Looks great. I recommend making the rotor cowls out of carbon fiber to reduce the weight. Also, a lot of that aluminum could be carbon fiber tubes. Just make the corners out of billet aluminum. That would cut down a lot of weight. There are also companies that make carbon fiber propellers
@@wadecordts3286 Same here. I do have a good friend who is a composites engineer who has offered help for making those design decisions when we get there.
Haha I know, same thing happens to me at times. Thanks! Just finished some new motor and prop testing and will have some videos for that before too long.
Great idea, was worried about the open blades so close to the elbows but glad to hear you're going to duct it. When you duct it make sure to use ducted blades to increase thrust and efficiency, 6 bladed setup appears to be most efficient # for all sizes. You may want to look at Mollars sysem to get some ideas on the props. 👍 should be less expensive to make then the jet engines and better/more enjoyable layout then standard drone systems. Just make sure to pad the price for insurance and litigation costs (someone dumb always gets hurt or sues). Can't wait to see these hit the market.
Thanks! Yes, lots to figure out when going to ducted. I'll check out Mollars system. Interesting that 6 blades is the most efficient. Do you have a good resource or study done on that? I would love to read more.
You are a visionary Daniel! Can't wait to see the progress. You should build a lightweight replica (one you could easily walk around with for an hour or two) and come to one of our events! It would generate alot of interest!
Both will eventually have to change to something that can safely support me in flight. For testing I used a matek f722se and betaflight. Both worked well.
Good idea and execution; but just like Gravity Industries jet pack, until you develop low-altitude, low/high velocity safety recovery system, someone is going to get killed. Ballistic chutes don't work below 200', but falling 6 feet will kill you, especially if you have velocity. Check rotorcraft H-V curve.
Would it be possible to do 3 sizes one with 2 rotors and 40 kg thrust, 1 with 4 rotors and 80 kg thrust and 1 with 6 rotors with 120 kg thrust so the weaker and lighter people can carry it there are alot more weaker and lighter people than strong people.
Yes that would be one of the longer term goals for sure. Experimental version here in the US would open all that up. I'm not exactly sure what would be needed to use this for work like with towers and bridges and such. It might have to be fully certified which would be a long road.
@@kingsbishop1479 I don't even know. Nothing's been done like that in this class before so it all be new territory. We're talking millions of dollars and probably at least 5 years for something like that to happen.
We have only flown it in a small cage. But if I was to guess I would say about 20 miles an hour is max on this prototype. It just doesn't have enough thrust to go much faster.
Check out our website for all the info on it. This is the first prototype and it is unmanned. I'm hoping to get another prototype in the air this coming year. That one will be designed to be manned at some point once we get through some flight testing. Eventually these will be for sale.
Also something else to be careful of is girls will want to fly it and their hair can be long so you have to make sure that girls hair can’t get caught in the blades.
For this prototype each motor puts out about 30lb of thrust. This may be reduced a bit once they are in the coaxial configuration. These are low cost hobby brushless motors. Though they're still about $200 each.
@@fritzahern1380 Cost to patent varies widely. A provisional patent application which just gives you the ability to publicly show the invention for one year before filing a full patent is quite inexpensive, and can be filed with simple drawings. The full patent fees are in the $1000 range and unless you have done them before it is highly recommended to hire a patent attorney. It isn't uncommon for a simple patent to cost over $10k. If you are interested in this sort of thing definitely get professional advice.
How come drones can fly for half an hour with payload double their weight and the skypak or electric jetpack cant fly for more than 2 minutes with payload double their weight.
This has to do with the efficiency. So think of it as the power per lb of thrust. We can get much better efficiency, but the rotors would have to be the size of small helicopters to be that efficient. that isn't a backpack aircraft now. It all comes down to Size and efficiency... that is the tradeoff.
@@kingsbishop1479 I hope so, but they will need to be 10x better than the best LiPo/Lion of today. If someone could develop a high capacity Super Capacitor that might be a solution too.
When you sell these can you also sell on with half the weight and thrust for the weaker and lighter people please it would make it so much easier and also for women as well.
Being able to have a drone that can carry 6-8 men quickly just feet off the ground or evac a wounded man has real world applications. Clips for quick release. Flu right over mines
We are so excited to share SkyPak V1 with you.
Great job, Ascend Dynamics and Daniel Gant!!! So exciting!
Looks great. I recommend making the rotor cowls out of carbon fiber to reduce the weight. Also, a lot of that aluminum could be carbon fiber tubes. Just make the corners out of billet aluminum. That would cut down a lot of weight. There are also companies that make carbon fiber propellers
Yep lots of weight savings to be had. Aluminum corners or bond and carbon wrap the corners?
@@AscendDynamics carbon fiber isn’t really my wheelhouse. I’m not sure which method would be cheaper/stronger
@@wadecordts3286 Same here. I do have a good friend who is a composites engineer who has offered help for making those design decisions when we get there.
Just saw this for the first time today, and it's a year old! How did I miss this? Great work so far!
Haha I know, same thing happens to me at times. Thanks! Just finished some new motor and prop testing and will have some videos for that before too long.
Great idea, was worried about the open blades so close to the elbows but glad to hear you're going to duct it. When you duct it make sure to use ducted blades to increase thrust and efficiency, 6 bladed setup appears to be most efficient # for all sizes. You may want to look at Mollars sysem to get some ideas on the props. 👍 should be less expensive to make then the jet engines and better/more enjoyable layout then standard drone systems. Just make sure to pad the price for insurance and litigation costs (someone dumb always gets hurt or sues). Can't wait to see these hit the market.
Thanks! Yes, lots to figure out when going to ducted. I'll check out Mollars system. Interesting that 6 blades is the most efficient. Do you have a good resource or study done on that? I would love to read more.
Very innovative concept. I hope this goes far and wide. A lot of work has gone into this. May God bless this SkyPak and may all glory go to God.
You are a visionary Daniel! Can't wait to see the progress. You should build a lightweight replica (one you could easily walk around with for an hour or two) and come to one of our events! It would generate alot of interest!
Thank you sir and thank you for your help! Yes, I should do that. 3d printed frame and motors.
Nice idea, looking forward to future progress!
Thank you!
That looks so cool!
LOVE your project ! With the know how you´ve collected you could build the lightest and safest electric paramotor.
Good to see these craft, the future is gonna be cool!
Thanks. It's fun. And so cool what technology can enable.
Another test pilot right here!
Way Awesome! Let me know if you need a test pilot!
Will do Dan!
This!
Tom says I get first flight. I will start hoarding bubble wrap.
Haha! We'll just give you a life jacked and put you over water!
Need money?
Partner with the Hacksmith ... That guy gets all the funding. Like a magician!
Hacksmith would be a great partnership!
If I win one million dollar, I will buy one from you guys.
Perfect! You can fund development and have the first one. 😁😎
Hello !
Amazing work Guy, it's really cool 🔥🔥👍🙏
What type of flying controller do you use ? Wich software ?
Keep up the good works, thanks 🔥👍🙏🙏🙏
Both will eventually have to change to something that can safely support me in flight. For testing I used a matek f722se and betaflight. Both worked well.
@@AscendDynamics thanks a lot 🔥🙏
When you make a tiny model version of the skypak V2 can you show us and put it on youtube.
Yep. I need to get some good footage of the 1/4 scale V1. It flies really well and I can do flips with it.
@@AscendDynamics how much thrust does it have.
@@kingsbishop1479 The 1/4 scale V1? It has about 3lb of thrust and weighs a little over 1lb in rough numbers. Uses just 6 motors.
Good idea and execution; but just like Gravity Industries jet pack, until you develop low-altitude, low/high velocity safety recovery system, someone is going to get killed.
Ballistic chutes don't work below 200', but falling 6 feet will kill you, especially if you have velocity. Check rotorcraft H-V curve.
Yep you're right. That's the big hurdle to overcome still... Well I guess the biggest hurdle is energy storage.
Would it be possible to do 3 sizes one with 2 rotors and 40 kg thrust, 1 with 4 rotors and 80 kg thrust and 1 with 6 rotors with 120 kg thrust so the weaker and lighter people can carry it there are alot more weaker and lighter people than strong people.
It might be possible. Would definitely take a lot of extra development though.
You should also make a version that doesnt have the ultra light limitations for certified pilots so they can go faster than 102 kmh.
Yes that would be one of the longer term goals for sure. Experimental version here in the US would open all that up. I'm not exactly sure what would be needed to use this for work like with towers and bridges and such. It might have to be fully certified which would be a long road.
@@AscendDynamics how many years would it take to get fully certified approx.
@@kingsbishop1479 I don't even know. Nothing's been done like that in this class before so it all be new territory. We're talking millions of dollars and probably at least 5 years for something like that to happen.
How fast can the skypak V1 fly.
We have only flown it in a small cage. But if I was to guess I would say about 20 miles an hour is max on this prototype. It just doesn't have enough thrust to go much faster.
hello
is this a prototype ?
available for sale ?
Can I have the characteristics ?
Check out our website for all the info on it. This is the first prototype and it is unmanned. I'm hoping to get another prototype in the air this coming year. That one will be designed to be manned at some point once we get through some flight testing. Eventually these will be for sale.
What is the diameter of the props.
Of which prototype? The 1/4 scale one uses 3.5in props. V1 Uses 20in props, and I'm considering something between 32 and 40in props for V2.
Also something else to be careful of is girls will want to fly it and their hair can be long so you have to make sure that girls hair can’t get caught in the blades.
How much does each electric motor cost and how many lbs of thrust does each have
For this prototype each motor puts out about 30lb of thrust. This may be reduced a bit once they are in the coaxial configuration. These are low cost hobby brushless motors. Though they're still about $200 each.
@@AscendDynamics thanks for the info! One last question, how much to the batteries weigh, cost, and what’s the flight time?
@@fritzahern1380 for testing we have a rather small battery that only gives 2 min of flight time. Still it is a 25lb battery and was over $1200.
@@AscendDynamics thank you! and last thing how much for a patent, and could you submit with blueprints alone?
@@fritzahern1380 Cost to patent varies widely. A provisional patent application which just gives you the ability to publicly show the invention for one year before filing a full patent is quite inexpensive, and can be filed with simple drawings. The full patent fees are in the $1000 range and unless you have done them before it is highly recommended to hire a patent attorney. It isn't uncommon for a simple patent to cost over $10k. If you are interested in this sort of thing definitely get professional advice.
How much money do you need to fund this.
A lot. Several million to bring it to market.
You should make different sizes when you start selling them so the lighter weaker people will be able to carry it.
Yep that is a definite potential.
How have you been? I miss our conversations. Some new news coming out soon on SkyPak.
@@AscendDynamics is it the skypak V2
@@kingsbishop1479 V2 Hardware is on the way for initial testing! 🙂
How come drones can fly for half an hour with payload double their weight and the skypak or electric jetpack cant fly for more than 2 minutes with payload double their weight.
This has to do with the efficiency. So think of it as the power per lb of thrust. We can get much better efficiency, but the rotors would have to be the size of small helicopters to be that efficient. that isn't a backpack aircraft now. It all comes down to Size and efficiency... that is the tradeoff.
How are you going to make it fly for 30 minutes.
Batteries are a LONG ways away from that, so it would require a hybrid generator system. This is something we plan to work on developing.
@@AscendDynamics would solid state batteries fix the problem with the flight time as they will be coming out in a few years.
@@kingsbishop1479 I hope so, but they will need to be 10x better than the best LiPo/Lion of today. If someone could develop a high capacity Super Capacitor that might be a solution too.
@@AscendDynamics when do you think high capacity super capacitors will come out.
@@kingsbishop1479 I don't know. Currently the energy density is worse than lithium batteries.
When you sell these can you also sell on with half the weight and thrust for the weaker and lighter people please it would make it so much easier and also for women as well.
That's a possibility.
@@AscendDynamics so will you do it as soon as you can sell these.
Being able to have a drone that can carry 6-8 men quickly just feet off the ground or evac a wounded man has real world applications. Clips for quick release.
Flu right over mines
you obviously know next to nothing about aerodynamics. 🤦♂ facepalm
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Looks like a hunk of junk my teenage nephew could have put together
Horrible design and not secure at all
I like the design as long as it is safe for sure i would buy.