BMW (N54/N55/B58) PRE-TUNING CHECKLIST! Watch This Before You Tune Your Car!
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- Опубликовано: 13 май 2019
- Today I decided to go over a quick rundown of things that are highly recommended to do prior to tuning your turbocharged BMW. If you have any questions, feel free to ask me or someone in the comment section below! Also make sure to leave a thumbs up on this video and subscribe for more awesome content!
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I am going broke with all this N55 maintenance, added more to the list 😂. I still love her tho!. Good info bro.
Nah pretty much everything but the injectors together costs less than 600$
Same
Wish me luck I bought my first bmw which is 335I a week ago
@@Skywalker20000 me 2,shes on the road next week, how is it going for you?
g vg just bought mine today, has been an amazing day
Great info! Kick that knowledge. Two of these things are why I haven't gotten a real tune yet.
thanks man! yea definitely some important tips i thought id share
Very helpful !always coming out with great videos .keep up the good work🤙
thanks so much man! Thanks for watching!
Good video. Should be noted, a charge pipe upgrade is NOT required on the B58 cars. At least not for moderate power levels. Its a completely different design on that platform than the earlier N54/N55 engines and I guess BMW was listening to the performance world when they built it. I've seen tuners take them upwards of 500-600hp on the stock charge pipe. Comparatively, I've heard of owners blowing the charge pipe on an N55 at stock power levels.
For that matter, and intake upgrade isn't really necessary on a B58 up to those power levels either. If you're going to upgrade it for "noise", that's up to the owner...but from a performance standpoint, the intake system on this engine is pretty solid.
One of the reason I chose the B58 platform. The charge pipe, intake and intercooler(B58 uses and air to water) are all very capable, right out of the gate.
Thanks for the information I just but a tune but didn’t think about these factors
Great content. Cheers ! Nice choice on your cars.
thanks man, appreciate the support!
Thanks! This was super helpful, I was planning on tuning my car this summer and I'm a bit of a newbie so this was a great introduction. You should make a video on the different tunes (BM3 vs JB4)
thank you bro! Appreciate the suggestion, definitely a video idea that i plan on filming!
Jb4 is old. BM3 or MHD is where it’s at!!!
Great info Omar, thank you!
you're welcome, Philip! Thanks for watching
Jake Spence is the man. 135i goals right there. Great vid man
thanks brotha!
Maintenance before mods! I’d do gasket replacements before tuning as well personally. Valve cover gasket, oil filter housing, cooler, oil pan etc
definitely some great preventative maintenance that will not hurt!
Absofreakinlutely!!
How much would getting your gaskets replaced cost tho?
@@tball4746 I’d imagine it would depend on your area. I did most of the work myself, so I’m not too sure on labor. I did have a BMW tech do the oil pan for me and charged me around $700. But, this was on the side and about two years ago.
Dude, were all broke haha, i have a 535i and i have put like 4-5 grand in, im fbo and now i put again 4 grand in, pure stage 1s, inlets-outlets, oil catch cans.. But i still need a coil pack and spark plugs plus walnut blast and all the money for installation, and finally a custom tune haha.. I want to make sure i do everything before i tune it that it would last with no issues.. A lot of pain and tears, but at the end of the day, its all worth it. That is what we love! Cheers!
Would you recommend an 08 535i that has 168000 miles for just a few grand? Or is that not a good move
After weeks of searching having no clue what the issue was I finally found out the reason my n54 335is was shaking so bad under high load but the issue would stop after restarting the car. Basically when these cars misfire badly enough the car shuts off the injector to that cylinder until the car is restarted. If I would have replaced my plugs and coils before going mhd stage 2+ this wouldn’t have happened😅 plugs and coils coming this week though👌🏼
good stuff man! I did the same when i first tuned my car, so i cant blame you lol!
Bro same thing happened to me after I went stage 2+. The whole car went limp on full throttle and scared the shot out of me. Coils and sparks plugs were the culprit.
Same thing on e36's. Had water in the plugwell, it would misfire and then drop a cylinder out off the mix to prevent misfires at the wrong time, either bending valves or connecting rods. Looking at an n55 or n54 currently. You like yours??
Peyton Graf Was there also a rough idle at the start? It might be my coil packs as I think they are sketchy, however the JB4 appears to be showing a fuel injector issue, did the coils solve your problems?
Can you please recommend parts to get next video like what coils,spark plugs etc are good to get for tuning
stage 2 mHD is no joke. It’s a different beast 👅
Ong stage 1+ is serious too😳
N55 and B58 do not suffer from carbon build up like the N54. The PCV system in the N55 was improved greatly and believe me carbon cleaning is barely needed.
You are completely wrong
N55 is shit . After 2 years on mhd stage one 370hp i brake my rod bearing 🤣🤣. What a weak ass engine 🤣🤣
@@pppppp549 watch my vid lol my rod bearings went out
B58 is supposedly the best of them all for not needing blasting as often!
@@pppppp549 How frequent did you change the engine oil? Did you warm up the car before properly driving it ? As well Which type of oil did you use. Provide more information such as mileage on the vehicle and etc. I don't want the same thing to happen to me so I am quite curious.
Thank you in advance.
If your going stage 1, stage 1 +; you do not need to do anything whatsoever to the b58 block. Stage 2, 2+ requires a aftermarket downpipe, no particulate filter and a high pressure fuel pump. These are only necessary additions past stage 1. Stock block is pretty damn strong, can hold like 600 whp.
You should make a video on changing spark plugs and ignition coils bro! I've yet to do that on our whips.. teach me up 👊
its so easy i did it after a couple dabs just dont twist it the wrong way
@@Figglesprout Haha good to know then! I've never done it yet. Thanks man
you bet brotha, when I replace mine i'll for sure make a video on it!
Look up jake spence on yt
Quick question - I just upgraded my charge pipe to evolution racewerks, new spark plugs and coils, and walnut blast. Do I also need an upgraded open intake for MHD stage 1? I've read online that this is recommended, but just seeing if the additions I have above will suffice. Thanks
Thanks for the tips 👍
Outro song?
Great Video man. Quick question tho' can I do a stage 2 tune with the factory catted downpipe, aftermarket charge pipe and factory intercooler?( 2015 x5 335i). Plus which tune is best suited for this model? Thanks for your response.
I had no clue a walnut blast ACTUALLY involved real walnuts lol
Lol that's funny. Why would they call it that otherwise . It is weird though right
Just get a B58. It requires the least preparation for gains and all the annoying issues with n54/55 engines are ironed out
We dont got the moolah for that my man
@@sipsimies1588 😂
Yea if you have the money for it 😂
N54 is a better engine tho forged internals ftw...
@@tball4746 agreed that’s why I bought 1
Love my n54
Great content bro. Just curious what FMIC and charge pipe you have installed to the m235 for stage 2? I’m in the market for one, getting bm3 very soon.
Thanks man! so far im on the stock intercooler still. chargepipe is upgraded with a BMS unit
I feel like coils arnt needed as much on the n55 spark plugs for sure tho
I just want to add if you have a 2007-2008 N54 engine the charge pipe is different compared to the newer ones and stronger so its probably fine not changing them at least in my experience.
same here, my 07 never had an issue with the stock chargepipe on 17psi
@@SimplyCarThings Had the same experience with mine
Yeah cuz my 09 335i came crack 😆
Just blew my charge pipe this weekend had some problems have it installed and still have check engine lights, look like I’ll be taking it to a shop this week, currently running burgermotorsports stage 1 tune on my bmw 435i
How'd it go? I upgraded my chargepipe and I still have a service engine soon light. I know I have an oil change due in 700 miles but I'm not sure if the light would come up that soon.
Esdras Diaz My throttle body was apparently damaged when the charge pipe broke, I’m still running the stage 1 tune but getting lights still when I push on it. I’m going to removing the tune as the next step
do not forget to change the oilpan to the S55 one
I just got a 2014 Bmw 535i M package and i would like to tune it! everything is stock at the moment any suggestions?
True, you definitely need to change spark plugs and coil packs😂😂 it won’t hurt it’s cheap, prevent them misfire and limp modes
100% you know how it is haha!
Mine misfired that’s why I’m here lol
walnut blasting isn't really needed in the N55 like it was in the N54, iirc someone did it at 60k and the valves still looked fine, maybe after the 100k mark? and when changing the spark plugs, depending on the tune, sometimes a step colder and different gap are recommended so double check before just slapping new oem plugs.
If u floor it occasionally will u still need to at 100k mark and were talking pure redline for at least 3 gears
Stock plugs should be okay but will definitely have to be replaced a lot quicker than one step colder plugs
what do you think i should do to my 2021 m340?
What was that juice wrld song in the intro
Can you make a video just about the n55
Hey man, 2016 m235i w 32k miles (bought at 27k) looking to go piggy back - BMS stage one. Lot of people saying I can do charge pipe and intake (both would also be BMS) and then throw the tune on and I’ll be good to go. What’s your opinion on that? Should I take more precautions? I doubt for the tune I’m looking at I’ll need more mods to support but what do you think
Hey bro! I like the route you’re
taking and you should be fine with those mods, however I would recommend to go with a flash tune and not a piggy back. In my experience piggy backs hardly change the performance of the car in a noticeable manner, Flash tunes do. Get bootmod3!
N54 you said get index 12 what about the n55 platform what could I go with
Got a question about 2012 bmw 740li n54 engine who can tune it?
Can we get lean burn piezo injectors in the US?
I just picked up a 2007 bmw 335xi, the car was well maintained old man owned. What should the first thing I should do . Only things I would like to do is exhaust, down pipe air flow and intake and tune any suggestions .
Change all gaskets
Change Voltage regulator
Change all plastic to silicone
Upgrade spark plugs 2-step colder
Upgrade coil packs
Get a oil catch can
And walnut blast
A walnut blast done wrong can surely harm your car. Good vid.
Thank you!
Walnut blast video link?
Bro what coils and plugs should I go with??? I got an e92 335i 2011 with n55 at 76000kms and a lot of people say ngk laser iridium... I have Bosch ones I got from fcpeuro and coils are still good ? What do you suggest i do bro if i switch everything ? Thanks bro. Planning to go full bolt on stage 2 this summer at 400hp.
Garage Nineteen i just got mine, order ngk iridium 97506 sparks. they are the best. you might want to gap it to .18 if your around stage 2 or more
@@n54single you mean 0.018? The forums all say around 0.02? And yeah but is it necessary to also do my coils?? And if I do change them, is it ok to go with oem or like with Bosch ones since they all kinda do the same thing ?
@@issaalmasuodi4111 well the forums say for n55 or n54 tuned you need it to be at 0.0223 or 0.03, so when you said 0.18 i assumed you meant 0.018 and i think that would be too far from the sparking place.. it would be too cold i guess you can say? the laser iridium come pregapped at 0.03.. personally i will leave them at that because of my cold winters here, i dont want the car to run too cold or else it wont start lol (montreal). The info i just said is because i just read the NGK website lol i am searching around.www.partcat.com/ngkca
Good video
thanks bro 🙏🏼
How necessary are swapping out fresh spark plugs when going Stage 1 on BootMod3?
Very necessary, just do it to save you the hassle from getting misfires
Good video, but a mic would help, I could hardly hear over the drone of the car. Making it difficult to go to the end.
Do you have to get your intake walnut blasted if you are going to install an uprated intake like forge or eventuri? Regarding n54
No but just do it if you have high miles
Im on the process of doing this before going mhd
great to hear man!
heatchamps2011 This is why I’ve been researching and searching for N55 mod lists. Not a lot of people have 335xi’s tho. More difficult for me.
If you do the walnut blast on the N55 before tuning it how long before you will need to do it again or how often should do a walnut blast
If you do walnut blast on your car I recommend getting an oil catch can it will reduce the buildup by a lot so you probably won’t need a another blast for quiet a bit!
What is the intro song name?
for B58 do you prefer JB4 for full DME tune? If DME which vendor?
Bootmod3!
Yeah didn’t tune my n54 just did FBO large intercooler catless dp intake and remove engine code in MHD. Not gonna push it though I could. But realistically I’m just daily driving it easy I have brand new turbos and I even cruise 67 in a 75 becaus so don’t want to hurt the rotating assembly take care of your cars.
Crazy how index 12s are like 4k now
Anyone know name of song at the end
Anyone know if the n26 is ever in need of walnut blasting at higher mileage?
yesssir, walnut blasting is highly recommended on those motors
Vrsf catted dp for e90 n54? Only see them for n55.
im not too sure, im sure its out there but probly way more expensive since there's two of them
First mod for every direct fuel injection car, an oil catch can
What about b58 ?????
Did you get a PPI before you got your F22? I’m playing on picking up one at the end of the year and I’m starting to make my own little checklist of known issues such as water pump, charge pipe, etc.
i actually didnt do a ppi, bought the car on the spot no warranty either. so far absolutely flawless, and im honestly expecting it to be that way
Simply Car Things right on. Looking forward to seeing the build progress!
@@frasierhaber4388 appreciate that man! Thanks for following along!
You need to change b58 coils after 100k miles and spark plugs every 40k mikes
wow, that's a very long interval
Hi, I had my 2011 bmw e92 N55 with 102K KM now,
And I got my belt squawking problem, I had already replace the belt tensioner and belt but it still squawking after several days.
When in cold start it will squawk so loud, but pull some water to the belt pulley it will stop immediately(after the water running dry will squawking again)
The squawking will totally stop after the car run hot untill next day.
*The oil filter housing gasket had already replaced after leaking
Is it necessary to replace full set of drive belt kit even replace the crankshaft pulley(some said it might one of the problem too)?
I know this problem it might be a common issue for N55 engine, I'm still finding the solution. If there has any way to find out what exact problem is, I can fix the car easily.
Kinds Regard
If you had an oil leak it could be on your belts. I had a cricket sound. Got the serpentine belt replaced and two gaskets under warranty for oil leak.
clean_ 335ix the belt also replaced but it still squeaking, so I had no idea which parts makes the sound comes up
to add to the spark plug info video : www.briskusa.com/spark_plug_cross_reference_heat_range_chart
this says pretty much everything there is to know about spark plugs! enjoy guys!
Since buying mine of done
New valve cover
Ofh gasket
Intake manifold gasket
Charge pipe
Ignition coils, spark plugs
One fuel injector
Brake rotors, pads, fluid
Intake valve cleaningswith crc
Intake filter
Cabin air filter
Hey Omar quick question dude, would it be wise to walnut blast a 2006 330xi? It’s AN NA engine so it’s not turbocharged but I’m wondering whether or not it still uses direct injection. Edit; Only reason I can see myself doing so is to have the engine running a lot smoother. The car has 75,000km.
no problem man, so with the N52 motors in the 330i's they are actually port injection, meaning each valve is actually cleaned off with each injection of gasoline. I dont think its necessary personally to do a walnut blast, but im sure it wouldnt hurt!
@@SimplyCarThings Thanks for the quick response man, good to hear there should be next to no build up
My e36 is port injection, agree.
Bmw will walnut blast my n20?!
Damn walnut blast in Dallas area $700
Better off buying the tools for it or hoping one of your friends have it
Omar , I have the same car like yours M235I xdrive, a lot of debate about spark plugs? What's the best spark plugs for this car ? Thanks kindly advise I'm running a tune .
OEM plugs will do just fine unless you are running very high power then NGK's will likely do the trick
Thanks Bro .
What do you recommend for a B58? I have less than 15,000 miles on it and I am planning on getting a MHD tune but only stage 1. Any recommendation? Thanks.
Go BM3.
MHD is a great platform, protuning freaks and bootmod3 is also a great route, cant go wrong with either
Naw stay with MHD.
Hi, I recently bought a 2008 335i N54 with 70000kms
I have driven it for 2000kms and did maintenance and replaced all oils and replaced the spark plugs with Bosch ZGR6STE2 oem ones.
And after 200km the car started giving me the reduced engine power warning but the car did not enter on limp mode, actually the warning go away after 2-3 seconds and then come back.
On nice smooth roads the car doesn’t gives me any warning but on bumpy one it does. With the warning on the car doesn’t feel any different, I floored it when the warning came on and the car feels good, no reduced power.
The warning comes for 2-3 seconds and go away and come back again, is almost intermittent.
Idk what to do, I am suspecting a boost leak on a vaccum line.
Thanks fo the help.
Edit: I took the car to the mechanic and put a scanner on it and it doesn’t have any stored codes, no check engine light, anything.
Eduardo Ramirez get your coil packs and vanos solenoids looked at. That could also trigger low power. If bumpy roads are causing it I’m wondering if it could be a loose connection somewhere. It’s hard to guess with no codes stored, but if it happens enough times it will end up being stored as a hard code (one that doesn’t go away with a restart)
enigmo08 Going to check those, I recently change the sparkplugs, maybe one of the coils is not in the right place.
It has happened like 40 times and is not stored in anything ee checked engine, transmission, abs, airbags and no codes founds.
I am really annoyed with that because I have driven the car only 2000kms😔
Eduardo Ramirez it’s most likely a loose connection like the guy above said, if the coils are jumping around on bumps that’ll trigger it.
Hey. Is the car running a JB4? If it does it may be why the engine light keeps going away as they have a code reset function. Just a thought.
@@krisgriffin9090 Nope, its stock
Catch cans after walnut-blast or you’ll be doing it again.
Steve Kalesia in my experience, valves get gunky with or without catch can. I notice the can helps with oil blow by but that’s about it
Mo S you need to run catch cans on the vacuum and boost side.
Stupid question: What's a catch can?
Jeffrey it’s an add on that looks like a small can with vacuum hoses and it’s attached to the PCV to catch any engine blowby meaning it catching any residual oil that would go back into the intake valves
I have the n55 and just got my sparkplugs done before the tune. Havnt been able to go wot without hesitation. Just ordered new coil packs yesterday. I have 74,000 miles and never had a walnut blast. I want one. But i dont know where to go to get it done? Can you offer some options on where to go? I have yet to call the dealer for a quote because i know they will throw some crazy number at me. Thank you.
Are you PWG or EWG? Shouldn’t matter but just wondering. What tune do you have, BM3?
I am pwg. Bootmod3 stage 2 e30 ots tune
if you are in the southern california area, i would HIGHLY recommend Speed Logic Automotive. he's my go-to for any maintenance and stuff thats out of my own reach
Thanks! Love the build GLAD YOUR N55 CREW NOW!
You didn’t mention the b58 at all. But anyway good video
Which brand of ignition coils do you recommend for a stock 2011 335i e90
Delphi or Eldor should do the trick!
What do you think about NGK
Im looking to get a n54 how expensive is the maintenance of it now in 2019 ? Or should i add extra warranty out of the dealership
i wouldnt do a warranty, theres a lot of great resources nowadays to help you maintain an N54
If you aren't doing it yourself, the labor will add up quick. Diy it or find a fare rate indy shop that works regularly on German cars
by any chance is there any place for walnut blasting near LA county area?
And thanks for the videos bro! I’m 17 almost 18 and I have a 435i. I’m familiar with the n55 as I’ve owned a 335i before BUT I’ve never got into tuning since I literally crashed a week after having it lol I was 16 /: but any info would be nice about the n55 thanks man 😭!! Love your videos and the m235i 😉
Ant 2 Slow I know a guy that is mobile dm me on Instagram jorge535i
Hey man like ur vids. can u please let me know if b58 need upgraded cold side chargepipe. i went with vsrf one. and since then getting ccv cel code. not sure wat to do at this point. have a bmw 340i xdrive with 37k miles on it. trying to go to bm3 stage2. thanks.
thanks man, ie heard with the B58's the chargepipe isnt as much of an issue. You ordered an upgraded one?
Simply Car Things yeah dats d first thing i did n now getting cel for ccv. Have to switch to original n c wats wrong.
@@TheVillagerDoesThings im not sure man, i would look into the forums or check for any vacuum leaks and see what the issue could be
Hey I just installed a charge pipe on my B58. Have you cleared your CEL? No issues for me so far.
For everyone else, install the charge pipe and intake at the same time since you have to remove the intake to get to the charge pipe.
@@matt3950 idin install the o ring ..stupid me..i did dat n no more CEL. thanks
Truth
SD fam?
I’m at 146,000 miles e92 n54 👍
erick r what year? And any major issues?
@@VisualEmpty 08 e92 n54 MT. got it a couple months ago. car was nice inside and hadnt been maintained. belt broke same day, so i got a belt kit. replaced coils and sparks. cleaned the engine and replaced oil gaskets, pan, valve. installed a catch can, fmic, dp, cp bov, mhd stage 2 + on 91. fuel pump, rear sway, m3 control arm and bushing kit is on the way. AF-5 Body kit(whats your opinion) is being bought piece by piece over ebay
looking for some ebay twins turbos ( tdo4l 17t) and seeing how much boost they can hold.
erick r thanks for that info, looking into upgrading from my e36
erick r don’t mess with ebay twins, just do a cheap single like on3. And if your injectors haven’t been replaced, i’d add that to your list.
Do you have a recommendation on plugs and coils for stage 1 or stage 2?
Plugs NKG
Coils OEM Bmw
Hey man those injectors you said are they from bmw you said index 12?
And do you have a preference on where to get these from could I get them from bmw?
some guy I believe index 12 are the most recent revision. It’s what I put in my n54 a year ago. Order them from FCP Euro. But you have to code them in, which was actually more difficult for me than the installation
Colby Carithers just search up index 12?
Colby Carithers or should I just buy another aftermarket brand
some guy only get OEM injectors from FCP Euro online
intake problem is becaus people dont put catch cans on and can easlay be fixed with gas additives in the fuel and just driving it away
What BMW is he in?
Alex Jacob M235i
You need to link with @findingnick
that would be awesome haha
E92 is the nicest bmw ever(not counting m8)
1k for injectos, wow have the times changed. Which is why I am going n55
Most important upgrade your memory card so you don't leave your subs hangin'.
yep i upgraded it a while ago lol
For the most part your videos are great and very instructional, but personally I would never endorse Burger Motorsports, they are the biggest heartless scammers , I recently Gad a horrible experience with them which made me so bitter towards, I ordered a charge pipe along with an Intercooler, for my M235i, tried and dos returned it back to them cause my war was a total loss, I was hit by a drunk driver, which made this case a criminal matter, they still charged me their 20% restocking fee after I told them what happened, they didn’t care and refused to waive the restocking fee, they said they wanted to see my accident report which I didn’t have because this happened on Saturday night I emailed them on Sunday mordant their product arrived in my hands Monday, they still refused to waive the charge, if you want to endorse them it’s your business I just hope that a lot of RUclipsrs eill take their time to read this comment and stay away from these heartless thieves.
This video is really only for N54/55, B58 engines don't really suffer from carbon build up or bad coils. And the b58 charge piping is more then strong enough till you have something like a full frame turbo installed. Otherwise all the b58 needs is Plugs/ oil change and that's standard maintenance. Coming from a BMW tech. I feel bad for all you N series engines owners lol.
And even after you do that, they N series engines leak from every seal essentially. And high mileage n55's can be a ticking time bomb 💀
Eh tbh I’m not going for the b58 😅 I love my e92 n54 with all them problems reason why I brought it cuz I love fixing problems but next build is the s58 G82 m4 to be exact. And don’t get me wrong I love the b58
Bro said index 12 and charge pipe in his list like 4 times
what made you choose an m235i over an m2?
Most likely way cheaper for very close performance. Plus, more of an ability to be daily driver would be my guess.
as much as id love an M2, it was just out of my financial reach. And if im being honest im not sure the M2 offers $15k+ more car than an M235i. The M2 Comp however, is a different story
Simply Car Things gotcha. thanks for the response.
@@paulygee9664 you bet man
Simply Car Things would you also say the m235 has more “tunability”, so to speak?
Intro still so hard 😂🤦🏽
hahaha thanks brotha
That sounds expensive
Everything he has is the best everything else is just meh... got it
Pre check list n54, n55, b58. Mentiones nothing about the b58 🤣
God, I HATE having to hear that shitty "backround" music WHILE hearing someone talk, its incredibly distracting, and honestly "youtubers" NEED to STOP doing this, it was cool in 2015 but quickly got old because everybody starting doing this. Ide much prefer authentic, genuine videos over videos with edited voice overs and terrible backround music