17:11 we have a joke in Kenya where due to Amin's illiteracy, he thought the FOR SALE writing on most shops meant that a man called Sale owned all the shops 😅
@@jamesokoth6655 These GenZs and Gen Alpha had history teachers but the guy in the red shirt did not even know who Milton Obote was - scary that he is walking on Obote Street in the age of the internet and clueless.
Indians in Kisumu have little to do with Amin. Milimani, Ngara, Parklands were Indian settlement immediately after independence. Infact, first Indians who built the railway were settled at Mumias, they refused and prefered Kisumu. I had Indians in my old school Kisumu Boys. Actually Kisumu Boys was initially called Lake Asian school specifically started in 1947 for Indians. By 1978 KB had 90%Indian population and staff.
@@eugeneseko4031 They were a privileged lot since they were graded as second-class citizens by the colonial administration. This started them off much better than the Africans. As a kid I was told of how they would monopolize business by Indian wholesalers lying to African traders that the stock is out and only supplying the Indian traders with the goods. In Kisumu other tribes' business were destroyed and those communities chased out of Kisumu during ethnic violence. Kisumu just got it current level of development due to Kibaki and Uhuru Administration efforts. now consider a well financed mass migration of them Indians settling in Kisumu all at once. Why did amin chase them? This doesn't look they having a superior business acumen than the Africans. I' can almost say the same for the Somalian's. The sugar industry there has been destroyed due to corruption and mismanagement though the other day something seem to have been done about it.
Indians normally hire their own people, the blacks are paid low wage. They tend to take over all businesses everywhere they go. Another problem is they tend to be inconsiderate. This is not to say all Indians are like that but majority want to control economy and suppress black people's businesses, jobs and services. I come in peace, no offence here.
Your guide is very captivating. I am surprised though that Gen Z Kenyans are very ignorant about the 70s history. Please UG Connect promote his channel.
I visited Kisumu City and I must admit that it is the neatest and most organized city in Kenya. There is law and order and everyone follows traffic rules. So well laid out. Nairobi doesn’t even come a mile close. To the people and leaders of Kisumu, well done💫
This is the story of Sale (as in English word sale). When Indians were threatened with deportation by Amin, most of them put their businesses for sale. This meant that every shop had a poster indicating that the business together with the premises was being advertised for sale. It is rumoured that to when Amin came across these signs he confused it to mean someone's name. He wondered how one person named 'Sale' could own all these shops. Out of jealousy, that is how or why he ordered for their confiscation to be handed to Ugandans who were mostly his cronies as he kicked Indians out of the country. This is the story of Sale (as in English word sale) as was narrated in Kenya.
The title is wrong. Indians did not build Kisumu. This is indirectly saying that Kenyan African ant do it. Indians, who are also Kenyan, contributed to building Kisumu. Kisumu development was accelerated by two factos; devolution and the nonesense Governor Prof Anyan Nyong. Please provide a balanced view, not a single statement.
I have noticed a trend with young youtubers with a misguided sense of Pan Africanism. The space the Indians occupy in Kenya is one that they created themselves and even if they left the locals would not replicate their success, as the case was in Uganda. The color of your skin or tribe will not put food on your table and is of no significance only judge people based on how well you can relate with them.
I agree that Kenyan Indians built businesses from the ground up. They had an advantage of picking from where the white man left off. They got leases to prime land for a song. As the businesses dwindle and they move to the west, they sell these leases for huge amounts. We can't completely say there was no advantage even though they are genuinely hard working
The ignorance of some in this generation, with a neocolonialism mindset, is dumbfounding. My grandfather, a Luo from Kendu Bay, was one of the richest, with cattle galore. He even traded in hides with the Arabs. He was not Indian, but a pure-blooded 6 foot 7 inches tall black man skilled in business.
One reason why Kenya will always do well for the simple reason it has a shipping port, a country or state/province that has a port will never go down in its economy as the goods come in and go out through that city/country. Uganda is land locked it’s produce & products prices will always be suppressed.
@@davinmuhahala6887whats there to explain about Rwanda?Kigali being clean and less disorganized coz the economy isn't as big as Uganda's and not as developed as Uganda too,the best example of a land locked country doing well is Ethiopia
That Express statue looks more like advertisement for airline company - I think Skyward Express. About Kisumu Indians, they were not from UG, they actually came with the railway line.
Although most Africans opt to labor alone and never realize their dream, Africans may learn a lot from these Indians, including that financial independence can be achieved through teamwork. Imagine if all the women at the market banded together to open a big business that served as a food store.
You picked someone with very little knowledge of kisumu he is not even a "local". Kisumu is rich historically and much deeper than what the young man is telling you.
The question of Kenyan Indian and Kenyan White is tricky . Prominent Kenyan Indians that participated in Independence struggle include Pio Gama Pinto, Makhan Singh and others . Prior to Independence Kenyan Asians including Indians together with Kenyan Arab were second class citizen while the indigenous black were third class . Before independence indigenous Kenyans were black-African/ethnic by law . Post independence changed that more towards nationality/ethnic .
Urban areas including Nairobi and Kisumu were segregated . Kenyan Indians in Nairobi and Kisumu have largely maintained their precolonial residences . White also in some parts of Rift Valley . But other Whites in Kenya fled to Rhodesia(Zimbabwe) and South Africa during the MAU MAU uprising(400,000-1million black indigenous Kenyans died/displaced) and at least half a million were in Conct. Camps .
At Independence,1963, THURGOOD MARSHALL (First black US Chief Justice) helped write Kenya's Independence constitution that protected racial minorities(white, Asian/Arab,Indian,others etc) as a result Indians were protected by constitution . He was a Friend of Jomo Kenyatta, Oginga Odinga and Tom Mboya Kenya's Independence Nationalists and advised them not to repeat the mistakes of the US . Tom Mboya and Dr. Martin Luther King were close .
Bwana Mayanja i have liked how you've improved your interview game and presentation. Some more training and experience then you will be there. Keep on, Country man.
Asians were the backbone of the Ugandan economy. After Idi Amin ordered them out, everyone knows what happened to the economy. Running family businesses is not easy and handing them to novices in Uganda during the Amin regime was a very costly lesson. Now Ugandan’s are maturing and learning to run their economy but the few Asian businesses are still at the top.
It is said that when Amin would walk downtown Kampala he'd see the word "SALE" on all the shops. He'd ask, "who's this SALLE who seems to own all the shops in Kampala?" This may not be true.
In 1971 Idi Amin staged a coup against President Milton Obote and became president of Uganda . Milton Obote had criticized the apartheid regime in South Africa and the UK government detested his position on South Africa . Britain then supported Idi Amin’s coup against Milton Obote .
Yoweri Museveni had in 1986 become the president of Uganda after President Gen Tito Okello who,with the help of his army commander Gen Bazilio Olara Okello,staged a coup against President Milton Obote . Paul Kagame,a Banyarwanda tutsi had fought alongside Yoweri Museveni between 1981-86 and by 1990 left for the US military training on a Ugandan passport .
In Uganda in 1987 a rebellion-against-Yoweri-Museveni-was launched by-LRA-Luo-Acholi led by-JOSEPH-KONY , Alice Auma Lakwena , Dominic Ongwen , Vincent Otti, Okot Odhiambo ,Raska Lukwiya ,Nixman Opuk Oryanga ,Ceaser Achellum ,Bunia Ochan,Lt Col Opiyo Sam,George Omona(Kony bodyguard),Lt Col Okello Michael and others .
The LRA Luo-Acholi rebellion-in-Uganda led by JOSEPH KONY ,Okot Odhiambo, Lt Col Okello Michael, Lt Col Opiyo Sam, Alice Auma Lakwena, Dominic Ongwen et al, lasted from 1987-2017 . One of the most-protracted and longest-rebellions in human history .
By 1990 Banyarwanda tutsi led by Fred Rwigema , who had been deputy defense minister in Uganda, had launched an offensive against president Juvenal Habyarimana of Rwanda, a Banyarwanda hutu . After the death of Fred Rwigema Paul Kagame returned to Rwanda and became head of Rwanda Patriotic Front, RPF (The precursor to RPF ,Rwanda Alliance for National Unity,RANU, was founded in 1979 in Nairobi Kenya by Banyarwanda tutsi exiles) .
Juvenal Habyarimana plane was downed in 1994 . By 1996 Paul Kagame and Yoweri Museveni supported Laurent Kabila against President Mobutu Sese Seko in Congo . Laurent Kabila was also supported by Banyarwanda tutsi in Congo(Banyamulenge) who form the bulk of M23 led by Sultani Makenga and Laurent Nkunda . Laurent Kabila became President in Congo in 1997 . Paul Kagame became president in Rwanda in 2000 .
The International Court has opened investigative prosecution files on Yoweri Museveni and son Gen Muhoozi Kainerugaba on war crimes in Northern and Eastern Uganda, Rwanda, Burundi, Sudan, CAR, Chad and DRC Congo together with human rights violations in Uganda .
That story about Indians being chased from Uganda is questionable. Most Indians immigrated to Kenya in 1895 at the creation of the British East African Protectorate. Vasco Da Gama also recorded encountering Indians along the coast of East Africa in the 15th Century in Malindi. Bank of India existed in Kisumu in 1913 before Idi Amin. The Siri Guru Singh Saba Temple was built in Kisumu in 1913. We have had Indians living in Kendu Bay from time immemorial. Kisii town as well -A Jiwa Shamji (Hardware Store) was my father's friend from the 1940s and 1950s to the 90's when they were old men and anyone who is in their 50s can remember the trailer truck company of Kendu Bay - the maroon trailers that were operated by an Indian for the longest time...forgot his name. I'm from Kendu Bay, plus history books.
Though Indian contribution is remarkable, most of the native Indians went to Uk, the current population is far from the way it used to be. When we came to Kisumu, Milimani, Patel Flats were exclussively Indians. Now maybe under 50%.probably 30% or 40%.
In 1985 regional/nepotistic disagreements between Uganda National Liberation Army Commander, General Tito Okello(Luo-Acholi) and President Milton Obote(Luo-Langi) over the promotion of Smith Acak Opon(Luo-Langi) to replace the late Gen Oyite Ojok(Luo-Langi) instead of General Bazillio Okello(Luo-Acholi) caused a coup against Milton Obote .
Gen Tito Okello became president(1985-86) and Gen Bazillio Olara Okello became army commander in Uganda . Daniel Moi of Kenya called peace talks in Nairobi between Yoweri Museveni and Gen Tito Okello . The agreement(witnessed by Ambassador Bethwell Kiplagat of Kenya) required Gen Tito Okello to be president and Yoweri Museveni to be vice president . Gen Tito Okello proposed his nephew, Oxford and Harvard Trained Fulbright Scholar, Uganda Lawyer exiled in Kenya Ambassador Olara Otunnu(Luo-Acholi) to be president after transition to civilian rule .
Gen Bazillio Olara Okello proposed London based Oxford trained Urologist Dr Henry Obonyo(Luo-Acholi) to be president after military transition . THE TALKS COLLAPSED when Soldiers allied to Yoweri Museveni and led by Rwandans Paul Kagame and Fred Rwigema continued a push against Gen Tito Okello led Soldiers mostly Luo-Acholi , Luo-Langi in Uganda previously including Major Stephen Abili , Lt Col Wilson Okonga ,John Ogole and others . Yoweri Museveni deliberately sabotaged the talks with Daniel Moi in Nairobi Kenya and would thereafter maintain a strained relationship with Daniel Moi .
The initial plan by Uganda under Yoweri Museveni after 1986 was to send Paul Kagame to Nigeria for military training, Fred Rwigyema to US for military training and Peter Baingana to Russia for military training .
Plans by Uganda to send Banyarwanda tutsi RPF(Rwanda Patriotic Front) Leaders Paul Kagame to Nigeria for military training,Fred Rwigyema to US for military training and Peter Baingana to Russia for military training were intended to scuttle their attempts at invading Rwanda after their secret plans were leaked to the Uganda government . Uganda had just come out of 3 successive coups and a rebellion was brewing against Yoweri Museveni by LRA Luo-Acholi led by JOSEPH KONY . An unstable Rwanda would create problems for Uganda .
Paul Kagame caught wind of Uganda’s plan and convinced Fred Rwigyema not to go to US . Fred Rwigyema was the defacto leader of RPF(Rwanda Patriotic Front) . He informed the Uganda government of his plans not to attend the US military training course . There was disappointment from Yoweri Museveni side . The Uganda government insisted that Paul Kagame has to go to US for military training since Fred Rwigyema had rejected the offer . The goal was to scuttle RPF efforts to invade Rwanda by separating RPF leaders. Paul Kagame,Fred Rwigyema and Peter Baingana did not want to delay their plans .
Your tour guide is lying in a daylight 😂ati jaralam it's only for Indians😂its an international school for everyone..I can see u don't need a tour guide even the other ladies were spreading false information
Indians in Kisumu are not originally from Uganda. The majority came directly from India and settled in Kisumu around 1900.Additionally, many Ugandan Indians moved to Nairobi and Malindi, while others returned to India. Furthermore, Indians in Kisumu do not control 70% of the economy that claim is baseless and incorrect.
A lie, Jalaram is not only Indian school, a total lie! Go there right now and see, I have friends and neighbors who take their kids there.., only that it is expensive but not only Indian, go there from around 4pm, see the black parents many, infact they are majority!!., this guys seem to be clueless about Kisumu, they don't have facts are giving their thoughts 😂😂😂..,
@@FestusJoseph-v5y It was initially targeting indian since it offered only GCE and Cambridge, but now with significant reduction of indians population, it should be multi racial. There was one called Kisumu international school which later changed to Brookhouse that was 90% whites. There is Mudasa in Tom Mboya which is also international. By 90s Kisumu Milimani was almost exclussively Indian. Not the case anymore since since there has been arise in black middle class in Kisumu. I was around when Lolwe started.
@@FestusJoseph-v5y One thing about Kisumu is that it probably has the best public primary schools in Kenya. Most of these kids know little about Kisumu. Victoria park was called asuch because it was close to victoria primary. Its name officially has always been Jamhuri park.
It can never be 70 all those business shops you are crossing along the streets are not indian owned you can see,bt i must say they contribute alot say 20 -25 percent 70 is a big lie
What are you doing giving glory to Indians for how Kisumu is? No offence here but be careful. The Luo love people so Indians may feel welcome in that city from what I hear. However, Kenyans are complaining that Indians do not pay the blacks well, there are discrimination claims. Please check other bloggers etc.
Population of Indians in Africa 3 million . More Indians in US(5million) than in entire continent of Africa . Africa continent . India Country . Africa 12 times larger than India with more resources . Population India 1960, 450 million . Population Africa 1960, 285 million . Population India 2000, 1.1billion . Population Africa 2000, 820million . Population India 2023 ,1.41 billion . China population 1.4 billion . Population Africa continent 1.46 billion in 2023 . Some countries have a history with Indians , Some don't e.g South Africa 1.3 million Indians . Mauritius ,Tanzania, Kenya Indians etc . Less than 4000 Indians in Rwanda .
@@papd3532 Man, if DRC could get its shit together, build its police and military for security, educate its population and harness all its resources it will be a country to envy. I pray one day it prospers, sadly not in my lifetime. The corrupt african politicians are here for many generations to come, they hate african development for sure, holding the continent back for their own richness.
What a lopside history of Kisumu. Kindly note this for your record. The Indians in Kisumu did not come from Uganda. The Indians Iddi Amin chased went to Britain. The Indians in Kisumu are descendants of Railway builders who built the line from Mombasa to Kisumu. They are part and parcel of the Kisumu community and have been here since 1901 when the railway reached Port Florence. Tell that guy speaking pseudo history in confidence to get his facts rights. Ong'er.
India and Pakistan same people same ethnic groups just different predominant religion with India pre-dominantly Hindu/Sikh and Pakistan predominantly Muslim and different Nationalities . Same way Nilotic Luo of Tanzania, Uganda, Kenya, DRC Congo, Ethiopia Gambella/Eritrea, Chad, Central Africa Republic, SUDAN/Lower Egypt etc ,same people different Nationalities .
Kenya is 1000% better, safer, more literate, learnt and advance than Uganda. Kenyan don't have that shitty thinking as of ugandans jealous of others. That's why Kenya is too much developed than UG. Accept hard facts.
17:11 we have a joke in Kenya where due to Amin's illiteracy, he thought the FOR SALE writing on most shops meant that a man called Sale owned all the shops 😅
True and that young man didn't know that
@@jamesokoth6655 These GenZs and Gen Alpha had history teachers but the guy in the red shirt did not even know who Milton Obote was - scary that he is walking on Obote Street in the age of the internet and clueless.
@relaxationsoundsambience2724 very sad indeed yet our syllabus is very comprehensive
Indians in Kisumu have little to do with Amin.
Milimani, Ngara, Parklands were Indian settlement immediately after independence. Infact, first Indians who built the railway were settled at Mumias, they refused and prefered Kisumu. I had Indians in my old school Kisumu Boys. Actually Kisumu Boys was initially called Lake Asian school specifically started in 1947 for Indians. By 1978 KB had 90%Indian population and staff.
Kisumu Indians have been here since 1901, way before Amin was born. What a mutilation of history.
@Ouma you're very correct Sir
@@eugeneseko4031 They were a privileged lot since they were graded as second-class citizens by the colonial administration. This started them off much better than the Africans. As a kid I was told of how they would monopolize business by Indian wholesalers lying to African traders that the stock is out and only supplying the Indian traders with the goods. In Kisumu other tribes' business were destroyed and those communities chased out of Kisumu during ethnic violence. Kisumu just got it current level of development due to Kibaki and Uhuru Administration efforts. now consider a well financed mass migration of them Indians settling in Kisumu all at once. Why did amin chase them? This doesn't look they having a superior business acumen than the Africans. I' can almost say the same for the Somalian's. The sugar industry there has been destroyed due to corruption and mismanagement though the other day something seem to have been done about it.
@eugeneseko4031 💯.
@oumaedwin198 Please tell the guy. Not sure where he studied.
I agree that foreigners are needed for capital and expertise so that in the future locals become competitive as well.
Singapore.... Korea....all done same thing just look at them
@@ashifabedin will kenyans learn from foreigners, like china did?
Indians normally hire their own people, the blacks are paid low wage. They tend to take over all businesses everywhere they go. Another problem is they tend to be inconsiderate. This is not to say all Indians are like that but majority want to control economy and suppress black people's businesses, jobs and services. I come in peace, no offence here.
They are not needed for anything, stop the lazy thinking, we have everything we need to be a first world country.
Your guide is very captivating. I am surprised though that Gen Z Kenyans are very ignorant about the 70s history. Please UG Connect promote his channel.
I visited Kisumu City and I must admit that it is the neatest and most organized city in Kenya. There is law and order and everyone follows traffic rules. So well laid out. Nairobi doesn’t even come a mile close. To the people and leaders of Kisumu, well done💫
12:00 I grew up in Kisumu, swan center wasn't there then. It only sprung up in the early 2000s
Swan centre was built in the 90s,i was in school when it was built.Around 1995.
Swan Center belongs to Sansora Group, its not Indian
@@eugeneseko4031it's indian but late Nyachae had shares
This is the story of Sale (as in English word sale).
When Indians were threatened with deportation by Amin, most of them put their businesses for sale. This meant that every shop had a poster indicating that the business together with the premises was being advertised for sale. It is rumoured that to when Amin came across these signs he confused it to mean someone's name. He wondered how one person named 'Sale' could own all these shops. Out of jealousy, that is how or why he ordered for their confiscation to be handed to Ugandans who were mostly his cronies as he kicked Indians out of the country. This is the story of Sale (as in English word sale) as was narrated in Kenya.
Do a documentary on big businesses owned by Luos in Kisumu and Migori.
He can't he wants everyone to believe that foreigners own and built Kisumu
The title is wrong. Indians did not build Kisumu. This is indirectly saying that Kenyan African ant do it. Indians, who are also Kenyan, contributed to building Kisumu. Kisumu development was accelerated by two factos; devolution and the nonesense Governor Prof Anyan Nyong. Please provide a balanced view, not a single statement.
😂😂😂😂@@michaelcody3960
Facts. Dude wants to push a narrative!!
@@esem135 Kisumu is not Jinja.
I have noticed a trend with young youtubers with a misguided sense of Pan Africanism.
The space the Indians occupy in Kenya is one that they created themselves and even if they left the locals would not replicate their success, as the case was in Uganda.
The color of your skin or tribe will not put food on your table and is of no significance only judge people based on how well you can relate with them.
I agree!
I agree that Kenyan Indians built businesses from the ground up. They had an advantage of picking from where the white man left off. They got leases to prime land for a song. As the businesses dwindle and they move to the west, they sell these leases for huge amounts. We can't completely say there was no advantage even though they are genuinely hard working
You're right Indians are astute businessmen
The ignorance of some in this generation, with a neocolonialism mindset, is dumbfounding. My grandfather, a Luo from Kendu Bay, was one of the richest, with cattle galore. He even traded in hides with the Arabs. He was not Indian, but a pure-blooded 6 foot 7 inches tall black man skilled in business.
Hard works always paid off....not trying to be jealous about it we all struggling...
Indian in Kisumu are part and parcel of kisumu inception. There was even an MP in the 60s called Amir Jamal.
No they are not, Kisumu was a trading place hundred of years before.
Love the kisumu series, great work! 👍🏿
Watching from Nairobi Kenya 😊
Habe never been to kisumu but its a clean city for sure
One reason why Kenya will always do well for the simple reason it has a shipping port, a country or state/province that has a port will never go down in its economy as the goods come in and go out through that city/country.
Uganda is land locked it’s produce & products prices will always be suppressed.
How do you explain Rwanda?
@@davinmuhahala6887whats there to explain about Rwanda?Kigali being clean and less disorganized coz the economy isn't as big as Uganda's and not as developed as Uganda too,the best example of a land locked country doing well is Ethiopia
Boss, don't take everything people tell you on the streets as facts. Though Indians contribute to the economy i doubt it is 70% in kisumu 😂.
That Express statue looks more like advertisement for airline company - I think Skyward Express. About Kisumu Indians, they were not from UG, they actually came with the railway line.
Although most Africans opt to labor alone and never realize their dream, Africans may learn a lot from these Indians, including that financial independence can be achieved through teamwork. Imagine if all the women at the market banded together to open a big business that served as a food store.
You picked someone with very little knowledge of kisumu he is not even a "local". Kisumu is rich historically and much deeper than what the young man is telling you.
He always seems to get people with little or no knowledge of the place he's visiting 😮
The question of Kenyan Indian and Kenyan White is tricky .
Prominent Kenyan Indians that participated in Independence struggle include Pio Gama Pinto, Makhan Singh and others .
Prior to Independence Kenyan Asians including Indians together with Kenyan Arab were second class citizen while the indigenous black were third class .
Before independence indigenous Kenyans were black-African/ethnic by law .
Post independence changed that more towards nationality/ethnic .
Urban areas including Nairobi and Kisumu were segregated .
Kenyan Indians in Nairobi and Kisumu have largely maintained their precolonial residences .
White also in some parts of Rift Valley .
But other Whites in Kenya fled to Rhodesia(Zimbabwe) and South Africa during the MAU MAU uprising(400,000-1million black indigenous Kenyans died/displaced) and at least half a million were in Conct. Camps .
At Independence,1963, THURGOOD MARSHALL (First black US Chief Justice) helped write Kenya's Independence constitution that protected racial minorities(white, Asian/Arab,Indian,others etc) as a result Indians were protected by constitution .
He was a Friend of Jomo Kenyatta, Oginga Odinga and Tom Mboya Kenya's Independence Nationalists and advised them not to repeat the mistakes of the US .
Tom Mboya and Dr. Martin Luther King were close .
Hence to this day racial minorities have had it good in Kenya .
Unfortunately that privilege has sometimes been misused .
@@papd3532 exactly the reason they were given Milimani in Kisumu,Ngara and Parklands in Nairobi.
This is very informative! Thanks!
But most of it is wrong information 😅😅😅
It's not unfortunately 😂
Bwana Mayanja i have liked how you've improved your interview game and presentation. Some more training and experience then you will be there. Keep on, Country man.
watching from dar, tz
Asians were the backbone of the Ugandan economy. After Idi Amin ordered them out, everyone knows what happened to the economy.
Running family businesses is not easy and handing them to novices in Uganda during the Amin regime was a very costly lesson.
Now Ugandan’s are maturing and learning to run their economy but the few Asian businesses are still at the top.
But what was the story behind it?
@, mainly to get into power by misleading and spreading hate against the Asian community.
It is said that when Amin would walk downtown Kampala he'd see the word "SALE" on all the shops. He'd ask, "who's this SALLE who seems to own all the shops in Kampala?"
This may not be true.
Nice and clean.
In 1971 Idi Amin staged a coup against President Milton Obote and became president of Uganda .
Milton Obote had criticized the apartheid regime in South Africa and the UK government detested his position on South Africa . Britain then supported Idi Amin’s coup against Milton Obote .
First here 🙌🏽
Yoweri Museveni had in 1986 become the president of Uganda after President Gen Tito Okello who,with the help of his army commander Gen Bazilio Olara Okello,staged a coup against President Milton Obote .
Paul Kagame,a Banyarwanda tutsi had fought alongside Yoweri Museveni between 1981-86 and by 1990 left for the US military training on a Ugandan passport .
In Uganda in 1987 a rebellion-against-Yoweri-Museveni-was launched by-LRA-Luo-Acholi led by-JOSEPH-KONY , Alice Auma Lakwena , Dominic Ongwen , Vincent Otti, Okot Odhiambo ,Raska Lukwiya ,Nixman Opuk Oryanga ,Ceaser Achellum ,Bunia Ochan,Lt Col Opiyo Sam,George Omona(Kony bodyguard),Lt Col Okello Michael and others .
The LRA Luo-Acholi rebellion-in-Uganda led by JOSEPH KONY ,Okot Odhiambo, Lt Col Okello Michael, Lt Col Opiyo Sam, Alice Auma Lakwena, Dominic Ongwen et al, lasted from 1987-2017 .
One of the most-protracted and longest-rebellions in human history .
By 1990 Banyarwanda tutsi led by Fred Rwigema , who had been deputy defense minister in Uganda, had launched an offensive against president Juvenal Habyarimana of Rwanda, a Banyarwanda hutu .
After the death of Fred Rwigema Paul Kagame returned to Rwanda and became head of Rwanda Patriotic Front, RPF (The precursor to RPF ,Rwanda Alliance for National Unity,RANU, was founded in 1979 in Nairobi Kenya by Banyarwanda tutsi exiles) .
Juvenal Habyarimana plane was downed in 1994 . By 1996 Paul Kagame and Yoweri Museveni supported Laurent Kabila against President Mobutu Sese Seko in Congo .
Laurent Kabila was also supported by Banyarwanda tutsi in Congo(Banyamulenge) who form the bulk of M23 led by Sultani Makenga and Laurent Nkunda .
Laurent Kabila became President in Congo in 1997 .
Paul Kagame became president in Rwanda in 2000 .
The International Court has opened investigative prosecution files on Yoweri Museveni and son Gen Muhoozi Kainerugaba on war crimes in Northern and Eastern Uganda, Rwanda, Burundi, Sudan, CAR, Chad and DRC Congo together with human rights violations in Uganda .
That story about Indians being chased from Uganda is questionable. Most Indians immigrated to Kenya in 1895 at the creation of the British East African Protectorate. Vasco Da Gama also recorded encountering Indians along the coast of East Africa in the 15th Century in Malindi. Bank of India existed in Kisumu in 1913 before Idi Amin. The Siri Guru Singh Saba Temple was built in Kisumu in 1913. We have had Indians living in Kendu Bay from time immemorial. Kisii town as well -A Jiwa Shamji (Hardware Store) was my father's friend from the 1940s and 1950s to the 90's when they were old men and anyone who is in their 50s can remember the trailer truck company of Kendu Bay - the maroon trailers that were operated by an Indian for the longest time...forgot his name. I'm from Kendu Bay, plus history books.
Though Indian contribution is remarkable, most of the native Indians went to Uk, the current population is far from the way it used to be. When we came to Kisumu, Milimani, Patel Flats were exclussively Indians. Now maybe under 50%.probably 30% or 40%.
In 1985 regional/nepotistic disagreements between Uganda National Liberation Army Commander, General Tito Okello(Luo-Acholi) and President Milton Obote(Luo-Langi) over the promotion of Smith Acak Opon(Luo-Langi) to replace the late Gen Oyite Ojok(Luo-Langi) instead of General Bazillio Okello(Luo-Acholi) caused a coup against Milton Obote .
Gen Tito Okello became president(1985-86) and Gen Bazillio Olara Okello became army commander in Uganda . Daniel Moi of Kenya called peace talks in Nairobi between Yoweri Museveni and Gen Tito Okello .
The agreement(witnessed by Ambassador Bethwell Kiplagat of Kenya) required Gen Tito Okello to be president and Yoweri Museveni to be vice president .
Gen Tito Okello proposed his nephew, Oxford and Harvard Trained Fulbright Scholar, Uganda Lawyer exiled in Kenya Ambassador Olara Otunnu(Luo-Acholi) to be president after transition to civilian rule .
Gen Bazillio Olara Okello proposed London based Oxford trained Urologist Dr Henry Obonyo(Luo-Acholi) to be president after military transition .
THE TALKS COLLAPSED when Soldiers allied to Yoweri Museveni and led by Rwandans Paul Kagame and Fred Rwigema continued a push against Gen Tito Okello led Soldiers mostly Luo-Acholi , Luo-Langi in Uganda previously including Major Stephen Abili , Lt Col Wilson Okonga ,John Ogole and others .
Yoweri Museveni deliberately sabotaged the talks with Daniel Moi in Nairobi Kenya and would thereafter maintain a strained relationship with Daniel Moi .
The initial plan by Uganda under Yoweri Museveni after 1986 was to send Paul Kagame to Nigeria for military training, Fred Rwigyema to US for military training and Peter Baingana to Russia for military training .
Plans by Uganda to send Banyarwanda tutsi RPF(Rwanda Patriotic Front) Leaders Paul Kagame to Nigeria for military training,Fred Rwigyema to US for military training and Peter Baingana to Russia for military training were intended to scuttle their attempts at invading Rwanda after their secret plans were leaked to the Uganda government .
Uganda had just come out of 3 successive coups and a rebellion was brewing against Yoweri Museveni by LRA Luo-Acholi led by JOSEPH KONY . An unstable Rwanda would create problems for Uganda .
Paul Kagame caught wind of Uganda’s plan and convinced Fred Rwigyema not to go to US . Fred Rwigyema was the defacto leader of RPF(Rwanda Patriotic Front) .
He informed the Uganda government of his plans not to attend the US military training course . There was disappointment from Yoweri Museveni side .
The Uganda government insisted that Paul Kagame has to go to US for military training since Fred Rwigyema had rejected the offer . The goal was to scuttle RPF efforts to invade Rwanda by separating RPF leaders. Paul Kagame,Fred Rwigyema and Peter Baingana did not want to delay their plans .
Your tour guide is lying in a daylight 😂ati jaralam it's only for Indians😂its an international school for everyone..I can see u don't need a tour guide even the other ladies were spreading false information
The biggest contributors to the growth of Kisumu's economy are Fishing and Agriculture
Very true
Beautiful ❤️😻
Indians in Kisumu are not originally from Uganda. The majority came directly from India and settled in Kisumu around 1900.Additionally, many Ugandan Indians moved to Nairobi and Malindi, while others returned to India. Furthermore, Indians in Kisumu do not control 70% of the economy that claim is baseless and incorrect.
Kisumu buildings looks old like Durban buildings in South Africa
WE love indians alot even though they are not indians they are kenyans by birth thats why they are kenyans others even sees india on the map.
You a African will get the caste system treatment in India no one will show you LOVE
You love them, the way they treat their Kenyan workers so poorly??
@@bellaolum9768aa ! yawa nyathiwa iwachadier😄
@@danielathiambo5714 😅😅😅😅😅
@@bellaolum9768 wariemb gi uru kosonade?😃
A lie, Jalaram is not only Indian school, a total lie! Go there right now and see, I have friends and neighbors who take their kids there.., only that it is expensive but not only Indian, go there from around 4pm, see the black parents many, infact they are majority!!., this guys seem to be clueless about Kisumu, they don't have facts are giving their thoughts 😂😂😂..,
@FestusJoseph-v5y It's unfortunate, that guy is giving wrong info....
I also don't believe indians own 70% businesses there
@@FestusJoseph-v5y It was initially targeting indian since it offered only GCE and Cambridge, but now with significant reduction of indians population, it should be multi racial. There was one called Kisumu international school which later changed to Brookhouse that was 90% whites. There is Mudasa in Tom Mboya which is also international. By 90s Kisumu Milimani was almost exclussively Indian. Not the case anymore since since there has been arise in black middle class in Kisumu. I was around when Lolwe started.
@@FestusJoseph-v5y One thing about Kisumu is that it probably has the best public primary schools in Kenya.
Most of these kids know little about Kisumu. Victoria park was called asuch because it was close to victoria primary. Its name officially has always been Jamhuri park.
Man show them our East Africa👍
Guru Nanak is a Sikh hospital
Next kisii
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In South Africa the Khan surname is for Indians
I hope they are also Kenya Indian as well! 😢in India
There are Afro Indians in india and they came from East Africa. They identify as Indian just like Kenyan indians are now considered a Kenyan tribe.
@@likatalikata3823 Tribe of outsiders 😂😂😂.
Very litle trafick in kisumu almost zero
Once again, your research is wanting. I have noticed that your interviewees are somewhat clueless.
It can never be 70 all those business shops you are crossing along the streets are not indian owned you can see,bt i must say they contribute alot say 20 -25 percent 70 is a big lie
What are you doing giving glory to Indians for how Kisumu is? No offence here but be careful. The Luo love people so Indians may feel welcome in that city from what I hear. However, Kenyans are complaining that Indians do not pay the blacks well, there are discrimination claims. Please check other bloggers etc.
So do blacks pay blacks well.?? Your worst enemy (Ruto and Co) are all black ... Use your head 😂
Most of them are racists
Blue is for Blue economy.
2024 only Indian schools Kenya come on smell the coffee
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Population of Indians in Africa 3 million . More Indians in US(5million) than in entire continent of Africa . Africa continent . India Country . Africa 12 times larger than India with more resources .
Population India 1960, 450 million .
Population Africa 1960, 285 million .
Population India 2000, 1.1billion .
Population Africa 2000, 820million .
Population India 2023 ,1.41 billion .
China population 1.4 billion .
Population Africa continent 1.46 billion in 2023 .
Some countries have a history with Indians , Some don't e.g South Africa 1.3 million Indians . Mauritius ,Tanzania, Kenya Indians etc . Less than 4000 Indians in Rwanda .
India the size of DRC Congo . Today India population 1.45Billion,DRC Congo population 110million .
@@papd3532 Man, if DRC could get its shit together, build its police and military for security, educate its population and harness all its resources it will be a country to envy. I pray one day it prospers, sadly not in my lifetime. The corrupt african politicians are here for many generations to come, they hate african development for sure, holding the continent back for their own richness.
Why Uganda still hate Indian?😢
Why Indians practice caste system against dark peopl?
That guy is lying! Kenyan Indians in Kisumu did not come from Uganda. Got back to school!
About jalaram he dint get it right,there is no indian only school in kisumu or hosiptal
What a lopside history of Kisumu. Kindly note this for your record. The Indians in Kisumu did not come from Uganda. The Indians Iddi Amin chased went to Britain. The Indians in Kisumu are descendants of Railway builders who built the line from Mombasa to Kisumu. They are part and parcel of the Kisumu community and have been here since 1901 when the railway reached Port Florence. Tell that guy speaking pseudo history in confidence to get his facts rights. Ong'er.
IN the grand scheme of things, they really are not that important to Kenya's econnomy even though a few of them are doing okay.
Aga Khan is not indian, it's Pakistani, I dont know why people believe it's indian
India and Pakistan same people same ethnic groups just different predominant religion with India pre-dominantly Hindu/Sikh and Pakistan predominantly Muslim and different Nationalities .
Same way Nilotic Luo of Tanzania, Uganda, Kenya, DRC Congo, Ethiopia Gambella/Eritrea, Chad, Central Africa Republic, SUDAN/Lower Egypt etc ,same people different Nationalities .
Kisumu is so much beter than eldoret
Kenya is 1000% better, safer, more literate, learnt and advance than Uganda. Kenyan don't have that shitty thinking as of ugandans jealous of others. That's why Kenya is too much developed than UG. Accept hard facts.
RUclipsrs don't even fact check information before they post😏.. Please find ppl with knowledge of a place..Thank you!
Lawrence you ask your guests very relevant questions,,,you show you have a garb of what you do,,,being meticulous
Overstayed in Kisumu move to another city 😊