How will Gen Z react to the TikTok ban in the US? | The Stream
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- Опубликовано: 17 май 2024
- Within a few months, Americans might lose access to TikTok if a bipartisan bill that recently passed the House of Representatives is signed into law. The United States wants the Beijing-based parent company ByteDance, which owns TikTok, to sell the app to a US company over fears of privacy and national security. But how will this ban affect the mostly young content creators and advocates for marginalised voices who have found solace and solidarity on the platform?
Presenter: Myriam Francois
Guests:
Kahlil Greene - Digital educator and speaker
Nikita Redkar - Comedian, writer and content creator
Wally Rashid - Online personality and entrepreneur
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Tik tok its the only app that has no US military person or CIA on its management
It does. The problem is their control isn't as tight as they'd like. For example, the CIA has control of hashtags but not the algorithm that usually surfaces a counter-balance video on your fyp to show you more perspectives.
Yup, same reason the US want to kill Huawei...
all the US hardware and software have built-in back door for easy access for our beloved alphabet agency. it is political incorrect to ask a foreign hardware or tech company to do so.
@@willengel2458 even if Chinese companies were willing to help the American gov spy on everybody, would you really want to do that. They will then have direct evidence of the US gov doing what they should not. Which they could use to blackmail the US gov. And they could see how the US is doing the spying, and use the info gain to protect themselves from US spying, when it comes to using tech from American and European companies.
Israel
Banning Tik Tok is just another example of American racist nonsense.
No, its American communi5t
😂 Propaganda doesn't work anymore.. So bad actors can't convince the public that they are good.. We can finally progress to the nuclear apocalypse.
No, it's lzrel dictating US policy because they lost the media war
It’s not about censoring young people it’s about censoring the truth from young people
Young and old like me
😂 TikTok is the last place to find truth
@@FytFyt-rs9tr Let the users here decide their own truth ..lay EVERYTHING on the table and let people form their own opinion...at least here it is unfiltered unlike the very censored and controlled MSM...
Baboosh!
@@FytFyt-rs9tr the mainstream media brainwashes people
The only reason people are supporting Palestine because of what reality they’re finding out through TikTok
@@FytFyt-rs9tr then please do tell us WHERE do we find the actual truth then? Facebook? Google? Bing? I'll wait.
Don’t ban TikTok, ban the congress
Exactly
Ban both
@@QuanPookie The congress is an institution that robs and kills innocent people. TikTok is a place where old, transgender people dance to Lil Nas X songs, while covered in peanut butter. Both are terrible and need to be "banned".
Then, you will have no job no food no water. You will be a slave after WWR 3 which may happen soon.
Almost 170 million Americans use tik tok so I don't why it's referred to as Gen Z favorite app
Yeah. That’s like every third person. Pretty popular.
including Biden himself !!
Gen z are the stupid generation that use it the most and have become more degenerate
Gen z uses it most
@@odemaj8605 I think there's only 75 million gen Z's in US though. There's still 100 million more outside of that (assuming all gen z is on it). That's a crazy significant portion of all of US.
Hey, if TikTok is foreign to them, then Facebook, Google and Apple are _foreign companies_ to me (I'm not a US citizen and I don't live in the USA). Should I be concerned then what the US government will do with my data???
_(well, given the record...)_
By their logic every other country should ban Google or facebook all over the world, or should be sold to the citizens of the country they operate in.
@@bsobro Exactly. China pioneered the media control. Now the "Land of the Free" seeks to follow suit. The whole rest of the world will probably do the same in the next several years.
US does steal ur data, plenty of such events in the past from FB/Google/etc
they even hack physical mail
The thing is that Tic Tok's US data is in US managed by Oracle whereas Google overseas data is in US managed by themselves😂😂😂
All Apps are collecting data on personal preference, more so for RUclips, Facebook, iPhone, WhatsApp, Gmail, Microsoft Window and many other US Apps!!!
Banning AIPAC would go a long way toward making America great again.
Won't happened for a long time. Our congressman are cheap hired guns.
Antesemitic
Facts
@@TrashPanda_82 But they got their hands on our politician's balls.
Don’t forget SPLC and ADL
Now tell me the US is not a dictatorship!
America is a dictatorial king..
Nah kid they ban it because they are protecting their citizens from Chineese spying on them. They should have done this sooner
The us is not a dictatorship
@@scarab9515 ASU Is a global dictator.
@@scarab9515 You need to ask Julian Assange .
They should worry more about AIPAC
One one can touch the Jewish lobby group!!!
I am not Gen Z and so I am wondering why you are not mentioning Israel's and AIPAC's agenda in this US ban?
It was, at the beginning, pay attention. She mentioned Greedblatt for the Another Degenerate League
Half way through that’s what they talk about and the calls to cancel aipac is the impetus for speeding the bill through congress.
@@shortfattoad7317 and also later on it is discussed again
They are softly softly about it because Al jazeera is after still under the US empire's ambit.
You didn’t watch the video entirely.
Banning Tik Tok won't change the way we all think about what disturbs U.S government.
When American companies win, they will laugh at their opponents;
When American companies fail, they complain about the rules.
But they don't think that way and Biden is in his 80's does he know how TIK TOK works I don't think so they all chase green buck for there unborn next generation
Well, you lost the channel or platform to do so.
It will eventually when no such platform allowing users to express their opinions without censorships and control by the US government.
The fact that people's data are being sold, it doesn't matter if tik tok is own by a China company or not. These data can still be sold to whoever offer the highest price even to China if people has to be paranoid about it. This is more about competition and taking down competition, who holds the data to sell, silencing voices of different opinions and control.
If tik tok is a problem then so is RUclips, facebook, instagram, twitter, and ever other social media, they all use the same type of algorithm and collect the same type of data
Except that other platform ban you if you criticize jews, tiktok doesn't. That's why tiktok has to be banned.
No their algorithms are different. Tiktok pushes more vids of freshmen and ordinary people to you. But RUclips prefers to push the contents from their admitted medias to you. If you search the same news, in Tiktok you see more vids uploaded by local people, but in RUclips you see more mainstream western medias.
@@flyingnan2520 oh ok so it’s better, I didn’t know that, I just assume they r very similar
RUclips Facebook etc is a US app used in foreign countries EU UK Canada HK and no one thinks the US government is stealing our information.. Yeah right we all so dumb living under US smokescreen
@@flyingnan2520 And many knows what mainstream media does by now, feel sorry for those who still haven't wake up yet.
The Social platform not under their control allows people to expose their lies and see the truth.
Or Allows prevention of Extreme and distorted Reports that are based on Lies, false narratives & Propoganda! And not based on Historical, Scientific Facts
Its suddenly a threat because people are starting to wake up
If you claim that TikTok "convinced" you that you had cancer, that says so much more about you than it does about TikTok. This is the same type of person who would believe that Oreos are healthier than vegetables. Stupid is as stupid does.
Aren't you stupid too? You think how is TikTok different from other American apps?
What do you think the app is?
Do you think the app owner fills in the content of their app?
See who makes videos and who makes content?
😂 😂 😂 😂 😂 😂 😂..
I am in my 60's recently a new user and i'd say so many political n social news or events i dont see on MSM, FB or YT etc ..we need this app to balance things
Well, that’s the exact reason why they are banning it
I'm in my 40s and have seen content on tiktok that I haven't seen on other platforms
Its simple they cant control the content like they can the msm so they ban it.
Google and Facebook previously operated in China. They were not forced to leave but chose to exit due to their unwillingness to comply with Chinese law. Microsoft, on the other hand, has complied with the law and continues to operate in China.
From press briefings to Congress, the US government keeps insultingly playing in our faces like we can't see what's really going on. The self righteous indignation of these elected frauds that are supposed to be representing their constituents and citizens, is disgusting.
Kids these days are too busy trying to figure out What Gender they are... to understand anything your saying...
@@RAZR_Channel You are online too much
@@OmazingPictures I'll Admit that at times I go around YT Instigating random arguments... It's Fun... Try it...
@@RAZR_Channel No I have a job 😂
@@OmazingPictures "Job" ...? Are you sure that's what you want out of life...?
I'm a boomer and I00% approve this message. I have always thought outside the system and love it that there are alternatives sources for information. There is so much truth coming to light finally and I couldn't be happier about it. Anyone with eyes open can see that the charade of the US led West is falling apart and self imploding in real time, and it sorely needs to.
Truth is treason in an empire of lies.
Wasn't interested in TikTok, but now I'll download the App
That's exactly what I said. Remember to invest in a VPN, too.
@@Purpose_Porpoisedidn’t the congress banned VPN us? The RESTRIC act?
@@jimmielin1141 Pretty sure you can still use a VPN.
@@jimmielin1141我们国家也禁止我们使用vpn，但哈哈哈哈哈，根本没有警察抓我，我用了都10年了😂
When you lose your basketball game, you ban your opponent to play in the national competition, it's national security. Let's ban the Olympics Los Angeles 2028
Gen Z, like any generation, will have its own problems, but it always talks with sense when it counts. Their rejection of Israel's war effort in Gaza is just one reason, among many, why Gen Z gives me hope.
Even garlic from China is a national threat to the US.🤣
Not to mention ketchup for hot dogs and burgers.
The United States, spreading "democracy and freedom".
The United States: "not" spreading misinformation and radicalization.
Nice joke! 😂
😂😂😂😂😂
In American style ....
The problem with tiktok is that they provide choices and are not good for the political elites in America. Hence, both sides of the house, for once agreed it should be banned
American Jews can't control TikTok, and that raises National Security issues.
Another issue: banning TikTok gives a monopoly to RUclips as far as monetized content creation. Monopoly is never good.
TikTok has not violated any US laws, not yet. That’s why US congress is making a law to ban TikTok.
While FB has violated multiple laws and yet, crickets…
it's about censoring voices. It isn't about security. It's the anxiety and fear that the actions of the government is continued to remain hidden whilst in hindsight promoting the American ideal life on surface level platforms
Somehow, does it look familiar to Russia and China? Freedom of speech America?
Not sure if TikTok steal anything from me but I know for sure that Facebook RUclips google etc all steal my personal inf.
It's highway robbery !
I really am personally one big competition's coming away from leaving USA-based big tech platforms for good. The US government is the least trustworthy of all
5:40 yeah could you imagine. IG, Snapchat, Hollywood, McDonald's, Starbucks, AAPL, Meta, Twitter. If they are all influencing the globe with their ideologies. Why is it different when the Americans do it? Oh right. Because they're the most moral nation on earth right
Freedom Free speech only when the speech does not impact the government.
Freedom of speech means you can say what you want. It never meant no consequences
@@aliamarie6259 So it means Your statement is true for all the countries around the world.
@@DineshTwanabasu i guess so
This is about CENSORSHIP and we must all RESIST!!! STOP Government OVERREACH!
Facebook is owned by America but you don't see us making noise about it
When RUclips and tech platforms work around the world and shape people's perceptions it's good for them but if ticktock does the same it has no right and must be stopped , why ?
because its Amerikkka
Myriam Francois is 🔥🔥🔥🔥
More of her, please.
I love her no nonsense, super clear way of getting to the real point.
Freedom and justice for Palestine 🇵🇸🇵🇸🇵🇸
I thought she was English at first due to her accent but I was genuinely confused as she was too attractive, sincere looking and seems like a genuine truth seeker, none of which I would expect from any ethnic English person coming into a big news organization.
No offence intended, I do not wish to insult English people as that would be like an insult to myself just by the intention itself. That was my sincere reaction to seeing Myriam that I am sharing.
TikTok encourages creativity among the young and discussions of topics. If the worry is about China or Hamas or others influencing the young, the root problem here is the huge failure of the US providing adequate public schools that would keep our young informed. The Gov. needs to back off
To call a representative of the ADL who made a complaint about TikTok an American official is to indirectly equate that person with having governmental authority; and while the ADL certainly wields significant influence over the government in the United States by way of the Israel lobby, it’s important to make clear that distinction. Why? Because it goes to the evidence that the reason given for the TikTok ban is nothing more than a fig leaf to hide the Israeli influence over our government from the American people. That ADL rep may have been accurate about the divide being between young and old in general; but speaking as a boomer, I can tell you that there are far more of my generation that are cognizant of the influence peddling and the corruption that it creates, than the people at the ADL and those like them might imagine. If I had my way, there’d BE no ban!
ADL IS A GARBAGE GROUP OF TERRORIST PROPAGANDA SPREADERS ABOLISH TERRORIST ISRAEL
Not all boomers are bad 😏
@@briannec2016~ .. also spoken as a boomer? Whether yea or nay, I couldn’t agree more.
@@menudobucket9837 Nope, I'm a GenXer who was raised by boomers who have gone from the traditional, old school conservatives to 🤪 trumpers. 😔 We don't speak.
The ADL is the terrorist Israel propaganda n misinformation team if u look close Israel is the mirror image of ISIS extremism is extremism.
i hope the middle east will wake up and stand against the usa agression and build there own big army economi and keep on growing
Amrika is the biggest enemy... funding Israel and nazis in Ukraine is their values.
First we have to address the US/U.K. outpost/colony in the Middle East… Israel.
As an American I can agree, The US is corrupted in so many ways I just don’t know why I was even born here. Wish I wasn’t born at all sometimes to be real.
@@PugGamer550 we were all born into a world that is corrupt. I’m Palestinian but I don’t blame you… I have many American friends. So much time, money and effort has gone into Zionism controlling your country, your politicians and your opinions. Anyone who has broken free from that now obvious control, is a breath of fresh air to humanity. The awakening is snowballing… When America releases itself from the stranglehold of Zionism, the whole world can begin to heal. This is the time you need to fight for your country. That can be as little as reposting truths, about Zionism and Israel.
trust me. every single arabic speaking person wishes for that to happen.. sadly the leaders don't share the idea
These young Americans are very wise and well informed 👏👏
"Information is power"
Same with knowledge. 👍
One of the great selling point of TikTok is that it has a Chinese parent company and data server/personal in the US. So both side can't do anything too sh*tty and expect to get away with it.
If it was forced to sell to a US company, it's will be just another censored app like many others.🤮
That's a good thought. Well done
So smart yo are😅
"We stand for the First Amendment ... as long as we agree with what you are saying!"
your main danger is aipac
On banning TikTok on influence, then the world needs to ban Google, FB, Insta, ...
It’s Israel folks not China
Bright, knowledgeable and interesting. That goes for the panel and content. Well done.
so proud of you young people and so sorry for the dinosaur mindset
US said US is posing a security risk, not Tik Tok. 😂😂😂
Gen Z will revolt and the country will end in fire. "Only the youngs can run."Taylor Swift.
Yeah, when have I heard that before? ADL is not worried about the youth. ADL is worried about what will happen when the youth get old.
I’m 43 and I’ve never listened to a Taylor Swift song voluntarily.
Gen Z definitely won’t stand for this. Agreed. Though, I imagine a new app will be created before any huge revolt happens. Vine died before as well and in its place, Tiktok was born. The same will likely happen. Lots of sites die all the time actually. Lots have died in the past and they were once just as big. Even RUclips could be gone tomorrow.
Samething happened here in Nepal as well as our neighbour country India.The incompetencies of our politicians were exposed so much,they literally had to shut tictok down so as to hide their failure.its nothing new for us when US does the same.
Its like aljazeera on steroids 😂😂
Bruh! 😂
Or RT on meth😂
Ticktok is CGTN Europe on Coke... says Amerikkka
If it's not this, it's that, that is America for you, everyone!
The Jew is strong in the U$AIPAC...:)
Tik Tok is to Gen Z what RUclips was to Millenials, Music Videos were to GenX and cable TV to Boomers
Thank you to all who participated and contributed to this informative piece.
IMHO I believe we might be observing the early stages of the algorithm wars. For too long people with opposing views have been shut down on platforms such as FB, Insta and Twitter (to name but a few), effectively shaping the narrative, telling some people what to think.
There has long been resistance by some against Tic Tok partly because they are unable to control the content (effectively, the narrative), in the process exposing MSMs role.
I’m in my mid 50s, I don’t use the platform much but I am very impressed with the views shared here. I’m glad young people are standing up, well done.
Even if they eventually find a way to shut Tik Tok down, my hope is some of these young, enterprising minds will find a way to make their voices heard.
We’ll all do well to remember; if you’re not paying for a product or a service, then you are the product.
Wishing you all everything of the very best
Khalil I’m so proud😭. I need you to get on the waves with Marc Lamont Hill.
Maybe it's now clear to people that Congress first and foremost serves themselves majorly, any threat to their stay in office or power is automatically transformed into NATIONAL SECURITY 😂😂😅
Thanks, Al Jazeera and Myriam. Informative video. I have faith in the younger generation. They're able to perceive the truth so easily, and their lucidity is striking. They actually stand for what is right, instead of just virtue signalling. This bodes well for the future. Millennials have made an utter mess of things.
I completely agree with you. I’m not defending millennials, I am one and yeah Gen Z is doing things we prayed for. Context is that millennials remember a childhood when we still had a white picket fence world. We could afford to not only exist but thrive. We lost that world. But for us, it’s somehow always just within our grasp. I think it has something to do with how the economic crises were timed in our lives. Gen Z are used to having nothing. So, they’re creating. Now I pray millennials get used to having nothing.
@@TheStonesQT93 I think you hit the nail on the head regarding the economic roots of this. Millennials had too much, and had it too easy, so we grew entitled. Gen Z, growing up in a post-recession world, formed a different perspective. What strikes me too is their humility, which, I think you'll agree, millennials struggle with. We thought we knew it all.
@@GeoffreyAngapa compared to what we actually do know, I agree. We knew nothing. We still knew a tad bit more than Gen X. Cut us some slack 😂.
@@TheStonesQT93 Yes, maybe 5% more than Gen X! After all, we were the computer generation :)
i am thinking of going on tic toc
I am signing up TikTok now. It is a symbol of my voice (politicians like to say the people have spoken) and my vote (forget about the money bought November election).
I am concerned that Facebook is in Bangladesh.
also a thought, I am 66 a boomer and have been sing the youth losing a lot of prejudices which I have been happy to see. Youth brings a better vision for the most part. Its been their in past generation but smothered almost to death. It happened in 2001 WMD the media was firing people who spoke up , it was either your with us or against us. We have Julian Assange wasting away because he brought truth to light. This is an ongoing struggle to keep "There Truth and Valuse in tact" Ingorance reigns
Trevor noah coming out against tik tok is one of the very first times ive Ever disagreed with him.. and thats saying something
He's bought and paid for by Western MSM enough said.
That's because many Americans can see the outside world clearly.🙌
What an important topic and segment. Thank you!!
We want a platform that is loved by most globally. We believe it offers true freedom without interference.
Gen Z, we need you on other platforms, like this one.
I'm Gen Y and I would be outraged.
Reason? Because it is an uncontrollable news source for the youth
Smart, intelligent young people are always a threat to calcified, corrupt power structures. Nice to hear their voices!
One thing the US government has not considered is that there are a lot of people who make their living, or augment their income, by being a tiktok creator. Loosing tiktok will be a financial hardship for a helluva lot of people.
No they did take a count of that, they want everyone to go back to corporate slaves
its clear the US Government does not care about the business population on Tik Tok losing their livelihood just as they didnt care about the 7 million people who died from covid
They’ll be told to stop buying avocado toast and pull themselves up by their bootstraps! Then the lawsuits will commence
I guess TikTok users should make their voice heard - in media, in their community, and most importantly, in their votes.
So happy to see such a bright youth! Thank you so much dr.Myriam, love you!
Dr. Myriam Francois ❤
Great to see you on aljazeera myriam francois :)
TikTok Ban will not prevent anything in nowadays era. Some geniuses will invent other outlets for humanity to express creativities. Also it’s impossible to control young generation of their political direction. They have their own way of finding truths and following their aspirations.
What a great analysis. Myriam Francois is FANTASTIC!!!
Love and respect for you Ma'am Dr. Myriam Francois ❤
Fantastic discussion! This is one of the best episodes from Al Jazeera. Keep up the great work! 👍
Tiktok gives people power with real news and entertainment
We love Myriam François !!
Greetings from Belgium and Morocco!
The disastrous fleeing of users from X (ex- Twitter) just show how users easily migrate from a platform to another.
And GenZ using ONLY the very platform they risk to lose for sharing their concerns just show their incompetence in making themselves heard by the very people who are deciding on the matter
TikTok is not the problem. All social media are not the problem. The problems go to: 1) those who spread lies, hoaxes, and propaganda; 2) fake users' identity; 3) too much political and seem like limiting people's genuine expressions (government intervention).
Those may be bigger problems, but the American legislature isn't concerned about those sorts of problems. The rich American data-brokers want to sell American data to rich Chinese data-brokers, they are concerned that rich Chinese data-brokers are cutting the rich American data-brokers out of the loop by harvesting American data themselves. The concerned rich American data-brokers lobby (bribe) the legislatures to be concerned on their behalf.
By far the most insightful, concise, and intelligent discourse on the TikTok bill. Kudos to Genzie, because they seem to get it more than their elders do.
Why do people still act like gen z means teenagers??? You could be 29 years old and be considered gen z.
Make that 27. I’m the youngest millennial at 28. I was born in 1996. I was certainly born on the tail end. The cusp. Still, I’m a millennial. Not Gen Z. My parents were boomers. My brother is an older millennial born in 1986. I was one of the last kids to know life before the internet took over.
Still, I agree, the narrative around Gen Z will need to change soon. Only the youngest of Gen Z are in HS and some of the Alpha kids are getting to be like 10 or 11. They’re not all babies and toddlers anymore.
Oh, by banning TikTok to US, it does not constitute a security risk? Why is that??? TikTok is just the same as iPhone. Microsoft , FaceBook, WhatsApp and other US apps, collecting personal preference for upgrading and service! What risk except that it will outcompete those American Apps???
Sorry but giving that "hey fellow kids" vibe lol
What a delight to see Dr. Myriam Francois on Aljazeera platform. Again another indication that Aljazeera values intelligence and deliberate debate. Thank you.
The problem with this APP is that when people are not rational in nature and do not want to take the time to understand the truth, people get used to being able to understand everything in tens of seconds. They are arrogant, self-righteous, and criticize others.
Very proud of these young generation so smart, fight for their rights, challenge government to find ways to serve better people needs. We number one country in the world, we should have government confidence to tackle this issue. Ban tik Tok is not Best solution.
This is to eliminate competition for FB,Instagram and X.
In the U.S.. the only thing that matters to the politician is "vote." If the young people cannot translate their dissatisfaction into action by voting these politicians out of office, then they have no one to blame but themselves. Based on the vote count in the congress, it is pretty certain the politicians knew these young people will not vote in the coming elections. Here is another way to look at this issue: How many U.S. politicians will dare to vote against Medicare or Social Security benefits? The answer is ZERO (unless they wanted to commit political suicide).
Why should other nations permit Facebook considering their involvement in political interference in other countries alongside Cambridge Analytica?
they can't control the app.. respect for tiktok
I don't have Tik Tok app, but it sounds quite fun, democratic and / or useful if government is going to ban it.
Why would those people use Tik-Tok if they found Tik-Tok is a malicious application?
Trevor Noah is the absolute worst
I used to be his fan, but not anymore
He made no sense as the content is American. He is saying American content is bad for America.
Its time to rise up together to vote down those who ban TikTok, to show them we care.
You don't need an Individual to have a Dictatorship, in this case, its a Collective Dictatorship with The Hill & The House..