That's how almost all the V8's are designed with the exception of flat plane v8's. Each cylinder has a companion that is in the same position at the same time but on opposite strokes. If #1 is tdc compression #6 is tdc exhaust. If #1 is on power #6 is on intake. Each cylinder has a companion. You almost got it right the way you wrote the firing order on that cardboard 1 and 6, 8 and 5, 4 and 7, 3 and 2 are companions. All manufacturers of v8's build them like that for balance. The reason chevy small block v8's are so popular is they are compact, light weight, make good power, are simple and reliable, came in a tone of vehicles so they are extremely common, and because they're common they're cheap from junkyards.
Um, I got it exactly right! 🤣 As I explained it, those are the companion cylinders that used. Two of the pistons are nearing the top of the stroke, and two of them are leaving the top of the stroke. Two of the cylinders are nearing the bottom of the stroke, and two of them are leaving the bottom of the stroke. That's exactly how I explained it. Look at the diagram again and you'll see that that's the way its drawn out. The design made the engine idle and accelerate very smoothly. That's why the engine became so popular. Thanks for watching! 😊
And you are correct in stating that the reason they are so popular NOW, is that there are literally millions of them in existence. However, I was talking about the way they were designed in 1950s. There weren't any in the junk yards then. The reason why they BECAME so popular back then was the way they were designed. That's the point I was trying to make. Yes there are millions of them out there NOW. And yes, parts are plentiful and cheap, but the only reason that that is true is because they became so popular in the 50s. They produced double the horsepower as a flat head engine, ran smoother, accelerated faster, and beat anything on the racetrack. The small block Chevy engine was singularly responsible for starting the hot rod movement in the 50s. Everyone wanted one & they were being put in almost every race vehicle imaginable!
I'm not saying you are wrong I'm just saying that the way the firing order is and the way it's set up with companion cylinders is not unique to the chevy and it must have been more to it's popularity. There were a bunch of v8s that were popular in hot rods in the 50's. Thier were Oldsmobile rockets, Buick nailheads, caddilacs, Ford flathead and Y blocks, dodge, Chrysler and desoto hemis and as soon as one of these cars got in a bad wreck that engine was in the junkyard. The engines didn't need to be in the junkyard though because drag racing took off in the 50's and lots of people raced thier regular daily driver and as aftermarket parts became available they would start hopping them up.
@@1320gearhead yes I believe I mentioned that in the video. As soon as the overhead valve engine was designed, everyone jumped on the bandwagon. People raced their dailies and snatched any overhead valve V8 they could find in the junkyard!
Very good presentation. I really enjoyed that. That bolt is there, (open to the fuel pump ‘push rod’) to carefully run in a long 3/8 bolt in, to hold the fuel pump push rod in place, when doing a fuel pump R&R. Also Chevrolet built a 302 engine w/290 hp.
Yep that's correct but what happens if that bolt is left out? And yes I left out the 302 engine. It's pretty rare so I forgot that one. And we all know that the 290 hp rating was completely underestimated! 🤣
Love your video great job ! They actually made 10 different cubic inch of a small block Chevrolet. 262, 265, 267, 283, 302, 305, 307, 327, 350, and 400. 👍
@@unclebob7937 Uh, don't know where you got that rubbish from, the Holden 253, and 308, were Australian designed and built engines, the metric version was improved and made as a 304, to meet the National race series limit of 5 litres. en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Holden_V8_engine
@@unclebob7937 You DO understand that the "C" in SBC, stands for Chevrolet, don't you? That while Holden was owned by Chevrolet, HOLDEN designed, and built, THEIR engine in Australia? Same way the 173 and 225 CID Chrysler engines were imported from the US, but Chrysler Austraia designed and built their own 245 and 265 "Hemi" in-line sixe engines that had nothing in common with the US engines. Sure, there WERE three SBC engines fitted to Holdens, the 307, which a friend had, the 327, and the 350 that another friend had, but the 253, 308 and 304 were 100% Aussie and NOT "Chevrolet". AFAIK, there is NOTHING interchangable between the US "Chevrolet" engine and the Australian "Holden" engine - 'cept maybe spark plugs and HT leads. I KNOW the oil filters are different, because the local 'parts shop' sold me a Holden one for my 350 when I specirfically stated it was for a Chev' engine, and while it screwed on perfectly, 5the rubber seal was in the wrong place and it pissed out oil - then the wankers wouldn't admit their mistake and refused to swap it to the filter I ASKED FOR, because it had been fitted to the engine, and I had to pay twice! They went out of business decades ago, and weren't missed! Same damn-fool idiots who, when I ordered the 42095, 14" WIX air filter, as I'd bought several times before from them, tried making me pay for TWO DIFFERENT, SMALLER air filters that were clearly NOT the same as my sample 14", because they were ordered in, even though they had the same part number - that was some F-up on WIX's part, as they had three different sizes with the same part number!
Yep! You can remove the short bolt that is in there and put a longer one in & run it up against the fuel pump rod to hold it in place while you change the fuel pump. If you leave the bolt out, what happens?
@Wags Automotive it will leak oil, do u know if any identification numbers can tell you a block that has been drilled for the fuel pump rod on the newer tbi and vortec 350s ? I think some had the hole drilled and some didn't. I've also seen ones with a block off plate where the mechanical fuel pump should go. I've seen just an open boss there as well. Thanks
@@KevinLader. Both methods work but the bolt is absolutely a positive hold. There has to be a short stub of a bolt put back in that hole to prevent an oil leak.
The bolt is there to hold the fuel pump rod during installation of a new fuel pump…you just have to use a longer bolt to hold the rod and when you’re done you put the original bolt back in.
Another two reasons the SBC is better than the offerings from ford and mopar is, 1. It is a rear mounted oil pump and sump, and has the best oiling system out any engine from the factory, you can race theses without an external oil pump. 2. The water pump bolts straight to the block and not to the timing cover. Whereas the ford and mopar small blocks have the water pump bolt to the timing cover taking up more space under the hood and creating an extra gasket failure point. That will turn your oil into a milkshake if it fails!
Ford FE has a water pump that dousnt bolt to the timing cover. And I think there is a good argument that it's not the best oiling system. It's not priority main oiling. It's camshaft first like most of the other engines. Also, a sbc water pump fails more than any other water pump I've ever seen? Im not hating, I like the sbc. But we gota be real.
@@jesseduke694 The FE is a big block I was talking about small blocks. And yes it is true that the SBC oils the cam first just like every other stock production engine. But for your street car priority main is not needed but if you so wish you can buy an after market Dart block that is priority main. Also I have always heard the SBC water pump fails often but I have never had that problem honest. Maybe the old water pumps were weaker than the new after market units.
@The0utmode I've replaced newer & older water pumps. My advice has always been if you buy a chevy with a small block just go to the parts store & buy a water pump & just keep it behind the seat or where ever. It's not if you will need it, it's when.
I always thought it was so popular because all you need is a gas line to the carburetor and one wire to the distributor and a starter to crank it over and you can start it sitting on the ground !!!
To lock the fuel pump rod when you put a longer bolt in when you replace the fuel pump so it doesn't drop down on to give a bad day love your video and have a blessed day today 🙏
@@harisomic8712 All Dodge v8's, buick, olds, cadillac and AMC have the same cylinder numbering layout, firing order and firing sequence. It's not unique to the small block chevy.
I think the interchangeability and the aftermarket as well as Chevy performance parts from the factory also helped alot. All of these factors played a part.
@@cuzz63 Absolutely! The small block Chevy engine was the first V8 engine that was hot rodded in large numbers. Aftermarketers started making parts like crazy and never looked back. They still make parts for them today! 👍😁
firing order and whatnot aside I think Uncle Tony's Garage hit the nail on the head that the reason the Chevy v8 got ahead of everyone out of the gate with massive aftermarket support is that ALL the v8 engines in cars & trucks had rear sump oil pans (unlike Ford & Mopar who had front sump in cars). On the front sump cars drag racers would get oil starvation on launch and then spin bearings easier than the rear sump designs......on another side note, turn that engine over and count the cylinder numbers again.....they are in order of rod journal.
Yes they are in number of rod journal. On each journal, the odd one is first and the even one is behind that. That's why it's odd on the driver's side and even on the passenger side.
Also he mentioned the valve train, because of individual rockers and ball stud design. They were more easily adjustable to prevent valve float at high rpms.
I neglected to block that bolt hole on my 67 327 and vacuum and fumes were coming out of it. It was previously blocked off by the front motor mounts in my 57 bel air
The bolt goes where the fuel pump rod is , the bolt is there just so oil doesn’t leak out it’s open to inside engine. Some engines have brackets bolted there like for air pumps and serpentine systems.
I would agree that is a place to put a longer bolt in and would hold your fuel pump rod in position to install a pump but have to remember to loosen and put the cap bolt back in place
For so many years many people got so sick of hearing small block Chevrolet. So, we would gladly spend a bit more to build a better mouse trap. The reason was what we called the glow factor. Nothing better than smacking a Chevy with an underdog like an AMC. You glowed because you knew they were pissed losing to an underdog engine. It all was so worth it. Did not want to be a damn sheep.
Your response is laughable..😂 Try as you may and bring your AMC or brand X to a WORLD OF OUTLAW SPRINT CAR RACE or those wicked Sprint Boats ! If you check as of last year the SMALL BLOCK CHEVROLET held the Bonneville salt Flats fastest piston engine world land speed record..! The 302 Z/28 smoked the competition ( all comers ) in the 1968 & 69 TRANS AM Championships. And since NASCAR went to the small block the Chevrolet has won close to 3- times as many races as FORD and brand X…EVER HEARD OF DALE EARNHARDT..? ? I’ll agree with you if you are building a street rod and want something different… well be my guest and use brand X .. 😎
That bolt has to be there because the hole intersects the passage where the fuel pump pushrod go's. You can use a longer bolt to hold the pushrod in place when replacing the pump but you can change the pump without touching that bolt. The reason the four bosses are on the front of the block is because some early applications had an engine mount that bolted onto the front. My 1951 Ford F-1 has a front mount that uses those holes to adapt the chevy engine to the original flathead mounts on the frame.
You need to explain the slight firing order difference, in later years - as GM made a tweak.that bolt has to be there, to “plug” the hole, which is only typically used to hold the fuel pump shaft, when changing the fuel pump (using a slightly longer bolt.
That does go through to the fuel pump pushrod passage. Without it you would have a beautiful oil leak. A slightly longer bolt screwed lightly against the pushrod keeps it from dropping when you change a mechanical fuel pump.
A TANK OF AN ENGINE HAD A 350 330HP IO IN MY WELLCRAFT 23 KNOTS AT FULL WGT 12 GAL/HOUR F/W COOLED PUT 2000 HRS ON IT AND SOLD THE BOAT AND IT STILL WAS RUNNING GOOD 55 PSI OIL PRESS HOT
It's for the fuel pump rod that works of the cam to make fuel pump work. When changing fuel pump remove short bolt need one little longer to hold fuel pump shaft in place
*_Pull up that "Maple Motors" channel on RUclips any car you want. He drives every car he sells over a light and camera so you can see he's not trying to sell you a Flintsone Mobile. Whatever setup he uses you can clearly hear the plinkety plink of each cylinder firing. It's really kool. Combine a lumpety lump camshaft with the Chevy Firing Order no wonder the Mouse always sounded so good._*
@@Imnotyourdoormat Cool! Watch my other videos and you'll see I put my cars on jack stands and show the underside so you can see every imperfection! 👍😁
That boat hole will leak oil. Your fuel pump rod comes up through there. There is a tool to hold that pump rod in place while you’re changing the fuel pump.
The bolt is there to seal off the threads when your not trying to hold the fuel pump rod from falling out when you change the fuel pump. To change fuel pumps, you remove the short bolt and put in a longer bolt that locks the fuel pump rod in place so you can remove the pump and not have the rod fall out. Also you miss a motor, it goes 265/ 283, 302,( 283 crank in a 327 block) 305/307,327/350 & 400 PLUS the 383 a 400 crank in a 350 block.
That sadly is the biggest killer of the ls the reason for low oil pressure is actually not the engine or pumps fault it is the o ring on the pickup tube where it connects to the pump. Replace it when it first starts to get low pressure and your engine will run forever.
A friend of mine asked why doesn't Chevy bring back the 350 and I told him they couldn't even if they wanted to because Mercury Marine bought the rights to the original. Same with the 4.3 v6
I agree the gen 1 sbc was more reliable than modern engines, but that has little to do with the design of the actual basic engine. The ls engine is far stronger and more reliable than a 350 the only design flaw on the ls was the o ring on the oil pickup tube. Even if they brought back the 350 it would still have to have all the modern electronics, vvt ,afm and run with modern thin oil.
@Robert-w5u4v Yes but the LS is expensive to buy, Expensive to build and there aren't as many of them. And I don't expect them to bring back the 350. But they could have continued making blocks, heads, cranks, rods, pistons, etc and improved on the design while making them stronger and more powerful. It's already been proven by Dart and other manufacturers. You can buy a small block "Chevy" engine from them and get it in much bigger cubic inches and they can make as much power as and LS and are far superior in strength. Chevrolet could have done this and made a killing off a modern, race version of the small block Chevy engine just selling parts. But they would rather produce garbage than a durable, quality product.
@@Robert-w5u4v Engines made today are engineered to fail. Cheap quality parts, low grade cast iron, even parts made of plastic? WTF? Why would anyone ever think it's ok to make timing chain guides from plastic? Or intake manifolds, valve covers, etc. They design them to fail intentionally so your forced to either spend a ton of money fixing them or go buy another car. Absolute garbage.
@@KennethGerecke-k8w Who cares when you've got a billion of them! And since there are double, triple, quadruple of them than other engines out there, yes more, of them will break! Duh! 🤣🤣🤣
@@henrysmith8012 Yes sir they are! Build one right and it'll run for a long time! My 355 in my Chevelle SS is 20 years old and still turns 7500 rpms when I nail it! 😁👍
Thanks made my day I feel like a more valuable person now. I’m going to go around and repeat all of this like I’ve known this for years . I’m not going to tell them I’ve only known it for a week . And really I’ve been reading about engines for fifty years . My finances make me use 250 sixes which is another cool motets . In-line six’s army dead yet. 1964 gm ha interesting trans they put behind it called a Muncie 319 it was an electric add on overdrive bolted to the back of a Muncie 318 unsycronized first gear you could in there manually kick it in and out and make the three speed a six speed. Cool thing that you can find . I’ve known that for a week .
Am I missing something here ? Does any automotive enthusiast Not know the SBC and its history ? Has anyone ever actually said that it’s Not ubiquitous? Seriously? I know I’m 56 and I used to think younger people didn’t know - but I’ve found out that they Do.
I’ve never heard of it explained in simple terms like that the drawing with the two circles is what really tied it all together. What I’m wondering is if you could use this same theory in an eight cylinder but a w8 and put it in a motercycle like it was an l4 . The Bugatti W16 is the fastest car for sale in the world at something like 306 miles an hour from the factory. It has a vw engine W16
Because they paid huge sums of money to buy the racing organizations, paid magazines to run articles to make them seem more powerful than they were, for instance you would see something on the cover like 300 HP Ford, 350 hp Mopar small block, 800 hp Chevy. Then when you read the articles you will find two naturally aspirated small blocks, the Ford and Mopar, against a blown big block Chevy. When Car Craft held a build off of all the American Big Blocks except the Cadillac, Buick came in first, Mopar small port 440 was next then Chevy. The Chevy got square port heads and still didn’t make the cut. A few months later they took the Chevy, put a bigger cam in it, better intake than the competition etc, and used that to make them sound more powerful, giving the rest of the field no further attention. Thayer also lied,constantly about the horsepower their engines would make claiming more than they actually did.the other brands lied in the racers favor, stating that their engines made less power than they actually did. In the early 80’s Comp Cams came out with their High Energy cam designs. There ad campaign started with the 268 cam in a Chevy 350, then Ford and when they finally put the cam in a small block Mopar, the 360 was the ONLY engine that made one hp per cubic inch with that 268 grind. The others fell way short. Again advertising sold chevys and that worked well for customers that didn’t do their own research.
@@kennethcohagen3539 I don't think that's why Chevy is more popular. Chevy outsold Ford and Dodge for years. Plus the small block Chevy engine is basically the same design for over 30 years with parts Interchange across all the engines, while Ford and Mopar didn't produce as many vehicles, so there are less engines available, and they changed the design throughout the years so there's some issues with parts being interchangeable. Everyone wonders why Mopars are so much more expensive to build even today because lower production means less availability so parts cost more. There were literally millions of small block Chevy engines produced so more companies offered parts for them which translates to more competition and lower prices. That's why they are still one of the most popular engines to build even today, 40 years after they stopped producing the original design.
Say what ever you want... nobody but nobody won more races and took home more trophies then Chevrolet... The most winningest car in the history of NASCAR is the Monte Carlo.,.car craft tested a 66 327 Nova against a66 Dodge Coronet 426 hemi.. both of them came off the showroom floor.. in California.. 7 out of 7 races the Nova beat it.... Like the pros say a good Street. 427 l 88 Corvette.. will bet a good competition 427 Cobra.. any day of the week
@@WagsAutomotivewhen ever a new speed part came out.. it was always available for Chevrolet 1st.. the most popular engine in the whole world... Then the part would follow to the next engine
Inline Six would wipe them all up the whole time, but the Sound of the V8 Produced a bunch of Dummies!!! The Brazilians are laughing at Drag Racers in the States, that little red Chevy Inline Six that everyone Hated, check out what the Brazilians are doing with it, same head & block!!!
That hole is in line with the fuel pump rod that has oil running down it for lubrication of the rod and fuel pump and oil will drain out of the hole if the bolt is not there. I eat, sleep and breath the SBC.Danny Banford Hyrum UT.
@@henrysmith8012 Ya they definitely flow better than the SBC heads, but the SBC heads were designed 40 years ago. I'd hope they figured out how to improve flow on cylinder heads since then. And the new aftermarket SBC heads outflow the LS heads so the SBC can still make as much power as an LS engine with the right upgrades! 😁👍
Well, you got almost everything wrong there. For example, the cylinders paired are 1&6, 8&5, 4&7, 2&3 for their positions in the firing order, each pair 360 degrees apart. NOTE, that's the early firing order, the last of the engines used a 1,8,7,3,6,4,2 firing order, for better breathing balance, IIRC. Reasons for their popularity was their compact size, light weight, standardised engine mountings, bellhousing bolt pattern, intake and exhaust port positions, interchangability of parts because, with the exception of the 400, they used the same mains, big ends, connecting rod lengths, etc. and were internally balanced, with the most common bore size being 4", which some 283's could be bored a 1/8th to. All this, with a very long production run, meant not only a LOT of engines availably cheaply from wrecking yards, etc, and parts swapping between OEM options, but it made it possible for the aftermarket to sell 'hot-rod' parts for the engines MUCH cheaper than for the opposition due to economies of scale. There were 'better" engines, but because they were almost custom parts rather than production, they were a LOT more expensive to manufacture. Same with the BBC!
@@gordowg1wg145 Um, did you actually watch the video? Because in it I literally wrote on the piece of paper showing the cylinders paired EXACTLY the way you say they are! 🤣🤪👍And obviously the fact that the bolt mounting surfaces were all the same helped as well. But the main reason was affordability and availability. This video wasn't about those reasons however. It was about the DESIGN of the engine, not the other things you mention. Oh, and The 283 used different mains as Well. Oh and I just noticed - if the "cylinders were paired 360 degrees apart" they'd be EXACTLY IN THE SAME POSITION because 360 degrees is a FULL CIRCLE! 🤣🤪👍 I think you mean they were 180 degrees apart which is correct. So guess what? YOU got everything wrong! 🤣🤪👍
If the smallblock Chev firing order was so superior why did GM change the firing order in the LS engines to the Ford Cleveland firing order? Yes both engines have the same firing order, it looks different because Ford and GM number the cylinders differently.
Funny thing about the firing order in a chevy. When Bill Elliot was winning championships, his ford had a chevy firing order. I know this because at the time I had friends that worked at the shop that built the crankshaft, and I often wondered why Ford kept their firing order after learning which was better.
YOU ARE A LITTLE MISTAKEN , I THINK BILL ELLIOTT ONLY WON ONE CUP CHAMPIONSHIP ? IN THAT ERA HE DID WIN A LOT OF RACES UNTIL GM COULD UPGRADE THEIR CYLINDER HEAD (18 DEGREE..AND SP2.2 ) IF YOU DO SOME CHECKING SOME CHEVROLET CUP ENGINES WERE BUILT WITH A FIRING ORDER CHANGE..
@@tonywoody5696 you are not really correct about Bill ELLIOTT… He didn’t win championships , i believe he won only one cup championship…Nascar Chevrolet small blocks did try a different firing order with the 18 degree and the SP-2 headed beasts.. it was a 1-7 firing order swap, look it up…different tracks required different set-ups…
The bolt serve for fuel pump push rod ,no bolt big leak! if you want to upgrade your firing order on a sbc first gen install the new camshaft from the ls enginev summit is making this version for this gen 1 it will be 18726543 instead of 18436572, a better contribution less heat and balance, and more power!
the sbc was a cheap economy v8 like the windsor ford next to none made any real power compared to the bbc,pontiac v8 buick v8 fe, mle, 385 series ford v8s to build power you would need to toss out everything but the block on the sbc then at 500hp the block is trash so why not start with a motor like the others listed where you could keep the vast majority of the motor and build real power with a mostly stock engine rather than that economy garbage like the sbc or windsor or a train mopar boat ancors? food for thought.
@@mikebose-kf3xu OK I never said the SBC is badder than any other motor, especially if you want to start talking about big block engines. They obviously had more torque and made great power as well! And there are plenty of SBC engines making more than 500 HP as well. I don't care what engine you like just keep the hot rodding spirit alive man! 😁👍
@@WagsAutomotive yes i agree, i'm not knocking the choice its just a reference to the factual data and have seen my share of failures on small v8's and even large ones due to performance mods i try to stay within the design tolerances. the list i gave are engines people can commonly find and budget build not outlandish crap like hemis 429 bosses or 427 sohc engines. i have been involved in a 30 over stroker 454 build that was very streetable and made over 700hp and over 800ftlb with no power adders. [this is pushing the design of a bbc] the other build this impala had before was a 383 sbc that made around 500+ and did not end well [cracked block and other cascading failures] and this is just one example. have a great day
A lot more aftermarket support. In the seventies you could take a sbc and kinda make it run pretty good from go fast parts stores. You couldn't do that with a ford but in reality when they both get the same go fast parts both the Windsor and Cleveland ford will out perform it. For a long time they were substantially cheaper to build but not so much anymore.
@@MikeBurks-il4ko It all depends on the build, car it's going into, transmission, rearend etc. Any engine can outperform any other engine on any given day.
What a pointless video! Most v8s do exactly what your talking about and Chevy was a long way from being the first to do it. That had NOTHING to do with it's popularity vs other v8s. It's not even the best engineered v8, it's 23 degrees valve angle sucks when they build high performance heads they make 18 degree heads and move the valves just like a SB mopar. When they build a high performance sbc another thing they'll do is shaft mount rockers... just like a small block Mopar. They also like to put in longer rods... you guessed it, just like a small block Mopar. When they want really big cubes they run a taller deck just like a small block Mopar. The oil routing around the cam bearings is a nightmare. The only reason it is the most popular is because advertising!
@@DavidPhillips-rs5dq OK so I'm guessing you are an angry MOPAR dude? It's ok bro just keep the hot rodding spirit alive whatever you drive! I've got a couple of badass MOPARS myself! Can you say 440 six pack! 😳😁👍
@WagsAutomotive saying small block Chevy is the best motor because it's most popular is like saying McDonald's had the best hamburger because they're the best selling burger... the SBC is the McDonald's of engines, it is far from the best choice though. It's not just Mopar either ford had stuff with shaft rockers, 460s can easily go over 560 cid, AMC and even study baker had great innovations also. Yeah I'm mostly a Mopar guy but I do like em all.
Not is your running a flat plane crank = chevrolet bros = worked for FORD that`s where they got the ideas ! anyway = your point is = meaningless ! LS engine = is a CLEAN SHEET ENGINE = you do not really know =
That's how almost all the V8's are designed with the exception of flat plane v8's. Each cylinder has a companion that is in the same position at the same time but on opposite strokes. If #1 is tdc compression #6 is tdc exhaust. If #1 is on power #6 is on intake. Each cylinder has a companion. You almost got it right the way you wrote the firing order on that cardboard 1 and 6, 8 and 5, 4 and 7, 3 and 2 are companions. All manufacturers of v8's build them like that for balance. The reason chevy small block v8's are so popular is they are compact, light weight, make good power, are simple and reliable, came in a tone of vehicles so they are extremely common, and because they're common they're cheap from junkyards.
Um, I got it exactly right! 🤣 As I explained it, those are the companion cylinders that used. Two of the pistons are nearing the top of the stroke, and two of them are leaving the top of the stroke. Two of the cylinders are nearing the bottom of the stroke, and two of them are leaving the bottom of the stroke. That's exactly how I explained it. Look at the diagram again and you'll see that that's the way its drawn out. The design made the engine idle and accelerate very smoothly. That's why the engine became so popular. Thanks for watching! 😊
And you are correct in stating that the reason they are so popular NOW, is that there are literally millions of them in existence. However, I was talking about the way they were designed in 1950s. There weren't any in the junk yards then. The reason why they BECAME so popular back then was the way they were designed. That's the point I was trying to make. Yes there are millions of them out there NOW. And yes, parts are plentiful and cheap, but the only reason that that is true is because they became so popular in the 50s. They produced double the horsepower as a flat head engine, ran smoother, accelerated faster, and beat anything on the racetrack. The small block Chevy engine was singularly responsible for starting the hot rod movement in the 50s. Everyone wanted one & they were being put in almost every race vehicle imaginable!
I'm not saying you are wrong I'm just saying that the way the firing order is and the way it's set up with companion cylinders is not unique to the chevy and it must have been more to it's popularity. There were a bunch of v8s that were popular in hot rods in the 50's. Thier were Oldsmobile rockets, Buick nailheads, caddilacs, Ford flathead and Y blocks, dodge, Chrysler and desoto hemis and as soon as one of these cars got in a bad wreck that engine was in the junkyard. The engines didn't need to be in the junkyard though because drag racing took off in the 50's and lots of people raced thier regular daily driver and as aftermarket parts became available they would start hopping them up.
@@1320gearhead yes I believe I mentioned that in the video. As soon as the overhead valve engine was designed, everyone jumped on the bandwagon. People raced their dailies and snatched any overhead valve V8 they could find in the junkyard!
Got a gear drive (Pete Jackson?) must have been hot rodded.
Very good presentation. I really enjoyed that. That bolt is there, (open to the fuel pump ‘push rod’) to carefully run in a long 3/8 bolt in, to hold the fuel pump push rod in place, when doing a fuel pump R&R. Also Chevrolet built a 302 engine w/290 hp.
Yep that's correct but what happens if that bolt is left out? And yes I left out the 302 engine. It's pretty rare so I forgot that one. And we all know that the 290 hp rating was completely underestimated! 🤣
@@xjmd09 290 HP 🤣🤣🤣
A glob of grease works too!
290 HP Dyno at 513 HP..... lols
@@Pork-Chopperexactly
Love your video great job ! They actually made 10 different cubic inch of a small block Chevrolet. 262, 265, 267, 283, 302,
305, 307, 327, 350, and 400. 👍
Yep! I missed a few! 🤣
All with identical exterior dimensions
@@unclebob7937
Uh, don't know where you got that rubbish from, the Holden 253, and 308, were Australian designed and built engines, the metric version was improved and made as a 304, to meet the National race series limit of 5 litres.
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Holden_V8_engine
@@unclebob7937
You DO understand that the "C" in SBC, stands for Chevrolet, don't you? That while Holden was owned by Chevrolet, HOLDEN designed, and built, THEIR engine in Australia? Same way the 173 and 225 CID Chrysler engines were imported from the US, but Chrysler Austraia designed and built their own 245 and 265 "Hemi" in-line sixe engines that had nothing in common with the US engines.
Sure, there WERE three SBC engines fitted to Holdens, the 307, which a friend had, the 327, and the 350 that another friend had, but the 253, 308 and 304 were 100% Aussie and NOT "Chevrolet".
AFAIK, there is NOTHING interchangable between the US "Chevrolet" engine and the Australian "Holden" engine - 'cept maybe spark plugs and HT leads. I KNOW the oil filters are different, because the local 'parts shop' sold me a Holden one for my 350 when I specirfically stated it was for a Chev' engine, and while it screwed on perfectly, 5the rubber seal was in the wrong place and it pissed out oil - then the wankers wouldn't admit their mistake and refused to swap it to the filter I ASKED FOR, because it had been fitted to the engine, and I had to pay twice! They went out of business decades ago, and weren't missed!
Same damn-fool idiots who, when I ordered the 42095, 14" WIX air filter, as I'd bought several times before from them, tried making me pay for TWO DIFFERENT, SMALLER air filters that were clearly NOT the same as my sample 14", because they were ordered in, even though they had the same part number - that was some F-up on WIX's part, as they had three different sizes with the same part number!
@gordowg1wg145 well..
ALRIGHTY THEN!
Hold the fuel pump rod in place
Yep! You can remove the short bolt that is in there and put a longer one in & run it up against the fuel pump rod to hold it in place while you change the fuel pump. If you leave the bolt out, what happens?
@Wags Automotive it will leak oil, do u know if any identification numbers can tell you a block that has been drilled for the fuel pump rod on the newer tbi and vortec 350s ? I think some had the hole drilled and some didn't. I've also seen ones with a block off plate where the mechanical fuel pump should go. I've seen just an open boss there as well. Thanks
Put a bit of grease on the fuel pump rod it will stay in place .
@@KevinLader. Both methods work but the bolt is absolutely a positive hold. There has to be a short stub of a bolt put back in that hole to prevent an oil leak.
@@WagsAutomotive oil leak
The bolt is there to hold the fuel pump rod during installation of a new fuel pump…you just have to use a longer bolt to hold the rod and when you’re done you put the original bolt back in.
It's also there to act as a plug. If it wasn't there oil would run out.
It’s amazing how many mechanics don’t know that’s to hold the fuel pump rod in place
@@caspianwendellI'm amazed not many people know to turn the engine over to the heel of the pump lobe .
A glob of grease works too!
@Pork-Chopper you've done this before .....
I had a 327 in my first Camero and a 350 in my second both were great engines. A lot more reliable than today's engines .
But you never noticed camaro was not spelled camero?
Another two reasons the SBC is better than the offerings from ford and mopar is, 1. It is a rear mounted oil pump and sump, and has the best oiling system out any engine from the factory, you can race theses without an external oil pump. 2. The water pump bolts straight to the block and not to the timing cover. Whereas the ford and mopar small blocks have the water pump bolt to the timing cover taking up more space under the hood and creating an extra gasket failure point. That will turn your oil into a milkshake if it fails!
@@The0utmode Yep both are true! SBC best small block ever made! 😁👍
Ford FE has a water pump that dousnt bolt to the timing cover. And I think there is a good argument that it's not the best oiling system. It's not priority main oiling. It's camshaft first like most of the other engines. Also, a sbc water pump fails more than any other water pump I've ever seen? Im not hating, I like the sbc. But we gota be real.
@@jesseduke694 The FE is a big block I was talking about small blocks. And yes it is true that the SBC oils the cam first just like every other stock production engine. But for your street car priority main is not needed but if you so wish you can buy an after market Dart block that is priority main. Also I have always heard the SBC water pump fails often but I have never had that problem honest. Maybe the old water pumps were weaker than the new after market units.
@The0utmode I've replaced newer & older water pumps. My advice has always been if you buy a chevy with a small block just go to the parts store & buy a water pump & just keep it behind the seat or where ever. It's not if you will need it, it's when.
Best oiling system 👎!
I always thought it was so popular because all you need is a gas line to the carburetor and one wire to the distributor and a starter to crank it over and you can start it sitting on the ground !!!
@@arthurgay5746 Exactly! 😁👍
To lock the fuel pump rod when you put a longer bolt in when you replace the fuel pump so it doesn't drop down on to give a bad day love your video and have a blessed day today 🙏
@@markhuyette8509 Thank you sir! Be sure to subscribe and watch my other videos as well! 😁👍
There are many things that make the small block chevy unique, awesome and popular but that ain't 1 of them.
You made no sense
@@harisomic8712 All Dodge v8's, buick, olds, cadillac and AMC have the same cylinder numbering layout, firing order and firing sequence. It's not unique to the small block chevy.
I think the interchangeability and the aftermarket as well as Chevy performance parts from the factory also helped alot. All of these factors played a part.
@@cuzz63 Absolutely! The small block Chevy engine was the first V8 engine that was hot rodded in large numbers. Aftermarketers started making parts like crazy and never looked back. They still make parts for them today! 👍😁
3 reasons: reliability, easy maintenance and decent price parts
@@candykid5135 Exactly! 😁
AND EASY HIGH-PERFORMANCE 450 -600 HP WITHOUT BREAKING YOUR WIFES BANK ACCOUNT 😮😂
firing order and whatnot aside I think Uncle Tony's Garage hit the nail on the head that the reason the Chevy v8 got ahead of everyone out of the gate with massive aftermarket support is that ALL the v8 engines in cars & trucks had rear sump oil pans (unlike Ford & Mopar who had front sump in cars). On the front sump cars drag racers would get oil starvation on launch and then spin bearings easier than the rear sump designs......on another side note, turn that engine over and count the cylinder numbers again.....they are in order of rod journal.
Yes they are in number of rod journal. On each journal, the odd one is first and the even one is behind that. That's why it's odd on the driver's side and even on the passenger side.
Also he mentioned the valve train, because of individual rockers and ball stud design. They were more easily adjustable to prevent valve float at high rpms.
The bolt is there to keep oil from leaking because the fuel pump push rod is behind it and it has to be a short bolt so it doesn't bind the push rod
This guys got it figured out 👍
Yes but what happens if that bolt is left out?
It will leak oil all over the front of the engine
@@charliedavis4195 yep. And if you don't catch it, it'll destroy the engine.
My 72 Nova operates and appears new on her original 350 V-8. Automatically shifted.
Smooth as silk and surprisingly fast.
@@billbright1755 Cool they are tough engines! 👍😁
I neglected to block that bolt hole on my 67 327 and vacuum and fumes were coming out of it. It was previously blocked off by the front motor mounts in my 57 bel air
@@slickrick5735 I've done it before as well. Had an oil leak and it took me forever to figure out where it was coming from! 🤣🤣🤣
The bolt goes where the fuel pump rod is , the bolt is there just so oil doesn’t leak out it’s open to inside engine. Some engines have brackets bolted there like for air pumps and serpentine systems.
What makes the Chevy small block so great is 5 head bolts per cylinder .
@@donaldcavey6241 Definitely helped with sealing the heads! And a definite bonus when boosting or running nitrous! 😁👍
Thank you and have a blessed day today 🙏
@@markhuyette8509 Thank you sir! Be sure to subscribe and watch my other videos as well! 😁👍
It holds the fuel pump rod for you during replacement
@@glennmanchester5696 You are correct sir! 😁👍
They did sneak a 302 in there for a little bit in 1970 i think. Good video explanation.
@@Don.E.63 Thank you and sorry I missed a couple of them! 😁👍
It's a motor mount bolt held over from 1955. It goes into the fuel pump pushrod bore, also.
Yes, but what happens if it's not there? 😁
@@WagsAutomotive Oil is struck! You know that.
@@jw4620 oh yeah! Been there done that! 🤣
Gap between cylinders is impressive as well, the other guys the cylinders sometimes met, that extra beef mattered
I would agree that is a place to put a longer bolt in and would hold your fuel pump rod in position to install a pump but have to remember to loosen and put the cap bolt back in place
@@toddmesecar9558 Definitely, unless you want a broken camshaft! 😳😁
For so many years many people got so sick of hearing small block Chevrolet. So, we would gladly spend a bit more to build a better mouse trap. The reason was what we called the glow factor. Nothing better than smacking a Chevy with an underdog like an AMC. You glowed because you knew they were pissed losing to an underdog engine. It all was so worth it. Did not want to be a damn sheep.
Your response is laughable..😂 Try as you may and bring your AMC or brand X to a WORLD OF OUTLAW SPRINT CAR RACE or those wicked Sprint Boats ! If you check as of last year the SMALL BLOCK CHEVROLET held the Bonneville salt Flats fastest piston engine world land speed record..! The 302 Z/28 smoked the competition ( all comers ) in the 1968 & 69 TRANS AM Championships. And since NASCAR went to the small block the Chevrolet has won close to 3- times as many races as FORD and brand X…EVER HEARD OF DALE EARNHARDT..? ? I’ll agree with you if you are building a street rod and want something different… well be my guest and use brand X .. 😎
@@Hotrodclassic Chevy Fan Boy...lol
@@mikecarr1378a lot to be a fan about. Chevy is a winner and your line of thinking is hipster speak. I bet you choke down hoppy bitter shitty IPAs too
That bolt has to be there because the hole intersects the passage where the fuel pump pushrod go's. You can use a longer bolt to hold the pushrod in place when replacing the pump but you can change the pump without touching that bolt.
The reason the four bosses are on the front of the block is because some early applications had an engine mount that bolted onto the front. My 1951 Ford F-1 has a front mount that uses those holes to adapt the chevy engine to the original flathead mounts on the frame.
Correct. But what happens if you leave the bolt out? And yes, my 55 Chevy uses the same mounting points.
@@WagsAutomotive Don’t leave the bolt out.
@@glockman8091 what happens if you do?
@@WagsAutomotive Could leak a little oil …not 100% sure. Do you know the answer. My advice is don’t leave the bolt out.
Access to hold up the fuel pump pushrod when installing the fuel pump!
@@KenFike You are correct sir! 😁👍
I won't argue, but I still love a Ford 300 six 😊
@@TerryDodd-ho8bf Nothing wrong with that! I've got a couple of 292s I'm excited to work on. Those sixes can make pretty decent power! 👍😁
Its also wildly popular because in almost all cases, if it will turn over it will run. LOL
@@Hillbillygarage1215 Well that's a good thing! 🤣👍
GM also made a 262 and 267 and a Hi performance 302 that was used in the 67 through 69 Camaro Z28
@@RandyGeorgeson Ya I missed a couple! 🤣👍
You need to explain the slight firing order difference, in later years - as GM made a tweak.that bolt has to be there, to “plug” the hole, which is only typically used to hold the fuel pump shaft, when changing the fuel pump (using a slightly longer bolt.
@@maxmoore8876 Slight firing order difference? 🤷
That does go through to the fuel pump pushrod passage. Without it you would have a beautiful oil leak. A slightly longer bolt screwed lightly against the pushrod keeps it from dropping when you change a mechanical fuel pump.
@@RichardOkerson Yes, and Yes! 🤣👍
A TANK OF AN ENGINE HAD A 350 330HP IO IN MY WELLCRAFT 23 KNOTS AT FULL WGT 12 GAL/HOUR F/W COOLED PUT 2000 HRS ON IT AND SOLD THE BOAT AND IT STILL WAS RUNNING GOOD 55 PSI OIL PRESS HOT
@@johnfranklin4567 Nothing wrong with a 350 Chevy in a boat! 🤣👍
Excellent video
@@mixerdog79 Thank you sir I appreciate it! Be sure to subscribe and watch my other videos as well! 😁👍
It's for the fuel pump rod that works of the cam to make fuel pump work. When changing fuel pump remove short bolt need one little longer to hold fuel pump shaft in place
*_Pull up that "Maple Motors" channel on RUclips any car you want. He drives every car he sells over a light and camera so you can see he's not trying to sell you a Flintsone Mobile. Whatever setup he uses you can clearly hear the plinkety plink of each cylinder firing. It's really kool. Combine a lumpety lump camshaft with the Chevy Firing Order no wonder the Mouse always sounded so good._*
@@Imnotyourdoormat Cool! Watch my other videos and you'll see I put my cars on jack stands and show the underside so you can see every imperfection! 👍😁
The best design feature was having the thrust bearing in n the rear main.
@@sheridenboord7853 Ya that was a great improvement over past designs for sure! 😁👍
That boat hole will leak oil. Your fuel pump rod comes up through there. There is a tool to hold that pump rod in place while you’re changing the fuel pump.
@@mikebuckley5740 Correct and correct! 😁👍
The bolt is there to seal off the threads when your not trying to hold the fuel pump rod from falling out when you change the fuel pump. To change fuel pumps, you remove the short bolt and put in a longer bolt that locks the fuel pump rod in place so you can remove the pump and not have the rod fall out. Also you miss a motor, it goes 265/ 283, 302,( 283 crank in a 327 block) 305/307,327/350 & 400 PLUS the 383 a 400 crank in a 350 block.
That bolt is for the fuel pump rod, to hold it up before fuel pump installation.
They also made a 302
Yes I have already been called out on that! 🙄 I'm a dork! 🤪 Because that was the baddest one of them all!
Only thing is that a lot of them were equipped with the temperamental Rochester Quadrajet 4-barrel carburetors.
@@whirlpool1978 True! Thank God for the Holley 600 and 750 carbs! 😁👍
Nah, it was a great carbie, but complicated, and SO many "tuners" messed them up through ignorance, that they got a very undeserved reputation!
@gordowg1wg145 They were fine on a stock engine but very temperamental on a modified engine! 👍😁
I'm a tired old mechanic. By my experience, the SBC. has better longevity than the LS. I've run into low oil pressure problems on the LS.
That sadly is the biggest killer of the ls the reason for low oil pressure is actually not the engine or pumps fault it is the o ring on the pickup tube where it connects to the pump. Replace it when it first starts to get low pressure and your engine will run forever.
@@RevLarry And they are more plentiful and WAY cheaper to build! 😁👍
A friend of mine asked why doesn't Chevy bring back the 350 and I told him they couldn't even if they wanted to because Mercury Marine bought the rights to the original. Same with the 4.3 v6
@@joobn8r They should have never stopped making it! 😁👍
I agree the gen 1 sbc was more reliable than modern engines, but that has little to do with the design of the actual basic engine. The ls engine is far stronger and more reliable than a 350 the only design flaw on the ls was the o ring on the oil pickup tube. Even if they brought back the 350 it would still have to have all the modern electronics, vvt ,afm and run with modern thin oil.
@Robert-w5u4v Yes but the LS is expensive to buy, Expensive to build and there aren't as many of them. And I don't expect them to bring back the 350. But they could have continued making blocks, heads, cranks, rods, pistons, etc and improved on the design while making them stronger and more powerful. It's already been proven by Dart and other manufacturers. You can buy a small block "Chevy" engine from them and get it in much bigger cubic inches and they can make as much power as and LS and are far superior in strength. Chevrolet could have done this and made a killing off a modern, race version of the small block Chevy engine just selling parts. But they would rather produce garbage than a durable, quality product.
What do you mean by garbage and also I am wondering why the sbc design is stronger in the aftermarket other than maybe price per hp
@@Robert-w5u4v Engines made today are engineered to fail. Cheap quality parts, low grade cast iron, even parts made of plastic? WTF? Why would anyone ever think it's ok to make timing chain guides from plastic? Or intake manifolds, valve covers, etc. They design them to fail intentionally so your forced to either spend a ton of money fixing them or go buy another car. Absolute garbage.
The bolt is there to access fuel pump rod....to put a longer bolt to hold the rod for fuel pump install....😮
@@jeanlawson9133 Yes but what happens if you leave it out? 😩
You forgot the 262 SBC , That bolt is used to hold the fuel pump shaft when changing the fuel pump.
@@racerd9669 ya I forgot a couple! 😁👍
350 sbc surely holds the World Records for thrown rods and windowed blocks.. but hey they're all interchangeable
@@KennethGerecke-k8w Who cares when you've got a billion of them! And since there are double, triple, quadruple of them than other engines out there, yes more, of them will break! Duh! 🤣🤣🤣
How about the 283" starting in 1957 and ran up to 1967 (I think).
@@spikewsspe I believe I included that one, but missed a few others! 🤣👍
Great design, tough as an anvil.
@@henrysmith8012 Yes sir they are! Build one right and it'll run for a long time! My 355 in my Chevelle SS is 20 years old and still turns 7500 rpms when I nail it! 😁👍
Yeah, they are good engines, but who is the king !?? 😂😂
@@josecora1917 Depends on how you define "king"! They are definitely the king as far as production numbers and affordability! 👍😁
It holds the fuel pump rod for changing the fuel pump, you use longer bolt to hold rod
They made a 302 Chevy Camaro to
Trans Am wasn’t it?
@@Corvacar Z-28..built for TransAm racing.
Very Interesting 🙂
Used to hold the fuel pump rod in the block while you put in a new fuel pump. If you leave it out oil will come out.
Thanks made my day I feel like a more valuable person now. I’m going to go around and repeat all of this like I’ve known this for years . I’m not going to tell them I’ve only known it for a week . And really I’ve been reading about engines for fifty years . My finances make me use 250 sixes which is another cool motets . In-line six’s army dead yet. 1964 gm ha interesting trans they put behind it called a Muncie 319 it was an electric add on overdrive bolted to the back of a Muncie 318 unsycronized first gear you could in there manually kick it in and out and make the three speed a six speed. Cool thing that you can find . I’ve known that for a week .
Thank you I'm glad you enjoyed it! 😁 Subscribe to my channel for more useless information! 🤣🤣🤣
If gm did the motown blocks and standardize everything a 502 block would be popular.
@@amend5269 Probably so? 🤷
Am I missing something here ? Does any automotive enthusiast Not know the SBC and its history ? Has anyone ever actually said that it’s Not ubiquitous? Seriously?
I know I’m 56 and I used to think younger people didn’t know - but I’ve found out that they Do.
@@jamessharp9790 According to the comments here, apparently a lot of people don't know! 🤣🤣🤣
I’ve never heard of it explained in simple terms like that the drawing with the two circles is what really tied it all together. What I’m wondering is if you could use this same theory in an eight cylinder but a w8 and put it in a motercycle like it was an l4 . The Bugatti W16 is the fastest car for sale in the world at something like 306 miles an hour from the factory. It has a vw engine W16
I don't know, maybe you can. Too bad we can't afford the Bugatti! 😳
Small journals:
265
283
327
Medium journals:
262
263
267
302
305
307
327
350
Large journals:
400
Yep I missed a few! 🤣
The 302 built in 1967 was small journal .
263?????? The 302 came in two journal sizes...
Must be real noisy with that gear drive!
@@garybulwinkle82 Sounds cool as hell! 😁👍
Because they paid huge sums of money to buy the racing organizations, paid magazines to run articles to make them seem more powerful than they were, for instance you would see something on the cover like 300 HP Ford, 350 hp Mopar small block, 800 hp Chevy. Then when you read the articles you will find two naturally aspirated small blocks, the Ford and Mopar, against a blown big block Chevy. When Car Craft held a build off of all the American Big Blocks except the Cadillac, Buick came in first, Mopar small port 440 was next then Chevy. The Chevy got square port heads and still didn’t make the cut. A few months later they took the Chevy, put a bigger cam in it, better intake than the competition etc, and used that to make them sound more powerful, giving the rest of the field no further attention. Thayer also lied,constantly about the horsepower their engines would make claiming more than they actually did.the other brands lied in the racers favor, stating that their engines made less power than they actually did. In the early 80’s Comp Cams came out with their High Energy cam designs. There ad campaign started with the 268 cam in a Chevy 350, then Ford and when they finally put the cam in a small block Mopar, the 360 was the ONLY engine that made one hp per cubic inch with that 268 grind. The others fell way short. Again advertising sold chevys and that worked well for customers that didn’t do their own research.
@@kennethcohagen3539 I don't think that's why Chevy is more popular. Chevy outsold Ford and Dodge for years. Plus the small block Chevy engine is basically the same design for over 30 years with parts Interchange across all the engines, while Ford and Mopar didn't produce as many vehicles, so there are less engines available, and they changed the design throughout the years so there's some issues with parts being interchangeable. Everyone wonders why Mopars are so much more expensive to build even today because lower production means less availability so parts cost more. There were literally millions of small block Chevy engines produced so more companies offered parts for them which translates to more competition and lower prices. That's why they are still one of the most popular engines to build even today, 40 years after they stopped producing the original design.
Say what ever you want... nobody but nobody won more races and took home more trophies then Chevrolet... The most winningest car in the history of NASCAR is the Monte Carlo.,.car craft tested a 66 327 Nova against a66 Dodge Coronet 426 hemi.. both of them came off the showroom floor.. in California.. 7 out of 7 races the Nova beat it.... Like the pros say a good Street. 427 l 88 Corvette.. will bet a good competition 427 Cobra.. any day of the week
@@WagsAutomotivewhen ever a new speed part came out.. it was always available for Chevrolet 1st.. the most popular engine in the whole world... Then the part would follow to the next engine
Inline Six would wipe them all up the whole time, but the Sound of the V8 Produced a bunch of Dummies!!!
The Brazilians are laughing at Drag Racers in the States, that little red Chevy Inline Six that everyone Hated, check out what the Brazilians are doing with it, same head & block!!!
@bubbarub1839 I'd like to see an inline 6 make the power of a small block Chevy - for the SAME money. Never gonna happen! 💯👍
That hole is in line with the fuel pump rod that has oil running down it for lubrication of the rod and fuel pump and oil will drain out of the hole if the bolt is not there. I eat, sleep and breath the SBC.Danny Banford Hyrum UT.
Take that bolt out put a longer one in to hold the fuel pump rod in while replacing the fuil pump.
@@968hbo Exactly! 😁
I would like to see a V8 make 12.000 horse power... There's no displacement for displacement
@@tonysendrick6347 There's plenty of them that can with a blower or twin turbos! 👍😁
You really don't know much about the top tier drag cars, do you? Circa 12k HP is the norm!
Best thing about the LS engine is the cylinder heads. They all flow. Power is always in the heads. It's just an air pump.
@@gordowg1wg145 I think he meant 1200 HP. Obviously a "top tier drag car" has way more HP than a standard V8 engine. 😁👍
@@henrysmith8012 Ya they definitely flow better than the SBC heads, but the SBC heads were designed 40 years ago. I'd hope they figured out how to improve flow on cylinder heads since then. And the new aftermarket SBC heads outflow the LS heads so the SBC can still make as much power as an LS engine with the right upgrades! 😁👍
You forgot about the 302 sbc
@@thewoodsman5261 Ya I forgot a couple of them! 🤣🤣🤣
You need to explain the slight firing order difference, in later years - as GM made a tweak.
Its to hold the fuel pump rod for install the fuel pump it will leak oil if bolt not there
Well, you got almost everything wrong there.
For example, the cylinders paired are 1&6, 8&5, 4&7, 2&3 for their positions in the firing order, each pair 360 degrees apart. NOTE, that's the early firing order, the last of the engines used a 1,8,7,3,6,4,2 firing order, for better breathing balance, IIRC.
Reasons for their popularity was their compact size, light weight, standardised engine mountings, bellhousing bolt pattern, intake and exhaust port positions, interchangability of parts because, with the exception of the 400, they used the same mains, big ends, connecting rod lengths, etc. and were internally balanced, with the most common bore size being 4", which some 283's could be bored a 1/8th to.
All this, with a very long production run, meant not only a LOT of engines availably cheaply from wrecking yards, etc, and parts swapping between OEM options, but it made it possible for the aftermarket to sell 'hot-rod' parts for the engines MUCH cheaper than for the opposition due to economies of scale. There were 'better" engines, but because they were almost custom parts rather than production, they were a LOT more expensive to manufacture.
Same with the BBC!
@@gordowg1wg145 Um, did you actually watch the video? Because in it I literally wrote on the piece of paper showing the cylinders paired EXACTLY the way you say they are! 🤣🤪👍And obviously the fact that the bolt mounting surfaces were all the same helped as well. But the main reason was affordability and availability. This video wasn't about those reasons however. It was about the DESIGN of the engine, not the other things you mention. Oh, and The 283 used different mains as Well. Oh and I just noticed - if the "cylinders were paired 360 degrees apart" they'd be EXACTLY IN THE SAME POSITION because 360 degrees is a FULL CIRCLE! 🤣🤪👍 I think you mean they were 180 degrees apart which is correct. So guess what? YOU got everything wrong! 🤣🤪👍
If the smallblock Chev firing order was so superior why did GM change the firing order in the LS engines to the Ford Cleveland firing order?
Yes both engines have the same firing order, it looks different because Ford and GM number the cylinders differently.
@@Hydrogenblonde Ask GM I have no idea? 🤷
Funny thing about the firing order in a chevy. When Bill Elliot was winning championships, his ford had a chevy firing order. I know this because at the time I had friends that worked at the shop that built the crankshaft, and I often wondered why Ford kept their firing order after learning which was better.
@@tonywoody5696 Good question! 🤷 I guess they wanted to be different?
YOU ARE A LITTLE MISTAKEN , I THINK BILL ELLIOTT ONLY WON ONE CUP CHAMPIONSHIP ? IN THAT ERA HE DID WIN A LOT OF RACES UNTIL GM COULD UPGRADE THEIR CYLINDER HEAD (18 DEGREE..AND SP2.2 ) IF YOU DO SOME CHECKING SOME CHEVROLET CUP ENGINES WERE BUILT WITH A FIRING ORDER CHANGE..
I guess so? 🤷
@@tonywoody5696 you are not really correct about Bill ELLIOTT… He didn’t win championships , i believe he won only one cup championship…Nascar Chevrolet small blocks did try a different firing order with the 18 degree and the SP-2 headed beasts.. it was a 1-7 firing order swap, look it up…different tracks required different set-ups…
@@Hotrodclassic 4-7 swap is the common one...never heard of a 1-7 swap.
One holds oil from leaking
Correct! 😁
amen brother...
The bolt serve for fuel pump push rod ,no bolt big leak! if you want to upgrade your firing order on a sbc first gen install the new camshaft from the ls enginev summit is making this version for this gen 1 it will be 18726543 instead of 18436572, a better contribution less heat and balance, and more power!
Yep that's correct! I haven't heard about that camshaft. That would be an interesting thing to try out! 😁
Dont forget the Chevy 302
@@jmwmotorsporthobbies4498 Ya I forgot a couple of them! 🤣🤣🤣
Leak oil And can hold up fuel pump rod
@@CharlesWilliams-n4o Yep and yep! 😁👍
DZ 302 , you forgot
@@GatesRapes Ya I forgot a, couple! 🤣👍
You forgot the original Z28...
302 !!
Yep! That was a badass engine! And the 262 & the 267! I'm a dork! 🤓
You forgot the 302 & 307. Of course the 302 only came in the '67, '68, and '69 Z28 Camaro's.
🤣🤣🤣 Well I mentioned the 307, but I did forget the 302! That was a badass engine! Sorry 'about that!
@@WagsAutomotive No biggie.......I was just having a little fun with ya. Man, that gear drive is some serious stuff!!!
@@howabouthetruth2157 no kidding! I was totally shocked when I pulled the timing cover off! 😳
That bolt needs to be there to stop it from pukin oil.
@@ironhorse127 You are correct sir! 😁👍
No you forgot the 302
350 one of the best engines ever made.
@@bryontharp5790 That's a big HELL YES! 😁👍
You missed 302
Ya I know. I'm a dork! 🤪
It will leak oil. My 400 did.
Yep! Good thing you caught it! 🤣 It'll blow up your engine if you don't. Good job man!
I have to admit it had me fooled for a day lol.
@@brianhall5430 I did it too a long time ago. I was like "brand new engine, why is it leaking oil"? Then I was like🫣🤪 "I'm a dork"!
horse shoe mounts
Yes but what happens if that bolt is left out?
the sbc was a cheap economy v8 like the windsor ford next to none made any real power compared to the bbc,pontiac v8 buick v8 fe, mle, 385 series ford v8s to build power you would need to toss out everything but the block on the sbc then at 500hp the block is trash so why not start with a motor like the others listed where you could keep the vast majority of the motor and build real power with a mostly stock engine rather than that economy garbage like the sbc or windsor or a train mopar boat ancors? food for thought.
@@mikebose-kf3xu OK I never said the SBC is badder than any other motor, especially if you want to start talking about big block engines. They obviously had more torque and made great power as well! And there are plenty of SBC engines making more than 500 HP as well. I don't care what engine you like just keep the hot rodding spirit alive man! 😁👍
@@WagsAutomotive yes i agree, i'm not knocking the choice its just a reference to the factual data and have seen my share of failures on small v8's and even large ones due to performance mods i try to stay within the design tolerances. the list i gave are engines people can commonly find and budget build not outlandish crap like hemis 429 bosses or 427 sohc engines. i have been involved in a 30 over stroker 454 build that was very streetable and made over 700hp and over 800ftlb with no power adders. [this is pushing the design of a bbc] the other build this impala had before was a 383 sbc that made around 500+ and did not end well [cracked block and other cascading failures] and this is just one example. have a great day
A lot more aftermarket support. In the seventies you could take a sbc and kinda make it run pretty good from go fast parts stores. You couldn't do that with a ford but in reality when they both get the same go fast parts both the Windsor and Cleveland ford will out perform it. For a long time they were substantially cheaper to build but not so much anymore.
@@MikeBurks-il4ko It all depends on the build, car it's going into, transmission, rearend etc. Any engine can outperform any other engine on any given day.
What a pointless video! Most v8s do exactly what your talking about and Chevy was a long way from being the first to do it. That had NOTHING to do with it's popularity vs other v8s. It's not even the best engineered v8, it's 23 degrees valve angle sucks when they build high performance heads they make 18 degree heads and move the valves just like a SB mopar. When they build a high performance sbc another thing they'll do is shaft mount rockers... just like a small block Mopar. They also like to put in longer rods... you guessed it, just like a small block Mopar. When they want really big cubes they run a taller deck just like a small block Mopar. The oil routing around the cam bearings is a nightmare. The only reason it is the most popular is because advertising!
@@DavidPhillips-rs5dq OK so I'm guessing you are an angry MOPAR dude? It's ok bro just keep the hot rodding spirit alive whatever you drive! I've got a couple of badass MOPARS myself! Can you say 440 six pack! 😳😁👍
@WagsAutomotive saying small block Chevy is the best motor because it's most popular is like saying McDonald's had the best hamburger because they're the best selling burger... the SBC is the McDonald's of engines, it is far from the best choice though. It's not just Mopar either ford had stuff with shaft rockers, 460s can easily go over 560 cid, AMC and even study baker had great innovations also. Yeah I'm mostly a Mopar guy but I do like em all.
Not is your running a flat plane crank = chevrolet bros = worked for FORD that`s where they got the ideas ! anyway = your point is = meaningless ! LS engine = is a CLEAN SHEET ENGINE = you do not really know =
@@ronnieboucherthecrystalcraftsm That's fine if you like LS engines. But they'll NEVER have the production numbers of the small block Chevy engine! 👍😁
Rather have a Windsor.
To each his own! I love them! 😁
So you like coolant in your oil lol.
You forgot the 302.
Yep! And the 262 & the 267! I'm a dork! 🤓
@@WagsAutomotive
Yep I forgot about those myself.
302
Yes I forgot that one! I'm a dork! 🤪
🤣🤣🤣 Your all delusional..😂😂😂
@@rebekahfrench5747 OK Einstein whatever you say! 🤣🤣🤣
@WagsAutomotive its all antiquated junk look at the technology from the 1940s all manufacturers have gone backwards not forward..
It's cheaper to build!
@@CharlesKeisler By a long stretch! 🤣👍
Couldn't run fast enough to give me a GM product.
To each his own! I love them! 😁
262 and 267
Damn! You are right! Ok I gotta do it again! I'm a dork! 🤓 Good thing you guys keep me in line!
@@WagsAutomotive I'm a dork just like you. You posted a good video.
@@axleratio 🤣🤣🤣
Sounds like a lot of nonsense.
@@CrazyPetez That's ok I guess you can't appreciate this engine. 😁
People use the Chevy small block, because they have the most aftermarket parts, and they are affordable to rebuild.
Yep. That's what I said! 🤣
You must have edited that part because I didn't hear anything about the aftermarket parts and being cheap. Bolts for fuel pump rod.😂
Yeah and the Cleveland ford will run all over it . The record books don't lie. Ask anyone who remembers the small block Era of pro stock.
Because it was the most popular
The aftermarket supported the popular stuff sooner.