of majority and fear of minorities (racism, oppression of others - learned behavior by children and grandchildren) ? 🤔
facts, I don't know if your black but for me even with money i feel the whites are watching me in a store or if a go to an predominantly white own place your first thought is " I hope it doesn't be some racist shxt" .
Yes. I don't see a reason that wouldn't be the case.
But everyone's ancestors have been slaves
Including those who made them slaves? 🤔@@jenster29
How tf does she and her lab not have a Nobel Prize yet???
Because she's not the one who discovered this. It's a few decades old, she's just repeating others work and discoveries 🤷♀️
I've been reading about this for about 20 years now, nothing new was mentioned here.
Outside of the episode talking about quantum physics w/ Dr. Michio, THIS was my fav episode so far!!! Neuroscience is so cool learn about😍😍😍
I love when we talk about something Neal actually wants to talk about. This is the quietest and the most wide eye I’ve ever seen him. It’s very rare 😂😂😂 matter of fact I don’t think I’ve seen a show where he’s this quiet. And Chuck is so amazed he’s making jokes but he’s also really taking it serious. The other guy (can’t remember his name), he asks about 2 questions a show, this show he starts to ask more and more questions. I love this. I probably have watched this show twice.
Everybody needs to see this 😭 it needs millions of views
I am a licensed therapist and a current PhD student in developmental psychology. I have studied epigenetics for over 20 years and of provides a lot of answers.
and what?
She’s Brilliant. Go Guyana!🇬🇾
Get rid of anxiety and get slapped up THIS IS WHY we don't all need meds for all psych stuff I've been telling you guys. Wake up! What an EXCELLENT interview. Absolutely brilliant.
yeah especially with the way things are going, it's only a matter of time before my "anxiety disorder" is going to be a perfect fit for the environment when strange men are hanging around on the corner of the street
Yeah but some people do need meds to varying degrees and we’re not good at knowing which people those are
@@nothanks9503 I agree with how you said this!!! We're not good at knowing who actually needs meds or not. Good point!
One of the best guests ever! Smart, funny, kept up with Chuck in humor and NDT in intellect!!
Bianca is the coolest genius I've listened to lately.
I feel that Chuck represents the reactions of all of us, ordinary people without a science degree
oh really?
I heard somewhere that he actually had it. In physics though.
Fantastic interview
I've literally been saying this for decades. I'm partially lamarkian. The validation is pristine 😂
I’m just a guy off the street and I learned some heavy stuff. I will admit that the comic relief is what kept me watching. Thank you all!!
Dr. Marlin is brilliant. Thank you for sharing the breakdown of the research.
I’ve been fascinated by this subject for a couple months now. This is hands down the best discussion I’ve come across so far! Thank you! 🧡🧡
I love these talks, and epigenetics helped me understand transgenerational memories experienced through dreams (the topic of my dissertation project). I might reach out to Dr. Marlin after I complete my project.
Dude if that’s a thing my ancestors lived in a strange parallel universe with different laws of physics where they had modern technology
All the settings of my dreams have been places I’ve been or amalgamations of places I’ve been
@@nothanks9503 this is normal. What's important is understanding the message of what you're experiencing and what those locations mean to you or the impact they had on your upbringing.
@@houseofamma But they can’t be transgenerational memories if my ancestors have never been to those places and I’ve never had a dream of a place I haven’t been
@@nothanks9503 this is where you need to learn the language your ancestors are communicating in (and I'm not talking about verbiage). Just because you've never been or you think they've never been to a physical location doesn't mean that location has no meaning to you or them or the message they're trying to convey. Also, our souls are far older than our conscious understanding of ourselves, time, and space. As I said, it takes skill and understanding to truly see the meaning of your dreams.
She’s doing some great work. Very interesting 🤔
What a fascinating discussion! Dr. Marlin is brilliant. I can listen to her all day 🧬
So refreshing, truly, to have such intelligent people have intelligent conversations and let us listen in. Thank you, all!
Instinct must come from somewhere, so it would also make sense for some sort of genetic memory to take place for that process to happen
I always assumed that traumatic experiences were passed down for survival purposes. I did not expect it to be present so strongly in males. Will Marlin et al also try this with female mice?
Everything is instinct. Making a decision isn't an example of free will. Everything is predetermined
She didn't want to accept maladaptive, but the trait is maladaptive if the environment changes. The word exists for a reason. It doesn't serve a conducive purpose if the environment changes. I think she read into a bit too much because of her presumed sensitivities... she could have admitted this simple truth but allowed her bias to take hold.
Saying that not being able to smell the almond can get your hurt, but not smelling the peppermint is not detrimental. This is a false conclusion and assumption. Not being able to smell the peppermint in the proper environment does lead to maladaptive behaviors. Just look at crime rates per demographic. Truth hurts