@@josephmattocks3549 There is a Realized Continuo (Harpsichord or Piano) part and keep in mind different editors interpret the continuo realization differently. Barenreiter is actually the easiest & it works on a Piano too. If a modern orchestra was preforming this w/ a Flautist (or a Violinist cause B Minor is a good Sharp key for them, Cellists can play them down an Octave on a 5 String Cello, and Bassists can play them down 2 Octaves on a 5 String Bass tuned in Fifths) they'd have to play the Harpsichord part on Piano.
I love this recording of the suite's overture; it's got that perfect declamatory swagger that a French overture requires, while maintaining perfect control of the beat.
Bourree 11:20 is one of the most superb pieces of music I've ever heard! Thanks for posting this as transcriptions are difficult to find on the internet.
I heard this exact this piece 5 years ago in a radio, the commentator said something like "Bach, Concerto No. 2". I remembered after work and googled it. So I found out Bach has written many concertos with no. 2s.
I cannot believe anybody would be so rude as to "dislike" one of these videos. They must have taken a lot of time and effort to make, and they are very instructive as well as wonderful to view and hear. Thank you, Gerubach!
I can see why someone would, but it says a lot about them. If you're the type to get out of bed and finish your son's piece on the piano because he stopped before the final chord, then the way the grace notes in the Polonaise are played will leave you smashing your (computer) keyboard. For me, as a helper in someone's learning of the piece, it's invaluable. Will be donating at the site mentioned at the end.
@@sviatoslavblahovista4858 Those grace notes in Polonaise are actually appoggiaturi, which is playing a non-chord tone on the down beat and then resolving to the nearest chord tone by "sliding" (not necessarily glissed though), so I find the long grace notes pretty appropriate. Of course, maybe those who pressed dislike didn't know or didn't agree with this conception. In that case, they will probably click dislike on every single Mozart Turkish March video they watch, especially the ones with score on screen. Because while Mozart wrote as the first four notes (and in every similar subsequent occurrence of the figure) an eighth notes with a grace note, followed by two sixteenths, pretty much everyone played that as four sixteenth notes, save for Will from AuthenticSounds. And if they actually didn't, then I suppose they are either pretentious or plain stupid. Either way, they're being haters.
¡¡Qué maravilla!! Es uno de los movimientos y piezas musicales que más me gustan y que tanto recuerdos me traen. Y me encanta seguir de esta forma las partituras. Es genial. Congratulacions!
@@virginiaviola5097c est une horreur de dire ça. Bach ne parle pas au plus profond de l ame pt etre ? la musique de Bach est généralement la musique la plus profonde, la plus belle, la plus inspirée, celle qui par excellence vous élève au ciel. vous manquez de sensibilité musicale pour ne par vous apercevoir. il n y a qu à écouter ses concertos pour s en apercevoir, hautement plus émotionnels que ceux de Mozart.et au piano il surpasse tout le monde.
Excellent interpretation...very strict(each tone is distinct) and very very gentle in the same time....bravo...Bach is genious....I love Menuet very much :) Thank you Gerubach
mmm, Badinerie - shallow......... :-) ok. I totally agree with you about the Sarabande, it's a wonderful composition. I also prefer this tempo, a little bit faster than many other performances. The Sarabande, I didn't discovered it before I read about it in a book - the melody repeats in the bass one measure later, like a canon.
I have decades of experience in playing music, still I can't wrap my head around it rhythmically... the melody appears just fine, but looking at the time signature and the movement of all the different instruments, especially the Continuo, totally throws me off.
This french overture is one of my all time favourites. And when I read the "Lentement" at 5:40, a tear of joy comes to my eye. In some way, it is Bach's tribute to Lully and all the french composers who influenced his music. True genius here !
I love the overture in this one, lot more than other 2nd suite I heard. Others tend to be more slower but here it’s just perfection! Not to say they aren’t right up there in terms of how heavenly the experience becomes
Excellent cette possibilité de suivre le déroulé de la partition et de pouvoir se faire une idée très fine du sens de l'interprétation !!Un grand merci pour ce partage de l'immense musique de Bach et le plaisir de comprendre le fonctionnement de la musique baroque, notamment au niveau de la flûte !!! Christian, flûtiste à bec
You can see in the Overture score why Bach is so great. The incredible detail of every voice, even the bass line. As opposed to the simplistic cut and paste type harmonies of most other contemporary composers.
This reminds me of Little Einstiens Knock on Wood. I can attribute 5 of the 7 movements to different parts of the episode. Rondo: Snake friendship song Bourree: Woodpecker getting out of the snake's way Double Polonaise: Alligator friendship song Minuet and Badinerie: Woodpecker friendship song
The four orchestral suites, are, in my opinion, the greatest of Bach's purely instrumental compositions and also among the finest works of the entire Baroque period. A world of sophisticated order and exquisite beauty exists here that has never been matched before or since by any composer or time period.
gerubach It's really just a Flute Concerto but it can be played on the Violin too. I'd rather play it on the Cello (Octave Lower), or a Fifths Tuned Double Bass w/ 5 Strings (2 Octaves Lower).
I think the realized continuo part would look interesting cause the advantages are that you can facilitate good technique. The Continuo part would sound interesting if we played the realized harpsichord part on Piano.
This suite I heard it so often when a child; my mother bought it; I did not even know that it was BWV 1067 ... but it accompanied me throughout my childhood ...I grew up with it ... and now - just by chance - I discovered this wonderful piece on your site ... otherwise, I'm sure, I would have never recgnized this piece ,... Thank you so much for posting.
Quite a weird piece isn't it? It's about the build up over a ground bass, finally arriving to a very satisfying major chord. The texture is so detailed it's like bathing in sound. But the melody kind of gets lost in the texture as a result. Can you hear how the harmony pivots at bar 7? 11:29 I could sum up why I like it in that moment. It's not my favourite movement though.
Because they're not just Suites, they're Ouvertures or French Overtures meaning they include French dances or French interpretations of other culture's dances. So like, the Polonaise is of French origin inspired by a few Polish folk dances. The Courante is based on the Italian Corrente, Canaries of either the Carany Islands or somewhere else, Sarabande of Spain etc... The point being that Allemande is a German dance at nature however was later accepted as part of the standard format for suites. Allemande, Courante, Sarabande and Gigue with the optional Prelude. Ouvertures are something Lully really began and thus he seemed to standardise them with the French Operatic Opening paired with a Fugue, then typically Courante, Sarabande, Intermezzo and Gigue however he'd never stick to this format. The point is though, they were created in France in the court of Louis XIV and thus foreign input was likely unwanted. It just seems that most dances of other nations were altered by the French and I guess they didn't see a point in dancing the Allemande.
Baroque4Days Uh, I’ve heard plenty of French Allemandes. In fact, the word Allemande is itself French for German. I do however hear a distinct difference between 3 different styles of Allemande. This distinction is mainly via tempo, but other factors play as well. French Allemande -> Slow and more majestic, but still livelier than the Sarabande ex. All of Bach’s French Suites German Allemande -> Faster side, closer to the speed of a Courante ex. Partita for Solo Flute in A Minor English Allemande -> Moderate Minuet-like Tempo ex. English Suite no. 1 in A Major
Why has this recording been speeded up, and without pitch stabilisation, thus making it sharp? Listen to and compare with the official upload of the original recording here: ruclips.net/video/LpRl881sgmY/видео.html
Как раз малотеатральна, Бах ненавидел театр и называл музыку театра - песенки, а больше он любил Церковь и Духовную музыку, для которых почти и писал весь свой репертуар
@UCNAckPiDYxRWengUlRujs6Q It's possible to play the Flute part on the Violin too. It's actually more like a Concerto in B Minor for Flute (Violin, 5 String Cello 8vb, or 5 String Fifths tuned Bass 15mb).
My only complaint is this orchestra plays the grace notes (tiny notes) too long!! They lingered too long on the grace notes! It's supposed to be short like quaver.
What? Who told you that? Those "grace notes" are called "appoggiaturas". In Bach's time they were explicitly meant to be long. An appoggiatura takes exactly half the value of the following note, or 2/3 of the following note if it is dotted. All 18th century sources agree on that. Even Bach's own son says so in his book "Über die wahre Art das Clavier zu spielen". Hell, there's even a cheat sheet that J.S. Bach himself made for one of his pupils, where you can see that an appoggiatura is always long and never short. Short grace notes do also exist, but they look different: They are called "accaciaturas", and - unlike appoggiaturas - have a diagonal line through them, as if striked out. Those were very rare in Bach's time. In fact, I have never seen one in Bach's own music, and I have played more than one hundred of his pieces. "Short grace notes" are much more common in romantic music. They begin to emerge during the classical period. You see them frequently in Haydn's music; less frequently in Mozart's. You should ask your teacher about the topic. (Reason for edit: atrocious grammar)
- [ ] Although in general I have to agree with timrath I do believe he is being a little dogmatic about his own interpretation of the available data. Having read Dolmetsch’s comprehensive argument for this position (Interpretation of Music in the 17th and 18th centuries) I was firmly convinced of it myself until I discovered a little book by Walter Emery titled Bach’s Ornaments. He takes a more cautious approach to solving the problem and I have to admit being inclined to his arguments in general, though in relation to this piece in particular (where he says the appoggiature should all be quavers) I have a problem with some things he presupposes as ‘obvious’. He is well worth consulting before forming an opinion on the subject. As regards the so-called ‘cheat sheet’ I presume Timrath is referring to the Explication as published in the Clavierbuchlein vor Wilhelm Friedmann Bach. If so, Emery’s comment is worth considering, viz, that this was "nothing more than a rough guide, made for a boy of ten who did not need anything better, because he was being taught by his father" (p.14).
It means that it moves by the half note- in other words the important beats are a big one-two, not 1-2-3-4 by quarters. In later music it's called cut time, and generally goes faster. But in early music it can be fairly slow or moderate. The feeling is that the faster moving notes progress from half note to half note, the quarters on 3 and 4 don't get any stress.
janetcbass I have virtually always heard 2/2 as fast, often close to or at Presto, even in the Baroque, with only a few exceptions. And yet, another half note time signature, 3/2 is used for the opposite extreme, the very slow and is never fast(Egmont Overture for example starts very slow in 3/2). Why would 1 half note make all the difference in whether it’s fast or slow?
The continuo player will be Trevor Pinnock himself. I can barely hear the harpsichord at that point but I'll assume you're right. Though it may have been a conscious decision.
Could you please explain. This bottom staff. There are a lot of digits below it. Does it mean someone (clavichord?) is constantly playing additional notes, not shown explicitly on the staff?
Yeah, traditionally the figured bass was played by the maestro behind his keyboard, while he led the rest of the ensemble. Back then conductors actually had to work hard for their money!
It's the old version of what became our chord notation you see for guitarists to follow vocal lines, so they can play chords to the melody. The different patterns of numbers in the case correspond to different chords in different inversions. What they wrote as "6/3 over C#" became our "F#7/C#" (I hope I converted that right).
6/3 over C# consists of C#, E and A or A#, if the sixth is raised (usually shown by a little line crossing 6). So this chord does not actually contain F#. If you add F#, you get 6#/4/3 (often abbreviated just 4/3). To be sure, these chords (6#/3 and 4/3) sound rather similar, but the former is lighter. To Peter: the instrument playing the figured-bass accompaniment is typically the harpsichord. Clavichord's sound is too soft for this purpose.
Bach's bass writing is just amazing. The best part of the overture!
I agree!
@@josephmattocks3549 There is a Realized Continuo (Harpsichord or Piano) part and keep in mind different editors interpret the continuo realization differently. Barenreiter is actually the easiest & it works on a Piano too. If a modern orchestra was preforming this w/ a Flautist (or a Violinist cause B Minor is a good Sharp key for them, Cellists can play them down an Octave on a 5 String Cello, and Bassists can play them down 2 Octaves on a 5 String Bass tuned in Fifths) they'd have to play the Harpsichord part on Piano.
Nope, the entire thing is (Especially the fugue).
@@DanielFahimi right
Brahms, who loved Bach, said that he really mostly cares about the bassline when constructing a composition...
Bach will always be my favourite composer. His music is immortal.
Rondeau 6:30
Sarabande 8:28
Bourrée 11:22
Polonaise 13:20
Double 14:47
Menuet 17:00
Badinerie 18:30
Thanks!
Ty!
Anna Jull thank you for the times,
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thanks so much for adding these! just what I was looking for :)
I love this recording of the suite's overture; it's got that perfect declamatory swagger that a French overture requires, while maintaining perfect control of the beat.
Bourree 11:20 is one of the most superb pieces of music I've ever heard! Thanks for posting this as transcriptions are difficult to find on the internet.
Agree
I heard this exact this piece 5 years ago in a radio, the commentator said something like "Bach, Concerto No. 2". I remembered after work and googled it. So I found out Bach has written many concertos with no. 2s.
I agree too.. Can't stop "rewinding" to enjoy it again and again..
Its just so amazing! It was composed exactly 300 years ago but it still rocks so hard
exactly
I cannot believe anybody would be so rude as to "dislike" one of these videos. They must have taken a lot of time and effort to make, and they are very instructive as well as wonderful to view and hear. Thank you, Gerubach!
I can see why someone would, but it says a lot about them. If you're the type to get out of bed and finish your son's piece on the piano because he stopped before the final chord, then the way the grace notes in the Polonaise are played will leave you smashing your (computer) keyboard. For me, as a helper in someone's learning of the piece, it's invaluable. Will be donating at the site mentioned at the end.
@@sviatoslavblahovista4858 Those grace notes in Polonaise are actually appoggiaturi, which is playing a non-chord tone on the down beat and then resolving to the nearest chord tone by "sliding" (not necessarily glissed though), so I find the long grace notes pretty appropriate. Of course, maybe those who pressed dislike didn't know or didn't agree with this conception. In that case, they will probably click dislike on every single Mozart Turkish March video they watch, especially the ones with score on screen. Because while Mozart wrote as the first four notes (and in every similar subsequent occurrence of the figure) an eighth notes with a grace note, followed by two sixteenths, pretty much everyone played that as four sixteenth notes, save for Will from AuthenticSounds. And if they actually didn't, then I suppose they are either pretentious or plain stupid. Either way, they're being haters.
People have opinions
C'est tout a fait juste.@@moxyblackfiddler
@@moxyblackfiddler yeah the trash one
Bach and his music will always live forever! His music is that of God!
¡¡Qué maravilla!! Es uno de los movimientos y piezas musicales que más me gustan y que tanto recuerdos me traen. Y me encanta seguir de esta forma las partituras. Es genial. Congratulacions!
I feel mathematical beauty in Bach's music.
Speak in 3rd person to make your statement a bit more objective, say Mathematical beauty is felt when listening to Bach's music.
beauté mélodique aussi...
Yes. Bach’s music sounds algebraic and calculated to the dot, yet creative enough to not be cut and dry.
Yes...Bach is mathematical perfection. Beethoven speaks to the depths of the soul and Mozart lifts you to the heavens. The big three.
@@virginiaviola5097c est une horreur de dire ça. Bach ne parle pas au plus profond de l ame pt etre ? la musique de Bach est généralement la musique la plus profonde, la plus belle, la plus inspirée, celle qui par excellence vous élève au ciel. vous manquez de sensibilité musicale pour ne par vous apercevoir. il n y a qu à écouter ses concertos pour s en apercevoir, hautement plus émotionnels que ceux de Mozart.et au piano il surpasse tout le monde.
reading thru these scrolling scores during the COVID-19 NYC lockdown is helping me and my neighbors too...thanks for setting this up.
Excellent interpretation...very strict(each tone is distinct) and very very gentle in the same time....bravo...Bach is genious....I love Menuet very much :) Thank you Gerubach
I love the Badinerie.
Shallow. I love the Sarabande.
mmm, Badinerie - shallow......... :-) ok. I totally agree with you about the Sarabande, it's a wonderful composition. I also prefer this tempo, a little bit faster than many other performances. The Sarabande, I didn't discovered it before I read about it in a book - the melody repeats in the bass one measure later, like a canon.
dont prioritize
@@ludhannsebastivanbachthove4987 no, i mean Boureé and polonaise
I have decades of experience in playing music, still I can't wrap my head around it rhythmically... the melody appears just fine, but looking at the time signature and the movement of all the different instruments, especially the Continuo, totally throws me off.
Thanks for the scrolling score. I cannot express how much it helps. Highly appreciated.
This french overture is one of my all time favourites. And when I read the "Lentement" at 5:40, a tear of joy comes to my eye. In some way, it is Bach's tribute to Lully and all the french composers who influenced his music. True genius here !
Simply Darius I thought i heard a lot french influence.
I was waiting for this video! Thank you Gerubach!
I love the overture in this one, lot more than other 2nd suite I heard. Others tend to be more slower but here it’s just perfection! Not to say they aren’t right up there in terms of how heavenly the experience becomes
18:30
Shoe on head
Imaginary places
Exactly same with my textbook,thanks very much.
I love the ouverture, bourre and the Polonaise
And what about the menuet? E dolcissimo, vero?
18:29 When Bach become predictor of this song, nokia said "Interesting!"
Excellent cette possibilité de suivre le déroulé de la partition et de pouvoir se faire une idée très fine du sens de l'interprétation !!Un grand merci pour ce partage de l'immense musique de Bach et le plaisir de comprendre le fonctionnement de la musique baroque, notamment au niveau de la flûte !!! Christian, flûtiste à bec
You can see in the Overture score why Bach is so great. The incredible detail of every voice, even the bass line. As opposed to the simplistic cut and paste type harmonies of most other contemporary composers.
Viele Grüße an die Klasse 8a auf dem Ratsgymnasium Wolfsburg ihr seid die geilsten und Musik ist geil ala bin der geilste
Haha😂🧙🏼♂️🐧
Hallllolololoöpölbtkpfzieiqi4qotqqotdösäzapzyäzÄzyäu
I love the crisp interpretation of this recording. I don't like the Orchestral Suites when they are too heavy and romanticized.
Perfectly agree. You don't have to dive into insane crescendos and change the tempo when playing Bach. He doesn't need that to be incredible.
I would say that you don't have to dive into insane crescendos and change the tempo when playing ANY composer.
No; the conductor often asks for it. Check out Berlioz's Requiem
@@97mesut you can just play more fluently and smoothly without exacerbating the tempo
@@PM_ME_MESSIAEN_PICS just because the composer (who I assume you mean :P) asks for it doesn't mean it's a good idea
I love b minor its such a beautiful key
Obra maestra , como todas las obras de este Genio . Gracias por compartir . Saludos desde Quetzaltenango Guatemala.
This reminds me of Little Einstiens Knock on Wood. I can attribute 5 of the 7 movements to different parts of the episode.
Rondo: Snake friendship song
Bourree: Woodpecker getting out of the snake's way
Double Polonaise: Alligator friendship song
Minuet and Badinerie: Woodpecker friendship song
Exactly where I just came from! :D
Omg yes. I came here looking for this song cause of that episode. I loved that episode
Honestly went to go check that out after I saw you commenting. Pretty strange use of the piece but sure, pretty nice to see it get some appreciation.
Wow I love this cover of Busdriver - Imaginary Places
People now: _ew!_ that's *_bOrInG!_*
People then: **dance n' drunk**
The four orchestral suites, are, in my opinion, the greatest of Bach's purely instrumental compositions and also among the finest works of the entire Baroque period. A world of sophisticated order and exquisite beauty exists here that has never been matched before or since by any composer or time period.
gorgeous! thanks for this version with the SCORE!!!
כל הכבוד זה מהמם גם בגלל העוקב המדויק כל הכבוד.
i'll die without my daily drug
Bach addiction is not really dangerous. Some parents even give it to their little children ... ♡
une flute enchantée.....
Tres gentile!
gerubach It's really just a Flute Concerto but it can be played on the Violin too. I'd rather play it on the Cello (Octave Lower), or a Fifths Tuned Double Bass w/ 5 Strings (2 Octaves Lower).
I can play along to this... but only at .75 speed. That counts, right?
If you can play it slowly, you can play it quickly. #lingling40hrs
Raitis Veinbahs lol 2setviolin
I guess it does.
2:59 My favorite part
Perfect!
Nice that the ad is also in B minor :)
One shold not rush over the slow part of the overture like that. I clicked thumb up but it is on the limit of my tolerance for modern exhibitionism.
It's not rushed, except that this particular upload seems to be speeded up from the original recording.
Guilherme Wood. I support you, the beginning is fast, but the composer didn't say a word about slow pace, the time signature is C.
Bach Suite is amazing
11:21 ♥♥♥
he actually popped off on this noe
Many thanks, this is so helpful for practical this piece!
I think the realized continuo part would look interesting cause the advantages are that you can facilitate good technique. The Continuo part would sound interesting if we played the realized harpsichord part on Piano.
Marvelous!
Che favola...
Magnificat! Beautiful!
En dat meen ik echt!
T.G. Pieterman
Bedankt voor de reactie!
my previous music exam part-Polonaise
I'd love to have the soloist also credited on the disc, but it'll be in the booklet if I look for it
Stephen Preston.
18:30 leaving this for myself
Just for me
0:21
2:17
This suite I heard it so often when a child; my mother bought it; I did not even know that it was BWV 1067 ... but it accompanied me throughout my childhood ...I grew up with it ... and now - just by chance - I discovered this wonderful piece on your site ... otherwise, I'm sure, I would have never recgnized this piece ,... Thank you so much for posting.
best orchestral piece imo
Little Einsteins brought me here, especially the minuet!
The viola is gorgeous in this piece!
Minuet at 17:00
Interesting that the overture is more quick and badinerie is slow.
usually it's the other way around
The best camera musica!
Legend
DOING IT SIDEWAYS
badinerie that is my school belling song,if hear this song means school end, and the hole class cheer.😂
I played the flute too.🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣✨🧌vv✨😆✨vv
My favorites were Menuet and Badinerie, 17:00 and 18:30
The last one should be included in Lili's Tekken 8 ending. Love ya always Lili
Thank you..!!
Pleasure to hear interpretation that is not hyperactive.
18:31 - one of huawei ringtones
Can someone tell me why so many people like the Bourrée 1?
Quite a weird piece isn't it? It's about the build up over a ground bass, finally arriving to a very satisfying major chord. The texture is so detailed it's like bathing in sound. But the melody kind of gets lost in the texture as a result.
Can you hear how the harmony pivots at bar 7? 11:29
I could sum up why I like it in that moment. It's not my favourite movement though.
11:21からの演奏がnobleで好き。
I like the performance from 11:21 with noble。
高貴な印象があるということですか。僕はPolonaiseのほうでもそう感じます。
00:16 BPM: 80 2:33 210 bpm
Why do non of the orchestral suites have an Allemande?
Because they're not just Suites, they're Ouvertures or French Overtures meaning they include French dances or French interpretations of other culture's dances. So like, the Polonaise is of French origin inspired by a few Polish folk dances. The Courante is based on the Italian Corrente, Canaries of either the Carany Islands or somewhere else, Sarabande of Spain etc... The point being that Allemande is a German dance at nature however was later accepted as part of the standard format for suites. Allemande, Courante, Sarabande and Gigue with the optional Prelude. Ouvertures are something Lully really began and thus he seemed to standardise them with the French Operatic Opening paired with a Fugue, then typically Courante, Sarabande, Intermezzo and Gigue however he'd never stick to this format. The point is though, they were created in France in the court of Louis XIV and thus foreign input was likely unwanted. It just seems that most dances of other nations were altered by the French and I guess they didn't see a point in dancing the Allemande.
Baroque4Days Uh, I’ve heard plenty of French Allemandes. In fact, the word Allemande is itself French for German. I do however hear a distinct difference between 3 different styles of Allemande. This distinction is mainly via tempo, but other factors play as well.
French Allemande -> Slow and more majestic, but still livelier than the Sarabande ex. All of Bach’s French Suites
German Allemande -> Faster side, closer to the speed of a Courante ex. Partita for Solo Flute in A Minor
English Allemande -> Moderate Minuet-like Tempo ex. English Suite no. 1 in A Major
I really like sarabande part.
I can't read so I like looking at pictures
Why did it take so long? Beautiful piece
2:18 the fugue is best👍👍👍👍
I played the cello part😢
Rondeau reminds me of Little Einsteins
Phoon anyone?
There should be a Barenreiter Score that includes Continuo Realization.
Why has this recording been speeded up, and without pitch stabilisation, thus making it sharp? Listen to and compare with the official upload of the original recording here: ruclips.net/video/LpRl881sgmY/видео.html
Suíte de danças magníficas.
Как раз малотеатральна, Бах ненавидел театр и называл музыку театра - песенки, а больше он любил Церковь и Духовную музыку, для которых почти и писал весь свой репертуар
@@МарианнаЮматоваmesmo assim compôs música instrumental não sacra (profana, na linguagem medieval) maravilhosa.
Band... 18:24
@UCNAckPiDYxRWengUlRujs6Q
It's possible to play the Flute part on the Violin too. It's actually more like a Concerto in B Minor for Flute (Violin, 5 String Cello 8vb, or 5 String Fifths tuned Bass 15mb).
6:28
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18:30
My only complaint is this orchestra plays the grace notes (tiny notes) too long!! They lingered too long on the grace notes! It's supposed to be short like quaver.
What? Who told you that? Those "grace notes" are called "appoggiaturas". In Bach's time they were explicitly meant to be long. An appoggiatura takes exactly half the value of the following note, or 2/3 of the following note if it is dotted. All 18th century sources agree on that. Even Bach's own son says so in his book "Über die wahre Art das Clavier zu spielen". Hell, there's even a cheat sheet that J.S. Bach himself made for one of his pupils, where you can see that an appoggiatura is always long and never short.
Short grace notes do also exist, but they look different: They are called "accaciaturas", and - unlike appoggiaturas - have a diagonal line through them, as if striked out. Those were very rare in Bach's time. In fact, I have never seen one in Bach's own music, and I have played more than one hundred of his pieces. "Short grace notes" are much more common in romantic music. They begin to emerge during the classical period. You see them frequently in Haydn's music; less frequently in Mozart's.
You should ask your teacher about the topic.
(Reason for edit: atrocious grammar)
timrath is right about them being appoggiaturas etc
- [ ] Although in general I have to agree with timrath I do believe he is being a little dogmatic about his own interpretation of the available data. Having read Dolmetsch’s comprehensive argument for this position (Interpretation of Music in the 17th and 18th centuries) I was firmly convinced of it myself until I discovered a little book by Walter Emery titled Bach’s Ornaments. He takes a more cautious approach to solving the problem and I have to admit being inclined to his arguments in general, though in relation to this piece in particular (where he says the appoggiature should all be quavers) I have a problem with some things he presupposes as ‘obvious’. He is well worth consulting before forming an opinion on the subject. As regards the so-called ‘cheat sheet’ I presume Timrath is referring to the Explication as published in the Clavierbuchlein vor Wilhelm Friedmann Bach. If so, Emery’s comment is worth considering, viz, that this was "nothing more than a rough guide, made for a boy of ten who did not need anything better, because he was being taught by his father" (p.14).
Timrath is wrong, it's supposed to be short.
Influence of Lully
why it does't sound that good when I play it @_@
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gerubach what does that 2 with a line through it mean as a time signature in the overture
It means that it moves by the half note- in other words the important beats are a big one-two, not 1-2-3-4 by quarters. In later music it's called cut time, and generally goes faster. But in early music it can be fairly slow or moderate. The feeling is that the faster moving notes progress from half note to half note, the quarters on 3 and 4 don't get any stress.
janetcbass I have virtually always heard 2/2 as fast, often close to or at Presto, even in the Baroque, with only a few exceptions. And yet, another half note time signature, 3/2 is used for the opposite extreme, the very slow and is never fast(Egmont Overture for example starts very slow in 3/2). Why would 1 half note make all the difference in whether it’s fast or slow?
Sorry for and inconvenience 😐
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cause im boss at flute?
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1:20 continuo player is playing wrong chord at end of measure. B (549)
The continuo player will be Trevor Pinnock himself. I can barely hear the harpsichord at that point but I'll assume you're right. Though it may have been a conscious decision.
too fast and stapled, not my cup of tea but still we are speaking of outstanding musicians. Respect.
These tempi are perfect dude
@@hugoclarke3284 more fluency would be worth considering
Could you please explain. This bottom staff. There are a lot of digits below it. Does it mean someone (clavichord?) is constantly playing additional notes, not shown explicitly on the staff?
that is figure base
Yeah, traditionally the figured bass was played by the maestro behind his keyboard, while he led the rest of the ensemble. Back then conductors actually had to work hard for their money!
It's the old version of what became our chord notation you see for guitarists to follow vocal lines, so they can play chords to the melody. The different patterns of numbers in the case correspond to different chords in different inversions. What they wrote as "6/3 over C#" became our "F#7/C#" (I hope I converted that right).
6/3 over C# consists of C#, E and A or A#, if the sixth is raised (usually shown by a little line crossing 6). So this chord does not actually contain F#. If you add F#, you get 6#/4/3 (often abbreviated just 4/3). To be sure, these chords (6#/3 and 4/3) sound rather similar, but the former is lighter.
To Peter: the instrument playing the figured-bass accompaniment is typically the harpsichord. Clavichord's sound is too soft for this purpose.
*figured bass
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