If you judge him as a wrestler, yes he is/was good. If as a person........ .different story (Shawn Michaels was a douche for a good bit of his career, but did his job very well). And personally people cant judge him as a pro wrestler based on his mma career, that's like judging Brock Lesnar's pro wrestling career based on his short lived NFL career. Your next video should be if john cena was actually good, oh the comment section would be on fire! Lol
Cm Punk is in that Austin /Bret class, they could be top the guy, but could also make top guys look good like Cena and Roman. Bret did for Diesel and even when Austin started.
@@partsFUNknown Great video. You can look back at any time in wrestling history and ask if "X" would hold up by today's standards, but the only question that really matters is "how did it make you feel?" And the time, CM Punk got me more invested than I've possibly ever been in wrestling.
He never called himself the best in the world at what he does. Jericho calls himself that. You got it twisted. CM Punk called himself the best WRESTLER in the world.
@@rajivnair5798 watch his promo on June 27th. From there on he said he is the best and in that promo he said that he is the best wrestler in the world. That's what he is referring to when he says he is the best
Im so tired of people saying "he turned his back on the fans." This is his life. He was miserable in WWE, his body and over all health broken down. The fans aren't his friends or family, they don't know who he is and he doesnt owe them his health, mental or physical. If they are truly fans, they should be happy as long as he is happy.
If this was a UFC channel, no. As it is a wrestling channel, clearly he was excellent and no one came near him between 2011-2013 especially. Should've mainevented mania in 2013 also.
CM Punk vs Hardy, Steel Cage, Smackdown where Hardy left is underrated. I remember watching that thinking it couldn't be real, then a week later hardy's music hit and CM Punk came out. Underrated feud and moments
This "Actually Good" episode is fairly different compared to the first where "The OMNI Flair" got her stars aligned and was pitted against other wrestlers. I don't think this episode tried to answer the question was Punk actually good, but rather retells the history of CM Punk. It will be interesting to see what structure this new series will actually take, more of a history lesson or a comparison show.
Chick Magnet Punk is indeed good, he's able to cut blistering promos, has a lot more than the "6 moves of doom" John Cena has, and isn't afraid to put others over! :D
Maybe it's because punk was largely during my hiatus. But punk was cool, and very entertaining. But he's not exactly this wrestling deity everyone makes him out to be.
He was a true shock to the system. They said it brilliantly: people were tuning off and being bored before him. When he appeared it was like ice cold water to the face on a hot day
Hell yeah he's good . The fact that it has been 6 years since the guy left and we're still talking about him , still wanting him back says that. Eventually WWE will bring him back as the ratings keep declining
@@theoutsiderjess1869 there have been rumours that punk's agent approached WWE ,but it's WWE that is not willing to have him. Vince says he can't work with him. But yeah these are rumours. Punk will definitely back if they throw in a lot of money
Pankaj Thakur no way would that be true. First off punk knows vince and would just contact him himself. Second off, vince’s ego is so big that he would definitely take punk back to make him put someone like reigns over
i was one that stopped watching wrestling since like 2003 and that punk promo got me back and the MITB match delivered and since i been keeping up with it with channels like this and watch some PPVs
What I love about this series is when Luke brings in so many voices who, like WrestleTalk, deeply watch wrestling and study it objectively. Hearing their thoughts on the subject is very cool and thought provoking! A wonderful series indeed!
For someone who is “a bad person”, he bought a friend his home (which was gunna be auctioned off b/c he couldn’t pay for it) and never asked for a penny in return. Seems like a good guy to me.
He never forgave his own brother for stealing from their backyard promotion, even after he paid every penny back (and is still apart of today). It seems he’ll never forgive Colt (I’m not going to speculate on what happened) and they literally spent their entire wrestling careers together. If you can’t forgive your brothers (by blood or friendship) then who can you forgive? Its a terrible character trait I can’t relate to.
@@roodboy606 Forgiving people who don't deserve forgiveness just because of random chance circumstances like birth, that's both incredibly stupid and immensely toxic. It will hurt both you and them. I can't say whether his brother deserves forgiveness, it's not my place. Real family is not made by blood, but by choice. Not everyone is born into a group worth being a part of, but everyone can find one like that eventually.
Dont Misunderstand As I said with Colt I don’t know what happened so it wasn’t my place to speculate, just nothing I could imagine being bad enough to do that to someone. In the case of the brother you hear the story from all sides in the doc. It may not be “my place” to say but every other person involved with the situation forgave him. His other brothers, friends, etc. blood having nothing to do with it. So that point is invalid. My cousins on drugs and has stolen from us. And as of right now I’d never forgive him. But if he cleaned up, repaid at least my mother, his mother, his sister and asked for forgiveness I would forgive him. Nothing toxic about that. It wouldn’t re-earn my trust though. If I just let him back into my life and trust him like nothing ever happened *that would be incredibly stupid and immensely toxic*. I wouldn’t trust him further than I could throw him. But at least I’d let him in enough to begin rebuilding that trust.
When I think of CULT OF PERSONALITY- Living Colour, I think “never has a song perfectly fit a wrestler like him than that one “. So yes he’s great. We’re still talking about him years later after all.
He was really REALLY good for his time, but his talent has been overshadowed now by the likes of Rollins, Styles, Balor, etc. Thats not to say he's bad, just not as good as the new guard But on the mic he schools everyone currently
Shapio He may not be as good as the current guard but for as good in the ring as those guys you just mentioned...how many memorable moments/matches have those guy honestly created in the ring compared to Punk? When I see a Rollins or Balor match it seems so choreographed, they try to do all their moves in 1 match (something HBK touched on when he talked about RVD). So it seems repetitive.
I honestly don't really agree with this. I do believe Punk was 1 of the best in the world at the time, & while it may be nostalgia, I think he'd still hold up today. His in ring work is honestly on a level with some of the best workers out there. 1 of my favorite Daniel Bryan matches of all time was with Punk in 2012, & I dont think it can be argued that thats all down to Bryan. Yes Bryan is amazing & could drag the worst wrestlers to their best match, but it cant really be argued that he carried the match against Punk. If Punk can hold his own & shine in a match with Daniel Bryan, he can wrestle a good match with any of the guys going today. 1 of my personal dream matches is Punk/Styles.
@@Shapio I kind of disagree. He beats Seth in both in ring skills and mic skills. CM punk gave us some of the best matches from 2011-2013 including matches against cena,Brock,taker,Rock etc.
I never understood the hype around him (post WWE). Yes, I know he was an underappreciated talent, with loads of potential; but, I didn't see anything past that. Slowly changing, as he juggles duties in the office, and in the ring, for AEW.
Same here...I was just 9 at the time...and although I didn't get most of the things he was talking about....I could sense that it was something important. Which is why I jumped ship from the John Cena mark to a CM Punk fan post MitB where Punk ran with the Championship...
Luke smashing it again! Love it mate. Imo Punk was by far and away the wrestler which connected with me more than anyone at the time and without him I don't think I'd have watched as much wrestling over the years as I have. Personally, good is an understatement!
I think Punk’s debut on Backstage was a good way for him to reintroduce himself back into wrestling. It’s a business he hasn’t been a part of for years, and getting to be on a talk show about wrestling, was a smart way to become involved again, without having to throw his body and the ground every week.
First of all, amazing video. Second of all, sweet Louis, your mic is a front address microphone so if you spoke into the front rather than the top it would sound even better.
So I'm writing in two parts : before and after watching the video Part 1 : IMO, if you consider that a wrestler is good when he's a good athlete, a charismatic promo and a rating draw then yes, I don't think you can argue that. Athletically speaking, he had so many great matches with the likes of Cena, Lesnar, Taker, Bryan, Jericho. As a promo, obviously the pipebomb comes to mind but his work as a cult leader in the Straight Edge Society, and what he did during the Summer of Punk was really good. And you can tell he's very popular, remember when Heyman came out to his music and the arena was losing it. So I think that, yes, CM Punk was actually good at professional wrestling. Part 2 : OK, I've watched the video. My opinion hasn't changed. I think his image has been altered because of everything that happened outside of wrestling with the legal issues etc. Him having a bad MMA run or "turning his back on the fans" is not an explanation to prove if he's good or not at pro wrestling. I also agree with Luke when people say that he would be exposed as overrated in the ring if he'd have a match today. Joe, AJ, Sydal, Owens, Bryan... all those guys can still have great matches today and they have the same wrestling style with Punk. So yes, I personally think CM Punk is good.
For the people who dislike the series- I think you’ve missed the point. The series is less about the actual quality of people and more about who some people say yes and others say no
partsFUNknown So wanting to work with younger talent to get them over and losing to literally every part timer: Rock, Undertaker and Bork Laser means he wasn’t a “company guy” or an “ass kisser.” Be a little bit more specific on what you agree with Lukey-Boy haha
"Punk is not a good person so he wasn't that good to begin with anyways" sounds like a bitter argument to be honest. People can be rude and yet have a good skill. Also, if you ever digged deep on CM Punk Documentaries and interviews, I would consider him nicer than people think he is, but that's just me maybe. He seems misunderstood at times in my personal opinion. Also I don't know if I can say anything bad about CM Punk the Person, the guy married AJ Lee. lol (I do think it's a shame what happened to him and Cabana)
Yeah I agree with that...in most interviews I see of him he seems like a pretty nice guy who cares for what he does in a way I don't get from someone like the rock (even tho I love the rock) but I do get why people get rubbed off the wrong way as he's just one of those guys who gonna tell u exactly how he feels without any filter...and honestly I respect him for having that kind of balls to...this might be a slight biased opinion coz he's one of my favorite wrestlers of all time so take of that what u will
I personally never understood all the hype around CM Punk. He's never been that good in my personal opinion, but i dont have any problems with those who like him
Watching this is like an old school Top Gear car review, love the style! Personally, Punk as a performer was untouchable in his time and in his prime would be one of the best in any era you put that Punk in. Unfortunately time, as always, is a bit of a bitch and maybe his rep has been tarnished in the past few years. However you have to be completely ignorant to say he is not at least good, if not one of the GOATS in his time🤷🏼♂️
I can't wait for Luke's return after his paternity leave. Hopefully he has a lot of time with his family, and when he's ready maybe next year we see him again. I know he's essential for the running of the main channel but could we please have a regular/semi-regular new explained video, these are such a joy to watch even just for the Luke-ism. The camera cuts, the random garden microphone, cutting to him in his parked car always pops me 😂. You can tell how much fun he has making these and it is so fun to watch
Is Luke actually good at telling if wrestlers were actually good ?short answer yes and long answer yyyyyyyyyyyyeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeessssssssssssss...sssssssssssssss😎🤟
This is a really good video, really well told and very well balanced. I loved Punk, but when I look at it all now, I agree with the burning the fans and having a hollow voice, that didnt back up his promises. And yo be honest I'm at the point where I am over hearing about him and his potential come back and frustrated that it still has legs. This is absolutely not to take away from the video, as I said it's a very well balanced view and I really enjoyed it. Cheers luke.
Here in 2023. She came back for the first time since Wrestlemania 39, and immediately got a title shot against Asuka after being gone for 3 months, and after Asuka was presented the new womens championship. Nothing has changed, and now I compare Flair to Goldberg as she just gets title shots by asking
Nice furthering of the heel persona. This is such good s word. The fact you have a DVD of one of the greatest films ever made in Battle Royale behind you is all about telling the audience you know better than them. Brilliant.
The reason that the fans turned on him is that they started to realize he wasn't coming back. The turn started right after he lost his first UFC fight and compounded after his second. It became full blown in the last few years as he has interacted with the public more and his lack of interest has become more and more apparent.
@@dcknyoaho actually he's quite nice when you meet him in real life. But as most people, he treats you the way you treat him. I honestly don't get why some people feel he turned his back on the fans, seems childish. Like the dude's just living his life.
@@christmansonpunk2927 I've never met him, but I don't have a problem with him either. My point is that the fans wanted him to come back, and if we're being honest, probably expected him to come back, especially after his UFC losses. Punk has done enough public interfacing in the last 2 or 3 years that I think people have slowly accepted that he's content in his life after wrestling and isn't coming back. Combine that with the changes in the business and problems with booking their talent properly, a return by Punk would probably fall flatter than WWE(or even AWE) and the fans would like. When I say the fans have turned on him, I don't mean that they don't like him anymore. I just think the interest has faded substantially. The fans know he's probably not coming back, and even if he does, it's almost certainly not going to be as good as it should be. Just look at what they've done with Edge. It's been good, but nowhere near as good as it should be, and it's not because of the absent audiences.
@@dcknyoaho I hope he's smart enough to stay away. I love him but I think the business has moved on and you're right, a return would not be good and would probs tarnish his legacy. I feel like people don't know how to let things go sometimes and clamor for things/people that were great in their time, but that's over. I'd be perfectly happy to see him in other media or even as a commentator
@@christmansonpunk2927 I think so too. With the way they treated him when he first left the company, I don't really see him going back as a wrestler; unless for an ungodly amount of guaranteed money. Besides, if he went back now, he'd be a part of the problem. WWE's biggest problem in recent years is that they continue to bring back the "old guys" and putting them in prime spots with big paydays instead of elevating more of their younger(and cheaper) talent.
Great video. It also proved 2 things; 1. Punk IS that good. All these years later, even after his return, people still chant for him. He’s been a topic in wrestling since he left WWE. That’s not overrated, that’s what a star looks like. The dude has it all. 🤷♂️ He’s been back a year, practically, and he had the strongest crowd reaction in recent years from wrestling fans, as well as sold out that same arena on a RUMOR. These points alone qualifies him as one of the best. 2. Wrestling fans can be VERY toxic and petty. He had every right to not only quit a job that was physically, mentally and emotionally killing him and then calling them out on their mistreatment of him, and other talents there. Any fans upset about that are either bootlickers for toxic employers, expecting you to “suck it up” in a toxic work environment rather than address the problem, or just pissed that a top talent left their favorite company because he was tired of the abuse and now they want to make him feel like he “owes” them something. 🤦♂️ People deserve to know the truth, even if you don’t like to hear it. Period.
Freaking love this new video style. Keep it up! Also my take is that CM Punk ignited guys like Cody, Kenny and Moxley. He was a part of making Indy wrestling mainstream.
I love these videos! It definitely makes you relook at your favorite wrestlers and ask that question. I wonder if Luke will ever say that a wrestler wasn’t good. Technically, it’s all opinions. What makes a good wrestler? Their ring work, how they are on the mike, how the fans react to them?
The Punk pipebomb turned me into a wrestling fan. I had no prior knowledge of wrestling and had no idea who Ring of Honor were when he said it. But something in that moment felt really special and hooked me.
People who say he couldn’t hang with the wrestlers today either never saw or have forgotten his Indy run. Those Samoa Joe matches in ROH were just brilliant and remain so to this day. In reality he’d probably be even better with some of the pure wrestlers around today than he was with the sports entertainers he had to work with for most of his WWE run
Seeing the PlayStation Resident Evil 2 game in the background brought back many happy hours with my brother. The only Resident Evil game you need to play.
Yes he was. He was great, and he saved WWE in the early 2010s. He was extremely believable- I believed he really cared about the stories, and the mic work he did was incredible. I think, if WWE had taken care of him properly, he would have had a lot of great years in him yet. But i can never look at him the same way again after Hornswoggle’s story about why he cut him out of his life. Man, as a person he seems like a tough person to be friends with. But as a performer, can’t fault the guy.
LUKE: Was CM Punk Actually Good? Let me know! And thanks for watching :)
A good wrestler, a good promo, but maybe a dick in real life...
But he was very entertaining for years. Yes, he was actually good
If you judge him as a wrestler, yes he is/was good. If as a person........
.different story (Shawn Michaels was a douche for a good bit of his career, but did his job very well). And personally people cant judge him as a pro wrestler based on his mma career, that's like judging Brock Lesnar's pro wrestling career based on his short lived NFL career.
Your next video should be if john cena was actually good, oh the comment section would be on fire! Lol
Cm Punk is in that Austin /Bret class, they could be top the guy, but could also make top guys look good like Cena and Roman. Bret did for Diesel and even when Austin started.
Please do a was kevin nash actually good it could be amazing
Best in the world.
(After Bret, Michaels, Bryan, and Holly, of course)
Okay, before I watch: Yes. The answer is yes. I mean you don't have to like him as a person but as a performer he is undeniably excellent.
LUKE: Would love to hear what you have to say when you've finished watching it :)
@@partsFUNknown Great video. You can look back at any time in wrestling history and ask if "X" would hold up by today's standards, but the only question that really matters is "how did it make you feel?" And the time, CM Punk got me more invested than I've possibly ever been in wrestling.
😂😂😂🤦🏻♂️
So you didn't watch the video.
I like him as a person and as a wrestler. I feel he has no apologies to make.
He never called himself the best in the world at what he does. Jericho calls himself that. You got it twisted. CM Punk called himself the best WRESTLER in the world.
Ty
And he well, wasn’t
Wasn’t that Also Bret Hart’s catch phrase too
he just called himself the best in the world not best WRESTLER in the world.
@@rajivnair5798 watch his promo on June 27th. From there on he said he is the best and in that promo he said that he is the best wrestler in the world. That's what he is referring to when he says he is the best
Am I the only one that hears cult of personality as the background music
LUKE: So glad you noticed it! Editor James is doing amazing music for this series!
Lol
Whenever I hear it on the radio I also hear "From Chicago IL, weighing in at 218 pounds. CM PUNK!"
Chase Ruka-Akehurst
Never cared for the music but was talented interesting wrestler
Chase Ruka-Akehurst I have always prefered the rock music entrance. Far better.
Im so tired of people saying "he turned his back on the fans." This is his life. He was miserable in WWE, his body and over all health broken down. The fans aren't his friends or family, they don't know who he is and he doesnt owe them his health, mental or physical. If they are truly fans, they should be happy as long as he is happy.
THIS
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Exactly
Facts! Such a lazily-viewed take
BuT wE pAiD fOr HiS hOuSe
CM Punk is still the most talked about Professional Wrestler of the last decade.
There’s a reason for that.
Cm Punk has the physique of a crack head, horrible ratings history, and couldn’t even sellout bingo halls before WWE.
@@ivanjimenez8868 but he still gets chants everywhere soooo
@@monampanemoganedi169 the only people chanting his name are smarks
@@tbejw2430 but they still do and that denotes greatness
@@monampanemoganedi169 lol how ? Because a handful of his die hard fans or hometown fans do?
If this was a UFC channel, no.
As it is a wrestling channel, clearly he was excellent and no one came near him between 2011-2013 especially. Should've mainevented mania in 2013 also.
AJ probably did.
Marvel Legends UK she’s probably would have but cuz of the situation at the time she didn’t stand a chance
aj styles
Muhammad aj wasn’t in wwe then
@@jameslobos9224 doesnt matter
WHY ISNT ANYONE TALKING ABOUT OLIS ONLYFANS i need my eyes scrubbed
Who?
I need that link.
CM Punk vs Hardy, Steel Cage, Smackdown where Hardy left is underrated. I remember watching that thinking it couldn't be real, then a week later hardy's music hit and CM Punk came out. Underrated feud and moments
It makes you wonder what if Jeff had won that Steel cage match
@@adamturner5871 he needed time off for his health, he was gonna return but he got arrested not too long after and went to tna
This "Actually Good" episode is fairly different compared to the first where "The OMNI Flair" got her stars aligned and was pitted against other wrestlers. I don't think this episode tried to answer the question was Punk actually good, but rather retells the history of CM Punk. It will be interesting to see what structure this new series will actually take, more of a history lesson or a comparison show.
I think it will be either or depending on the topic.
I understand what you mean, this episode could have provided stats. But if you're really interested in those they're an easy find on Google.
TheStupendousM (fart sound)
Chick Magnet Punk is indeed good, he's able to cut blistering promos, has a lot more than the "6 moves of doom" John Cena has, and isn't afraid to put others over! :D
LUKE: Rewatching old footage of him for this video made my heart flutter.
honestly i never understood the punk hype but i have no issue with people that enjoyed him
That’s how I felt about Daniel Bryan for a good portion of his career. He did eventually win me over though.
Maybe it's because punk was largely during my hiatus. But punk was cool, and very entertaining. But he's not exactly this wrestling deity everyone makes him out to be.
@@kev_whatev Same here. I didn't understand the yes movement at all. And I saw him in the Indies. But he grew on me.
He was a true shock to the system. They said it brilliantly: people were tuning off and being bored before him. When he appeared it was like ice cold water to the face on a hot day
That´s how i feel about Daniel Bryan, i just don´t get it...
Hell yeah he's good . The fact that it has been 6 years since the guy left and we're still talking about him , still wanting him back says that. Eventually WWE will bring him back as the ratings keep declining
Nah it's not if wwe wants to bring him back but rather if he wants to go back. Punk when he left wrestling looked like he absolutely hated the sport
@@theoutsiderjess1869 there have been rumours that punk's agent approached WWE ,but it's WWE that is not willing to have him. Vince says he can't work with him. But yeah these are rumours. Punk will definitely back if they throw in a lot of money
Pankaj Thakur no way would that be true. First off punk knows vince and would just contact him himself. Second off, vince’s ego is so big that he would definitely take punk back to make him put someone like reigns over
i was one that stopped watching wrestling since like 2003 and that punk promo got me back and the MITB match delivered and since i been keeping up with it with channels like this and watch some PPVs
What I love about this series is when Luke brings in so many voices who, like WrestleTalk, deeply watch wrestling and study it objectively. Hearing their thoughts on the subject is very cool and thought provoking! A wonderful series indeed!
For someone who is “a bad person”, he bought a friend his home (which was gunna be auctioned off b/c he couldn’t pay for it) and never asked for a penny in return. Seems like a good guy to me.
He never forgave his own brother for stealing from their backyard promotion, even after he paid every penny back (and is still apart of today). It seems he’ll never forgive Colt (I’m not going to speculate on what happened) and they literally spent their entire wrestling careers together.
If you can’t forgive your brothers (by blood or friendship) then who can you forgive? Its a terrible character trait I can’t relate to.
@@roodboy606 Forgiving people who don't deserve forgiveness just because of random chance circumstances like birth, that's both incredibly stupid and immensely toxic. It will hurt both you and them. I can't say whether his brother deserves forgiveness, it's not my place.
Real family is not made by blood, but by choice. Not everyone is born into a group worth being a part of, but everyone can find one like that eventually.
Dont Misunderstand As I said with Colt I don’t know what happened so it wasn’t my place to speculate, just nothing I could imagine being bad enough to do that to someone.
In the case of the brother you hear the story from all sides in the doc. It may not be “my place” to say but every other person involved with the situation forgave him. His other brothers, friends, etc. blood having nothing to do with it. So that point is invalid.
My cousins on drugs and has stolen from us. And as of right now I’d never forgive him. But if he cleaned up, repaid at least my mother, his mother, his sister and asked for forgiveness I would forgive him. Nothing toxic about that.
It wouldn’t re-earn my trust though. If I just let him back into my life and trust him like nothing ever happened *that would be incredibly stupid and immensely toxic*.
I wouldn’t trust him further than I could throw him. But at least I’d let him in enough to begin rebuilding that trust.
@@roodboy606 you're not entitled to anyone's forgiveness
@@dafttassia1960 cool.
So glad this is a Luke presentation. Doing good, mate. Doing good. Now lets get the man a TShirt
Love the video. So much fun to contribute to this. And got to see my younger self at CM Punk's ECW debut.
When I think of CULT OF PERSONALITY- Living Colour, I think “never has a song perfectly fit a wrestler like him than that one “. So yes he’s great. We’re still talking about him years later after all.
Punk is the best talker in my mind, as a wrestler he’s just fine.
He was really REALLY good for his time, but his talent has been overshadowed now by the likes of Rollins, Styles, Balor, etc.
Thats not to say he's bad, just not as good as the new guard
But on the mic he schools everyone currently
Shapio He may not be as good as the current guard but for as good in the ring as those guys you just mentioned...how many memorable moments/matches have those guy honestly created in the ring compared to Punk? When I see a Rollins or Balor match it seems so choreographed, they try to do all their moves in 1 match (something HBK touched on when he talked about RVD). So it seems repetitive.
His anaconda vise and gts were the only thing good about his moves. Everything else besides his mic skills aren’t that good
I honestly don't really agree with this. I do believe Punk was 1 of the best in the world at the time, & while it may be nostalgia, I think he'd still hold up today. His in ring work is honestly on a level with some of the best workers out there. 1 of my favorite Daniel Bryan matches of all time was with Punk in 2012, & I dont think it can be argued that thats all down to Bryan. Yes Bryan is amazing & could drag the worst wrestlers to their best match, but it cant really be argued that he carried the match against Punk. If Punk can hold his own & shine in a match with Daniel Bryan, he can wrestle a good match with any of the guys going today. 1 of my personal dream matches is Punk/Styles.
@@Shapio I kind of disagree. He beats Seth in both in ring skills and mic skills. CM punk gave us some of the best matches from 2011-2013 including matches against cena,Brock,taker,Rock etc.
Short answer, yes.
Long answer, yeeeessssssssssssssssssssssssss.
This is my favorite type of video yall are making now, good job they're excellent!!
Love thos new series. Would love to see a 'is Cody actually good' video.
Yes. Please.
I never understood the hype around him (post WWE).
Yes, I know he was an underappreciated talent, with loads of potential;
but, I didn't see anything past that.
Slowly changing, as he juggles duties in the office, and in the ring, for AEW.
@@solascriptura-e7t
Neither did I. Hence, my desire to see that video.
Luke i love this so much.
Opinion based highly edited videos are my favorite and you're doing it really well thank you.
I actually watched pipebomb live on TV. Problem was, I was in my early teenage years and had no idea what he was even talking about.
Same here...I was just 9 at the time...and although I didn't get most of the things he was talking about....I could sense that it was something important. Which is why I jumped ship from the John Cena mark to a CM Punk fan post MitB where Punk ran with the Championship...
I miss these videos.
Also happy CM Punk day everyone!
Supports partsFUNknown! Jam that jam!
Love the new series. Can't wait to see who you cover next Luke!
Luke smashing it again! Love it mate. Imo Punk was by far and away the wrestler which connected with me more than anyone at the time and without him I don't think I'd have watched as much wrestling over the years as I have. Personally, good is an understatement!
LUKE: Thanks for watching!
Mate I'm really enjoying these. 👍
"But for punk the fire still burns" nice reference to his theme before cult of personality
Thanks Luke owen for this awesome video
Can you see me writing the comments, Luke? 😂😂😂
LUKE: You and BigRuck420316!
These videos are brilliant Luke! Keep em coming
I think Punk’s debut on Backstage was a good way for him to reintroduce himself back into wrestling. It’s a business he hasn’t been a part of for years, and getting to be on a talk show about wrestling, was a smart way to become involved again, without having to throw his body and the ground every week.
First of all, amazing video. Second of all, sweet Louis, your mic is a front address microphone so if you spoke into the front rather than the top it would sound even better.
So I'm writing in two parts : before and after watching the video
Part 1 : IMO, if you consider that a wrestler is good when he's a good athlete, a charismatic promo and a rating draw then yes, I don't think you can argue that. Athletically speaking, he had so many great matches with the likes of Cena, Lesnar, Taker, Bryan, Jericho. As a promo, obviously the pipebomb comes to mind but his work as a cult leader in the Straight Edge Society, and what he did during the Summer of Punk was really good. And you can tell he's very popular, remember when Heyman came out to his music and the arena was losing it. So I think that, yes, CM Punk was actually good at professional wrestling.
Part 2 : OK, I've watched the video. My opinion hasn't changed. I think his image has been altered because of everything that happened outside of wrestling with the legal issues etc. Him having a bad MMA run or "turning his back on the fans" is not an explanation to prove if he's good or not at pro wrestling. I also agree with Luke when people say that he would be exposed as overrated in the ring if he'd have a match today. Joe, AJ, Sydal, Owens, Bryan... all those guys can still have great matches today and they have the same wrestling style with Punk.
So yes, I personally think CM Punk is good.
Let's not forget his feud with Jeff Hardy, that was excellent work
Clicked for the content. Stayed to just gaze at the Godzilla collection
For the people who dislike the series-
I think you’ve missed the point. The series is less about the actual quality of people and more about who some people say yes and others say no
I am loving this series on the channel! The way it’s shot and put together feels very fresh and keeps me thoroughly entertained.
For me it's a clear 'yes' i judge workers on what i see on-screen
These videos are wonderful, thank you Luke!
I can't wait for these comments
LUKE: I'm *hoping* people will take in all the points before making judgements!
partsFUNknown you must be new to the internet
Luke this was awesome . Good job mate.
CM Punk was Stone Cold Steve Austin of my time watching wrestling.
Make no mistake Punk was never nowhere close to Steve Austin
That’s actually pretty sad
Luke and team you’re killing it with this series, well done again! 🤘🏻
CM Punk is awesome but he never was going to go over part timers because he is not a company guy
LUKE: Yep. Pretty much!
partsFUNknown So wanting to work with younger talent to get them over and losing to literally every part timer: Rock, Undertaker and Bork Laser means he wasn’t a “company guy” or an “ass kisser.” Be a little bit more specific on what you agree with Lukey-Boy haha
Loving this series by the way! Great work Luke!👏👍
Was SRS actually good? Yes, he was the people's champ. #FTF
booooooooooo
#JTJ
I love this series, please continue with the great content!
"Punk is not a good person so he wasn't that good to begin with anyways" sounds like a bitter argument to be honest. People can be rude and yet have a good skill. Also, if you ever digged deep on CM Punk Documentaries and interviews, I would consider him nicer than people think he is, but that's just me maybe. He seems misunderstood at times in my personal opinion. Also I don't know if I can say anything bad about CM Punk the Person, the guy married AJ Lee. lol
(I do think it's a shame what happened to him and Cabana)
Yeah I agree with that...in most interviews I see of him he seems like a pretty nice guy who cares for what he does in a way I don't get from someone like the rock (even tho I love the rock) but I do get why people get rubbed off the wrong way as he's just one of those guys who gonna tell u exactly how he feels without any filter...and honestly I respect him for having that kind of balls to...this might be a slight biased opinion coz he's one of my favorite wrestlers of all time so take of that what u will
I really love this video format.
I personally never understood all the hype around CM Punk. He's never been that good in my personal opinion, but i dont have any problems with those who like him
@Seth wwe Cena and Orton definitely could wrestle
Seth wwe Cena is awesome at his job, Orton is something I can understand, his slow movements can drag a lot of matches.
Lol I like all the locations for your video!
Watching this is like an old school Top Gear car review, love the style! Personally, Punk as a performer was untouchable in his time and in his prime would be one of the best in any era you put that Punk in. Unfortunately time, as always, is a bit of a bitch and maybe his rep has been tarnished in the past few years. However you have to be completely ignorant to say he is not at least good, if not one of the GOATS in his time🤷🏼♂️
Keep doing these man they’re great
He is my personal favorite of all time.
I can't wait for Luke's return after his paternity leave. Hopefully he has a lot of time with his family, and when he's ready maybe next year we see him again. I know he's essential for the running of the main channel but could we please have a regular/semi-regular new explained video, these are such a joy to watch even just for the Luke-ism. The camera cuts, the random garden microphone, cutting to him in his parked car always pops me 😂. You can tell how much fun he has making these and it is so fun to watch
Oh boy break out the popcorn fellas and take a seat by the fireside with me for the comments section.
Loving these videos.
I hope you didn't consider his UFC run. Because that was a sad rollercoaster ride.
As for me, as a wrestler?
YES.
As a MMA Fighter?
NO.
I like this midi version of cult of personality you used in the background of this Luke. A very nice touch!
He was amazing in everything
Really good video Luke. Another good idea you could consider is: Is AEW actually good?
Is Luke actually good at telling if wrestlers were actually good ?short answer yes and long answer yyyyyyyyyyyyeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeessssssssssssss...sssssssssssssss😎🤟
This is a really good video, really well told and very well balanced. I loved Punk, but when I look at it all now, I agree with the burning the fans and having a hollow voice, that didnt back up his promises. And yo be honest I'm at the point where I am over hearing about him and his potential come back and frustrated that it still has legs. This is absolutely not to take away from the video, as I said it's a very well balanced view and I really enjoyed it. Cheers luke.
6:50 Froth wall
Here in 2023. She came back for the first time since Wrestlemania 39, and immediately got a title shot against Asuka after being gone for 3 months, and after Asuka was presented the new womens championship. Nothing has changed, and now I compare Flair to Goldberg as she just gets title shots by asking
Cm Punk was one of my favorite wrestlers of all time. And yes he was he was GREAT!
Nice furthering of the heel persona. This is such good s word. The fact you have a DVD of one of the greatest films ever made in Battle Royale behind you is all about telling the audience you know better than them. Brilliant.
mmmm yes.My favourite bald guy.
Great job, Luke!
Yes
Dammit, man! This video is fantastic!
Yes,Yes he was and still is
At what exactly
Myles Graham Promos, being entertaining, being good at the wrestles etc
Luke I love your videos!
The reason the fans have turned on punk it is a second rate Brock Lesnar now, and I mean that.
The reason that the fans turned on him is that they started to realize he wasn't coming back. The turn started right after he lost his first UFC fight and compounded after his second. It became full blown in the last few years as he has interacted with the public more and his lack of interest has become more and more apparent.
@@dcknyoaho actually he's quite nice when you meet him in real life. But as most people, he treats you the way you treat him. I honestly don't get why some people feel he turned his back on the fans, seems childish. Like the dude's just living his life.
@@christmansonpunk2927 I've never met him, but I don't have a problem with him either. My point is that the fans wanted him to come back, and if we're being honest, probably expected him to come back, especially after his UFC losses. Punk has done enough public interfacing in the last 2 or 3 years that I think people have slowly accepted that he's content in his life after wrestling and isn't coming back. Combine that with the changes in the business and problems with booking their talent properly, a return by Punk would probably fall flatter than WWE(or even AWE) and the fans would like.
When I say the fans have turned on him, I don't mean that they don't like him anymore. I just think the interest has faded substantially. The fans know he's probably not coming back, and even if he does, it's almost certainly not going to be as good as it should be. Just look at what they've done with Edge. It's been good, but nowhere near as good as it should be, and it's not because of the absent audiences.
@@dcknyoaho I hope he's smart enough to stay away. I love him but I think the business has moved on and you're right, a return would not be good and would probs tarnish his legacy. I feel like people don't know how to let things go sometimes and clamor for things/people that were great in their time, but that's over. I'd be perfectly happy to see him in other media or even as a commentator
@@christmansonpunk2927 I think so too. With the way they treated him when he first left the company, I don't really see him going back as a wrestler; unless for an ungodly amount of guaranteed money. Besides, if he went back now, he'd be a part of the problem. WWE's biggest problem in recent years is that they continue to bring back the "old guys" and putting them in prime spots with big paydays instead of elevating more of their younger(and cheaper) talent.
Big pop here in my living room for the shoutout to The Smart Marks Forums. Those were the days!
No: overrated AF
Overrated: probably. But he's still a really good wrestler
Dats da truf
CM Punk is what kept me watching WWE. The pipe bomb promo I remember vividly being amazed because it was like the attitude era all over again.
CM Punk's personaliy and charisma alone makes him better then 80% of the active WWE roster
I want to take this time to thank you Luke. These videos are shot amazingly, it must have taken some time.
Great video. It also proved 2 things;
1. Punk IS that good. All these years later, even after his return, people still chant for him. He’s been a topic in wrestling since he left WWE. That’s not overrated, that’s what a star looks like. The dude has it all. 🤷♂️ He’s been back a year, practically, and he had the strongest crowd reaction in recent years from wrestling fans, as well as sold out that same arena on a RUMOR. These points alone qualifies him as one of the best.
2. Wrestling fans can be VERY toxic and petty. He had every right to not only quit a job that was physically, mentally and emotionally killing him and then calling them out on their mistreatment of him, and other talents there. Any fans upset about that are either bootlickers for toxic employers, expecting you to “suck it up” in a toxic work environment rather than address the problem, or just pissed that a top talent left their favorite company because he was tired of the abuse and now they want to make him feel like he “owes” them something. 🤦♂️ People deserve to know the truth, even if you don’t like to hear it. Period.
Maaan, I usually detest skits and such, but somehow these dudes make it seriously work. Easily the best wrestling content on the net.
This is the best WrestleTalk video, period.
Olis onlyfans joke almost killed me lol love the series it keeps getting better
Freaking love this new video style. Keep it up! Also my take is that CM Punk ignited guys like Cody, Kenny and Moxley. He was a part of making Indy wrestling mainstream.
I love these videos! It definitely makes you relook at your favorite wrestlers and ask that question. I wonder if Luke will ever say that a wrestler wasn’t good. Technically, it’s all opinions. What makes a good wrestler? Their ring work, how they are on the mike, how the fans react to them?
Great video
Stubbled upon this. I like the idea of the show and the inclusion of other wrestling fans/podcasters. I look forward to seeing more.
This channel needs a podcast channel.
The Punk pipebomb turned me into a wrestling fan. I had no prior knowledge of wrestling and had no idea who Ring of Honor were when he said it. But something in that moment felt really special and hooked me.
Someone to me perfectly described CM Punk at the time he was Daniel day Lewis stuck in a world of transformers sequels
WHERE DID YOU GET THAT BOOK??? THAT BOOK IS SUPER RARE!!! I’m a huge CM fan so I neeeeed that book!! 😍
People who say he couldn’t hang with the wrestlers today either never saw or have forgotten his Indy run. Those Samoa Joe matches in ROH were just brilliant and remain so to this day. In reality he’d probably be even better with some of the pure wrestlers around today than he was with the sports entertainers he had to work with for most of his WWE run
Seeing the PlayStation Resident Evil 2 game in the background brought back many happy hours with my brother. The only Resident Evil game you need to play.
LOVE THIS VIDEO
Yes he was. He was great, and he saved WWE in the early 2010s. He was extremely believable- I believed he really cared about the stories, and the mic work he did was incredible. I think, if WWE had taken care of him properly, he would have had a lot of great years in him yet. But i can never look at him the same way again after Hornswoggle’s story about why he cut him out of his life. Man, as a person he seems like a tough person to be friends with. But as a performer, can’t fault the guy.
Great to revisit this video in 2021, now that the wound seems finally healed
“The flame still burned” I see what you did there (;