When they know you’re done, they feel rejected and it causes a narcissistic injury. They will then smear your name and try to destroy you. Because now you’re invalidating their false reality.
@@LaureneSmith-s4cI've dealt with many highly narcissistic, or worse, individuals, since I was born and I've found that some don't do any of the above, especially when they can easily get replacements! Of course, a lot of them do the cruel things Lisa Romano mentioned though and some continue for a period of time, then stop completely. It can depend on the type of "relationship," as well as the length of time, but it's best to be extremely careful and prepared, just in case. ❤
"They don't understand that the way they've behaved is the reason you say NO MORE!" Truer words were never spoken. Also, they rewrite the story. If you run it through the fact checker you'll see they are absolutely delusional! In a relationship with someone who is keeping you at arms length! Whew!Thank you for this video. So on point!
Because you’re just a secondary supply mom from whom they’re trying to separate & they see it as their opportunity to chance to reject you first so that they can finally become an individual
What if you just don't care what they are going to do after? You are so sick of them that you don't care what people will see you after the narcissist will trash your name, and doing all the things bad in the book? Let me tell you something: the best time of my life is when I had the power not to care about all the gaslighting, blaming, blameshifting and all the rest. I had the power to say the truth and not to care. It was the night that I had the best sleep and beeing proud of me. The narcissist asked me how I can go to sleep after I have told all that was on my hart. In my mind.. oh, very well. Because I just don't care anymore!!!
Well mine planted a stolen gun in my house while I was at work! About 6:30 that evening she came busting thru my door that was locked and started tearing my house up yelling and screaming with her 3 boys 11 and younger. Then she called the law and said I threatened to kill them! I would have been justified if I threatened her but I would never threaten them boys. I still love and miss them lil dudes. I didn't even get to say goodbye to them in all the chaos. I was arrested and had a high bond then attorney fees and facing 8 to 15 yrs in prison. I was exonerated a little over a year later and they didn't do anything to her. I proved she planned the whole thing and they still tried to get me to take a plea bargain. Didn't matter who was innocent or who was guilty to the prosecutor! She wasn't happy at all! I don't leave my truck anywhere without video surveillance on it and I got 2 dogs that won't let nobody near my house...
She did black magic on me I lost everything house 🏠 🚗 🚘 jobs ect ect. Death spells nearly died. She went to those dark practitioner's and pay money 💲 to kill and destroy me 😅
This is why my focus is on clearing my debts and living on my own. I know it is a trauma response but I don't care. It's been months of learning what my family is. I get it. I don't care to integrate with anyone now. I just want to be left the hell alone.
They also know how consciences work. They know THEY don't have one, but they count on OURS to question (with our beautifully kind conscience) "AM I being fair to him?" (Those half-truths, blatant lies, gaslighting crap etc.) Because at heart, we WANT to believe people. They count on us looking for their innocence by us turning against ourselves. No effin more! Cheers. Christi 🇨🇦
They are so ‘tuned out’ from their own self-sabotaging habits (and the effects and consequences of those toxic habits)…they claim to be ‘blindsided’ when you finally have no choice but to file for divorce…in a bid to save yourself from any more of their gaslighting, control and disrespect. You will never see them finally show their true character more clearly…than when you finally decide - to leave. And you will never be more certain, that you made the right move…getting out.
Your husband sounds exactly like mine. He was caught off guard when I said I was all done. Of course the lovebombing began. But I had already been too far gone. It was as though I was on the outside looking in….I could finally see it clearly. It is really awful.
When I rejected my narcissist husband, he accused me of “not feeling the love from me” as his excuse to avoiding me and always playing video games to escape and no longer greeting me when I came home! He twisted his lack of showing any love toward me back around on ME as if I was the problem! 😲😧 I wanted to just smack him!! I rejected him and his acting like a single man all the time with no connection to the marriage, the house, me except only when he wanted something! Totally aloof! I bit back alright! Finally drew the line on his distance and mental insulting abuse! Best thing I did was throw him out!
@theresariley1426 My daughter had a restraining order against her ex boyfriend (a 2 month relationship), and he shot her several times while she was at a stoplight. He was stalking her for a year! She's now paralyzed. Those people do these things.. I hope you're free now.. 💕
I've been cyber stalked by my siblings 2300 mi away across the country for 8 plus years now. I keep changing my phone number and my email addresses and they won't stop. Narcissism is just a new polite word for PSYCHOPATH!
Just got messaged on a second phone that he has found new person and is very happy with her. After 1.5 y of abuse. Because i already saw through all. Thank u lisa❤
Thank you. I had this ex blocked for over a year I forgot about him and when I got a new phone the other day I didn’t remember to block him again and the messages started pouring in about what a bad person I am and how I don’t deserve any respect. Over a year of no contact and he still mad. This stuff is real, Lisa knows her stuff, on the bright side I’ve been reintroduced to my healing journey and am listening to Lisa again to reinforce my healing. Thank you!!!🙏
I rejected my grad advisor’s advances then I had to endure them making fun of me in front of others at my last meeting with them. I went “shutty shutty” for the remainder of my time there and it helped. No matter how many times they tried to offer me favors and compliments, I avoided them like the plague. Had to restart a new networking circle since then but at least it’s free of their toxicity.
Just left a 28 year marriage to a narc. One of the many signs I saw is when he yelled at me and said, (I NEED YOU TO TELL ME I'M GREAT). Now that I filed, I am dealing with revenge, punishment and threats to "expose me" and a smear campaign. Say a prayer for me please.
All this info is sooo validating. My ex threatened divorce (and suicide!) for years… I finally said “you got it!” Nobody knew what was going on in my marriage. I protected him. Yes he tried to smear me with everyone. They all got tired of it and realized he was very disturbed.
Your videos have helped me a lot with you ,I recently became aware of the world behind My back was so bad I ll get over this, but it real bad when you give trust respect, and love ,and they crushed it All , I will have my eyes wide open , and never over look anything again thnk you for your help ,
Most Narcissist ask a GUESSTION .... Not a Question ... That leaves the narrative open to spin in there direction.Thank you Lisa for putting in the peices of these undecrible personalities...
Lisa - you were my first teacher and I listened to others as well and learned a lot! I still come back to you! You are the dearest caring therapist and I keep learning and reflecting. I never want to let my guard down now! I look for narcissism in everyone and shockingly find it in a lot of people! 🥺😩
When I don't react. When I don't give him the reaction he's looking for ...im automatically labeled as being emotionless, not human.. uncaring. but then when i do react.. he tells me..i need to calm down. im the insane one.
Ok… I just have to say here… as I do so many times… to people who believe narcissists all come from abusive & traumatic childhoods. This is NOT the case. My abusers grew up being spoiled and, in some cases, told how wonderful they are. These were NOT abused children. They were/are spoiled entitled brats. They **choose** to abuse their targets and they enjoy it. Period. So no pity for the poor mistreated narcissists out there. These individuals have been vicious to me… even violent. They love to play mind games and do harm. And they do NOT come from an abusive traumatic background. I will go so far as to say these individuals are evil in some cases. That’s right… I said EVIL. No one mistreated them. They are not victims. They are EVIL. The Bible talks about these individuals and the state of the world when Satan is trying to gather his army and take over here on Earth. Narcissists and psychopaths are his army. They are his legion. And no… I’m not a religious fanatic. I’m simply stating the obvious of what’s happening to our world. Narcissists are not victims. They **choose** to do evil. They enjoy it. I, on the other hand, come from a very traumatic and abusive childhood (caused by my narcissistic abusers). I was neglected & abandoned by my mother as a baby. When we reconnected (after my cancer diagnosis… late stage 3 ovarian cancer) she has been very nasty to me. She’s your typical self absorbed, selfish, narc female. She couldn’t be bothered with her only child having metastatic cancer, flipping the script and making me out to be the problem while playing the victim of her abusive ungrateful child. It’s the DARVO technique like so many narcs use against their targets. My dad has abused me emotionally, physically and sexually. The sexual abuse was during my childhood and he continued inappropriate behavior when I was a teenager. He regularly tore me down and I was made to feel less than zero. He will still try to do it if I don’t cut him off and protect myself… so the emotional abuse has continued into adulthood. I’m now 53 and he still tries to dominate and control me. I also had 2 vicious stepmothers who are/were emotionally and physically abusive. They both continued smearing & slandering me into adulthood. One of them died several years ago and she was literally slandering me with terminal cancer the last year of her life. For whatever their reason, they hate me. Now a vicious half sister has been groomed and taught to treat me like dirt too. None of these people had bad childhoods. They were/are spoiled rotten brats. (I am the one who had an abusive childhood.) NOT my narc abusers. I refuse to make excuses for narcissists’ evil behavior. They know **exactly** what they are doing and they **enjoy** it. The more malignant narcissists further along the spectrum… as well as psychopaths/anti social types… are Satan’s army. Make no mistake about that. They are NOT all formerly abused children. Period.
I agree. It is a choice. If it weren't, all abused children would become narcissists. And I know plenty of people who were abused and still managed to overcome their trials and become beautiful people. Matthew 19:29-30
My mother conceived out of wedlock, and married my father before I was born. She divorced him before I was two years of age. She has never had a good word of the father I have never known. She has said terrible things about him, and I have realised I am a very bad reminder of my father. She has treated me very differently to my half sisters, and thanks to you Lara, I am seeing my world through very different eyes now. Your messages have offered me so much strength, and I have made choices I could have made a long time ago. Thank you so much for your teachings. I am so grateful to you ❤
I remember stumbling on you in 2016 after realising for the first time my ex was a narcissist. I have continued to attract different types of them but I have the strength to leave every time. Now I’m ready to be alone. This last month dealing with multiple narcissists at the same time, only to be abused for rejecting multiple men in one week… I’m done. All the good men are taken and all the men my age on the apps are still single for a reason. Malignant, Prosocial, covert, diagnosed sociopathic who SAed his sister for decades (as I later found out). And I’m fine with a cat, a sewing machine and a garden from here on out .
My ex narc is currently using my adult son as a flying monkey. He's attempting to damage my relationship with my child. I've been almost 5 months no contact with him, so he's finding a way to punish me. Sickening.
That's exactly what my husband of 43 years on drugs is doing to me. Crippling me . He took my family away, and now wont let me leave. I cant get. To the dmv to renew my drivers license, doctor and need to badly, dentist, optometrist, to get prescription glasses. He's trapped me. He's crazy.
❤thank you Lisa. I’m going thru this right now. My husband left me early this morning and he started hurling insults in my face. I said please don’t talk like that. I want peace please. And I said don’t believe every thought that comes in your head. He left So I’m scared now but got grounded. Thanks again Lisa Keep up your good work!!!❤
This is where I am right now, she discarded me and went to go stay on property she acquired a couple years ago with her oldest daughter, I get as needed communication,and I'm really feeling great because the put downs and the narcissistic treatment are gone too. You nailed it, and I feel things are starting to fall in place for me like I once had.
I moved 450 miles away from my parents at age 18. Now I'm 44, my parents are in their 80s, and my NM expects me to uproot my entire life to move back to my hometown to take care of them. It hasn't even crossed her mind to think about what *I* might want or what might be good for *ME* or that maybe the way she treats me is a factor in our rocky relationship. She actually thinks that--after everything she's done and said to me--I'm going to rescue her. I can tell she's worried because I'm rejecting her. She's a grown adult with money, she can figure it out herself. I'd like to say to her "With the way you treat me, what did you expect?" But we all know that the Narc can't comprehend topics beyond their own selfish needs. One of the WORST reasons to have children: so that they make you happy and will take care of you when you're elderly. Especially if you're American, you know this isn't likely to happen. So don't have children for selfish reasons; it'll most likely backfire on you.
Why have you not cut off all contact with them? Why do you allow them to have the ability to contact you? If you moved away and still have contact, you've left the door open for their abuse.
I received flowers, clothes, my favorite candy, snacks, he was doing the dishes, folding the clothes, talking about what we were going to do, down the road, I’m just so beautiful, He just loves me so much, I just mean the whole world, to him I’m he’s everything, he will just die, without me, he can’t believe, he lost me over nothing, he would never cheat or lie everyone knows, you’re wrong. Exhausting
Wow really good information Lisa! My parents sided with my husband too. It was so weird. What’s really strange is so did my siblings. This love bombing thing has happened the whole time I been married. Just wish I had got out years ago…I listen to you everyday and feel so different. I actually like myself. I stay away from unhealthy people. I am even trying to go on a trip by myself.
I'm very lonely without him. There were good times 😢 I don't understand how I can feel so much pain at the loss of someone who hurt me over and over again
It’s the cognitive dissonance- RUclips it =knowledge is power. In short, their psyc abuse causes us to be addicted to the highs and lows (which also causes you to ruminate). It’s a vicious cycle that makes it much harder to break than your typical break up. - keep learning and keep practicing believing in you, & your body.
I so much appreciate this. My marriage and divorce was unbelievably painful. I didn't come to know about narcissism until I was well into the divorce and shell-shocked. You describe the process all so eloquently.
Hi, it’s taken me 14 years to discover much of what you’ve said. I can relate to most of your information. A 18 year relationship ended suddenly but now I see many things I put up with or accepted. I am still learning more each time I watch posts like this - can’t thank you enough for your explanation of co-dependent style, now know I fit this style and learn more how to learn and change. Even if at 73 the chances of an another relationship is slim. X ps my ex he will never be self aware enough to change - now married for the third time - I was number two. Thank you again I now feel much better - understanding is key!
Thank you so much Lisa for putting things into perspective. I had a similar situation where my narcissist mother and my ex-husband were calling each other during my divorce because she said he needed support to. Now I know it was all triangulation and my mother also does it with my brother to put a wedge between us. My father was also a narcissistic alcoholic that I've had no contact with for many years
Mine literally identifies as having the spirit of a vampire and noted all of the traits he’s had from his pre-teens until now (in his 30s) that are vampiric in nature (obsessed w/Dracula and vampirism and the history, his sharp teeth, being nocturnal, energy vamping tactics, amongst other elements associated with them). I’ve known him since we were both 12-13 and he just unmasked and revealed his true spirit after 20 years at the end of last year. Thought he was my ride-or-die and told myself for the past 20 yrs that I wouldn’t want to continue living w/o him. But now that I know the true spirits of people with high levels of these narc traits I can’t stop thinking he was planted in my life so early on to break my spirit to the point that I’d take myself out of this world and fully extinguish my light at this very point in time. I’m so shaken to my core with this connection (longest standing one in my life), how dark his spirit has slowly turned over the years, and how everything has panned out. People mention spiritual warfare often and I’m wondering how deep does this run if this formed so early on in my life to reach this culmination 💀 (so sorry for the tangent. It’s still pretty fresh and I had to comment on the Dracula reference in case anyone relates)
Thank you so much Miss Lisa Romano for all your hard work, healing and kindness. It’s wonderful to see people doing the introspective work & helping others. It’s helped me prepare .
I'm amazed at how well and thoroughly you understand and can explain this personality disorder. I only wish the court system and attorneys are required to understand, recognize, and make appropriate decisions in terms of custody with this information. The court system, on a daily basis, places children in the hands of these sick ppl. The court complains about how busy and backed up they are. Perhaps they'd have a lot less cases and ppl returning if they addressed the problem at its core. By placing children in the care of a narcissist produces more narcissists 5, 10, 15, 20 etc. Years from now. I sat in court for an entire day and it is like an assembly line of narcissistic ppl weaponizing the justice system to hurt ppl to get what they want. Many cases I witness lack the evidence and typically get dismissed. However, the narcisstic accuser gets away with their behavior without any punishment whatsoever by blatantly lying on police reports. This emboldens them to do it over and over. I guess it makes money for the court system and their attorney friends. Not all cases get dismissed. Some narcissists achieve their goal and the court places full custody of beautiful children in their hands. Its truly heartbreaking. Men and women can both be narcissists. But in court, from what I've seen, is mostly women being the accuser, going this route, and most times winning. In speaking with attorneys, they referred to me as a unicorn for fighting for my child. They say, most times, the male knows the courts majority of times side with the woman and the man walks away. Think about how many good fathers are removed from their childs life bc of the corrupt enabling system we call family court. The big question is, why are so many narcissists being created and how are they typically utilizing the sameplayback? Are they aware there doing it or do they believe their lies? I know there are different types and levels of narcissists, but almost always, they act similarly when using fabricated domestic violence, custody battles, and divorce proceedings.
I think there is a severe lack of acknowledgement that women can be abusers. When I worked in the emergency room, one time a man brought in a little girl for bruises all over her body. The social worker immediately called the police on him, accusing him of abuse. Turns out, it was the mom. The child had pooped in the bathtub, and the mother beat her black and blue. :( The boyfriend brought her to the E.R. by himself. They called the mother to come, and when she came, she ADMITTED ANGRILY that her daughter deserved it because she pooped in the bathtub. That social worker never even apologized to the boyfriend for accusing him of the abuse. HE WAS THE ONE WHO BROUGHT THE CHILD TO THE E.R. He was a quiet, soft-spoken black man. :( I pity the men who fall for these abusive women. I pity the children that are forced to stay with delusional witches like her.
So glad that you dodged the bullet. Your X showed his hand. Cripple you so you would stay with him!! Where is the logic or the love in that. A normal person in spite of the hurt and feelings you are going through, has no choice but to leave. I left and climbed out of to.
Hi Lisa. I am grateful The Universe sent me a link to your video. I've been working with a "Consciousness" workshop conductor for more than 18 years who, after I rejected her has humiliated me in circle and tortured me publicly and privately. I knew it was because I had taken steps to leave the relationship but did not realize the extent and the predictable insane behavior that would ensue. Your video and wisdom is so timely. Thank you.
My Mom now has dementia because of her husband being a overt narc. My husband has complained for forty years aboutu the man and mow is the same if mot worse. My mom was a teacher for 36 years and after she retired. It got worse.her job kept her semi sane.
I hope you can get away. The other thing is to find ways as much as possible to minimize contact with her, and ideally to spend some time with kind, safe, forthright people if you can. I've known people who relied on going to the library a lot, for example. But if you can spend time with people who are the opposite of your mom, it helps with healing and with learning how healthy people interact. Sorry you are having to cope with this.
Go and start doing exercise in a fitness or taking long walks to free your mind. Do not tell her anything about it at all. And do little steps and changes to separate more and more. Cover it will banal reasons towards her, boring reasons and uninteresting reasons for her. Invent. And why, just to collect your self again and garner your energy for bigger steps. Maybe moving out without warning one day and without sharing with her your plans, if she is a nasty narcissist, to protect yourself from her. And maybe going to therapy then to help you recover and to heal from the abuse, after the move out, she caused you. Just some thoughts and ideas to your comment. Good luck.
I can relate! My mom still puts me through hell! I'm 61 now and finally see what the real deal is. I always thought it was me the crazy one, the too sensitive one, the blacksheep and so on...grey rocking is saving my sanity. I could go on and on but just know that setting strong boundaries and grey rocking saved my life. She is 85 and not in good health. Karma!
This video is fantastic, I very much enjoyed listening. I'm extremely happy how the current awareness of this narcissism disorder epidemic is broadly evolving to the high level of communication that it is. Well done Lisa you are doing great work. I pray for many blessings to come your way 🙏
Thank you so much for this video Dr. Lisa. Ohh my goodness this has answered so many questions for me. I now understand my biological father who is a covert and overt narcissist depending on the time. I am so thankful I set boundaries and got out of the cycle of up and down and round and round. But getting the why and the how is so insightful. God bless you abundantly. I get to understand so much and move forward with such gladness
I can completely relate to everything you went through Lisa. I managed to move out in September last year. He blamed me for embarrassing him to all our neighbors and friends for leaving me.
He told me, he loves me. Afer i called the sheriff for help the other day. I was supposed to call them off after hearing that. I didnt. Im not stupid. He hasnt said that in years.
Thank you for this video.. Punishment is a sure thing! He Used our only child as a pawn. 23 years of his abuse. I'm free now,, but with a price. My daughter is not talking to me, this has broken my heart. He mocked, discredited me, minimized, gaslit,, all of it. She saw, this and she learned this was acceptable. So covert!! He still tries to talk negative about me. I called his bluff too!! He never thought I would leave. I'm ADHD diagnosed and was a as kid. I also had both parents that had addictions and mental health problems. My dad committed suicide when I was 7. I don't have addictions and I have been in therapy from an early age. However,, being adhd and having trauma,, I constantly questioned myself through my marriage. Is it me? Am I being drama? Am i too sensitive? No!!! I wasn't!! He is covert!! As for my ex.. he had been abandoned as a child by a parent. And Raised by someone that didn't think he was his father. He never had therapy of any kind. He constantly tried to make me the problem. He is known by his friends that he is a control freak. He has found someone that feeds his ego, she needs him. I feel like I failed my daughter by staying too long and I definitely fell in the codependent hole.
I’m married to a narc for 44 years. 😢. Since his retirement 5;years ago, I know now he is a cold mean person. Today I told him the only way I will converse with him is by text / email.
"What did you do?". " I've seen enough". Yep, so have I. Right from the start, she said she didn't want to work on herself, so I'm not giving up on her as a human being. Some jobs actually require someone with relationship issues. That way they can focus on the task before them. Patience is a virtue, fools rush in where Angels fear to tread. Think about love and be grateful for something, you are worth it. (what am I channelling Stuart Smalley?)
My 86 yr old stepmom is still at it 😖 😢 We celebrate Fathers Day. My birthday either falls on Fathers Day or within a day. But we dont celebrate my birthday. Then her birthday is the following week and we celebrate her birthday. She goes out of her way to exclude me, with a smile on her face. Then takes pics of the events i wasnt invited to and sends them to me as in "ha ha look what you missed." Its been going on for decades and now thaf im midlife and my eyes are open, it's making my head spin. I feel like I'm going crazy. The past 8 months I've tried to distance myself (as we live 3 minutes apart), mind you, I moved 2000 miles away only for them to follow me. And most think she's the sweetest little lady, but thats because they see her once a year or less.
Do not overtly reject them especially if you have kids with them. They will ruin you life for as long as they can to punish you and use the kids against you. Disappear or make it about you but do not be honest with them.
I'm a man, and I've been beaten down by my wife. I left her when I just couldn't take it anymore. Then I got back with her, to try and make it work. We are divorced now, finally. But it still hurts so bad. I really loved who I thought she was. She just wasn't that person
Bèenstudy8ngthe disorder for 10 years and i cannot unlearn what i have learned. There are lots of them and i seem to attract them like flys . Im recovering from a stroke and im pretty sure it from the abuse from thelast 2 relationships i had . Blessed i still have my freedom. Thank doctor for your help.
This was a very educational video. You were amazing for the way you explained in depth about who a narcissist is, and what their motives are in relationships. Whether it's with a family member, a lover, their children, or a friend. They are users and they hate to be told no. Thank you 👍👏👏👏I'm going to tell all of my family and friends about your channel
I needed to see this! My female ex narc is up to her toxic ways again! 2 years after me leaving her….(happens every few months like clock work) My phone has the unrecognizable numbers showing up again! Asking for someone else, yet I know who it is! Even told her! I know who this is! It’s like a game, to her! So pathetic, so toxic, so unhealthy! 🤦😳😊👍🏻
My girlfriend keeps accusing me of cheating and ordinary friends want me and vice versa she discards me then comes back as she pleases I finally stood up to her and blocked her with no contact she keep calling no caller ID as we speak 🗣️ Enough is Enough ☹️😢
Lisa you are awesome, really helping me. Dr. Ramani is good as is Les Carter and Sam Vaknin. But you have your own angle on this topic which is very important.
Lisa you're so beautiful. Woops -- you're happily married!! Nah, but here's the deal: your wisdom is just completely awesome and I learn so much from you. Thank you!
I have been with one for 5 years and we are breaking up again it's hard for me but I'm going to try to not too contact Her at all this time and thank you.
ok..... so what do you do if the relationship with the NPD is going nowhere, is hurting you, but you have a 10 year old child? If you can, for the most part, maintain peace in the house and keep the relationship functional, should you stick it out until the child is past their formative years?
When they know you’re done, they feel rejected and it causes a narcissistic injury. They will then smear your name and try to destroy you. Because now you’re invalidating their false reality.
Do they eventually stop?
And "VALUING" yourself!!
@@LaureneSmith-s4cIf you give it enough time possibly!!
@@LaureneSmith-s4cI've dealt with many highly narcissistic, or worse, individuals, since I was born and I've found that some don't do any of the above, especially when they can easily get replacements!
Of course, a lot of them do the cruel things Lisa Romano mentioned though and some continue for a period of time, then stop completely. It can depend on the type of "relationship," as well as the length of time, but it's best to be extremely careful and prepared, just in case. ❤
They stop when they are dead. Even if you due before them. The next supply will be triangulated wit the dead old supply. Very scary situation.
They take advantage of your kindness and empathy and use it against you.
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"They don't understand that the way they've behaved is the reason you say NO MORE!" Truer words were never spoken. Also, they rewrite the story. If you run it through the fact checker you'll see they are absolutely delusional! In a relationship with someone who is keeping you at arms length! Whew!Thank you for this video. So on point!
Because you’re just a secondary supply mom from whom they’re trying to separate & they see it as their opportunity to chance to reject you first so that they can finally become an individual
Well said. Praise God for these online therapy secessions
Amen I agree totally!!@@mitzicrowder2186
These people are monsters! I really love your content. Thank you Lisa!
What if you just don't care what they are going to do after? You are so sick of them that you don't care what people will see you after the narcissist will trash your name, and doing all the things bad in the book? Let me tell you something: the best time of my life is when I had the power not to care about all the gaslighting, blaming, blameshifting and all the rest. I had the power to say the truth and not to care. It was the night that I had the best sleep and beeing proud of me. The narcissist asked me how I can go to sleep after I have told all that was on my hart. In my mind.. oh, very well. Because I just don't care anymore!!!
Well mine planted a stolen gun in my house while I was at work! About 6:30 that evening she came busting thru my door that was locked and started tearing my house up yelling and screaming with her 3 boys 11 and younger. Then she called the law and said I threatened to kill them!
I would have been justified if I threatened her but I would never threaten them boys. I still love and miss them lil dudes. I didn't even get to say goodbye to them in all the chaos.
I was arrested and had a high bond then attorney fees and facing 8 to 15 yrs in prison.
I was exonerated a little over a year later and they didn't do anything to her.
I proved she planned the whole thing and they still tried to get me to take a plea bargain.
Didn't matter who was innocent or who was guilty to the prosecutor! She wasn't happy at all!
I don't leave my truck anywhere without video surveillance on it and I got 2 dogs that won't let nobody near my house...
She did black magic on me I lost everything house 🏠 🚗 🚘 jobs ect ect. Death spells nearly died. She went to those dark practitioner's and pay money 💲 to kill and destroy me 😅
This is why my focus is on clearing my debts and living on my own. I know it is a trauma response but I don't care. It's been months of learning what my family is. I get it. I don't care to integrate with anyone now. I just want to be left the hell alone.
Same I feel like myself and god knows the truth… I don’t care at all what anyone else thinks. That is very powerful.
Are you empathy impaired?
They also know how consciences work.
They know THEY don't have one, but they count on OURS to question (with our beautifully kind conscience) "AM I being fair to him?"
(Those half-truths, blatant lies, gaslighting crap etc.)
Because at heart, we WANT to believe people.
They count on us looking for their innocence by us turning against ourselves.
No effin more!
Cheers.
Christi 🇨🇦
Yes, and turning against our values to pacify them.
They are so ‘tuned out’ from their own self-sabotaging habits (and the effects and consequences of those toxic habits)…they claim to be ‘blindsided’ when you finally have no choice but to file for divorce…in a bid to save yourself from any more of their gaslighting, control and disrespect. You will never see them finally show their true character more clearly…than when you finally decide - to leave. And you will never be more certain, that you made the right move…getting out.
Your husband sounds exactly like mine. He was caught off guard when I said I was all done. Of course the lovebombing began. But I had already been too far gone. It was as though I was on the outside looking in….I could finally see it clearly. It is really awful.
When I rejected my narcissist husband, he accused me of “not feeling the love from me” as his excuse to avoiding me and always playing video games to escape and no longer greeting me when I came home! He twisted his lack of showing any love toward me back around on ME as if I was the problem! 😲😧 I wanted to just smack him!! I rejected him and his acting like a single man all the time with no connection to the marriage, the house, me except only when he wanted something! Totally aloof! I bit back alright! Finally drew the line on his distance and mental insulting abuse! Best thing I did was throw him out!
I had a lifetime of this . I’m 43 and now free .
Congratulations ❤🙌🎉 I'm making my plan❤ is it as good and peaceful as I think it's going to b ?🤞😊
@ only gets better 😊💜
I am currently going through this, gangstalking, monitoring, smear campaign, you need that resilience not to fall for their ways
I totally understand I’ve gone through it too. I’m still being stalked now.
Going thought it now as well.
Same here - multiple GPS trackers on my car, put recording devices in my car, stalking, breaking restraining order - it SUCKS.
@theresariley1426
My daughter had a restraining order against her ex boyfriend (a 2 month relationship), and he shot her several times while she was at a stoplight. He was stalking her for a year! She's now paralyzed. Those people do these things.. I hope you're free now.. 💕
I've been cyber stalked by my siblings 2300 mi away across the country for 8 plus years now. I keep changing my phone number and my email addresses and they won't stop. Narcissism is just a new polite word for PSYCHOPATH!
"The blood bank is CLOSED!" 😂
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Just got messaged on a second phone that he has found new person and is very happy with her. After 1.5 y of abuse. Because i already saw through all. Thank u lisa❤
Thank you. I had this ex blocked for over a year I forgot about him and when I got a new phone the other day I didn’t remember to block him again and the messages started pouring in about what a bad person I am and how I don’t deserve any respect. Over a year of no contact and he still mad. This stuff is real, Lisa knows her stuff, on the bright side I’ve been reintroduced to my healing journey and am listening to Lisa again to reinforce my healing. Thank you!!!🙏
Amen, so am I!! Here's to healing!! 😊🙏🙏
Still trying to separate from his mother 🤦♀️
I rejected my grad advisor’s advances then I had to endure them making fun of me in front of others at my last meeting with them. I went “shutty shutty” for the remainder of my time there and it helped. No matter how many times they tried to offer me favors and compliments, I avoided them like the plague. Had to restart a new networking circle since then but at least it’s free of their toxicity.
I wonder if your Grad Advisor is my ex lol
Just left a 28 year marriage to a narc. One of the many signs I saw is when he yelled at me and said, (I NEED YOU TO TELL ME I'M GREAT). Now that I filed, I am dealing with revenge, punishment and threats to "expose me" and a smear campaign. Say a prayer for me please.
You have already been through the worst of it. 28 years with a narc tells me that, Enjoy every second of your peace, you are enough.
🙏 YOU GOT THIS!!
In my prayers be safe and remember you are not what they say you are perfectly and wonderfully made
All this info is sooo validating. My ex threatened divorce (and suicide!) for years… I finally said “you got it!” Nobody knew what was going on in my marriage. I protected him. Yes he tried to smear me with everyone. They all got tired of it and realized he was very disturbed.
To not become like them is key.
Your videos have helped me a lot with you ,I recently became aware of the world behind
My back was so bad I ll get over this, but it real bad when you give trust respect, and love ,and they crushed it All , I will have my eyes wide open , and never over look anything again thnk you for your help ,
Most Narcissist ask a GUESSTION ....
Not a Question ...
That leaves the narrative open to spin in there direction.Thank you Lisa for putting in the peices of these undecrible personalities...
My husband wrote to me saying he was so disappointed that I didn’t turn out to be his better half 😂😂😂
Lisa - you were my first teacher and I listened to others as well and learned a lot! I still come back to you! You are the dearest caring therapist and I keep learning and reflecting. I never want to let my guard down now! I look for narcissism in everyone and shockingly find it in a lot of people! 🥺😩
I am so glad it helps.
My husband once told me that he didn't want to hear my opinion unless it was facts only. Geez 😊
When I don't react. When I don't give him the reaction he's looking for ...im automatically labeled as being emotionless, not human.. uncaring. but then when i do react.. he tells me..i need to calm down. im the insane one.
They will cut you right out of their life if you call them out!!
“I crawled on my hands and knees and i figured it out!” Amazing , very well put & i agree!
Ok… I just have to say here… as I do so many times… to people who believe narcissists all come from abusive & traumatic childhoods. This is NOT the case. My abusers grew up being spoiled and, in some cases, told how wonderful they are. These were NOT abused children. They were/are spoiled entitled brats. They **choose** to abuse their targets and they enjoy it. Period. So no pity for the poor mistreated narcissists out there. These individuals have been vicious to me… even violent. They love to play mind games and do harm. And they do NOT come from an abusive traumatic background.
I will go so far as to say these individuals are evil in some cases. That’s right… I said EVIL. No one mistreated them. They are not victims. They are EVIL. The Bible talks about these individuals and the state of the world when Satan is trying to gather his army and take over here on Earth. Narcissists and psychopaths are his army. They are his legion.
And no… I’m not a religious fanatic. I’m simply stating the obvious of what’s happening to our world.
Narcissists are not victims. They **choose** to do evil. They enjoy it.
I, on the other hand, come from a very traumatic and abusive childhood (caused by my narcissistic abusers). I was neglected & abandoned by my mother as a baby. When we reconnected (after my cancer diagnosis… late stage 3 ovarian cancer) she has been very nasty to me. She’s your typical self absorbed, selfish, narc female. She couldn’t be bothered with her only child having metastatic cancer, flipping the script and making me out to be the problem while playing the victim of her abusive ungrateful child. It’s the DARVO technique like so many narcs use against their targets.
My dad has abused me emotionally, physically and sexually. The sexual abuse was during my childhood and he continued inappropriate behavior when I was a teenager. He regularly tore me down and I was made to feel less than zero. He will still try to do it if I don’t cut him off and protect myself… so the emotional abuse has continued into adulthood. I’m now 53 and he still tries to dominate and control me.
I also had 2 vicious stepmothers who are/were emotionally and physically abusive. They both continued smearing & slandering me into adulthood. One of them died several years ago and she was literally slandering me with terminal cancer the last year of her life. For whatever their reason, they hate me. Now a vicious half sister has been groomed and taught to treat me like dirt too.
None of these people had bad childhoods. They were/are spoiled rotten brats. (I am the one who had an abusive childhood.) NOT my narc abusers.
I refuse to make excuses for narcissists’ evil behavior. They know **exactly** what they are doing and they **enjoy** it.
The more malignant narcissists further along the spectrum… as well as psychopaths/anti social types… are Satan’s army.
Make no mistake about that. They are NOT all formerly abused children. Period.
It is so True! I am pity you have to go thruout of all this. God bless you!
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I agree. It is a choice. If it weren't, all abused children would become narcissists. And I know plenty of people who were abused and still managed to overcome their trials and become beautiful people. Matthew 19:29-30
My mother conceived out of wedlock, and married my father before I was born. She divorced him before I was two years of age. She has never had a good word of the father I have never known. She has said terrible things about him, and I have realised I am a very bad reminder of my father. She has treated me very differently to my half sisters, and thanks to you Lara, I am seeing my world through very different eyes now. Your messages have offered me so much strength, and I have made choices I could have made a long time ago. Thank you so much for your teachings. I am so grateful to you ❤
I have a narcissistic whole family across the street.Irritating SOBs! 😂
I remember stumbling on you in 2016 after realising for the first time my ex was a narcissist. I have continued to attract different types of them but I have the strength to leave every time. Now I’m ready to be alone. This last month dealing with multiple narcissists at the same time, only to be abused for rejecting multiple men in one week… I’m done. All the good men are taken and all the men my age on the apps are still single for a reason. Malignant, Prosocial, covert, diagnosed sociopathic who SAed his sister for decades (as I later found out). And I’m fine with a cat, a sewing machine and a garden from here on out .
Good for you 😁 take up knitting too😅 complete the picture ❤.good for the brain to.
@@awomen1072 I’m actually an avid knitter. I knitted him a scarf 🧣 🫠
My ex narc is currently using my adult son as a flying monkey. He's attempting to damage my relationship with my child. I've been almost 5 months no contact with him, so he's finding a way to punish me. Sickening.
They use the kids. My children were used also.
My 15 yr old has been put into our business as well.
That's exactly what my husband of 43 years on drugs is doing to me. Crippling me . He took my family away, and now wont let me leave. I cant get. To the dmv to renew my drivers license, doctor and need to badly, dentist, optometrist, to get prescription glasses. He's trapped me. He's crazy.
❤thank you Lisa. I’m going thru this right now. My husband left me early this morning and he started hurling insults in my face. I said please don’t talk like that. I want peace please. And I said don’t believe every thought that comes in your head. He left So I’m scared now but got grounded. Thanks again Lisa Keep up your good work!!!❤
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Be strong !
This is where I am right now, she discarded me and went to go stay on property she acquired a couple years ago with her oldest daughter, I get as needed communication,and I'm really feeling great because the put downs and the narcissistic treatment are gone too. You nailed it, and I feel things are starting to fall in place for me like I once had.
I moved 450 miles away from my parents at age 18. Now I'm 44, my parents are in their 80s, and my NM expects me to uproot my entire life to move back to my hometown to take care of them. It hasn't even crossed her mind to think about what *I* might want or what might be good for *ME* or that maybe the way she treats me is a factor in our rocky relationship. She actually thinks that--after everything she's done and said to me--I'm going to rescue her. I can tell she's worried because I'm rejecting her. She's a grown adult with money, she can figure it out herself. I'd like to say to her "With the way you treat me, what did you expect?" But we all know that the Narc can't comprehend topics beyond their own selfish needs.
One of the WORST reasons to have children: so that they make you happy and will take care of you when you're elderly. Especially if you're American, you know this isn't likely to happen. So don't have children for selfish reasons; it'll most likely backfire on you.
Why have you not cut off all contact with them? Why do you allow them to have the ability to contact you? If you moved away and still have contact, you've left the door open for their abuse.
I received flowers, clothes, my favorite candy, snacks, he was doing the dishes, folding the clothes, talking about what we were going to do, down the road, I’m just so beautiful, He just loves me so much, I just mean the whole world, to him I’m he’s everything, he will just die, without me,
he can’t believe, he lost me over nothing, he would never cheat or lie everyone knows, you’re wrong. Exhausting
Wow really good information Lisa! My parents sided with my husband too. It was so weird. What’s really strange is so did my siblings. This love bombing thing has happened the whole time I been married. Just wish I had got out years ago…I listen to you everyday and feel so different. I actually like myself. I stay away from unhealthy people. I am even trying to go on a trip by myself.
But see, when you express disagreements with behavior to the narc, THEY act appalled and shocked by YOUR insanity.
I'm very lonely without him. There were good times 😢 I don't understand how I can feel so much pain at the loss of someone who hurt me over and over again
It happen to me go no contact you will get stronger trust in the Most High Yah
It’s the cognitive dissonance- RUclips it =knowledge is power. In short, their psyc abuse causes us to be addicted to the highs and lows (which also causes you to ruminate). It’s a vicious cycle that makes it much harder to break than your typical break up. - keep learning and keep practicing believing in you, & your body.
Because he is more than likely with someone you know like a relative, neighbor, … This is how it works for them!
Hell, for that living across the street. Trust me. I’m been through it!
Thank you Lisa for everything that you do!!! You literally saved my life!!!❤
Lisa, this is a thorough summary. Great guidelines.
I so much appreciate this. My marriage and divorce was unbelievably painful. I didn't come to know about narcissism until I was well into the divorce and shell-shocked. You describe the process all so eloquently.
Hi, it’s taken me 14 years to discover much of what you’ve said. I can relate to most of your information. A 18 year relationship ended suddenly but now I see many things I put up with or accepted. I am still learning more each time I watch posts like this - can’t thank you enough for your explanation of co-dependent style, now know I fit this style and learn more how to learn and change. Even if at 73 the chances of an another relationship is slim. X
ps my ex he will never be self aware enough to change - now married for the third time - I was number two. Thank you again I now feel much better - understanding is key!
Thank you so much Lisa for putting things into perspective. I had a similar situation where my narcissist mother and my ex-husband were calling each other during my divorce because she said he needed support to. Now I know it was all triangulation and my mother also does it with my brother to put a wedge between us. My father was also a narcissistic alcoholic that I've had no contact with for many years
LOVE the Dracula part
Mine literally identifies as having the spirit of a vampire and noted all of the traits he’s had from his pre-teens until now (in his 30s) that are vampiric in nature (obsessed w/Dracula and vampirism and the history, his sharp teeth, being nocturnal, energy vamping tactics, amongst other elements associated with them). I’ve known him since we were both 12-13 and he just unmasked and revealed his true spirit after 20 years at the end of last year. Thought he was my ride-or-die and told myself for the past 20 yrs that I wouldn’t want to continue living w/o him. But now that I know the true spirits of people with high levels of these narc traits I can’t stop thinking he was planted in my life so early on to break my spirit to the point that I’d take myself out of this world and fully extinguish my light at this very point in time. I’m so shaken to my core with this connection (longest standing one in my life), how dark his spirit has slowly turned over the years, and how everything has panned out. People mention spiritual warfare often and I’m wondering how deep does this run if this formed so early on in my life to reach this culmination 💀 (so sorry for the tangent. It’s still pretty fresh and I had to comment on the Dracula reference in case anyone relates)
Thank you so much Miss Lisa Romano for all your hard work, healing and kindness. It’s wonderful to see people doing the introspective work & helping others. It’s helped me prepare .
I noticed a positive that from being a victim, seems like a surprising number starts a practice and helps others
He froze all of our bank accounts!
I'm amazed at how well and thoroughly you understand and can explain this personality disorder. I only wish the court system and attorneys are required to understand, recognize, and make appropriate decisions in terms of custody with this information. The court system, on a daily basis, places children in the hands of these sick ppl. The court complains about how busy and backed up they are. Perhaps they'd have a lot less cases and ppl returning if they addressed the problem at its core. By placing children in the care of a narcissist produces more narcissists 5, 10, 15, 20 etc. Years from now. I sat in court for an entire day and it is like an assembly line of narcissistic ppl weaponizing the justice system to hurt ppl to get what they want. Many cases I witness lack the evidence and typically get dismissed. However, the narcisstic accuser gets away with their behavior without any punishment whatsoever by blatantly lying on police reports. This emboldens them to do it over and over. I guess it makes money for the court system and their attorney friends. Not all cases get dismissed. Some narcissists achieve their goal and the court places full custody of beautiful children in their hands. Its truly heartbreaking. Men and women can both be narcissists. But in court, from what I've seen, is mostly women being the accuser, going this route, and most times winning. In speaking with attorneys, they referred to me as a unicorn for fighting for my child. They say, most times, the male knows the courts majority of times side with the woman and the man walks away. Think about how many good fathers are removed from their childs life bc of the corrupt enabling system we call family court. The big question is, why are so many narcissists being created and how are they typically utilizing the sameplayback? Are they aware there doing it or do they believe their lies? I know there are different types and levels of narcissists, but almost always, they act similarly when using fabricated domestic violence, custody battles, and divorce proceedings.
I think there is a severe lack of acknowledgement that women can be abusers. When I worked in the emergency room, one time a man brought in a little girl for bruises all over her body. The social worker immediately called the police on him, accusing him of abuse. Turns out, it was the mom. The child had pooped in the bathtub, and the mother beat her black and blue. :( The boyfriend brought her to the E.R. by himself. They called the mother to come, and when she came, she ADMITTED ANGRILY that her daughter deserved it because she pooped in the bathtub. That social worker never even apologized to the boyfriend for accusing him of the abuse. HE WAS THE ONE WHO BROUGHT THE CHILD TO THE E.R. He was a quiet, soft-spoken black man. :( I pity the men who fall for these abusive women. I pity the children that are forced to stay with delusional witches like her.
This is happening to me by my ex husband and now my teen boys and adult son
Thank you Lisa🙏
"Going to the priest" YUP, couldn't believe it! I thought I was the only one.
So glad that you dodged the bullet. Your X showed his hand. Cripple you so you would stay with him!! Where is the logic or the love in that. A normal person in spite of the hurt and feelings you are going through, has no choice but to leave. I left and climbed out of to.
Hi Lisa. I am grateful The Universe sent me a link to your video. I've been working with a "Consciousness" workshop conductor for more than 18 years who, after I rejected her has humiliated me in circle and tortured me publicly and privately. I knew it was because I had taken steps to leave the relationship but did not realize the extent and the predictable insane behavior that would ensue. Your video and wisdom is so timely. Thank you.
You are so right, they are literally vampires of our life's blood, our very life force. Thnaks for sharing your personal experience.
Very good content and explainations, thanks
You are welcome!
My Mom now has dementia because of her husband being a overt narc. My husband has complained for forty years aboutu the man and mow is the same if mot worse. My mom was a teacher for 36 years and after she retired. It got worse.her job kept her semi sane.
Thank you.🎉
This is one of the best explanations I've heard so far.. Thank you! 💜🕊
Lisa I need help so bad ... I'm locked in this abuse and this narcissist is going to kill me it's my mom
Can you get away from her?
I hope you can get away. The other thing is to find ways as much as possible to minimize contact with her, and ideally to spend some time with kind, safe, forthright people if you can. I've known people who relied on going to the library a lot, for example. But if you can spend time with people who are the opposite of your mom, it helps with healing and with learning how healthy people interact. Sorry you are having to cope with this.
Go and start doing exercise in a fitness or taking long walks to free your mind. Do not tell her anything about it at all. And do little steps and changes to separate more and more. Cover it will banal reasons towards her, boring reasons and uninteresting reasons for her. Invent. And why, just to collect your self again and garner your energy for bigger steps. Maybe moving out without warning one day and without sharing with her your plans, if she is a nasty narcissist, to protect yourself from her. And maybe going to therapy then to help you recover and to heal from the abuse, after the move out, she caused you. Just some thoughts and ideas to your comment. Good luck.
I can relate! My mom still puts me through hell! I'm 61 now and finally see what the real deal is. I always thought it was me the crazy one, the too sensitive one, the blacksheep and so on...grey rocking is saving my sanity. I could go on and on but just know that setting strong boundaries and grey rocking saved my life. She is 85 and not in good health. Karma!
This video is fantastic, I very much enjoyed listening. I'm extremely happy how the current awareness of this narcissism disorder epidemic is broadly evolving to the high level of communication that it is. Well done Lisa you are doing great work. I pray for many blessings to come your way 🙏
Thank you so much for this video Dr. Lisa. Ohh my goodness this has answered so many questions for me. I now understand my biological father who is a covert and overt narcissist depending on the time. I am so thankful I set boundaries and got out of the cycle of up and down and round and round. But getting the why and the how is so insightful. God bless you abundantly. I get to understand so much and move forward with such gladness
I just wanna know why there are so many of them??
Yes Lisa 💕it takes a long time to learn from toxic people who lie cheat and abuse. 🙏❤️
I can completely relate to everything you went through Lisa. I managed to move out in September last year. He blamed me for embarrassing him to all our neighbors and friends for leaving me.
He told me, he loves me. Afer i called the sheriff for help the other day. I was supposed to call them off after hearing that. I didnt. Im not stupid. He hasnt said that in years.
Thank you for this video.. Punishment is a sure thing! He Used our only child as a pawn. 23 years of his abuse. I'm free now,, but with a price. My daughter is not talking to me, this has broken my heart. He mocked, discredited me, minimized, gaslit,, all of it. She saw, this and she learned this was acceptable. So covert!! He still tries to talk negative about me. I called his bluff too!! He never thought I would leave.
I'm ADHD diagnosed and was a as kid. I also had both parents that had addictions and mental health problems. My dad committed suicide when I was 7. I don't have addictions and I have been in therapy from an early age. However,, being adhd and having trauma,, I constantly questioned myself through my marriage. Is it me? Am I being drama? Am i too sensitive? No!!! I wasn't!! He is covert!! As for my ex.. he had been abandoned as a child by a parent. And Raised by someone that didn't think he was his father. He never had therapy of any kind. He constantly tried to make me the problem. He is known by his friends that he is a control freak. He has found someone that feeds his ego, she needs him.
I feel like I failed my daughter by staying too long and I definitely fell in the codependent hole.
I wish my NPD could watch this video and say, "ohhhhh now I get it"
I’m married to a narc for 44 years. 😢. Since his retirement 5;years ago, I know now he is a cold mean person. Today I told him the only way I will converse with him is by text / email.
"What did you do?". " I've seen enough". Yep, so have I. Right from the start, she said she didn't want to work on herself, so I'm not giving up on her as a human being. Some jobs actually require someone with relationship issues. That way they can focus on the task before them. Patience is a virtue, fools rush in where Angels fear to tread. Think about love and be grateful for something, you are worth it. (what am I channelling Stuart Smalley?)
Holy moly!!! I'm so glad I just found your channel Lisa A. Romano!! This gives me such relief to see where their vitriol is coming from...
My 86 yr old stepmom is still at it 😖 😢 We celebrate Fathers Day. My birthday either falls on Fathers Day or within a day. But we dont celebrate my birthday. Then her birthday is the following week and we celebrate her birthday. She goes out of her way to exclude me, with a smile on her face. Then takes pics of the events i wasnt invited to and sends them to me as in "ha ha look what you missed." Its been going on for decades and now thaf im midlife and my eyes are open, it's making my head spin. I feel like I'm going crazy. The past 8 months I've tried to distance myself (as we live 3 minutes apart), mind you, I moved 2000 miles away only for them to follow me. And most think she's the sweetest little lady, but thats because they see her once a year or less.
Proverbs 12:26 (NKJV)
The righteous should choose his friends carefully, For the way of the wicked leads them astray.
WOW! Perfectly stated!! I know this all too well!!! 17:04
This is very impressively accurate. Thanks for this education. Feeling strong about my health and wellbeing moving forward. God bless. ❤
Thank you for this. Highly accurate and valuable information.❤
Do not overtly reject them especially if you have kids with them. They will ruin you life for as long as they can to punish you and use the kids against you. Disappear or make it about you but do not be honest with them.
Cause and effect to me is like adding 1+1
I'm a man, and I've been beaten down by my wife. I left her when I just couldn't take it anymore. Then I got back with her, to try and make it work. We are divorced now, finally. But it still hurts so bad. I really loved who I thought she was. She just wasn't that person
Bèenstudy8ngthe disorder for 10 years and i cannot unlearn what i have learned. There are lots of them and i seem to attract them like flys . Im recovering from a stroke and im pretty sure it from the abuse from thelast 2 relationships i had . Blessed i still have my freedom. Thank doctor for your help.
Hi,Lisa.Congratulations on your emancipation!😁
Literally textbook what my breakup has been like
If I ever make anyone or anyone makes me feel unsafe I back off
I do not bother people?at home.
Others are very important there well being
Thanks for the video it really cleared some things up for me young lady
So true just went through this all my fault not
This was a very educational video. You were amazing for the way you explained in depth about who a narcissist is, and what their motives are in relationships. Whether it's with a family member, a lover, their children, or a friend. They are users and they hate to be told no. Thank you 👍👏👏👏I'm going to tell all of my family and friends about your channel
Thank you Lisa for all you do. I've learned sooo much from you and Dr. Ramani
Thsnk you Lisa 😊❤
Very true dogs only become aggressive because no one is protecting them or the other has trained them to be
I needed to see this! My female ex narc is up to her toxic ways again! 2 years after me leaving her….(happens every few months like clock work) My phone has the unrecognizable numbers showing up again! Asking for someone else, yet I know who it is! Even told her! I know who this is! It’s like a game, to her! So pathetic, so toxic, so unhealthy! 🤦😳😊👍🏻
My girlfriend keeps accusing me of cheating and ordinary friends want me and vice versa she discards me then comes back as she pleases I finally stood up to her and blocked her with no contact she keep calling no caller ID as we speak 🗣️ Enough is Enough ☹️😢
Lisa you are awesome, really helping me. Dr. Ramani is good as is Les Carter and Sam Vaknin. But you have your own angle on this topic which is very important.
Lisa you're so beautiful. Woops -- you're happily married!! Nah, but here's the deal: your wisdom is just completely awesome and I learn so much from you. Thank you!
Subjucating, acquiescing, etc Lisa's making me pull out the ole dictionary on this one
Spot on once again, Lisa!👏👏👏
32 years. I’m done
Perfect timing, thank you
I have been with one for 5 years and we are breaking up again it's hard for me but I'm going to try to not too contact Her at all this time and thank you.
DO NOT underestimate their long game plan for retribution.
Would it be the same if the person has ASPD? Very similar
ok..... so what do you do if the relationship with the NPD is going nowhere, is hurting you, but you have a 10 year old child? If you can, for the most part, maintain peace in the house and keep the relationship functional, should you stick it out until the child is past their formative years?