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AMD RX 5500 XT GPU Review: 4GB vs. 8GB Benchmarks, Thermals, & Noise
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- Опубликовано: 14 авг 2024
- We're reviewing and benchmarking the AMD RX 5500 XT video card in 4GB & 8GB capacities, featuring the Sapphire RX 5500 XT Pulse & Powercolor RX 5500 XT Red Dragon.
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In this review, we're looking at the AMD RX 5500 XT video cards in both 4GB and 8GB capacities. These cards compare the most directly to the NVIDIA GTX 1650 Super, freshly released, and potentially the GTX 1660. The 1660 Super would be a price category jump to ~$250 and the RX 5700 would be a major shift, although we expect more cards from AMD to fill-in the gaps later.
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Title should have been "We get it AMD, you can make a RX480".
God damn right they can and they'll keep making them until the heat death of the sun!
Nope. "We get it AMD, you can make a R9 290".
Did you mean R9 290?
@@sanctorum21 Yeah 😉
@@jellemees Oh my bad, was replying to OP lol. Didn't notice you were basically saying the same thing as me😂
Glad to see people calling them out, I remember everyone talking shit on NVidia for releasing "another 980Ti" as the 1070 but AMD have been making the 290(x) for 5 generations now😂 Shit, the R9 280(HD7950) even got 4 generations kinda(R9 285 and 380-same performance, improved efficiency).
These cards should be revisited with the revised drivers. I feel they have done wonders with performance
Thank you Steve, your word is a lot louder than most of ours when it comes to reaching AMD, and I've been complaining about these drivers since release.
Yeah, even though they recently increase their RND department a month or so ago, they still need some extra more for the drivers.
but re**ded amd fan defend them :( amd is perfect, cuz they are underdog. They scam people but no one give a fuck :)
The new interface makes me want a nvidia card.
@@KillThemAll7wolf What scam? Don't you mean Nvidia making you buy GPUS with only 5-10 percent increase in performance for 50 percent price hike? Don't get me wrong, AMD is still have a long way to go when it comes to GPU, but saying they are scamming you is a bit of a stretch, considering you need an account to even edit some stuff with your Nvidia drivers...
@@Deliveredmean42 Yeah they used 'scam' the wrong way. Kinda like how you're saying nvidia is 'making you buy' something. No one is making anyone buy anything and you aren't getting scammed or ripped off if you receive the product you paid for. No matter how good/bad that product is and no matter how much anyone thinks that product should be sold for.
At this pricing & performance, AMD will sell a lot of Nvidia cards.
Heck they'll sell a lot of RX 570/580 which are cheaper and offer nearly the same or even sometimes better performance. If that was the goal then good job AMD?
@@devilmikey00 if selling Polaris was the goal, there isn't a reason to have a new navi card at the same level right now. This is just a fail. Still no upgrade to buy for a Polaris owner except to send them to Nvidia.
People still buy Nvidia even when AMD has better prices, LUL
Except AMD doesn't have better prices...AMD has similar or higher prices with worst performance.
@@materialburst983 I agree & so do nVidia, it's why they don't bother lowering their prices to match AMD for the same performance
You can hear the disappointment in Steve's voice before he even gets into numbers.
5500XT 2100 OC
www.igorslab.de/en/morepowertool-amd-radeon-rx-5700-xt-and-radeon-vii-tweaking-and-overclocking-download-update/?fbclid=IwAR0vs0PW9yzd9g0Z5lK_Ipiw-CJeiu561qu9O2WOBmTpT3iledjp3XETnWQ
Steve: "AMD fans will defend it"
In fact: AMD fans are the one bashing Wattman the most.
Viewers in this moment section are often not the same crowd you see over at r/amd lol
I use OverdriveNtool, no more software crashes causing blue screens etc
@@DSDSDS1235 Oh sure, but Wattman is total shit, everyone knows that.
And AMD fans are the one that actually experience it first hand so they know the most how garbage it is.
Id like to pickup the sapphire 5500 xt,but damn for 30$ more I can but 1660 super wich is way better
I dont like to support nvidia monopoly but in the end Im poor as dirt and have to buy budget
@@krugec23 To think there is still no new budget AMD GPU around 100 dollars saddens us.
Terrible pricing, wtf.
What were you expecting?
@Iama Dinosaur you mean gtx
@Iama Dinosaur idk much about AMD products, but aren't those the old ones?
@@TheVanillatech damn dude. You were making a solid point until you went rabid.
@@d3vastat0r89 I think it's hilarious. Seen it countless times over the years. AMD / ATI release a better card with more features and performance for less money than Nvidias offering, and people be like " Man ... I wanted all those things for A LOT LESS money, like it should cost 50% less than the shittier Nvidia card! I'm gonna just go buy a 1050Ti.....".
Fuck em, it's time they were told.
28:54 gonna have to stop you there Steve, it is possible to overclock fans! Fun fact, you can simply add a voltage booster inline with the fans to overclock them, and most cheapy case fans will survive upwards of 20v (since power = V^2/R, going to 24v gives you 4x the power). Warning though, I’ve had 1 fan blow up at 16v, so afterwards I removed the motor and replaced it with a 2204-2300kv brushless RC airplane/quadcopter motor and the cheap fan blades allow it to go to about 120-130w of power before the blades expand too much and hit the housing (so it’s now essentially a 10 amp rated 120mm case fan). Drill vent holes in the hub for airflow and zip tie the 30 amp speed controller somewhere. I use it for “air cooled” overclock testing. Granted, my 70mm EDF puts this to shame at 65 amps rated at 24v, but that’s a bit rediculous...
If you want a voltage booster that’s plug and play let me know GN, I’ll solder on Molex connectors to both ends so all you do is plug it in between the PSU and the fan and adjust the trim-pot for the voltage you want. Or you can do the same with basically any cheap DC-DC boost converter (some have voltage displays which might be handy). I’ll also send you the fan if you want it (wear safety glasses please! and don’t stand in front of it), but I could probably sand the blade tips down a little so you can push more power before mechanical interference occurs. I made this like 3 years ago and it’s still working. You can have them for laughs if you want (like a comedy review laughing about noise levels or something, and include a Jesus hair blowing test, haha!), if you want em they’re yours!
I pulled the fan out of a small space heater and it's mounting holes perfectly lined up with the 120mm mounts. its now jury rigged to a hotwired extension cord. My CPU stays near ambient with the stock cooler now.
@@badjonatan Jake is talking about a layer 1 overclock with straight voltage while Steve was talking about a layer 2+ overclock
Pg 12 3.3 of 4wire pwm controlled fans specification "if no control signal is present the fan shall operate at maximum rpm"
www.google.com/url?sa=t&source=web&rct=j&url=folk.uio.no/kyrrens/diverse/viftekontroller/developer-specs-REV1_2_Public.pdf&ved=2ahUKEwingPPChrnmAhUNVK0KHcB9DQQQFjAAegQIARAB&usg=AOvVaw1kRqmH96hW7tAwh1D27JkH
I saw blue in the background and bought a Gamers Nexus workbench mat - it's sleek design and high quality construction made it the obvious choice instead of buying a GPU.
Lmao totally worth it.
I would really like to see a revisit video on the 5500XT and 1650Super, because now in 2021 with drivers updated the 5500xt blows the 1650Super out of the water in nearly every title.
I'm actually considering the 5500 XT 8GB as an option for a relatively cheap computer build for getting started with 3D modeling in Blender, and hopefully some VR later after I earn more money doing irregular jobs. I also primarily wanted the computer to run Linux, though I might be forced to duel boot Windows on occasion.
I don't anticipate doing a lot of rendering in Blender, because what I want to focus on is creating textured meshes, not pictures of textured meshes. The use case for them being games. So I don't mind less rendering power as long as it has the VRAM to render if I really need to.
I don't have much interest in most VR games. But there is one specific, very versatile one, which has a lot of user generated content, that almost all my interest is focused on. It's Neos VR, not that I expect the name to be familiar. The user generated content is key important piece of information. Because that will mean that the content I'm likely to see will be highly variable in resource requirements. I have a fairly strong stomach, so I should be able to tolerate lower framerates in VR. And if it turns out to be too bad, I'll just try to save up for a GPU upgrade.
What I really want, is a low cost, relatively recent computer, with an upgrade path that will get me into the requirements for doing the stuff I want to do. I don't currently have a modern computer, so even mid-low end will be a huge upgrade.
I also want all AMD, for the open source drivers, because they should have good support for many years into the future, because the community can make it so.
My last attempt to refresh an older computer failed, because I couldn't find properly updated Linux drivers for my 8+ year old Nvidia GPU. Because Nvidia is too secretive about their precious drivers. So the resolution was locked to a ridiculous tiny size, with an odd refresh rate, and no audio. Though the audio might have partially been the fault of the even older motherboard.
I could have tried updating that computer with newer hardware. But the motherboard was far too old, and technology had moved on too much since it was made in about 2008 or earlier. I couldn't even find solid information on it.
Good, keep complaining about the drivers, AMD needs to get those sorted out, its an embarrassement.
Looks like the new adrenaline 2020 seems to be a hit or miss as always. Makes sense since it is a mayor yearly overhaul of it. Kind of a bummer. But hey, it still looks more modern. And friendlier than Nvidias... no login require too.
@@Deliveredmean42 caused me far more issues than it resolved
That explains the textures not loading on MW after spending $400 on the MSI 5700 XT. I guess.
@@Deliveredmean42 no login require to use NVCP. to be honest i want the control panel to be more responsive but i prefer they keep the way it look the way it is. no need to make it "fancy looking" like how it did with GFE.
Meanwhile there are people out there who claim AMD drivers are superior and say it as fact.
I agree more with the other Steve and Coreteks, getting a 4GB at the end of 2019 is kinda useless specially when u have the RX580 with 8GB for the same price
Well, that's why it's good that Steve from GN puts all this IN CONTEXT. We're talking about a budget card of $160 (4GB model) vs $200 (8GB model) so depending on the types of games you play and your total budget it may very well make more sense to put that $40 elsewhere. Perhaps you only intend that card to last a year or two anyway, then sell it for $100 or so and upgrade later. Not everybody has the same requirements so it's impossible to generalize.
@@photonboy999 you're ignoring the elephant in the room though. The $200 card will play new AAA games at low settings at 30-60hz in 5 years. The $160 will drop to 0hz from time to time on those same games, and consistently run under 30hz the rest of the time. Exceeding available ram is a HUUUUGE break on performance, and we are already seeing games that exceed 8gb now. Games that exceed 4 are commonplace now. And even moreso in the future.
@@Armataan Yep. HUB even had a card that returned no result in one of their benchmarks because of the lack of VRAM.
4 years ago there was a huge card shortage. In the time it took me to get all the parts for my PC build in my shopping cart, the GTX 1650 Super I originally was going to get sold out. I then tried for an RX580, and an 8GB 5500XT. The only card that I was able to get my hands on was the 4 GB 5500XT which I am now seeking to replace.
even tech jesus went sick from this disastrous 5500xt launch, get well steve.
I had high hopes for this card, but... getting destroyed by the 1650 super and at that price? Dead on Arrival.
Yeah. Since there is no reference card we get the overpriced AIB cards, and yet the performance isn't admirable.
at this price it is DOA,because the 1650 is cheaper,and for just abit more money you get 1660 super way better performance,fuck even the 1660 basic model price went down alot
@@krugec23 yea why AMD thought anyone will think $199 5500xt more attractive than a 1660 which goes for about $210 and is definitely faster than this card is beyond me.
$199 for Entry Level 8GB GPU ? ah cmon AMD, with $10 more ... i can get GTX 1660 with reasonably better performance
$209 Entry Level 6GB GPU? ah cmon Nvidia.
@@EdisonChar Quit being a fanboy
@@EdisonChar >calling 1660 entry level
>Better performance on average than rx 5500 xt at the same price
Wew lad
and 2Gb LESS Vram !
Forget the 1660. Gigabytes 1660 Super is only $30 more with a 20 FPS delta on amazon right now.
2017: RX 580 $200
2019: RX 5500XT $200
Me: uhhh???
2019: RX 580 8GB $160 same performance as this.
2019: GTX 1650 Super 4GB is $160 and about the same too.
2019: GTX 1660 Super 6GB is $230 and 25% stronger than all of the above.
Funny to see Nvidia being the value choice against overpriced AMD.
This RX 5500 XT card should be $150 for the 4GB version and $180 for the 8GB version.
@@robertmarder126 and even then, nvidia has that entire lineup 20 bucks over what it should be.
Is Turing all over again.
@@robertmarder126 why even bother with SKUs with less VRAM.......or maybe marketed the 4gb RAM as Rx5400....its stupid and confusing ....its 2019....is it a trend nowadays to confused potential customers? I taught Nvidia bad enough with their super line up and the 16s line up
@@JdMetal 4gb is enough for 1080
Price too high, performance too low. AMD is going to need to rethink those MSRP.
70-80$ RX 470 on aliexpress, that $ to FPS ratio can never be beaten.
@@omfg_its_dave At those prices they would be a great buy, but the "new" RTG is too focused on profit margins, without realizing they *aren't* in the market position nvidia is in which allows them to do that.
Similar performance to the 1650 super and priced near the 1660 Pepega
@@pandabuttonftw745 nvidiot takes it too far which is sad because they really shouldnt be lacking but then again this node is kind of new for amd
@@pandabuttonftw745 Nvidia has more fanboys and way bigger marketing just like Intel. Nothing will change , buy envy cards.
Long live for RX 570 and RX 580, in 2019 still revelant in sub $200 price point.....
-those prices
DOA
They'll go down in the coming months.
@@juniperburton7693 Just like the prices of every other card
@@juniperburton7693 definitely, peeps just buys rx 580 and be done with it. Only case you would choose this if you have a power and/or space limitations.
@Iama Dinosaur That's why I'm so disappointed. The 5700xt smashed nvidias pricing when it came out, I was hoping this would do the same
@PlayVR Good problem to have. Nvidia basically successfully pulled off what intel tried for the 108099909xe
This pricing is garbage , either grab a 580/570 or a 1660 Super. Very disappointing
I hate to admit but yes, I was hoping the 8gb vram version was slightly better,but seems like they are identical except ram size
Or 5700
this comment did not aged well XD XD
Please DO do a livestream showing how, as you mentioned, the overclocking is broken for AMD.
AMD needs to up their gpu team game by a big time cus i don't think anyone would buy the 5500xt at those prices
If the price is like 170 or so for the 5500xt then it'll destroy any Nvidia card in that range.
But, Amd doesn't care much anyway. OEM's are going AMD (cheaper for them)
And they scored the consoles next gen. They're set brother.
I can't believe I am saying this but I hope Intel avenges itself on AMD's gpu division when they get into GPU's soon. I hope they do to AMD [and nVidia] what AMD did to Intel in CPU's!
any user who currently doesnt have a 580-590? lol, cost the same, performs the same, uses half the power, its an easy choice
@@EspHack did you watch the video? rx 590 is better then the 5500 xt and both cost the same
@@NatrajChaturvedi that's not likely to happend, at least not at the first gen, if anything, intel is spending a crap ton of money into optimizing esports titles for their igps (this includes doing the walk to the developers to teach them how to better use their crap), but for AAA , they are basically absent.
I don't want mid range, I want high end that doesn't cost the price of a car!
Just pretend that there's nothing better than mid range, and mid range is, all of a sudden, high end.
That's what nVidia does. They pretend the 2080 Ti is the top card, when it isn't (the Titan is).
They've done it with the GTX 980 Ti, and with the GTX 1080 Ti as well.
I'm pretty happy with my 5700 XT, I'd like to see what they do with 5800 and 5900
@@baneblackguard584 Not a lot and it won't be cheap if they're going to put 16Gb GDDR6 on it. Total overkill in today's market as 2080Ti does fine with 11 although personally I would increase that to 12 (of the faster memory) if they do a 2080Ti Super. Oh and they are STILL on 12nm, not going to get excited about faster AMD cards. OP needs to realise that GPU's are NEVER going to be cheap, that time has passed.
@@clansome I mean, the natural progression for gaming is moving to 14 or 16 GB. We been stuck with 11gb on the high end mainstream for years with nvidia.
@@TiagoMorbusSa Kind of comes with the territory of manufacturing a 750mm² die.... Do you want the 2080ti to cost as much as a titan for (four?) Extra CU's?
As I understand 5500xt is the same as 580, but a bit colder, quieter and less power hungry.
So if anyone thinks which one to buy, 5500 or 580, just buy 1650sup
:)
5700
@@jom_and_terry yeah sry)
WOW AMD, you really let everyone down big time! it's no competition whatsoever. it just slots right in there with Nvidia's price points, wait no, it's even worse!
Nvidia boss: take the rest of the days off boys
just for the record. Nvidia dont give a shit about AMD. They have all the cards in hand. AMD is no where close to Nvidia and it's dissapointing. Cuz Nvidia high end are "little" overpriced and we need AMD for that. But they cant, they are way too far behind
@@KillThemAll7wolf 5700/xt are good highend cards. So amd can definitely make good cards. But in about 1 year they can catch Nvidia in all tiers. They have already lowered their power consumption and heat issues in 5500
@Thato Mokotedi i am that guy. straight facts cuz i am tired hearing these stupid people who have 0 knowledge in tech or business/market, talk, and claim their stupid :)
CPU: This year amd doing so well, 1st reason: They transcend into 7nm(which they are forced ) in order to catch up with Intel
Gpu: Nvidia plays them like a kid. Nvidia have super plant b4 and waiting for AMD to fall into trap.
@@JohnSmith-rq4gw 5700xt is not a good high end card. If you dont know what make a good card is (Spoiler part of it contain driver, software stable / supported etc - like cuda cores from NVidia which are all supported by every software), then I suggest you to do more study. Stop being stupid amd fangay :)
@@brianferguson3833 Re**ded amd fan appear
Please, AMD, make Steve's life "easier" (like 0.1% less stress and insanity) and fix the damn fan profiling!
just checked for fun: here in Germany the rx 5500xt msi Gaming x is 265€ thats GTX1660ti Money for rx 580 performance.LMAO
damn that sucks,because prices here in Croatia are just German prices with small price hike + bigger tax
RIP Moneeeh
Rx 590 performance*
Well in India it costs same as 1660 super .
On Mindfactory.de you can get the 4GB Sapphire for 180€ and the 8GB Powercolor for 210€.
27:10 Please do it Steve, actually please do a video on how broken overclocking feature and fan profile on AMD GPU is.
Maybe AMD will fix them if media who told them that it doesn't work.
Just a regular pervert seriously I change the fan curve hit apply and it goes to what seems like whatever it wants so annoying
Weird, people on Reddit usually say the 5700xts oc like beasts and thus are faster than a 2100mhz 2070s 🤣
@@charlyy1337 it does overclock like a beast but you have to use afterburner which I mean is fine but it would be a lot easier if you could it with Radeon software I have mine OCD around there
@@Mustanggt505 Weird, in all benchmarks I barely saw any difference between aftermarket 5700xts and something like even the 5700 xt anniversary (most expensive blower with highest clocks)
@@charlyy1337 I think it's silicon lottery bro idk how but my card works a lot better with over clock like 10-9 fps not huge but worth doing
$30-$50 less and this would be competitive
wouldnt be surprised if they drop the price by 25-50 just like the 5700 series
It's competitive at current price. However AMD honestly have to have better at lower price.
@@gismo3564 It's performance is on par with 1650S with a 50$+ price, how is that competetive??
@@gismo3564you contradicted yourself lmao
Yeah that would be a much more sane price
Steve="I apologize if I'm a bit nasally" Me=*makes no distinction from how you normally talk* get well bro lol
$30 more gets you the 1660 Super. No-brainer.
$50 dollars less gets you a 580.
wingracer 16 a card from 2016
Poo Head rx 480 2016 = rx 580
@@wingracer1614 True, that's another great choice but it's starting to lag behind a bit. There's also the NVENC codec which made me go for the 60S. One things's for sure: Any of them's better than this crap.
"Putting gamer in the title is one of the worst marketing decisions amd has made" -Gamers Nexus
27:16 *palpatine* : Do it!
"R.I.P to the competition" Fab voice!
I just got an XFX 5500xt 8gb card. I put it into a 7700k system for 1080p. I see over 7gb of VRAM usage playing Modern Warfare at 1920x1080 maxed out settings locked at 60fps. Get the 8gb card.
What are you doing AMD? At those prices this is DOA. Not even 5% improvement over the 480/580 after 3 years is a lackluster and that price is a JOKE...
This should be $150/180, because $200+ should be for the RX5600, What's gonna be that one then? another very bad priced GPU just like every recent AMD GPU since RX590?
nope its should get 60USD price cut
Probably(/hopefully) to clear 570/80 stock. Hope the Rx 5600 will be the replacement for the RX 580 at least.
@@pantzman question is... the pricing of rx5600 series.. if like this card rx5500xt #overpriced
The thing is,right now,Nvidia are not offering any game bundles.So if you would buy any of AMD's bundle games for full price,or even half price(and the 3 month XGP), 5500's Compatibility it's not that bad at the moment...
Once Nvidia put out a new game bundle,AMD can drop their price then,it's not like they hadn't done that before.
No improvement? What about improvement in power consumption and heat.?
The driver issues are real. I like the new 2020 driver but if I change anything in the performance tuning section on my 5700XT it will just... go to a blank screen the same color as the wall paper.... I have to reboot the PC to fix it. It's a good thing I have a 2nd monitor because that monitor doesn't blank out, just the first. Also when it reboots the white text on the blue background on the reboot is also missing....
Works for me.
I had hopes this would be a good upgrade path from the RX 580, which is definitely showing its age. Looks like it's a complete wash. Damn it.
Same
Keith Everson just get a good deal on a 5700 I have seen 310 and 335 for 5700xt including rebates
Showing its age? How? People on reddit constantly say the 570 is the GOLD standard for 1080p ultra 60hz 😂
@@charlyy1337 Red Dead 2, for one. It runs, yes, but so close to the bottom range where my adaptive sync stops working that I get weird stuttering as it moves in and out.
What's your price range? I got a used 1080 in California for $250
I was waiting for lower end Navi pretty much 1 year ago when instead AMD released the RX590.
I have bought my used (pretty much new) GTX1060 6GB this year at the end of March for 135 euros.
I was worried but now I think that I have definitively made the right move.
Price drops incoming in 1-2 months
4gb variant revised priced - $150.
8gb variant revised price - $170.
Otherwise the RX series will kill it in the long run especially RX 590.
Post-holiday sales will remove 570/580/590 from stock; price drops on 5500XT now would stick board partners with a lot of old cards. Once the others vanish, price will drop.
There's a clear gap in the market at $250 for Vega 56-like performance, yet AMD decide to put out another 580 equivalent 😒
Not really a hole, you can get a Vega 56 for that.
@@wingracer1614 Sure, but at this point I'd want the newest architecture. That's what AAA games are going to be built on for the next 3-5 years after all.
The fact you didn't just post your RX580 or even RX 480 video to review these cards surprised me, your a machine. Thank you
The only thing worth mentioning was that the stuffed cat is cute
Jayz and you guys simultaneously upload, guess who won the view
Tech jesus always wins 💪
@Sean Price Your thinking of Barneycleets.
I watched hardware unboxed and now gamers nexus. I might watch jayz next or maybe bitwit for entertainment purposes only.
You’d have to be wearing drunk googles to want this one
Exactly 😂😂
goggles*
googles is Google's... plural?
Only Lyle could love this one (I think he just stole his brother's drunk googles)
I want this card, and iam not drunk! Iam stupid
Google is always drunk ain't it?
all these comments about if it were 20 dollars cheaper, ITS 20 BUCKS DUDE IF YOU'RE DROPPING MONEY INTO A PC, 20 DOLLARS IN THE LONG RUN IS DIRT CHEAP. i get it, they shouldnt price gouge, BUT with that being said, they could have charged more. 20 out of a $1000 build aint shit and yall know that.
I haven't encountered the fan profiling problems EVER...
Because there is a water-block on my 5700XT
OMEGALUL. you still have driver problem. amd are full of shit :)
:D same
Damn those prices. Did Nvidia launch these cards?
Paul from Not an Apple Fan should see these comments. He’d have a laugh
Great video, but could you use more relative colors when comparing two data values of two parts? For example, at 7:30 it was kind of difficult for me to see which lines went with each GPU without going back and forth multiple times. If you instead chose to use shades of orange for the Power Color metrics and shades of blue for the pulse metrics, this would make it easier to see which lines are related.
Thanks!
You could do anothher video to compare how good the 5500 xt age
No "jebaited" on this release ?
Guess guess AMD wont fix their prices now that Nvidia released their GPUs first
Os / Hs naaaah, jebaiting consumers that is
rx 570 is only 110$ on newegg, get that one instead
I am so sad about the Navis :(. I was hoping to upgrade my RX 570
@@Dwayneff get a 1660super or an rx 5700 if you have a bit more money
@@Dwayneff Get RX 5700.
@@Dwayneff Quit gaming and go read a book.
@@lagarttemido maybe do both?
My 5500xt 8gb was so much better than my RTX 2060 XC ultra.... These benchmarks are so different than my experience
Radeon Software 2020 is sooo AMAZING!!! I love the new style and it is Mindblowing to play my PC games everywhere i want on Mobile or what ever with AMD App.
Thank you Team Red i love your work
The 1650 Super is basically a 1060 with 4gb of VRAM. They should've gave the 5500 XT another 2 CUs
@AustinSBL306 1650 Super is roughly equal to 1060 6GB
So, seems like the old RX580 is an better bang for a buck compared with the RX5500 XT.
I have read the written review from Digital Foundry prior to watching this, and among the games they've benchmarked, only Assassin's Creed Odyssey and Ghost Recon Wildlands saw a really significant performance uptick from having 8GB. Choosing between one or the other will definitely be down to the real-life price difference, which is bound to fluctuate in time. Actually, choosing between this or the GTX 1650 Super will be down to real-life pricing as well.
Hope you get well soon Steve!
AMD driver fan control, another example of why a simple TNC and Op-Amp analog circuit is orders of magnitude better than any software fan control solution. the analog TNC and Op-Amp circuit actual works, lol.
Great vid Steve and crew. hope ye is feeling better soon Steve. B)
amd is not doing good at all in the graphics card department right now , especially software wise.
Plz dont do the RX 5500 XT review again. They are real good right now and im saving money for one.
22:22 to get to the recap of all the findings
Anandtech give an analysis of Amd's thinking in the Product Positioning & Competition section:
"... some expectation management is in order here. While the RX 5500 XT replaces the RX 500 series within AMD’s immediate product stack, RX 5500 XT and Navi 14 are *not* meant to be upgrades for the RX 500 series. That is a job for the RX 5700 series.
Instead, the RX 5500 XT is closer to an upgrade for the Radeon RX 560; Navi 14 is by and large the 7nm successor to Polaris 11. AMD has been selling the RX 580 and RX 570 cards for very cheap over the last 18 months, and while this has led to some great deals, it has admittedly distorted the market a bit.
For the moment, at least, AMD isn’t looking to deliver substantially more performance at $160-$200 than they were before. Instead, it’s about delivering newer, more efficient technologies."
and re. Nvidia:
" ... the two companies are very narrowly and very specifically controlling their prices and product positioning, there’s not quite a 1:1 match between Radeon and GeForce parts right now.
The 4GB RX 5500 XT is $10 more expensive than the GeForce GTX 1650 Super, and the 8GB RX 5500 XT is $10 cheaper than the GeForce GTX 1660. This also happens to pretty accurately reflect their relative performance: the 5500 XT can match wits with the 1650 Super, but it falls short of the 1660."
So basically the GPU doesn’t have the horsepower to take advantage of the extra VRAM.
as usual, it depends on games. If you set high texture quality and mods, 4Go of VRAM can be the bottleneck. In the video, this is visible at 11:13 with the SOTTR results showing huge perf differences even at 1080p.
i have a 5500xt thats hitting over 2ghz on sky diver on 3d mark. in place 5 atm with a ryzen 5 3600 as jfrownfrjhs. cant get higher because of my cpu score. but really think it is silicone lottery
Same here my RX5500XT ASUS OC Dual has an automatic OC up to 1965mhz and I paid 200 quid for her like a month ago. Power consumption doesn't tax my 450W PSU at all, noise is basically zero ... I love this card it was cheap it does ultra on all games at 1080p/60 and is happy to run undervolted with no performance drop. I much prefer this card over my 1660ti which I had nothing but problems with as it wants more power than I am willing to send it and that is WITHOUT any OC!
Welcome to the rx5500xt circle jerk
If the price/performance was swapped with Nvidia, the 5500XT would dominate the market. Only AMD has to compete on price so that people can more cheaply buy the Nvidia card they actually wanted in the first place.
I'm glad i picked up a sapphire pulse 8gb rx590 on cyber Monday for $180, beats out the rx 5500xt 8gb as for that price in my opinion especially considering sapphire cards are usually more pricey i bet those 5500xt 8bg will be 220$, or maybe even more considering my rx 590 is $250 if you didn't buy on cyber Monday
This gpu is nonsense. They should have made a gpu with the performance of an rx 590 maybe with a 5 per cent uplift in performance with that good navi reduced consumption and a 180 dollar price point.
Shocked AMD WAY Over-priced these cards compared to the 1650 Super!! These should be ~ $150!
They'll hopefully drop like a rock after Christmas - AMD might just be trying to squeeze as much money out of the release as possible.
The price is bad because there are still tons of 570/580/590 around at very good prices
Thanks guys!
I still see no reason to upgrade from my RX 470 8G.
People with r9-290x's have been saying the same thing
Go and try playing No Mans Sky at full detail at 1080p/60 VSync locked then come back and we will talk ;)
Yeah... I'll stick with my 8GB 480 for another year...
Thanks for your hard works
Great indicator as to have efficient RDNA is over GCN
5500 = 580
Navi - GNC
1408 vs 2304
128bit vs 256
130w vs 185w
Now if they can get the power down by 15%
Not exciting, but neither was the 480 or 580.
PCI-e 4.0?
Jesus - an RTX Titan can't even fill 3.0.
Marketing.
@@DefWun well that and you could run it off an x4 slot and still not lose any performance. Like in a laptop, perhaps.
@@andreewert6576 what modern laptop have pcie 4.0 that doesn't come with an absurd price and an op gpu already?
i love how the 1080ti is still kicking ass after so long
although, that's mostly Nvidia's fault for not making a better card
Elinzar The 2070s is just as good as the 1080ti. The issue is that u can’t buy decently priced 1080tis anymore, especially if u dont wanna play the used gpu gamble game
@@charlyy1337 The 2070 was an insult to gamers (the Super is what it should have been in the first place). No SLI? Seriously? And far less RAM. The 2080 was even worse, same performance at massively higher cost, etc. The entire 20x0 stack is a tier or two higher than it should be, proven by the die sizes and NVIDIA's own comments to investors. Only thing that makes it worse is AMD is copying the price hiking, because consumers have just accepted it.
@Transistor Jump how come?
Transistor Jump The VRAM in the 2070S is significantly faster than the 1080Ti VRAM. In fact it’s so much faster that have only 8gb is better than 11gb of slower memory.
@Transistor Jump The1080 Ti has only 11gb/s memory while the 2070 Super has 14gb/s. Plus a 2070 Super can overclock another 1000mhz making it faster. bandwidth doesn't mean anything if the memory isn't fast. The 1080 Ti only has GDDR5 memory anyways.
Dammit Steve, don't you DARE apologize for being sick. Wonderful review and work as always.
Glad to see that 1080ti FTW3 I picked up 2.5 years ago still destroys most stuff.
I was waiting 8 months 8 frickin months for my 580 replacement and now this !!
I am disappointed and my day is ruined . What they where thinking while pricing this ? Who is this for ? And why this exists ? It would be better to price 580 at 150$ officially it still it would have worked better .
I'd wait for the rumored RX 5600XT. But to be honest a Vega 56/64 or 5700/5700XT would be a better upgrade.
@@ej1025 well i know a 5700xt is a good product but i am out of budget there .
And 5600 will not come till January next month and who knows when they will hit the stores . So very disappointing situation for AMD
@@rickbhattacharya2334 I feel you there, maybe the 1660 Super/1660Ti might be a better option. I'd stick with the 580 though, that's what i'm doing.
So while nvidia keeps making 1080 ti under different name, amd just made yet another rx 480. And with 2016 pricing to boot...
don't get the hate. for 180€ right now, it's totally worth the money and the low power consumption requires a cheaper power supply.
price/performance wise it's sitting directly between 1650s and 1660. why aren't people complaining about those?
Steve, you've been complaining for two years about fan profiles in AMD's software - I've been complaining to AMD about its graphics drivers/software since the Radeon 6950! Not sure what it is about AMD and software, whether it's incompetency or deliberate, but that's a major issue that puts me off AMD's graphics products (even when they are technically better value).
The amd drivers are not only inconsistent, they even are unstable.
I had the RX590 for a year now with allot of RMAs and finaly will get a refund since it always crashed
Why would you rma if its a software issue and not a hardware issue.
@@Sirtoastsalot its probably both, i had 1 590 then the other 590 After the rma, and now i send it in for my money because it had nearly the same issues, and obviously they need to improve the software even the new one from about 2days away
It just didnt work, even with 850watts of power on a PSU
And if its a software issue that throws me out of game... then its still a rma reason for me.
When you can buy an rx580 8GB for 140€ regularly, WHY would you buy THIS???
Adrenaline 19.12.2 is fu**ing garbage. It removed my oc on my cpu and took the xt flash off my 5700. It took me all day for 2 days to dial everything back in like I had it. It also DOESN'T HAVE FRTC!!!!!! So you have to use chill as a framerate cap. Love the vid guys!
Steve, it is extremely possible that their "fan profiling" issues in their drivers have existed since their Polaris lineup: I can't recall the LAST time my RX 480 started to either not spin, stay at a slower RPM (in game, even if I just told it to go faster at around 70 - 80C), or ramp up to 100% and then back down, as if it was still running a fan check (like in Sapphire TRIXX: another GPU overclocking software that needs a lot of work); the latter just happened several times in one. Fucking. *DAY*.
Key note: I bought this amazing card since 2016; a few months after Polaris came out.
I spy with my little eye, the waifu...
So the same old buggy AMD launch drivers...now with 3 year old performance and an Nvidia-like price increase. The GPU market continues to be utterly depressing to follow.
Simply the best (review) better than all the rest.
PCI-E 4.0 unleashed performance with the new RX 5500 XT at just $199
XT = EXTREME
PCI-E 4.0 is amazing!
I'll just stick to my RX 460 : )
You guys should start uploading videos on other platforms like bitchute
I know, I've been waiting on floatplane for steve to come on. Soon enough these videos will be removed for "bullying corporations", which don't forget are people too.
Peertube or LBRY, would be much better
@@coriae I second the LBRY option!
I definitely agree with the drivers issue. All through the 2019 drivers the fan curves have been screwed. At the fourth node and onwards for manual curves the fans completely ignore the curve and ramp up a load, which really is my sole issue. Sapphire Trixx has been able to maintain lower temperatures at lower fan speeds somehow. I do love being able to set different wattman profiles for different games, even if amd doesnt detect them all (it doesnt seem to detect microsoft store games), and being able to set voltage and clock speeds for different loads in the profile is nice too.
I bought a 1660 Ti at the beginning of October, but after seeing what has come in the last quarter of the year, I'm glad I didn't bother to wait. Kind of wish that the 5500XT would have came in at a lower price, I would have liked something for Linux VM stuff.
Maybe once new Polaris stock is scarce, these cards may shine. I hope AMD is playing the long game with them.
Honestly, from a laymen's perspective on a moderate/low budget I'd say the 1660 Ti is the only GPU out there right now that's sensibly priced! I've been looking around for the last few months and the lower end cards offer only a marginal gain on my old 970, and the prices aren't worth it. And then the higher end cards are priced like top-tier enthusiast grade stuff was a few years ago, and the current "mid range" like the 2060 or 5700 are priced like last gens high end stuff... the 1660 Ti is the only thing that stands out as a good value, and even that I'm looking for discounts on!
(Maybe I'm just cheap lol, but it seems like GPU prices have gone way up and the value has dropped in recent years)
Good product, utter failure in pricing.
8Gb version is extremely meaningless in terms of pricing.
Has been that way since the 290X came out. But OTOH nothing makes a card stay relevant longer than going with the higher VRAM option. You could spend money on OC variants, backplates and shiny RGB, but that VRAM upgrade actually helps kepping the card for another year. Don't believe me?
Look at HD 7870, the 2GB models still run RDR2 on low, but the "base" 1GB doesn't. The rebranded versions sometimes even came with 4GB!
Look at R9 285, yeah i know, forgotten little card, but it's 2GB variants are worthless by now. 380X was the same card but with 4GB, still very usable.
R9 Fury only had 4GB, plus it had problems getting all its shaders utilized below 4K. 4GB in 4K was allright back in '15, but it's a stretch now.
290X/390X are still in some charts on this video. Arguably, the GPUs aren't fast enough to process the textures and effects that would need 8GB. But the SOTR performance would surely be hit in the same way.
So like i said, it always has been that way. Pay 20% more if you like to keep your card forever. Buy the cheaper card if you're upgrading every three years.
@@andreewert6576 this might not be case for Navi, since there likely won't be "fine wine" feature due to relatively simplified architecture and 128b bus instead of 256b.
I highly doubt possibility of past cases. 290X one of the best, if isn't the best future proof card from price/perf standpoint, but GCN did the magic.
@@andreewert6576 I honestly wouldn't play in 4k with a 5500XT, so the 4GB in 4k was alright back in '15 is kinda moot point... because the card just lacks the performance to be relevant in any newer game in 4K. Unless you want to drop details.. but then you just can go to 1080p instead
8gb is for mining, you need it there.
Meanwhile people are selling their old r9 Fury cards for 250 to 150. Compound that with how easy it is to get a relatively cheap, safe, high-ish wattage psu and you got a base for an emulation box and pretty decent 1440p gaming. The R9 Fury is a fun card, a pain to overclock, but still good enough in most instances.
My takeaway is that the low-end just currently isn't very good. The 5700 and 5700XT provide about linear performance/price improvement compared to the 5500XT. The 5700XT is a great card and if anyone has the money to get one... get one (and actually needs a new card). It's great at 1440, outstanding at 1080, and acceptable at 4k. Also, it's a far better value than anything Nvidia has from the 2060 Super on up.