@@450bjae well its real simple, if the oil level is correct, the pump is working properly, there is good oil pressure and oil is flowing in the correct direction, it should be making its way up to the top end of the motor in which case it should be splattering all over the place if the lifter covers are off. It was fairly obvious after a minute or two that something was not right with this motor.
Last rebuild I did was on an old BOP215. I was able to get to the oil pump through the distributor tube and work it with a power drill. Before even starting the engine I had oil working it's way up to the rockers. The fact that these guys had the engine running for a while without even seeing any oil at the top is pretty concerning 😂
@@luci-fer250 With all the kinks in that top rad hose, I don't think it would've made a difference. When he revs it up, you can see the hose collapse on itself.
Also revving it up and down didn't help, you wanna give it about 20 min or so steady at 2000 rpm the first time and ease it in after that, despite the lack of oil up top, it looks to be a broken rod, possibly from a spun bearing, this is why no revving the first time
One of my SBC's was built by professionals. A stroked 400. I fired it up and it had 5 lbs oil pressure. I shut her down. Long story short, never use a Fram oil filter. It collapsed.
My auto mechanics teacher told us years ago. When doing jobs like this, that is a one-man job. Because when you do a job like that and there's more than one person working on a job things like this go wrong, because no one knows who did what. And we were always told when doing these kind of jobs to double-check and triple-check ourselves. You can never go wrong double checking yourself and when in doubt double check it again!
I always do a mental preflight checklist after building an engine, and if there's two people i say it outloud. "Did you prime the oil pump" "Is it full of oil" "Is there antifreeze/ water" I hate when I see these things run on the stand with no water hose to them. They heat up super fast without water, and if you don't think they do let a normal one with water run 2 minutes and put your hand on the headers. Bet they'll burn you.
I think maybe he pinched a ring. I think if it was bone dry the mains would have seized before a con rod. Probably threw in a set of rings, didn't file fit them to the cylinder and ensure the ring end gap. Heat Increase when he revved it causing the ring pinch, piston locked up and snapped 1 rod.
@@anthonyrybczynski5420 youre correct that oil wpuld not be spraying out in a stream from the rockers but for how long it ran it definitely should've pooled up and spilled over the side of the head onto the headers
My guess is they didn’t use any because I know they didn’t prime the oil gallery’s, i have issues with the system not oiling but I always find it before startup because I run the oil pump until I get oil coming out of each push tube
The small block chevy was a great motor. I had my share. I had a gmc with a 350 4 bolt main and I broke the crank in it a it still got me home ,put a used crank in it and drove it another 3 yrs.
I wouldn't let these guys rebuild a lawnmower engine for me. If there is not enough oil after running the motor for one minute and revving it up shut it off and start troubleshooting. Backyard mechanics 436 rebuilds or not.
@USAUSA , it's I don't have the money for some asshole to charge me a g, especially when I can do it my damn self, it's worth putting your balls on in the morning instead of acting like a kid
The lack of oil being slung all over by the exposed rockers was a pretty significant hint that you were fixing to hear some ugly sounds if you didn't shut it down. Can't imagine thinking that wasn't a issue
right-like, why wasn’t the oiling system pre-primed? so easy with the engine on a stand to pull the distributor, prime and confirm flow and pressure, then drop in the dizzy and go
@@sc3ku indeed. I certainly would have primed the oil system and kept priming until I had oil at the rockers making itself clearly present. Can't imagine not doing that
@afroman5531 for that engine you would pull out the distributer and turn the oil pump over with a drill till oil squirts on the rockers then it is primed
But watch again They have an oil pressure gauge He checks it, gives it some RPM it’s making oil pressure Can’t quite see what the number is but the needle climbs 2/3 the gauge
That hurts. After finding mains not torqued on one 350 I did, I started using a paint pen to mark each bolt with a yellow dot as soon as the torque wrench was off. Leaves no question if its been done and it hasn't happened again.
Young kid walked into my dads body shop one day and asked if we could look at his car that had broke down on the highway out front. Kid pops the hood and there’s a baseball size hole in his slant 6. First time I’d ever seen a rod go through a block.
Around 50 seconds in you can hear it starting to knock, any trained ear could’ve heard that, might have even been able to save the engine and crank, but instead you made a cool video we all can learn from👍
@@mikewest9033 depends on the oil pump bud, I had a smallblock and a big block Chevy that had high volume oil pumps and I changed the spring in the pump and it would sling oil across my shop with the valve covers off but a stock application it has to build up and then run through the pushrods
I was going to comment that but you beat me to it! Either way if you have a high volume pump without a valve cover you will have oil spilling out into the headers at the very least. This engine clearly had a lubrication issue. Them rockers looked dry as a liberal woman at a trump rally.
I love how he whips the screwdriver out of the other dude's hand like "Give me that! You don't know what you're doing. You've got to twist thingy here..." BOOM!
My thought exactly, in the beginning. He should have realized immediately after it started that there wasn't high enough oil pressure. He even grabs at the rocker arms and doesn't notice. But, that oil at the end looks mighty full of metal fragments, so it's possible (not probable), that the video quality is to blame for not seeing the oil flowing. Edit: After viewing the video a second time at about 2:11 you can see oil flow down the valve spring. Edit 2: I can't be certain (the video quality is rather crappy) but the part of the piston rod coming out of the oil pan appears to be the crankshaft end, not whristpin end. It possible he didn't torque the rod correctly, and it came loose, then the crankshaft shoved the rod through the oil pan.
@@justplanefred it didn't drop nearly enough oil. What spilled out was a cup, if that. The pump could have easily sucked all of that up and have it in the oil passages, but leaving the pan dry. There wasn't even any oil getting to the top of the heads, so even if there was enough oil to the cam, it wasn't enough to go up the pushrods. And I also doubt there was enough oil going to the cam, because if there was enough oil it wouldn't have thrown a rod as fast as it did. It was running dry
Besides no oil spraying all over the headers.......duh ...you crank up the idle because its getting tight from the bottom end going south you guys are hilarious!!!
seriously. 30 years ago I rebuilt my 350 chev and I studied IT. First thought i had watching the rockers is "where's the oil" because when I made my adjustments it was a frigging mess. Well done boys.
That's kind of irrelevant to the fact A the valve covers are off, B no oil is squirting from the top end everywhere, as it should if it had oil pressure and C the cooling system was the least of that engine's problem after throwing a rod. Wonder why (other than the description saying it wasn't torqued correctly) it threw a rod?
And getting cocky, racing it several times. From my perspective, even if oil had been circulating through the machine, technically the engine is brand new, which requires a break-in period where you don't throttle it like you're at the drag strip doing qualifying runs.
My silly brother who knows nothing about cars was driving his Ford Au xr6 around with no oil for a week, I said it sounds laboured and I checked the oil the stick was bone dry I said your oils leaked out, it come out of a loose fitting tightened it back up put more oil and Morey's in it it pours like a kitten till this day, quite good sounding engines in that model
Haven't mechaniced for lotta years but I do recall taking my valve cover cap off once (and forgetting) started it aaaaand....didn't take me long to shut it down once I got about mid fender from the drivers door. The beginning of the video had me wondering "what changed from those days?" Apparently, very little.
Hah,I I was thinking , similar ,but hah your right, hah ,is why he was checking the charter... Bin there ..,t , could of done that..but didn't with crude experience.
@@jyuke9955 The best engine I ever built was a 350 four bolt main bored 40 over. I installed roller rockers, anti pump ups, ran 'double humper' heads (good luck with those anymore), Hooker headers, double 650 Holley carbs with 750 deep throw primary pumps (all the tricks), Offenhauser semi high rise. etc, etc, and installed the whole thing into a 1923 T bucket roadster. 550 hp in just under 1500 lbs with me in it. It was fun. Aw, the days gone by. You should have seen the look on the CHPs face who called me out to race one day going down highway 99 here in California. He couldn't believe it. 'I wanna drive that'. Uh, no ya don't. It'll make you shit yourself.... The days of yore. Oh, and that was backed by a Muncie Rock Crusher 4 speed tranny (that I built) with a straight throw Hurse. shift.
Pro Mechanic- “Your engine needs overhauled..” Owner - “I know a mechanic that said he could rebuild it for half of what you quoted.. thanks anyway” Other “mechanic” :
I showed this video to my wife and asked her if she saw anything wrong. Within 2 seconds, she said , There's no oil pressure. Does it even have oil in it ? She is not a mechanic. ... 😄
@@leobardofilipe2367 I don’t think the oil pump was doing anything. The first time I saw any oil was on the floor, there should have been oil everywhere even at idle so if it wasn’t getting up top I doubt that the connecting rods or main bearing were getting anything. Someone forget to put in the pickup tube?
Interesting how was making no mess from the rocker arms. Chevy tends to me messy with valve covers off. Sounded faintly like a rod knock in there under the exhaust noise.
I was freshening up these motors at 16 and 17 for mud trucks. Break it down hone it, new rings bearings, maybe an oil pump. Run the absolute shit out of it if it blows I'll get another one for 150$ it's easy to do dumb shit when you don't care bc your not really invested into it! I wouldn't even fire the motor unless i primed the shit out of it and knew it was getting good oil. Amateur mistake these guys made...
I’m thinking there’s an oil pressure issue, or oil starvation I’d just imagine with no valve cover oil should be sloshing all over the place, but it looked bone dry the whole time
I would use oil control clips to control the flow of oil downwards. I’m kind of assuming that’s what this individual did because I don’t see one drop of oil spraying anywhere so he’s either using oil control clips or there’s no engine in the oil and that’s not the case because if there was no oil in the engine but if that was the case you would hear the engine, knocking really loud.
Yes as a mechanic I work with a lot of guys with all their certification have fun maybe two-thirds of them were the worst mechanics ever work with they had all their medals and credentials but you wouldn't want them to work on your car.
In my extensive experience, you don't ever "goose" a fresh build for at least half an hour to break in the camshaft. Those of you who noticed no oil from the valves also have a good eye. If it hasn't started oiling within the first 15 seconds, shut her down!!!
That's why you prime the oil pump before installing the distributor. To ensure oil is coming from the rocker arms. Oil should have been flying from the rocker arms. Smoke would have been coming from the headers because of oil splatter.
Why would run it without priming the engine in the first place? First rule of a first start, #1 make sure your engine is well lubricated before you start the engine.
I remember one I had pretty much together and then I started questioning whether I had tightened the cam bolt. Pulled the water pump & timing cover (oil pump in cover; '74 Buick), checked torque and, yes, I HAD tightened it. Damn sure not going to forget a MAIN cap; hell, they're called MAIN for a reason : ) ALTERNATE CONVERSATION: #1 Did you put oil in it? #2 Yep... I think. #1 What? You're not sure? #2 Well, you're making me question myself. Tell, you what. Sling a rod, and see if anything leaks out. #1 NOW yer' thinkin'. STAND BACK!
Paradise Road I don't think this was due to oil starvation, the engine was barely hot and they were only giving it a few revs, something must have been loose in the bottom end.
This is what happens when you're more focused on the headers you'll use once you have it on the stand than you are in actually rebuilding the engine...
@@Bryan-Hensley I have built 100s of small block chevys over the years and I still do it every single time just to verify the pump is working and I’m going to get oil to the top end before spinning the motor over. That first few seconds of run time having oil is crucial to engine longevity. That being said , everyone has their own way and own opinion . But i dont know any true builder who dont prime the motor first.
"Hey Fred, did you torque the rod caps?" "I couldn't find the damn torque wrench, so I did it by feel." "I mean, What's the worst that could happen?" " That's Cool, fire her up"
Is that a con rod poking out the side of the block? I'm thinking not assembled properly -> no oil pressure because it's all leaking out of misassembled big end or something, and the misassembly also caused the failure. So I'm thinking failure like that not directly caused by no oil pressure, though of course that would have caused other damage.
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The fact this wasn't spraying oil all over the shop with the valve covers off should have been an instant hint to shut down.
Conclusion: they do not know what they where doing
exactly
My thoughts exactly
Bruh i have no clue what your talking about but from the looks of this video they should’ve known aswell
@@450bjae well its real simple, if the oil level is correct, the pump is working properly, there is good oil pressure and oil is flowing in the correct direction, it should be making its way up to the top end of the motor in which case it should be splattering all over the place if the lifter covers are off. It was fairly obvious after a minute or two that something was not right with this motor.
“He who is without oil , shall throw the first rod”
Compressions 8.7:1
Winner of comment of the day.
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Haha proverbs
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Must've been a good build. It ran for an amazingly long time with no oil!
Talk about adding salt to an open wound. 🤣
There was oil...it's on the floor now
@@86753091974 yeah oil never left the pan (they probably forgot the oil pump driveshaft)
Yup oil would be pouring out of push rods.... normally lol
"I said break the camshaft in...not break the connecting rods in"
I love how the oil makes a cameo appearance at the end.👍
😅 Yeah, about like that little bit of cotton mouth spit you can get up the morning after a night out with the refreshments.😂😂
It will be seen, one way or another !
Finally!!
Bill, don’t add the oil. That shit makes a huge mess when we run the engine with the valve covers off.
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Ryan you made my fucking day
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There was a lack of oil not making a mess lol
There was oil in that engine you can see it all leaking out at the end. He fucked something putting it together lol
This guy is a riot
Not a drop of oil squirting from the push rods and rockers but keeps it running
Here's your sign
I thought exactly the same thing! That should be making a hell of a mess, revving it like that with the valve covers off.
Same. Thought, it's been awhile since I had a valve cover off, but last time it did, oil went everywhere.
@@carcomp101 he was using moly grease...to keep it from making a mess.😂 Look at the colour of that crap coming out.
@@DL101ca Yes, it's been a long time for me as well, but thought "Hey, where is the oil
that should be dripping out with the covers off".
Must be difficult going through life being so damn smart. I pity you.
Gotta love it when your engine spits out a part number so you know what to re-order lol
That's so funny true but funny
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Good one 😅
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Last rebuild I did was on an old BOP215. I was able to get to the oil pump through the distributor tube and work it with a power drill. Before even starting the engine I had oil working it's way up to the rockers. The fact that these guys had the engine running for a while without even seeing any oil at the top is pretty concerning 😂
im not concerning the video is CLICKBAIT/no oil /no antifreeze
@@luci-fer250
With all the kinks in that top rad hose, I don't think it would've made a difference. When he revs it up, you can see the hose collapse on itself.
That's not top secret info. It's literally the correct procedure
It's a BO Buick Oldsmobile no Pontiac
Also concerning is they didn't seem to notice the lack of oil.
The quiet “fuck” 2 seconds after it blows really puts the icing on the cake.
That fuck made me laugh so hard. Love reading comments. Love that one
@@zakkm9791 did your tummy started hurting you??
@@realcritical-kr2dd he shit a little bit he laugh so hard
Thanks sir for that comment,you summed it up.
Shade Tree
GREAT JOB GUYS! Not seeing oil sling off the rockers was your first sign 🤦🏼♂️
and they were doubtfull and rev it high just for sure
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They both looked at the oil pressure gauge that said 0 and said let's rev it 52 times to fix the issue 😂
This knock knock joke isn't funny
Also revving it up and down didn't help, you wanna give it about 20 min or so steady at 2000 rpm the first time and ease it in after that, despite the lack of oil up top, it looks to be a broken rod, possibly from a spun bearing, this is why no revving the first time
Probably two mistakes…not pre-oiling the oil pump and not installing a temporary oil pressure gauge..
“What’s the oil pressure gauge say?” “Zero”? “rev her up.” 🤣🤣
😆👀...then I repeat the comment to myself 2 more times😆🤣😂😂😂😭😭😭😭
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Gotta put her under load to see if she can handle it. 😆😂🤣😥
A drill to prime the oil is always a good thing to confirm oild pump works
If you are going to build an engine stand, you might want to include an oil pressure gauge and temp gauge.
An idiot light would do fine
He was holding the gauge
GM junk is the best answer
@@wildestcowboy2668 I see 35 year old gms every day. Haven't seen any ford's older than 1996 in a long time
@@jacobfleming565 66-71 BB Mopars baby
No oil getting to the rockers let's just keep reeving it it'll fix itself.
That's what I was thinking.
My SBC rebuilds blew oil all over the place out of the push rods. Looks like no oil pressure.
One of my SBC's was built by professionals. A stroked 400. I fired it up and it had 5 lbs oil pressure. I shut her down. Long story short, never use a Fram oil filter. It collapsed.
Oh course
hoiw is this not spraying oil off the rockers? whenever I adjust valves running without a coverplate I have a mess
My auto mechanics teacher told us years ago. When doing jobs like this, that is a one-man job. Because when you do a job like that and there's more than one person working on a job things like this go wrong, because no one knows who did what. And we were always told when doing these kind of jobs to double-check and triple-check ourselves. You can never go wrong double checking yourself and when in doubt double check it again!
Absolutely right and wrong.
I always do a mental preflight checklist after building an engine, and if there's two people i say it outloud. "Did you prime the oil pump"
"Is it full of oil"
"Is there antifreeze/ water" I hate when I see these things run on the stand with no water hose to them. They heat up super fast without water, and if you don't think they do let a normal one with water run 2 minutes and put your hand on the headers. Bet they'll burn you.
You don’t need to be a fuckin mechanic to know something as basic as this
With all due respect, I have to disagree. I can fuck things up, perfectly fine, all by myself!
If you don't have any nuts and bolts left over after a rebuild....you did something wrong.
That coolant mixing with the oil did a hell of a job lubricating that engine all that time.
Damn it lasted that long with no oil, imagine how good it would been if it actually had oil pressure!!!
The fact that those headers aren't smoking due to oil running all down them should have been a hint.
I think I’m the description he says a rod cap wasn’t torqued right and that it did have oil on the rockers but not as much as it should have
@@anonymoussubscriber3929 all i have to say is if your engine builder does shit like this run far and hide
I think maybe he pinched a ring. I think if it was bone dry the mains would have seized before a con rod. Probably threw in a set of rings, didn't file fit them to the cylinder and ensure the ring end gap. Heat Increase when he revved it causing the ring pinch, piston locked up and snapped 1 rod.
No oil on the rockers is pretty obvious these are idiots
@@anthonyrybczynski5420 youre correct that oil wpuld not be spraying out in a stream from the rockers but for how long it ran it definitely should've pooled up and spilled over the side of the head onto the headers
That’s how good assembly lube is…it lasted impressively long 😮
My guess is they didn’t use any because I know they didn’t prime the oil gallery’s, i have issues with the system not oiling but I always find it before startup because I run the oil pump until I get oil coming out of each push tube
Use assembly lube and use a lot of it
Almost long enough for the oil to flow.
Should have used KY jelly.....
My dad always said, when building an engine be Santa Claus. Make a list and check it twice.
My daddy will be back with cigarettes and milk soon
Measure twice
Cut once
But same principle
It's obvious if it failed because of the vertical filming
Jason Bautista hahaha that's likely the prime reason
I never understood why anyone would hold a camera this way instant turn off for me
PRYORFARMS turn off?
PRYORFARMS does that mean you get turned on by landscape videos? 🤔
The reason it locked up was no oil!! That motor should have sprayed oil out of those rockers like a fountain. ?? Duhhhhh !!!
I knew the comment section on this video would be gold. I was not disappointed.
Like your 👍's you received?
Sorry man, couldn't resist
Same! 😂
I thought the same and so far... 😂
Gold? You mean full of metal right?
Same that I was thinking
Gotta see the comments on this one. Glitter oil.
It's probably the best running small block I've ever seen to run that long with no oil pressure.
Most small blocks ive seen like to sit at 0-5psi
@@tomstutz2645yeah. If you ignore the OPS or the oil pump. The latter ain't cheap. I've done enough of them.
A Ford can't last as long as a Chevy
think he had a roast thermometer on the ready
Yea he built it good til it blew again
The small block chevy was a great motor. I had my share. I had a gmc with a 350 4 bolt main and I broke the crank in it a it still got me home ,put a used crank in it and drove it another 3 yrs.
Was? So it's not anymore..?
@@lollipop84858 guess I'm just thinking of the old carburetor ones 😂
Oil pressure never entered the chat
I wouldn't let these guys rebuild a lawnmower engine for me. If there is not enough oil after running the motor for one minute and revving it up shut it off and start troubleshooting. Backyard mechanics 436 rebuilds or not.
Or oil quantity
“I’ve got a cousin who can do it a lot cheaper”.
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If that cousin has two first names or Ray in his name anywhere. Stay away, you've been warned.
Cousin cleetus
Oh hell yeah
lmao! man I heard that a few times too many
“I have my own personal mechanic who can do the job for a better price”
*their mechanic*
So true hahaha 😂
I blow it up for nothing my mechanic
You can do it yourself and it's cheaper, just as long as you aren't dumb enough to pay for a mechanic
@@yayuh4542 it 'is I don't put oil in at all and just have heaps of spare conrods
@USAUSA , it's I don't have the money for some asshole to charge me a g, especially when I can do it my damn self, it's worth putting your balls on in the morning instead of acting like a kid
That's been my experience with chevys too... Run good for a while then boom!... but mine had oil in them.
The lack of oil being slung all over by the exposed rockers was a pretty significant hint that you were fixing to hear some ugly sounds if you didn't shut it down. Can't imagine thinking that wasn't a issue
right-like, why wasn’t the oiling system pre-primed? so easy with the engine on a stand to pull the distributor, prime and confirm flow and pressure, then drop in the dizzy and go
@@sc3ku indeed. I certainly would have primed the oil system and kept priming until I had oil at the rockers making itself clearly present. Can't imagine not doing that
@@GorillaCookieshow do you prime an oil system? With compressed air to create a positive pressure?
@afroman5531 for that engine you would pull out the distributer and turn the oil pump over with a drill till oil squirts on the rockers then it is primed
But watch again
They have an oil pressure gauge
He checks it, gives it some RPM
it’s making oil pressure
Can’t quite see what the number is but the needle climbs 2/3 the gauge
Dude 1: "Hey, y'all know that one extra bolt we had left over?"
Dude 2: "Yep"
Dude 1: "Get rid of it"
jmurphy1973 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂
bruh that few couple of ounces is like .00000001 second off the time slip. got to gain were you can
jmurphy1973 yea that was a good one 😂😂😂😂😂
Greg Leitch 😭
plnkfloydian it’s called over Engineering
That hurts. After finding mains not torqued on one 350 I did, I started using a paint pen to mark each bolt with a yellow dot as soon as the torque wrench was off. Leaves no question if its been done and it hasn't happened again.
I do that with everything important. Things like lug nuts and such. I put a line threw the bolt head.
You monster!!
That and keep a check sheet so you can tick it as you go along.
There's no lines on the oil cans!
Smart, thanks for the tip
Young kid walked into my dads body shop one day and asked if we could look at his car that had broke down on the highway out front. Kid pops the hood and there’s a baseball size hole in his slant 6. First time I’d ever seen a rod go through a block.
remember kids, if you do it dry she wont let you do it again so lube it up first
Error989
Failing that, rohypnol.
Error989 rod caps
So what happened? Didn't prime oil pump or rod cap?
@@chrisdaniels4674 oil pump obviously wasn't working
lolz nice one.
It's pretty sad when you can hear the crankshaft hammering away over open headers and you still keep running it
I could start to hear it like half way through.
Yeah i didnt think i was imagining it lol
Who needs oil and valve covers when you plan to just run it to death 💀😂😂
Motor was fucked regardless
get some!! Get some! bleed and lead brother!, bleed and lead!
The wife gets you a set of craftsman wrenches and a Hot Rod Magazine for your birthday and here is the result.
Dood
And insists on helping...Ya wanna help?A cheeseburger would be nice!Hey that hammer I lost just went whizzing past my head!
If you need expensive brands of tools to rebuild an engine you shouldn’t be working on cars in the first place 😂
@@MysticalLlama What are you talking about?
@@nojunkwork5735 you know what he's talking about read the post again stupid
Around 50 seconds in you can hear it starting to knock, any trained ear could’ve heard that, might have even been able to save the engine and crank, but instead you made a cool video we all can learn from👍
“I could watch those valves go up and down all day… Wait a minute!”
Where's the oil?!?!
@@jacobrzeszewski6527on the floor.
"I'm not getting any oil pressure Bill, what should I do?" "Gas it til it fixes itself"
Hilarious
Its a sbc, they had a 50/50 chance
I though it might not have oil, but I see where the rod came out the pan was full.
Looks like to me they had a loose bolt because it never mocked till the rod came out that motor should have been hammering
Anybody who’s ran a motor with no valve cover knows oils gonna go everywhere and not seeing oil coming out of the push rods told me no oil pressure
He with out oil shall throw the first rod. - Lubrications 3:16
FN😂🙂
This is my next custom t-shirt.
I thought that was 5:30...or am I thinking of 20:50?🤔🤣
Amen
Make it Lubrications 10:30
Gee they sure must be great professional, zero oil pressure obvious to me after under 10 seconds but then again I've got 53 years experience.
I've never seen a sbc running without valve covers that didn't spray oil everywhere.
This one... no oil at the rockers..
Humm
Any engine can run without valve covers it takes a while for the oil to build up and overflow it's not gonna spray out
@@mikewest9033 depends on the oil pump bud, I had a smallblock and a big block Chevy that had high volume oil pumps and I changed the spring in the pump and it would sling oil across my shop with the valve covers off but a stock application it has to build up and then run through the pushrods
I was going to comment that but you beat me to it! Either way if you have a high volume pump without a valve cover you will have oil spilling out into the headers at the very least. This engine clearly had a lubrication issue. Them rockers looked dry as a liberal woman at a trump rally.
I noticed how dry they were and wondered if they forgot the oil pump or something. Those must be some fat pushrods to take so long to fill!
Exactly what i thought.. no oil in the engine.. opps they forgot to add it i bet
Knock, Knock
Who's there?
Cylinder 7
Krankie V hahahahaha that's a good one
Noice!!!
Hahha Hahahaha! Now that was funny!!!
Krankie V perfect
I just lol'd
'You torqued the con rods, right?' 'Yep, did em up til they stretched then backed em off 1/2 turn.'
Re-used the old bolts and a impact wrench instead of a torque wrench.
Kind of comment I'm thinking and surprised ya don't have major likes on this. Seems to be only one on this most likely line.
Don't forget to save some money on new bearings. Slimy dealers and parts store just trying to get more of our money
Looks like one of the big end bolts is missing from the rod.
First thing to check for when starting a fresh engine is oil pressure
What's worse than a blown engine? Vertical filming
the same mental level required for vertical filming was the same level when a rod bolt wasn't torqued down and caused a new engine to go south
Paint Correction Officer well said
William Taylor don't even look like it had the cap booted at all.
I hate vertical photos
I love how he whips the screwdriver out of the other dude's hand like "Give me that! You don't know what you're doing. You've got to twist thingy here..." BOOM!
Karma 'burst through' real quick there.
😂😂😂
Yea! You got to twist this Chinga dera for it to work! 😄 🤣 😂 😆.
@@mackbolin3861 Haven't heard that term in awhile
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He didn’t have any lubrication but at least he had enough cranking amps in that battery to start 14 of these engines simultaneously: 😂
Lmao
Ya i noticed that there should of been oil just pumping out of the top of the head
My thought exactly, in the beginning. He should have realized immediately after it started that there wasn't high enough oil pressure. He even grabs at the rocker arms and doesn't notice. But, that oil at the end looks mighty full of metal fragments, so it's possible (not probable), that the video quality is to blame for not seeing the oil flowing.
Edit: After viewing the video a second time at about 2:11 you can see oil flow down the valve spring.
Edit 2: I can't be certain (the video quality is rather crappy) but the part of the piston rod coming out of the oil pan appears to be the crankshaft end, not whristpin end. It possible he didn't torque the rod correctly, and it came loose, then the crankshaft shoved the rod through the oil pan.
I think it was lucky he didn't try to start more than this engine ...
Jesus, I know. Looks like it would start an 'Aircraft Carrier'...👌
Man, that went downhill quickly. Thanks for posting this.
These guys must be members of the "Stop Oil" movement.
😂 😅😅😅😅😅😅😅😅😅lmao
Should used Lucas oil.😂😂 oh damn the container was right there.
As soon as he started it with the valve covers off and saw no oil I knew this would end good.
As soon as I read the title of the video, I knew this would not end good
Video should be titled: I didn’t rebuild my 350 right and this happened
And or don’t know what I’m doing
It was built fine, they forgot the oil
@@ryantexada9269 the oil pickup maybe seemed to be plenty running out the window they created in the oil pan
@@justplanefred it didn't drop nearly enough oil. What spilled out was a cup, if that. The pump could have easily sucked all of that up and have it in the oil passages, but leaving the pan dry. There wasn't even any oil getting to the top of the heads, so even if there was enough oil to the cam, it wasn't enough to go up the pushrods. And I also doubt there was enough oil going to the cam, because if there was enough oil it wouldn't have thrown a rod as fast as it did. It was running dry
No this is what could happen without foreplay!
The silence before the swear words, priceless!
a prime example of what happens when you have no idea what you're doing.
Agreed
Everyone learns from mistakes 👍
I never want anyone to feel like they shouldn't do anything because they have no idea how. Build an engine. Blow it up. Do stuff.
Got oil pressure? What's that? It's that gauge that's showing Z E R O Stupid!!!!
Noooo ... a prime example of what happens when you only partly know what you're doing.
It ain't got no ole pressure.. Just give it some GASHH JIMMY
Jimmay!!!!!!
Oil fukin mong 😳
This video should be called "How to make glitter oil!"
Im pretty sure they just made glitter because theres sure asf no oil😂
I'm 99% sure they threw a rod through the block,the oil was leaking out of the left bank prettt bad lol
Rob end was sticking out right by the oil filter..... rod bearing/rod cap fail 😂
DAM🙈
Or "how to start drinking more"
Besides no oil spraying all over the headers.......duh ...you crank up the idle because its getting tight from the bottom end going south you guys are hilarious!!!
Good idea checking the valve lash by hand on a running engine.
Done it heaps of times not a problem
That’s the only way I’ve ever done it……..Old school way! Works well!
Thats the only way on those old girls done it hundreds of times only true way to adjust the valves on em too
I wouldnt be caught dead doing it any other way
Right...I was like 😬😬😬 what's he doin
seriously. 30 years ago I rebuilt my 350 chev and I studied IT. First thought i had watching the rockers is "where's the oil" because when I made my adjustments it was a frigging mess. Well done boys.
At least it blew before they installed it.
The only comment that makes sense
Always best to look on the bright side...lol
- really dude
That's exactly what I thought.
Well said
Sweet, now I know who to send my engine to for a great rebuild!
I’m glad to see he had the radiator hooked up. Something real bad could have happened if the engine wasn’t being cooled
But we there any water in it?
That's kind of irrelevant to the fact A the valve covers are off, B no oil is squirting from the top end everywhere, as it should if it had oil pressure and C the cooling system was the least of that engine's problem after throwing a rod. Wonder why (other than the description saying it wasn't torqued correctly) it threw a rod?
did you notice the hose collapsing in on itself?
@@AstrosElectronicsLab all correct but...it was a joke comment
How about no oil. You can run for a bit with no water but there was no oil in the heads
Honestly I'm very surprised it lasted that long with it not oiling at all.
And getting cocky, racing it several times. From my perspective, even if oil had been circulating through the machine, technically the engine is brand new, which requires a break-in period where you don't throttle it like you're at the drag strip doing qualifying runs.
@@lorenzoparedes2306it’s not brand new, it’s a rebuild. Some new parts but far from brand new.
My silly brother who knows nothing about cars was driving his Ford Au xr6 around with no oil for a week, I said it sounds laboured and I checked the oil the stick was bone dry I said your oils leaked out, it come out of a loose fitting tightened it back up put more oil and Morey's in it it pours like a kitten till this day, quite good sounding engines in that model
it was getting oil to the rods but nothing else so something was loose causing the oil to not get where it was needed
When you don’t add oil uncle Rodney is sure to come a knocking
Nice 😂
hahahahaah good one
I see what you did
🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
Most underrated comment on this video😂😂😂😂👍🏽
Haven't mechaniced for lotta years but I do recall taking my valve cover cap off once (and forgetting) started it aaaaand....didn't take me long to shut it down once I got about mid fender from the drivers door. The beginning of the video had me wondering "what changed from those days?" Apparently, very little.
Why does this “fresh” rebuild look like it has oil drained from the engines of the titanic after decades under water….?
I agree, Oil looks worse than a melted mars bar.
Because there was no oil pressure so you’re looking at all the metal shavings/glitter mixed in
Rod probably busted into water passageways and oil mixed with water
Yup looks like milkshake. Most likely mixed with water/coolant
I was just thinking that.
"You put oil in it, right?"
"I thought you were gonna put oil in it."
Classic 😂
I did put oil it, but the engine was getting heavy, so i added one qt only.
I like how he checked the rockers as they appeared loose as his cam lobes were being wiped.
Hah,I I was thinking , similar ,but hah your right, hah ,is why he was checking the charter... Bin there ..,t , could of done that..but didn't with crude experience.
Lol.yep
It had oil at least. Just no oil pressure. What do we think? Pickup fell off?
Yeah, first thing I noticed, running it without valve covers and nobody was getting an oil shower....
I dont know alot about cars but......
That was odd to me! 🤔
Facts😂😂😂
After my first rebuild I started the car with the valve covers off. Oil all over the garage walls! High volume oil pump really worked well.
We all gotta start somewhere
But did she blow up ?
Lol. Been there, done that.
@@paulstovall3777 ha ha, I ‘m not the only one. Live and learn as they say,
@@jyuke9955
The best engine I ever built was a 350 four bolt main bored 40 over. I installed roller rockers, anti pump ups, ran 'double humper' heads (good luck with those anymore), Hooker headers, double 650 Holley carbs with 750 deep throw primary pumps (all the tricks), Offenhauser semi high rise. etc, etc, and installed the whole thing into a 1923 T bucket roadster. 550 hp in just under 1500 lbs with me in it.
It was fun. Aw, the days gone by.
You should have seen the look on the CHPs face who called me out to race one day going down highway 99 here in California. He couldn't believe it. 'I wanna drive that'. Uh, no ya don't. It'll make you shit yourself.... The days of yore.
Oh, and that was backed by a Muncie Rock Crusher 4 speed tranny (that I built) with a straight throw Hurse. shift.
Pro Mechanic- “Your engine needs overhauled..”
Owner - “I know a mechanic that said he could rebuild it for half of what you quoted.. thanks anyway”
Other “mechanic” :
They always come back lol
I showed this video to my wife and asked her if she saw anything wrong.
Within 2 seconds, she said ,
There's no oil pressure.
Does it even have oil in it ?
She is not a mechanic.
... 😄
There’s one really really important part, oil pickup tube and it’s over there on the bench.
Dammit I knew that went to something
Or the oil pump drive shaft Lmfaoo
So is this how long assembly lube lasts?
Probably didnt use any
@@leobardofilipe2367 I wonder what I was doing 2 years ago when I commented.
@@superduty4556 nevertheless good observation
@@leobardofilipe2367 I don’t think the oil pump was doing anything. The first time I saw any oil was on the floor, there should have been oil everywhere even at idle so if it wasn’t getting up top I doubt that the connecting rods or main bearing were getting anything. Someone forget to put in the pickup tube?
If the oil pump is driven off of the distributor that shaft could be missing or misaligned.
Boy these two are pretty sharp on engines aren't they lmao. No oil out of the push tubes to the top end should've been a red flag
Justin Lienhoop you know I was thinking the same thing. As they reved it and no oil bouncing off the lifters and I'm no engine expert.
Justin Lienhoop I noticed that too. Why didn't they see that. Can't really run an engine very long without valve covers.
No oil pressure, that should have been pissing oil out the rockers! red flag event!
Interesting how was making no mess from the rocker arms. Chevy tends to me messy with valve covers off. Sounded faintly like a rod knock in there under the exhaust noise.
The title of this video is why 90% of the guys I went to high school with didn't show up to the mud bog.
When you can blow up a sbc on a “fresh rebuild” you know you should find another hobby😂
Literally the easiest engine to build
I was freshening up these motors at 16 and 17 for mud trucks. Break it down hone it, new rings bearings, maybe an oil pump. Run the absolute shit out of it if it blows I'll get another one for 150$ it's easy to do dumb shit when you don't care bc your not really invested into it! I wouldn't even fire the motor unless i primed the shit out of it and knew it was getting good oil. Amateur mistake these guys made...
😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂
ah lets see no valve covers & no oil spitting out ? mabee a good time to see if the oil pump is still sitting on the work bench !
Lol!
phdfxwg Fischercat well it spit out oil in the end. Well, when I say oil, I really mean mud. the oil looks like it may have had water in it.
phdfxwg Fischercat might as well get rid of the car it was going into, junk the motor and retire their days as a home growing mechanic
Farms Grace No gas pedal too , that's not good, what idiots
phdfxwg Fischercat Yep!
How long will it run with half ass oil pressure?? Ooo. We found out. I wonder if the block was race prepped or if they had a good oil pump on her!
Can't believe they didn't notice the heads had no oil
Meth?
I’m thinking there’s an oil pressure issue, or oil starvation
I’d just imagine with no valve cover oil should be sloshing all over the place, but it looked bone dry the whole time
That's what I was thinking
Anytime I ran an engine with covers off you had smoke everywhere from it hitting the headers.
Im thinking they are a pair of cousins that kissed one night and built them this here motor baby 👶
My first thought exactly
Yep exactly, oil should be spitting out everywhere from roller rockers
Cletus; "That thingy you fixed is hanging out the side of the engine again Earl"
It's eye opening when you see how long it takes a power drill to pump the oil to the top of the engine after a fresh build.
“Give her da beaaaansssss bobby i want to hear her purrr”
BUT DAAAYAD!!
😆
You meant. ...poot
The condition of the work area explains it all!
A B S O L U T E L Y
Bill,go get some JB weld and spray paint. This thing is being picked up tonight.
😂😂😂
Fuckin send it "dude"
I would use oil control clips to control the flow of oil downwards. I’m kind of assuming that’s what this individual did because I don’t see one drop of oil spraying anywhere so he’s either using oil control clips or there’s no engine in the oil and that’s not the case because if there was no oil in the engine but if that was the case you would hear the engine, knocking really loud.
Knock knock
Whos there
Rod
Rod who
Rod through your block thats who
MICHAEL JAMES Lol. That should break the ice perfectly!
😆😂😭
HistoryHunter i usually dont laugh out loud but this timei had to🤣
Have you seen Rod? Hmm i think he went around the block....
Never came back.
Lol
Looks like another ASE certified master mechanic!
ASE = ask somebody else.
Yes as a mechanic I work with a lot of guys with all their certification have fun maybe two-thirds of them were the worst mechanics ever work with they had all their medals and credentials but you wouldn't want them to work on your car.
In my extensive experience, you don't ever "goose" a fresh build for at least half an hour to break in the camshaft. Those of you who noticed no oil from the valves also have a good eye. If it hasn't started oiling within the first 15 seconds, shut her down!!!
Raymund Brown I have only a little experience, and I know you don't do that! Some people shouldn't be allowed around cars.
roller rockers don't oil like stock rockers... 😐
Sean Gangstad I saw that.
You usually need to "prime" the oil pump so it gives oil without turning on the engine
That's why you prime the oil pump before installing the distributor. To ensure oil is coming from the rocker arms. Oil should have been flying from the rocker arms. Smoke would have been coming from the headers because of oil splatter.
Why would run it without priming the engine in the first place? First rule of a first start, #1 make sure your engine is well lubricated before you start the engine.
...did you put oil in it?...
...yeah...
...how about the oil pump?...
...oil pump?...
I remember one I had pretty much together and then I started questioning whether I had tightened the cam bolt. Pulled the water pump & timing cover (oil pump in cover; '74 Buick), checked torque and, yes, I HAD tightened it. Damn sure not going to forget a MAIN cap; hell, they're called MAIN for a reason : )
ALTERNATE CONVERSATION:
#1 Did you put oil in it?
#2 Yep... I think.
#1 What? You're not sure?
#2 Well, you're making me question myself. Tell, you what. Sling a rod, and see if anything leaks out.
#1 NOW yer' thinkin'. STAND BACK!
Paradise Road I don't think this was due to oil starvation, the engine was barely hot and they were only giving it a few revs, something must have been loose in the bottom end.
...yeah...I think you're right...it wasn't a seizure...it fell apart...
Camp Matthew He added that later
as the guy wrote in the disciption one of the rodcaps wasnt torqued to spec a bolt went loose and she threw a rod.
This is what happens when you're more focused on the headers you'll use once you have it on the stand than you are in actually rebuilding the engine...
Growing up with a mechanic dad, I seem to recall he would pull distributor wire so the engine wouldn’t start until he verified oil flow...
That's the correct way to do t. The tool cost 5 or 6 dollars and it takes about a minute to pressurize the oil system.
Prime the oil pump with an old distributor shaft and drill. Would've saved a bunch of money
@@michaelmcneely1034 not necessary if it's lubed during assembly..
I made my own oil pump primer with an old dist housing. Used it on every smallblock That I rebuilt including the 302 in my Camaro
@@Bryan-Hensley I have built 100s of small block chevys over the years and I still do it every single time just to verify the pump is working and I’m going to get oil to the top end before spinning the motor over. That first few seconds of run time having oil is crucial to engine longevity. That being said , everyone has their own way and own opinion . But i dont know any true builder who dont prime the motor first.
I love that upper radiator hose, maximun flow right there,lol
They were running that new invisible oil. So thin and slippery. 0w0.
Almost as good as air!
Lmao
"Hey Fred, did you torque the rod caps?"
"I couldn't find the damn torque wrench, so I did it by feel." "I mean, What's the worst that could happen?"
" That's Cool, fire her up"
Hold my beer
Nothing nearly as catastrophic as NOT PUTTING OIL IN THE FUCKING THING.
@@rooftopvoter3015
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I think they found out where those two "extra" bolts were supposed to go!
His rod bolt stretch chart only had 7 lines.
@@hordboy they must have done 7 lines .. Bolivian marching powder lol
Is that a con rod poking out the side of the block?
I'm thinking not assembled properly -> no oil pressure because it's all leaking out of misassembled big end or something, and the misassembly also caused the failure.
So I'm thinking failure like that not directly caused by no oil pressure, though of course that would have caused other damage.