UMC-1500-DUO Cutting Demo - Haas Automation, Inc.
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- Опубликовано: 11 сен 2024
- Check out this demo showcasing some of the UMC-1500-DUO's abilities. We made the demo for our 1st Demo Day Live event this year and then showed the video during our recent HaasTec week of live streams.
Note: In case you notice the coolant stream seems pretty light in some places, yes we planned it that way to have the cut more visible where possible.
The Haas UMC-1500-DUO is like having two machines in one: a powerful 5-axis universal machining center, and a versatile 3-axis vertical machining center. We took our industry-leading UMC-750, expanded its X-axis travel, and added a stationary 32" x 18" T-slot table next to the dual-axis trunnion.
Set up 1st Op workholding on the t-slot table or use it to machine the 6th side of your completed 5-axis parts. Or, because the stationary table and trunnion platter are at the same height, fixture parts across both, and use the machine’s full X-axis travel to machine long parts.
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Amazing machine, you can prep the stock in a vice, mill it on the rotary and finish in soft jaws on the table, all in one setup
Anyone else cringe when the part gets pulled out of the chuck at 1:52? :-D
Uuuh good eye
Hahahaha not bad
I cringed at 46 seconds in. Dog leg rapids are no bueno
I am impressed. Music but can still hear the tools good job. Now run it in steel and you will have 1 more sold.
That may be asking for too much from haas
Those time lapsed tool changes aren't fooling anyone 👌
Haha we put the machine on feed hold after every tool change to wipe the coolant off the GoPro lens hence the time lapse effect.
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Great video...
The part where the cutting tool and base rotated through axis points was impressive.
I'd prefer to see a demonstration showing a large workpiece (one that justifies the large rotary platter) which then moves off to the stationary table for finishing, either before or after the multiaxis operation. Making different workpieces inside the same machine could be done on many other types of Haas verticals, but showing a large item that takes full advantage would be fairly beneficial.
isnt in 1:52 part moves on vice ?
Certainly looked like it to me.
Yep! That vice was not done up tight enough!
Oh yeah, it moved upward to the mill, with its cutting edges lifted the part like a corkscrew lifts the cork from the bottle.
Such a shame.
Good catch! We shot multiple takes and obviously chose the wrong one for the finished video. Nothing gets by you guys! - Haas Automation
Amazing job by Haas. I'm still on 3 axis vf2. Teaching myself 5 axis and Mastercam or else I'm left behind.😁
I am surprised you guys didn't populate the second op station on the trunnion just for that extra flex
That Al can be done on diy machine, show us stainless steel part :)
Awesome
That machine is amazing. I felt in love with it. If I had the money I would buy it with a DS30SSY and bar feeder
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That is mad the rotating platform!
cool machine, just wished the 5 axis tabel was on the other side. now it travels a lot to tool change.
I feel like it would be so much more beneficial to have a 5 axis and a vmc where both parts could run at the same time...
Cool machine but what’s the point?
there are some but if the are worth the cost? i don't know, pricy machine. Copy from spinner U5-1530
Lots of smaller shops would use this so they can do all their ops for one part in one machine.. You could prep rough stock, do the 5 axis work, then the second op, in one machine. Also some smaller shops want a 5 axis machine but may not use it constantly to justify having its own machine, so you could run this like a VF2 most of the time but still have the 5 axis capabilities when that job rolls around.
Ya when I first saw this machine I didn't get it, I still don't. Spindles are what make you money, yes this machine might take up less space and be a bit less then 2 machines but it can only do half the work.
@IX eleven i actually looked it up on their website, its cheaper to buy a umc750 and a vf2 than one of these... its worse than I thought. If it cost 10-20% more from a business point of view you'd be silly to buy this but its actually less this machine makes no sense.
@IX eleven the VF 2 and this machines stationary table are the same size, so no a VF2 would be comparable not a VF5. There really is no point to this machine. I'm sure if you looked hard enough you could find one very specific job that might make some sense on this machine but unless that job alone is gonna pay for the job 10 fold you'd be better with the two machines... and if thats the case buy something else way better... or 2 umc750's and 2 vf5's.
What's the advantage of this machine like let's say over a DMF180 from DMG Mori? (not a fanboy I'm curios)
price
Id really like to see a video on the haas vmt mill turn machine theres not alot of info on it
Nice machine, good job. Please come up with solutions to the paint problem. I have bought a new machine, but after half a year of work the paint inside it began to flake off. It is a new machine, but it already looks terrible. There is a VCE750 produced in 1998, the paint there is very durable and the machine looks fresh even today.
Our new vf4ss is only about 3 months old and I have paint flaking in numerous locations. It looks like the steel wasn’t prepped properly before the powder coat or paint. If it makes you feel any better though, our 2 year old dmg mori is just as bad
I don't have experience with these HAAS machines, but in the workshop I work in we recently switched to a different type of coolant to better preserve parts of the machine like the paint.
I am a machinist noob btw.
0:52 what is the movement of the tool ?
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This machine is lacking an espresso maker!!! bummer ;-)
Sad that this two parts not mate each other...
How can this machine knows part without probing?
You guys should try make SLS 3D printers!
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@Haas Automation, Inc.
Hello,
Could you please share radial engagement, feeds/speeds on the adaptive at 1:31 and end mill info (1/2"?), radial engagement, feeds/speed/ramp angle on the circular interpolation at 2:50 . Do you change the feed or radial engagement after the interpolation is done and starts the adaptive clearing, or does it stay constant? Feeds/speeds on the chamfering at 5:12 would also be appreciated.
I also have a question regarding HSM adaptive clearing on aluminum, how do you determine the feed rate if you are using most of the flute length and about 10% of the cutter diameter for your radial depth of cut?
I know most of the info maybe basic/common to most, but my professor didn't cover it in class. He told us to stick to tool mfg recommended feeds/speeds, he didn't mention that those numbers are only starting points.
Thank you
Is this a video to show us Why we should buy a DUO ????
Or it's a video Why NOT to buy a DUO ????
Still 2 machines with 1 Spindle ??
If you purchased this machine in reverse engineering ?
1 VF2 and 1 UMC 750.
Would this be a better or worse way to buy a machine ?
I would prefer one HAAS machine broken down hoping the other one is still running.
Not 1 machine that is 2 machines broken down.
I don't need to explain the benefits of buy 2 separate Spindles ?
HahahaHaas Maschinen. In Aluminium kann jeder. Wie lang habt ihr denn für die Programmierung gebraucht an der Maschine ? Oder kann man diese tolle Steuerung nur über Cadcam programmieren damit es jeder vom Büro aus kann? Und vorallem wozu soll das gut sein? Zwei verschiedene Bauteile auf einer Maschine. Nur weil es möglich ist, heißt es nicht das es Sinn hat. Wer alles kann, kann nichts richtig. So heißt es im Volksmund. Und bei Aluminium heute noch mit Kühlschmiermittel zu arbeiten ist eh schon fragwürdig. Luftkühlung sollte da reichen und wo wir dabei sind. Was ist mit Kühlung durch die Spindel bzw durch das Werkzeug?
Oder kann man das in den USA noch nicht?
Da lobe ich mir die Maschinen von so einem Deutsch/Japan Unternehmen.
uhm, was ist falsch an CADCAM und seit wann "kann das jeder im büro?"
ist ja nicht so als wenn nur haas CADCAM benutzen würde....CADCAM ist dem programmieren an der maschinen in jeder hinsicht weit überlegen, also verstehe ich dein argument was CADCAM geht überhaupt nicht.
die haas steuerung ist eigentlich ganz entspannt, bevorzuge zwar heidenhain, aber probleme mit haas hatte ich noch keine. habe auch schon haas in aerospace und semiconducter und sonstigen high-tech shops gesehen, die sehr gute und namenhafte kunden haben, wie z.b. ASML (die wohl dafür verantwortlich sind das du nen PC/smartphone hast), und funktionieren tun haas maschinen sicherlich. nicht jedes bauteil braucht eine kern micro hd, DMU 50 oder herlme C42, und für weniger erfahrene verspanner ist es vllt nicht so schlecht wenn die spindel nicht gleich 80k kostet wenn man mal einen unfall baut.
deutsche/japanische maschinen sind sicherlich nicer, aber kosten halt auch gut 3x-5x so viel, was nicht immer wirtschaftlicher ist, vor allem wenn der unterschied am bauteil nicht existiert oder relevant ist. alu kann zwar echt jeder, aber nicht für den preis. wenn dein shop fast nur alu macht und nicht gerade ultra-precision brauicht, was bringt dir deine tolle maschine die mit endlos saft superharte metalle zerspannt bis es keinen morgen mehr gibt.....wenn du es nie tust? da kauf ich lieber zweite maschine oder investiere das geld in tools.
Das ist wohl wahr. Wenn ein Betrieb die meisten Teile in Alu fertigt braucht man nicht wirklich eine Hightechmaschine. Erstaunlich halt nur das Demonstrationen immer fein in Aluminium gezeigt werden, fällt mir halt bei Haas besonders auf. Ich finde diese Maschinen sehr unübersichtlich von der Tastatur her und eine " mach mal eben" Aktion kann da schon ziemlich langwierig werden(kann aber auch daran liegen das gewisse Optionen bei uns nicht freigeschaltet sind) . Und du selber bevorzugst ja eine Heidenhain Steuerung, was ja für sich selbst spricht. Contra zu den Deutsch / Japanern sind leider ja die Ersatzteile bin ich ganz deiner Meinung.
Gegen Cadcam spricht nichts, habe ich auch nichts gegen, nur die einfache Werkstattprogrammierung sollte auch gegeben sein. Meiner Meinung nach. Wobei es da natürlich auch auf den Betrieb und sein Produkte ankommt.
Haas Maschinen machen auf mich keinen souveränen Eindruck dafür das es eine US amerikanische Firma ist. Macht eher einen China Nachbau Eindruck. Aber das ist nur ein persönlicher Eindruck .
In My opinion tool changer should be on the middle of x axis.
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At 1:30 it's not what I learned from an old expert, the rotation shall not follow the material. E.g. The outside profile shall be milled counter clockwise and the inner profile clock wise. That make less vibrations, smother surface and less risk that the tool hug and break.
You are talking of old style milling (conventional milling) which was for older machines that had backlash, these modern cnc machines are much better than the old ones and climb milling is now universal and provides better surface finish and longer tool life
@@Beldoras Thank you for that answer, I suspected it was something like that but it look so wrong for me.
But now I know why.
Can you made a small F1 car with this or not?
A lot of wasted time for tool change from 5 axis.
I’m sure it will be cheaper to buy two machines. 2 spindles and 1 operator
1.4301 Steel thats Note interesting
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Aluminium 😂😂
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pretty dangerous tool change movement.
Can you please next time use mist or spray cooling instead of all that streams of milk, flooding everything? Video is great, but not much can be seen. Installing workpiece, removing finished part, in between blurry and MILKY.
I'm quite sure the machine administrates the cooling according to the tool.
@@santiagoperez2094 sounds legit, but for video purposes speeds and feeds can be actually lower to avoid risk burning up or breaking the tool. Also it more enjoyable to watch.
On some videos, the milky stuff is what people want 🤷♂️
Не самая лучшая идея...
Почему?
your program makes me ache lol.
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