BMW S1000XR or Yamaha Tracer 9 GT? HONEST REVIEW
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- Опубликовано: 17 дек 2021
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An honest review of BMW S 1000 XR and 2021 Yamaha Tracer 9 GT (the newest). This comparison may be surprising but those two motorcycles are matched more closely than many may think and this leads to interesting conclusions. My Instagram page: / thevtold
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02:17 - Engines and performance
09:57 - Handling
13:24 - Suspension and ride quality
14:14 - Sitting comfort
17:20 - Design
22:04 - Technology and equipment
The 2021 BMW S1000XR shown in this video belongs to BMW Inchcape Warsaw, and you can ride it here: warszawa.bmw-inchcape.pl while the Yamaha Tracer 9 GT can be ridden at Yamaha Liberty Motors Warsaw here: libertymotors.yamaha-motor.pl
Background music: "Astral travel" by Astral at cmixter.org, "The Jazz Piano" by bensound.com, "unlucky" at freestockmusic.com, "The lady of vastness" by Dan-O at DanoSongs.com. 
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Excellent video, i’ve been binging your reviews and comparisons!
Thanks and I'm very glad that you enjoy watching them. All the best!
I’ve tested both and i fully agree with your comments. I really loved the s1000xr but for economical and pratical reasons (3/4 city and suburbs -1/4 long drive) i choose the Tracer 9 gt. Great videos 👍🏻✌🏻
I'm glad you like the video and thanks for sharing your view on the matter. All the best!
The motor is funiest on the bmw or on the tracer 9 ?
Which is the most nervous?
@@Gabriel-hl6gs In my opinion, the engine of the XR BMW is craaazzzy :-D But just to have some fun the one of the Tracer is perfect.
I got a s1000xr, and I don't use 40% of the engine. Tracer seems s good option, more rational. 😎👍
Then engine-wise likely Tracer would be fine as well.
I went from a BMW R 1200 RT LC to a Tracer 9 GT . Allthough you cant compere them, I have as much fun with the Tracer. My only issue is the wind protection on the Tracer. I’ve bought a Puig touring screen with a deflector, and this screen is much better than stock. By the way the price of a Tracer 9 GT with taxes in Denmark is 180000 dkr/ 24000Euro🙄.
190 cm, 87 kg and long legs , after swapping to comfort seat I can ride all day long 👍🏻😊.
Thanks for a honest review👍🏻
Wait, 24 thousand Euros for a Tracer?!
@@VToldsMotoShow , yes and same price for the new Honda NT 1100 without DTC and panniers. 🙄
In Greece for a Tracer we pay 14k € and for XR 24k€.....🙄
Yeah 24k thats too much for the tracer gt 😅
Thank you! You are a great thinker, no one understood that this is an essential question!!
Great !
Good job!
(Form Italy)
Thanks and I'm glad that you like it. All the best!
Fajne porównanie. Yamahę już kupiłem bez porównania z bmw i widać za wiele nie straciłem. Dzięki.
Moim zdaniem teraz wybór Tracera nie może być złym wyborem, jeśli szuka się maszyny tego typu.
I teraz jeszcze dochodzi Suzuki gsx-s
1000GX
Thanks for the video.
Is the BMW any hotter than the Tracer GT being that it has a good bit more horsepower? Hotter in stop and go traffic I mean.
I do not recall S 1000 XR getting hot even in very warm weather. No need to worry about this in my opinion.
Always great analysis.Thanks.
I'm glad you liked it - thanks for sharing!
Great video! For me the lower cost of ownership and reliability of the yamaha is a no brainer. I might not get bragging rights that come with more horsepower but I like to ride - not wait on parts or wonder if the latest sensor fail is covered under warranty(im looking at you BMW). Thanks again for your content and honesty!
I'm glad you like the video and would be happy with a Tracer. I believe that many of us would in fact be. S1000XR is amazing too while just like any other bike, it comes also with some sacrifices needed. All the best!
@@VToldsMotoShow Happy new year! keep making great content videos! i like your honesty and sense of humor
Thank you and happy new year to you too!
Hello great video
I have a question for what should I’ll buy
Yamaha tracer 9 gt24 brand new or BMW S 1000 XR 2021?
I would go for the tracer, because you have warranty and lower chances of breaking down
My riding is 99% out of town and 90% with a pillion. I tested a tracer 9gt but there was no contest with my 1st gen s1000xr being better in every way for my needs.
Outside the city probably it is as you say in general - more torque, more stability and better stock wind protection. Also likely more comfortable. Thanks for sharing!
I think the 2023 GT+ will be the way to go once it is out.
Ones you see the display-face on the Tracer... you can't unsee it :)
You just entered the contest for the "comment of the week award", very good one ;)
+1 on choosing the Tracer 9GT over the BMW. I found the Tracer had more than enough power so going for the BMW was pointless. The BMW was horribly expensive & only beats the Tracer with the instrument screen, the mouse wheel & phone connectivity. The Tracer 9GT is FAR cheaper, has unrivalled reliability, better fuel ecconomy & somehow has character while the BMW feels bland & "Meh!"
The version of Tracer that I have is the 9GT so I get the semi active suspension, I found it harsher than the BMW but I adjusted it to suit my height/weight & now it's about the same as the BMW. Both have terrible seats, but the BMWs was worse for me. Tracer 9GT has a Quick Shifter & it is great, better than the BMW which is an expensive option. The Yamaha screen is crap, it is noisy & buffets my helmet, the BMW not so much but the Tracer is so much cheaper a new Vario screen is cheap & easy fixed.
In short the BMW has better specifications but somehow the Tracer 9GT is just a better BIKE that you want to ride.
Thanks for the insights! I'm glad you made your decision and are happy with it - that's the ultimate point, isn't it? I was curious to learn about your experiences and I see that some of the conclusions are generally in line amongst riders - like the Tracer's windscreen and both of their seats issues. The price difference can be astonishing at times. However, we've just learnt that BMW had the best sales year ever in 2021, so perhaps their increasing pricing is in general not an obstacle at all.
b.s. the tracer ergonomics is absolutely horrible and uncompromising.....its a real miss......this is a terrible tourer for the long haul.
LOVE my XR
Cześć, czy planujesz lub miałeś okazję pojeździć R1250 RS? Nie spotkałem go jeszcze na ulicy w Polsce, za to był to dość częsty widok w Szwajcarskich Alpach. Wydaje mi się, że to może być interesujący wybór dla kogoś kto chce mieć spalanie na poziomie Tracera (albo i niższe), topową elektronikę, zorientowanie na szosę (to jest GT nie ADV, ale jeszcze nie kredens jak RT) i przede wszystkim mocny dół (Schaaf kiedyś wjechał na S1000XR z pasażerką na Stelvio i nawet na pierwszym biegu musiał ukręcać manetę do oporu...).
Cześć, kiedyś jeździłem wersją R1200RS i było to coś innego w porównaniu do pozostałych motocykli BMW, ale z mojego punktu widzenia to już sportowy motocykl, tyle że z nie-sportowym silnikiem. Boxer jest super, ale też trzeba lubić jego zachowania, aby móc się odnaleźć.
@@VToldsMotoShow Nie miałem okazji jeździć boxerem, ale śmigałem już po alpach w towarzystwie dużego GSa i nakeda R i charakterystyka tego silnika jest chyba wymarzona pod takie warunki (duża elastyczność, mocny dół). Kilka motocykli miałem okazję objeździć zanim pojawiły się na twoim kanale i generalnie mamy bardzo zbieżne opinie :)
So. I'm wanting either a new Tracer 9 GT, or a 2020 S1000XR. It'll be used for the occasional b road and town riding, around 250 miles motorway every 4 weeks. What's everyone recommendations?
My head says Tracer because of city riding, ego says S1000XR because of being a BMW with 165 horsepower.
Hello , great video
One question
What should I’ll buy
Yamaha tracer 9 gt 24 or BMW S1000 Xr 2021?
Wanted to know the same! For which one would you choose?
Tracer 9 vs f900xr? Not really interested in performance, more focused on comfort, technology and reliability. Your thoughts?
Tough call but if you try Tracer's seat and decide - like me - that it wouldn't work for you and you'd replace it, I think I'd go with Tracer 9 here. On the other hand, BMW has some connectivity possibilities that Tracer doesn't yet.
Pytanie do bardziej zaawansowanych jeźdzców. Czy Tracer 9 nadaje się na pierwsze moto, do ćwiczenia techniki etc? Wiem, że Tracer 7 byłby rozsądniejszym wyborem, ale podobno dla osób powyżej 180 może być już mały a mam 186 i jestem krępej budowy. Czy jednak T9 jest zbyt mocny i agresywny?
Nie widzę żadnych przeszkód pod kątem wyboru jako pierwszy motocykl. Pewne wady ma, ale niezwiązane byciem pierwszym motocyklem. Moim zdaniem to bardzo łagodny i płynnie reagujący motocykl. To 4-cylindrowiec, więc trudno mówić o niespodziewanej agresji jak np. mogłoby to mieć miejsce w przypadku 2-cylindrowców, które potrafią wyskoczyć spod tyłka jak się nieostrożnie ruszy manetką pokonując zwykłe rondo. Warto z Tracerem 9 uważać podczas manewrowania, aby nie przecenić swojego wyczucia motocykla. Mając 186 cm najpierw przeszedłbym się do salonu i wypróbował, czy umiejscowienie podnóżków jest OK, bo są raczej wysoko i siedzi się trochę jak na sportowym motocyklu moim zdaniem. Ja mam 183 cm i miałem pewien kłopot, aby obsługiwać np. tylny hamulec.
@@VToldsMotoShow Are you sure that this bike is 4 cyliden engine? Hmm.....
Is your bmw s1000xr seat comfortable enough for long rides like 1000+kms continuously? Is there any fatigue?
I believe that there is no motorcycle seat that would be comfortable after riding 1000 km. Unless you're doing that in 5 hours at 200 km/h which I doubt. I'd take a car or just make my peace with a thought that my butt, hands, forearms and neck will be sore the next day after such a trip. However, in my case I'd definitely choose the XR's seat over Tracer's for any kind of trip. The longer, the more I'd prefer the XR.
@@VToldsMotoShow thanx buddy
How do you manage the terrible buffering/turbulence in the tracer 9?
That is an issue and I suggest first installing a wind deflector that may be attached to the original windshield. Clearly Yamaha is aware of the problem and instead of fixing it already, they offer you those deflectors as a separate, additional purchase. But you may also find them outside of Yamaha and they may potentially help. If not, then an aftermarket windshield may be another step here.
@@VToldsMotoShow I did that and the change is almost unnoticeable. I will order a bigger screen to see how it works. 😊thanks👌😇
I cut about 3 inches off my 2020 tracer ,,it totally got rid of buffeting but you also got the wind , the stock one didn't do much help with that anyway ,,I hate the look of big tall screens but they work ,,I tried an add on for a trip and it did not help much
Hi! What about the tracer GT from 2018 compared to s1000xr same year ? talking about second hand.
Hi, I wish I could help but I haven't ridden that Tracer from that time.
@@VToldsMotoShow first of all thank you for answering! Some say that Xr gen 1 is much faster and uncontrollable is this true?
How about a comparison between the S1000XR and the KTM Superduke GT?
why bother; yamaha is more reliable, ugly headlight, VERY, but reliable...
I wish I could do that as I'm personally very, very interested in 1290 Super Duke GT and 1290 Super Adventure. The issue is that KTM is not really existing where I live and the only local dealer has been a joke so far. But since I'm becoming determined, I may do a little travel to try some of the KTM motorcycles now in 2022. This would definitely be a super interesting comparison.
@@VToldsMotoShow KTM local dealer is a joke here in Austin TX as well... an alcoholic riding buddy is a mechanic there and showed me a customer's bike that has been sitting there for 4 months after parts had arrived and no one was motivated to work on it...then he had the audacity to insist I buy a 1290 supe Duke R 🤣😂😅
So I bought a 2021 Yamaha MT09SP instead. Now I don't need the damn warranty, the dealer, or their service...I do it all myself 🤟
No center stand and it's chain drive need center stand ktm
Tracer 9GT= 2019+ Mazda MX5 Miata....1000XR= Porshe Cayman S.....both fun as hell one significantly MORE there for the driver but at a lot more buy in btw I own and love my Miata and recently was on nice twisty mountain road with very nice track ready 911 and I had little trouble keeping up with the Porsche ....although the driver DID back off before reaching any crazy speeds on the straight sections plus to be honest was going DOWN the mountain so the horsepower advantage of the heavier 911 was rather negated by gravity and a 700sih pound advantage in lack of mass....I think it would be a similar scenerio to be on the 9gt chasing an XR down that same lovely section of road...I may eventually find out too! Unless I splurge and buy the XR
The analogy sounds interesting, maybe even quite accurate.
I realy like the Tracer 9 GT Plus but at the time I was ready to buy it was still brand new so there were no deals. I bought a 2023 Triumpth Tiger 900 instead which I'm very happy with. If the Tiger got stolen though I might use the insurance money to go try the Tracer.
This is a great review .I'm deciding between the 2 but as someone one has already quoted its looking like a no brainer Yamaha for overall price and equipment.If i get the Yamaha will have change for a s1000r track bike 🤣 Have you done a review on the s1000r?
Interesting thought and sounds like deal ;). I've done a review of the current S1000R indeed and here it is: ruclips.net/video/AYzX6qMeMjs/видео.html
If I was riding a Tracer, I wouldn't have a wandering eye for a BMW, it would be something from Team RED.
And whats a Team RED aside from some sort of cartoon/animation/else? Is it Honda or Ducati?
Comparing apples and pears, XR on the top of its class, the GT also. But they are not in the same class.. If you have the money, go for the XR. If you dont, the GT is a great option.
I still really wouldn't separate them. I agree that on paper they are in different segments, you may actually feel it in terms of their size and in regard to how "serious" they seem, but the number of different areas that they seem pretty well matched in is exactly what surprised me.
I'm curious why you don't talk about maintenance cycles and whatnot when you do reviews or like comparisons. Because the maintenance on the Yamaha is significantly cheaper here in the United States than the BMW. I bought my Yamaha because the maintenance cycles were much longer and also significantly less expensive on top of that if you can get next to or even the same experience for the roads that you are on I would always go with the cheaper long-term route how are parts available to it what the maintenance cycles are etc
Good points. There are two reasons for me not talking about maintenance intervals, how much annual services cost, what they include and how much it costs in addition. The first reason is that this varies a lot market from market, country from country, city from city and finally dealer from dealer, so I'd have to do it with a dealer. Of course the intervals and their contents cannot differ (perhaps except from the oil type itself), but prices to and in the end of the day that's what it's all about. The second reason is that I personally don't care about it much and would pay whatever it requires. If not at a dealer, then at an independent shop. When it comes to motorcycles, I wouldn't care about costs much as I ride for fun. With cars, that would be like 75% not important to 25% important depending on how much I'd be driving annually.
For the similar second reason I don't talk about riding with a passenger - I just don't do it myself, so my point of view would likely be worthless. I hope that this explains it.
But yeah, BMW may be more expensive to service and run in the long term. But then to stay fair we should also calculate fuel consumption and potential reliability records and how much the breakdowns were costing to fix on average. Cheers!
hej Vtold, Cena nowego GT+ to 83k pln, cena testowki XR1000 to 95k pln ... ktorego bys bral gdybys mogl miec tylko jeden motocykl ? :)
Cześć, wyświetliło mi się na stronie Yamahy 80.500 pln brutto, a już byłem gotowy łapać się za głowę ;). Goły S1000XR na stronie BMW zaczyna się od 85.200 pln brutto, więc obawiam się, że przy tych kwotach, to szkoda byłoby nie dołożyć do BMW i mieć 100% osiągów, technologię BMW i znaczek. Zawieszenie tej obecnej generacji też jest naprawdę drogi. Poświęca się w zasadzie tylko lekkość prowadzenia, która w mieście i na krętych drogach jest lepsza w Tracerze 9 GT, więc w GT+ najpewniej też. Ja bym brał XR-a mimo wszystko, ale może tu przemawiać przeze mnie ego :)
@@VToldsMotoShow dzieki wielkie za opinie, juz jestem umowiony na zakup w tym tygodniu :)
Estoi de acuerdo en todo, pero una cosa que no se dice mucho, cual dará menos problemas? Que motor es más fiable? Y pienso que aquí gana yamaha
Likely no one knows which one would be more reliable. Then I'd say it should not matter. If it's not a Ducati, KTM or Harley, no need to worry I think.
nice movie, hard to put a price on reliability, I would probably rate the service technicians slightly higher at BMW than at Yamaha just going on the different times i have to use different technicians to fix something on the bike. BMW are bit more systems and processes minded. So I would probably go with BMW.
Very interesting point - thanks for sharing it! I'd have no idea but I'm sure that it can be a very important point for riders who consider getting either of the bikes. Thanks again for the observation.
Sure was a lot of talk about power production and delivery, but not one mention of which engine mapping settings were used and how they compared. Could be the beemer was on urban and the Tracer on sport? Who knows? No mention of suspension settings either, nor tire profiles/siize re remarks on handling. Also, nobody sport tours in the city. :-) And try a little better to keep you eyes on the road and not the girls like at 9:52, can't say that I blame you. :-)
No, don't worry, I always use the road settings that don't limit the power. In terms of suspensions, my perspective is that in neither of these two I can actually notice a difference between the modes. I personally ride more in the city and 9 out of 10 times I'd choose and adventure bike. Here's why: ruclips.net/video/vwqFWAfDcG4/видео.html. Girls... yeah, I cannot fight that one habit despite its dangers ;). Cheers!
2022 tracer 9GT. No keyless, can't see the screen to small. Why is there a keys on Yamaha, Honda, Suzuki and Kawasaki? That is old technology. They should used key fob. Maybe in the future the tracer 9GT come out with a bigger screen and a key fob.
I get the point and I'm also wondering myself about that. I guess it's about costs of developing it or buying the technology.
That fairing on the yamaha who designed it LEGO the Clocks / dash appalling design , B M W isn't without its faults in my opinion and the unnecessary cost of extras and the maintenance need to own a bank, but the yamaha doesn't do anything for me even with it being much cheaper, I'd look to see if there is other options available on the market ,
I heard Yamaha is going to change butt ugly dash ,,,what the hell were they thinking
Great video! what do you mean? second hand bmw S1000XR or new YAMAHA Tracer GT 9.
I think for 14k you get much more BMW 2018 fully equipt.
Thanks for your great video!
Yeah, I think it could be possible to make such a deal, however I wouldn't do it as a 2018 BMW S1000XR is a different motorcycle suspension-wise and also the design, especially of the front face is different. I personally wouldn't go for that 1st generation XR from 2018. The new model was introduced in 2020 and this one is a much more comfortable motorcycle than the first one. I like its design much more too. I hope that this helps.
I wanted to try both, even though my logical choice was the tracer 9 gt. After the test, the tracer is da best by all means. This is really my pride and joy.
I'm glad you found your preferred bike and enjoy the Tracer. It's a cool bike, really, and fully deserves all the good reviews that it receives. All the best!
Well, if i would have arround 20k, i would not get the xr. I trst rode it, it s a great bike, don't ge me wrong. But i think the ktm 1290 sas 2021 is more fun. So, if i would want a powerful crazy adventure styled bike, i d get that-i allmost did. I am looking to replace my 2019 versys 1000 standard bike, with something else, that is sharper nimbler, more fun. So i am really having a look at the tracer 9,i test rode the previous 2020 model, liked it. So.. Maybe next one 😁
Interesting that you're considering a Tracer coming off of a Versys 1000. I'd guess that they might be quite closely match and would wonder if Tracer 9 could be that much more sharp and fun. KTM should be brutal with that V2 engine.
@@VToldsMotoShow well, the v1000 is q good bike. But a little too heavy, and the engine is to much cut down from what it does on the z1000sx for example. If they would have fitted better brakes and better suspension, and that 140 hp engine, well... That would have been soo interesting. 260 vs 220 kg, ttacer 9 is, so ligj in comparison. Handling is sharper and lighter, overall the engine is more fun, and you get more hp/kg. Yes, v1000 is better in terms of confort, and it goes like a train, inline 4 gives you that looong torque band. But i like triples, initially i was hoping to get a new, tiger 1200. But that is too expensive, compared to prvious gen. It is even more expensive than a gs if you compare the correct specced versions.
And yeeees, v2 ktm is a beast, soo much fun, pull, torque, all is amazing. Except ktm ownership experience, that is a no no for me🙄
I owned a Tracer 900GT until November than I got a S1000XR. It is no issue that BMW is by far much better than the Yamaha on every aspect. It is more expensive, obviously, but money goes quality remains.
Thanks for sharing this. Money buys quality in this case - I agree, and that's also the point in choosing BMW in general.
Not in terms of reliability and maintenance costs though. Yamaha (and other Japanese brands) will always win on that part.
I love my 21 XR. Absolute weapon but will chill out and obey speed limits through small villages and town centres…. But when you see that national speed limit sign…. 🤪😂
in my country ,every corner you will see one tracer and the reason is money of course and potentially all this riders dreamer the xr🤔🤔
By the way i stay to my k1300 r for many reasons😱🏍️
K1300S with the same engine has been one of the first motorcycles ever shown on my channel. That beast makes a huge impression. I also like K1300R like yours with a Batman-style look. Awesome motorcycle. I'd probably keep it too, especially that it's got everything that a modern motorcycle needs, which is ABS and traction control basically. Front light can be upgraded today anyway with a bixenon.
@@VToldsMotoShow to bad bmw stopped this model
Think the series k with all news electronics.......
Happy new year dude😃
Thanks, totally right! All the best in 2022!
How tall are you bro ??
183 cm, sometimes I say 184 cm tall. That’s basically 6’0”.
@@VToldsMotoShow Thanks bro 😃 it's the same like me ,so which one is the highest for you between all the high motorbikes??
It think it would be BMW R1250GS Adventure and then F850GS Adventure - they've got their seats at the largest height and so are the tallest in this case :)
@@VToldsMotoShow thanks bro
I bought Tracer 9gt instead of the XR last June and 5k miles later almost all mountain roads I have really enjoyed it BUT as we have been rained in for days I started thinking again about the mighty XR lusting for that power and great brakes ...I even shopped and found a nice 2021 close by with everything I like at a great price ....the only hesitations are number one what to do with my like new Tracer? But secondly I worry the XR will be nimble enough because already I sometimes wish for something more nimble than the Tracer! Very frustrating when you cant get everything in one motorcycle lol ...Maybe I will just keep the Tracer and add an XSR900 for when I want to really tear up the canyons? Or else maybe add a Ducati 950sp hypermotard? Then it would make sense to have 2 bikes as opposed to the Tracer and XR with really would not make sense ...OR sell the Tracer buy the 950sp for canyons and the XR for everything else??
I do feel your thoughts. There may be a compromise if you'd be ready to still sacrifice a bit of that high end power of S1000XR. Having a nimble bike for mountain roads that still can give you a solid punch makes me say the name of BMW R1250GS. I'm not kidding - it feels like Tracer 9 in the corners while being more stable and comfortable at speeds. And it's more powerful with plenty of torque at any range (here it beats S1000XR too). Maybe this would be the right solution?
Hi! My choice is Yamaha :) Adam :)
Didn't change your mind yet, Adam? ;)
S1000xr feels very heavy compared to 9GT
I thinks so - to me it does feel considerably more heavy than the 9GT, even though it really is not much heavier in terms of its mass.
Can we just get a tracer 10!? Hehe
I'm looking for what Yamaha comes up with in the next years. They've got that 166 HP engine from MT10, so they could easily build a Tracer 10 and also some taller adventure bike based on that, right?!
For Me Tracer gt
Cannot go wrong with it!
People who can't afford BMW says they are unreliable 😁😁😁
If only we could verify both ;)
I've had both, 4 × gs and 1 tracer 9gt. I had one gs that was very unreliable, but the rest were fine. The tracer gave no problems.
The XR is literally miles ahead of the Tracer
BMW S1000XR vs Tracer 9 GT, my take. As a pure bike...Tracer 9GT all the way. Lovely engine, great economy, fantastic reliability, well featured, a lo less expensive. BMW? On paper it looks fantastic, but somehow riding it was definitely "Meh!", lacked soul & didn't engage me like the Tracer did. As a bike, it ticks all the boxes....but at that price it should! Yes, the BMW is very, VERY expensive, not as reliable & when it does break down (which it will!) the servicing costs are just staggering. It beats the Yamaha on re-sale value, but because it's so expensive to begin with even the lower % rate of depreciation means you'll lose about as much as the Yamaha in actual $$s. Where the BMW does beat the Tracer 9 is in technology, almost entirely in the difference between the screen & connectivity...basically the BMW has a screen to be rightly proud of & the Tracer 9 has a screen that looks like Eugene Levy, complete with his famously heavy eyebrows. There's also no connectivity on the Tracer. Both of these points, IMO, as serious flaws & Yamaha needs to put them right in the next version. Other than that I'm Tracer 9GT all the way, not even if the BMW were the same rpice would I change my mind.
I enjoyed reading your feedback - very good view on the matter I think. I'm just wondering whether money-wise BMW is better. I'd guess without checking any used motorcycles offers, that one would lose a lot more on XR in any particular period of time as I don't think it necessarily holds its value extremely well and with a higher initial price, percentage-wise, it loses more every year. That's why on the other hand it may be such a great deal to buy those expensive cars and motorcycles used as they depreciate so much more in real cash. Thanks again for sharing your perspective! All the best!
A bmw s1000xr is €9000 more expensive then a tracer 9gt here.
Shouldn't you compare with MT10? S1000XR is way to strong for MT09. Isn't it?
I'd put the MT10 against BMW S 1000 R, so a single "R" which is a naked bike too. Then they'd match each other in terms of style and purpose more I believe.
Earth is already 'bloody flat' 🤣😆
This is about as useful as comparing a Goldwing to a Grom. Also, the Ducati Multistrada has about the same 0-60 as the s-1000 XR. Also, if you equip the XR with the packages most people get is $26k while you can get the Tracer GT for $14k.
Huh
The only reason I went with the MT09 SP and not the MT10 or Tracer, is the punched in the face one blind eye design! I think it is a HORRIBLE design trend.
For the exact same reason after a test ride on the 2020 S1000XR, I spit on it and told the sales man point blank: "I AM NOT BUYING THIS CRAP" just because of the one headlight look here in the US (oddly in your pictures the S1000XR seems to have both lights on - scratching my head)
Shame on all bikes who continue to do this. I think it is cost cutting decision and I hope for this horrible act, they may lose $millions in sales! Additionally, what is the b.s. about every yamaha equipped with a terrible oem seat, while they always have a comfort seat in the catalog; reeks of miser-vulgarity towards the customer!
My MT09 SP has a couple of defects that make me want to get rid of it; the instrument cluster gear-wheel on the right is terrible cheap-skate design. The front turn signal mount is also terrible design; just sneeze at the damn thing and it pops out of place! Then there is the turn signal switch placement, the non-intuitve placement of high low beam switch. The cheap pathetic fuel gauge which does not show any variation between full and 1/2 tank...smh
I love the way you've described it all. As for the 2020 BMW S1000XR, this model year should've been looking like the one in the video as this is when the second generation was in production already. The dealer was showing you an older motorcycle - the 1st generation likely from 2019. Thanks for sharing your experiences with the bikes and I wish that manufacturers' representatives will see it as I'd like them to respond properly. To me the "one-eye" design would be a deal-breaker too as I'd constantly think about how it bothers me. Irrational decisions are often carried on due to historical reasons or exactly as you said - due to cost-saving. Perhaps it's both reasons for Yamaha here.
Thanks again and all the best. You might be interested to check this current generation S1000XR that looks really nicely. I think it's the best looking bike in the whole segment now and the suspension is so much more comfortable when compared to that first generation, that the bike should suit plenty more riders nowadays. All the best!
The highest compliment we can give to a brand is to spend our hard earned money on not just their product but the highest trim of that product especially when that product commands a premium price to begin with.
The greatest trust I can give to a brand is to not just buy one or two of their high priced products but three of their highest price premium products.
That’s why we voted with our wallet and just purchased my third BMW. A 2022 s1000xr in the highest trim with all the options including carbon fiber bits.
The least respect I can show to a brand is to not consider any product they produced which is why I didn’t bother comparing anything Yamaha makes to the BMW motorcycles we have chosen over the years.
Good for you. Cool story.
These two motorcycles are not comparable to each other
The tracer engine is very good, but the rest of the bike in terms of frame and materials is lenient garbage
The xr for whom he has the money to get it is a diamond in everything
With this I wouldn't fully agree but of course, the BMW is technically from a "premium" segment - whatever that means in motorcycles. I believe it is better built and with better materials but I wouldn't write the Tracer 9 off at all here.
Tracer boring🤮 s1000xr a loot faster and look better🔥🔥🔥
The XR is definitely quicker. I also prefer its look. But I wouldn't necessarily say that the Tracer 9 is boring as it feels very light and makes you want to play with it riding around. Seriously, it's pretty encouraging to ride. That was actually surprising to me but it turns out the bring some excitement. However, in terms of performance - there's not many bikes that could even try to match S1000XR.
@@VToldsMotoShow great review man🔥🔥✊