Sony No. 1 while LG and Samsung fight for No. 2! Disagree?
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- Опубликовано: 5 окт 2024
- Somebody has to be No.1 right? let's see if I can convince @BRIANSTECHTHERAPY and @Youthman that it's Sony! See for yourself the best TVs from Sony, LG and Samsung at MWAVE on June 21 midwestavexper... for live comparisons and discussions with our unbiased audience!
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Agree. Sony's image processing is the best!
for xbox?
Guys, Im worried about fomo. He has repeatedly mentioned preferring the tizen smart OS. The only conclusion I can take from this is that FOMO has suffered a concussion.
We have to find a way to save him.
I don't know enough about the LG or Sony software to know the difference, but Tizen has been great for me.
Lol😂
Agreed. Without question, TizenOS is just about the single worst TV OS on the market today. It's backwards, non-intuitive and entirely confusing at best. I can't even tell you how many people I've spoken to that have said that the TizenOS is so bad that the ONLY way they would ever consider buying a Samsung TV would be if they could immediately plug in an external streaming device and never have to use the TizenOS for anything other than changing TV settings. It is so unpopular (even with Samsung customers) that there is talk that Samsung will eventually be forced to just drop it from their TVs altogether and move over to the far easier and more intuitive GoogleTV streaming platform like so many other TV companies have already done.
For anyone thinking they need to hold off on The A95L because of DV issues. I don’t think that’s the case anymore. My A95L recently got a software update. And it fixed the only issue I had with Dolby Vision. That issue was the tv not going into DV mode on Paramount Plus content that supported it. That was the only issue I’ve ever had with DV. DV on the A95L looks fantastic on multiple streaming platforms: Disney Plus, Prime, Netflix, Paramount Plus, Apple TV, etc. Don’t be afraid to purchase an A95L, I still think it’s the best tv on market and can’t recommend it enough.
I have to agree! For the record, I never had a Dolby Vision issue at all (bought this year in 2024) so some of you may not even have a problem upon purchasing.
That whole DV issue on the A95L was blown way out of proportion right from the very start. It was a problem of the A95L not getting DV absolutely perfect right out of the gate like it admittedly should have been. This was always a very small problem for the A95L though, never a big one.
@@michaelbeckerman7532 I thought the content always looked top notch, it was just paramount plus content not going into it that pissed me off. Movies like Maverick and the new Mission Impossible are meant to be Dolby Vision lol. Now that’s squared away after the update.
@@michaelbeckerman7532the interesting part is it's been an issue with Sony for literally years now and it's only now being brought up.
LG is had better Dolby vision for literally at least the past 3-5 years
Bravia 9 is my favorite TV this year, but that's pretty cool TCL QM8 can kinda hang with flagships at a fraction of cost.
For me is the TCL it has lower input latency for gaming than the Bravia 9 I like to win whenever I play plus the Bravia cost more than Doble the TCLQM851
The problem with TVs like the TCL and the Hisense models isn't how they look or how they perform - that part is great, no question about it. It's their reliability over the long term that is lacking. Understand that when you are buying a gigantic TV at a price that is just "too good to be true" like what some of these TCL and Hisense models now sell for now, you really aren't getting the deal you think you are. Those TVs are being sold at those lower price points because they are built using less expensive, lower-quality components that simply will not last as long. Now, ANY TV (from ANY brand) can break on you or have problems so you should ALWAYS put whatever TV you buy under one of the additional protection plans offered by your retailer, just to be on the safe side. But having said that, the old saying really does turn out to be true in the TV space: You get what you pay for!
Also LG is offering a 5 year warranty for its g4@@michaelbeckerman7532
Bravia 9 needs to be seen at 85inch! It’s insane!
Mine gets installed on the 25th. Very excited to experience it.
I'm torn between the bravia 9 85" or the LG g4 83" ????
@@zman-ru3yf Depends. Do you have a oled now or no?
@NexGenTek no, I have the Sony x900h 75" from 2001.
@@zman-ru3yf oh wow definitely go for the Bravia 9. It’s going to blow you away
Sadly, the already challenged projector market is now getting damaged even further today with the emergence of amazing new TVs like the Bravia 9. The very small fraction of TV buyers that were at least considering possibly buying a projector (2% to 3% of them, if that) shrinks now with each passing year. As much as projectors have improved today, they simply just are not winning the hearts and minds of TV buyers. Unfortunately, for projector manufacturers, they aren't even coming close either.
Great content guys! Really enjoyed it. Looking forward to your Mwave videos. Thx.
Sony the best processing, but not necessarily the best value for money compared to LG and Samsung.
Waitimg for Bravia 10, heard the hdmi inpits will all be updated finally.
Well, no one knows for sure, but there is speculation that Sony isn't actually done releasing new TVs for the year yet. People are asking, where is the Bravia 4, 5 and 6 that appear to have been skipped in Sony's 2024 TV lineup? We now know that MediaTek has released their new Pentonic 800 SoC that has some distinct advantages over even the higher-end Pentonic 1000 SoC that the current Cognitive XR processor is based on. Could Sony surprise everyone and release even more new 2024 models later on in the year based on the Pentonic 800? No one knows for sure and anything at this point is just wild speculation, of course,...but stranger things have happened!
Hmm, Very recently saw the G4 and A95L side by side. I don't get the G4 love fest. I reckon the A95l looks better. Maybe it was the content but the A95L looked more real and it obviously has better colour rendition. There are also a couple of technical reviews around showing the A95L is in front in a few area whilst the G4 is ahead in less areas. Maybe the areas the A95L are in front are more important for a realistic picture.
It’s funny because I saw the A95L next to the G3 and S95C and thought the A95L looked the worse o the three. I also think the S95D looks worse than all last years models cause of the screen.
I wonder why we all get different opinions.
I haven’t seen the G4 or S90D yet though.
I was down to the G4 and QN900D. I kept my mind open as I needed lots more comparisons before I made an informed decision.
I saw the gaming comparison of the G4 and S95D, which I had written off due to tech reviews, and was blown away at how much more color luminance and brilliance it had.
I immediately dropped the G4 and added the A95L and S95D, but sadly had to drop the A95L as it doesn't have a third gen QD-OLED panel. But the A95L was my second favorite and would've been "the one" had it the tech upgrades of the new panel.
I dropped the QN900D as that tech isn't quite ready yet. I wanted 8k so bad, but I reluctantly dropped that as an option.
I'm now down to the S95D and still keeping my eyes peeled for changes. I am about informed decisions.
For what I want, the order is S95D > A95L > S90D > G4
There was a shocking gap with even the S90 series and the G4, but for what I want to get out of it. I realize there are different strokes for different folks as wants/needs vary.
Probably depends on how calibrated they were. I now have G4 and very happy, clearly can’t compare to Sony or Samsung as i don’t have them next to it 😅 But, if QD-OLED came i 83” i would still go for Sony A95L in 2024.
@Alex335i yep the lack of 83 inch QDOLEDS is my only reason for procrastination in buying my next TV
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I personally like the picture on the G4 over everything else. It has the most realistic colors out of the box with better looking white color than the QD-oled’s, imo. I just looks like the perfect tv picture to me.
I understand to viewing distance farther than where one can no longer see pixel resolution makes sense, but in certain rooms other factors come into play. I prefer to get my immersion experience from size of the screen, not the viewing distance.
What a shame about rob absolutely loved his chats with Brian they were class
True, I was hoping we'd get more of those.
I think what makes Sony on top is not its flagship products, but its more affordable model X90L. It's such an amazing value for the price, especially with the image processing.
in my 135 inches projector screen laser 4k projector I sit 9 feet away and is immerse and fantastic
Good luck to Rob at Epson. Those are big shoes to fill for someone at Sony
My wife asked if Miami Vice was gonna be at MWave. I said, "Yes, Brian will be there." 😆
Sony number one for movies Samsung for Gaming and LG is in the middle
Notice we only saw the front of Fomo's shirt which is blank. If he would have turned around and let us see the back of the shirt you would have saw it said "Sony The One and Only" (LOL!)
Should have the 85" Bravia 9 at MWAVE.. It's the best version.
I've been waiting to here feedback on Dolby Vision playback. I don't want to hear anything about, DV doesn't matter. I want to know if it still has posterization issues. Posterization occurs when color brightness exceeds the content color luminance.
Sony #1 for who?? Seems they are number 4 in TV sales for a reason.
I will wait until real high nit content is readily available before jumping on the Bravia 9 bandwagon.
I must say... I kinda like the way you talk about brigtness. You're ignoring the HDR aspect of it and treat it as SDR, where it's all about the amount of light a TV can output.
These days brightness has a different meaning. It represents the ability to achieve the HDR highlights at a level that doesn't require clipping and retains all the color information.
I'm personally not so into HDR, but I respect it. And I actively dislike DV. It's 50/50 if it's being used effectively or it's distracting/too realistic. Movies just look good in SDR, it's more subdued and stylized.
Rtings posted a contrast of 388,000 for the Bravia 9 which is nearly double the contrast of the X95L at 200,000.
What's the theoretical pure black for a dark room and one with a bit of ambient light? Talking straight on.
I was watching a video of the Z9D against a Panasonic OLED shot by Vincent and that TV has a contrast ratio of 8,000 and it looks stunningly dark. However the Q60D also has ~8,000 contrast ratio and it's far from perfect if you look at Rting's images.
Great stream! I'm very excited to see the B9-QM851 comparison. With both be calibrated or no? Also, as a 2023 QM8 owner, I'd be curious to see what happens if you raise gamma from (presumably) 2.2 to 2.3 on the TCL and/or lowered black level slightly to see if it helps to counter some of the lifted shadows and black bars. Should also help with some of the clouding in stars.
Pretty sure he’s using dynamic tone mapping too, this TV is bright as hell, it doesn’t need it on at all.
Thank you guys for a great show. I appreciate you all. I too have been following Youth Man for years. You are all awesome 👍😎.
Loving you Youthman! Your presence is so special and welcome! Fomo and Brian (formerly known as Whisper status) . What does every RUclipsr change their name? I like whisper Status!
Fomo, did you have the Bravia 9 on Local Dimming high? The default is Local dimming on medium by Sony. Of course local dimming on high helps with blooming and so on. But it can reduce the highlight brightness. So with LD on Medium it might have shown the stars more etc. I remember you saying in the Bravia 9 video that was solo with the 3110 that you changed it to LD high.
I hope this wasn't in LD High because that is your setting that causes the "compromise" of specular highlights. I am very certain it was LD high because there were times the black was almost blacker than the G4. That wouldn't happen on high exposure if the B9 was in LD medium. It's a choice less blooming and deeper black in a dark room with LD high. But loss of specular highlights a bit. But LD Medium they are stronger. But a slight chance of little more blooming. But often not showing anyway.
I'm really torn help me decide! I'm looking at a Sony Bravia 8 or a LG G4 both are same price (In Australia) I'm coming from a Sony A8H. Not found many reviews on the Bravia 8 so hard to determine if it matches the G4 which by in large has very positive reviews. Thanks!
The Bravia 8 is same panel as the lg C4 like the a80l was a C3. Sony has not done a A95L and has no flagship oled this gen to compete with the G4. Don't know what is going on in Australia but in NA the G4 costs anywhere from $500-1000 more. If you meant the C4 then it will probably depend on use case as gaming will probably be better on C4 while the B8 might do movies better. I imagine we will have expert reviews in a week but that said I imagine the tv is so close you can just go with brand you are comfortable with.
@@Jeremy-WC Here atm the G4 is on sale ($1,500 off) and it's the same price as the Bravia 8.
Definitely go with G4, it’s the Bravia 8 on steroids
g4 crushes it as the guy said above, b8 on roids.
The b8 is using a LG woled panel with no enhancements other than software
The g4 has MLA which makes it much brighter and increases the color volume. On top of that it has the newest LG processor which many are saying meets or even exceeds the xr from Sony. There is any special tricks to the display, LG display helps LG electronics.
I think this is why LG has the best burn in protection. They have the guys that know the panels on speed dial with full support.
So even processing isn't an advantage with the new LG processor exclusive to the G4. I hear and see from various creators that it is ahead of xr processing. LG had been closing the gap for years. Not surprising they had a big move this year and caught up fully.
The b8 is equivalent to a c4. It's a legit step down in hardware.
The a95L is what you'd compare to the g4. That's a good deal get the G4 and I can almost guarantee you'll be extatic when you get it setup.
Especially going up in size and brightness by significant margins. Color too. They used software to get it to look more like a QD OLED and honestly based on videos, it does just that
It's equal in some scenes, touch worse in others, but better in some! So really, the colors this year are a strong point for LG.
FOMO's LG cap representative of OLED deep blacks!
What are you talking about? Sony didnt even release a real tv this year. How much are they paying you? Guys, wait for the bravia 10, which will be qd oled and hopefully has the new chipset. Imagine an a95l replacement with 4k165hz and a powerful chipset.
You guys have singlehandedly tried to create hype for a tv that doesnt have any reviews, and are now comparing it to a G4?
Dont hate the player, hate the game, i guess
Rtings rated B9 as the highest rated ever LCD TV, so there's a review for you.
@MadViking82 I'm aware. However. That isn't saying very much. It still gets beaten by any oled from the last half decade. It doesn't matter what you do with backlight control, it will still either bloom or crush.
I'm not saying it's a bad tv. I'm saying that it doesn't come close to competing with oleds, yet they're charging oled money
Until Cecil or Vincent do a video on it and actually tell you everything that's wrong with it, we are at the mercy of people that are trying to sell us something.
@@MadViking82 Yeah, I called it at 8.7 to 8.8 the other day 🙂 If the LG G4 is a 9.2, it's technically a 9.4 on the real ratings where skin tones, image balance, and detail are as important.
@@Cblan1224 I was watching the Z9D with a contrast ratio of 8,000 in a video against the Panasonic OLED from Vincent Teoh. This one has a contrast ratio of 388,000. Go look at that video to see them in the dark. Out of the dark, the Z9D accelerates and is never again seen by the OLED until darkness arives and the Z9D looks really nice.
Not saying OLED is bad - it's great but the X90L can destroy most OLEDs straight on during the day. I was at Best Buy twice and it slayed the S90C and A80L and I spent 20 minutes looking at both OLEDs versus the X90L in shock. How??? They are OLED!!! How??? This makes no sense but the X90L was punching.
It comes ver close and surpassed Oled in many areas so… I’m not sure what you are truly wanting to say I have 3 oleds and the Bravia 9 looks better than all of them in HDR
Great content as always, FOMO! Question for you: Which LED TV do you think handles blooming around subtitles the best (aside from the Bravia 9)?
I'd say x93L or x95L due to the backlight master drive
Bravia 7 also but the lack of x-wide angle and anti reflective may render more perceptive blooming.
@1:23:24 @1:37:08 How is the G4 that bright? Is there a 2nd Blue light panel like Tandem there? 🙂
I am not excited about a Sony projector exec coming to Epson.
Maybe it’s being cynical, but I see HT enthusiasts have pretty much soured on Sony projectors in the last few iterations.
Sony whispering to Epson…
We are going back to 60Hz, we’ll use super heavy PWM, we’ll move to plastic lenses for cost cutting, and implement panel tech that degrades with time if you don’t regular use them (according to the manual), OR if you do use them (according to experiences on the av forums), and remove features on “budget” models (like the 5000 series laser model not having lens memory and mechanized zoom and focus at that $5k price point where these features have traditionally existed ) this way Sony can usher customers into more premium tier models, we’ll lose the Epson automatic lens cover to cost saving, and finally the money saved by lowering manufacturing and product costs, we’ll pass to dealers, NOT to consumers. (Sony dealer margins are typically the highest, meanwhile their consumer prices are pretty much matched to JVC (that is to say simply too high for most folk)
I don’t know Rob Brennan, but I hope he reads this and thinks it over. You said you may not know it, but he’s a projector guy, how does that gel with Sony losing favor with HT projector enthusiasts over the last few iterations and being pegged as more stagnant than either JVC or Epson. Simply raising prices at Epson is easy to do. Don’t come into Epson and bring that mindset. We Epson customers don’t want that. If you want to notably improve the product, please do, but don’t bring Sony projector culture over to Epson. We Epson customers don’t want it.
I do know Rob Brennan and he's one of the smartest, most articulate and intelligent people I have ever had the pleasure of meeting in my entire life. If Epson has stolen Rob Brennan away from Sony, that is a MASSIVE win for them and one that ANY Epson fan out there should absolutely be celebrating. If that's true, then that is a huge loss for Sony.
Thank u guys!!! I do learn a lot
The camaraderie and genuine love amongst you guys is really wonderful. Salute to all of you!
Calibrate s90d you good to go
Lg G4 definitely looks the best 🔥🔥🔥
It’s a brilliant tv! I have 3 LG OLED’s C series. The thing about the G series is it needs to be on a wall to look best it’s designed to me on a wall for a good reason. I know the 55 and 65 inch come with a stand now which is good but it’s not a very attractive stand when compared to the Sony a 95L. The LG G3/4 on the wall looks the best out of any tv. When the G is on a stand it just looks off, the back of the TV is not designed to be looked at like a Sony TV. The G series also does not have good cable management when it’s on a stand. All these little things add up and really push the Sony or Samsung (but the Sony looks a lot better, but the Sony looks a lot better). Either way you can’t go wrong. They’re all amazing TVs absolutely amazing TVs and we are all just nitpicking to help get to the perfect display.
@@michael-4k4000 I have an 55 A80K and a 65 A95L both have solid stands. I could see the G series looking better on wall. Now the C series stand I think looks fantastic on my uncles 55 C2, he specifically got it because of the stand position and what he was putting it on. On your tv stance I also agree they’re all fantastic TVs. I’m a Sony guy but I think LG OLEDs are great. I recommended my uncle the 55 C2 and 77 S89C based on his budgets and what he was putting the tv on. He loves them both.
75" is the new 55" 😎
Gotta love this guy. Three videos of the U8k is great, then it’s a bastard step child. OLEDS were the best thing now not so much. Anyone else notice how this guys opinions flip.
He "flips" for a reason - because there is ALWAYS new stuff coming out that raises the bar. You should actually be more concerned if he doesn't "flip".
@@michaelbeckerman7532 when you praise a item saying how great it is. It doesn’t mean that all of a sudden it sucks because something new has come along. It still operates the same way. He praised the U8k in three separate videos. Then in a recent one he said he hadn’t liked it. That pretty much means his opinion should be taken with a grain of salt.
Panasonic #1
Don' take care of all this sony fans , panasonic is the best tv , after lg , after sony .
Samsung gaming is insane period
Give me buying advice please. My sony55in x700f just died after 5 years and i need to replace. I want a 55 or 65 inch for my table top 47 inch across. I want 4 or more hdmi full 4k 120hz or better compliant, I watch most of my films on 4k & bluray disc (oppo 203, playstation 5). Just started redeeming dig codes ive had for years, I use now Apple TV and will prob buy an apple TV box for it as well even tho i know i can use the apps on tv and ps5. I love deep black, high contrast and hate motion jitter -soap opera effect, my budget is $2k to $2500 plus id like to get maximum ext warranty on it ...... samsung, LG, sony, Oled, mini led ? and go!
Do you have a bright room?
1 panasonic 2 lg 3 sony
8k is dumb. Save your money people.
Does the calibration lower brightness?
Just go into one of the more accurate modes on your TV like Filmmaker Mode and you can see. My Sony TV dies in Cinema/Custom modes. Caleb recently did a video of FMM (filmmaker mode).
People use those modes - it doesn't matter if you have a Bravia 9. The X90L in Standard mode with Warm will look like a Ferrari next to the Bravia 9 in Filmmaker mode. The mode
Sony is the worst experience in my testing on 2023 models, bad upscaling, not seeing all files on USB. I didn't see that "best" processing and I really don't understand the praising. on Sony. Samsung was the best, but none worth the price they ask. Each year the same record is playing, more scratched or cleaned.
Well, this channel definitely gives me FOMO. I bought the 83” G4 and I’m gonna wonder if I should have waited for the Bravia 9 😅
You should have, the QC issues alone have caused me to setup a return on mine. Waiting for it to be picked up here soon.
@@Seconds84yea we spoke on the Bravia AVS thread and one of the other FOMO streams. Definitely feel bad about your QC issues. Fortunately I have not had any issues at all up to this point. I replaced a B6 that I had for 8 years and never had a single issue with it so I’ve had great luck with LG in the past
Just the insane amount of heat that the G4 puts out when mounted using LG's mounting hardware alone is enough to scare off most potential buyers of that TV. That thing is literally cooking itself to death every second that it is powered on. Not even kidding there. I didn't think it was possible but somehow LG figured out how to make that new TV run even hotter than the already volcanic G3 did.
Just game on a samsung and you won't any TV....Movies will watch on my AR glasses
May the 4th b with u!
The Nit wars have begun!
@@michael-4k4000 yeah its tank tv game now :)
Fomo, can get a S90C 83” from Samsung for $2699! That’s amazing, I know it’s not QD OLED, but for that price it’s worth it, right?
No. Buy a QD-Oled
Absolutely not worth it for a W-Oled.
@Hamza-yu1ur not sure if i was clear, 83" (wb-oled) for $2,699 USD new in box from samsung. U guys really don't think that's worth it?
@@michael-4k4000 no
@Seconds84 WB-OLED has won more best display at the shoot out than QD-OLED.
Sony is definitely number 1 Samsung has bad quality. LG it's oke better than Samsung
Not , panasonic n.1 , lg n.2 , sony n.3
@@AmurTiger-vm5dy Panasonic & Sony are the same
@@patrickb1982 proof please
@@AmurTiger-vm5dy side by side the colours are almost the same. Quality wise lifespan the same.
@@patrickb1982 yours are only bla bla bla , sony is sony and panasonic is panasonic, and panasonic is the best tv of the world
Sony processor is the worst , to much going on . Sony must pay big buck to this guy !!!
Right, and every single person across the ENTIRE TV industry that agrees that Sony's processing (at both the hardware and software levels) is the absolute best is just wrong on that. Got it. (Facepalm)
@@michaelbeckerman7532 I have returned my a95k to Samsung s95c , I don’t like the Sony new processor, they add to much processing on the image and when you switch off the tv look weird. Image is digital with the correct information send to the tv . If the tv cannot reproduce the image natively without processing the image , the tv is garbage. The Sony A84 is more accurate in my opinion with less processing and less colors.
Sony prices are ridiculous
You have to pay for that processing
You get what you pay for. I wish more people actually understood that today. When you buy cheaper products from TCL or Hisense you are buying TVs that are built using lower quality, less expensive components - ones that simply won't last as long.
@@michaelbeckerman7532 or sony is just gouging people because they know the fanboys will buy anything
Rob Brennan left Sony? Wow, signs of Sony ‘s decline
Yes, I thought he was amazing at explaining what made Sony special. He was easily the most knowledgeable person and even more amazing he could explain that to everyone.
If I were Sony, I would try to bring him back.
@@techsamurai11According to Google, this dude has been with Sony for a decade. The timing of his exit, whether it's due to termination or his own decision, raises some concern (imo) about Sony given the recent release of their supposedly revolutionary LCD TV
It's not a sign of Sony's decline at all, it just means that Epson saw and recognized him for the absolute industry rock star that he was - and they made him an offer he couldn't refuse. That's a HUGE loss for Sony, for sure, but a major win for Epson. They are going to be SO lucky to have someone that skilled, articulate and capable on their team. Congrats to them and best of luck to Rob in his new role. I'm sure he will absolutely kill it for Epson, exactly like he did for Sony.
@@trippplefive He's an industry rock start and they poached him away. This type of thing happens all the time in the corporate world. Epson's gain is Sony's loss. Simple as that.
Who can spot the guy that gargles LG 😂
SONY ✌🏻
🎉
Sony is worst.
See to be honest I honestly don't consider Sony number one. Yes their picture quality is Top Notch but not their operating system. I think what they use Android or Google that right there is just an absolute no-go. Why Sony don't have their own proprietary OS like LG or Samsung blows my mind. It's honestly why no matter how good Sony's TVs are I will never get one.. So to Me
LG has to be Over all #1 because they got great picture quality support all features and have a great OS(WebOS)
Samsung #2 because their picture quality is good they support a lot of features but not as much as LG or Sony But has a Great OS(Tizen)
Sony being #3 cause there OS is the worst of the big 3. But exceptional picture quality and also like LG supports all features.
OS to me is 60% of the grade. 25% Picture Quality 15% Features.
I wouldn’t let that stop you. Most reviewers who use an Apple TV on their personal tvs. They all say Google TV is the best tv OS. Not even close. That’s a bad reason to not buy a Sony tv the OS. Google TV is fantastic on my 80K and 95L.
I almost never even use the OS. Sources are selected via my pre-pro and streaming uses the Apple TV OS.
I stick with WebOS. I don't even like Google on my phone so wouldn't care for it on my TV.
I also have no part in the Apple economy system
You do realize that almost everyone in the entire TV industry today disagrees with you on that, right? GoogleTV is widely considering to be the best, most flexible and easy to use OS of ANY the choices/options out there in the marekt today. Why do you think more companies are dumping their OS's and switching over to GoogleTV all the time now? Customers love GoogleTV. It is FAR more capable than either the WebOS or the incredibly confusing and entirely non-intuitive TizenOS for streaming content, live TV and available apps - and it's not even close. There is even talk that Samsung may well be dropping the TizenOS altogether soon and switching over the GoogleTV in the near future as well.
@@michaelbeckerman7532 exactly. Works great on 3 of my Sonys. X90J I gave to a buddy, and my A80K and A95L.
Samsung is #1 🎉🎉🎉🎉🎉
I'm a fan of both Sony & Samsung, as the 2 best TVs we have here are a Sony A9G 77" OLED (77" version of the 65" Sony OLED that won the 2019 Value Electronics Flat Panel Shootout) & our living room TV is Samsung's 85" QN90B Mini-LED LCD, that's an amazing unit in its own right. For example, at the end of July 2023, in listing the 7 65" TV models Consumer Reports test techs rated as the 7 65" TV models that the testers defined as having "Top Notch" picture quality, out of 93 models of 2023, 2022, & 2021 65" TVs of 9 brands, that CR's techs had tested, Samsung's 2022 model 65" QN90B was the ONLY Non-OLED TV earning that Top Notch description for its picture quality. And actually, the QN90B's successor, Samsung's 2023 QN90C 65" model, scored LOWER in overall PQ than the 65 inch QN90B did! I just wish that the test techs at CR had evaluated the performance of the QN90B in the 85" size that we have. But our experience with the 85" QN90B sure seems to back up CR's description of the 65" QN90B, such as CR describing the QN90B as "having a black level that's among the deepest we've seen." Since black bars displayed on our 85" Samsung, when viewing movies like "No Country For Old Men", are as deeply black as they are on our well tweaked Sony Master series OLED. Anyhow, CR's test techs certainly can't test EVERY TV model in EVERY size available, because CR evaluates over 200 models of TVs of various sizes EACH year! And that means CR's testers have MORE experience evaluating TV quality than reviewers or testers at about any other organization or test group in the world, have! CR buys TVs it tests from stores, the SAME way most TV customers get their TVs. NO TV models provided by a manufacturer, or by a brand, are used in CR's tests. And because Consumer Reports & its website (where digital subscribers can see FULL TV test reports) belong to a Non-profit testing organization that accepts NO advertising from companies selling products CR tests, IMO, CR's test results usually end up being quite accurate in describing the quality of products rated. BTW, the Sony A95L is currently CR's top rated TV!
No pne should be talking sony. Especially this overpriced nonsense
Sony stinks, even there color is off. LG C4 is number 1!
You really should have your eyes checked. Sony is literally the single most accurate TV right out of the box of any TV made in the world today. This has been confirmed by every single reviewer in the entire TV space.
Samsung TV's are for streamers Sony for overpriced and good picture quality and lg good for most people who don't just stream and has (physical media) and has good picture and isn't cheap or expensive