That is way too cool. U guys in the woodworking community really know how to make STUFF using wood with nuts and bolts. I spend hours watching all U guys. Thanx it's better than most TV.
Great idea using a board for a whole sheet of sand paper to get it all straight. I never thought of gluing the sandpaper to the drum. I was always thinking of reusing the drums. I guess its cheap enough to make more drums... maybe spend a little extra on high quality sand paper to make it last longer. Good video Jack
You might add a bearing to the bottom end of the spindle and then make a table top with a hole just big enough for the bearings to fit in. this would prevent the sideways stress being made solely on the chuck.
I've made and used similar spindles in my drill press, they do what they are supposed to. But I suggest one small improvement; make a bottom support - a piece of board with a hole fit for the rod. This adds stability, especially if you happen to push on your work piece too heavily.
And if you want to make the bottom support even better, you can use a ball bearing with a bore size a bit smaller than your threaded rod. With a file you can carefully grind away the thread (while spinning the thing in your drill press) until the head of the rod fits the bearing.
This was my first thought as well, its cool but its not worth destroying your spindle. Find a small bearing you can press into a block of wood you can attach firmly to your table
Of all the DIY videos that I have seen on the tube yours are the best and the ones that make more sense. Very clear, no hollywood acting like most posers posting on you tube and down to the nitty-gritty. thanks for your useful lessons. thumbs up
Hi there, Sorry, I didn't read through all the comments to see if this has been covered before(sneaking in this video at work and need to get back at working ! lol). Just wondered why you haven't make a bearing race at the bottom to steady your drum/threaded bar? Just a square block of wood at the bottom that you can clamp to your table(even from the bottom), then have a counter sunk hole for the bearing. A small piece of wood can also be added if you wish OVER the bearing to prevent it from coming out(extra security). Then a through hole for your threaded bar. That should stablize your drum a lot. Hope my attempt to explain makes sense!!!
Hey Jack, nice job, but those extra long spindles are probably wreaking havoc with your drill press thrust bearing. All power drills use thrust bearings which are designed for axial force, not radial like regular bearings. When sanding, the longer your spindle the more sideways force you are applying to the bearing (via leverage) in a direction it is not designed for. To protect your drill press you should really have the spindle shaft extend past the bottom of the spindle and into a regular radial bearing which is anchored onto the table. That way you aren't putting undue sideways force on your press bearing.
I've heard the same thing. But I was looking at a Delta Drill Press advertisement in Popular Science, February 1951, p 249, where they say you can use their drill press for Sanding (they sold a kit), routing (they sold a spindle and router bits for this), and even use it as a shaper (they sold a three lip cutter). Were they advertising the drill press for uses their designers did not intend?
@Martin Green - agree absolutely. A bearing at the bottom end is needed. The longer the sanding drum, the more sideway force. @MetaMe - we will never know. 🇦🇺
A big thumbs up to all viewers who realize that a bottom support (preferably a sealed bearing) is needed. Check how much deflection your spindle is getting when you put pressure against the bottom of the drum....that will kill the upper thrust bearing in a hurry, it was never designed to take side loads. Make the sandpaper replaceable by sawing a thin slit vertically into the drum, so you can tuck the edges of the paper down into the slit, which will hold it in place.
Tip: You can raise and lower the sanding drum making a table set auxilar presses the head table. This side table would holes to allow up and down the cylinder. In turn the head table should move aside to allow everything works fine. Sugerencia: Puede subir y bajar el cilindro lijador haciendo una mesa auxilar fijada con prensas a la mesa principal. Esta mesa auxiliar tendría huecos para permitir que suba y baje el cilindro. A su vez la mesa principal debe desplazarse a un lado para permitir que todo funcione bien. Happy new year woodworkers. Thank you Jack for your videos.
Like the way you used the drill press support bar as leverage and get the angle sander to get the drums just right! And the twisted application of the sandpaper was great to reduce the "split hump" when sanding. Best wishes for you and the family in 2015!
I've used cylindrical rubber door stops. Even found some that fit the proprietary sanding sleeves! But I used a bush (hole in wood base clamped to drillpress table, extended centre spindle with sleeve from copper tubing; - a bearing would have been better) on longer sander to prevent strain on my drillpress bearing.
Thank you so much for your tip. It saved me $ and the frustration having to put up with the China made stuff that is about the only thing you can find. Thank you again!!
I watched this video yesterday (except about putting rubber bands around to let the glue dry). I needed to enlarge some holes for a dust collection manifold today so I got my hole saw out and made me a spindle. 20 minutes tops. I also used scissors instead of a paper cutter to cut the sand paper. I cut in the wrong direction - make sure you cut in the direction of the rotation of your drill press - DUH! Any, thanks for saving me half an hour with a hand rasp today ond no telling how much time in the future :>)
Good timing, Jack! I recently broke the shaft of my store bought spindle sander for the drill press. (they don't work in the router very well!) Plus I've wanted one of a smaller diameter. Thanks!
A router is usually too high speed for drill spindle sanders. Probably somewhat dangerous to use one that way, though the principle of a handheld router style spindle sanders is quite appealing.
I watched the video again and I'm afraid I wasn't paying enough attention the first time, I paused the video when you showed the brand of spray adhesive so my question's already answered haha Happy New Year by the way :)
I did a few after looking at your video But I didn't do the sanding to make it straight down as you did I used a file mmmmmmmmm not so good , I did put the vacuum hose behind the drill press for the dust and it worked good :)
I just got my drill press and am in the need of these. Did you let the glue tack up before wrapping the paper on them or do it right away and let it dry? How hard is it to remove and replace the paper? Thanks of the great, easy spindle sander build.
Now that's a tool I will duplicate for myself someday! Does it deflect much? If so, I'm thinking of using an all-thread rod that's a little longer on the bottom end so that the extension can ride in a hole, perhaps even in a bearing, to minimize or even prevent deflection. Your thoughts?
I am concerned about the lateral force being applied to the drill shaft bearings. It seems to me the bearings are for vertical alignment, and lateral force would cause premature wear. I understand lots of folks do this and even create a vertical lathe, just wondering about longevity.
I enjoyed the video, Jack and like the music you used. For future reference, I'd advise you to reduce the video sound volume (mainly when a vacuum or noisy tool is running) as it seems to impede on the clarity of the music. I've learned this the hard way myself and I'm sure many others have also. Am I right in thinking you only sprayed glue on to the spindle, so that worn sheets of abrasive can be peeled off and replaced?
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That is way too cool. U guys in the woodworking community really know how to make STUFF using wood with nuts and bolts. I spend hours watching all U guys. Thanx it's better than most TV.
This project should come under the heading of, "why didn't I think of that? Thanks Jack, for the video and to remind us to think simple.
Pretty neat Jack. Like how you smoothed the spindles using the column to make them straight and true.
Paul Frederick and who are you?
Great idea using a board for a whole sheet of sand paper to get it all straight. I never thought of gluing the sandpaper to the drum. I was always thinking of reusing the drums. I guess its cheap enough to make more drums... maybe spend a little extra on high quality sand paper to make it last longer. Good video Jack
You might add a bearing to the bottom end of the spindle and then make a table top with a hole just big enough for the bearings to fit in. this would prevent the sideways stress being made solely on the chuck.
I've made and used similar spindles in my drill press, they do what they are supposed to. But I suggest one small improvement; make a bottom support - a piece of board with a hole fit for the rod. This adds stability, especially if you happen to push on your work piece too heavily.
My thoughts exactly! Great minds DO think alike!!
And if you want to make the bottom support even better, you can use a ball bearing with a bore size a bit smaller than your threaded rod. With a file you can carefully grind away the thread (while spinning the thing in your drill press) until the head of the rod fits the bearing.
ArmasLahtaaja
This was my first thought as well, its cool but its not worth destroying your spindle. Find a small bearing you can press into a block of wood you can attach firmly to your table
Of all the DIY videos that I have seen on the tube yours are the best and the ones that make more sense. Very clear, no hollywood acting like most posers posting on you tube and down to the nitty-gritty. thanks for your useful lessons. thumbs up
Hi there,
Sorry, I didn't read through all the comments to see if this has been covered before(sneaking in this video at work and need to get back at working ! lol). Just wondered why you haven't make a bearing race at the bottom to steady your drum/threaded bar? Just a square block of wood at the bottom that you can clamp to your table(even from the bottom), then have a counter sunk hole for the bearing. A small piece of wood can also be added if you wish OVER the bearing to prevent it from coming out(extra security). Then a through hole for your threaded bar. That should stablize your drum a lot.
Hope my attempt to explain makes sense!!!
Hey Jack, nice job, but those extra long spindles are probably wreaking havoc with your drill press thrust bearing. All power drills use thrust bearings which are designed for axial force, not radial like regular bearings. When sanding, the longer your spindle the more sideways force you are applying to the bearing (via leverage) in a direction it is not designed for. To protect your drill press you should really have the spindle shaft extend past the bottom of the spindle and into a regular radial bearing which is anchored onto the table. That way you aren't putting undue sideways force on your press bearing.
Good to hear. You might want to make that point to your viewers. Keep up the great vids.
I've heard the same thing. But I was looking at a Delta Drill Press advertisement in Popular Science, February 1951, p 249, where they say you can use their drill press for Sanding (they sold a kit), routing (they sold a spindle and router bits for this), and even use it as a shaper (they sold a three lip cutter). Were they advertising the drill press for uses their designers did not intend?
@Martin Green - agree absolutely. A bearing at the bottom end is needed. The longer the sanding drum, the more sideway force.
@MetaMe - we will never know.
🇦🇺
Real genius is
seeing what was there all the time, when no one else sees it. Feliz Natal from Brazil.
If you mounted a Bearing on lower axle into a base plate it might improve stability or take more Sand pressure
A big thumbs up to all viewers who realize that a bottom support (preferably a sealed bearing) is needed. Check how much deflection your spindle is getting when you put pressure against the bottom of the drum....that will kill the upper thrust bearing in a hurry, it was never designed to take side loads. Make the sandpaper replaceable by sawing a thin slit vertically into the drum, so you can tuck the edges of the paper down into the slit, which will hold it in place.
Nice work. Much more cost effective than buying a dedicated spindle sander. I’ll be making some of these. Thank you for sharing 👍😎🇦🇺
Tip: You can raise and lower the sanding drum making a table set auxilar presses the head table. This side table would holes to allow up and down the cylinder. In turn the head table should move aside to allow everything works fine.
Sugerencia: Puede subir y bajar el cilindro lijador haciendo una mesa auxilar fijada con prensas a la mesa principal. Esta mesa auxiliar tendría huecos para permitir que suba y baje el cilindro. A su vez la mesa principal debe desplazarse a un lado para permitir que todo funcione bien.
Happy new year woodworkers. Thank you Jack for your videos.
I want to thank you for this. I was skeptical at first, but wow....this really worked well in my drill press and in my drill. Thank you!
Awesome idea. So simple yet so useful!
Nice spindle sander drums. Now you can build the drum sander table with dust collection.:)
Like the way you used the drill press support bar as leverage and get the angle sander to get the drums just right! And the twisted application of the sandpaper was great to reduce the "split hump" when sanding. Best wishes for you and the family in 2015!
So that is why the diagonal roll. So smart....
followed your method and THIS WORKS GREAT !!!! THANK YOU !!!
Excelente porta herramienta. Gracias por el video maestro. Saludos...
I've used cylindrical rubber door stops. Even found some that fit the proprietary sanding sleeves! But I used a bush (hole in wood base clamped to drillpress table, extended centre spindle with sleeve from copper tubing; - a bearing would have been better) on longer sander to prevent strain on my drillpress bearing.
Ingenious.....On the build and finish....
Jack is one very clever problem solver. Give him a looksee for me!
Thank you so much for your tip. It saved me $ and the frustration having to put up with the China made stuff that is about the only thing you can find.
Thank you again!!
Very clever Jack. Thanks for sharing.
I watched this video yesterday (except about putting rubber bands around to let the glue dry). I needed to enlarge some holes for a dust collection manifold today so I got my hole saw out and made me a spindle. 20 minutes tops. I also used scissors instead of a paper cutter to cut the sand paper. I cut in the wrong direction - make sure you cut in the direction of the rotation of your drill press - DUH! Any, thanks for saving me half an hour with a hand rasp today ond no telling how much time in the future :>)
Congratulations Jack, I made one just like this model after watching your video. I am now its your fan here from Brazil
Jack, estaba pensando de como hacer unos rodillos para lijar, y veo este vídeo y medio la solución, de la ciudad de Cali, Colombia...DIOS lo bendiga
Genius way to get concentric disks. Thanks for this!
Sir, you are as always shows only the miracles!
You are a true master magician!
Very practical. Thank you! Ingeniously simple and smart!
At 2:00 was that a nuke radio active detecter,,?
thank you for this...I was looking to buy such a sander for my drill press but this will work great
Good ideas.Especially the table support.
I kept saying "NO! It can't be that simple!" but alas, it was. Thanks for sharing. It is another reminder of the K.I.S.S. method for me.
Good job as usual Jack, I made a few shorter ones with heavy bolts, you get less movement when sanding.
Thanks again.....Stevie
Aah.. This is something That I was looking for.. Something that can be made from simple things ! Got to try this one..
I always enjoy your videos. I've learned some great tips and lessons from them. Music is much better.
Mr. Houweling, GREAT idea. Thank you for making video. Have a wonderful day.
Jack
I've made and used similar spindles in my drill press.
Tks,
Franco
Great idea Jack! You can make multiple size and grit sanding spindles inexpensively. Thanks.
always creative Jack, you are the best
Молодчага, чувак. Спасибо за видео!
Jack, you're very lucky. You and I also have polio, but you can do woodwork that easily and freely.
Good idea and very clever Jack
ELE É MUITO BOM. TEM EXCELENTES IDEIAS. PARABENS. TAMBEM VOU FAZER.
Спасибо за подсказки.
Great video as usual Jack. Keep them coming... Happy New Year!!
Nicely done. Very clever.
ingenious and nicely done, as usual
Sempre nos presenteando com seus vídeos , valeu sr jack .
Thank you Jack. This is perfect!! I have been meaning to make some for my drill press.
A very very rich idea! Nice and very helpfull too! I will built some.
Greats from France!
just needed this type of Sander, That's great
Good timing, Jack! I recently broke the shaft of my store bought spindle sander for the drill press. (they don't work in the router very well!) Plus I've wanted one of a smaller diameter. Thanks!
A router is usually too high speed for drill spindle sanders. Probably somewhat dangerous to use one that way, though the principle of a handheld router style spindle sanders is quite appealing.
That is very cool Jack!
I like the gauge you used to check for round. I have never seen that before. Did you make that one?
Very nice! Gonna need a few of these.
i like the music,and the spindle sanders too.subbed thank you!
Nice job. I’m just wondering how you change the sandpaper?
Happy new year Jack, great build and great video. Thank you for posting.
Thanks Jack.
I think I would prefer your sander to the commercial set I have for my drill press.
Well done! Nice music too!
Thank you so much you allowed me to think outside the box . Julien Lamarche.
Excdellent! ALl regular items and no special sandpaper tubes needed ro anything! Great! I may have to make a few different sizes!
Excellent work.
All the best
km
I watched the video again and I'm afraid I wasn't paying enough attention the first time, I paused the video when you showed the brand of spray adhesive so my question's already answered haha
Happy New Year by the way :)
Great work Jack. I like your video's and the ideas you come up with. I like to save time and money too.
Love it, am going to try making this set up, thanks for that Jack, love your videos
Thanks for sharing your knowledge AND experience.
Very nice work thanks 🙏🏼
Just brilliant....Thank you Jack!!
mr jack you are vrey great
Thank you Jack. I going to make these.
Good idea, for those without a wood lathe.
Great !!! As always love to watch ur vids.Happy new year!!!!!
Good job dear, Well done.🙏🙏🙏🙏🙏
Great job,some of the nicest I've seen. What kind/grit sandpaper are you using here?
Nice Build Jack Thankyou
Very clever Well done
Is the sandpaper hard get off to replace where it's glued
Happy new year Jack, thanks for the video. :)
friend you are very intelligent. a gift from God
Happy Birthday.
hugs
i love your spring loaded vacuum cleaner on the drill press. How did you set that up?
Thank you!!!
I did a few after looking at your video But I didn't do the sanding to make it straight down as you did I used a file mmmmmmmmm not so good , I did put the vacuum hose behind the drill press for the dust and it worked good :)
You are the best
clever! Love your idea man.
wow, thanks man, this was quite useful for me.
Awsome stuff as usual
una ottimo idea bravo
bravo
I just got my drill press and am in the need of these. Did you let the glue tack up before wrapping the paper on them or do it right away and let it dry? How hard is it to remove and replace the paper? Thanks of the great, easy spindle sander build.
Now that's a tool I will duplicate for myself someday!
Does it deflect much? If so, I'm thinking of using an all-thread rod that's a little longer on the bottom end so that the extension can ride in a hole, perhaps even in a bearing, to minimize or even prevent deflection. Your thoughts?
I am concerned about the lateral force being applied to the drill shaft bearings. It seems to me the bearings are for vertical alignment, and lateral force would cause premature wear. I understand lots of folks do this and even create a vertical lathe, just wondering about longevity.
Great video and project - what sandpaper grit are you using?
Nice- but how well are you able to change the sand paper?
now you run a chain from your quill feed arm to the floor with a paddle on it to work it up and down while you sand
how about using foam rubber instead of wood? that way you tighten the carriage bolt with a nut and washer compressing the rubber for an snug fit.
Also, is the sandpaper replaceable once its worn?
Hi Jack .. can you make a spindle sander to sand a Large PVC pipe ... basically to sand and polish the pipe ...? thanks
I enjoyed the video, Jack and like the music you used. For future reference, I'd advise you to reduce the video sound volume (mainly when a vacuum or noisy tool is running) as it seems to impede on the clarity of the music. I've learned this the hard way myself and I'm sure many others have also.
Am I right in thinking you only sprayed glue on to the spindle, so that worn sheets of abrasive can be peeled off and replaced?
I agree with the audio
Using the spray adhesive allows the sandpaper to be removed easily as oppose to using wood glue
Hope this helps
genius! so simple ...thanks for sharing.