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@@mysticalkeyblade759 Dude. The "endless hiatus" is a popular fandom joke. It's really not that serious, literally no one is expecting it to come back.
Lol, I just wanted to say that I saw your channel a while back, and thought "Hm, I wonder if she makes Miraculous videos. And if not, I wonder if she'd like it." And well, my wish came true...??🤣🤣 Edit: In the last few days we got info that season 4 was pushed back to 2021 bc of coronavirus, but a special canon to the show where LB and CN go to New York City is coming in a few months. That, strangely enough, will be animated by SAMG which I'm happy about.
Yess, the airing time got moved and will be premiered in about hours. Instagram accounts like @lady_blog_fanpage will be premiering it live. Go check out their story, the countdown is there.
Bra this is a big mes, is lick the ideas were great, the aspectensions were hai, but someune up ther just seed nope and licke that evry person envolvd mest up the righters, the animators,the timing, dang even the creator has a toxic hate to Cloe for some reson This is soch a mess
they can’t even get the production and writing of the show right and now they’re doing a live action film as well?? my god at least do it after the heroes finally revealed themselves 😭😭
Welcome to this crazy fandom! 😂 Fun story: The season 3 finale (Heart Hunter (originally titled Loveater) and Miracle Queen) came out BEFORE Chat Blanc and Felix. We are so lucky that we didn't need those episodes to understand the finale.
In the order I watched them, I watched Heart Hunter and Miracle Queen and then Chat Blanc /and I thought Chat Blanc was supposed to be the finale/ and then I watched Felix and went ????????
Fun fact: the whole show was originally meant for teenagers and young-adults, also would have covered political themes and other mature subjects and topics
However, networks refused to touch it until it was toned down and ultimately made for a younger audience - I kinda think it's pity considering to the fact that we would actually see some mature subjects. It'd be interesting to show problems of nowadays society? Xenophobia, racism...and maybe show how stressful it can be to be a student and superhero at once. I mean, look we've seen how Marinette is "stressed out and broken" at the end of season 3, but it kinda felt...not real for me. I get her "personality" of being the nice and kind girl and also being a simp for Adrien, but well, I dunno, kinda feel like character development doesn't exist (it was kind of her fault as well if she wouldn't stalk Adrien 24/7 and actually confessed to him) So um, yea ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
honestly most kids probably shouldn't watch miraculous anyway lol. yes it's rated for general audiences, but there are so many questionable and very mature moments that could make a kid uncomfortable. like Adrien being in the SHOWER?? with Ladybug in his ROOM?? idkkk, it gets a little too spicy for "general audiences" sometimes. idk why they didn't just rate it 12+ or something. I'm not complaining tho. haha, AnYwAyS
@@RJ_Volt I also agree with that haha. there's just so many things that the writers/producers light-heartedly touch on, but because of the audience, never get looked into. with the obvious amount of diversity in the show, there would be so much more going on in that high school than just typical jealous drama. it's a bit of a shame that they can't really focus on how Adrien is probably a bit depressed and really hurting from his circumstances, especially considering that it would drive the plot forward and into a deeper scheme. idrk how to end this lol... :)
and it probably would have had better wrtign as well. Imagen having a story that makes sense, that covers political and majure themes and gets dark at times...heaven.
My head canon is that Nino's character seems kind of bland, is the only one who we haven't seen the parents, and always has his hair covered (which is a practice in many religions) is because he & his family was originally supposed to represent French Muslims. Therefore, when they had to cut the potentially controversial or political parts Nino was left with very little characterization.
To be honest, my normal Miraculous watching schedule is: - Watch an episode - Forget about it for a year, randomly remember it again and google if a new episode is out
I remember when Miraculous was fairly new (I think) I watched a few episodes, liked it, and forgot about the show. When MLB content started appearing in my YT recommendations and everyone was like "qUeeN bEe" and "cHat BlaNc" and I was like "wtf happened to this show while I was gone?'
for adrien i guess... his eyes automaticly change to a darkish green and lots of boys probably have blond hair.. its kind of, eh? BUT FOR MARRINETTE ITS UTTER BULLCRAP. HER HAIR IS LE SAME HER EYES ARE LE SAME VOICE AND THEY GO TO THE SSAME SCHOOL AND FBVRHJEGFRVHFVH
The reason why Symbiosis is no longer with the show was actually confirmed a few months back. They were very late with episodes and had a lot of errors, so this is why the episode Startrain kept having to be delayed. They just weren’t a good fit for this show.
Ah, thank you! The only reason I could find while researching was that they animated something inappropriate in Startrain. That seemed more like people speculating to me, so I didn't want to include it. That's good to know though!
Toon Ruins You’re welcome! I heard about that too and it was all started by one person who just happened to notice something with Marinette in that episode. I didn’t even notice it until they pointed it out tbh. But yeah, someone who works for Zag actually said on Twitter that that particular thing wasn’t the reason why
It also made sure we know that there is absolutely no redeeming adriens dad. Anything from the gorilla episode that showed he still cared... well fuck that he will use and abuse Adrien in a heartbeat. Really he did not even stop to think about it.
Listen, it's a bunch of kids doing flips in colourful superhero outfits, while not having any working braincells until suddenly a synapsis happens and they have one (1) coherent thought, which usually happens once a season. It's the cartoon equivalent of those horrible sweet cookies, you eat the whole box and then promptly regret being born. That it's a mess in both structure and production is beside the point. We're having fun.
@@fightingmedialounge519 oh, it's a mess alright, but it's not a pleasant mess. Miraculous is "cereal with hot chocolate" mess, Voltron is "what happens in the bathroom after you eat too much cereal with hot chocolate" mess.
@@Sezenian yup, if you want episodes that centers around the romance, i recommend you watch "truth" and "lies" those are 2 episodes told from different prespectives
Fun fact: Thomas Astruc recently announced that the Awakening movie is not canon to the show and will serve as Jeremy Zags reimagining of the MLB story .....WTF is even happening anymore?
What the- HOW???!!! This is so dumb at this point. I mean I gave up on the show as soon as the release dates for mid season 2 kept getting pushed back but wow. The fact that the movie is even a recap blows my mind. We haven’t gotten one bit of actual main story plot since the first episode of s2. The amount of wasted potential
In the main show Adrien is allergic to pigeons. But in the spoilers that we see he somehow isn't. Come on bro. At least keep SOME important impact in the fricking movie! 🤪
[·Vintxge Vibez·] But, Chloe is not going to get a redemption arc unless she stops being selfish and starts to treat people better. Chloe has spent all her life getting what she wants, so I can see why Astruc thought it would be better for chloe to not be fully redeemed by the end of season 3.
But, it is a kids show? If kids enjoy MLB, then why are y’all criticizing his work? You’re not his target audience, so I don’t know why y’all are being so critical over a kids show.
1997 Kedi yeah we know it’s a kids show but we just all a bit salty over the fact it could of been so much better with some darker themes and episodes that move the story along not just boring fillers like party crasher xx
The episode order is such a mess and I’m so glad you brought it up. The amount of sheer STRUGGLE I go through to try to watch the show on Netflix while also trying to get the canonical order correct is insane. It should be a given for episodes of a show to be put in the correct order from the start, the audience should not have to jump through hoops to try to figure out the plot line. I mean c’mon is it really that hard for them to put them in the correct order or at LEAST by air date?
I think Thomas Astruc said that the messed up airing order was because of the channels that airs the episodes, they buy the rights to air the episode and then decide when they do it.
Regarding why they kicked off two of their animation teams: Symbiosis was fired due to adding in little inappropriateness with their animation (adding chest jiggle to Marinette, in episodes like Bakerix, and Startrain.) SAMG isn't working on the series because they got too expensive. But they still are working with them on other projects. - If you look closely in some scenes of Startrain you will see a lot of the action I was explaining ^
That wasn't actually the reason, they were let go because they were very late with production, it was confirmed on Twitter that thing wasn't the reason.
This is literally the reason I never watched this show when it first came out, I thought it were one of those baby shows that always had the same plot for every episode.
I slaved through about 10 or 12 episodes then I dropped it cause I thought they cancelled it. I thought it was just one of those projects that they dropped because it didn't gain much popularity or money or anything and it just died. But watching this... what the f***. It's this popular?! It's this ambitious?! Wow.
I was surprised when I first got into it too. The fandom is pretty massive and incredibly dedicated. I recommend getting back into it if you can, there's a lot of plot that is incorporated into Season 3 especially.
@@domino_201 Highly recommend when you go to watch the show - look up the Ladybug Wiki page as it has the production order for the episodes as they are supposed to have been aired as opposed to the airing that we got. It will save you the headache of following the plot and getting lost in the inconsistent episode tones and character whiplash
They need to get more episode out about the backstory of Emily Agreste’s sisters family (Felix’s family) ik they got some juicy drama goin on with Gabriel
I end up reading more fix it fics of miraculous ladybug than watching the show itself I dislike some of the writing choices that have massive effects on the episodes and show (cough chat Blanc ooc hawkmoth cough) but I like the premise of the show and the characters so I keep coming back
This is so valid. I feel like I make AU's and rewrite the characters a lot myself. It has a solid setup, I just feel in terms of execution (in a lot of areas, not all) it really falls flat.
Ofc there will be parts u didnt like but all of it is building up story. Before u criticize watch the the whole show (all seven seasons that will be released) They made season 3 not a favorable season but all of it is building up character devolpment and plot. I figured out what they are probably going to go for in the show and im soooo excited bc the story is going to be good in season 4. Thomas even said that he feel unmotivated due to all the backlash. Yall dont even know what is going to happen or why they include parts yall dont like....
@@simply_micah9780 to create a fix it fanfic I need to see what the show did right and what I felt was subpar or had unrealized potental to create a base, I watched all of seasons 1 and 2 and the episodes that feature the classmates or those we know are getting miraculous however I skipped most of the episode when it want related to them like the entire fight scene in frozer after they got the ice power up since it didn't really have anything to do with marinette or adrien's feelings towards the alternate love interests
In Latin America they didn't put auto-tune into CN's voice, But anyway I hope that in no language will they get to put auto-tune or something like that.
I think Lenni Kim is gonna do the singing bits for cat noir. he did one of the theme songs with another french artist. On his Instagram, he was talking about the recording music for the movie.
It's a shame that some plot choices and production are such a mess. This show has huge potential. The general idea and concept of it is exceptionally unique in my opinion, they just really didn't go about it the right way :/
Marinette its a mess in so many ways its really unfortunate. There’s zero consistency no matter what order you watch the episodes. I have seen better and more realistic writing in fanfics than whatever is going on in those studios. I loved this show so much but its been one step forward and ten steps back with Marinette’s character development
Marinette for example in Gorizilla Gabriel pleaded to Adrien to transform and when he didn’t he freed ladybug to save him. He showed general concern. Then in Chat Blanc he didn’t care, he akumatised Adrien after finding out he’s Chat Noir and showed no concern
Marinette okay but she’s still a psychopath and not normal. She won’t develop because she doesn’t think she did anything wrong. Her flaws have no influence because no one calls her out for them and people still think of her as this perfect persona, so no development for her
Actually, it's perfect, totally perfect, if the reveal would have happened in season 1,season 2 and 3 wouldn't have been created beacuse nobody would watch it! Thomas Astruc said: If there are many to watch then the show will never end! Bruh, this ship is just a special part to it that is making us watch it, We are one with the show, We feel the emotions of any of the characters and we can't get enough of it! If the reveal would happen in season 4 that would be amazing but if not, that's not a problem, but if the reveal was going to happen in season 1 or even 2 that would have been bad and we would get bored!
Three of my biggest questions about the show are What “good purposes” was the moth miraculous supposed to be used for? Because how can you be a good person by enslaving others to get what you want? *And how the heck does someone use that miraculous in secret without having a secret room do you just grab a random butterfly if you don’t have a room full of them.?*
Thomas Astruc said that the real purpuse of the Moth Miraculous is to use the "bad" emotions to good. Like he said: "Somebody being "fearful" of a flood harming their village and hurting people, or somebody being "angry" at an tyrant in power" So basically, the moth bearer can feel and understand those strong emotions, so they can make the wise choice in who they should grant the akuma's power to, u know?
@@hecalledhex i suppose it’s like the fox miraculous. when that was first introduced by lila it was clear it was very easy to use for evil but as alya has shown it can just as easily be used for good, it’s just down to the user’s intent
The show is a big mess, they introduced tons of side love with no interest in following any of them through (using them for character development I guess?) while making every fan who liked the Adrienette pairing lose interest (it's happening quicker and quicker, and as someone who prefers Lukanette and is sick of being bullied, yes bullied, by adrienette fans, it's honestly welcome) I guess what I'm saying is, the story is a train wreck as well as production and releases
I know, right? Why do they do that? And you should see the kind of VILE things they say about Luka, Kagami, and Lila. It’s actually disturbing. I never really shipped Marinette and Adrien together (except for Marichat; which would make the most sense). Mainly because Mari is so creepy w/ her interest in him. Even Chloe is more chilled out than Mari and she’s his childhood best friend. 😂 IDK dude, the show and fandom are both out of whack. 😝😂😂
Oh believe me every ship that has Marinette in it is toxic, cliche and boring. Lukanette and Adrienette shippers should stfu they are so hypocritical and childlish and love to shit on Kagami just because she isnt passiv and simp like Luka
The fandom was a mess from what I remember. Somehow there are four ships for two of the same people, and the fanfiction for the ships were EXTREMELY different. The authors are amazing though
I purely hate that kagami is treated as a villian lukanette or Marichat is probaly the only good ship out there cause in chat blanc it shows adrien is only in love with the mask which isnt a healthy relationship so kagami would be best for him and marinette gives of to much of a non killer yandere that her crush is more of an fangirl obsession for that to be a good ship either and although most of the 4 ships arnt good they do make sense to why they exist
@@mithilahossain8047 I didn't use Google translate, I once looked it up and everywhere there was written : Akuma (Japans : Duivel) and Duivel means Devil. (My phone is in Dutch so...)
Felix being cat noir sounds sooo spicy ! Like imagine a bad guy is being a hero and is going through character development, considering Felix is like a more darker character. Adds so much dimension in my opinion
Yeah but he’s a cliché. Adrien is abused and doesn’t have a mother but still is able to be kind and respectful to his friend. That’s so different and not a cliche and very admirable. Plus felix was trying to rape ladybug in “Felix” so-
Chat Blog cliches aren’t bad, it depends on how you act towards them. I feel that if Felix was chat noir, he would go through a lot more character development and as someone who is watching it, I would be more drawn towards his character. An cliche can be quite amazing, especially if your developing the character frequently. Also if Felix was chat noir they would try to make him a less hatable and I doubt the creators would still make him attempt to violate ladybug.
@@semolinalibra I'm not sure if the they gave Felix the personality that he would have had in the original. Since they changed up a lot of things, I feel as though they had to change Felix's personality altogether.
That's not really what was supposed to happen, originally Adrian was supposed to be mean and cold I did hear about the Felix theory before altho I don't remember if he was supposed to be nice or not but I assume that if Adrian is the "mean guy" then Felix must be the nice one
remember all the fan theories? Gabriel was our first guess but at that point we’d only seen him like 2-3 times so we really had no clue and our only other guesses were dudes in the background
~ watching miraculous for the first time ~ Me: hawkmoth is snazzy *gabriel agreste walks on screen ep 2* Me: Wow... maybe have it be subtle next time guys!?
actually it's really well made ! (it's really just gabriel's character that seems bipolar) ! if only the order of release wasn't mixed up, it wouldn't be that much of a mess in the storyline... 😔
@@alhye8240 Im not putting you down for enjoying the show, I do too for the most part, but the writing in this show is a terrible mess. The character development was thrown out the window in season three, and every episode is way to repetitive. We are at the 3rd season already and it feels like its not even halfway through the first season (plot revelation wise). Not to mention thomas astruc wont even take constructive criticism and just blocks everyone who reviews his show badly.
The worst part is marionette she brothers me so much when she try’s to break into Adrian’s house and when she steals someone’s phone and go through their personal stuff and she thinks all that is okay 🤬
@@fatimajadama1786 yeah i totally agree. They made marinette absolutely crazy, and still claim to call it a female empowering while pinning mari against all the other females in the show, just to get attention from some boy
"A car crash that you can't look away from." You're right, this is a VERY accurate way to describe this series lol. There are things I dislike in the show, the formula can get so tiring that I ignore this series for a while before watching it again, but I still love it anyway.
Then... why do they need to worry about putting a mask on for cosplay? I remember that being the plot of a singular episode. If the suits already prevent anyone from finding out due to confusion, everyone would remark that they just looked similar to the heroes but never attribute them exactly to them.
The fact that episodes are out of order on netflix pisses me off like okay they get released out of order but how you gon put them.out of order on Netflix too smh
I forget what episode it was, but there was one episode worse than it that even I (who didn't care about animation since I prefer story) found it jarring. After that the quality went up again. It's just that one episode quality was so bad that it caught my eyes. Seriously, I forget which one, but it's on S2
i liked the water. Chat blanc was a terrible episode plot wise because it further destroyed gabriel & nat + adrienette is also ruined. Mari gets further and further creepily obsessed with him in general, but for adrien to find out he loves her just because he realizes she's ladybug was ick. and im disappointed that they try to pass this episode off as if this is the reason why they cant know each other's identities, but it was very circumstantial + made gabriel out of character. yes he's terrible but he wouldn't just manipulate his son without some hesitation. and natalie outting adrien immediately when in an earlier episode she basically said she cares for him as her own,,, man, There's a lot of things theyre doing poorly and it makes me sad because there's so much potential.
Seeing as you are pretty new to the fandom, you are spot on. Pun intended. Good luck figuring out the crazy love hexagon now that Luka and Kagami have been added, though I still ship the love square. Also, Lila can marry a dumpster and Chloe can learn her mistakes with tomato child (Nathaniel). DJWIFI is cannon. Marinette is guardian. AND I MISS MASTER FU!
I think master fu is coming back... I seen the front and master fu was there! And u were right lila marry a dumpster but I have a feeling mari gets akuma...
“...I love this show but it makes me want to pull my hair out” It’s kind of scary how much I relate to this Also, I don’t have Netflix so I resorted to watching episodes on RUclips and was lucky enough to stumble upon the origin episodes while trying to find the first episode.
@Iamhelia s you can watch it on Netflix, Disney + (in some countries), the Disneynow Website. You have to hook up your tv provider to watch most of the episodes on Disneynow
The reason why Netflix is messed up is because it was actually aired in America in that order so anyone who was following it had to deal with that too. So, if I were you I’d look up what the wiki says the actual episode order is and watch it that way
I’m new here, but have you ever tried Avatar: The Last Airbender? I know a lot of people have already watched it, but just a suggestion for anyone who hasn’t. It’s a really good cartoon with good development, story, plot, and sequels.
It's the best show because its complexity can be comprehended by both the young and mature audience. You enjoy it when you were a kid and you understand it when you grew up. They don't make excuses like "it's because it's a kid show" because their plot and character development is really well made.
@@robno1033 The quality is not indicative of the price tag. 3D animation is incredibly expensive, so I wouldn't be surprised if this statement was true.
@@ToonRuinsOfficial Right, that does make sense. It's honestly still surprising to think that Miraculous would cost so much. (Hope I don't sound too arrogant through text, I am legitametly surprised considering the show gives so much Saturday morning vibes.)
EXACTLY!! But it’s mostly out of frustration about the fact that they can’t recognize each other when like 2 percent of their faces r covered🤦🏻♀️🤦🏻♀️
Yep!! I can’t believe how messy the show is with the writing & character development. I don’t mind characters getting together in a slow pace but as long it’s build up correctly like Stiles/Lydia from Teen Wolf.
quick update: •There are 3 specials of 52 minutes that have been announced 1.Miraculous New York (coming on September 25th 2020 on Disney Channel USA) 2.Miraculous Shanghai(date is unknown but it's in production) 3.A Halloween special (it's probably canceled and the new special is not yet announced but there is a third special for for sure) •Though SAMG animation studio is suspended, It still has contract and is working on Miraculous New York and Miraculous Shanghai which are mentioned above. •Season 4 is pushed back to early 2021. •miraculous awakening is still on track to release in 2021. •Season 5 is in pre-production.Thomas and team is writing season 5. •A 2 minute special Covid19 episode is released on miraculous ladybug RUclips channel. •Also Jeremy Zag posted a post with thomas saying -"So nice to have Thomas in LA ❤️ we’ve brainstormed a little bit of season 5, a little bit of the movie, the musical, comic books and Marinette travelling the world seeking for the lost kwamis... Get ready for a lot of adventures of your favorite super heroes guys. " • Also, it is confirmed by winny bayday(member of the crew) that marinette's search for lost kwamis(previous point) will be shown in season 5. •Miraculous mangas also are announced and are in production in TOEI Animation. •Also there will be comic books featuring youth of Gabriel Agreste and will be released on platform "bayday". That's all I know about upcoming projects and was accedently missed by you.
I don't even want the movie at this point, I just want the story to continue, more Adrienette, how Mari will take charge as LadyBug and Guardian at the same time. Face reveal.. There's a lot of things still going on in the series so a live action movie is the least thing I expect
@@seansswamp There is images of a new heroine from africa named ladylion and thomas posted a photo of a green shirt guy who is a Brazilian footballer in miraculous check out the wiki
The miraculous struggle of not being paitient enough to wait for english dubbed episodes so you gotta watch the french, portugese or spanish dub (depending on which ever one came first) and just guess what is going on based on the visuals until a kind fan will sub the episode.
Is no One talking about Now marinettes Love for adrien is literally just Obsession Like she could Pass as an yandere in those wattpad fics no One Talks about cause they are too Dark
yeah she has a lot of issues that desperately need to be resolved in season 4. she needs to learn how to have a healthy relationship and friendship before she can move forward in pretty much anything. it's kind of pathetic to see how objectifying and creepy she's gotten with Adrien throughout the seasons. I just really hope they don't end up dating without her having any character development in that area and that type of obsessive relationship being portrayed as normal and healthy.
I don't know if you'll read this comment but I've been in the fandom since 2015 and it's always been a huge mess. As you said, according to Thomas there isn't a chronological order and it doesn't matter how you watch the episodes. For me that's a terrible decision considering every season has 26 episodes and the lack of any continuity makes it impossible to have any character development. Also Netflix is the last place someone should look at when trying to figure out the order. Usually the fandom makes its own list with the correct order according to the production order or just figuring it out themselves. I remember that back in 2016 someone took out of their time to analyze the different dates that were mentioned/shown in the episodes and made a headcanon/fanon list with the order of the episodes. For s1 all I know is that Volpina is the last episode of the season but The Origins is meant to be watched last. The Origins aired in Korean (I think) after the whole season with the exception of Volpina which aired after that in French. Tbh I like the idea of watching the origins last, it feels more impactful after you've gotten to actually know the characters. Volpina aired in March of 2016 so that's like the official end of the season. Then we had to wait till Fall of 2017 for the second season. Now, this is where the mess continues. Every country has its own episode order and release schedule so it doesn't matter if the english dub is announced for let's say October the 20th, the spanish (for example) would get aired two weeks earlier and everyone would watch that in 240p in youtube without any subtitles while some generous fan who speaks the language makes a translation post on tumblr. And that's basically how it works. This happened with the episode Dark Owl and portuguese. I mean sometimes we would get the english dub first or it would get magically leaked, or the french (which happens the most often). But as a whole your option as a fan of MLB is a) Wait till you get a release date, wait for the episode, then see on social media that it's trending 1 month earlier because some random country aired it, go on youtube as fast as possible before the episode gets deleted and enjoy it in 240p quality or b) Wait for the whole season to get released while desperately trying to avoid getting spoiled (you won't be able to engage with the fandom in this case) then look for the correct order online and enjoy the new season. I remember that S3's finale was announced to release in Ukraine before the english dub and before Chat Blanc and Felix had even aired. And we had to watch it live on instagram, in ukrainian. But again, that's just for the fans who want to watch the episodes ASAP and engage with the fandom. Now, for the animation studios, I'm pretty sure SAMG won't work on S4 and S5 because they're working on the movie "Ladybug and Cat Noir Awakening" which is a pity because they should've focused on the main series. (Edit: as a whole the budget is spent on the movie instead of the main series which should be the priority, thank you Zag). Everyone loves SAMG and knows that they're the best. I know that a lot of people don't really care but God the difference is so visible. Chat Blanc actually had a little help from SAMG but you can see the animation isn't that good for example when Adrien calls out Marinette (before transforming into CN in front of her) and she looks at him or when in Glaciator CN offers her his hand and she looks at him - her eyes are just weird. It's pretty obvious. Everything looks stiff, kinda expressionless, weird and unfinished in general. Compare that to episodes like Ladybug or Puppeteer 2 where you can LITERALLY see the floor's reflection in Adrien's eyes, or the Coronavirus Special. Like come on, it's so pretty and fluid and their hair is so detailed, the movement is smooth, they have a variety of expressions (which is important since the show is inspired by anime), everything is so nice for the eye. And for such a popular show it's a pity that it has to look so unprofessional. It also bugs me that the animation is so different between different episodes. The saddest part is that a lot of popular artists are dropping the show because of it. As for the side projects and Jeremy Zag - this man is getting on everyone's nerves. He's constantly starting new projects and dropping them, he's desperarely trying to milk everything he can out of MLB. I mean, have you seen how incredibly expensive the merch is? The Christmas Special was supposed to be 1-hour long with better animation. Well, that didn't happen at all. There were also the Halloween special (supposed to have been released in 2017) and the Shang Hai (i think) one but well. Also the chibi series, the web episodes (no one asked for that), the comics, the live action movie and live action series (NO ONE WANTS THAT AT ALL), the 2D animated series (yeah that was mentioned) and freaking manga. Also a live action musical as in Broadway musical or something?? And like, nobody wants that and we all know it ain't happening. Jeremy had so many other projects like Melody or Pixie Girl which was supposed to air in 2017 and doesn't even have trailer or anything and is probably cancelled at this point. Pure chaos. The only thing that I'm 90% sure would happen is the animated movie because they actually make progress and even recorded some dub but who knows when it'll come out considering we have 2 more seasons and with MLB's schedule the show would end in 2022-2023 unless they speed the process. I still don't get the idea behind making a movie that serves as a musical, non-canon recap featuring the origins and the reveal (aka end of season 5), and not even have Thomas writing or doing any work on it. I don't even want to mention how he spoiled every possible miraculous user (even before s2), new characters, different villains and plot lines, the kwami swap, Marinette gettin the mouse miraculous, Adrien getting the snake one and so much more which ruined the show for a lot of people. Especially in 2017. Not to mention that Thomas never agreed on it but he couldn't do anything. And I mean, imagine if Rebecca Sugar just posted every possible fusion on her instagram, clip of Ruby and Sapphire's wedding on her story, revealed Pink's and Diamond's designs year or two before their appearance and just randomly announced that Rose was Pink Diamond on a Comic Con panel.
This literally sounds like hell on wheels, and I'm so glad I wasn't around while all of this was happening. Thank you for such a detailed comment, though! This show's history literally just gets crazier and crazier the more I discover about it. Here's to hoping that the movie actually gets done; Zag needs to stop announcing stuff that isn't set in stone.
This is exactly the fandom wrapped up. I use instagram live and watch someone stream it without sub titles and then if its not a language I speak I wait until someone translates it. Its a pain in the ass really but I just cant wait for the whole season to ve released
fun fact: in france and italy the episodes go in order including origin stories in america they dont i dont know why, thats how totally spies, winx club and 99 cats went
Fun Fact! Why other civilians cannot tell Marinette is Ladybug, Chat noir is Adrien, vise versa.. is because there's a special magic component that fools a human's eye. How I know this? In the New York Special, the robot girl(sorry i forgot her name..) went to marinette to tell her something and addressed her as Ladybug. Marinette got scared as to how she knew, and the robot girl said something along the lines of this.." Don't worry. Your suit is designed to fool humans, but I'm an AI. Lol. Thankss for tuning in to EstasExplantions- LMBO. Byee! ly!
Probably the “ reason “ why they couldn’t even recognized each other was due to that “ Costume Magic “ or even worse, the “ Instant Identity Recognization Concealer Plot Device “. Power Rangers completely hid their faces better thanks to their fully concealable Power Ranger Costumes!
I think the creator of the show once tweeted that nothing but their masks hide their identity. Which is total BS, Im sticking to my head canon that they have a "glamor" that protects them.
Original Gameteer Because of his language and his personality. She recognized that it was Nino’s. In the episode, he said something along the lines of “No problem dude- uh, I mean (I forgot which character he was talking to).
@@OriginalGameteer wouldnt be surprised if alya actually knows who ladybug and cat noir is but just keeps it secret (like how Hide always knew Kaneki was a ghoul when it's revealed to him in tokyo ghoul)
When I first watched the show, the episode order was different Stormy Weather was the 1st episode, and the origin story wasn’t until episode 22 and 23... only a few episodes before the finale (I watched it on Netflix) so the episode order has been altered ??
From what I've seen the first chapter would be (taking into account the actual order of the series, the timeline and events that happen after other chapters) Origins part 1 and 2, and then Stormy Weather. But in order of chapters the first chapter is Stormy Weather and the 25th and 26th are Origins. (sorry for my bad English, I use translator)
For anyone that wants the best episode order (according to me at least): *=Important episodes S1: *Stoneheart: Origins pt.1 and pt.2 [All the other episodes] *Volpina S2: IGNORE the christmas special, It is considered Ep1, but it doesn't make sense *The Collector Prime Queen Despair Bear *Riposte Befana Robustus Dark Owl Gigantian *Glaciator (Not entirely a plotted episode, just happens to be a fan favorite) *Sapotis Gorizilla Frightengail *Syren Zombizou *Captain Hardrock Frozer *Style Queen/Queen Wasp (Queen's Battle pt.1 & 2) *Malediktator *Reverser *Anansi Sandboy Troublemaker Catalyst/Mayura (Hero's day pt.1 & 2) S3: *Chameleon Ladybug *Backwarder Gamer 2.0 *Weredad Animaestro *Feast Oni-chan *Ikari Gozen Oblivio Silencer *Desperada Stormy Weather 2 *Startrain Puppeteer 2 *Party Crasher Bakerix *Refleckdoll Miraculer *Time Tagger Kwami Buster *Chat Blanc *Felix Chrismaster *Heart Hunter/ Miracle Queen (The Battle of the Miraculous Pt. 1 & 2) If I am reminded, I'll update this for s4.
@@mooncakebythestars I just put the filler episodes in whatever order. Is it important that Gamer 2.0 takes place after desperada? I rlly didn't pay attention for s3
And the design’s nothing unique either! I understand not being able to draw all the spots on the costume in 2d, but it would’ve been so much easier if the design was just changed, maybe by using the spots as an accent instead of putting them all over the outfit.
@@aishutoon4553 IKR I actually hate ladybugs outfit... it's not creative at all I feel like they could have done a simple design with like maybe having the torso black and the arms and legs red and maybe like a ladybug on the chest or something. I'm so confused why the entire project had to change because of something like that
Ok, but when I think about this, ladybugs costume couldn't possibly be the sole reason why they changed the WHOLE animation style! It is SO easy to create a new design for ladybug, but "No, let's just change the animation from 2d to 3d cause why not :)".
@@canoftrash9452 I've never heard of any other reason though. I mean obviously 3d animation is cheaper and easier to do than 2d so maybe they thought what the heck why not change it to 3d to save some money but it seems like from what multiple people have been saying it was basically just because they wanted to keep the costume
@Can of trash & @Yas Z I heard that it was also in order to gain more network traction (?) or something like that. I still wish they stuck with the darker tone and prettier animation style considering how messy the show is now.
THIS is why I watch miraculous online: 1. Search up the correct order 2. Watch in said correct order 3. Laugh at the confused fandom 4. Wait for new season 5. Squeal when new season comes out 6. Repeat
Where do u watch it? Is there season 4 out and in english? Im tired searching for any comment about release of S4 because I’m watching it on Netflix so hella confused
Sooo ummm was master Fue serious when he said he would choose the most kindhearted and gracious people? Like honestly these Miraculouses are getting tossed and given around like candy🤣 P.S Fue didn’t actually say it so don’t at me
This comment is a week late for anyone to see but I’ll say it anyway: I remember when the second half of season 3 first dropped on Netflix that the last two episodes, a two-parter, were out of order. Part 2 came before part 1. And then a few days later Netflix changed it. I hope I’m not the only one who remember this, it was ridiculous, haha.
😂 I remember that too. You'd think they could at least get that right but no. Then again Troublemaker is placed between parts 1 and 2 of The Queens Battle so I guess I shouldn't be too surprised. Though the order there is entirely on Netflix. I get the order is a mess anyway but why can't they try and at least go by production code to the best of there ability.
I heard that SAMG left so they could create the movie, the fandom was pretty sad but I'd prefer a great quality movie. And also get used to this hectic schedule cause it's not gonna become tidy anytime soon
I don't know where this rumor came from but I don't believe SAMG has any part in the movie. However they didn't completely leave the show. The 2 min COVID clip was animated by them and the two 1 hour specials, New York and Shanghai, (feel free to ask me more info if you didn't know about these) will be animated by SAMG!
Well, guess what my friends, more news! Apparently, seasons 4&5 are set to release in 2021 due to the original release date being affected by the Covid-19 pandemic. But...(and this is just from what I've heard so I'm not entirely sure) the Miraculous movie and shit are still being released late this year. Meaning we're getting spoilers for season 5 before it comes out from the movie, because apparently, the movie or musical, or whatever it is has some plot points from season 5. So yeah. crazy.
PLEASE watch the episodes in the order of the french Wikipedia page "list of episodes", it's the best way I know, it's the most logical order to watch it according to the events in the series :)
Lemme tell you, as a fan since before season 2 aired, finding reliable release dates for ANY episode was WILD. Episodes were released out of order, in different countries and different languages and they were often months apart from one another. It's why Netflix has the episodes out of order. If you look it up on the fandom wiki, you can find the production order of the episodes and that's generally reguarded as the correct order. Also, weirdly enough, the origins episodes are actually episodes 25 and 26 of season 1 respectively, though I'd recommend watching them first. Tl;dr don't trust the Netflix order, when season 4 starts airing be prepared to suffer finding an episode date in a language you understand, and watch origins first if you're a newcomer. Otherwise, enjoy the fandom! We have some pretty great artists and authors. Though, I'd stay away from salters because they can get pretty aggressive.
Yeah When I watched it back in 2017, the first episode I watched was Stormy Weather, unlike its current order. However, I find it weird because Volpina is before the origin episodes, but Season 2 episode 1 follows after Volpina.
@@emilylong9474 yup i remember watching stormy weather as the very first episode that introduced me into the series....and kinda shows because there is a lot more effort in the camera angles, lighting and texture than most of the episodes in thre series
Oh god I can relate to your struggle so much. I've been a fan of the show since before season one was even finished, and I remember the amount of inconsistent release dates for episodes.
Just a heads up, the episodes being mixed up is actually big fault to netflix. If you watch them on disney or look up the general episode order they're mostly correct and logical (except from the "how everything begun" eps) Idk why it's so mixed up tho.
*SU fans waiting through the Big Hiatus:* Happily waiting all on our own as thousands of years go by..... ;w; Also, welcome to the mlb fandom! You don't know how happy I am to see you like this show!! I joined back in 2017, and I admit I watch the show for the vibe rather than the plot, so I tend to enjoy the content regardless on how much sense it makes tbh. Also I agree with you about the lovesquare being so. Damn. FRUSTRATING. But I cope because I think the ship is cute. Ladrien is my favorite one♡
i remember being a fan back in 2016 and they would postpone season 2 so much that it became like a fandom joke that season 2 was unobtainable and you’d only get to it by asking a genie for it or some shit
Adrien: figures out carapase is Nino (Spoiler warning) Also Adrien: couldn't figure out in the New York special that Ladybug is Marinette even after Ladybug telling him she wouldn't be in France during the same time as the class trip and Ladybug appeared on the scene right when Marinette disappeared.
yeahh... even with the magic suits, Adrien should've had SOME speculation about why she would be gone at that SPECIFIC time. I understand that it's movie magic or whatever, and it's normal for them to be oblivious, but in the NY special it was a huge stretch.
Miraculous is a good show, but at the same time it just makes me want to bash my head against the wall. It's not one of my most favourite shows, but it is nice to watch.
Quick note regarding the "hiatus" comment in the start of this video. This was recorded back in January, I just didn't get around to editing it for a few months (because of the collab). I didn't change the intro, because the term "hiatus" still applies. It's an indefinite/permanent hiatus. I've already seen comments about this being spammed, so feel free to tell the person writing the comment to read the pinned comment for clarification.
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Toon Ruins that’s not true. When a show ends, you don’t expect it to come back. There is no more hiatuses. Bad. Bad on your part honestly
@@mysticalkeyblade759 Dude. The "endless hiatus" is a popular fandom joke. It's really not that serious, literally no one is expecting it to come back.
Lol, I just wanted to say that I saw your channel a while back, and thought "Hm, I wonder if she makes Miraculous videos. And if not, I wonder if she'd like it." And well, my wish came true...??🤣🤣
Edit: In the last few days we got info that season 4 was pushed back to 2021 bc of coronavirus, but a special canon to the show where LB and CN go to New York City is coming in a few months. That, strangely enough, will be animated by SAMG which I'm happy about.
Toon Ruins I take lots of things seriously. My autism works differently than yours
Sam g is not working on the show because it’s working on the miraculous MOVIE
the long-time fans don’t know what’s going on either 👁👄👁
HAHAHA SAME
*evil "Imma-akumatize-Mr.Pigeon-1000-times" -Hawkmoth laugh*
It’s been 5 years....and we STILL AREN’T GETTING ANYWHERE
@@blddyvel1506 this is why sometimes I wish it was the original anime idea instead. At least with lots of Animes the storyline makes sense
Fr tho especially s3 it was released in such a weird order
Miraculous is the only show that can make Steven Universe's airing seem tidy
Lmao I love Steven universe tbh a lot...
Adventure time seasons 6-10 would beg to differ.
plus the fact that Steven Universe aired the episodes IN ORDER
@@isabellacaliendo1857 Oo you're right
Isabella Caliendo that is true.....
So, apparently the release date for Season 4 was moved to the Summer or Fall of 2021 but, they will be airing a 52 minute episode this Friday-
Is it the special new york episode?
Yess, the airing time got moved and will be premiered in about hours. Instagram accounts like @lady_blog_fanpage will be premiering it live. Go check out their story, the countdown is there.
@@CassandraGachaPlayz ah okay, thanks!
least this hiatus has a good excuse given what's going on.
i thought it was early 2021 or spring 2021?
'' I love the show, but man sometimes it make me wanna pull my hair out"
I feel you😑
Me too🤦🏻♀️🤦🏻♀️
Mee too😭
Me too i get you
the second hand embarrassment i get from some of those scenes makes me cover my face with a pillow, mute my tv and scream
Bra this is a big mes, is lick the ideas were great, the aspectensions were hai, but someune up ther just seed nope and licke that evry person envolvd mest up the righters, the animators,the timing, dang even the creator has a toxic hate to Cloe for some reson
This is soch a mess
Welcome to the fandom we don't get it either
constantly confused
literally everytime i watch it, im always:
*critique here, critique there
idk what im doing or whats going on anymore lol
they can’t even get the production and writing of the show right and now they’re doing a live action film as well?? my god at least do it after the heroes finally revealed themselves 😭😭
this show is confusing but good
Yep
People outside of the fandom: This show is so confusing, like what's happening with that love triangle and stuff
Fandom: * sigh* we don't know either
Love square actually, but if we are including Luka and Kagami then a hexagon maybe...? Well nvm Ig.
my brain is melting
It like the Homestuck fandom
Simple, love is confusing
@@Edits-fi2kl love hexagon I- why is this happening
Welcome to this crazy fandom! 😂
Fun story: The season 3 finale (Heart Hunter (originally titled Loveater) and Miracle Queen) came out BEFORE Chat Blanc and Felix. We are so lucky that we didn't need those episodes to understand the finale.
Yep!😄😂
OH MY GOSH HII
@legga_ 9798 SAME! i was so confused and im like "did i miss an episode for something?" XDDD
Oh hey, you're that guy 😂
In the order I watched them, I watched Heart Hunter and Miracle Queen and then Chat Blanc /and I thought Chat Blanc was supposed to be the finale/ and then I watched Felix and went ????????
speaking for the fandom: please help it’s been over half a year we need content
Lol I thought that I missed a lot by now....
You can find content in fanfiction, they help.
half a year isn’t that long to go without episodes of a show
IKR
the next season will be up in January 2021
Fun fact: the whole show was originally meant for teenagers and young-adults, also would have covered political themes and other mature subjects and topics
However, networks refused to touch it until it was toned down and ultimately made for a younger audience
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I kinda think it's pity considering to the fact that we would actually see some mature subjects. It'd be interesting to show problems of nowadays society? Xenophobia, racism...and maybe show how stressful it can be to be a student and superhero at once.
I mean, look we've seen how Marinette is "stressed out and broken" at the end of season 3, but it kinda felt...not real for me. I get her "personality" of being the nice and kind girl and also being a simp for Adrien, but well, I dunno, kinda feel like character development doesn't exist (it was kind of her fault as well if she wouldn't stalk Adrien 24/7 and actually confessed to him)
So um, yea ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
honestly most kids probably shouldn't watch miraculous anyway lol. yes it's rated for general audiences, but there are so many questionable and very mature moments that could make a kid uncomfortable. like Adrien being in the SHOWER?? with Ladybug in his ROOM?? idkkk, it gets a little too spicy for "general audiences" sometimes. idk why they didn't just rate it 12+ or something. I'm not complaining tho. haha, AnYwAyS
@@RJ_Volt I also agree with that haha. there's just so many things that the writers/producers light-heartedly touch on, but because of the audience, never get looked into. with the obvious amount of diversity in the show, there would be so much more going on in that high school than just typical jealous drama. it's a bit of a shame that they can't really focus on how Adrien is probably a bit depressed and really hurting from his circumstances, especially considering that it would drive the plot forward and into a deeper scheme.
idrk how to end this lol... :)
and it probably would have had better wrtign as well. Imagen having a story that makes sense, that covers political and majure themes and gets dark at times...heaven.
My head canon is that Nino's character seems kind of bland, is the only one who we haven't seen the parents, and always has his hair covered (which is a practice in many religions) is because he & his family was originally supposed to represent French Muslims. Therefore, when they had to cut the potentially controversial or political parts Nino was left with very little characterization.
To be honest, my normal Miraculous watching schedule is:
- Watch an episode
- Forget about it for a year, randomly remember it again and google if a new episode is out
I thought I was the only one!! Lol
Same
I remember when Miraculous was fairly new (I think) I watched a few episodes, liked it, and forgot about the show. When MLB content started appearing in my YT recommendations and everyone was like "qUeeN bEe" and "cHat BlaNc" and I was like "wtf happened to this show while I was gone?'
Everything Z-Honestly same, lmao
Fr
When Adrian can recognize Nino as Bubbler but not Marinette as Ladybug. -_-
ikr
Ikr
Like how-
HE EVEN KNOWS THAT KAGAMI IS ONICHAN HER WHOLE FACE IS COVERED LIKE BRUH WHY IS ADRIEN SO BLIND-
Sofia And Chcoo IKR
LIKE HOW CANT MARIETTE AND ADRIEN EVEN GET TO EACH OTHER'S IDENTITIES THEY HAVE THE SAME VOICES AND HAIR STYLE LIKE CMON!
UMALAKSHMI MURUGAVEL the mask is magic so you cannot see any connection between them basically
davud dowue thank you but how do they not recognise each other when the masks are off
Bu to be honest the show is directed towards kids so I mean 😆
for adrien i guess... his eyes automaticly change to a darkish green and lots of boys probably have blond hair.. its kind of, eh? BUT FOR MARRINETTE ITS UTTER BULLCRAP. HER HAIR IS LE SAME HER EYES ARE LE SAME VOICE AND THEY GO TO THE SSAME SCHOOL AND FBVRHJEGFRVHFVH
Their personalities kinda change uk
The reason why Symbiosis is no longer with the show was actually confirmed a few months back. They were very late with episodes and had a lot of errors, so this is why the episode Startrain kept having to be delayed. They just weren’t a good fit for this show.
Ah, thank you! The only reason I could find while researching was that they animated something inappropriate in Startrain. That seemed more like people speculating to me, so I didn't want to include it. That's good to know though!
Toon Ruins You’re welcome! I heard about that too and it was all started by one person who just happened to notice something with Marinette in that episode. I didn’t even notice it until they pointed it out tbh. But yeah, someone who works for Zag actually said on Twitter that that particular thing wasn’t the reason why
@@WyomingParmesan wait what was the thing with Marinette then?
@@WyomingParmesan what happened with Marinette??
@@_.B00._ i saw some people talking that it was because they animated her boobs moving or something
The episode 'Cat Blanc' took things right up to 100. I mean, I was super, super surprised by how dark that episode was.
same
I Like Dark Kid Cartoons :,) ....May We have more ...Please?
colaskunky idr
It also made sure we know that there is absolutely no redeeming adriens dad. Anything from the gorilla episode that showed he still cared... well fuck that he will use and abuse Adrien in a heartbeat. Really he did not even stop to think about it.
I ugly cried
The gap between episode's in this show is insane.
it is 😀
Miraculous: *being a hot mess*
Miraculous fans:👏👏👏👏 phenomenal!!
Listen, it's a bunch of kids doing flips in colourful superhero outfits, while not having any working braincells until suddenly a synapsis happens and they have one (1) coherent thought, which usually happens once a season. It's the cartoon equivalent of those horrible sweet cookies, you eat the whole box and then promptly regret being born.
That it's a mess in both structure and production is beside the point. We're having fun.
Miraculous fans: Its beautiful! Encore encore~♡
No, if you want to see hot mess just check out voltron.
@@fightingmedialounge519 oh, it's a mess alright, but it's not a pleasant mess. Miraculous is "cereal with hot chocolate" mess, Voltron is "what happens in the bathroom after you eat too much cereal with hot chocolate" mess.
Yaaaaa😂😂😂😂😂🤣🤣🤣
"Current Steven Universe hiatus".
Hahahahahahahahahahahahahaha
Hahahaha
Hahaha
Haha
H a
Yes. The permanent hiatus.
*FOREVER* hiatus...
The show is over. Hiatuses are over
Rebecca said she’ll come back lol
The romantic complexity is the thing that makes me laugh the most about this show, I think it's so well written despite the irritation
Ikr
It's why we're all here.
Season 4 episode 1 would like to speak with you
@@nobodyofknowhere973 Old Opinion, btw is season 4 even out??
@@Sezenian yup, if you want episodes that centers around the romance, i recommend you watch "truth" and "lies" those are 2 episodes told from different prespectives
Fun fact: Thomas Astruc recently announced that the Awakening movie is not canon to the show and will serve as Jeremy Zags reimagining of the MLB story
.....WTF is even happening anymore?
I don't think Jeremy knows either.
So you're saying this movie won't take place in the same show universe?
What the- HOW???!!! This is so dumb at this point. I mean I gave up on the show as soon as the release dates for mid season 2 kept getting pushed back but wow. The fact that the movie is even a recap blows my mind. We haven’t gotten one bit of actual main story plot since the first episode of s2. The amount of wasted potential
In the main show Adrien is allergic to pigeons. But in the spoilers that we see he somehow isn't. Come on bro. At least keep SOME important impact in the fricking movie! 🤪
Oh come on!
I always love how Astruc's excuse for Miraculous' atrocious writing is that it's a kids' show, while not being aware that SU and Avatar exists.
Kids aren't dumb. They might not mind it if the characters don't change, but they'll still understand it if they do.
[·Vintxge Vibez·] But, Chloe is not going to get a redemption arc unless she stops being selfish and starts to treat people better. Chloe has spent all her life getting what she wants, so I can see why Astruc thought it would be better for chloe to not be fully redeemed by the end of season 3.
But, it is a kids show? If kids enjoy MLB, then why are y’all criticizing his work? You’re not his target audience, so I don’t know why y’all are being so critical over a kids show.
And She-Ra lol, that show's writing AND animation was very well done.
1997 Kedi yeah we know it’s a kids show but we just all a bit salty over the fact it could of been so much better with some darker themes and episodes that move the story along not just boring fillers like party crasher xx
The episode order is such a mess and I’m so glad you brought it up. The amount of sheer STRUGGLE I go through to try to watch the show on Netflix while also trying to get the canonical order correct is insane. It should be a given for episodes of a show to be put in the correct order from the start, the audience should not have to jump through hoops to try to figure out the plot line. I mean c’mon is it really that hard for them to put them in the correct order or at LEAST by air date?
I didnt even know it wasn’t in order...
@@liz-yn6ou same
I think Thomas Astruc said that the messed up airing order was because of the channels that airs the episodes, they buy the rights to air the episode and then decide when they do it.
Hold up, I thought episode 1 was stormy weather-
@@ephemeralclouds it is
On netflix the order is messed up
Regarding why they kicked off two of their animation teams:
Symbiosis was fired due to adding in little inappropriateness with their animation (adding chest jiggle to Marinette, in episodes like Bakerix, and Startrain.) SAMG isn't working on the series because they got too expensive. But they still are working with them on other projects. - If you look closely in some scenes of Startrain you will see a lot of the action I was explaining ^
Wow, never noticed those bits of animation you mentioned till I rewatched Startrain
At first I thought firing them just because of chest jiggle was too harsh but LMAO THEY TRIED TOO HARD ON THE BOOB JIGGLES BRUH WTFJSJXKJX
oh..thats why it looks quite weird
😂 boooobbbss
That wasn't actually the reason, they were let go because they were very late with production, it was confirmed on Twitter that thing wasn't the reason.
Why are they trying to release like a million things at once, like calm down and focus on making the episodes less repetitive
I say same thing
literally like pick up the pace damn
deadass, they need to focus on the actual series and the airing order FIRST
I know, it's like it has no plot :(
This is literally the reason I never watched this show when it first came out, I thought it were one of those baby shows that always had the same plot for every episode.
I could not focus when i saw Mr Pigeon twerking...
Same!
wait where?
@@frdrca8972 around 9:57-10:00
@@drea6583 OMG
AHAHA
I slaved through about 10 or 12 episodes then I dropped it cause I thought they cancelled it. I thought it was just one of those projects that they dropped because it didn't gain much popularity or money or anything and it just died. But watching this... what the f***. It's this popular?! It's this ambitious?! Wow.
I was surprised when I first got into it too. The fandom is pretty massive and incredibly dedicated. I recommend getting back into it if you can, there's a lot of plot that is incorporated into Season 3 especially.
@Toon Ruins I’ll definitely think about it! 👍
@@domino_201 Highly recommend when you go to watch the show - look up the Ladybug Wiki page as it has the production order for the episodes as they are supposed to have been aired as opposed to the airing that we got. It will save you the headache of following the plot and getting lost in the inconsistent episode tones and character whiplash
>Thinks the show is dead.
>Then realizes it’s getting a theme park.
@@michaelkindt3288 The feeling of humiliation it gives you...
Ngl, I feel like MLB is just runned by the fandom now instead of the producers.
lmao this is true
lol yeah, they started getting fandom things and putting it in their episodes.
Almond Milk ᴗ̈ I’m new to the show, do you mind giving me some examples of what they added from the fandom?
@@jamiegomez899 chat blanc, marinette's hair down, almost all of the new superheros (and the identity of them), and nathalie being peacock.
Almond Milk ᴗ̈ They did? That’s so cool, which ideas did they take
They need to get more episode out about the backstory of Emily Agreste’s sisters family (Felix’s family) ik they got some juicy drama goin on with Gabriel
Ikr
yeah I'm pretty sure that's going to tie the whole plot together tbh
I love this show to death, but, MY GOD, the production and ordering are just RIDICULOUS.
ikr! UTTERLY RIDICULOUS!
Yeah and it gets pretty repetitive
Miraculous utterly ridiculous
Google for production codes if you're going to rewatch it or recommend to someone. Production order does make all the sense plot-vise.
Its not their fault you know?
I end up reading more fix it fics of miraculous ladybug than watching the show itself
I dislike some of the writing choices that have massive effects on the episodes and show (cough chat Blanc ooc hawkmoth cough) but I like the premise of the show and the characters so I keep coming back
Samee :0!
This is so valid. I feel like I make AU's and rewrite the characters a lot myself. It has a solid setup, I just feel in terms of execution (in a lot of areas, not all) it really falls flat.
@@ToonRuinsOfficial Exactly right!
Ofc there will be parts u didnt like but all of it is building up story. Before u criticize watch the the whole show (all seven seasons that will be released) They made season 3 not a favorable season but all of it is building up character devolpment and plot. I figured out what they are probably going to go for in the show and im soooo excited bc the story is going to be good in season 4. Thomas even said that he feel unmotivated due to all the backlash. Yall dont even know what is going to happen or why they include parts yall dont like....
@@simply_micah9780 to create a fix it fanfic I need to see what the show did right and what I felt was subpar or had unrealized potental to create a base, I watched all of seasons 1 and 2 and the episodes that feature the classmates or those we know are getting miraculous however I skipped most of the episode when it want related to them like the entire fight scene in frozer after they got the ice power up since it didn't really have anything to do with marinette or adrien's feelings towards the alternate love interests
Please I beg they don’t auto-tune chat-noir when he sings like they did in the Christmas special, gosh that was bad
In Latin America they didn't put auto-tune into CN's voice, But anyway I hope that in no language will they get to put auto-tune or something like that.
I think Lenni Kim is gonna do the singing bits for cat noir. he did one of the theme songs with another french artist. On his Instagram, he was talking about the recording music for the movie.
Me: So what do you guys have in common?
Steven Universe, Miraculous Ladybug, Marvel, DC and Pokemon : *WE LIKE TO CONFUSE OUR FANS*
Hold up, pretty sure pokemon do it in order.
cestalia
Ash in general dosent make sense
Name Name yea true 😂
Pokemon and miraculous are my faves lol
At least they're all consistently inconsistent
It's a shame that some plot choices and production are such a mess. This show has huge potential. The general idea and concept of it is exceptionally unique in my opinion, they just really didn't go about it the right way :/
@Marinette I don't expect things to go like the Fanfics I haven't even read any of the fanfics and even I think it's a mess.
Marinette its a mess in so many ways its really unfortunate. There’s zero consistency no matter what order you watch the episodes. I have seen better and more realistic writing in fanfics than whatever is going on in those studios. I loved this show so much but its been one step forward and ten steps back with Marinette’s character development
Marinette for example in Gorizilla Gabriel pleaded to Adrien to transform and when he didn’t he freed ladybug to save him. He showed general concern. Then in Chat Blanc he didn’t care, he akumatised Adrien after finding out he’s Chat Noir and showed no concern
Marinette okay but she’s still a psychopath and not normal. She won’t develop because she doesn’t think she did anything wrong. Her flaws have no influence because no one calls her out for them and people still think of her as this perfect persona, so no development for her
Actually, it's perfect, totally perfect, if the reveal would have happened in season 1,season 2 and 3 wouldn't have been created beacuse nobody would watch it! Thomas Astruc said: If there are many to watch then the show will never end! Bruh, this ship is just a special part to it that is making us watch it, We are one with the show, We feel the emotions of any of the characters and we can't get enough of it! If the reveal would happen in season 4 that would be amazing but if not, that's not a problem, but if the reveal was going to happen in season 1 or even 2 that would have been bad and we would get bored!
Three of my biggest questions about the show are
What “good purposes” was the moth miraculous supposed to be used for? Because how can you be a good person by enslaving others to get what you want? *And how the heck does someone use that miraculous in secret without having a secret room do you just grab a random butterfly if you don’t have a room full of them.?*
Thomas Astruc said that the real purpuse of the Moth Miraculous is to use the "bad" emotions to good. Like he said: "Somebody being "fearful" of a flood harming their village and hurting people, or somebody being "angry" at an tyrant in power" So basically, the moth bearer can feel and understand those strong emotions, so they can make the wise choice in who they should grant the akuma's power to, u know?
😂😂🤣🤣
i’ve always wondered about the first question. i just can’t think of how it would be used for good
@@hecalledhex i suppose it’s like the fox miraculous. when that was first introduced by lila it was clear it was very easy to use for evil but as alya has shown it can just as easily be used for good, it’s just down to the user’s intent
The show is a big mess, they introduced tons of side love with no interest in following any of them through (using them for character development I guess?) while making every fan who liked the Adrienette pairing lose interest (it's happening quicker and quicker, and as someone who prefers Lukanette and is sick of being bullied, yes bullied, by adrienette fans, it's honestly welcome) I guess what I'm saying is, the story is a train wreck as well as production and releases
I know, right? Why do they do that? And you should see the kind of VILE things they say about Luka, Kagami, and Lila. It’s actually disturbing. I never really shipped Marinette and Adrien together (except for Marichat; which would make the most sense). Mainly because Mari is so creepy w/ her interest in him. Even Chloe is more chilled out than Mari and she’s his childhood best friend. 😂 IDK dude, the show and fandom are both out of whack. 😝😂😂
Oh believe me every ship that has Marinette in it is toxic, cliche and boring. Lukanette and Adrienette shippers should stfu they are so hypocritical and childlish and love to shit on Kagami just because she isnt passiv and simp like Luka
I’m honestly welcome to any of the ships due 1: Marinette being well marinette 2: Adrien being such a idiot and blind to any freaking emotion
The fandom was a mess from what I remember. Somehow there are four ships for two of the same people, and the fanfiction for the ships were EXTREMELY different. The authors are amazing though
I purely hate that kagami is treated as a villian lukanette or Marichat is probaly the only good ship out there cause in chat blanc it shows adrien is only in love with the mask which isnt a healthy relationship so kagami would be best for him and marinette gives of to much of a non killer yandere that her crush is more of an fangirl obsession for that to be a good ship either and although most of the 4 ships arnt good they do make sense to why they exist
Fun fact : "Akuma" is Japanese for "Devil"
I used Google Translate and it said that 'Akuma' in Japanese is 'Evil', still close though.
Mithila Hossain I thought it meant Demon? That’s what I got
The Playlist Queen wait-
@@mithilahossain8047 I didn't use Google translate, I once looked it up and everywhere there was written : Akuma (Japans : Duivel) and Duivel means Devil. (My phone is in Dutch so...)
And demon
The episode when they forget who they are, get together and then forget about the entire episode -_-
lmao
Triggering
Felix being cat noir sounds sooo spicy ! Like imagine a bad guy is being a hero and is going through character development, considering Felix is like a more darker character. Adds so much dimension in my opinion
Yeah but he’s a cliché. Adrien is abused and doesn’t have a mother but still is able to be kind and respectful to his friend. That’s so different and not a cliche and very admirable. Plus felix was trying to rape ladybug in “Felix” so-
Chat Blog cliches aren’t bad, it depends on how you act towards them. I feel that if Felix was chat noir, he would go through a lot more character development and as someone who is watching it, I would be more drawn towards his character. An cliche can be quite amazing, especially if your developing the character frequently. Also if Felix was chat noir they would try to make him a less hatable and I doubt the creators would still make him attempt to violate ladybug.
@@semolinalibra really? How? Why?
@@semolinalibra I'm not sure if the they gave Felix the personality that he would have had in the original. Since they changed up a lot of things, I feel as though they had to change Felix's personality altogether.
That's not really what was supposed to happen, originally Adrian was supposed to be mean and cold I did hear about the Felix theory before altho I don't remember if he was supposed to be nice or not but I assume that if Adrian is the "mean guy" then Felix must be the nice one
"what's going on I'm my house?!"
Wait... Does his mean you KNOW Adrien is miserable? And as a dad you chose not to do anything?
Obsess over his wife and kind of neglected his son.
It's easy to guess 😂
Thats the kind of that he is, i think Adrien is getting emotionally abused?
sтяαωвєяяy_ мıłk
Yep. Nothing like psychological abuse right?
Chat blanc enters the chat lmao
Do y'all remeber when they hadn't revealed who Hawkmoth is? Nostalgia:')
I remember literally going crazy when I realized who it was 😂
remember all the fan theories? Gabriel was our first guess but at that point we’d only seen him like 2-3 times so we really had no clue and our only other guesses were dudes in the background
@@winterfire1376 Honestly I miss the fics were it turned out to be Alix’s father (cuz he was pretty much suspect #2)
~ watching miraculous for the first time ~
Me: hawkmoth is snazzy
*gabriel agreste walks on screen ep 2*
Me: Wow... maybe have it be subtle next time guys!?
@@KarlaDayelin
I was dead set on Gabriel, but he was my favorite back up. and it would make sense with his fascination with history
I used to love this show, but the writing is such a mess its just hard to enjoy any of it anymore
actually it's really well made ! (it's really just gabriel's character that seems bipolar) ! if only the order of release wasn't mixed up, it wouldn't be that much of a mess in the storyline... 😔
Marinette is really triggering me, especially in the later season
@@alhye8240 Im not putting you down for enjoying the show, I do too for the most part, but the writing in this show is a terrible mess. The character development was thrown out the window in season three, and every episode is way to repetitive. We are at the 3rd season already and it feels like its not even halfway through the first season (plot revelation wise). Not to mention thomas astruc wont even take constructive criticism and just blocks everyone who reviews his show badly.
The worst part is marionette she brothers me so much when she try’s to break into Adrian’s house and when she steals someone’s phone and go through their personal stuff and she thinks all that is okay 🤬
@@fatimajadama1786 yeah i totally agree. They made marinette absolutely crazy, and still claim to call it a female empowering while pinning mari against all the other females in the show, just to get attention from some boy
"A car crash that you can't look away from."
You're right, this is a VERY accurate way to describe this series lol.
There are things I dislike in the show, the formula can get so tiring that I ignore this series for a while before watching it again, but I still love it anyway.
In the new York special they explained why they cant recognize each other and it is because their suits have special power that confuses humans
Seems like some random made up on the spot reason because the fandom kept on complaining about how they’re so obviously superheroes
@@sugarcube8830 for real, they should have taught about it, i don't know, from the beginning of the show?? (and explain it better)
But then again there’s also voice recognition they have to deal with
@@poiisedaracknos793 on twitter the creator said that since they dont expect it to be each other like at all their brain doesnt recognize it. yeah idk
Then... why do they need to worry about putting a mask on for cosplay? I remember that being the plot of a singular episode. If the suits already prevent anyone from finding out due to confusion, everyone would remark that they just looked similar to the heroes but never attribute them exactly to them.
what I would give to be a fly on the wall to find out the why's behind all of these production issues. Very informative video!
I know right?
I mean it is CGI
The netflix order is the worst. Plus, s1 doesn't have a real order
If I ever were to rewatch the show I'd honestly probably skip season 1 cause it's pretty boring to rewatxh
WingedBunny seriously? One episode in season one makes more sense than season 3 as a whole
rojadita But all the episodes of season 1 feel like the same plot over and over again just with different villains
WingedBunny At least they made sense, sorry if I come off rude, I really hate season 3 😂
I was si done with netflix after s1
Being a miraculous fan I can clearly understand how my father as a Star Wars fan had felt when the movie order was kind of really messed up
I don't think the Star Wars prequels coming out after the original trilogy is a big of a deal to be honest.
@@qtsvxmc056 look
it’s like poetry
The fact that episodes are out of order on netflix pisses me off like okay they get released out of order but how you gon put them.out of order on Netflix too smh
RIGHT
It's like having an out of order but still understandable deck of cards shuffled and there are cards missing.
Cat Blanc had poor lighting tbh, I think we all liked it because of the plot not the animation
I still don't think it was that bad.
I forget what episode it was, but there was one episode worse than it that even I (who didn't care about animation since I prefer story) found it jarring.
After that the quality went up again. It's just that one episode quality was so bad that it caught my eyes. Seriously, I forget which one, but it's on S2
@@cestalia thats probably backwarder lmao
exactly
i liked the water. Chat blanc was a terrible episode plot wise because it further destroyed gabriel & nat + adrienette is also ruined. Mari gets further and further creepily obsessed with him in general, but for adrien to find out he loves her just because he realizes she's ladybug was ick. and im disappointed that they try to pass this episode off as if this is the reason why they cant know each other's identities, but it was very circumstantial + made gabriel out of character. yes he's terrible but he wouldn't just manipulate his son without some hesitation. and natalie outting adrien immediately when in an earlier episode she basically said she cares for him as her own,,, man, There's a lot of things theyre doing poorly and it makes me sad because there's so much potential.
Seeing as you are pretty new to the fandom, you are spot on. Pun intended. Good luck figuring out the crazy love hexagon now that Luka and Kagami have been added, though I still ship the love square. Also, Lila can marry a dumpster and Chloe can learn her mistakes with tomato child (Nathaniel). DJWIFI is cannon. Marinette is guardian. AND I MISS MASTER FU!
I think master fu is coming back... I seen the front and master fu was there! And u were right lila marry a dumpster but I have a feeling mari gets akuma...
he has to return :(
@Cathleenette wtf..
lmao "tomato child"
Isn't Nathaniel And Marc canon?😕
“...I love this show but it makes me want to pull my hair out”
It’s kind of scary how much I relate to this
Also, I don’t have Netflix so I resorted to watching episodes on RUclips and was lucky enough to stumble upon the origin episodes while trying to find the first episode.
There's websites you can watch MLB on too-
Itz Lia what websites?
Where can we watch the other than youtube any idea ?
@Iamhelia s you can watch it on Netflix, Disney + (in some countries), the Disneynow Website. You have to hook up your tv provider to watch most of the episodes on Disneynow
I know this is off topic but do y'all have friend's to watch it with because I don't and I am sad 😭😭😢
The reason why Netflix is messed up is because it was actually aired in America in that order so anyone who was following it had to deal with that too. So, if I were you I’d look up what the wiki says the actual episode order is and watch it that way
It was out of order in Italy, too.
I wish I would've watched this video and read this comment before watching the whole thing😭
@@suso5782 I feel you. But if you ever feel like a rewatch, it's a good way to make it a bit fresher.
I use a Tumbler's blog as a reference guide to enjoy the show's chronological order.
I’m new here, but have you ever tried Avatar: The Last Airbender? I know a lot of people have already watched it, but just a suggestion for anyone who hasn’t. It’s a really good cartoon with good development, story, plot, and sequels.
its my favorite show other than mlb.
Avatar is THE best show ever created, in my opinion. SO good! 😃
OMG yes
YASS
It's the best show because its complexity can be comprehended by both the young and mature audience. You enjoy it when you were a kid and you understand it when you grew up. They don't make excuses like "it's because it's a kid show" because their plot and character development is really well made.
I heard that this show was the most expensive western animation show ever made
I don't believe. No offense to the show runners, but I wouldn't exactly call the animation great by any means.
@@robno1033 The quality is not indicative of the price tag. 3D animation is incredibly expensive, so I wouldn't be surprised if this statement was true.
Isn't that Moominvalley 2019?
According to the wiki, I think it took $16,873,797 for S2 and S3.
@@ToonRuinsOfficial Right, that does make sense. It's honestly still surprising to think that Miraculous would cost so much. (Hope I don't sound too arrogant through text, I am legitametly surprised considering the show gives so much Saturday morning vibes.)
“This show makes me want to tear my hair out.”
That’s me with Miraculous all the time! All the time
EXACTLY!! But it’s mostly out of frustration about the fact that they can’t recognize each other when like 2 percent of their faces r covered🤦🏻♀️🤦🏻♀️
Yep!! I can’t believe how messy the show is with the writing & character development. I don’t mind characters getting together in a slow pace but as long it’s build up correctly like Stiles/Lydia from Teen Wolf.
@@tasfiahzakir3949 cover 5% of your face wear a costume have almost exact same hairstyle and same voice...
*Unrecognizable*
@@ilovecucumbers15 😆😆😆
12:17
Oh my gosh just hire cosplayers
Y'all suppose to entertain children not traumatize them
This ain’t just a kid show though
I have lost my eyes
Yes. I need an "unsee" button rn
I hate that those *things* exist.
Kayla Leigh it actually is but teens and adults watch it
quick update:
•There are 3 specials of 52 minutes that have been announced
1.Miraculous New York (coming on September 25th 2020 on Disney Channel USA)
2.Miraculous Shanghai(date is unknown but it's in production)
3.A Halloween special (it's probably canceled and the new special is not yet announced but there is a third special for for sure)
•Though SAMG animation studio is suspended, It still has contract and is working on Miraculous New York and Miraculous Shanghai which are mentioned above.
•Season 4 is pushed back to early 2021.
•miraculous awakening is still on track to release in 2021.
•Season 5 is in pre-production.Thomas and team is writing season 5.
•A 2 minute special Covid19 episode is released on miraculous ladybug RUclips channel.
•Also Jeremy Zag posted a post with thomas saying -"So nice to have Thomas in LA ❤️
we’ve brainstormed a little bit of season 5, a little bit of the movie, the musical, comic books and Marinette travelling the world seeking for the lost kwamis... Get ready for a lot of adventures of your favorite super heroes guys. "
• Also, it is confirmed by winny bayday(member of the crew) that marinette's search for lost kwamis(previous point) will be shown in season 5.
•Miraculous mangas also are announced and are in production in TOEI Animation.
•Also there will be comic books featuring youth of Gabriel Agreste and will be released on platform "bayday".
That's all I know about upcoming projects and was accedently missed by you.
That's everything I've heard too. Thank you for organizing it for those that don't know. It makes it easier to follow the new updates.
@@marielanders1218 yeah 👍
Watch all the specials get cut down to 22 minutes like the christmas one did
Just to clarify....there will be a 5th season, right?
@@NoOne-qm6wm its rumoured
“I love this show but man sometimes it makes me want to pull my hair out”
Welcome to the club. Don’t we all?
yeah , me too
Hey who remebers when the Live Action movie was first for 2019, the 2020, then 2021, and now we have no idea??? xD
I remember being so excited for the movie in like 2017/2018 and then in 2019 just forgetting lmao
Pretty sure they just axed it at this point
@@braden9294 they did it's now in place for the awakening animated movie (it'll be better graphics than the show at least)
Its cancelled but theres an animated one in production
I don't even want the movie at this point, I just want the story to continue, more Adrienette, how Mari will take charge as LadyBug and Guardian at the same time. Face reveal.. There's a lot of things still going on in the series so a live action movie is the least thing I expect
“The star shaped hole in my heart” 😢
I’m simply sad that SAMG is leaving, to be honest.
They arent leaving leaving they just not gonna animated episode
They are going to animate 6 episodes for season 4
They will animate all the specials
Shanghai,Brazil,Africa,Japan
And the Awakening movie 🥰
@@rewriter3981 they won’t animate the movie
@@rewriter3981 WAIT, AFRICA, BRAZIL, JAPAN? HUHHH
@@seansswamp There is images of a new heroine from africa named ladylion and thomas posted a photo of a green shirt guy who is a Brazilian footballer in miraculous check out the wiki
The miraculous struggle of not being paitient enough to wait for english dubbed episodes so you gotta watch the french, portugese or spanish dub (depending on which ever one came first)
and just guess what is going on based on the visuals until a kind fan will sub the episode.
The struggle is real!
I must have the patience of a saint, because I always wait for the English Dub no matter how long it takes.
i kinda like the french one more imao
hahaha exactly
Remember when a new episode was only available in Ukrainian for a week?
Dude, that anime version tho...
Reminds me of Sailor Moon mixed with Totally Spies
@@saysike Well, Thomas Astruc worked on Totally Spies, so...
@@jeannehaunted oh cool
@@saysike and I think it was animated by Toei Animation. The studio who did Sailor Moon
@@jeannehaunted wait he did what now-
"Hawkmoth asks for one thing in return that is ladybug's and cat noir's jewel-"
Me: thats two things
Everything about this show is a strange fever dream and a mess.
Truer words have never been spoken.
Granted it's a good fever dream, but a fever dream nonetheless.
To be honest I’d be akumatised every time I’m on my period lmao
Lol
xD I would be akumatised like every day honestly
Rightttttt!
Everyone would've been akumatized anyway it's 2020
@@mdnuruzzaman8767 uhhh 🤔 mood swings (make you stronger when you're mad)
Is no One talking about Now marinettes Love for adrien is literally just Obsession
Like she could Pass as an yandere in those wattpad fics no One Talks about cause they are too Dark
I always thought that she is literally just a fangirl. I dont know why the fans hype that up so much.
yeah she has a lot of issues that desperately need to be resolved in season 4. she needs to learn how to have a healthy relationship and friendship before she can move forward in pretty much anything. it's kind of pathetic to see how objectifying and creepy she's gotten with Adrien throughout the seasons. I just really hope they don't end up dating without her having any character development in that area and that type of obsessive relationship being portrayed as normal and healthy.
I don't know if you'll read this comment but I've been in the fandom since 2015 and it's always been a huge mess. As you said, according to Thomas there isn't a chronological order and it doesn't matter how you watch the episodes. For me that's a terrible decision considering every season has 26 episodes and the lack of any continuity makes it impossible to have any character development. Also Netflix is the last place someone should look at when trying to figure out the order.
Usually the fandom makes its own list with the correct order according to the production order or just figuring it out themselves. I remember that back in 2016 someone took out of their time to analyze the different dates that were mentioned/shown in the episodes and made a headcanon/fanon list with the order of the episodes.
For s1 all I know is that Volpina is the last episode of the season but The Origins is meant to be watched last. The Origins aired in Korean (I think) after the whole season with the exception of Volpina which aired after that in French. Tbh I like the idea of watching the origins last, it feels more impactful after you've gotten to actually know the characters.
Volpina aired in March of 2016 so that's like the official end of the season. Then we had to wait till Fall of 2017 for the second season. Now, this is where the mess continues. Every country has its own episode order and release schedule so it doesn't matter if the english dub is announced for let's say October the 20th, the spanish (for example) would get aired two weeks earlier and everyone would watch that in 240p in youtube without any subtitles while some generous fan who speaks the language makes a translation post on tumblr. And that's basically how it works. This happened with the episode Dark Owl and portuguese.
I mean sometimes we would get the english dub first or it would get magically leaked, or the french (which happens the most often). But as a whole your option as a fan of MLB is a) Wait till you get a release date, wait for the episode, then see on social media that it's trending 1 month earlier because some random country aired it, go on youtube as fast as possible before the episode gets deleted and enjoy it in 240p quality or b) Wait for the whole season to get released while desperately trying to avoid getting spoiled (you won't be able to engage with the fandom in this case) then look for the correct order online and enjoy the new season.
I remember that S3's finale was announced to release in Ukraine before the english dub and before Chat Blanc and Felix had even aired. And we had to watch it live on instagram, in ukrainian. But again, that's just for the fans who want to watch the episodes ASAP and engage with the fandom.
Now, for the animation studios, I'm pretty sure SAMG won't work on S4 and S5 because they're working on the movie "Ladybug and Cat Noir Awakening" which is a pity because they should've focused on the main series. (Edit: as a whole the budget is spent on the movie instead of the main series which should be the priority, thank you Zag). Everyone loves SAMG and knows that they're the best. I know that a lot of people don't really care but God the difference is so visible. Chat Blanc actually had a little help from SAMG but you can see the animation isn't that good for example when Adrien calls out Marinette (before transforming into CN in front of her) and she looks at him or when in Glaciator CN offers her his hand and she looks at him - her eyes are just weird. It's pretty obvious. Everything looks stiff, kinda expressionless, weird and unfinished in general. Compare that to episodes like Ladybug or Puppeteer 2 where you can LITERALLY see the floor's reflection in Adrien's eyes, or the Coronavirus Special. Like come on, it's so pretty and fluid and their hair is so detailed, the movement is smooth, they have a variety of expressions (which is important since the show is inspired by anime), everything is so nice for the eye. And for such a popular show it's a pity that it has to look so unprofessional. It also bugs me that the animation is so different between different episodes. The saddest part is that a lot of popular artists are dropping the show because of it.
As for the side projects and Jeremy Zag - this man is getting on everyone's nerves. He's constantly starting new projects and dropping them, he's desperarely trying to milk everything he can out of MLB. I mean, have you seen how incredibly expensive the merch is? The Christmas Special was supposed to be 1-hour long with better animation. Well, that didn't happen at all. There were also the Halloween special (supposed to have been released in 2017) and the Shang Hai (i think) one but well. Also the chibi series, the web episodes (no one asked for that), the comics, the live action movie and live action series (NO ONE WANTS THAT AT ALL), the 2D animated series (yeah that was mentioned) and freaking manga. Also a live action musical as in Broadway musical or something?? And like, nobody wants that and we all know it ain't happening. Jeremy had so many other projects like Melody or Pixie Girl which was supposed to air in 2017 and doesn't even have trailer or anything and is probably cancelled at this point. Pure chaos. The only thing that I'm 90% sure would happen is the animated movie because they actually make progress and even recorded some dub but who knows when it'll come out considering we have 2 more seasons and with MLB's schedule the show would end in 2022-2023 unless they speed the process. I still don't get the idea behind making a movie that serves as a musical, non-canon recap featuring the origins and the reveal (aka end of season 5), and not even have Thomas writing or doing any work on it.
I don't even want to mention how he spoiled every possible miraculous user (even before s2), new characters, different villains and plot lines, the kwami swap, Marinette gettin the mouse miraculous, Adrien getting the snake one and so much more which ruined the show for a lot of people. Especially in 2017. Not to mention that Thomas never agreed on it but he couldn't do anything. And I mean, imagine if Rebecca Sugar just posted every possible fusion on her instagram, clip of Ruby and Sapphire's wedding on her story, revealed Pink's and Diamond's designs year or two before their appearance and just randomly announced that Rose was Pink Diamond on a Comic Con panel.
This literally sounds like hell on wheels, and I'm so glad I wasn't around while all of this was happening. Thank you for such a detailed comment, though! This show's history literally just gets crazier and crazier the more I discover about it. Here's to hoping that the movie actually gets done; Zag needs to stop announcing stuff that isn't set in stone.
Missed opportunity to say “Thank you for coming to my TED talk” smh lol
Wow, that Rebecca Sugar analogy was really good. What is Zag even thinking?
This is exactly the fandom wrapped up. I use instagram live and watch someone stream it without sub titles and then if its not a language I speak I wait until someone translates it. Its a pain in the ass really but I just cant wait for the whole season to ve released
Dry too much dident read
fun fact: in france and italy the episodes go in order including origin stories in america they dont i dont know why, thats how totally spies, winx club and 99 cats went
They don’t in England as well 😞
Go on the wiki they put the episodes in order
Fun Fact! Why other civilians cannot tell Marinette is Ladybug, Chat noir is Adrien, vise versa.. is because there's a special magic component that fools a human's eye. How I know this? In the New York Special, the robot girl(sorry i forgot her name..) went to marinette to tell her something and addressed her as Ladybug. Marinette got scared as to how she knew, and the robot girl said something along the lines of this.." Don't worry. Your suit is designed to fool humans, but I'm an AI. Lol. Thankss for tuning in to EstasExplantions- LMBO. Byee! ly!
Miraculous is a mess, but I can't leave! We need help...
Yes.
Yep , I left tho I’m just watching this cuz I’m bored
Stockholm syndrome 😔
I don’t watch this show but I feel a little bad lol
Mess with you but good with me
Probably the “ reason “ why they couldn’t even recognized each other was due to that “ Costume Magic “ or even worse, the “ Instant Identity Recognization Concealer Plot Device “. Power Rangers completely hid their faces better thanks to their fully concealable Power Ranger Costumes!
I think the creator of the show once tweeted that nothing but their masks hide their identity. Which is total BS, Im sticking to my head canon that they have a "glamor" that protects them.
Lol yeah probably or maybe people are blind lol
Didnt Alya figure out that Carapace was Nino on her own?
Original Gameteer Because of his language and his personality. She recognized that it was Nino’s. In the episode, he said something along the lines of “No problem dude- uh, I mean (I forgot which character he was talking to).
@@OriginalGameteer wouldnt be surprised if alya actually knows who ladybug and cat noir is but just keeps it secret (like how Hide always knew Kaneki was a ghoul when it's revealed to him in tokyo ghoul)
When I first watched the show, the episode order was different Stormy Weather was the 1st episode, and the origin story wasn’t until episode 22 and 23... only a few episodes before the finale (I watched it on Netflix) so the episode order has been altered ??
ariher same. For mine, I watched stormy weather as the first ep...
From what I've seen the first chapter would be (taking into account the actual order of the series, the timeline and events that happen after other chapters) Origins part 1 and 2, and then Stormy Weather. But in order of chapters the first chapter is Stormy Weather and the 25th and 26th are Origins. (sorry for my bad English, I use translator)
The order of episodes are wrong on netflix I watched it in youtube first and watched the origins first before starting season 1
On my Netflix it says Bubbler is the first episode
I searched up the order of the show and just went to there, so stormy weather was my first one too
For anyone that wants the best episode order (according to me at least):
*=Important episodes
S1:
*Stoneheart: Origins pt.1 and pt.2
[All the other episodes]
*Volpina
S2:
IGNORE the christmas special, It is considered Ep1, but it doesn't make sense
*The Collector
Prime Queen
Despair Bear
*Riposte
Befana
Robustus
Dark Owl
Gigantian
*Glaciator (Not entirely a plotted episode, just happens to be a fan favorite)
*Sapotis
Gorizilla
Frightengail
*Syren
Zombizou
*Captain Hardrock
Frozer
*Style Queen/Queen Wasp (Queen's Battle pt.1 & 2)
*Malediktator
*Reverser
*Anansi
Sandboy
Troublemaker
Catalyst/Mayura (Hero's day pt.1 & 2)
S3:
*Chameleon
Ladybug
*Backwarder
Gamer 2.0
*Weredad
Animaestro
*Feast
Oni-chan
*Ikari Gozen
Oblivio
Silencer
*Desperada
Stormy Weather 2
*Startrain
Puppeteer 2
*Party Crasher
Bakerix
*Refleckdoll
Miraculer
*Time Tagger
Kwami Buster
*Chat Blanc
*Felix
Chrismaster
*Heart Hunter/ Miracle Queen (The Battle of the Miraculous Pt. 1 & 2)
If I am reminded, I'll update this for s4.
@@mooncakebythestars I just put the filler episodes in whatever order. Is it important that Gamer 2.0 takes place after desperada? I rlly didn't pay attention for s3
The order on Netflix is so f*cked up bro
TYSM
@@mixafx exactly TwT
@Marinette sorry I'll fix it
I never understood why they didnt just change ladybugs outfit like they're so attached to that design that they changed the whole animation style T-T
And the design’s nothing unique either! I understand not being able to draw all the spots on the costume in 2d, but it would’ve been so much easier if the design was just changed, maybe by using the spots as an accent instead of putting them all over the outfit.
@@aishutoon4553 IKR I actually hate ladybugs outfit... it's not creative at all I feel like they could have done a simple design with like maybe having the torso black and the arms and legs red and maybe like a ladybug on the chest or something. I'm so confused why the entire project had to change because of something like that
Ok, but when I think about this, ladybugs costume couldn't possibly be the sole reason why they changed the WHOLE animation style! It is SO easy to create a new design for ladybug, but "No, let's just change the animation from 2d to 3d cause why not :)".
@@canoftrash9452 I've never heard of any other reason though. I mean obviously 3d animation is cheaper and easier to do than 2d so maybe they thought what the heck why not change it to 3d to save some money but it seems like from what multiple people have been saying it was basically just because they wanted to keep the costume
@Can of trash & @Yas Z I heard that it was also in order to gain more network traction (?) or something like that. I still wish they stuck with the darker tone and prettier animation style considering how messy the show is now.
THIS is why I watch miraculous online:
1. Search up the correct order
2. Watch in said correct order
3. Laugh at the confused fandom
4. Wait for new season
5. Squeal when new season comes out
6. Repeat
Where do u watch it? Is there season 4 out and in english? Im tired searching for any comment about release of S4 because I’m watching it on Netflix so hella confused
I loved miraculous ladybug when it came out but then I fell out of it
Joe Last Name same
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The movie won't be canon because its Jeremy rewriting season 1 without the influence of Thomas
So it’s going to actually be really good, dang okay😳👀 just knowing that brings up my expectations
Jeremy's team was the one who wrote chloe's redemption arc so im gonna give it a chance 😳
exoticeditz really? How do you know?
👀👀👀
Sooo ummm was master Fue serious when he said he would choose the most kindhearted and gracious people? Like honestly these Miraculouses are getting tossed and given around like candy🤣
P.S Fue didn’t actually say it so don’t at me
ok that's weird, Netflix messed up the episodes order. in France, every episode is aired in the right order, and we're not confused.
On Netflix France?
I'm from the US, I can confirm.
The struggle is real with this one!
i end up watching the episodes in french when they first release cuz im too impatient to wait for the dub
i dont speak french
HAH samee
yeah I just always watch them on sketchy youtube channels with English subtitles lol
Same but I hate the English dub
Same.
This comment is a week late for anyone to see but I’ll say it anyway: I remember when the second half of season 3 first dropped on Netflix that the last two episodes, a two-parter, were out of order. Part 2 came before part 1. And then a few days later Netflix changed it. I hope I’m not the only one who remember this, it was ridiculous, haha.
😂 I remember that too. You'd think they could at least get that right but no. Then again Troublemaker is placed between parts 1 and 2 of The Queens Battle so I guess I shouldn't be too surprised. Though the order there is entirely on Netflix. I get the order is a mess anyway but why can't they try and at least go by production code to the best of there ability.
Omg I remember that! It was so fuckin weird 😂
Bruh I remember watching it and being confused
I Remember seeing the finale of the current season and was so confused when i realized I saw part 2 before part 1
I heard that SAMG left so they could create the movie, the fandom was pretty sad but I'd prefer a great quality movie.
And also get used to this hectic schedule cause it's not gonna become tidy anytime soon
I don't know where this rumor came from but I don't believe SAMG has any part in the movie. However they didn't completely leave the show. The 2 min COVID clip was animated by them and the two 1 hour specials, New York and Shanghai, (feel free to ask me more info if you didn't know about these) will be animated by SAMG!
OMG! Is that Sana I spy?
hello fellow miraculous fans its the future in 2021 to what supposedly season 5 comes out but season 4 isn't even out yet.
yeah I'll patiently keep waiting until 2024 when season 5 finally comes out
at this point, i’m only watching this show for the romance. i don’t really care about the superhero act.
Same!!
Same, i mean i like the superhero its just that its the same thing over and over, heck i can even remember hawkmoths lines at this point
Same they need Smth new🥱
Omg why
Gacha 🤢🤮
Well, guess what my friends, more news! Apparently, seasons 4&5 are set to release in 2021 due to the original release date being affected by the Covid-19 pandemic. But...(and this is just from what I've heard so I'm not entirely sure) the Miraculous movie and shit are still being released late this year. Meaning we're getting spoilers for season 5 before it comes out from the movie, because apparently, the movie or musical, or whatever it is has some plot points from season 5.
So yeah. crazy.
Holy shit. 2d ladybug looks so good, like a discount soul eater.
Ikr 😩
Loved it
Bruh Soul Eater was so good I wish
yeah, she kinda does lol. i love soul eater :3
I remember being an 8 year old thinking 2020 was going to be great because of the miraculous movie but boy was I wrong-
You’re only 9 fetus
And the fact that Disney plus now has rights to season 4 💀
IS THAT WHY THIS S4 HELLSCAPE OF A SHOW IS IMPOSSIBE TO FIND ANYWHERE
@@Charlie-xd6vq that’s just because it’s season 4 episodes haven’t officially been released in the usa
@@giobis3528 when are we gonna have them out on Netflix? And where guys (if u have) have found them to watch online?
@@ievazak we find them on youtube usually
@@ievazak it’s not coming out on Netflix
Show: Exsits
China: Here! Have A *Theme Park*
PLEASE watch the episodes in the order of the french Wikipedia page "list of episodes", it's the best way I know, it's the most logical order to watch it according to the events in the series :)
Bro, I thought I was just losing my mind when I watched ‘Party Crasher’, I had absolutely no clue what was happening
Lemme tell you, as a fan since before season 2 aired, finding reliable release dates for ANY episode was WILD. Episodes were released out of order, in different countries and different languages and they were often months apart from one another. It's why Netflix has the episodes out of order. If you look it up on the fandom wiki, you can find the production order of the episodes and that's generally reguarded as the correct order. Also, weirdly enough, the origins episodes are actually episodes 25 and 26 of season 1 respectively, though I'd recommend watching them first. Tl;dr don't trust the Netflix order, when season 4 starts airing be prepared to suffer finding an episode date in a language you understand, and watch origins first if you're a newcomer. Otherwise, enjoy the fandom! We have some pretty great artists and authors. Though, I'd stay away from salters because they can get pretty aggressive.
Yeah When I watched it back in 2017, the first episode I watched was Stormy Weather, unlike its current order. However, I find it weird because Volpina is before the origin episodes, but Season 2 episode 1 follows after Volpina.
@@emilylong9474 yup i remember watching stormy weather as the very first episode that introduced me into the series....and kinda shows because there is a lot more effort in the camera angles, lighting and texture than most of the episodes in thre series
Oh god I can relate to your struggle so much. I've been a fan of the show since before season one was even finished, and I remember the amount of inconsistent release dates for episodes.
Looking to start watching this show, I’ll take your advice to heart. Also what is a salter
Just a heads up, the episodes being mixed up is actually big fault to netflix. If you watch them on disney or look up the general episode order they're mostly correct and logical (except from the "how everything begun" eps)
Idk why it's so mixed up tho.
yeah, it's weird. Netflix has done that with a few other shows, too. I'm not sure why lol
*SU fans waiting through the Big Hiatus:* Happily waiting all on our own as thousands of years go by..... ;w;
Also, welcome to the mlb fandom! You don't know how happy I am to see you like this show!! I joined back in 2017, and I admit I watch the show for the vibe rather than the plot, so I tend to enjoy the content regardless on how much sense it makes tbh. Also I agree with you about the lovesquare being so. Damn. FRUSTRATING. But I cope because I think the ship is cute. Ladrien is my favorite one♡
I mean, that's the build of the show. After they get revealed, the show close to end 😂
"Happily wondering night after night is this how it works am I doing it right" Lol I'm sorry I had too 🤣
Especially the longer than Steven universe hiatuses
i remember being a fan back in 2016 and they would postpone season 2 so much that it became like a fandom joke that season 2 was unobtainable and you’d only get to it by asking a genie for it or some shit
@@lidgraphy7403 Ooooh, flashbacks here. That time was a struggle.
Wasn't around for the hiatus between S1 and S2, but if a whole year wasn't enough to wait for S4, it's Apparently airing early next year now.
@@lidgraphy7403 Do we all remember the more than one year hiatus for "Wanted"💀
@@lidgraphy7403 DON'T remind me oh my god, what was that hiatus even lmao
Adrien: figures out carapase is Nino
(Spoiler warning)
Also Adrien: couldn't figure out in the New York special that Ladybug is Marinette even after Ladybug telling him she wouldn't be in France during the same time as the class trip and Ladybug appeared on the scene right when Marinette disappeared.
yeahh... even with the magic suits, Adrien should've had SOME speculation about why she would be gone at that SPECIFIC time. I understand that it's movie magic or whatever, and it's normal for them to be oblivious, but in the NY special it was a huge stretch.
I like to call the whole romantic subplot “The Love Tumor”. And that was even before Luka and Kagami threw themselves in.
Miraculous is a good show, but at the same time it just makes me want to bash my head against the wall. It's not one of my most favourite shows, but it is nice to watch.
Me: I'm so excited for Miraculous movie
2020 corona:I'm about to end it's whole career
Me: :(
Ladybug/Vaccine: I'm about to come
Me: still waiting