@@Plut0kin What a ridiculous word salad you just spewed. Behind the stupidity I'm pretty sure you just called me homophobic which is hilarious since I'm gay
@@Plut0kin that's up there with the most ridiculous word salad I've seen in a while, but I'm pretty sure you called me homophobic which is hilarious considering I'm gay.
These idiots... He's closet gay or doesn't want to offend people who will RIP him in half and turn on him in two seconds. Aye , them YOUR people who do that lol.
As a gay man this is stupid. It’s acting! It’s a job. The actors on ER weren’t really surgeons. Daniel Radcliffe isn’t really a wizard lol. Like let’s focus on real issues. This is stipud.
I feel bad when people in your community and "allies" make problems where there ain't none which just gives the assholes who are already prejudiced more ammo :/
I am a gay actor. The idea that you have to be gay to play a gay role is absurd. That means that you’re not a good enough actor to do something that is not the truth you live in.
Some ppl some love to put others in box. Its like you have to be or act a certain way to be classified as that one thing. Its a way to sterotype others. They expect gay ppl to visible look and act a certain way so they think its wierd when u act straight. Same can be said of Straight actors.
No, but if your target audience is gay men and the media focus on gay romance as the central plot point, it's more sensible to have gay actors play gay characters. Look at Fellow Travelers and Looking, would those shows really work if straight dudes play the main role?
@@matts5164Ofcourse having a straight person play a gay character works in an acting role, same as having a gay actor play a straight character, it's worked great hundreds of times in the past and I think it's insane that anyone should be getting flack for playing a role that they have both the look and talent to portray.
I’m a gay guy, and Darren Criss playing gay roles bothers me 0%!! For those who have criticized him and were culprits in driving him to this decision, check your double standards cuz I’m sure you had no complaints with gays playing straights. At the end of the day, if the actor is right for the part, then they should get it, plain and simple!!
Darren has been a huge ally for lgbtq+ community since his Starkid days, and I think it just all comes down to how that person portrays gay chracters in the show, and I think Darren really does it well.
I'm pretty sure that all 3 of the gay roles he's been in are Ryan Murphy productions - it's not uncommon at all for certain actors or producers to want to work with the same actors time and again - so it's always been more of a "director's choice" thing, so the VERY GAY Ryan Murphy is the one who is responsible for this straight actor doing his gay roles. Also, it's Hedwig and the Angry Inch.
@@clusterchuck7346lol right! I play too. It’d be boring if we had to play as humans our age and gender every time 😅. People just make up things to get upset about.
Wait, so Anthony Hopkins ISN'T actually a cannibowlstic cereal khiller, despite playing in silence of the lambs? 🤔 I'm actually in shock 😮😂, can't trust any actor these days 😤😭
You're right. Like when white people used to play black. Or take it further back to when only men were allowed to act and played all the women characters. Real sound logic there.
Yet hes not comfortable with the role. Not all roles are made equally and not all actors should be expected or forced to do something they are not comfortable with.
So...I went to the University of Michigan with Darren. We were in the same voice studio. He was a very empathetic and compassionate person, and I can totally see why he would make this choice. It may not be everyone's choice, but this is the guy who would sit in the back of masterclass with a nice thing to say about every student who sang in class that day. This is entirely in line with his personal character.
I respect the hell out of any actor who can consistently and accurately play a sexuality they aren't. To be that talented, mature, and comfortable is what acting is about.
I think it's less that only gay actors should play gay characters and more that queer people should be included in the making of a queer story. Idc if it's the director, a consultant, the actors, casting, production, etc.
Neil Patrick Harris played a full on womanizer for six years, and nobody said a thing. knowing good well, he was happily married to a man. But OK it’s wrong for a straight man to play a gay character.
Until gay actors are given fair consideration for straight roles, then, yes. Go look at the number of gay actors who've been rejected for straight roles BECAUSE they are gay.
[Speaking as someone gay and Asian] Should I also then be cool with Scarlett Johansson playing an Asian Woman in Ghost in the Shell? As cool as she is... After all, when Wasian Actress like Merle Oberon (1936 Best Actress Nominee) passed as white for a long time, "and nobody said a thing" There is a big difference between giving the opportunities & roles of a minority (e.g. Asian, LGBTQ+...) to the majority, and the majority giving minority actors more opportunity to work to help even out the field!
@@MichaelLee-uz6lv Scarlett, like her antagonist in the film, played and Asian woman with amnesia IN A CAUCASIAN ROBOTIC BODY. JUST like in the Manga or Japanime... As it was confirmed YEARS AGO by the creator of the Manga... who happens to know best, and definitely better than the woke-mob. The character was played by an Asian in the flashback.
Moral of the story. People that have an opinion about this probably aren’t doing much with their lives so they have time to care that he kissed another man like it matters who you kiss.
I definitely understand what he means by 'culturally queer' He means he has been surrounded and exposed to the queer subculture all of his life. Criss has never been away from queer culture because he was raised in San Fransisco and his parents ensured he was exposed to the vitality and diversity of the LBGTQ community . He was very fortunate I am a gay man who is not culturally queer because I lived in small rural towns and there was no internet or access in my day. I had to learn it all late in life.
These people just want something to complain about. You can’t give in to them even once or they will try to control your entire life. They would be mad if straight actors refused to play gay roles and now they’re mad when they don’t refuse to as well. It’s ridiculous.
I think its fine for him to play gay roles but I think the criticism comes from the fact that historically openly gay people have struggled for lead parts (I'm thinking of Rupert Everett off the top of my head) and then when gay roles were becoming more acceptable straight men were getting those roles too (Capote, Brokeback, Milk). As I say I think it's fine now but that might be where the criticism comes from.
You’re not taking work away from gay actors if you play a gay character, unless they had initially hired a gay guy to play the role then dropped him for someone more famous.
You’re doomed if you do, doomed if you don’t. But I also don’t think that his decision is NOT dumb; as an actor, he doesn’t want to be type cast and doing other challenges/other character is better for the resume. Just my 2 cents.
Despite this being stupid I respect the decision mostly because I'd just be tired of the constant questions and issues surrounding playing a character who is gay Probably easier to just do straight roles
it’s honestly so sad watching this happen with other people as well. One sad example is Kit Conner playing Nick in heartstopper. Everyone called him out and hated on him, eventually forcing him to come out online. It’s so upsetting that people don’t focus on real world issues.
Queer doesn't mean gay. It's a broad term. Unappropriationable . There are wayyy bigger fish to fry than that. You sound like a critic, so I'll take your initial advice.
@@Amrfork Yeah that's why so many queer actors stay in the closet. Because they like it, not because they know they will still loose roles in this day an age.
If you consider yourself a "GAY actor" instead of an "ACTOR who happens to be gay", then YOU are the problem. You are doing politics instead of acting. If you try to be cast for a straight part but keep playing with the flamboyance of Simon in Kinky Boots, despite being told otherwise, then YOU are the problem. You're supposed to become the part, NOT the other way around.
@@jean-mi1825 you are living in a vortex without considering context, history, prejudice and privillage. We are the some of our parts. Also, politics is part of everyone's daily lives if you think about it or not. Im just trying to be equitable and thinking about the realities of prejudice and discrimination that have historically taken opportunities away from marginalised people. If it's an even playing field it would be fine but it's not. This is going to be my last post about it. It's not my job to educate anyone.
gay actors are just chocking themselves. If they say gay characters can only be played by someone who is gay, then they need to stop auditioning for straight character.
Recently,in the amazon Prime show hazbin Hotel,in episode 6,darren plays a character known as Saint peter,though he doesn't appear for long enough for him to have a canon sexuality,hes very flamboyant and everyone agrees hes gay
Its just a role...it's sad when we realize that society prolly harassed him to the point where he now feels the need to change things in his own life. This is an admirable and mature decision on his part. 💯
I don’t see how that’s a bad thing. He’s was great in Glee as Blaine, but now getting type casted in roles that could be going to ACTUAL gay men. I could never hate him because just having someone like him to even consider playing a gay role was good enough for men, let alone 3 times. Not many straight men will do gay roles pretty much due to the accusations that everyone just assumes they are gay are bisexual, when they are portraying a character that is. Chris should have been asked if he was uncomfortable during that kiss with Lea, as well as any gay men that HAVE to play straight roles.
That's one of the few common points that a lot of homophobic straights and straightphobic LGBTs have: they consider bi as a "GAY but still somehow in the closet" excuse...
@@SplendidFellow ok care to explain? I know you won't but I'll give you the opportunity to give a cogent answer even though we both know you'll just call me a name and move on.
How can he be stealing rolls from anyone? He gets the roles because he's good at what he does. If they're good at what they do then they'll get hired and if they aren't, they don't get the part. That's how it works. There's no stealing it. If you're good, you get it. So stop complaining and just be good at acting, not just being a stereotype.
They are actors they are supposed to act the roles that were given to them rather it be gay or straight. normally to start their career they would take whatever role that is given to them, and now that Darren is more well known, he could be able to choose whatever role he is willing to take if the producer, or Director is willing to give it to him.
It’s actually quite strange though if you think about it. You know how drama kids / theatre guys are strereotyped as gay? But Aren’t literally all actors just successful theatre kids yet there’s not many gay actors. It’s interesting to ponder
@@IsraelLlerena they are gay lol. They just hide it. Even someone like Hugh Jackman was known to frequent gay clubs in Australia before he found fame.
The equivalency between gay actors playing straight roles and straight actors playing gay roles ignores the massive systemic power imbalance between heteronormativity and queerness.
As a gay guy and indie filmmaker, I have zero issue of a str8 guy play8ng bc it's called acting. When casting the role goes to whoever does it best period
It's literally called "acting" if they can act straight or gay regardless of their sexuality and they're the best for the role they deserve it. I only believe in casting for appearance if they need to look like an established character .
Being mad for a Straight guy playing gay characters Being fine qith a Gay guy playing straight characters That's a double standard, and if you think otherwise, you're objectively wrong and I don't care what you want to say.
You are clueless. Many gay actors are rejected from CONSIDERATION for straight roles. It means that when they throw out names for suggestions on who may be right for the role physically, gay actors are often rejected at that stage. Rejected before they were informed of the role, rejected when they express interest for the role. No chance for trying out for the role.
@@jbak87 That wasn't my point. My point is that it's a double standard to be upset about a Straight Actor playing a Gay Character, but not vice versa. Understand what my comment is about before you reply insulting me.
@@jbak87 YOU do because you thought I was talking about something almost completely different, when I was saying something was a double standard, and you took that as something else.
@@jbak87 YOU do because you thought I was talking about something almost completely different, when I was saying something was a double standard, and you took that as something else.
Well, look, I’ve never heard of this guy before and I’ve never seen anything he’s been in. So, I don’t have a dog in this fight. But, I think, collectively, that we would all be pretty upset if they hired Chris Pine to star in a biopic about Martin Luther King, Jr. when he’s not Black. I know the Black community would lose its mind. And, there’s a mini-series called “Shardlake” that’s just out on Hulu that’s been adapted from a series of books. In the books, the main character is disabled and they actually got an actor with a similar disability to play Shardlake. Sure, they could have used a non-disabled actor and used prosthetics and CGI but I think it was nice that they used a differently-abled person. So, let’s not act as if the viewing public doesn’t have boundaries we think actors shouldn’t cross when it comes to who should portray what on screen. Chris Pine might have the acting chops to play a great MLK - as long as you close your eyes. The second you open them, the illusion is shattered because he obviously doesn’t look the part. So, what’s the difference between that and orientation? I mean, I definitely see what the differences are but maybe some gay people and others genuinely feel like that should be a boundary, too. In the end, I don’t particularly agree with the people who are complaining about this guy playing gay characters but I think they have the right to be part of the conversation.
Yes should have voice in this debate. It's not debate. If yhink gay actor should be only ones to get gay parts then only straight actor get straight parts
It’s what you do for the community to be a part of it. You can’t play a gay character and then be homophobic but the way he fought for our rights when very little straight people were is honorable
Acting is acting. I worry more about what the writers and directors do with the character than the actor because typically they have them play stereotypes instead of normal people.
The issue isn't straight men playing gay roles its that those roles are being taken from queer people that aren't being given the same opportunity to play any other role that isn't LGBTQIA focused. That is where the problem lies. Gay people are pigeonholed into gay roles and then straight people are taking them. It is a problem of privilege (one that Darren Criss acknowledges) which makes sense for him not to take those roles anymore. In a perfect world where true equality existed - yes, it would be a case of "come on, it's called acting", but we don't live in that world.
I agree that if there are gay men playing straight men than straight men as long as it is not character can play gay men. It's called acting acting requires that you be someone that you're not not that you come to work to play yourself
The reason why straight actors playing gay roles is controversial is because gay actors are usually rejected for EVEN CONSIDERATION for straight roles. Many gay actors have been outright rejected for straight roles simply for being gay. By that logic, gay men should be most fit for gay roles. Instead, so many gay roles(prestigious ones at that) end up going to straight actors. There is unevenness is how roles are being doled out to gay actors.
@@jbak87 Having a background in theater. I would say to you that that is not always the case. Gay actors are not always refused for straight rolls as there are a lot people within the LGBTQIA+ community playing straight rolls. And if we begin to put constraints like his on casting it will actually begin to take us backwards. We would could then say that Americans can’t play Britts and Britts can’t play Americans, even though almost every major Oscar winning American role has been played by a British actors recently. We go back to people of color not being cast for rolls that don’t specify race. All of these come into question. But, I stand on it is still called acting, which means you have to be able to convincingly portray someone outside of yourself. When I look at the role that Darren Criss played as Andrew Cunanan there was so much more to that than the fact that the man was gay. One he looked so much like him, it was very creepy. In addition to that he was able to bring forth just the mental psyche of a well-known killer and play that role undeniably convincingly to the point that I’m not sure who else would’ve been able to play it gay or straight.
@@jbak87 it’s not as political as you think. It’s because straight actors are more likely to say yes and do things that would cross their sexual boundaries. While gay men find it much more uncomfortable and difficult to do so. Back when Hugh Hefner was alive I’ve met straight men who said they’d have sex with him for $500 million and I’ve met gay men who have said that they wouldn’t kiss a woman for any price because it would feel to uncomfortable & weird
I could see this to not get type casted cause three is kinda a lot not because he’s straight but he prob just wants to explore other character types/ stories.
Acting is acting! The whole point is being someone you're not. I've not watched movies/series in the last 12 years because very low intelligent stuff like this. I don't miss it either.
The criticism DOES make sense, because there are a million straight roles and about 10 gay roles. So gay actors have no choice but to fight over the few roles available or try to act straight so they can get straight roles (which is extremely hard if you're publicly gay) whereas straight men can come in and take some of those few gay roles without any issues, especially if they're attractive.
Anyone who has understood theater would know men would dress as women commonly in plays and act as women since women weren’t allowed. The point of acting is to behave as someone you’re not
Ridiculous. He’s an actor for heavens sake. Just more virtue signalling. Does that mean a gay man can’t play a straight man? These terms are now so redundant. Just be believable.
I applaud him. I don't mind straight actors playing gay roles if they're better than the competition, but I can imagine he is tired of breaking hearts 😂
He's an Actor by chosen profession... There is Always someone or some group who find disagreement in everything...this cultural appropriations is just another red herring plain and simple. And totally understand his stance on being culturally gay. Speaks volumes about his parents and growing up He judges people by their character not some lable that others assign.. Applause to him.
As a gay guy, I find it so stupid for anyone to complain about a straight guy playing gay roles because simply put, he's an actor playing a role, something tells me the people offended are "woke" straight people and a few gays with a serious case of victimitess....
As with most forms of representation and the debate surrounding it I feel the “gay people play straight characters” argument is a common appeal to fairness that doesn’t quite understand the issue. It is one thing to be a member of a group that feels unseen and have to act as someone different, but it is something entirely different to be a member of the “in crowd” as it were, acting as a member of that unseen group. It gives little real representation of that group but is instead an outsiders interpretation of them. >inb4 people start seething because gay people exist.
And he was never heard from again But honestly he won an EMMY for his role in Versace. He’s not stealing anything from anyone he was just clearly the best choice for the role
Isn't the art of acting the ability to play a character that is totally different from yourself? Shakespearen female character roles were all played by men since in the early days in England women were forbidden from being an actor. Just because and actor is gay doesn't mean they always have to do so and the same for straight.
A black actor playing a black character or a trans actor playing a trans character makes sense. But for an actor to play as a gay person or bisexual person should be fine. 🌈… It’s the way that gay person is portrayed that becomes the issue. Gay characters should be written by queer folk.
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Calling yourself "culturally queer" has to be the most Hollywood thing I've ever heard
@@Plut0kin What a ridiculous word salad you just spewed. Behind the stupidity I'm pretty sure you just called me homophobic which is hilarious since I'm gay
@@Plut0kin that's up there with the most ridiculous word salad I've seen in a while, but I'm pretty sure you called me homophobic which is hilarious considering I'm gay.
These idiots... He's closet gay or doesn't want to offend people who will RIP him in half and turn on him in two seconds.
Aye , them YOUR people who do that lol.
@@Plut0kinthe self hating gays really coming out of the woodwork in these comments. So much internalized homophobia.
@@shalashaska9946 Relax. This person is culturally queer as well. You can tell because the butthurt
As a gay man this is stupid. It’s acting! It’s a job. The actors on ER weren’t really surgeons. Daniel Radcliffe isn’t really a wizard lol. Like let’s focus on real issues. This is stipud.
I feel bad when people in your community and "allies" make problems where there ain't none which just gives the assholes who are already prejudiced more ammo :/
Now hold your gawtdayum horses. Daniel is for sure a wizard.
GASP WHAT YOU TELLING ME THEY WERENT DOCTORS ON SCRUBS??? THEY NEED TO ONLY HIRE REAL DOCTORS FOR FILMS AND TV 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂
Absolutely couldn’t of said it better myself my love x
@@cameronpritchett8300lmfao that was a funny comment lv lol xx
I am a gay actor. The idea that you have to be gay to play a gay role is absurd. That means that you’re not a good enough actor to do something that is not the truth you live in.
Some ppl some love to put others in box. Its like you have to be or act a certain way to be classified as that one thing. Its a way to sterotype others. They expect gay ppl to visible look and act a certain way so they think its wierd when u act straight. Same can be said of Straight actors.
No, but if your target audience is gay men and the media focus on gay romance as the central plot point, it's more sensible to have gay actors play gay characters. Look at Fellow Travelers and Looking, would those shows really work if straight dudes play the main role?
Look at brokeback mountain
@@matts5164brokeback mountain completely debunks his
@@matts5164Ofcourse having a straight person play a gay character works in an acting role, same as having a gay actor play a straight character, it's worked great hundreds of times in the past and I think it's insane that anyone should be getting flack for playing a role that they have both the look and talent to portray.
I’m a gay guy, and Darren Criss playing gay roles bothers me 0%!! For those who have criticized him and were culprits in driving him to this decision, check your double standards cuz I’m sure you had no complaints with gays playing straights. At the end of the day, if the actor is right for the part, then they should get it, plain and simple!!
Darren has been a huge ally for lgbtq+ community since his Starkid days, and I think it just all comes down to how that person portrays gay chracters in the show, and I think Darren really does it well.
Shut up, darling.
@@giraffe6856 shut up, dahling.
I was shocked when I found out Neil Patrick Harris, Barney Stinson himself, was gay
Ever heard of over compensating?
I think everyone has a degree of bisexuality but im bisexual so im gonna say that 😂 next subject
I mean it is called acting after all
He wasn't openly gay when he got that role. If so, he probably wouldn't have gotten it. Let that sink in.
@@cartergomez5390 not really
I'm pretty sure that all 3 of the gay roles he's been in are Ryan Murphy productions - it's not uncommon at all for certain actors or producers to want to work with the same actors time and again - so it's always been more of a "director's choice" thing, so the VERY GAY Ryan Murphy is the one who is responsible for this straight actor doing his gay roles.
Also, it's Hedwig and the Angry Inch.
He was in that Hollywood show on Netflix where he played a straight man and that was produced by Ryan Murphy also
People are seriously upset about this?
People really need to get a grip. Its called acting.
I agree, I'm not a professional actor but I do play rolling DND I act out as my characters. That doesn't mean I'm a 6-ft blue bunny
Thank you!!!!!! The best acting if he's NOT gay. So bizarre.
@@clusterchuck7346lol right! I play too. It’d be boring if we had to play as humans our age and gender every time 😅. People just make up things to get upset about.
He played 3 gay guys and not gay? Fair enough.
Wait, so Anthony Hopkins ISN'T actually a cannibowlstic cereal khiller, despite playing in silence of the lambs? 🤔 I'm actually in shock 😮😂, can't trust any actor these days 😤😭
Robert Downey junior has played atleast 10 fiction characters, yet RDJ is not fictional? Interesting….
Grow up
@@Lock484he killed cereal!??
@@rickirocks90210 yes, he drowned it in milk 😭
Let’s just all agree if the person is good for the role then that’s all that matters
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You're right. Like when white people used to play black. Or take it further back to when only men were allowed to act and played all the women characters. Real sound logic there.
@@balldaltthat’s just dumb. Gay is not a visible marginalized group. You can’t do “Gay face”
@@balldaltIf they're good, why not? They are ACTORS.
A guy is pretending to be something he's not to tell a story? That's the definition of ACTING.
Yet hes not comfortable with the role. Not all roles are made equally and not all actors should be expected or forced to do something they are not comfortable with.
@@sirvantanite1307 agreed.
@@sirvantanite1307 he said he is not uncomfortable were you not listening?
So...I went to the University of Michigan with Darren. We were in the same voice studio. He was a very empathetic and compassionate person, and I can totally see why he would make this choice. It may not be everyone's choice, but this is the guy who would sit in the back of masterclass with a nice thing to say about every student who sang in class that day. This is entirely in line with his personal character.
The most qualified actor should be able to play a role regardless of his sexuality. And Criss is an excellent actor
As someone who is apart of the community, it is 100% ok to be straight and play a gay character, especially if they are the best for the role.
I respect the hell out of any actor who can consistently and accurately play a sexuality they aren't. To be that talented, mature, and comfortable is what acting is about.
I'd watch Darren do anything.
Headwig and the angry INCH… not “itch” 😂😂
And Hedwig isn't gay!
Darren, just be yourself. You're awesome and a wonderful actor. 😊 from Connecticut...
It’s… acting… that’s his job… acting whatever role he’s given…
It’s called “acting” for a reason.
I think it's less that only gay actors should play gay characters and more that queer people should be included in the making of a queer story. Idc if it's the director, a consultant, the actors, casting, production, etc.
Most of his gay parts were in Ryan Murphy's creations, who happens to be openly gay and likes to work with the same people.
Agreed, it’s unfortunate. He’s clearly an ally & always has been. Cancel culture sucks.
He was Amazing in Versace !
It's Acting But everything is a issue in 2024 unfortunately 😂
Neil Patrick Harris played a full on womanizer for six years, and nobody said a thing. knowing good well, he was happily married to a man. But OK it’s wrong for a straight man to play a gay character.
Until gay actors are given fair consideration for straight roles, then, yes.
Go look at the number of gay actors who've been rejected for straight roles BECAUSE they are gay.
[Speaking as someone gay and Asian]
Should I also then be cool with Scarlett Johansson playing an Asian Woman in Ghost in the Shell? As cool as she is...
After all, when Wasian Actress like Merle Oberon (1936 Best Actress Nominee) passed as white for a long time, "and nobody said a thing"
There is a big difference between giving the opportunities & roles of a minority (e.g. Asian, LGBTQ+...) to the majority, and the majority giving minority actors more opportunity to work to help even out the field!
@@MichaelLee-uz6lv
Scarlett, like her antagonist in the film, played and Asian woman with amnesia IN A CAUCASIAN ROBOTIC BODY.
JUST like in the Manga or Japanime...
As it was confirmed YEARS AGO by the creator of the Manga... who happens to know best, and definitely better than the woke-mob.
The character was played by an Asian in the flashback.
Moral of the story. People that have an opinion about this probably aren’t doing much with their lives so they have time to care that he kissed another man like it matters who you kiss.
I definitely understand what he means by 'culturally queer' He means he has been surrounded and exposed to the queer subculture all of his life. Criss has never been away from queer culture because he was raised in San Fransisco and his parents ensured he was exposed to the vitality and diversity of the LBGTQ community . He was very fortunate I am a gay man who is not culturally queer because I lived in small rural towns and there was no internet or access in my day. I had to learn it all late in life.
It’s Glee, every role on there is a gay role
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But he plays gay character so welllll
I just started admiring this actor after listening to this. He just got all my respect
These people just want something to complain about. You can’t give in to them even once or they will try to control your entire life. They would be mad if straight actors refused to play gay roles and now they’re mad when they don’t refuse to as well. It’s ridiculous.
In pretty convinced stuff like this is some psyop run by journalism. I've never met another gay who actually cares about stuff like this.
I think its fine for him to play gay roles but I think the criticism comes from the fact that historically openly gay people have struggled for lead parts (I'm thinking of Rupert Everett off the top of my head) and then when gay roles were becoming more acceptable straight men were getting those roles too (Capote, Brokeback, Milk). As I say I think it's fine now but that might be where the criticism comes from.
You’re not taking work away from gay actors if you play a gay character, unless they had initially hired a gay guy to play the role then dropped him for someone more famous.
You’re doomed if you do, doomed if you don’t. But I also don’t think that his decision is NOT dumb; as an actor, he doesn’t want to be type cast and doing other challenges/other character is better for the resume. Just my 2 cents.
Despite this being stupid I respect the decision mostly because I'd just be tired of the constant questions and issues surrounding playing a character who is gay
Probably easier to just do straight roles
it’s honestly so sad watching this happen with other people as well. One sad example is Kit Conner playing Nick in heartstopper. Everyone called him out and hated on him, eventually forcing him to come out online. It’s so upsetting that people don’t focus on real world issues.
F the critics, he should do what he wants, but saying he's "culturally queer" is odd and sounds like appropriation.
Queer doesn't mean gay. It's a broad term. Unappropriationable . There are wayyy bigger fish to fry than that. You sound like a critic, so I'll take your initial advice.
@@UnderScoredd not a critic of lgbt at all, just the term he used. All fish can be fried. Chill out.
That part was a bit sus, but He still ok with me I think he should play more if he wants to.
@@OptimusPrimeribsYou so sure about that?! Can you fry… an anchovy?
@@Catherine.Dorian.yes, you can lmao.
If he does a good job, and isn't doing it to mock, it shouldn't matter.
So many gay actors don't get cast in straight roles because they are gay, so just mentioning a few actors that have doesn't make that point valid
Exactly. I mean, there have been gay actors and aspiring gay actors who've been discouraged from pursuing acting because they are gay even.
That is absolutely false on so many level
@@Amrfork Yeah that's why so many queer actors stay in the closet. Because they like it, not because they know they will still loose roles in this day an age.
If you consider yourself a "GAY actor" instead of an "ACTOR who happens to be gay", then YOU are the problem.
You are doing politics instead of acting.
If you try to be cast for a straight part but keep playing with the flamboyance of Simon in Kinky Boots, despite being told otherwise, then YOU are the problem.
You're supposed to become the part, NOT the other way around.
@@jean-mi1825 you are living in a vortex without considering context, history, prejudice and privillage. We are the some of our parts. Also, politics is part of everyone's daily lives if you think about it or not. Im just trying to be equitable and thinking about the realities of prejudice and discrimination that have historically taken opportunities away from marginalised people. If it's an even playing field it would be fine but it's not. This is going to be my last post about it. It's not my job to educate anyone.
If you only play roles that you embody, then you’re not acting, your being typecast. Acting is literally taking on roles other than yourself.
gay actors are just chocking themselves. If they say gay characters can only be played by someone who is gay, then they need to stop auditioning for straight character.
Recently,in the amazon Prime show hazbin Hotel,in episode 6,darren plays a character known as Saint peter,though he doesn't appear for long enough for him to have a canon sexuality,hes very flamboyant and everyone agrees hes gay
Its just a role...it's sad when we realize that society prolly harassed him to the point where he now feels the need to change things in his own life. This is an admirable and mature decision on his part. 💯
I like him as an actor and think he is adorable. It's too bad he was bullied for that. :(
It’s a few loud people that’s upset to give into them makes them even louder.
I don’t see how that’s a bad thing. He’s was great in Glee as Blaine, but now getting type casted in roles that could be going to ACTUAL gay men. I could never hate him because just having someone like him to even consider playing a gay role was good enough for men, let alone 3 times. Not many straight men will
do gay roles pretty much due to the accusations that everyone just assumes they are gay are bisexual, when they are portraying a character that is. Chris should have been asked if he was uncomfortable during that kiss with Lea, as well as any gay men that HAVE to play straight roles.
It's almost like the idea of Bi doesn't exist
That's one of the few common points that a lot of homophobic straights and straightphobic LGBTs have: they consider bi as a "GAY but still somehow in the closet" excuse...
I would bet anything that those offended are not even gay.
Try having a bio woman play a trans woman then remind them there is no difference a woman is a woman. See how that works.
Nice trap card
@@SplendidFellow ok care to explain? I know you won't but I'll give you the opportunity to give a cogent answer even though we both know you'll just call me a name and move on.
@@Kronos74No no I'm not calling you anything. I'm saying that you are clever.
@@Kronos74You gave a very smart answer. That was the meaning of the "trap card" reply...
@@SplendidFellow apologies wasn't familiar with the phrase and the brevity of it made it come off snarky in my mind.
It's not stupid, if he doesn't want to play another gay character it's his choice.
How can he be stealing rolls from anyone? He gets the roles because he's good at what he does. If they're good at what they do then they'll get hired and if they aren't, they don't get the part. That's how it works. There's no stealing it. If you're good, you get it.
So stop complaining and just be good at acting, not just being a stereotype.
They are actors they are supposed to act the roles that were given to them rather it be gay or straight. normally to start their career they would take whatever role that is given to them, and now that Darren is more well known, he could be able to choose whatever role he is willing to take if the producer, or Director is willing to give it to him.
Props to him and sticking to his values and not caving in to Hollywood 🎉
Wait there are straight actors?
😂
how has it been living under a rock your whole life?
It’s actually quite strange though if you think about it. You know how drama kids / theatre guys are strereotyped as gay? But Aren’t literally all actors just successful theatre kids yet there’s not many gay actors. It’s interesting to ponder
@@IsraelLlerena they are gay lol. They just hide it. Even someone like Hugh Jackman was known to frequent gay clubs in Australia before he found fame.
@@OptimusPrimeribsI think he's digging it, subbing for The Rock must feel like an honor 👀😏
😂😂😂
The equivalency between gay actors playing straight roles and straight actors playing gay roles ignores the massive systemic power imbalance between heteronormativity and queerness.
As a gay guy and indie filmmaker, I have zero issue of a str8 guy play8ng bc it's called acting. When casting the role goes to whoever does it best period
It's literally called "acting" if they can act straight or gay regardless of their sexuality and they're the best for the role they deserve it. I only believe in casting for appearance if they need to look like an established character .
Being mad for a Straight guy playing gay characters
Being fine qith a Gay guy playing straight characters
That's a double standard, and if you think otherwise, you're objectively wrong and I don't care what you want to say.
You are clueless. Many gay actors are rejected from CONSIDERATION for straight roles. It means that when they throw out names for suggestions on who may be right for the role physically, gay actors are often rejected at that stage. Rejected before they were informed of the role, rejected when they express interest for the role. No chance for trying out for the role.
@@jbak87 That wasn't my point. My point is that it's a double standard to be upset about a Straight Actor playing a Gay Character, but not vice versa.
Understand what my comment is about before you reply insulting me.
@@driveghost1996
You clearly have comprehension issues.
@@jbak87 YOU do because you thought I was talking about something almost completely different, when I was saying something was a double standard, and you took that as something else.
@@jbak87 YOU do because you thought I was talking about something almost completely different, when I was saying something was a double standard, and you took that as something else.
"it's INCH, not ITCH"
(literal line from the play, how ironic is that)
Well, look, I’ve never heard of this guy before and I’ve never seen anything he’s been in. So, I don’t have a dog in this fight.
But, I think, collectively, that we would all be pretty upset if they hired Chris Pine to star in a biopic about Martin Luther King, Jr. when he’s not Black. I know the Black community would lose its mind. And, there’s a mini-series called “Shardlake” that’s just out on Hulu that’s been adapted from a series of books. In the books, the main character is disabled and they actually got an actor with a similar disability to play Shardlake. Sure, they could have used a non-disabled actor and used prosthetics and CGI but I think it was nice that they used a differently-abled person.
So, let’s not act as if the viewing public doesn’t have boundaries we think actors shouldn’t cross when it comes to who should portray what on screen. Chris Pine might have the acting chops to play a great MLK - as long as you close your eyes. The second you open them, the illusion is shattered because he obviously doesn’t look the part.
So, what’s the difference between that and orientation? I mean, I definitely see what the differences are but maybe some gay people and others genuinely feel like that should be a boundary, too.
In the end, I don’t particularly agree with the people who are complaining about this guy playing gay characters but I think they have the right to be part of the conversation.
Yes should have voice in this debate. It's not debate. If yhink gay actor should be only ones to get gay parts then only straight actor get straight parts
He is incredibly handsome!
It’s what you do for the community to be a part of it. You can’t play a gay character and then be homophobic but the way he fought for our rights when very little straight people were is honorable
So... Plenty of people draw the line there... Its not unusual, odd, phobic or brave... Its normal.
Acting is acting. I worry more about what the writers and directors do with the character than the actor because typically they have them play stereotypes instead of normal people.
The issue isn't straight men playing gay roles its that those roles are being taken from queer people that aren't being given the same opportunity to play any other role that isn't LGBTQIA focused. That is where the problem lies. Gay people are pigeonholed into gay roles and then straight people are taking them. It is a problem of privilege (one that Darren Criss acknowledges) which makes sense for him not to take those roles anymore.
In a perfect world where true equality existed - yes, it would be a case of "come on, it's called acting", but we don't live in that world.
It's a matter of fact neil patrick harris played a gay man for the first twenty three years of his life
I agree that if there are gay men playing straight men than straight men as long as it is not character can play gay men. It's called acting acting requires that you be someone that you're not not that you come to work to play yourself
Just because you’re a gay man playing a gay man that doesn’t mean you’re playing yourself.
The reason why straight actors playing gay roles is controversial is because gay actors are usually rejected for EVEN CONSIDERATION for straight roles. Many gay actors have been outright rejected for straight roles simply for being gay.
By that logic, gay men should be most fit for gay roles. Instead, so many gay roles(prestigious ones at that) end up going to straight actors.
There is unevenness is how roles are being doled out to gay actors.
@@jbak87 Having a background in theater. I would say to you that that is not always the case. Gay actors are not always refused for straight rolls as there are a lot people within the LGBTQIA+ community playing straight rolls. And if we begin to put constraints like his on casting it will actually begin to take us backwards.
We would could then say that Americans can’t play Britts and Britts can’t play Americans, even though almost every major Oscar winning American role has been played by a British actors recently. We go back to people of color not being cast for rolls that don’t specify race. All of these come into question. But, I stand on it is still called acting, which means you have to be able to convincingly portray someone outside of yourself. When I look at the role that Darren Criss played as Andrew Cunanan there was so much more to that than the fact that the man was gay. One he looked so much like him, it was very creepy. In addition to that he was able to bring forth just the mental psyche of a well-known killer and play that role undeniably convincingly to the point that I’m not sure who else would’ve been able to play it gay or straight.
@@jbak87 it’s not as political as you think. It’s because straight actors are more likely to say yes and do things that would cross their sexual boundaries. While gay men find it much more uncomfortable and difficult to do so. Back when Hugh Hefner was alive I’ve met straight men who said they’d have sex with him for $500 million and I’ve met gay men who have said that they wouldn’t kiss a woman for any price because it would feel to uncomfortable & weird
as a gay man, idc. props to him for being comfortable in the role!
When gay for pay goes wrong 😅
It's called acting, pretending to be something you're not. It's like saying gay people can't play straight characters
I could see this to not get type casted cause three is kinda a lot not because he’s straight but he prob just wants to explore other character types/ stories.
Some people are forgetting what “acting” means .
The angry Itch? LOL l!
He was so good as hedwig
Acting is acting! The whole point is being someone you're not. I've not watched movies/series in the last 12 years because very low intelligent stuff like this. I don't miss it either.
He didn't wanna be typecast anymore. Fair enough
The criticism DOES make sense, because there are a million straight roles and about 10 gay roles. So gay actors have no choice but to fight over the few roles available or try to act straight so they can get straight roles (which is extremely hard if you're publicly gay) whereas straight men can come in and take some of those few gay roles without any issues, especially if they're attractive.
I mean straight men kiss each other all the time. Andrew Garfield and Stephen Colbert's kiss comes to mind
Or the otherwise mostly homophobics soccer players each and every time they score a goal ! 😂
Isn’t the whole point of acting to be someone that isn’t you😂
I didn't know he was straight
Anyone who has understood theater would know men would dress as women commonly in plays and act as women since women weren’t allowed. The point of acting is to behave as someone you’re not
Ridiculous. He’s an actor for heavens sake. Just more virtue signalling. Does that mean a gay man can’t play a straight man? These terms are now so redundant. Just be believable.
Neil Patrick Harris is shaking his head
Darren Criss is straight in the same way that Rock Hudson was.
He’s married to a woman he dated for ten years and they have two kids.
There is no such thing as "culturally queer" lmao
Its called being metrosexual.
I applaud him. I don't mind straight actors playing gay roles if they're better than the competition, but I can imagine he is tired of breaking hearts 😂
the funny part is WE NEVER SAW HIM AGAIN AFTER HE DECLARED THIS😭
He's an Actor by chosen profession...
There is Always someone or some group who find disagreement in everything...this cultural appropriations is just another red herring plain and simple.
And totally understand his stance on being culturally gay.
Speaks volumes about his parents and growing up
He judges people by their character not some lable that others assign..
Applause to him.
gay writers are the most important things for gay representation not the gay actors
As a gay guy, I find it so stupid for anyone to complain about a straight guy playing gay roles because simply put, he's an actor playing a role, something tells me the people offended are "woke" straight people and a few gays with a serious case of victimitess....
NEVER SAY NEVER !!!! ESPECIALLY WHEN THE PHONE STOP RIINGING 😉😉😉
As with most forms of representation and the debate surrounding it I feel the “gay people play straight characters” argument is a common appeal to fairness that doesn’t quite understand the issue.
It is one thing to be a member of a group that feels unseen and have to act as someone different, but it is something entirely different to be a member of the “in crowd” as it were, acting as a member of that unseen group. It gives little real representation of that group but is instead an outsiders interpretation of them.
>inb4 people start seething because gay people exist.
So, gay actors fought to not be cast only in gay roles, now you want them to be cast exclusively in gay roles?
He’s being type casted
And he was never heard from again
But honestly he won an EMMY for his role in Versace. He’s not stealing anything from anyone he was just clearly the best choice for the role
"Honestly"
Y'all always say this but he has been busy since Versace ended. I'm not sure why everyone assumes his career took a hit.
He simply doesn't want to be type-cast.
This is a bruh moment
I wonder if they realize the point of acting is to pretend to be someone you’re not
Isn't the art of acting the ability to play a character that is totally different from yourself? Shakespearen female character roles were all played by men since in the early days in England women were forbidden from being an actor. Just because and actor is gay doesn't mean they always have to do so and the same for straight.
A black actor playing a black character or a trans actor playing a trans character makes sense. But for an actor to play as a gay person or bisexual person should be fine. 🌈… It’s the way that gay person is portrayed that becomes the issue. Gay characters should be written by queer folk.
Woah woah woah…you’re telling me…an actor played a character that wasn’t himself 🤯