Same! I love it! There’s not a whole lot of guides on this first one, that aren’t in Japanese anyway. This guy and Backlog Battle have some really great guides. I found out about and then started this series when Ryza 3 came out recently and I really wanted to play the whole series so I could fully enjoy the 3rd one.
Same, thx to this series I know how to prepare to make the ultimate weapons once I feel ready to try and make them. This has been very useful as I was having trouble early game as in my mind all jrpgs are easy early game so don't bother with upgrading gear unless you find it. That logic made the first and second boss fights hard especially as I didn't know how extra actions worked.
Thank you for explaining this. This is my first time playing a game in this series, and I was having trouble grasping the full complexity of the crafting system. Your demonstration was just what I needed to get me past that intellectual block.
This was very helpful, thank you. I've been playing this game recently, and it seemed like all guides were either for people who know nothing at all, or already have max everything. This is exactly the kind of mid game tip I was looking for.
I just crafted a 999 perfect quality and effect mystic seed through making a regular plant seed and in the process I learned how to make water and plant seeds it's really nifty doing quality looping thanks sooop much for showing me this you now have a new subscriber 💕💕💕💕💕💋
Hi there. Quality looping makes sense in the case of recipes where you have to use ingredients you have to craft, like the zettel and the water orb, but the seed recipes don't require any crafted materials. Only gathered. How am I supposed to get, say, a 999 quality plant seed using this?
Hai Primalliquid Now that theres a update, can u tell us what best stuff to use with the new upgrade weapons thing? Thanks And also my stats are now above +1800 in everything! i can beat almost every extra boss on legendary with no problem! the only ones that kinda fight back are dark element and queen of shadows.
Well my first item was 999 Natural Cloth and I used only Alchemy Fibers/Natural cloths, put them into each other with quality and quality+, not sure why the faq I used mentioned zettel (I guess to spread the quality?). Though I hadn't used it yet, don't need it until later, but I'm still just playing through the main part until I get the multicauldron (whatever it is called..). EDIT: NVM I read it again and all those extra steps were for making more Natural Cloths without duplication. Also yeah this also is a category thing so quality/duplication isn't everything, you need 999 seeds also (green supplement+honey), sure helps just to get 999 1st though and not use it prematurely.
I just don't get it - what should I start? How should I get a high quality traits from plant essence or another item? I playing on normal level and have a 46 alchemy level!
Philosopher's stone op lol. A few other items with 2 spread is dope as well (the 4 lief clover looking thing). Items that I couldn't drop in any of these 2 items, I just added in 700+ quality with best quality and quality+30 (I still haven't seen quality++) just enough to craft the item, and have the quality go to 999. Then i'd re-synth and then max the bonuses. Easy! Oh wow. I could sort by traits? Damn I did it the manual harder way xD. But you were doing like so many extra steps. Since you had quality++ quality+ and best quality you could have done 3 travelers orbs, then added other items in and max out the item before even ever touching re-synth.
What does quality affect in battle equipment and what does it affect on non battle equipment though ? Why it's better to have a high quality healing item let's say
Make zettel. Use it in water orb. Use water orb to make more zettel. Repeat. Okay, but how does this apply to seeds? Are there any recipes that use seeds?
After beating the game on normal, I decided to start a fresh new run on charismatic difficulty. Mobs in starting areas are pretty tough, but beatable with upgraded first-tier gear. However this rock puppet mini-boss (first kobernite ore source) appears to be one-shotting my whole party in just few turns despite fairly decent stats (lvl 12, ~100 atk/def/hp, ~40 spd). Any tips for that mini-boss? Or should I just give up and downgrade the difficulty? :)
charismatic wasnt really balanced around doing a "fresh" new game, it was more intended for NG+, my only suggestion would be brute force your alchemy level to craft higher tier/quality gear by using quality loops and things like that. otherwise just grind your level out.
Well, you didn't explain how you do this when you have no item with quality +, quality ++ or best quality to put in zettels or blue orbs thing. I litteraly cannot begin the entire process :/
@@hns_ss At the time I was writing I was at the endgame boss in hard difficulty so yeah... your comment is irrelevant. For those who got the same problem as me, I tried with other recipes that had quality or quality+ skills (no quality ++) and I managed to do get those lvl 999 items. You'll have quality and quality+ on almost all your items at first but you'll have to do the whole process again this time by using your just acquired lvl 999 items and keep only the skills you want (and not quality, quality+...). So you've got lvl 999 item A for example with quality, quality+, best quality and your newly crafted item A lvl 999 with supersonic, def+, skill damage+ or whatever combination you want that does not have quality in it. It's a bit of a chore but it worked for me. Hope it helped someone out there.
@Xerain House that's not it at all, this game and alchemy is terribly put together and confusing at every step for anyone new to the series. There are multiple ways of doing these things to get high quality items but people CONSTANTLY forget little steps here and there because they have played this game before. I've scowered the internet and it is all over the place and hard to follow. Not to mention, either the person already has high quality items to synth to make it look easy or someone just does it on the screen without explaining what they are doing. The guides are useless as well in game. Even atelier ryza 2 reworked alchemy because it was stupid to follow
So, there are no quality nodes on Traveler's Water Orbs, so how do I get them to 999 base quality? I got my Zettels to 999 base, but they aren't enough to raise the base quality of the orbs to 999. Do I need 99 alchemy to get the 1-2 extra added items (am at 81 atm)? EDIT: Figured it out. I had to not unlock the Seafood Trait node on my final synth and just unlock it during rebuilding.
they would indeed enhance the quality but what if you need different traits for your weapons, armour, accessory or items? then you wouldnt have max quality items. its not like its hard to do that 1 step extra and it saves effort and hassle in the future
When I'm rebuilding the items the quality drops from 999... not sure what I'm doing wrong. EDIT: nvm, I'm stilly. I realized I have to achieve quality of 999 WITHOUT quality boosting traits.
so at the end your zettel is 999 quality without trait but your water orb still need trait to be 999 quality? so now what is the purpose of making 999 quality zettel that dont need trait?
water orb simply hadnt been maxed by the time of making this video. The idea behind max quality items with no traits is that you can then use them in loops, put whatever trait you want on them and still maintain 999 quality, this way you can get 999 quality equipment and items with any traits you want as quality influences stats and item damage/effect
I made my boots with subpar materials and didnt pay much attention to the quality of them anyway since i was already going to hit the maximum stat boost from quality.
atm, none. My gear means nothing does more than 1 damage to me on the highest difficulty (even the optional boss) i out damage all items in terms of DPS without annoying set ups and i self heal like 7x my max hp with each attack.
Would you put out any videos by any chance talking about the new features that were added with the update? Or possibly any tips for reaching level 99 now that the level cap was raised.
Thanks Primal I'm able to better understand the alchemy system thanks to you. But I still have something that I can't figure out. I understood about the q999 for things that I craft (for exemple I was able after seeing your video to craft maxed out Alchemy Powder) cause I used things that I've crafted and were already at q999 ! But here's my problem, with seeds how can you get q999 with only materials that you can gather (uni, sapling, spice categories in that case) if you do not have the seeds to make them grow. Do you just have to be lucky and gather high materials ? Or is it gonna skyrocket with Quality++ and Quality+ ? I don't really understand that part... Hope you'll understand what I'm trying to say as English isn't my native language ^^
Just gonna reply to myself but nevermind my questions ! I did find out that Natural Cloth can be used as "Plant" material so that I can max out my seeds. Thanks again for your video Primal it helped me a lot !
So like, this is cool and all but out of curiosity is there any point in making 999 quality things, by this point you're done with the game. I'm just not sure what it's for (i haven't finished the game yet :D)
you can make 999 quality VERY early on in the game, and yes you want 999 quality for all your gear/items so you can play on the hardest difficulty/do the DLC bosses. if you dont care about that and just play on normal then no theres no point, but gear quality plays a large part in your characters stats (not reflected on the gear itself but is reflected on your characters stats page) and items do more damage/heal more with higher quality.
Huh. I just went to the DLC Bonus Dungeon, ran past everything, opened the chests, got the four Quality 999 Supplements, duplicated them (Really low cost for those), and used them to bump up the quality of a lot of my stuff. From there, I build off of the synthesis items to create a quality loop until everything that possibly can be built with 999 quality is, and then dupe that stuff. I guess it's similar to what you did, but skipping several steps.
No idea when, i got the game last week and finished it today, wanted to try make the 999 quality items, but only the first added trait is counted for the quality bonus. So in the end it took me a bit longer to get it to max quality😅
I know this game is almost 4 years old. But I just started playing Ryza and this video is super helpful! Thank you!!
Same! I love it! There’s not a whole lot of guides on this first one, that aren’t in Japanese anyway. This guy and Backlog Battle have some really great guides. I found out about and then started this series when Ryza 3 came out recently and I really wanted to play the whole series so I could fully enjoy the 3rd one.
Same, thx to this series I know how to prepare to make the ultimate weapons once I feel ready to try and make them. This has been very useful as I was having trouble early game as in my mind all jrpgs are easy early game so don't bother with upgrading gear unless you find it.
That logic made the first and second boss fights hard especially as I didn't know how extra actions worked.
Thank you for explaining this. This is my first time playing a game in this series, and I was having trouble grasping the full complexity of the crafting system. Your demonstration was just what I needed to get me past that intellectual block.
This was very helpful, thank you. I've been playing this game recently, and it seemed like all guides were either for people who know nothing at all, or already have max everything. This is exactly the kind of mid game tip I was looking for.
Next video : How OVERPOWERED can u get BEFORE the first boss? lol
Grind mini boss. .
ive played 10 h and i thought max quality was 100 wtf
999 is the limit.
Same. When I got 103 I was like: "WTF? *checks guides*".
999 has been the limit since Shallie.
@@VileGlory this was my first time playing any game of this kind hehe
Hahhahahahahahahhahahaha , me too
Seriously, thank you for making this.
I just crafted a 999 perfect quality and effect mystic seed through making a regular plant seed and in the process I learned how to make water and plant seeds it's really nifty doing quality looping thanks sooop much for showing me this you now have a new subscriber 💕💕💕💕💕💋
Hi there. Quality looping makes sense in the case of recipes where you have to use ingredients you have to craft, like the zettel and the water orb, but the seed recipes don't require any crafted materials. Only gathered. How am I supposed to get, say, a 999 quality plant seed using this?
in the video you said fibers go into cloth but how does cloth go into fibers? i dont see it
i just finished to story, now i'm tempted to make all my stuff to 999 quality to explore secret island thanks for this vid
Hai Primalliquid
Now that theres a update, can u tell us what best stuff to use with the new upgrade weapons thing? Thanks
And also my stats are now above +1800 in everything! i can beat almost every extra boss on legendary with no problem! the only ones that kinda fight back are dark element and queen of shadows.
Well my first item was 999 Natural Cloth and I used only Alchemy Fibers/Natural cloths, put them into each other with quality and quality+, not sure why the faq I used mentioned zettel (I guess to spread the quality?). Though I hadn't used it yet, don't need it until later, but I'm still just playing through the main part until I get the multicauldron (whatever it is called..). EDIT: NVM I read it again and all those extra steps were for making more Natural Cloths without duplication. Also yeah this also is a category thing so quality/duplication isn't everything, you need 999 seeds also (green supplement+honey), sure helps just to get 999 1st though and not use it prematurely.
I just don't get it - what should I start? How should I get a high quality traits from plant essence or another item? I playing on normal level and have a 46 alchemy level!
Maybe too late now, be do you know where I could find all the possible loop?
I can't get the rebuild high enough, I don't understand how to re-do the loop.
Philosopher's stone op lol. A few other items with 2 spread is dope as well (the 4 lief clover looking thing). Items that I couldn't drop in any of these 2 items, I just added in 700+ quality with best quality and quality+30 (I still haven't seen quality++) just enough to craft the item, and have the quality go to 999. Then i'd re-synth and then max the bonuses. Easy!
Oh wow. I could sort by traits? Damn I did it the manual harder way xD. But you were doing like so many extra steps. Since you had quality++ quality+ and best quality you could have done 3 travelers orbs, then added other items in and max out the item before even ever touching re-synth.
BOOM there we go. Thanks.
What does quality affect in battle equipment and what does it affect on non battle equipment though ? Why it's better to have a high quality healing item let's say
Make zettel. Use it in water orb. Use water orb to make more zettel. Repeat. Okay, but how does this apply to seeds? Are there any recipes that use seeds?
How i can farm a item with Quality ++ item?
how do u make alchemy fibers?
After beating the game on normal, I decided to start a fresh new run on charismatic difficulty. Mobs in starting areas are pretty tough, but beatable with upgraded first-tier gear. However this rock puppet mini-boss (first kobernite ore source) appears to be one-shotting my whole party in just few turns despite fairly decent stats (lvl 12, ~100 atk/def/hp, ~40 spd).
Any tips for that mini-boss? Or should I just give up and downgrade the difficulty? :)
charismatic wasnt really balanced around doing a "fresh" new game, it was more intended for NG+, my only suggestion would be brute force your alchemy level to craft higher tier/quality gear by using quality loops and things like that. otherwise just grind your level out.
Well, you didn't explain how you do this when you have no item with quality +, quality ++ or best quality to put in zettels or blue orbs thing. I litteraly cannot begin the entire process :/
you literally get them from just gathering normally in the game. do you want everything spoonfed to you?
@@hns_ss At the time I was writing I was at the endgame boss in hard difficulty so yeah... your comment is irrelevant.
For those who got the same problem as me, I tried with other recipes that had quality or quality+ skills (no quality ++) and I managed to do get those lvl 999 items.
You'll have quality and quality+ on almost all your items at first but you'll have to do the whole process again this time by using your just acquired lvl 999 items and keep only the skills you want (and not quality, quality+...).
So you've got lvl 999 item A for example with quality, quality+, best quality and your newly crafted item A lvl 999 with supersonic, def+, skill damage+ or whatever combination you want that does not have quality in it. It's a bit of a chore but it worked for me. Hope it helped someone out there.
@Xerain House that's not it at all, this game and alchemy is terribly put together and confusing at every step for anyone new to the series. There are multiple ways of doing these things to get high quality items but people CONSTANTLY forget little steps here and there because they have played this game before. I've scowered the internet and it is all over the place and hard to follow. Not to mention, either the person already has high quality items to synth to make it look easy or someone just does it on the screen without explaining what they are doing. The guides are useless as well in game. Even atelier ryza 2 reworked alchemy because it was stupid to follow
So, there are no quality nodes on Traveler's Water Orbs, so how do I get them to 999 base quality? I got my Zettels to 999 base, but they aren't enough to raise the base quality of the orbs to 999. Do I need 99 alchemy to get the 1-2 extra added items (am at 81 atm)?
EDIT: Figured it out. I had to not unlock the Seafood Trait node on my final synth and just unlock it during rebuilding.
Dude. My mind is blown.
How do you get the 999 seeds with those traits in the first place?
That’s what I’d like to know!
Do we really have to max out the quality to 999 before Synthesizing it? Then what about the Quality traits? The traits would also enhance the Quality.
they would indeed enhance the quality but what if you need different traits for your weapons, armour, accessory or items? then you wouldnt have max quality items. its not like its hard to do that 1 step extra and it saves effort and hassle in the future
When I'm rebuilding the items the quality drops from 999... not sure what I'm doing wrong.
EDIT: nvm, I'm stilly. I realized I have to achieve quality of 999 WITHOUT quality boosting traits.
where can you get sol flowers? I looked everywhere and looked at guides but no monster seems to drop it.
klaudia's father with gold coins
@@Primalliquid92 Mini Boss at Sanctuary Garden - Mirage Master (Rare Drop)
This is cool and all but how do u make or get quality +/++ and best quality??
Sad that you dont speak on atelier sophie guide whats up with that
hello, what if i dont have a quality++ to start with? do i need to farm it first?
If you dont have quality ++ i wouldnt bother worrying about the quality stuff just yet because it means your so early on in the game
@@Primalliquid92 i just killed the ravaging queen actually :)
I noticed that you're already using high quality materials to craft the seeds.
How do i use 70+ quality items to reach 999?
so at the end your zettel is 999 quality without trait but your water orb still need trait to be 999 quality?
so now what is the purpose of making 999 quality zettel that dont need trait?
water orb simply hadnt been maxed by the time of making this video. The idea behind max quality items with no traits is that you can then use them in loops, put whatever trait you want on them and still maintain 999 quality, this way you can get 999 quality equipment and items with any traits you want as quality influences stats and item damage/effect
@@Primalliquid92 so how to max your water orb?
unlike zettel, it does not have quality nodes
How to raise trait levels?
how to make mixing oil with ice element
Very helpful i just got 2 but bought 1 because i never played
"Max quality on literally everything you craft " side-eyes the god speed boots video...
I made my boots with subpar materials and didnt pay much attention to the quality of them anyway since i was already going to hit the maximum stat boost from quality.
Thank you. :)
man, ngl after watching this im still confused on this alchemy system.
Would be cool if u could show case some early game things , but great vid :D
I know right, most of his videos are for post games >_
Can you tell me, what combat item you use?
atm, none. My gear means nothing does more than 1 damage to me on the highest difficulty (even the optional boss) i out damage all items in terms of DPS without annoying set ups and i self heal like 7x my max hp with each attack.
thank you
Would you put out any videos by any chance talking about the new features that were added with the update?
Or possibly any tips for reaching level 99 now that the level cap was raised.
How did you get that costume? :O
It’s called the summer adventure outfit. I think it was a free download that was only available the week after the game came out.
@@thecrankymonkey77 Yea I've been googling and that's what I've read. Sadly no change room at the desk for me cause no costumes I can change into. :(
Hmmm... Okay so I need billions and billions of gems for doing this? TIME TO FARM!
I wonder how you switched her costume. 🤔
It’s called the summer adventure outfit. I think it was a free download that was only available the week after the game came out.
Tip for writing a guide.
Never assume your audience has played previous games and understand all of those mechanisms.
Thanks Primal I'm able to better understand the alchemy system thanks to you. But I still have something that I can't figure out.
I understood about the q999 for things that I craft (for exemple I was able after seeing your video to craft maxed out Alchemy Powder) cause I used things that I've crafted and were already at q999 !
But here's my problem, with seeds how can you get q999 with only materials that you can gather (uni, sapling, spice categories in that case) if you do not have the seeds to make them grow.
Do you just have to be lucky and gather high materials ? Or is it gonna skyrocket with Quality++ and Quality+ ? I don't really understand that part...
Hope you'll understand what I'm trying to say as English isn't my native language ^^
Just gonna reply to myself but nevermind my questions ! I did find out that Natural Cloth can be used as "Plant" material so that I can max out my seeds. Thanks again for your video Primal it helped me a lot !
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This video just assumes that you have 2 million gems just laying around.
probably because gems are the easiest thing ever to stockpile
So like, this is cool and all but out of curiosity is there any point in making 999 quality things, by this point you're done with the game. I'm just not sure what it's for (i haven't finished the game yet :D)
you can make 999 quality VERY early on in the game, and yes you want 999 quality for all your gear/items so you can play on the hardest difficulty/do the DLC bosses. if you dont care about that and just play on normal then no theres no point, but gear quality plays a large part in your characters stats (not reflected on the gear itself but is reflected on your characters stats page) and items do more damage/heal more with higher quality.
@@Primalliquid92 ty, that makes sense. I forgot about difficulty.
Huh. I just went to the DLC Bonus Dungeon, ran past everything, opened the chests, got the four Quality 999 Supplements, duplicated them (Really low cost for those), and used them to bump up the quality of a lot of my stuff. From there, I build off of the synthesis items to create a quality loop until everything that possibly can be built with 999 quality is, and then dupe that stuff. I guess it's similar to what you did, but skipping several steps.
I can’t understand it I guess I’m a dumdum lol
I really wish you'd make these videos more concise, there is so much information that isnt needed at all
Cheat table is so much simpler than all this steps😔 But I know that some people doesn't like to cheat the game
this thumbnail... hate this community love the games. why y'all so weird
N I C E
they changed it and now best quality / Quality+ and Quality++ don't stack anymore
wait, what? when?
No idea when, i got the game last week and finished it today, wanted to try make the 999 quality items, but only the first added trait is counted for the quality bonus. So in the end it took me a bit longer to get it to max quality😅
oh no, you need to unlock the trait nodes on the item for them to count
Ah that is why, no wonder it took so long for me, will keep that in mind, thanks😇
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