Rare Footage: Haga Junichi, Genius Swordsman of Showa Period Kendo
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- Опубликовано: 11 дек 2010
- 羽賀準一: 昭和剣道界の鬼才
Haga Junichi: Genius Swordsman of the Showa Kendo World
Rare footage, plus old-style Kendo footage.
This video is kindly provided to me by Fujimori-Sensei and Uki-Kaicho of Ikkenkai, Haga-Dojo, and uploaded with their kind permission.
I hope this video can be appreciated by many.
Please visit Ikkenkai, Haga-Dojo's website at:
- haga-dojo.operacity.com
- www.hagaha-kendou.com
Sincerely,
Jack Chen
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Much respect to this gentleman for his dedication to mastering this art form.
Is that Electrocompaniet sign?
Seriously? People actually think this guy is "slow?" Or has "trouble" handling his sword? Look at his eyes, never once do they fall onto his hands. He never has to look at where his sword is going. Even when sheathing the sword his eyes are always forward. Also he has no wasted movement what so ever. His left wrist turns everything the blade does to meet it perfectly when sheathing it.
Martial arts is based on understanding, hard work and full understanding of techniques. Good techniques are those involving fast changes, wide variety and speed. Body training, mind training, mind training True Knowledge The way to transcend karma is in the correct use of mind and will. The unity of all life is a truth that can only be fully realized when the false notions of a separate person, whose destiny can be considered apart from the whole, are annihilated forever. Emptiness includes everything and has no opposite, that is, there is nothing that it excludes or opposes. Become a wooden puppet: he has no ego, thinks nothing, is not greedy or clinging to anything or anyone. The expression of an artist is the display of his soul, education and composure. Behind all movements, the music of his soul becomes visible. The masters of all branches of the arts must first be masters of life, since the soul creates everything. The biggest mistake is to anticipate the outcome of the fight. Simplicity is the shortest distance between two points. Struggling behavior should not be different from normal behavior, his expression should not change, nothing should denounce the fact that he is engaged in deadly combat. A conditioned mind will never be a free mind. Fighter must always be a stubborn, single purpose: fight, without looking back or sideways. He must get rid of the restrictions of his movements, be they emotional, physical or intellectual. To meditate means to realize how imperturbable our original nature is. Concentration is a form of exclusion; It is a narrowing of the mind ...
Long Nguyen , that is not hard to learn. i mean not to look.
Flawless execution of the techniques without looking is hard.
the way he sheathes just shows how much practice this guy had
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OMG, it's my dad and grandpa's master. Haga sensei! :D
I've heard a lot of his "Eyes-opening" story from my dad.
Thanks for uploading.
Can you tell some of those stories here?
Haga Junichi san demonstrates clearly something I think even all but a very few Japanese have forgotten, i.e, the complete and total devotion of spirit and the uncluttered mind of a real Samurai. A man dedicated to Budo and to something we all try to attain but seldom do... living life as sharp and as clean as the sword.
One has to remember just how SHARP that sword is when watching him putting it back into the sheath, so effortlessly in flowing moves.
Thanks for uploading this.
Heard iaidoka who train with sharp swords tell me they've all cut themselves at least once
@@eedwardgrey2 check that
you can tell how master a swordman is when how they are fast to bring back to safety the sword. amazing..... he hold the sword for a quiet long time indeed
***** are you a swords man?
Very true
Just beautiful. Thanks many times for posting this treasure!
Wow! This is outstanding.
Probably my favourite Iaido video I've seen on RUclips do far.
Thank you for posting.
His skill is deadly, by his movements he's had a lot of real encounters, domo origato
some say that thats how Van Gogh actually lost his ear
because van gogh was shit at kendo?
It's very moving watching this. Thanks for posting.
thank you for sharing this masterpiece.
beautiful, ty for uploading
You can tell by looking at his face that he's already imagined exactly how is opponent will be cut down before ever drawing his sword. You're dead before you can even start.
very informative footage of techniques... thanks for posting!!!
Look at the end!
A complete samurai does indeed practice not just Ken Jutsu, but Jiu Jitsu as well!
It's amazing that they're doing ground fights & grappling in a weapon-centered martial arts.
Thank you for sharing this piece of history of Kendo. I did subscribe .
This is absolutely amazing - apparently all shoden and Chuden waza of MJER. absoluitely beautiful, great source of inspiration for practice. I am in awe at the mastery ! Thank you so much for posting this video !
伝説の剣道家羽賀先生の動画があるなんて。めちゃくちゃ強かったと聞く。
Really useful! I do fight choreography for the stage and am always looking to make it seem as real as possible...we study actual martial moves and try to make them safe for actors while not losing the look of reality. This is a great video for that.
Beautiful. This is what years and years of practice will do. Look at that form
--a master of his art! HIghest gratitude for this video!
+shooter2055 wtf is this!? is this a rarity, of this old man, drawing and seathing his stick....
jes'....
The first set of kata in MJER is also known as Omori-ryu, and he's very good at it, as well as the Chuden kata that start from taté-hiza. His noto (resheathing) is poetry in motion.
The Gekkiken at the end is a cherry on top!!
A jewel of a video.
Yeah he's not being awkward when drawing his sword. He's drawing within his centre...neither giving or overstepping his ground. With this they are able to utilise their sword indoors as well as CQB outdoors amongst other reasons. Everything...every move, ever flick(blood removal)...everything is done for a reason. When you know what you're looking at, it's a wonder to behold! Thanks for sharing.
Amazing video, and how strange, you uploaded this video on my birthday :)
Nice to see these kata in a raw undeveloped state. Thanks for uploading.
The way he swings that sword with his right hand over his head just before he re-sheaths, it's a wonder he doesn't slice off half his own head.
All I have to say is amazing
Nice demonstration!
try using a katana with both hands like in normal kendo for example. one hand near the tsuba, one hand near the end of the handle. you will notice, that you use your arms more than your body. now look at him, he is taking both hands really close to the tsuba, so he can't use only his arms to move the sword. that's more like the samurai used it back then, it's way faster because you need to use your whole body to move your sword. only one of the things to learn here.source of info: Yoshinori Kono
I would have to agree with the person or persons before who nit-picked the kisaki etc. and the lack of smoothness and fluidity. (overall grace really) That being said he is obviously very good at whatever style of kendo etc this is, but it also shows the glaring differences between styles and probably what was important in kendo/Iaido of his time vs what is important to many today.
for instance when he does chiburi he steps back at an angle before performing noto, today most modern schools prefer strait back.
second when beginning his suwari waza from seiza he moves all the way up and begins to turn before drawing his sword where most schools today prefer rising, drawing, and turning as one fluid motion.
Finally when cutting or swinging of the sword of any kind most modern schools prefer smooth and controlled, his cuts etc stop abruptly and are not as controlled as most modern schools teach. (Though his body mechanics are perfect.)
That being said it does say he does Kendo which doesn't practice for smoothness the way Iai does. Also during this time most people probably practiced for actual use and cutting with a sword vs emphasizing looking good over functionality like most Iai schools do today.
By today's standards this isn't the showy, graceful, fluid swordsmanship most prefer. However this was probably the strong, forceful, and functional swordsmanship it was meant to be.
To compare, look up "seitei iaido", modern "kendo" katas, or either of the "eishin ryu" schools and you'll see the difference.
I'm sure some people will be mad and/or disagree, but it's not meant to illicit anger it's just what i see. (I'm sure there are exceptions but i haven't experienced them.)
Thank you for some really interesting information, Much appreciated.
You have to remember that this man likely started his training in the late 1800s (he looks to be in his 50s or 60s), so he likely received training from retired Edo-period samurai. I'm going to assume that they practiced iaido in a much different form than we do now.
EDIT: Well, not *much* different, but different enough.
EDIT2: Did some research, Junichi Haga was born in 1908, so he probably didn't learn from samurai, but he was only one generation removed, and may have even met the founder of his school, Negishi Shingorō, though he would only have been 4-5 at the time.
I agree completely This is probably much closer to true samurai than most of what we see today.
I think most of the appearance of jerkiness is due to the fact that the video isn't playing at the proper speed. It's playing too fast.
Differences in detail as to how certain waza are performed aren't a problem, different Ryu (schools) are just different. I don't think it has anything to do with "modern vs. 'real samurai'". These are the same waza that are practiced today.
This is Perfect 💯
The grappling/mma at the end is very interesting g
OoOoOoOoOoOo "Abruptly" "Unscathed" Literary badass right there
Grappling at the end pretty kool
I hope I'm half as good when I'm that age. Beautiful swordsmanship and display of spirit. It's a lifetime pursuit after all.
This is control and art of fighting beyond words !!
people can stay in a martial art for years and then suddenly realise that its missing a hell of alot that they may need to depend on. this video is an example of the ways things should still be today exellent vid
Haga Sensei was considered a genius. And if you know something about Iai you would understand how outstanding his waza is in this video. He was also famous for taking on multiple opponents, at one time defeating 5 soldiers armed with shinai and to wooden guns used in jukendo. Our Kendo practice follows pr-war rules. So, body checking, taiatari, and grappling, kumiuchi, are allowed.
Those sideways re-sheathes are incredible
Nice :)
Holy crap this guy is awesome
Holy crap, this man's noto is amazing!
Many comments question speed, sitting, direction etc...Keep in mind these are kata. Therefore some movements are meant to be slow; 11 out of 12 of the first kata are seated, but then you have many standing kata once you practice other series. These movements in these kata are at times predictable, but that is because the form is meant to be slow and not realistic. We practice Iai, but then we spar with bokken, both are two sides of a coin. In addition: people, this is one of the most famous swordsmen. His notto (sheating) is fabulous, for example.
it's a good speed technical.
-Noto
'Nuki tsuke and ........👍👌👈
Perfect mastery of Mae, 1st Iaido kata. I would love to be that good.
I greatly enjoyed seeing the Jiujitsu practice in Kendo gear. It's sad that the first time I've ever seen the two combined is from a video from 50-60 years ago. It shows that, in the beginning, the martial arts pursued an ultimate form of combat, and didn't restrict the art to a single purpose. I would like more of that.
Incredible
loving the blood removal moves before re-sheathing...
something most commentators here seem to miss is that those old 16mm cinatomatic footages run faster than normal speed
Truly a master
This is wonderful. You can see this is not some BS swordsman. I see some Iaido katas. Thank you for this.
Up until 6:07, it's ALL Iaido "katas". (Waza is the more correct term than kata).
Respect for the grande master🙏🙏🙏🙏🙏
1:25- one of the best Ryuto I've ever seen.
he needs a showa
You don't want to be at the end of that sword.
Yes i do, i would love to feel his ito
Maravilloso!!...
extremely accurate
and there was some god grappling in the end.Looks like modern BJJ with the guard and the wracking ball pass,good atempts for the sweep from the guy in the guard. Very very cool video.
+Srdjan Milosavljevic Yeah I was about to say! That looks like guard!
Its like vale tudo quard..more open then classic BJJ
Sensei Haga demonstrating koryu iai.
Many are from either of 2 seated positions, but there are also many standing forms as there are also standing versions of the seated forms. The latter are mainly for westerners who have problems kneeling (this does not seem to affect the Japanese as much as they spend much of their lives kneeling).
That takes a lifetime.
great stance accurate and perfect no wander he is a master...
It looks as if his motions are robotic yet flowing at the same time.... o,o thats creepy and cool all at the same time
Easy to tell who was the more confident swordsman of the two.
the best draw and cut exercise seen
Nice
This is an art many will never understand.
i used to practice kendo and iaido 30 years ago and was very fond of the japanese culture. today i look back smiling and i am asking myself why it is so important to know how to make minced meat out of my fellow man.
If you did kendo in order to know how to 'make minced meat of your fellow man', you absolutely missed the point of kendo. To train the mind, body and spirit is the objective of kendo, so that people don't do bad things to each other. That is atleast how I see it myself.
Mrakoplasz a nah, i do of course know about the effort that has been made to make kenjiutsu into a Do. But actually i can still smell where it came from: Killing your opponent.You hit men in order to slice the head, Kote, to cut his hand off and so forth. Add what is present in Japanese culture today, Zatoichi, Yojimbo, Lone Wolf etc. Slicing, Killing, Sepuku. That is strange to me today.
Mrakoplasz Your ignorance of what you believe in reminds me of religious fanatics who have never read their own holy books. You are the one who missed the point of kendo.
You are obviously ignorant of the horrendous and sadistic atrocities committed by the samurai on the peasants and the unarmed civilians. Wholesale massacres and human trafficking of the civilians were casually carried out by the samurai, not to mention the systemic sexual violence on the female populations in times of war. These are well-documented historical facts.
You are just a consumer of the "beautified" and "sanitized" rendition and sugar-coating of the real bushido, which was propagated by the modern Japanese media. The samurai was not about honour. It was about the willingness to engage in extreme violence with an unflinching eye. Such mindset invariably harbours sadism and inherent denial/disregard of any value attached to human life.
After all, bushido is, more than anything, about unconditional obedience to your higher-ups, fearlessness in violent confrontations, and revenge, which also happen to be the defining characteristics of any modern organized criminal groups and street gangs, regardless of their cultural or national origins.
The samurai culture is just a more refined and codified form of the business of the modern criminal organizations: the exploitation and subjugation of the unarmed and helpless peasants for the purpose of taxation ("protection money"), the competition over which one clan (gang) must engage in warfare with others, which in turn necessitates the obsession over the killing techniques and fearlessness in a turf war.
But then again, the above description can apply to any class of fighting men serving the ruling class, ie, knights in Europe, although their behaviours and philosophy behind how they treated the peasants slightly differed from culture to culture. The difference is that the samurai were the ruling class PLUS the fighting men. Therefore, they were the self-serving fighting men, maintaining their own rule over the peasants.
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You seem to be very knowledgeable in the historical aspect of "bushido," but you mentioned nothing about kendo itself. Therefore, I will assume that you know nothing about the role of kendo in modern life. Anybody that spends a reasonable amount of time practicing kendo would know how different modern kendo is from the former "killing techniques." You are right about how the artifacts of the past related to bushido and samurais are glorified, but that has nothing to do with modern kendo. Despite its origins, it is no longer about "killing" people, just like fencing. It has become a sport, and with training comes discipline. The "training of the mind, body, and spirit" is just a product of the process.
hofmanntho - Ditto. I did EXACTLY the same thing and after 24 yrs training, reached the same conclusions as yourself. I'd thought I was alone in this.
Have a look at the wikipedia entry on Shindo Munen Ryu.
Snip...
"His successor Nakayama Hakudo continued to preserve Shindo Munen Ryu throughout the Taisho and Showa Periods by producing some of the best swordsmen in modern history. Examples are Nakayama Zenowndo, Hashimoto Toyo, Nagakura Kiyoshi, Haga Junichi, and Nakashima Gorozo."
I didn't know the guy personally, but he is a known and respected figure.
You're missing the obvious fact that this guy is ridiculously limber. I couldn't walk around crouched like that. He has a lot of muscle down in his core and his legs and it means that he's got a very good grasp on his center of gravity. Scary guy.
Gotta love the ending, prequel to MMA?
Beautiful movement alternating speed and power as 1 fluent effortless movement. Like stretching an pulling a rubber band before it's released......SNAP!!!!
keep an eye on where the gun is pointed keep an eye out for any of the twitches or signs that the person is about to pull the trigger and avoid the spot where the gun is aimed, especially if you're a good distance away it'd be easier still, not for someone like me or you but for someone like the guy in the video it's definitely possible.
すごい と とても おもしろい ですね
Умничка.Вот как надо работать.Спасибо.
This is beautiful. It is not raw or undeveloped just because it is not seitei.
Seitei is an introduction to iaido. It is 'standard' in the sense 'standardised' for the purposes of grading and competition. It is not 'standard' in the sense of a standard to measure other things against.
A human can't dodge a moving bullet, but it is possible to move at the right time, timing, where it can appear as if they dodge it, if it was quick enough, and if it was the right timing.
A 9MM bullet travels at about 681.8 MPH. If one tries to move when the bullet fires, they are probably not even traveling at quite less (not enough speed + time to build up that speed. The bullet is going to catch them. But, to move out of the way, before the fire, which can appear as a dodge.
So.. how will I spend the last 5% of my battery life in a place where no electricity?
This.
History in motion
wow,pretty wild speculation. and i suspect pretty much possible.
This is not kendo, but iaido, the art of drawing a sword.
He is doing a demonstration of all the 12 iaido katas.
Actually impressive how he puts back the katana back in the case (sorry i don't know what the specific name of the case is) in high speed without stabbing his hand.
+Ivan Visita (Rukiokai) his chiburi(blood shake) and noto are impresive. well hes only doing 40 years 500 cuts a day probably
Большое Мастерство ...
I really like the stuff that starts at 4:07
Yes, it is perfectly possible to become proficient in many martial arts at a later age in life. You're probably not going to become world champion, but you can gain a good level of skill, control and strength. One guy who trains in our dojo started at 68 and is now 73. He could easily pass his first Dan, perhaps second.
When you master the ashina skill tree
Bahahahahahaha awesome reference
there are people with enough speed and good enough reaction time and intuition to slice a pellet from an airsoft gun in half and that was travelling at 150 meters per second, without worrying about sub-millimeter precision and just staying out of the way that person could probably dodge bullets quite a bit as long as he keeps his focus.
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Rare Footage: Haga Junichi, Genius Swordsman of Showa Period Kendo
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He trained under Steven Seagal in the 1970s before moving to Holywood in the 1980s where he choreographed the sword fight scenes in movies such as Saving Private Ryan and The Last of the Mohicans.
Brian Hart Good to know that Steven Seagal taught this guy.
This is either humour I don't understand or you are mistaken. It would be impressive considering he died in 1966 whilst Seagal was only 14 years old. No sword fights in SPR is there?
***** its an obvious joke I thought it was funny
+Brian Hart what? Seagal barely reached the level to teach beginners in kendo... His thing is AIKIDO man
Everybody knows it was David Carradine.
You quote that it has to do with the "mind of the wielder." Well there are various ways to cultivate the mind, all of which I would say essentially involve overcoming "fear" and its various facets. While one way to do this is to engage in real life combat, honing precision technique without such engagement can conceivably accomplish a similar path to focus. Musashi was clearly in a position in his life where he could justify his desire to pursue sword combat. And while many of us today
His perceived speed may be impacted by the weight of the sword. If it is an actual battle-ready weapon, it may be heavier than the shinken that is used by modern practitioners. It is hard to be blindingly fast in real life with a real weapon where accidents can be very dangerous.
i wish there were places where bieng a TROLL were just outright not permitted, if this was my channel id delete all these stupid posts, nothing can dodge a bullet, blah blah argue that, , this footage is a gem , thank you for the upload
He was apparently trained by Munisai in the sword, and in the family art of the jutte. This training did not last for a very long time, as in 1589, Munisai was ordered by Shinmen Sokan to kill Munisai's student, Honiden Gekinosuke. The Honiden family was displeased, and so Munisai was forced to move. He was born in 1584. Math says that five years training and he was five 2 yrs off for age. now three years of training, a year or so off for uncles teachings 1 or 2 years training.
very nice battojutsu
Limber or not. I'm reacting to the fact that you can pretty much tell which directing his attack is going to come from. Plus his two-handed grasp on the blade shortens his reach relative to a fencer. Finally, in order to generate power for a strike he has to raise his sword which opens him up for attack from the front. Again, I don't know how it would play out between a fencer, but this style seems deficient.
Yes
velocity and accuracy