@Josh -_- the new update actually nerfed both the m16 and the aug. I don’t think they’ll fix the hit boxes. But they need to fix the dozens of bugs, and make it easier to level up weapons
I just got it done in like 40ish minutes with 4 people but I was the only one who knew what was up... It hurts to see what was somewhat nail biting for me be absolutely trounced.
how did they get the wonder weapon if none of the wonder weapon parts are seen on the kills/downs/part screen...did they get the gun in the mystery box?
One teammate used aether shroud to escape the cutscene when orlaf (or whatever he’s called) is being formed. He then instantly entered the dark aether and started the cutscene within nacht. As that teammate didn’t have aether shroud ready for the boss fight he downed himself.
Been waiting for you to come back. I’ve gotten back into black ops 2 and I just keep coming back to your old guides. You were amazing then, you’re amazing now! Love what you do!
As I said on your last video, upgrade the Hauer 77 and then get the task force attachment. Does an insane amount of damage, will absolutely help the playthrough. What he did with the Gallo is essentially the same.
Hello MrRoflWaffles, the reason that Zenith downed themself at the end of the Easter egg is that they had used their aether shroud to get out of the viewing room while the boss was going through his monologue. During this time Zenith was completing needed steps to make the easter egg faster and since they no longer had their shroud, they downed in order to make sure no zombies spawn in the boss room. Hope this makes sense now!
17:12 Yes him being down makes it faster since he most likely didn't have his shroud available so killing him self will force zombies to go for people who are outside (people with shroud) and a live rather than zombies going for him.
I thought on the last video that it was possible quicker, the last lot done incredible but they were quite unlucky at the same time. Didn't think under 20 mins was possible as you said though. Very clever.
18:00 Yes, his aether shroud was not ready, which you guessed correctly. Helaman bought the frag grenade and dropped it for him when they were picking up the photo, because he has no kills and had no salvage. So he could down himself and still skip the boss fight
Just to make things clear, only 3 of them stayed in the viewing deck. One left the viewing deck as the doors closed. It was easy to miss, you just have to keep your eyes peeled
Basically what happened is the guys who killed himself at the end used his shroud during the Combing Megaton part to get out of the room. This allowed him to activate the aether and get the ghost talking very fast. Him killing himself makes it so no zombies spawn.
@@royalts8434 not true, I even tried to take the correct aether portal for the diary as we traveled to the coffin and nothing happened it just blocked it. Diary never shows up. They patched it
One of those guys aether shrouded out of the room when they captured the split Megatron and was waiting in nacht for the rift after he breaks out and turns the lights off. There were only three people in the room waiting.
@mrroflwaffles really digging the new content you are giving us i.e. a logical approach to gameplay... I Love the story but im glad you are making vids like you have been... fav zombies youtuber is back... I Love your content because videos are made your own... OG ideas
14:30 my team was able to have one person out of the area, i was spamming x to close and it shut while he was just outside of the area and was able to move around the map. With this in mind someone could be out and run strait to the last ether portal to get the monologue happen much faster. (have recorded evidence)
I don't know if you noticed afterwards but during the long cutscene where you have to combine the two mini megaton guys, one of their teammates did aether shroud out of the gate and run up to Nacht so that he could hit the portal immediately.
Additionally so zombies wouldn't spawn in the Boss room, causing a fight between zombies and Orlov, which would ruin the time and risk the run as they can kill Orlov, additionally because he has animations fighting off zombies.
At 14:44 the team mate glitches out w aether shroud then gets the portal instantly.. at the end the 3 others have it and he doesn't which means he need to die fully to respawn outa there.. brilliant!
Milo I tweeted you, you can actually aether shroud out of the speed cola room and you can do it out of the particle accelerator room straight after the boss fight
I feel like that down in the boss fight was because he didn’t have his ather shroud fully charged so he had to die so zombies wouldn’t spawn into the boss fight, I think he might have used it to get out of the cut scene when they’re stuck in the room because they instantly went into the ather after that room but you have to run back to spawn to use that portal
During Orlov's escape from the pod, Zenith did aether shroud out of the room to be right at the portal in nacht. That's why he didn't have it during the boss fight.
Hey Milo, when you go down (and aren't revived) when you respawn you get 1000 points for each level that has passed. i.e. if you respawn on round 5, you are given 5000 points
MrRoflWaffles what happend to your ultimate guide i was using that to teach my freind that's gonna get the game so could you please put it back. Your fan
I would assume the last guy didn’t have a aether shroud so he had to die, also, you can aether tele out of the locked computer room when you watch the halves combine so they COULD shorten their time, ITS ALSO POSSIBLE TO ACTIVATE IT AND HAVE PEOPLE RUN OUT OF THE ROOM
Milo did I miss something or was there only 3 people in the room during the fusing cut scene? Because they popped the portal basically right after the fuse ended
@@spitznazical Update: Both the Scope Skip my team found and the Breaches Hatcher's team found have been patched. They no longer work, so expect for most of the Die Maschine records to be removed from the boards.
The scene for the megtron splits CAN BR SKIPPED! aether shroud through the gate. (Tier 3) You dont have to wait for him to escape. PLEASE LIKE SO THEY CAN SEE THIS
The guy went down during boss fight because he used his Aether shroud to get out of the orlov cutscene to activate the picture and dark aether earlier. He went down in boss fight cause he couldn't leave like the other 3, so he died so zombies dont spawn in boss fight room
he used his shroud at the megaton split stage to get to the portal used to get the family picture. he goes down for the reason you said ofc, his shroud wasn’t charged
when carrying the decontamination agent, you can move faster by walking backwards if you have tier 3 stamin-up because of the increased backpedal speed.
I have really liked this one at 5:40 but there is a problemo doing it solo... when you do the step ghosts and diaries it glitches out and the zombies don't attack you. Now the way to fix it is going back into the dark ether and when you pop back into the overworld they come after you. I have ungraded my weapons just farming mindless zombies, the best part is the group up in hoards like they all run to a specific point and group depending where you are on the map.
So just to be clear they phased out of the room where the final “battle” was going on so zombies didn’t spawn in there and the big chungus was able to finish the deactivation faster?
The only thing I am worried is that they are gonna patch some glitches and speedrunning community will get split between old version and new one. It already isn't a popular game to speedrun, yet it could be divided
Based on my understanding of the game's Mechanics, during the boss fight, if no one is there, Orlov would despawn and they would fail, so he downs so that he's there just long enough for Orlov to finish his dialouge, then the zombies would spawn up top, meaning Orlov can't die as long as they don't go back down
The person who killed himself didn’t have his aether shroud so he killer himself so no zombies spawned, he used his aether shroud on the viewing deck to start the final anomaly faster
There is actually a way to instantly get into the dark eather after the fusion and decontamination. If you are with 4 players, you need to frame perfect slide under the door when it closes. Then your out of the room when the cutscene begins. The person who did that can run to the place the portal spawns and instantly activates it after the cutscene. That will be a tremendous time save. :) Ive done it myself once, bc i was curious and it actually worked!
I just got both megaton splitters into the the vat at the same time. It didnt bug out, it actually let me fuse em still. Saved me the time of waiting for the second to go up
Hello my man. love the video (when im done watching i will) but whyd you take down the Ultimate zombie guide? I had that bad boy qued up to watch today and now its private :( when can we get that back my friend?
I actually managed to somehow cut the coffin dance time short in a solo run. I did the aetherscope anomolies like they did here and in the previous run (when i did the third anomoly it instantly teleported me back), but I think it might have been a bug, because all enemies were permanently de-aggro'd so it was pretty impossible to do any of the other easter egg stuff. Maybe only one person doing the aetherscope anomolies will cause that but i'm not sure.
Tried this yesterday splitscreen with my cousin but this map is so framey splitscreen and the megaton half got stuck under the map and we died to lag next round
U can use aether shroud to go through the wall in the cutscene or if u are fast enough u can just run out of the doors before they close when you follow him he just runs out of Medbay, disappears and the lights turn off but I just wanted to see what he did but you aren’t supposed to see it I guess
You can optimize the wonder weapon collection with trials. If you get good rng and you get an equipment kills trial, it only tales around 6-10 tomahawk kills to get gold. This is good because you only need 1 tomahawk because you can reuse them and it gives you a really good chance of the d.i.e.
“We’re going out to eat in 20 minutes!”
“Ight boys time to clutch up”
Such a dead joke now
@@younginator2012 no
@@younginator2012 no
no
@@younginator2012 no
The mantling is one of the best things treyarch has ever implemented into zombies, training has never been this much fun.
Honestly
This is my favorite zombies since bo2. Now they just have to fix multiplayer
@Josh -_- the new update actually nerfed both the m16 and the aug. I don’t think they’ll fix the hit boxes. But they need to fix the dozens of bugs, and make it easier to level up weapons
Yeah mp split screen is literally unplayable and half the time players are invisible but my only problem with zombies is that there is no split screen
What is mantling?
Already a sub 20 run and we’re less than a week in. Good lord.
It’ll be quicker than Die Rise in a month’s time
@@floydhebert3684 well no because all this shit will get patched out and then all the records will be invalid
I doubt that will happen with the next maps though. Atleast I hope they get harder and more time consuming👍
I just got it done in like 40ish minutes with 4 people but I was the only one who knew what was up... It hurts to see what was somewhat nail biting for me be absolutely trounced.
Fucking glitching though... it’s not legitimate
2 weeks from now:
NEW!! WORLD RECORD 0:30 Second SPEEDRUN!!
Imagine tho, completing THIS in 30 seconds lmao
@@3Radiant bruh lol
Check my stream for zombies
Lmao
how did they get the wonder weapon if none of the wonder weapon parts are seen on the kills/downs/part screen...did they get the gun in the mystery box?
One teammate used aether shroud to escape the cutscene when orlaf (or whatever he’s called) is being formed. He then instantly entered the dark aether and started the cutscene within nacht. As that teammate didn’t have aether shroud ready for the boss fight he downed himself.
I don’t think he realizes that when watching
Yeah no he didn’t realize it
Damn that's smart
There is also a way to barely get in the doorway and then back out quickly without using Aether Shroud
||Steve||: CHALLENGE ACCEPTED
Lmaoo
Lol Steve is the man
Steve is goated
Check my stream for zombies
Can’t wait😆😆
Them: Yes we got 20 minutes for the Easter egg
Me: Yay I got pack a punch ready in 30 minutes
😂😂
ong😭
He didnt realize that 1 guy wasnt in the room when orlov was talking
wait really? HOW!
@@MrRoflWaffles Aether shroud teleport through the door. He just waited at the aether portal in nacht to enter right when the cutscene ended
@@SamHaxin123 so thats why he blew himself up
@@MrRoflWaffles I think that's why one person killed themselves at the boss fight, cos he'd used his shroud to get out the containment room
@@SamHaxin123 you can just run out without using the eithershroud as soon as the computer has been activated
At 8:22 it is so satisfying to hear him say the word “seven” as seven minutes appears on the clock
Yo thats crazy!!!!!!
Speedrunners in a nutshell: Are you challenging me?
Bro they always get faster end faster even if its no longer possible lmao
What happened to the "everything you need to know about die maschine" video?
I knowwww 😭
Holy shit I didn’t even notice till you pointed it out
Fr bruh
Probably had something incorrect or something that needed to be added so it would get recommended uploaded
Its out
"They are playing on xbox" Thats my boys :) they makin me proud.
" Alright team time to investig.. "DONE wheres our chopper?!"
Been waiting for you to come back. I’ve gotten back into black ops 2 and I just keep coming back to your old guides. You were amazing then, you’re amazing now! Love what you do!
It genuinely makes me happy to see Milo back in this condition. So happy and committed it’s a reassuring feeling, keep up the grind.
As I said on your last video, upgrade the Hauer 77 and then get the task force attachment. Does an insane amount of damage, will absolutely help the playthrough. What he did with the Gallo is essentially the same.
Love how everyone has just been calling the big guys big chungus
I just call it big nigga
I call him Commie Daddy
Unpopular opinion: A speed run in my opinion is without exploits,glitches,or use of unintended mechanics.
I mean, that's why Any% and Glitchless categories exist
i agree with the exploits and glitches part but not unintended mechanics
Steve and scotti3: let us introduce ourselves
Rofl I really like the idea of you compiling all the best runs for us!!!
This guy :HI GUYS MR RUFLWAFFLES HARREE.
My depression: gone.
Idk his intro just gave me so much positive energy 😌❤
Now every 2 days: "NEW RECORD OMG 19:45 YOU HAVE TO SEE THIS" with a ":O" face in a thumbnail
Almost like he’s a RUclips that used good bait
iAmPhrogg he’s a youtube
@@A1-_- that's huge
Your commentary is amazing in this video man!
I couldn't believe that skip at the end 😂 I have to run a few friends through this tomorrow so I shall be requiring the use of Aether Shroud haha
When he downed at the end he definitely didn’t have his aether shroud charged. *watches 1 minute further* oh he figured it out
Hello MrRoflWaffles, the reason that Zenith downed themself at the end of the Easter egg is that they had used their aether shroud to get out of the viewing room while the boss was going through his monologue. During this time Zenith was completing needed steps to make the easter egg faster and since they no longer had their shroud, they downed in order to make sure no zombies spawn in the boss room. Hope this makes sense now!
Treyarc asked for this when they maid zombie characters a strike team
I am genuinely fascinated by this.
If you recall, the gorod krovi easter egg took at least an hour to do if I'm remembering it right.
17:12 Yes him being down makes it faster since he most likely didn't have his shroud available so killing him self will force zombies to go for people who are outside (people with shroud) and a live rather than zombies going for him.
I thought on the last video that it was possible quicker, the last lot done incredible but they were quite unlucky at the same time. Didn't think under 20 mins was possible as you said though. Very clever.
18:00 Yes, his aether shroud was not ready, which you guessed correctly. Helaman bought the frag grenade and dropped it for him when they were picking up the photo, because he has no kills and had no salvage. So he could down himself and still skip the boss fight
They literally did the easter egg faster than Milo could explain the steps in his guide
Just to make things clear, only 3 of them stayed in the viewing deck. One left the viewing deck as the doors closed. It was easy to miss, you just have to keep your eyes peeled
Basically what happened is the guys who killed himself at the end used his shroud during the Combing Megaton part to get out of the room. This allowed him to activate the aether and get the ghost talking very fast. Him killing himself makes it so no zombies spawn.
Milo can you go over the intel in die machine? I was going over some of the dark aether intel I collected and it was really interesting.
When I go to try to use the aether scope during the coffin Easter egg the aether portal anomaly is never sitting there anymore. Did they patch it?
You need to grab the aether scope AS you are teleporting to the coffin
@@royalts8434 not true, I even tried to take the correct aether portal for the diary as we traveled to the coffin and nothing happened it just blocked it. Diary never shows up. They patched it
Love that Milo only just found out about the gas thing, I already found it out like day 2 on accident
That was amazing from start to finish
Yoooo lets go i just saw Steve's run and when i saw 19 minutes I flipped
It was scottie not Steve but yeah same I was also surprised
scottie and steve are fucking insane they just break records on every cod zombies game
@@infomous51 steve has a 25 minute run solo go watch it its dope
@@drghost7283 that wasn’t Steve 🤡
@@Phaniac. go to Steve's channel he has a 25 minute speed run
The guy that downed himself used ether shroud to get out of the room after putting megaton into the camber.
One of those guys aether shrouded out of the room when they captured the split Megatron and was waiting in nacht for the rift after he breaks out and turns the lights off. There were only three people in the room waiting.
@mrroflwaffles really digging the new content you are giving us i.e. a logical approach to gameplay... I Love the story but im glad you are making vids like you have been... fav zombies youtuber is back... I Love your content because videos are made your own... OG ideas
14:30 my team was able to have one person out of the area, i was spamming x to close and it shut while he was just outside of the area and was able to move around the map. With this in mind someone could be out and run strait to the last ether portal to get the monologue happen much faster. (have recorded evidence)
thts like 30 secs+ shaved thats crazy
we breached that cutscene in the run using aethershroud
I don't know if you noticed afterwards but during the long cutscene where you have to combine the two mini megaton guys, one of their teammates did aether shroud out of the gate and run up to Nacht so that he could hit the portal immediately.
This is also the reason why he was the downed guy before the boss fight, he lost his shroud by doing this^
At like 14:13 you can see somebody outside of containment in aether shroud. It makes sense since they went into the portal super quick right after
One guy did shroud through the door in observation. I’m not sure what he did though.
In the living room ready to trigger the aether portal and start the photograph dialogue
@@tiggerblood you right
I think his teammate downed himself in the bossfight cuz he didn’t get his aether shroud. Not entirely sure tho
That is correct
Additionally so zombies wouldn't spawn in the Boss room, causing a fight between zombies and Orlov, which would ruin the time and risk the run as they can kill Orlov, additionally because he has animations fighting off zombies.
Yeah if any teammate is stuck in the boss fight they have to defend him on their own while the others are waiting to exfil, made this mistake earlier😩
@@UltimateZenith1 g
Nice vid man
At 14:44 the team mate glitches out w aether shroud then gets the portal instantly.. at the end the 3 others have it and he doesn't which means he need to die fully to respawn outa there.. brilliant!
13:18 yes you do go faster when using stam up on this part but it needs to be level 3
I love how you're able to do the easter egg everytime I try either a part is missing, Olvr is broken or the game breaks
Milo I tweeted you, you can actually aether shroud out of the speed cola room and you can do it out of the particle accelerator room straight after the boss fight
I feel like that down in the boss fight was because he didn’t have his ather shroud fully charged so he had to die so zombies wouldn’t spawn into the boss fight, I think he might have used it to get out of the cut scene when they’re stuck in the room because they instantly went into the ather after that room but you have to run back to spawn to use that portal
During Orlov's escape from the pod, Zenith did aether shroud out of the room to be right at the portal in nacht. That's why he didn't have it during the boss fight.
Hey Milo, when you go down (and aren't revived) when you respawn you get 1000 points for each level that has passed.
i.e. if you respawn on round 5, you are given 5000 points
He’s such a cheerful guy I love the happy energy he has
MrRoflWaffles what happend to your ultimate guide i was using that to teach my freind that's gonna get the game so could you please put it back. Your fan
I was watching it and then it just noped away and I was like "am I going crazy"
Wondering if he was cutting out some nonsense... 🤷♂️
@@marbo8855 maybe
same. i had it qued up to watch today and POOF! lol
@@jamesgraham5622 I know I couldn't find it today and then i remeberd i put it in my watch later i cheaked and it was a privet video
I would assume the last guy didn’t have a aether shroud so he had to die, also, you can aether tele out of the locked computer room when you watch the halves combine so they COULD shorten their time, ITS ALSO POSSIBLE TO ACTIVATE IT AND HAVE PEOPLE RUN OUT OF THE ROOM
Milo did I miss something or was there only 3 people in the room during the fusing cut scene? Because they popped the portal basically right after the fuse ended
How did they get the die shockwave so early
Coffin dance RNG
Really? So they just restart if they don't get it?
@@spitznazical Yup. Many restarts come from this speed run.
Yea that makes sense
@@spitznazical Update: Both the Scope Skip my team found and the Breaches Hatcher's team found have been patched. They no longer work, so expect for most of the Die Maschine records to be removed from the boards.
The scene for the megtron splits CAN BR SKIPPED! aether shroud through the gate.
(Tier 3)
You dont have to wait for him to escape.
PLEASE LIKE SO THEY CAN SEE THIS
that was done in the run
The guy went down during boss fight because he used his Aether shroud to get out of the orlov cutscene to activate the picture and dark aether earlier. He went down in boss fight cause he couldn't leave like the other 3, so he died so zombies dont spawn in boss fight room
he used his shroud at the megaton split stage to get to the portal used to get the family picture. he goes down for the reason you said ofc, his shroud wasn’t charged
I just completed EE first time (this is my first EE ever in my life)
I feel... mine was a couple of weeks ago and it was blood of the dead... still haven't done die maschine
mine was either shadows of evil or der eisendrach on bo3 but i cant remember its been years lol
Congrats
when carrying the decontamination agent, you can move faster by walking backwards if you have tier 3 stamin-up because of the increased backpedal speed.
I have really liked this one at 5:40 but there is a problemo doing it solo... when you do the step ghosts and diaries it glitches out and the zombies don't attack you. Now the way to fix it is going back into the dark ether and when you pop back into the overworld they come after you. I have ungraded my weapons just farming mindless zombies, the best part is the group up in hoards like they all run to a specific point and group depending where you are on the map.
you only get the godmode if you're near a ghost when it takes you out of the dark aether with the coffin dance
At 14:30 we gonna mention how one of the players didn’t enter the room lmao
he did, but he aether shrouded out
you don't have to be in the small room to activate that part, everyone just have to be in medical bay
@@anderonpilt7074 Yerb
@@anderonpilt7074 thats cool bro but he was in the room when the doors shut
You should have had the runner on commentary to better understand the run and the thought process for each strat
Milo, If you haven’t noticed, they were able to have a teammate outside of the room after getting the two bombers in the tank.
Yo what happened to your ultimate guide? Did it get striked or something?
So just to be clear they phased out of the room where the final “battle” was going on so zombies didn’t spawn in there and the big chungus was able to finish the deactivation faster?
yep, probably going to be patched tho
But I dont think he does it faster, its just to skip the fighting zombies aspect of the easter egg
I didnt watch all ur live but idk if u have done the jump scare easter egg could be nice if u can do a video on it
The only thing I am worried is that they are gonna patch some glitches and speedrunning community will get split between old version and new one. It already isn't a popular game to speedrun, yet it could be divided
Milo love your videos
Ahhhh your killing me man!! At 15:00 one of the teammates were out of the area there were only 3 and you said they were all there
It gives you a Thousand per round you’re spawning into
“The fact that you can parkour in this game is so unbelievably good. I’m so happy Treyarch had done that” but you cant jump over freakin crawlers 8:50
Bro I was gonna say the either shroud thing and then u say it😤God damn, I wanted to sound smart
Teammate probably killed himself at the boss fight because he didn’t have Aether Shroud because of lack of kills
You can run faster backwards when you have the staminup upgrade for backpedal speed during the golden ball step
Based on my understanding of the game's Mechanics, during the boss fight, if no one is there, Orlov would despawn and they would fail, so he downs so that he's there just long enough for Orlov to finish his dialouge, then the zombies would spawn up top, meaning Orlov can't die as long as they don't go back down
That's also why the skip works in solo
Hello MrRoflWaffles I can tell you about ps5 got, you do every day?
The person who killed himself didn’t have his aether shroud so he killer himself so no zombies spawned, he used his aether shroud on the viewing deck to start the final anomaly faster
There is actually a way to instantly get into the dark eather after the fusion and decontamination. If you are with 4 players, you need to frame perfect slide under the door when it closes. Then your out of the room when the cutscene begins. The person who did that can run to the place the portal spawns and instantly activates it after the cutscene. That will be a tremendous time save. :) Ive done it myself once, bc i was curious and it actually worked!
We had somebody breach the orlov cutscene in the run. Milo just didn't notice
@@helamanhatcher2496 oh lol nice one! was that the one who downed himself? Great speedrun btw!
@@kpzuur3524 yeah it was him
I just got both megaton splitters into the the vat at the same time. It didnt bug out, it actually let me fuse em still. Saved me the time of waiting for the second to go up
I suspect at 17:10 when he downs hinself is because his Aether Shroud is not charged so he downs himself instead
Hello my man. love the video (when im done watching i will) but whyd you take down the Ultimate zombie guide? I had that bad boy qued up to watch today and now its private :( when can we get that back my friend?
You just need to get wonder weapon from coffin dance
shouldnt count for World record with the exploid tbh
I actually managed to somehow cut the coffin dance time short in a solo run. I did the aetherscope anomolies like they did here and in the previous run (when i did the third anomoly it instantly teleported me back), but I think it might have been a bug, because all enemies were permanently de-aggro'd so it was pretty impossible to do any of the other easter egg stuff. Maybe only one person doing the aetherscope anomolies will cause that but i'm not sure.
Ayo what’s up mrroflwaffles
Tried this yesterday splitscreen with my cousin but this map is so framey splitscreen and the megaton half got stuck under the map and we died to lag next round
Not going to lie, this map is WAY to easy for anyone who's played zombies before.
Agreed. It is way to easy to high round. The score streaks and train areas are too good. I hope they release a more complex map next.
the whole point is so that it's good for the influx of new people playing the mode, and in that regard, it's done well
Ur my fav zombie u tuber
U can use aether shroud to go through the wall in the cutscene or if u are fast enough u can just run out of the doors before they close when you follow him he just runs out of Medbay, disappears and the lights turn off but I just wanted to see what he did but you aren’t supposed to see it I guess
Thank you for this great content
I thought the quality was bad because of the system but I forgot YT compresses video quality a lot
Damn my best time on old start is 33 min. I'm going to give this a try.
You can optimize the wonder weapon collection with trials. If you get good rng and you get an equipment kills trial, it only tales around 6-10 tomahawk kills to get gold. This is good because you only need 1 tomahawk because you can reuse them and it gives you a really good chance of the d.i.e.
coffin dance is much faster for getting the D.I.E.
UltimateZenith1 used his aether shroud during the creation of orlov