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I laughed hysterically at "If I were the scholars opening this miraculously preserved, funeral pyre tomb of horrors there's-a-lich-nearby-named-Acererak text, and the first words I could read were "Erinyes," "libations," "daimones," "destroyed utterly," and we're only on the fragments of the third column, I might suggest that we need to think more deeply about our life choices."
“When wild Aristotle’s roamed the earth” 🤣🤣🤣 Wahoo Evil Dead references too! 🤣 Yess 🙌🏻 I’ve heard of this discovery and have been wanting to learn more about it. Thankyou sir!! I only recently discovered your wonderful channel and I am now a super fan 🌟 This pay day I am SO subscribing on Patreon! 💗✨🙌🏻
Well this one certainly lived up to the Esoterica logo, covering the arcane. philosophy and religion! You've introduced me to something I had never heard of Dr S thanks for another mind bending episode!!!
This has been my favorite episode of ALL TIME. You're like: "Let me share a bunch of stuff that will likely-" and I'm like: Absolutlely capture my imagination with its potential for mystery- Sir, why do you think I'm here? LOVE this one!!!
My favorite book title comes from India. It was written in the 9th century by a Carvaka skeptic named Jayaraśi. Called Tattvopaplavasiṃha, it translates to "The Lion That Devours All Categories."
I love how humble you are in your disclaimer, and this makes your borderline self-depreciating humor all the more endearing; I am subscribing and I hope to hear more of your work soon.
“What we have here is an esoteric text produced in a mystery religion being read to express what was, at that time at least, cutting edge philosophical and scientific theories, and then surviving until today after being burned with a Macedonian aristocrat probably in anticipation of securing a beneficent afterlife.” Dr. Justin Sledge on the Derveni Papyrus.
I tend to think spiritual texts are meant to be metaphorical in nature. They lend themselves then to a wide range of disciplines and philosophical thinking. Literalism kills them stone dead. Fascinating discovery. Really intriguing for its time and connections to a range of narratives.
When you cross over, Don’t drink from the first river, No matter how dry your thirst. There is another smaller river, As you will discover, If you only keep moving: It flows among cypress trees, Its water is fresh and clear And it is banked with clover, Bulrushes and lilies. Drink from its water On your hands and knees. At the crossroads with three Forking paths, you will discover That the right path is the best. Do not be tempted to take any Other, and don’t dither Deciding. Go right. Keep going.
Each video of yours I consume broadens my mind on just how much more I need to chew through. Thankyou so much for your time to graciously lead us through such amazing near forgotten topics
@@TheEsotericaChannel at first I wanted to make a joke about Marx suplexing Hegel to "turn him on his head" but Will-to-Power-Slam just works much better
I truly appreciate your introduction, along with all of your disclaimers, of this manuscript. I will be sure to check out other videos created by you. Thank you.
The topic of this video and your dedication to discussing it and others matters in your work, are why I subbed to your channel However, the random Evil Dead and DnD references in this video tell me that i certainly made the right choice
Fascinating! And the first I'd heard of the new discovery, somehow, so very much appreciated on that front too! Given how little is known about the Hellenistic mystery cults, this is an incredible find. Dr Sledge's description of the author's approach reminds me an awful lot of the later European alchemical writings which often tried to explain esoteric in context of contemporary science & vice versa...?
I'm wondering if you've heard of asemic writing, a form of visual poetry that often resembles ancient, unknown languages? Such a fabulous channel! Thank you for your work.
"The chokeslam of the Absolute" 🤣 Great stuff... There's something so modern about this rationalization of past "weirdness" in an attempt to "keep up" with "state of the art" discourses. It's sort of moving really. Cheers!
I went on a fieldtrip to a roman/greek tomb in that region And the atmosphere was crazy , underground with low light the frescos still strong looking at the tomb felt like these mf's could rise up any second, totally a different world.
It's really exciting for me to be able to read these texts in Greek although I have no idea what they mean. Could you do something more in early Greek philosophy and the Mysteries especially? We are not taught in school about those.
can you imagine walking on a hike and seeing a wild Aristotle? that must have been so nuts all those centuries ago. Now we only have domesticated "designer" philosophers like Jordan Peterson. I hope we come up with some kind of conservation effort to bring back wild ecosystems where philosopher species like the early Platonists can come back on their own.
Dude, we are definitely kindred spirits here. Let’s strike up a conversation with the ghost who tells us to get out. 😂 I love your style in delivering speculations about these mysteries. Well done. If it gets disproved later who cares. You gave us a good introductory course into the subject.
Thanks for going into such explanations, giving understanding to such texts I would have trouble associating properly. So much goes into your 26 minute production, its amazing. I'm still working on my Latin, for goodness sake :) So many texts and so little time!
That freaking urn is beautiful. Wow! And the papyrus text is mind blowing. I'll consult the akashic record and get back to you on that title. So... no worries. I've got a feeling it means something along the lines of : I'm here to sing some hymns, dish some answers in these here riddles and chew some bubble gum, and I'm fresh outta bubble gum.
Excellent... Could you do more on early greek philosophy and esotericism.... It feels like its all there.... Maybe the unwritten doctrine of plato's academy, your take on soco, the dionysian/Apollonian switch Nietzsche mentions, or karl jaspers axial age, or all the heidegger stuff on being and clearings and greek temples, or maybe a general cultural video on the relationship between poerty, theology, and logical thought in ancient greece, or how they viewed and understood it.... etc. As a philosopher i think you could produce a whole gang of content on that intersection alone. e.g. why walter benjamin was all about the jewish mysticism (loved the video on spinoza), or 60s self help as an outgrowth of theosophy, neoplatonism and kabbalah, etc. Either way really just commenting to keep lord algorithm happy.... Youre the best!!!!
Thank you for the extensive coverage on various topics. Esoteric glee aside, this will be worthy to follow and see how this unpacks, giving us potential epiphany into parallel studies previously traversed.
Writing this for anyone who may believe that when you mention Macedonia unfortunately some may confuse this with the land of the modern day Slavic Macedonia. However, the Derveni Papyrus was found in Greek Macedonia in Thessaloniki. I write this because there needs to be clarity and distinction - when people say Macedonia there actually always only was Greek Macedonia before the Slavs came to the northern border of the land.
Incredible work on the Orphism, I have always fascinated by it thanks to Dionysos and His Divinity along with His eery similarities to Jesus Christ. Although, I don't think that it necessarily just straight up pompfts down Christ, after all, Ficino worked it out! Speaking of which, can you perhaps do a video on Jakob Boehme? Thanks man
Jesus was modeled upon Dionysus & other vegetative, or dying & reviving, gods, like Hyacinth, Narcissus and so on - I wrote a paper on this topic, which my beloved professor, who was both a Classics/Near Eastern scholar [who knew about 10 ancient/modern languages] AND was a Presbyterian minister, accepted my premise, albeit a bit reluctantly.
This is some interesting info I didn't know about the Hades (2018) extended universe. I didn't realize they had actually written out the thing that Zagreus convinced Orpheus to write.
the part about the sun is old, i seen a video recently, of some of the last hunter/gatherers in africa, and the chief was asked about what happens when they die, he said something about burying them in a cave, and they went to the sun, so the idea of people going to the sun, is pretty old, and probably the idea of solar deity spread with the people over time
The thing about ancient philosophers naming their writings after wrestling moves is fantastic, reminds me very much of our modern, public intellectuals and how people talk about them "destroying", "eviscerating", "demolishing." etc. each other through their arguments. Hilarious.
Considering the latest phililogical developments with AI and disentangling charred scrolls...I'm curious if they'll use it to further understand the text
Jacob was also a wrestler. Could be that this was a metaphysical struggle toward revelation, as if the angel doesn't want to relent, unless you force it/seek it.
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Being a Greek I can read ancient Greek too.
Thanks for the content, its all very interesting, have you done a video on the first origins of magic?
I have the monthly and I throw extras a few times a month. I watch RUclips (about five channels this one included) more than tv…twenty to one. My cost to say thanks is less than tv and I get 100x more from it. Esoterica is awesome!
Holy crap! A Tomb of Horrors reference! Don't take any jeweled skulls, my friend.
We need a stone slab inscribed with all of Justin's one-liners
Then bury it so that archeologists 2500 years from now will puzzle over the esoteric significances.
Year 3023. "What did he meant with history, philosophy and religion? Is he talking about that Geist thing from that dude Hegel?"
The Stele of Snark?
..when wild Aristotles roamed the Earth..." 😂
So long as they're carved in at least two current languages and one dead one, to give some future archaeologist the privilege of finding "The Esoterica Stone," right next to all the plaques from RUclips.
Hell yeah. Or a top 12 T-shirt if the merch gods are listening. The time capsule thing is groovy too.
It is a joy to see someone who treats all of human culture as worthy of a mention in academic discussion.
An amazing text is an amazing text - doesn't have to be from my culture for me to be amazed by it.
@@TheEsotericaChannel I wish--especially as a speculative fiction writer--that more in my sometime field of academia would appreciate this.
The deadpan dungeon master delivery is awesome. I laughed out loud thru the first half 😅
The Deadpan Dungeon Masters - band name.
I laughed hysterically at "If I were the scholars opening this miraculously preserved, funeral pyre tomb of horrors there's-a-lich-nearby-named-Acererak text, and the first words I could read were "Erinyes," "libations," "daimones," "destroyed utterly," and we're only on the fragments of the third column, I might suggest that we need to think more deeply about our life choices."
Your channel is a hidden gem of RUclips 💎 📚
Thanks for mentioning this on Dr. Puca’s livestream. Now I’m one of the people who has heard of this fascinating manuscript.
“When wild Aristotle’s roamed the earth” 🤣🤣🤣 Wahoo Evil Dead references too! 🤣 Yess 🙌🏻 I’ve heard of this discovery and have been wanting to learn more about it. Thankyou sir!! I only recently discovered your wonderful channel and I am now a super fan 🌟 This pay day I am SO subscribing on Patreon! 💗✨🙌🏻
Well this one certainly lived up to the Esoterica logo, covering the arcane. philosophy and religion!
You've introduced me to something I had never heard of Dr S thanks for another mind bending episode!!!
"The phallus swallowing version" made me laugh out loud.. some of the dry humor he injects is priceless.
What a true treasure this channel is. Thank you Dr. Sledge
This has been my favorite episode of ALL TIME. You're like: "Let me share a bunch of stuff that will likely-" and I'm like: Absolutlely capture my imagination with its potential for mystery- Sir, why do you think I'm here? LOVE this one!!!
I am in love with the term *_"Fractal Ontology"._* As above, so below after all...
My favorite book title comes from India. It was written in the 9th century by a Carvaka skeptic named Jayaraśi. Called Tattvopaplavasiṃha, it translates to "The Lion That Devours All Categories."
Love those Carvaka guys
Wow .... is it easy to read ?
You are absolutely my favorite channel. Thank you Dr. Sledge for sharing your wealth of knowledge and providing your sources.
I love how humble you are in your disclaimer, and this makes your borderline self-depreciating humor all the more endearing; I am subscribing and I hope to hear more of your work soon.
Bro never made a follow up video on Orphism 😭
@@lordofutub Maybe some day that will change?
Yet..
Thanks!
I just want to say thank you for helping everyone to better understand the knowledge of our world! 😊👍
“What we have here is an esoteric text produced in a mystery religion being read to express what was, at that time at least, cutting edge philosophical and scientific theories, and then surviving until today after being burned with a Macedonian aristocrat probably in anticipation of securing a beneficent afterlife.” Dr. Justin Sledge on the Derveni Papyrus.
I tend to think spiritual texts are meant to be metaphorical in nature. They lend themselves then to a wide range of disciplines and philosophical thinking. Literalism kills them stone dead.
Fascinating discovery. Really intriguing for its time and connections to a range of narratives.
I would love even more content about Orphism 💜 I love your channel thank you!
You videos are like poetry to my ears! Thank you for the incredible research, good humor and beautiful philosophy
The Chokeslam of the Absolute. There's a Tech-Death Metal album title if I ever heard one.
When you cross over,
Don’t drink from the first river,
No matter how dry your thirst.
There is another smaller river,
As you will discover,
If you only keep moving:
It flows among cypress trees,
Its water is fresh and clear
And it is banked with clover,
Bulrushes and lilies.
Drink from its water
On your hands and knees.
At the crossroads with three
Forking paths, you will discover
That the right path is the best.
Do not be tempted to take any
Other, and don’t dither
Deciding. Go right. Keep going.
Your humour is deadly! This is a wondrous cave of splendours. And, the Lyre plays on...
Esoteric glee! I love it! Good job, Dr. Sledge. I love your channel and always learn so much. Thank you.
Each video of yours I consume broadens my mind on just how much more I need to chew through. Thankyou so much for your time to graciously lead us through such amazing near forgotten topics
The instant the Derveni Krater popped up on screen it became my favorite piece of visual art ever, it is beautiful.
@19:33 brb have to read Kant's Suplex of Pure Reason.
This is 16:27 eerily prophetic with the current understanding of the ACTUAL origin of the universe as we know it.
Pretty epic preceeding Galileo
19:40 “the choke slam of the absolute” absolute gold!!
"choke slam of the Absolute".
*WHAT ARE YOU GONNA DEWWWW WHEN THE CUNNING OF HISTORY COMES FOR YOU, B R O T H E R !*
@@TheEsotericaChannel announcer: AND JUST WHEN YOU THOUGHT IT WAS OVER FOLKS, HERE COMES NIETZSCHE WITH A WILL-TO-POWERSLAM!
@@dontchewglass Will-to-Power-Slam
@@TheEsotericaChannel at first I wanted to make a joke about Marx suplexing Hegel to "turn him on his head" but Will-to-Power-Slam just works much better
@@TheEsotericaChannel 😄
Being born some miles away from Vergina, I am really glad you made this video! Thank you doctor Sledge for this magnificant analysis!
This channel is amazing, every episode is so well done. I Wish I had this to watch as a kid
What our species will come up with just to pass the time on this meaningless rock never ceases to amaze me. Great video!
I truly appreciate your introduction, along with all of your disclaimers, of this manuscript. I will be sure to check out other videos created by you. Thank you.
Thank you for this 🙏🏻 Looking forward to more on Orphism. Something about it pulls me in. I’ve been reciting the Orphic hymns. Good stuff. ✨
I am so excited to have found you - I've been looking for you a couple of years and here you are!
I had never read of the Derveni manuscript. Look, maybe I didn't say every tiny syllable. Thank you for the introduction.
I loved this. I had not heard of the papyrus prior to this.
You should’ve entitled this video ‘The Choke Slam of the Absolute’ :)
Yeah, it's a pity, right? It's pretty amazing, at least I think so.
I love that feeling when you realize you just found your new favourite channel.
The topic of this video and your dedication to discussing it and others matters in your work, are why I subbed to your channel
However, the random Evil Dead and DnD references in this video tell me that i certainly made the right choice
Fascinating! And the first I'd heard of the new discovery, somehow, so very much appreciated on that front too! Given how little is known about the Hellenistic mystery cults, this is an incredible find. Dr Sledge's description of the author's approach reminds me an awful lot of the later European alchemical writings which often tried to explain esoteric in context of contemporary science & vice versa...?
Your work is so important. Thank you for your dedication.
Wow that's really amazing that such an old text can survive in any form.
Even way back then, the struggle between science and religion.
I'm wondering if you've heard of asemic writing, a form of visual poetry that often resembles ancient, unknown languages? Such a fabulous channel! Thank you for your work.
Unsettling similarities between this and initiations of the Cub Scouts. Cheers!
I rarely comment. Thank you very much for this mentally stimulating and fascinating content.
I’m so glad I found this channel.
Chokeslam of the Absolute is the greatest book title I've ever heard LOL
"The chokeslam of the Absolute" 🤣 Great stuff... There's something so modern about this rationalization of past "weirdness" in an attempt to "keep up" with "state of the art" discourses. It's sort of moving really. Cheers!
Love a good Acererak name drop 👍
Seemed appropriate
If there are random color tiles on the floor just nope your way back home
With a 10' pole :)
@@TheEsotericaChannel 😂
I find joy in your word
I went on a fieldtrip to a roman/greek tomb in that region
And the atmosphere was crazy , underground with low light the frescos still strong looking at the tomb felt like these mf's could rise up any second, totally a different world.
Chokeslam of the Absolute. Another dope metal song name
Macho man metal
@@TheEsotericaChannel Hey, since I have your attention for the moment, is there a way I can contact you about working together on something?
Sure via my website!
Pls do a video on Orphic cults
I just discovered your channel. You had me at "The Choke-slam of the Absolute"
It's a zinger
This is superlative content, you keep topping yourself. Wonderful. Thank you!
Loved this. When are you looking at putting out the next Orphism vid?
Dr. sledge you are always dazzling,but today I needed dark glasses. Thank you.
It's really exciting for me to be able to read these texts in Greek although I have no idea what they mean. Could you do something more in early Greek philosophy and the Mysteries especially? We are not taught in school about those.
Thank you for your service ✊😎
can you imagine walking on a hike and seeing a wild Aristotle? that must have been so nuts all those centuries ago. Now we only have domesticated "designer" philosophers like Jordan Peterson. I hope we come up with some kind of conservation effort to bring back wild ecosystems where philosopher species like the early Platonists can come back on their own.
“No harm ever came from reading a book.”
-Evelyn Carnahan, Egypt, c.1926.
Thank you Dr. Sledge for this channel! It’s become a daily listen!
...and we have Abram of Ur/Or Orpheus.
Evidently she never heard of Empress Theresa/j
The Tomb of Horrors reference...love it.
Dude, we are definitely kindred spirits here. Let’s strike up a conversation with the ghost who tells us to get out. 😂 I love your style in delivering speculations about these mysteries. Well done. If it gets disproved later who cares. You gave us a good introductory course into the subject.
Thanks for going into such explanations, giving understanding to such texts I would have trouble associating properly. So much goes into your 26 minute production, its amazing. I'm still working on my Latin, for goodness sake :) So many texts and so little time!
That freaking urn is beautiful. Wow! And the papyrus text is mind blowing. I'll consult the akashic record and get back to you on that title. So... no worries. I've got a feeling it means something along the lines of : I'm here to sing some hymns, dish some answers in these here riddles and chew some bubble gum, and I'm fresh outta bubble gum.
Excellent... Could you do more on early greek philosophy and esotericism.... It feels like its all there.... Maybe the unwritten doctrine of plato's academy, your take on soco, the dionysian/Apollonian switch Nietzsche mentions, or karl jaspers axial age, or all the heidegger stuff on being and clearings and greek temples, or maybe a general cultural video on the relationship between poerty, theology, and logical thought in ancient greece, or how they viewed and understood it.... etc.
As a philosopher i think you could produce a whole gang of content on that intersection alone. e.g. why walter benjamin was all about the jewish mysticism (loved the video on spinoza), or 60s self help as an outgrowth of theosophy, neoplatonism and kabbalah, etc.
Either way really just commenting to keep lord algorithm happy.... Youre the best!!!!
This pls
Thank you for the extensive coverage on various topics.
Esoteric glee aside, this will be worthy to follow and see how this unpacks, giving us potential epiphany into parallel studies previously traversed.
Writing this for anyone who may believe that when you mention Macedonia unfortunately some may confuse this with the land of the modern day Slavic Macedonia. However, the Derveni Papyrus was found in Greek Macedonia in Thessaloniki.
I write this because there needs to be clarity and distinction - when people say Macedonia there actually always only was Greek Macedonia before the Slavs came to the northern border of the land.
Choke slam of the absolute is so good hahaha
I really enjoy these informative videos thank you!☺️🙏🏽✨
Thank you for this episode
Incredible work on the Orphism, I have always fascinated by it thanks to Dionysos and His Divinity along with His eery similarities to Jesus Christ. Although, I don't think that it necessarily just straight up pompfts down Christ, after all, Ficino worked it out!
Speaking of which, can you perhaps do a video on Jakob Boehme? Thanks man
Yessss! Jacob Boehme pls ;D
Early Christianity does indeed borrow a lot of the concepts about the soul and afterlife from Orphism.
Jesus was modeled upon Dionysus & other vegetative, or dying & reviving, gods, like Hyacinth, Narcissus and so on - I wrote a paper on this topic, which my beloved professor, who was both a Classics/Near Eastern scholar [who knew about 10 ancient/modern languages] AND was a Presbyterian minister, accepted my premise, albeit a bit reluctantly.
@@sherylholland2378 *Great comment! In the end, it's the archetype that 'matters'.... Double entendre intended!* 👍
Modeled how? You propose Jesus was an invention?
This is some interesting info I didn't know about the Hades (2018) extended universe. I didn't realize they had actually written out the thing that Zagreus convinced Orpheus to write.
Can you please bring back Greek mysticism
Fascinating and well done as usual
Nice DnD Tomb of Horrors archvillain reference! Step aside, V of ST and CR! But seriously, religiontube DnD livestream one-shot when?
Keep up the good work
Please do more orphism
Moar Orphic mystery texts!
Thank you Dr. You are awesome!
Wow. This text has to rank up there with the Dresden Codex as the most miraculously survived text of tremendous value.
another wonderful video, thank you very much
Dr, would you be so kind to make a video on who and what the demon Valac is?
Asceticism associated with Dionysus is so interesting
Gods were often empowered by their opposite. Like how Apollo was agod of both disease and healing
I was reading Eliphaz Levi, who suggests Kabbalah came from Abraham, do we have reference to how he came about it?
With the exception of sefer yetzirah which is late classical, kabbalah is fully medieval
Would love that 1694 copy of St. John of the Cross, ideally along with an Esoterica eposode about the Dark Night of the Soul maybe?
These courses have challenged my whole perspective. And you sir are hilarious.
מאוד מגניב לראות את הפרויקט הנ"ל.
the part about the sun is old, i seen a video recently, of some of the last hunter/gatherers in africa, and the chief was asked about what happens when they die, he said something about burying them in a cave, and they went to the sun, so the idea of people going to the sun, is pretty old, and probably the idea of solar deity spread with the people over time
Spinoza’s Slamdunk Argument for Substance Monism :3
"A lich named Acererak", well played Dr. Sledge. Better watch out for cave-ins and Spheres of Annihilation.
Good advice;)
The thing about ancient philosophers naming their writings after wrestling moves is fantastic, reminds me very much of our modern, public intellectuals and how people talk about them "destroying", "eviscerating", "demolishing." etc. each other through their arguments. Hilarious.
Thanks again Dr!
Considering the latest phililogical developments with AI and disentangling charred scrolls...I'm curious if they'll use it to further understand the text
Jacob was also a wrestler. Could be that this was a metaphysical struggle toward revelation, as if the angel doesn't want to relent, unless you force it/seek it.