Happy to see you guys still making videos for the ST. There's so many folks buying these used now that it's a whole new round of folks modding their cars and we need content like this to keep things going.
I just bought my ST 3 weeks ago, I'm so thrilled that i found your channel and that it has so much recent and updated info! I'll be getting the eibachs for sure, just a bit affraid cause I'm rollin on 19' 😅
I like the look of the eibachs. Eibachs quality is top notch. I'm currently looking into lowering my car along with other suspension mods. If I don't end up getting coilovers I will definitely go with eibach.
Was about to pick up a set of lowering springs. You guys dropped this video at the perfect time. Thinking about the Eibach springs now more than the others. Fantastic video!!
Love the Pros on my '18 FST with B8s, WL sways and PS4s... makes a exciting daily! Haven't dinged my front end on anything yet parking nose-in... Thought I'd have to back-in everywhere... Nah! Will go B14s after installing the 2860 but until then... Woo-hoo!
Just for looks I would say Whiteline. I did purchase a set of eibach springs, but had to sell them. Because of the aggressive wheel-tire combo I have, I can't lower my car without going widebody (not on my to-do list). Thanks Edge autosport for making informative videos like this, it really helps out the ST and RD community
I'm surprised you didn't review the Mountune or Steeda springs. I was considering Mountune, but ended up getting the Steeda ones. Haven't installed them yet since I just got them, but I've heard good things about them in forums. Mountune comes with a full kit or springs only while steeda sells them separate from the bilseins on their site. Both companies say 1" drop in front and 1.4" for the rear.
I have the full mountune clubsport suspension on my 16 ST2. I've had it on for a little over a year, no complaints. I wish the rear dropped another 1/2". The front drop is almost perfect.
The work and time spend on this videos is awesome. Great video! Good explanation and review on each one. 👍 That being said, are the H&R more comfortable than the Eibach ones?
Thanks for the test! I was surprised by H&R being comfortable,People always say H&R is too firm, Never had issues with H&R. Eibach Linear Front suits my style, I don't like the nose bouncing so much.
H&R (1) looks the best to me then Eibach (2). I like the Eibach package better with the bump stops and protective sleeve. I'd most likely choose H&R overall.
Giveaway! Nice. My Favorite was the Swift Spec-R. I bought them because they were the "hardest" (Front: 4.5 kg/mm, 251 lbs/in Rear: 5.0 kg/mm, 279 lbs/in) springs that I could find. I was very surprised that no one really talks about performance with Focus Springs vs. looks. I don't even think Eibach lists their spring rates. I even checked their website. @13:19 he says 2.2 kg/mm ? that can't be right since stock is harder. Maybe it is really squishy?? Anyway, I got the swift for daily and autocross and they did VERY well for my first year in autocross. Not disappointed at all. They also hold up very well at high speeds over 130mph. Thanks for the video!
Thanks, glad you liked it! We got some conflicting reports on spring rates and drops, that's why we figured we'd try them all out! We thought that sounded soft also, but the design has a lot to do with the feel as well, so perhaps that's by design? Way to get out there and track the car!
I have had the H&R springs on for years now..drop was perfect for the stance, with upgraded rear sway bar (26mm), the car is amazing in the twisties and on track. I got rub with 245/40/18s, swapped in some 255/35/18's and it added a slight gap back, and almost zero rub except for high speed/large dips. But my stance is spot on, car handles great, and its proven itself on the track a few times...still on stock struts. (i have other mods obviously, but just mentioning the springs and rear bar)
@@drzflyest4 what'd you replace them with? I think mine are starting to show a loss in performance, it could be a bushing or something for the springs, but it could also be a strut by the sounds of it..a light 'clunking' over small bumps at low speeds.
@@azmavhockey3 yessir. That's what comes with the complete kit. I got the entire kit with shocks/struts and springs. We have some rough ass roads here now and they're great. Real nice on my back. I've even taken a couple long trips with these and wasn't sore when I stopped and got out at a stop like I was with stock beating me around.
Love the H&R, definitely my favorite, but I have to say I’m biased as I already purchased a set from you guys… They work great! Any way I can purchase that banner if I don’t win? Haha I’ve purchased lots of parts from you guys while building my ST! Maybe I can be your east coast sponsor 😂
I like the even look of the eibachs. I can't go to low because of living in the country and having a gravel driveway. So the eibachs are low enough that nothing is going to hitting under the car.
Liked the stance of the eiba hs. Rather save my money a bit longer and buy coil-overs to get the exact stance. But great video and thank you for showing us this.
I currently have the Whiteline springs all around (on OEM struts), and im about to upgrade to Bilstein B8s that have H&R springs already mounted. Is it a big difference between the H&R and Whitelines, or should I stick with the Whitelines? I love the Whitelines, but im wondering if it's worth the hassle to switch the Whitelines onto the B8s, or should I run with the B8+H&R combo?
I dont really want to email without giving you guys my business, but i had a question. My 2015 ST1 At 73k miles blew early January (23). Had been tuned by stratified for 6 months roughly, never had an issue, and one day on my way home i did a pretty hard pull as it was 28 degrees out and dry for once so i wanted to enjoy the car. On deceleration the car sputtered and sputtered and eventually just killed. I turned it back on cruised at 35mph with 1000’s of misfires the the AP was picking up and it sounded like a killer STI so i kind of instantly new it was done. Dealer said the head and block were basically melted/burnt. Warranty was voided (obviously) and had to pay $7300 out of pocket (but i have a fresh 0 mile motor). It’s really hard for me to believe the tune was the route cause of the issue and now that i have it back i’m hesitant to get another one, but i want more out of the car.
@@EdgeAutosport I’m Looking at a running eibach 1.5” drop (4.14035 .880) with B8s on stock premiums wheels and eventually konigs 18x8.5+42 w 245/40/18. Would there be fitment issues or rubbing? Or would this be too aggressive of a DRL for daily ?
I recently purchased pfl (pre face lift) h&r springs(28927-8) for my 2017 fl focus estate by accident. I was led to believe it will fit based on the sellers compatibility table. Do I need to return the springs back or will it fit? Thank you for making the video, informative as always.
There's an indicator on the upper mount that I believe goes on the outside??? Or it lines up with an indicator on the shock or something. I can't quite remember. But there's some sort of indicator on it.
@@EdgeAutosport I installed it a couple of different ways to give it a test. What yielded best results was just rotating the cap until the top mount sat level. So I don’t think there is a set orientation when it comes to aftermarket springs. Just whatever makes the top mount level.
OEM will work, but ideally, a strut designed for a lowered ride height is best (like the Bilstein B8) edgeautosport.com/bilstein-b8-performance-plus-shock-front-right-ford-focus-st-2014
Your oem will work for a little while, but I've read in forums they probably only last 15-25k more once you put lowering springs on. I'd spend a little more and get shocks n struts made for lowering like koni or bilstein.
Just for ones who want longer lasting stock shocks, do not put lowering springs on just factory shocks they are not made for that and depending on how old your car is they might last 2 years before blown. Do your self a favor and get shocks that support a lowering spring. I made this mistake.
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Happy to see you guys still making videos for the ST. There's so many folks buying these used now that it's a whole new round of folks modding their cars and we need content like this to keep things going.
I just bought my ST 3 weeks ago, I'm so thrilled that i found your channel and that it has so much recent and updated info! I'll be getting the eibachs for sure, just a bit affraid cause I'm rollin on 19' 😅
I like the look of the eibachs. Eibachs quality is top notch. I'm currently looking into lowering my car along with other suspension mods. If I don't end up getting coilovers I will definitely go with eibach.
The Eibachs definitely look the best, looking forward to getting a set!
Thanks for letting us know your favorite, glad we could help you decide!
The eibach kit for sure my favorite
Thanks for letting us know your favorite!
I think the Eibbach kit is my favorite. I wasn't going to do this to my ST, but this makes me reconsider that.
The Eibach Pro looks pretty clean and is also my fav!
Was about to pick up a set of lowering springs. You guys dropped this video at the perfect time. Thinking about the Eibach springs now more than the others. Fantastic video!!
Love the Pros on my '18 FST with B8s, WL sways and PS4s... makes a exciting daily! Haven't dinged my front end on anything yet parking nose-in... Thought I'd have to back-in everywhere... Nah! Will go B14s after installing the 2860 but until then... Woo-hoo!
Thanks, glad we could help you decide!
Just for looks I would say Whiteline. I did purchase a set of eibach springs, but had to sell them. Because of the aggressive wheel-tire combo I have, I can't lower my car without going widebody (not on my to-do list).
Thanks Edge autosport for making informative videos like this, it really helps out the ST and RD community
I have eibachs and haven't decided if I want to put them on yet. I have 19" wheels. Was yours rubbing?
@@maccpatrick527 19x8.5 wheels with et40. Tires 255/35r19. Stock ride height. Slight rub on front fenders when cornering hard
I'm surprised you didn't review the Mountune or Steeda springs. I was considering Mountune, but ended up getting the Steeda ones. Haven't installed them yet since I just got them, but I've heard good things about them in forums.
Mountune comes with a full kit or springs only while steeda sells them separate from the bilseins on their site. Both companies say 1" drop in front and 1.4" for the rear.
I have the full mountune clubsport suspension on my 16 ST2. I've had it on for a little over a year, no complaints. I wish the rear dropped another 1/2". The front drop is almost perfect.
Eibachs are a win for me! I never thought I would see another focus with Enkei TSV's! Even the same color car as mine, twinning!!
The work and time spend on this videos is awesome. Great video! Good explanation and review on each one. 👍
That being said, are the H&R more comfortable than the Eibach ones?
See what we do for you? haha glad you loved the content. We would say the H&Rs were a little more comfortable, with that large progressive design
@@EdgeAutosport Thats perfect. Thanks for the reply. Excellent costumer service! Hope I win an E-Tune from you guys some day lol.
I want a windshield banner!!! I was the one that purchased the whiteline springs when you guys sold them 👌👌👌
Thanks for the test! I was surprised by H&R being comfortable,People always say H&R is too firm, Never had issues with H&R. Eibach Linear Front suits my style, I don't like the nose bouncing so much.
Love all the options. When I'm ready for springs on my ST I'll be reviewing this video again.
H&R (1) looks the best to me then Eibach (2). I like the Eibach package better with the bump stops and protective sleeve. I'd most likely choose H&R overall.
Giveaway! Nice. My Favorite was the Swift Spec-R.
I bought them because they were the "hardest" (Front: 4.5 kg/mm, 251 lbs/in Rear: 5.0 kg/mm, 279 lbs/in) springs that I could find. I was very surprised that no one really talks about performance with Focus Springs vs. looks. I don't even think Eibach lists their spring rates. I even checked their website. @13:19 he says 2.2 kg/mm ? that can't be right since stock is harder. Maybe it is really squishy??
Anyway, I got the swift for daily and autocross and they did VERY well for my first year in autocross. Not disappointed at all. They also hold up very well at high speeds over 130mph.
Thanks for the video!
Thanks, glad you liked it! We got some conflicting reports on spring rates and drops, that's why we figured we'd try them all out! We thought that sounded soft also, but the design has a lot to do with the feel as well, so perhaps that's by design? Way to get out there and track the car!
@@EdgeAutosport Thanks! Keep up the good work!
Eibachs look the best for sure
Thanks for letting us know your favorite!
I have had the H&R springs on for years now..drop was perfect for the stance, with upgraded rear sway bar (26mm), the car is amazing in the twisties and on track. I got rub with 245/40/18s, swapped in some 255/35/18's and it added a slight gap back, and almost zero rub except for high speed/large dips. But my stance is spot on, car handles great, and its proven itself on the track a few times...still on stock struts. (i have other mods obviously, but just mentioning the springs and rear bar)
Those stock struts arent that good. Mine were done after 50k but were noticeably worn at 30
@@drzflyest4 what'd you replace them with? I think mine are starting to show a loss in performance, it could be a bushing or something for the springs, but it could also be a strut by the sounds of it..a light 'clunking' over small bumps at low speeds.
@@dham99 coilovers
I like the eibachs for the even-ness
Thanks for letting us know your favorite!
I actually like the whitelines they are my fav
It's a good look!
The even level of the eibachs is what I am looking for but a lil lower
I have mountune… little harsh, but don’t have anything to compare them too.. I like the eibach! thanks for the video! Turbos next?
The clubsports? Those are very smooth. Actually better than the stock suspension. I have them on mine.
@@richardlapoint1845 with bilstein B8’s
@@azmavhockey3 yessir. That's what comes with the complete kit. I got the entire kit with shocks/struts and springs. We have some rough ass roads here now and they're great. Real nice on my back. I've even taken a couple long trips with these and wasn't sore when I stopped and got out at a stop like I was with stock beating me around.
Love the H&R, definitely my favorite, but I have to say I’m biased as I already purchased a set from you guys… They work great! Any way I can purchase that banner if I don’t win? Haha I’ve purchased lots of parts from you guys while building my ST! Maybe I can be your east coast sponsor 😂
Thank you for taking the time to do this for us peasants
personally i liked the eibach springs best!
Thanks for letting us know your favorite!
I like the even look of the eibachs. I can't go to low because of living in the country and having a gravel driveway. So the eibachs are low enough that nothing is going to hitting under the car.
That's a fair point! Its a safe height for sure
Liked the stance of the eiba hs. Rather save my money a bit longer and buy coil-overs to get the exact stance. But great video and thank you for showing us this.
Thanks for letting us know your favorite!
Definitely ordering some eibachs now 🤘🏼
Good choice! We've got them ready to ship as well: edgeautosport.com/eibach-pro-kit-lowering-springs-ford-focus-st-2014/
D: Eibach Pro-Kit definitely! Thank you!
I like the eibachs. living in the country the roads are predictably bad.
Curious what y’all think of the Mountune springs? I have them on my ST and I love them
I’m going with the eibach as well
Seems to be a fan favorite!
H&R and eibach for sure
Eibach Springs looked the best for me personally
Thanks for letting us know your favorite!
I currently have the Whiteline springs all around (on OEM struts), and im about to upgrade to Bilstein B8s that have H&R springs already mounted. Is it a big difference between the H&R and Whitelines, or should I stick with the Whitelines? I love the Whitelines, but im wondering if it's worth the hassle to switch the Whitelines onto the B8s, or should I run with the B8+H&R combo?
Loved the H&R!!
Thanks for letting us know your favorite!
I liked the h & r stance the most seems the most even overall
Lot of work for doing that, I like more the Eibach pro :)
Whiteline for sure. The best stance
I'm interested how the different heights effected the balance and how that would effect the handling I would have gone for the h&r
We need a video like this for us. Honda Civic SI
I dont really want to email without giving you guys my business, but i had a question. My 2015 ST1 At 73k miles blew early January (23). Had been tuned by stratified for 6 months roughly, never had an issue, and one day on my way home i did a pretty hard pull as it was 28 degrees out and dry for once so i wanted to enjoy the car. On deceleration the car sputtered and sputtered and eventually just killed. I turned it back on cruised at 35mph with 1000’s of misfires the the AP was picking up and it sounded like a killer STI so i kind of instantly new it was done. Dealer said the head and block were basically melted/burnt. Warranty was voided (obviously) and had to pay $7300 out of pocket (but i have a fresh 0 mile motor). It’s really hard for me to believe the tune was the route cause of the issue and now that i have it back i’m hesitant to get another one, but i want more out of the car.
Fantastic review thank you.
What end links are on the back? The ebiach would be the only thing I'm comfortable with in Oklahoma with our roads, they beat the crap out of a car.
We recently installed Whiteline sway bars and end links on our focus: ruclips.net/video/YrKWJetfi4Q/видео.html
Whiteline for sure.
I got the Eibach with the sway bars... very predictable and capable.
Great combo!
Ya I'm liking the eibach ones, but I think the fronts need a higher spring rate for a track car.
Yeah, if track is your focus, coilovers would get you more spring rate for sure! These springs are more street-focused
Definitely love the eibachs!!!
Thanks for sharing your favorite!
I think the whiteline looked the best
It's the H&R sport for me.
Thanks for letting us know your favorite - those do drive really nice
@@EdgeAutosport Hey man how about thos Eibach sport line spring for a 2020 Honda Civic SI sedan. Let me know something soon.
Awesome video guys. Loving the oem plus build. I'm going with eibach as I daily and don't want rubs and want quality ride
Great choice!
@@EdgeAutosport I’m
Looking at a running eibach 1.5” drop (4.14035 .880) with B8s on stock premiums wheels and eventually konigs 18x8.5+42 w 245/40/18. Would there be fitment issues or rubbing? Or would this be too aggressive of a DRL for daily ?
I recently purchased pfl (pre face lift) h&r springs(28927-8) for my 2017 fl focus estate by accident. I was led to believe it will fit based on the sellers compatibility table. Do I need to return the springs back or will it fit? Thank you for making the video, informative as always.
I need more fc3 content!!
More coming shortly, we promise!
whiteline all the way!!
What is the tire size you guys are running in this video? Looks FAT!! I love it!
focus st question , Can i run big turbo fbo and e30 without having to go aux fuel
I have the Eibach but they are rubbing with Bilstein B8's... not happy.
That probably has more to do with your tire and wheel setup than springs and struts. What is your setup?
Are the eibachs more or less soft than stock? I daily my car pretty far and don’t want a hard ride like I had on my skunk2’s lol
I have the H&R springs I have installed. How do you know the correct orientation of the top bearing when setting the spring since it is tapered?
There's an indicator on the upper mount that I believe goes on the outside??? Or it lines up with an indicator on the shock or something. I can't quite remember. But there's some sort of indicator on it.
@@EdgeAutosport I installed it a couple of different ways to give it a test. What yielded best results was just rotating the cap until the top mount sat level. So I don’t think there is a set orientation when it comes to aftermarket springs. Just whatever makes the top mount level.
H&R
The H&R springs
Thanks for letting us know your favorite!
@@EdgeAutosport u welcome I had the H&R springs on my ss Cobalt when I had it so I'm a little bias 🤣
Great video. New focus owner
Heck ya! Enjoy it! We have a lot of Focus videos and we have tons of parts for the ST and RS. Let us know how we can help! Welcome!
Whiteline
Great choice!
Where's JP what have you done with him!!! *Edit* after some more digging I seen the video where Adrian was introduced 🤣
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Ribach was the best for me getting some next year 👏🏿👏🏿
H and R
Thanks for letting us know your favorite!
Hi, whats the part number the eibach springs
edgeautosport.com/eibach-pro-kit-lowering-springs-ford-focus-st-2014/
What shocks/struts would you recommend with any of these four brands? Stick with OEM or ?
OEM will work, but ideally, a strut designed for a lowered ride height is best (like the Bilstein B8) edgeautosport.com/bilstein-b8-performance-plus-shock-front-right-ford-focus-st-2014
Your oem will work for a little while, but I've read in forums they probably only last 15-25k more once you put lowering springs on. I'd spend a little more and get shocks n struts made for lowering like koni or bilstein.
Running 245x45r18 on my focus st and I plan on going with the H&R springs and I wonder if it will rub or not.. can someone help me out?
That's very close to our setup (245/40/18) and we got no rub at all when tested, I think you should be good to go!
h&r sport
Good 👍 ASS job Brudda ✌.
What's the wheel and tyre size bro?
245/40/18
@EdgeAutosport cheers pal. My wheels are 19"
Just for ones who want longer lasting stock shocks, do not put lowering springs on just factory shocks they are not made for that and depending on how old your car is they might last 2 years before blown. Do your self a favor and get shocks that support a lowering spring. I made this mistake.
BTW love your channel, you tuned my ST and its great, just giving a longer lasting POV
How low can u go?? 💃🏽 🕺🏽
She's car-limbo ready! haha
Eibach all the way, low life ain't for me. Canyon carving is too much fun
Yeah I agree. Plus too low takes alot away.
Not to be a downer here but these springs also break in after a week or so they get to their true height so this test isn't that accurate.
They get lower? 😮