*Why was Joe at school if he was older?* In the 1850s, monitors or older children were used by the teacher to teach the younger children when the class was very big. This is why everyone was obeying Joe! He was in charge with the discipline. He was older than the rest, as described in the book and his beard was starting to grow. Not sure if Joe was good at teaching. He probably just told the children to read from their books and keep quiet. This is why Joe was watching the children in the school yard and that's why Joe entered when the school bell rang! Bullies usually ditch school; but Joe entered right after hearing the bell ringing. At first I thought that he was held back a couple of years for having bad grades or skipping classes but since he is attending classes, he might be in charge with discipline. Everyone was obeying Joe and he was keeping a watch on everyone. *In case you were wondering how old Joe is when Jack starts school* First of all, Acacia is older than Jack. She is short and delicate and looks younger but Acacia and Joe, as stated, were childhood friends . This means that the age gap between Acacia and Joe is not huge. In the book it is stated that Joe has the beginning of a beard, so he is older than 14. He looks older than 16 also. He could be 17-18 and Acacia 15 or 16. In the book Joe calls Acacia "the love of his life", meaning he loved her for many years. There is no way she is 10 ! Also, she went abroad to study. She probably graduated. Joe was either held back or he went to school to spy and protect Acacia and he waits there in case she comes back to Scotland; he is also in charge with school discipline and might be teaching to younger children. It is also stated in the book that everyone fears him and he is very respected at school (mostly because he comes from a wealthy respected family and that's why the others obey him but also because he is in charge with school discipline). Jack said that "even the wind obeyed him". Another reason, stated by Jack in the book is: " Joe bullied to calm his nerves...and sadness ". Joe's sadness is described many times. He is sad because Acacia left.
I just think Miss Acacia caused Jack to be heart broken by her by rejecting that he never stopped looking for her and he said you make me so brave I do crazy things for you. People do crazy things when they are in love based on true facts. But I just think Miss Acacia doesn't know Joe very well about how he torment Jack very bad. And another explanation how did Miss Acacia know Joe from the start. And how she sent him post card on his Birthday every year? Miss Acacia did a big mistake not to accept and love Jack this would never happen to Jack to died in the end. Also how Jack told Miss Acacia run away together and male their world like a oyster together. They should run for the Hills together and forget Miss Acacia last act at the Extranornium circus area and have a happily ever after life together. It makes me hate Miss Acacia now how she made everything happen Jack too quickly and everything. She should realize she couldn't fi d anybody wonderful as Jack is, Jack always willing to do a lot of things for her that's true love.
It wasnt because she believed Jack was the bad one, she just doesnt wanna kill nor harm Jack. He's deeply in love with her and it will cause him death if he continues, thats why she tries to leave. In the book however, she never believed Jack and it caused him to tore his clock to prove it is real.
I’ve noticed that the entire movie is kind of like one long summary of human existence. Jack’s cuckoo clock heart represents the constant threat of death. Avoiding emotions is a safe life while embracing emotions is a risky, though more entertaining life. His stepmom represents familial love which is unconditional while Acacia is romantic love, easy to spot and observe but actually earning her affection, much like traveling to Spain, is a ton of work. Then, there’s Joe, the movie’s personification of anger, violence, spitefulness and hatred. The more Joe grows, the more cautious he becomes, becoming more cunning, manipulative and deceptive. He could rip Jack’s heart clean out of his chest but he doesn’t because he wants Acacia’s affection, not because he views her as a person but because he views her as a trophy. Joe deserves her affection because he’s better than Jack in every way and this will serve as the proof. Honestly? Joe will probably dump her and have her deported once he finds out she’s an illegal immigrant, mostly because he never actually cared for her…
@@thelivingfreakshow5892 it's a common singing form in French music/musicals. The original version of this movie is French and the score is composed by a French pop/rock band. It's amazing how they were able to adapt the lyrics to English and Spanish for their respective version as well.
Eadlyn June It's because joe isn't really the bad guy. He told jack to stay away from his crush and jack asked too many questions and even tried to steal joes birthday card, breaking it in the process. Yes joe started the fight but so did jack ripping the paper. I will say though joe did try to kill him by tinkering with his clock heart wich was a little too far.
@@bubbles7259 Obeyed? Pfft no i think jack did perfect he couldn't stop who he fell in love with just because of joe who like her doesn't mean jack had to stop liking her he has rights he shouod never obey bully
This whole movie speaks to my inner melancholy. I hate Joe but art wise he's the PERFECT embodiment of everyone's bully. Mmm the slam poetry mixed with steam punk!!!
@P2K GURL No its not its slam poetry, slam poetry and rap have some of the same thing but is also different. Slam poetry is consider literature even though rap and slam poetry use rhymes slam poetry is more of a literature thing than rap.
How this scene should have played out, dialogue by Cat Platt (aka me) Joe: You gouged out my eye and stole my woman. Jack: You're kidding me. YOU'RE F*CKING KIDDING ME. Let's go over the things you've done to me. You've bullied me, you've tortured me, you've publicly humilitated me and you physically abused me. And you're acusing me for stealing a woman who probably didn't like you in the first place AND gouging your eyeball? I think one of those things are more justifyable than the other. Plus it wasn't even MY fault your eye is gone, YOU were CHOKING ME! So don't be blaming me for your eye problem. And Acacia didn't love you in the first place. I made her feel real happiness before her parents were betrayed. So don't give me sh*t about your problems, you whiney baby.
Joe admitted a lot of things in his final song, honestly he is a great character in general but the issue is I find his motive somewhat stupid. He is much stronger then Jack and killing him will do nothing but make Acacia hate him more.
I feel like this is all a metaphor of how a dude falls deeply in love and as well as the gal does the same. Spoiler: When Jack died in the movie, I think it was just a metaphor of him that the kiss felt like it sent him to heaven and as well as the cuckoo clock is his heart felt like when he fell in love
Also I think Joe manipulated and confused Miss Acacia about Jack and sabotage their plans to be together. I wish they would run away together early and forget about her last act and this would never happen to them to feel sad about everything. Also my curiosity what they do together in life and run away together by going somewhere I on the train. My guess is what place they would live and how they support each other with money and everything. I just wish they change the story around to see it better.
Also another explanation how did Miss Acacia met Joe and kept in Touch with Joe by sending him post cards many years? Also I think Miss Acacia caused Jack to be heart broken by rejecting him. Also Joe manipulate Miss Acacia about Jack, she should believe Jack is very kind and innocent. I hate Miss Acacia now and I wish that Jack told Miss Acacia early about making the world their oysters and running together too. Also they should run away early before Joe shows up and forget about Miss Acacia last act this would never happened and Jack wouldn't died at all. they need to make the movie all over again and change the ending about being together and Jack not dying too. I just wanted to know what their life would be together? This is the greatest love story since Corpse Bride and the Phantom of the Opera. Miss Acacia should be happy that she couldn't find a better man for her like Jack. He said he never stopped looking for her and he said she makes him fo brave and do crazy things for you. That's true love and people do crazy things when they are in love.
You should read the book. The movie isn't accurate. Jack doesn't die in the book and Acacia & Joe used to date, so no wonder why Joe got angry on Jack who came to steal his girlfriend from under his nose. Acacia was older than Jack. Also, Joe saved Acacia twice and those things weren't shown in the movie. Joe saved Acacia who fell in a frozen pond and rushed to save her when she got injured on stage. They only added the bad things Joe did, so people would hate him but he had a reason to hate Jack for trying to steal his girlfriend. Joe was also depressed after Acacia left abroad and was bullying students out of frustration and sadness. When Jack is presumed dead, Acacia and Joe become a couple again or marry. After Jack returns alive, Acacia dumps both Jack and Joe and leaves.
@@blackrosegardenforthestran4757 Just a question, in what part of the book is mentioned where Joe saved Acacia twice, and that they dated for three months?
The slam poetry is on fire I’m actually crying
@P2K GURL I'm pretty sure it's slam poetry
@P2K GURL but it does kind of sound like rap, so i can see the confusion
It's slam, you all need to watch the orignal version (un french) just for hearing his real voice
I couldn’t wait to see again my worst enemy, little Jack
And hearing that accursed ticking immediately took me back!
Same
*Why was Joe at school if he was older?*
In the 1850s, monitors or older children were used by the teacher to teach the younger children when the class was very big.
This is why everyone was obeying Joe! He was in charge with the discipline. He was older than the rest, as described in the book and his beard was starting to grow. Not sure if Joe was good at teaching. He probably just told the children to read from their books and keep quiet.
This is why Joe was watching the children in the school yard and that's why Joe entered when the school bell rang! Bullies usually ditch school; but Joe entered right after hearing the bell ringing. At first I thought that he was held back a couple of years for having bad grades or skipping classes but since he is attending classes, he might be in charge with discipline. Everyone was obeying Joe and he was keeping a watch on everyone.
*In case you were wondering how old Joe is when Jack starts school*
First of all, Acacia is older than Jack. She is short and delicate and looks younger but Acacia and Joe, as stated, were childhood friends . This means that the age gap between Acacia and Joe is not huge. In the book it is stated that Joe has the beginning of a beard, so he is older than 14. He looks older than 16 also. He could be 17-18 and Acacia 15 or 16. In the book Joe calls Acacia "the love of his life", meaning he loved her for many years. There is no way she is 10 !
Also, she went abroad to study. She probably graduated. Joe was either held back or he went to school to spy and protect Acacia and he waits there in case she comes back to Scotland; he is also in charge with school discipline and might be teaching to younger children. It is also stated in the book that everyone fears him and he is very respected at school (mostly because he comes from a wealthy respected family and that's why the others obey him but also because he is in charge with school discipline). Jack said that "even the wind obeyed him". Another reason, stated by Jack in the book is: " Joe bullied to calm his nerves...and sadness ". Joe's sadness is described many times. He is sad because Acacia left.
Ikr I said when I saw him isn't bro to old to be in school😑
'buy my mixtape'
-Joe
You will listin to it
Lunar Light I mean you're not wrong
I'd buy that stuff.
Seriously, this comment made me spit out my drink.
Lol
One thing I really hate is how joe admits that he tormented jack in front of miss acacia but she still believes that jack is the bad one
Thank you!
I dont really like her when I watched the movie. If he risks his life for you, surely you’d ask him for explanation? 😐
I just think Miss Acacia caused Jack to be heart broken by her by rejecting that he never stopped looking for her and he said you make me so brave I do crazy things for you. People do crazy things when they are in love based on true facts. But I just think Miss Acacia doesn't know Joe very well about how he torment Jack very bad. And another explanation how did Miss Acacia know Joe from the start. And how she sent him post card on his Birthday every year? Miss Acacia did a big mistake not to accept and love Jack this would never happen to Jack to died in the end. Also how Jack told Miss Acacia run away together and male their world like a oyster together. They should run for the Hills together and forget Miss Acacia last act at the Extranornium circus area and have a happily ever after life together. It makes me hate Miss Acacia now how she made everything happen Jack too quickly and everything. She should realize she couldn't fi d anybody wonderful as Jack is, Jack always willing to do a lot of things for her that's true love.
It wasnt because she believed Jack was the bad one, she just doesnt wanna kill nor harm Jack. He's deeply in love with her and it will cause him death if he continues, thats why she tries to leave. In the book however, she never believed Jack and it caused him to tore his clock to prove it is real.
@@bunbunchan406 I just have a question, why does Jack choose to die rather than live at the end?
Dude, you were like 18 when Jack started school, how sad do you have to be to pick on kids almost half your age?
They were both 10, in this scene they're like 14 or 15
@@pahharper that's some tall 10 year old
David R.Y. I think his height plays into why he’s the ruler of the school
@@megang5906 weird flex lol
David R.Y. 1:51 is Joe’s biggest flex lol
I always cracked up at how he sang with no feeling, such awesome poetry joe.
Same, this just makes me laugh sometimes
I’ve noticed that the entire movie is kind of like one long summary of human existence. Jack’s cuckoo clock heart represents the constant threat of death. Avoiding emotions is a safe life while embracing emotions is a risky, though more entertaining life. His stepmom represents familial love which is unconditional while Acacia is romantic love, easy to spot and observe but actually earning her affection, much like traveling to Spain, is a ton of work. Then, there’s Joe, the movie’s personification of anger, violence, spitefulness and hatred. The more Joe grows, the more cautious he becomes, becoming more cunning, manipulative and deceptive. He could rip Jack’s heart clean out of his chest but he doesn’t because he wants Acacia’s affection, not because he views her as a person but because he views her as a trophy. Joe deserves her affection because he’s better than Jack in every way and this will serve as the proof. Honestly? Joe will probably dump her and have her deported once he finds out she’s an illegal immigrant, mostly because he never actually cared for her…
i think he was more so rapping not singing
So basically "yes I did bully him for years and torture him and humiliate him daily in front of all his peers, but in my defense, he sucks."
Joe's spitting that fire
🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥
Pfft....you think THIS joe is evil?
Read the book.
Totally Fucked Up Alice TELL ME WHAT HE DO!!?!?!!
Totally Fucked Up Alice what happen in the book
😂👌 Jetzt kann ich es mir gut vorstellen...😊👌
What does he do in the book?
Oh please tell me! What's the book's name?
I think it's supposed to be like slam poetry not a rap. Just putting that out there :3
Allison Marie Its slam rap!
I agree
Then its art
#MommaKurt Slam poetry rhymes?
@@thelivingfreakshow5892 it's a common singing form in French music/musicals. The original version of this movie is French and the score is composed by a French pop/rock band. It's amazing how they were able to adapt the lyrics to English and Spanish for their respective version as well.
Joe, you skills are so on point I can't hate you! Stop this you Johnny Depp looking bean pole!
Eadlyn June It's because joe isn't really the bad guy. He told jack to stay away from his crush and jack asked too many questions and even tried to steal joes birthday card, breaking it in the process. Yes joe started the fight but so did jack ripping the paper. I will say though joe did try to kill him by tinkering with his clock heart wich was a little too far.
Eadlyn June i
Joe isn't the bad guy here if jack obeyed him none of this DEATH would've happened
Bubbles yeah but he never would have had those amazing moments with her.
@@bubbles7259 Obeyed? Pfft no i think jack did perfect he couldn't stop who he fell in love with just because of joe who like her doesn't mean jack had to stop liking her he has rights he shouod never obey bully
the girl was confused and she knew jack wasn't the type of person that would hurt someone but she went with jack cause she was scared logic people
This whole movie speaks to my inner melancholy. I hate Joe but art wise he's the PERFECT embodiment of everyone's bully. Mmm the slam poetry mixed with steam punk!!!
OH NO the depressing beat boxing is a comi'n!!!
LMFAO
I really really like joe and I don't even know why.
Gaunjee Major me to
Gaunjee Major thank gosh i'm not the only one
Gaunjee Major It's because he is a badass edgy villain.
Me too, kind of sexy
Kayla 🤢🤮
He spits bars
no he doesn't that was absolute crap.
@@JenaroSaldanaNah trust gotta look at the bigger picture he was spitting flames.
In french this sounds like poetry declamation, but in english sounds like rap 🤔
Your right
That's what Rap is: a poetry declamation and, in French, a poetry Declamation is made from Rap.
best white asf rap
Top 10 rappers Eminem is afraid to diss
Racist
Invader_ Whoa you can’t be racist towards whites LMAO
Its not rap its slam poetry
@P2K GURL No its not its slam poetry, slam poetry and rap have some of the same thing but is also different.
Slam poetry is consider literature even though rap and slam poetry use rhymes slam poetry is more of a literature thing than rap.
How this scene should have played out, dialogue by Cat Platt (aka me)
Joe: You gouged out my eye and stole my woman.
Jack: You're kidding me. YOU'RE F*CKING KIDDING ME. Let's go over the things you've done to me. You've bullied me, you've tortured me, you've publicly humilitated me and you physically abused me. And you're acusing me for stealing a woman who probably didn't like you in the first place AND gouging your eyeball? I think one of those things are more justifyable than the other. Plus it wasn't even MY fault your eye is gone, YOU were CHOKING ME! So don't be blaming me for your eye problem. And Acacia didn't love you in the first place. I made her feel real happiness before her parents were betrayed. So don't give me sh*t about your problems, you whiney baby.
*Yeah but instead he configured those feelings into a blinding rage and attempted to kill Joe :)*
"Also you killed my hamster"
still coming back in 2023 -- nostalgia, such an oddly interesting movie..
This was my favorite childhood movie😃👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻
Same lol
Turn on subtitles 😂😂
Mr. Cassia
I’m still mad that Joe didn’t showed us his scar
I love the rhythm of this song. Is there a way to listen to it without words?
Carefully.
At this part in the movie I was crying but I stopped crying Cus the beat was to fire
Every time you joe he raps
I’m not going to lie he do be spitting fire 🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥
“Losing your eye was your own damn fault” Penelope
I would so love for Lin Manuel Miranda to turn this into a Broadway musical!
Damn, that'll be great! :)
Ava Lambert YES PLEASE
YESSS
This rap is lit !
I don't know
Go watch the french version then. 😉 This one in nothing in comparision
Eminem Who?
So Acacia will mention how Jack popped joes eye but not how joe bullied jack
I never thought my favorite childhood movie would have a banger like this
I think this song is very beautiful but i definitely prefer the french version !!!! The voice of Grand Corps Malade is more adapted !!!
The beat goes tuff
WHY DID YOU REDO THE WORDS AT THE END >:(
I thought this beat was fire asf
One of the most darkest cartoons on my memory
Damn this brings back memories
1.5x and 1.25 actually sounds pretty good like he's rapping
Straight fire 🔥🔥🔥
This is how I feel every time I play Smash Brothers with my dad
Delta Gabriel ok this is pretty epic
Wait why is joe kinda….😍
I like how complex the characters are in this movie ❤️
Joe be spittin' bars🗣🔥🔊
I watched this when I was 8 now I’m 12 and remember that everything ended when I was 8 🥺btw I love this song ❤️
Hunny no XD same!
Joe snapped
When I saw Joe caming out of the carriage (first time I saw him): okay, I like this guy 😐👌
😂
oh man such a cold character, well he was a bully
Joe: quit your job
Jack: what?
Joe: Join my emo band
Joe admitted a lot of things in his final song, honestly he is a great character in general but the issue is I find his motive somewhat stupid. He is much stronger then Jack and killing him will do nothing but make Acacia hate him more.
kill who?
*Willy Wonka* : Am pretty deaf in this ear so u should "sing" a little louder next time
Im sorry but who else has a crush on Joe like i just think he is hot 😍😍😍😍😍
Goth daddy
me asf
@@succubunbun Yessssss. Like. I hate what he did to Jack but- he has the goth, the dom, and the rhymesss
No thanks, miss Acacia is prettier
Ypu got some problems if you find jack hot
Ayyyy bros rapping goes hard dis fire 🔥
Why is he rapping
we love a good slam poetry 💕💕💕💕
Nah idc what joe did this is still hard. Like he was horrible but damn he could rhyme
beautiful movie
Top 10 rappers that Eminem scarred to diss
We comin out of Edinburgh with this one 🔥🔥🗣️🗣️🗣️🗣️
This movie is a fever dream
This movie is the best it simply shows the good person dont win at all times in the end but the moment they had was lovly
I actually really really like Joe❤
Bro is poetic eminem
Bro this guy is so scary but he's so good looking to me but wow hes so set on her
I feel like this is all a metaphor of how a dude falls deeply in love and as well as the gal does the same.
Spoiler:
When Jack died in the movie, I think it was just a metaphor of him that the kiss felt like it sent him to heaven and as well as the cuckoo clock is his heart felt like when he fell in love
This is fire ngl I remember watching this years ago
mans still got bars idc 😭😭
Bros beatboxing
I remember this movie my sister showed me now that i watch it back their heads are so big
whens his mix tape coming out? id cop it
This truly is a strange movie.
Does he not look like Edward (twilight)😂😂
Also I think Joe manipulated and confused Miss Acacia about Jack and sabotage their plans to be together. I wish they would run away together early and forget about her last act and this would never happen to them to feel sad about everything. Also my curiosity what they do together in life and run away together by going somewhere I
on the train. My guess is what place they would live and how they support each other with money and everything. I just wish they change the story around to see it better.
Ik its supposed to be slam poetry but It still reminds me of that one kid in class who thought they could rap but they really couldn't 🤣🤣
I love the music, absolutely amazing
He was like 25 when joe started school
This reminds me of old fairytales because in older storys there was no plot Armour to save the main character.
Dude he acts like he owns the girl
Creepy and unsettling, he gives a dangerous feel...
I remember I loved Joe Joe I hot lmao and I loved this part idk why lol just gonna cry here tho
Also another explanation how did Miss Acacia met Joe and kept in Touch with Joe by sending him post cards many years? Also I think Miss Acacia caused Jack to be heart broken by rejecting him. Also Joe manipulate Miss Acacia about Jack, she should believe Jack is very kind and innocent. I hate Miss Acacia now and I wish that Jack told Miss Acacia early about making the world their oysters and running together too. Also they should run away early before Joe shows up and forget about Miss Acacia last act this would never happened and Jack wouldn't died at all. they need to make the movie all over again and change the ending about being together and Jack not dying too. I just wanted to know what their life would be together? This is the greatest love story since Corpse Bride and the Phantom of the Opera. Miss Acacia should be happy that she couldn't find a better man for her like Jack. He said he never stopped looking for her and he said she makes him fo brave and do crazy things for you. That's true love and people do crazy things when they are in love.
You should read the book. The movie isn't accurate. Jack doesn't die in the book and Acacia & Joe used to date, so no wonder why Joe got angry on Jack who came to steal his girlfriend from under his nose. Acacia was older than Jack. Also, Joe saved Acacia twice and those things weren't shown in the movie. Joe saved Acacia who fell in a frozen pond and rushed to save her when she got injured on stage. They only added the bad things Joe did, so people would hate him but he had a reason to hate Jack for trying to steal his girlfriend. Joe was also depressed after Acacia left abroad and was bullying students out of frustration and sadness. When Jack is presumed dead, Acacia and Joe become a couple again or marry. After Jack returns alive, Acacia dumps both Jack and Joe and leaves.
Did Jack know that ACacia and Joe were dating in the book?@@blackrosegardenforthestran4757
Yeah, but in the movie, Joe and Acacia never went out together
@@thehorselover2977 They didn't mention it but they were close enough since Acacia was sending him birthday cards.
@@blackrosegardenforthestran4757 Just a question, in what part of the book is mentioned where Joe saved Acacia twice, and that they dated for three months?
Joe stop beat boxing, jack is dying 💀
Lol Kendrick who? Jay who? Kanye who?
this gives me so much nostalgia, I watched this years ago
Wow nice mix tape Joe
If he was alive now he would probably be a rapper
Jack And The Cuckoo Clock Heart (2013) The Return Of Joe
I watched this when I was 6 and now I’m 11 I’m still scared of it
You're 13 now, you still scared lol?
You still scared at 15?
Pum ti pa pum pum ti pum pa pum ti pa pum pum ti pa pum ti pa pum pum ti pa pum ti pa pum pum ti pum pa
JULIAN YOU'RE IN THE WRONG SET-
The music sounds like a failed attempt at beatboxing
this movie traumatized me
I was obsessedfddd w this song just the whole movie tbh
Joe reminds me of the streets
For some reason he reminds me of levi
Levi Ackerman? Lol kinda but Levi isn't tall😂
Le Retour De Joe Par Dionysos
The poetry killed me 😩🤚
О, в итоге это оказался фрагмент из русской озвучки😃
I swear the song went harder when I was younger
I made a whole dance to this🤣
I was not expecting the Russian at the end lmao
same ☠️
Reimagine:
Jack: Earth and People
Joe: Covid
Mrs Accasia: The cure they both can’t find