People fighting about Apple in the comments, but am I the only one who is excited to see such fierce competition within the industry? Like it’s crazy how powerful arm processors are getting, we literally have the ability to play AAA games on handhelds now with the ROG ally and the likes, crazy exciting times to like tech’
yeah new competition is absolutely great, but unfortunately fanboys exist, which is so damn weird; to feel the need to stand-up for "your prefered company"
Very good achievement by Qualcomm. Competition is great and benefits consumers. I was hoping that they would bring out a competitor to Nvidia A100 chip, No worries; I will take what they gave. Still impressive. I like how Apple now knows that there is competition in the ARM laptop segment.
"Competition is great and benefits consumers" Is it really so? Wouldn't co-operation benefit people more? All competition seems to do, is create walled ecosystems and hinder progress and innovation via patents & big corporations taking over smaller before they become threats.
@@Nobody-Nowhere It makes sense to cooperate as far as standards like WiFi, Bluetooth, cellular connectivity (ironically here Qualcomm is so monopolistic that even Apple and Samsung had to collaborate on suing them) but in general most ARM CPUs are capable of running similar instructions so it's only a good thing that you can have ARM based Windows, Linux, and Chrome OS laptops that are competitive with MacBooks as far as balance of battery life and performance goes.
@@georgenoble1628 Cooperation has created incredible discoveries. People keep forgetting that most scientific discoveries were publicly funded research, or college researchers. This includes the internet and computer technology you are using right now.
@@garrusvakarian8709 It'll be more comparable to the M2 pro and M2 Max. M3 pro and M3 max will blow this thing a new load. In fact Apple is having an event next week and the Title of the event is called, "Scary Fast". I'm guessing they will be unveiling the M3 Chips for their laptops. It'll be interesting.
@@garrusvakarian8709let’s wait and see before concluding on things we don’t know yet. We’ll have to wait for 30rd October to see what Apple will release
This is not only a great move for mobile computing but AR/MR/VR tech as well. The Quest 3 is already pretty good with the CPU it has now, imagine how much better it could be with this chip in it.
Hahaha you mean that OS that for 10+ years can't fix it's desktop transition animation? The OS that still has visual bugs as simple and as obvious as the maximize button being smaller? I don't think so...
Qualcomm really brought it! We're on the cusp where a mobile SoC can begin to replace the typical consumers computer: Have a top end 8Gen3 mobile phone, adequate storage a proper desktop mode (Dex), wireless KB/Mouse, wireless projection to a monitor - and software or SaaS (such as Adobe CS, M365, etc) and you're good to go. Now for the working professional, then an RDP session to a cloud hosted Win10/11 would be needed or an admin could just run LInux direct as a desktop UI.
I’m embarrassed to now use an Apple phone with all these Apple idiots in the comments. Competition is great! This is great! Also, M1 to M2 was so incremental, no one talked about it. Don’t assume M3 will be a transformation.
Competition is great, I'm still skeptical of this chip, these apple style graphs are so annoying & we haven't seen evidence that it can outperform M2. M3 hasn't been announced yet, so we have no idea how powerful it is (yet) Also, M2? M2 Pro or M2 Max, we will find out soon.
X elite cannot outperform M2 Max GPU. 3D Mark wildlife extreme test X Elite = 44FPS M2 Max = 151FPS there's no even a competition right there. And now apple introduces M3 Max with Ray Tracing I don't think it can outperform the M3 Max.
But isn't comparing 4nm product to 5nm a bit cheating? Like for like, the M2 would probably still be miles ahead, and the M3 would annihilate everything!
Problem solved, M4 kick out of this chip from the market (regardless the basic M4 still have less amount of cores, so still not a 12 cores against 12 cores comparison.. also if you aware of that they already announced the Snapdragon X Plus as a cheaper chip, you can be sure the X Elite wasn't even the basic M2/M3 competitor, it was the M2/M3 Pro and M2/M3 Max competitor, and they are not performed very well against those chips.. but M4 already on the market, but X Elite still nowhere.. so more and more pointless to make this comparisons, once they release, you will get their true color (so the rumors about the cheated benchmarks etc.. btw it's not exactly a cheat, but the X Elite had cooler, and the Macbook Air was fanless.. so just wait for the real comparison cooler vs cooler and fanless vs fanless..)
I hope they come out with a highly efficient LLM to run on device. I don't think people understand that getting GPT-4 level performance takes a datacenter and can't be run on a handheld device locally.
The confidence in their speeches means they have been testing and laughing at their competitors You can see them smile 😂 whenever they say its better 😅
This is what happens when you don’t value engineering talent enough and they leave and join a new company, nice one Apple! Excellent work Nuvia / Qualcomm, that Oryon chip looks fantastic compared to the same old re-hashed M1 chip that is in the M2 and most likely the M3 as well. But the hardest part remains ahead of you, and that is getting Windows people to transition from x86 to ARM, which means getting devs to re-write all their apps, good luck with that.
True. Fun fact - devs did rewrite for M1 chips. If their claim is proven in benchmarks, they will change our ecosystem for good and I hope for sustainability sake, this happens.
If I am not wrong Microsoft already has emulator to run x86 apps on ARM hardware. If Qualcomm's claims are true. Experience of running x86 apps on emulator will still be good.
I don't know why I have this gut feeling that those are numbers achieved by highly optimized apps. I use a 2009 legacy Windows CAD software every day and I am pretty sure without a magical Apple Rosetta-style translator, it would likely not get those promised gains. And I know I know - 2009??? Yeah but it works flawlessly every time. Gets the job done did. And I own the software and don't have a monthly subscription. I am basically living in a sunsetting software heaven.
If these numbers are true, then this is going to be an earth shattering leap in mobile technology. Imagine all the prototypes that had to be shelved because the tech wasn't there; in the next few years we're going to see a lot of interesting tech that used to be labelled as just a "concept"
It’s the year breakthrough after OpenAI, we cannot wait to see Xiaomi Mac quality laptop with the most powerful Snapdragon X CPU in the market, an ARM Fanless laptop, no noise and full day battery. Congratulations Qualcomm for the achievement.
Exciting times in the world of mobile processors! The new Qualcomm Snapdragon Orion SoC looks great on paper with impressive specs and features. However, it's essential to remember that raw benchmarks and numbers only tell part of the story. Geekbench is fantastic for measuring performance and creating those fancy slides for presentations, but real-life application usage is what truly determines a chip's value. While it may not compete head-to-head with the Apple M3 in certain aspects, we're seeing an incredible level of innovation and competition in the mobile processor market. Different vendors are pushing the boundaries and delivering unique strengths. It's not just about who's on top, but also about the diversity of options available to consumers. So, let's embrace these exciting times as we witness the industry evolve and cater to a wide range of user needs! 📱💥
GPU side, this won't come closer to Nvidia and AMD the same way the M2 is only good for GPU only when they use specific graphic programs because of the specific encoders. Still it is good to see something that finally is power efficient and competitive to Macbooks in the Notebook world
The M3 is based on TSMC 3nm while both this new SoC and the M2 are based on 4nm which makes it the fair comparison. Apple is just willing to drop the cash to get the latest nodes first. That is not a technology lead. Also judging from the A17 pro . Apple doesn't have a massive generational jump on their hands. By any reasonable metric this announcement is impressive
@@samuloflipsitup8314 Because we are comparing the architecture of this new SoC to apple. If you want to do that one of the SoC shouldn't have a TSMC node advantage over the other. Like i said apple is willing to pay more to get first dips on the new nodes. We are comparing technology not bank accounts. Bank accounts you pay for i might add because apple stuff is way more expensive that the market average.
@@samuloflipsitup8314 M2 actually came out in June 2022 and it's based on the A15 Bionic, released in September 2021. It's effectively a two year old iPhone chip, that's been scaled up for the Mac.
am i the only one who thinks they are demonstrating it on windows 12 if am not tripping because the file explorer looks different 6:38 and the laptop for demonstration at the end of the video. i hope Microsoft polishes the windows and makes it to 'just work' and if not better a good enough translator for apps like Apple did so this wont be another thing to stress about. i know there are people paid to think and solve problems there so wont really worry for now. nice to see competition and also proper powerful potable gaming devices.
Very good to see, but the issue now will be if they can be well optimized in the devices that will feature these chips, because one thing is making a good chip and another is a good device and incorporation to go with it, that’s why Apple is ahead because they make both the Hardware, software and chips themselves…
Apple isn't a chip maker. They design the chips. TSMC makes the chips for them. The difference is that they design it, just like Google with Tensor and formerly Samsung with Exynos. But its like you said. A tight integration of hardware and software
tbh the current situation aint about the chip's performance. Its about the apps. though it rly isnt what qualcom can do much about. Hope the app ecosystem develops soon, cuz the idea of arm chip laptop does temp me A LOT
When are these new Processor's being put into production,.? I mean it's a big call to say it's faster than the Apple M chips and in 6 days the new Apple M3 is coming out in a lap top.
Well done and congratulations Qualcomm! This means that finally Windows will produce an official ARM64 version and it will no longer be an eternal beta version. This means that many software will finally be available in ARM64 Windows, including Sentinelle products. 😱👏👏👏
With this kind of performance, android need to step up their game by putting more advance and more high quality apps, and most importantly expand their Android OS support to more than just 5 years. It frustrating when some of the phone already has the same price with the iPhone but cannot compete with iOS app and iOS longevity support. We need to put more serious development for android platform.
This Apple fanboy thing is real. How did it come to tech professionals who are usually unbiased… oh some r not professional. Competition has always been a good thing…
The fact that the Windows laptop input devices (whose mouse and keyboard drivers are Windows-based) "know" when to hand over inputs and when to accept inputs shows a deeper level beyond just app level. All devices are running on snapdragon chips, and there's an awareness happening between the three. Like they mentioned, it's at a hardware level. And that's pretty dope.
This is really great! But why compared with M2 in multithreaded? This seems rather to target M2 Pro, not only in performance but I can see them targeting in price. 🤔
Wow these new processor sounds like a very good improvment! Much better performance and efficiency. A nice competition to the other processor and we hope to get good deals with it.
This Apple fanboy thing is real. How did it come to tech professionals who are usually unbiased… oh some r not professional. I too have Apple everything, Competition has always been a good thing…
Apple launched M2 and it was barely a difference compared to the m1. M3 which will be based on A17 pro is already experiencing overheating issues with the iPhone 15 series And lastly apple quoted the same battery life for the 15 series as in the 14 series With all these I don't think you should be expecting that much from the m3 series
@@Silent.killer_007 The Keynote is misleading it compares to an M2 ( the cpu found on the faneless MBA) and then it compares to an intel i9. What is the Snapdagon Oriyon competing with is hard to tell it could be M2 Pro or Max. Also M2 came out in June, this CPU is reported to come out Mid Next year which is a year gap. It's more accurate to compare to M3/Pro/Max.
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It would be interesting to see how apps runs in windows on arm first. I believed with all the translation involved (x86 to arm), you will need to cut half of the performance out.
Personally am not concerned about how powerful it is over the M1 processors. My concern would be how will the Operating systems harness this power. One thing we can all agree is that the MacOs is fully optimized to harness the power on mac chips... which is not closely available on other operating systems we have
This is no wonder. Those are the same leading engineers from NUVIA, who responsible designed the Apple ARMv8 SoCs ending up with M1/M2 and M3 soon coming.
thats a big step forward when the information are stable true... now comes the price tag question.... we will see soon, hopfully the claims are true....
People fighting about Apple in the comments, but am I the only one who is excited to see such fierce competition within the industry? Like it’s crazy how powerful arm processors are getting, we literally have the ability to play AAA games on handhelds now with the ROG ally and the likes, crazy exciting times to like tech’
The ROG Ally's chip isn't ARM, it's still x86.
@@Zaoe22 ah interesting, still very impressive performance for a single chip!
yeah new competition is absolutely great, but unfortunately fanboys exist, which is so damn weird; to feel the need to stand-up for "your prefered company"
Competition is healthy! I’m all for it. We need to compete globally and domestically.
Well nvidia is also launching their arm based cpu in 2025, and amd also working on arm based cpu. The competition is going to be great 👍
I love how the Snapdragon is trying to be more power efficient as well as with great performance
Something intel ignored! 😅
Naa it's just what happens to be
INTEL DID NOT IGNORED, JUST DID NOT ACHIEVE THE KNOWLEDGE NEEDED @@BACKUPKushPatel
This doesn’t age well
why?@@godzillaeatsushi4979
If the real numbers on the new chip are anywhere close to what they claim, I would love to see its gaming performance
They claim 4.6 TFLOPS GPU performance, which is 1/3rd that of the M2 Max.
where was it mentioned ?@@TheStopwatchGod
@@TheStopwatchGodyup, they still have to catch up in terms of GPU
@@anb4351 Unless they use external GPUs, which are supported on ARM, and there very well might resort to doing
@@TheStopwatchGod TPLOPS are basically meaningless, the Series S, which can run much more demanding games than an M2 Max, "only" has 4 TFLOPS
Windows 12 has to be better optimized to keep up with this processor's potential
okay, thank god
Windows 11 is already well optimised. It is Intel who failed to optimise its chips at the level of AMD and apple.
@@vishnuvijwaniIt's still requires optimization in the ARM Architecture versions and the translation layer may need an overhaul.
Lmao heard it's gonna be a subscription based thing.
after 8 years or 10 years
Very good achievement by Qualcomm. Competition is great and benefits consumers. I was hoping that they would bring out a competitor to Nvidia A100 chip, No worries; I will take what they gave. Still impressive. I like how Apple now knows that there is competition in the ARM laptop segment.
"Competition is great and benefits consumers"
Is it really so? Wouldn't co-operation benefit people more?
All competition seems to do, is create walled ecosystems and hinder progress and innovation via patents & big corporations taking over smaller before they become threats.
@@Nobody-Nowhere It makes sense to cooperate as far as standards like WiFi, Bluetooth, cellular connectivity (ironically here Qualcomm is so monopolistic that even Apple and Samsung had to collaborate on suing them) but in general most ARM CPUs are capable of running similar instructions so it's only a good thing that you can have ARM based Windows, Linux, and Chrome OS laptops that are competitive with MacBooks as far as balance of battery life and performance goes.
@@Nobody-Nowherecooperation only leads to stagnation.
@@georgenoble1628 Cooperation has created incredible discoveries.
People keep forgetting that most scientific discoveries were publicly funded research, or college researchers. This includes the internet and computer technology you are using right now.
Impressive that they claim 30% less power…. compared to M2 Max peak performance. That’s the claim that stands the most.
@@garrusvakarian8709 It'll be more comparable to the M2 pro and M2 Max.
M3 pro and M3 max will blow this thing a new load.
In fact Apple is having an event next week and the Title of the event is called, "Scary Fast". I'm guessing they will be unveiling the M3 Chips for their laptops. It'll be interesting.
@@garrusvakarian8709it will be cheaper than m3 pro
so Qualcomm win
@@garrusvakarian8709let’s wait and see before concluding on things we don’t know yet. We’ll have to wait for 30rd October to see what Apple will release
@@garrusvakarian8709Irrespective of claims, the innovation on this space is outstanding. Period. Apple fan boy or not, this is a consumer blessing.
Doesn't matter windows still needs something like Rosetta 2 for all those x86 applications and games.
This is not only a great move for mobile computing but AR/MR/VR tech as well. The Quest 3 is already pretty good with the CPU it has now, imagine how much better it could be with this chip in it.
Now hoping Windows fully utilizes these chips.
*Linux
@@Tatar_Pianoyear of Linux 😂😂🤡
Hahaha you mean that OS that for 10+ years can't fix it's desktop transition animation?
The OS that still has visual bugs as simple and as obvious as the maximize button being smaller?
I don't think so...
@@HAWXLEADER *the os that the whole internet rely on
@@user-91291 every year is the year of linux. Nowadays even on desktops it works great
Qualcomm really brought it!
We're on the cusp where a mobile SoC can begin to replace the typical consumers computer: Have a top end 8Gen3 mobile phone, adequate storage a proper desktop mode (Dex), wireless KB/Mouse, wireless projection to a monitor - and software or SaaS (such as Adobe CS, M365, etc) and you're good to go. Now for the working professional, then an RDP session to a cloud hosted Win10/11 would be needed or an admin could just run LInux direct as a desktop UI.
This brings hope for portable gaming console.
That's also what I was thinking, but I think it still is far away since a lot of games is still made in x86
I’m embarrassed to now use an Apple phone with all these Apple idiots in the comments. Competition is great! This is great! Also, M1 to M2 was so incremental, no one talked about it. Don’t assume M3 will be a transformation.
Congrats Snapdragon! Everyone should salute any market players that can outperform M2 & M3 chips!
Competition is great, I'm still skeptical of this chip, these apple style graphs are so annoying & we haven't seen evidence that it can outperform M2.
M3 hasn't been announced yet, so we have no idea how powerful it is (yet)
Also, M2? M2 Pro or M2 Max, we will find out soon.
X elite cannot outperform M2 Max GPU.
3D Mark wildlife extreme test
X Elite = 44FPS
M2 Max = 151FPS
there's no even a competition right there. And now apple introduces M3 Max with Ray Tracing I don't think it can outperform the M3 Max.
But isn't comparing 4nm product to 5nm a bit cheating?
Like for like, the M2 would probably still be miles ahead, and the M3 would annihilate everything!
Problem solved, M4 kick out of this chip from the market (regardless the basic M4 still have less amount of cores, so still not a 12 cores against 12 cores comparison.. also if you aware of that they already announced the Snapdragon X Plus as a cheaper chip, you can be sure the X Elite wasn't even the basic M2/M3 competitor, it was the M2/M3 Pro and M2/M3 Max competitor, and they are not performed very well against those chips.. but M4 already on the market, but X Elite still nowhere.. so more and more pointless to make this comparisons, once they release, you will get their true color (so the rumors about the cheated benchmarks etc.. btw it's not exactly a cheat, but the X Elite had cooler, and the Macbook Air was fanless.. so just wait for the real comparison cooler vs cooler and fanless vs fanless..)
I shall calmly wait for the new Surface Pro with the Oryon chip 😌❤ This announcement makes me EXTREMELY happy.
Apple on Oct 30: "The new M3. The best performance per watt ARM chip we've ever made."
its a never ending cycle lol one we'll all benefit from. Competition is good
Who is apple?
A17 pro with overheating issues and apple quoting the same battery life for the 15 series as the 14 series is staring at you from the corner 😂
@@ifrankenstein7455a17 pro is amazing cpu so u can shut up
Unfortunately with how underwhelming tsmc 3nm turned out on the a17 I wouldn’t have high hopes.
I hope they come out with a highly efficient LLM to run on device. I don't think people understand that getting GPT-4 level performance takes a datacenter and can't be run on a handheld device locally.
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The confidence in their speeches means they have been testing and laughing at their competitors
You can see them smile 😂 whenever they say its better 😅
This is what happens when you don’t value engineering talent enough and they leave and join a new company, nice one Apple! Excellent work Nuvia / Qualcomm, that Oryon chip looks fantastic compared to the same old re-hashed M1 chip that is in the M2 and most likely the M3 as well. But the hardest part remains ahead of you, and that is getting Windows people to transition from x86 to ARM, which means getting devs to re-write all their apps, good luck with that.
True. Fun fact - devs did rewrite for M1 chips. If their claim is proven in benchmarks, they will change our ecosystem for good and I hope for sustainability sake, this happens.
If I am not wrong Microsoft already has emulator to run x86 apps on ARM hardware. If Qualcomm's claims are true. Experience of running x86 apps on emulator will still be good.
@@chetan_naik Emulators are slow. Native support had to be adopted like M1 did.
Pretty simple when you're running Linux.
for mainstream, almost no one using linux@@RichAyotte
If better than i9 and 70% less power is true … im sold…my freaking i9 run like an oven just watching a movie!
It's so fascinating to watch how mobile computation has grown over the years & what more can be achieved as time progresses 😮
Really need to shift windows on arm now otherwise i am shifting to MacOS.
Qualcom x elite + Linux will be killer
with this much power and efficiency, all that is left is Windows 12 OS and apps to make it work!
I don't trust graphs, I'm keen to see this being applied, that's a lot of power, Windows on ARM needs more work.
Windows 11 on arm has improved drastically in my experience, what do you think needs improvements?
@@user-91291 X86 emulation
You haven tested windows on arm.
@@Teluric2 Yes
Cool! Just started watching. The Samsung S24 will hopefully receive major upgrades with the Gen 3 for Galaxy! S23 is great!
I just wish Samsung didn't include all their bloatware and just ran pure Android.
fold6 will be groundbreaking!
Samsung has Not much bloatware lol
@@LA_Designer buy a pixel then
@anueladu-nsiah2432 The Pixel 8 is nice, I am not really a fan of the crazy AI. The camera is great, though.
2:25 nobody else think the x86 graph looks a bit skewed? It’s 3,192 vs 3,227 but the bars are way more different for a difference of 35.
Wow, thanks!!! The visual difference between bars looks like 15% which would mean a performance delta around 500 points. How could one miss that ;)
I like how qualcomm shows their numbers. impressive 🙂
Now if they can make installable desktop versions this would be amazing
They haven’t ruled it out, fingers crossed
What!? 30% less power with all that performance. I genuinely GASPED out loud
I don't know why I have this gut feeling that those are numbers achieved by highly optimized apps. I use a 2009 legacy Windows CAD software every day and I am pretty sure without a magical Apple Rosetta-style translator, it would likely not get those promised gains.
And I know I know - 2009??? Yeah but it works flawlessly every time. Gets the job done did. And I own the software and don't have a monthly subscription. I am basically living in a sunsetting software heaven.
Qualcomm is cooking 🔥
Finally some competition!
I hope these chips can run creative apps day-1
Looking forward to see how much battery life it can get on Linux.
That's interesting even on Windows.
Linux won’t run properly on these new processors due to lack of Qualcomm support
@@Ipeacocksyeah my Lenovo flex 5G works amazingly with windows on arm
@@user-91291the benchmarks were ran on Linux
@@user-91291 How's your experience so far with x86 app emulation?
I’m just excited that we’ll have a proper high performance and efficient non apple ARM laptops now.
If these numbers are true, then this is going to be an earth shattering leap in mobile technology. Imagine all the prototypes that had to be shelved because the tech wasn't there; in the next few years we're going to see a lot of interesting tech that used to be labelled as just a "concept"
It’s the year breakthrough after OpenAI, we cannot wait to see Xiaomi Mac quality laptop with the most powerful Snapdragon X CPU in the market, an ARM Fanless laptop, no noise and full day battery. Congratulations Qualcomm for the achievement.
I wanted to see mobile chip comparisons, and how it stack up against that iPhone chip
Exciting times in the world of mobile processors! The new Qualcomm Snapdragon Orion SoC looks great on paper with impressive specs and features. However, it's essential to remember that raw benchmarks and numbers only tell part of the story. Geekbench is fantastic for measuring performance and creating those fancy slides for presentations, but real-life application usage is what truly determines a chip's value.
While it may not compete head-to-head with the Apple M3 in certain aspects, we're seeing an incredible level of innovation and competition in the mobile processor market. Different vendors are pushing the boundaries and delivering unique strengths. It's not just about who's on top, but also about the diversity of options available to consumers. So, let's embrace these exciting times as we witness the industry evolve and cater to a wide range of user needs! 📱💥
All those low power consumption ratings makes it sound like the ideal 24/7 server CPU
GPU side, this won't come closer to Nvidia and AMD the same way the M2 is only good for GPU only when they use specific graphic programs because of the specific encoders.
Still it is good to see something that finally is power efficient and competitive to Macbooks in the Notebook world
if u read the Leaks the upcoming SD8 Gen3 GPU is better than A17 GPU
@@ohyeah5172 i was talking about the Desktop CPU, not the smartphone cpu
Apple's🍎 nervous about its shareholders thanks to Qualcomm. This is why they fast-tracked their M3 release date.
Only few know healthy competition is good
@@sagarmahobia5159 ahh I see now why they will have a mac event held in monday, this is the reason 😂
M3 was always going to be dependent on A17 Pro, they never fast tracked it
Cute to believe that multi billion dollar companies somehow just say “ah damn let’s rush the announcement” 😂
@@ambivalent100 *cough* multi-trillion *cough*
So how does this compare to the M3 Max's performance?
Do ARM processor get desktop pc or mini pc availability tooo😮
Well it is made by the engineers that worked on m1.. so it is possible.. but m3 will probably launch next week..
The M3 is based on TSMC 3nm while both this new SoC and the M2 are based on 4nm which makes it the fair comparison. Apple is just willing to drop the cash to get the latest nodes first. That is not a technology lead.
Also judging from the A17 pro . Apple doesn't have a massive generational jump on their hands.
By any reasonable metric this announcement is impressive
@@quantumdot7393 How is it a fair comparison when M2 came out in June and Qualcomm Elite is coming out in mid 2024?
@@samuloflipsitup8314 Because we are comparing the architecture of this new SoC to apple. If you want to do that one of the SoC shouldn't have a TSMC node advantage over the other. Like i said apple is willing to pay more to get first dips on the new nodes. We are comparing technology not bank accounts. Bank accounts you pay for i might add because apple stuff is way more expensive that the market average.
@@quantumdot7393 M2 is based on N5P, not N4
@@samuloflipsitup8314 M2 actually came out in June 2022 and it's based on the A15 Bionic, released in September 2021. It's effectively a two year old iPhone chip, that's been scaled up for the Mac.
am i the only one who thinks they are demonstrating it on windows 12 if am not tripping because the file explorer looks different 6:38 and the laptop for demonstration at the end of the video.
i hope Microsoft polishes the windows and makes it to 'just work' and if not better a good enough translator for apps like Apple did so this wont be another thing to stress about. i know there are people paid to think and solve problems there so wont really worry for now.
nice to see competition and also proper powerful potable gaming devices.
Finally a possible breakthrough from M series power efficiency monopoly. Undoubtedly these competitions will benefit the end user.
Very good to see, but the issue now will be if they can be well optimized in the devices that will feature these chips, because one thing is making a good chip and another is a good device and incorporation to go with it, that’s why Apple is ahead because they make both the Hardware, software and chips themselves…
Apple isn't a chip maker. They design the chips. TSMC makes the chips for them. The difference is that they design it, just like Google with Tensor and formerly Samsung with Exynos.
But its like you said. A tight integration of hardware and software
Can it run starfield at 60 fps? Will it be more powerful than amd strix point?
Always good and exciting to have competition on the market. Unfortunately for Intel (their own fault), but a big win for us consumers.
tbh the current situation aint about the chip's performance.
Its about the apps.
though it rly isnt what qualcom can do much about.
Hope the app ecosystem develops soon, cuz the idea of arm chip laptop does temp me A LOT
When are these new Processor's being put into production,.? I mean it's a big call to say it's faster than the Apple M chips and in 6 days the new Apple M3 is coming out in a lap top.
I thought this is a chip for mobile computing, not for laptop right?
@@farishakim6759Snapdragon X Elite is for Windows ARM laptops.
Snapdragon 8 Gen 3 is for Android devices.
@@farishakim6759Laptop is a mobile computing
Smartphone are also mobile computing
PC is stationary computing
@@shrin210
Pc always wins
Ohhh this space is about to get so exciting and all consumers will benefit - coming from an Apple fan
So these chip is going to be in next handheld consoles right ? are we going to see them in smarthpones as well ?
Will we finally be able to get raw data rates from camera modules without having to first compress it to miniscule sizes or use pixel binning?
Well done and congratulations Qualcomm! This means that finally Windows will produce an official ARM64 version and it will no longer be an eternal beta version. This means that many software will finally be available in ARM64 Windows, including Sentinelle products. 😱👏👏👏
To be honest, I'm happy for the success of Qualcomm 🔥, I'm waiting for Xperia on 8 gen 3 next year.
With this kind of performance, android need to step up their game by putting more advance and more high quality apps, and most importantly expand their Android OS support to more than just 5 years. It frustrating when some of the phone already has the same price with the iPhone but cannot compete with iOS app and iOS longevity support. We need to put more serious development for android platform.
But still, in the end they still release angry bird and that's it
hardware development outpaced software development anyway,
That’s cute snapdragon flexing before the M3 Max Monday
This Apple fanboy thing is real. How did it come to tech professionals who are usually unbiased… oh some r not professional. Competition has always been a good thing…
The only question is , will Microsoft actually make windows stable enough on ARM???
Aaaa, can't wait Surface Device powered new Snapdragon SOC
Qualcomm, apple, intel, amd, nvidia sheesh we are on heat everyone
They seamlessly integrated two OSes in that last demo? A bit jittery but still wow. Now what will x86 do?
On a specific app...
They haven't shown full OS integration.
The fact that the Windows laptop input devices (whose mouse and keyboard drivers are Windows-based) "know" when to hand over inputs and when to accept inputs shows a deeper level beyond just app level.
All devices are running on snapdragon chips, and there's an awareness happening between the three. Like they mentioned, it's at a hardware level. And that's pretty dope.
This is some mesmerising time to experience awesome new technologies and some crazy tech competition. It is lovely to hear that news. 😎💯💪🏾👍🏾
This is really great! But why compared with M2 in multithreaded? This seems rather to target M2 Pro, not only in performance but I can see them targeting in price. 🤔
Those attendees are getting paid.
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How do you know? just curious.
This Apple fanboy thing is real. How did it come to tech professionals who are usually unbiased… oh some r not professional
Bro you are general Apple fanboys
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Wow these new processor sounds like a very good improvment! Much better performance and efficiency. A nice competition to the other processor and we hope to get good deals with it.
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Man I'm excited for the future laptop with this new chip. Really hope the actual performance is as per the slides. Competition is good.
its a short live if does really lead… M3 will be announced soon… Scary Fast event 30th Oct
M3: hold my beer.
This Apple fanboy thing is real. How did it come to tech professionals who are usually unbiased… oh some r not professional. I too have Apple everything, Competition has always been a good thing…
And the M3 Chip? I guess we will find out next week. Qualcomm does have great technology.
M3 sucked tbh😂 especially M3 pro
I think arm processor should more mainstream than x86
This is GOOD… A step closer to native BootCamp on Apple M-Series!!!
Get ready for some insanely powerful Droid tabs too. 🤩
Bro the Apple M3 chips are getting announced Monday 😂😂🤣😂
This Apple fanboy thing is real. How did it come to tech professionals who are usually unbiased… oh some r not professional
M3 wont touch Orayon 😂
Did u watch the video carefully? This Snapdragon oriyon cpu is 50% faster than m2 in multicore and best apple did with m2 was 18% cpu upgrade over m1💀
Apple launched M2 and it was barely a difference compared to the m1. M3 which will be based on A17 pro is already experiencing overheating issues with the iPhone 15 series
And lastly apple quoted the same battery life for the 15 series as in the 14 series
With all these I don't think you should be expecting that much from the m3 series
@@Silent.killer_007 The Keynote is misleading it compares to an M2 ( the cpu found on the faneless MBA) and then it compares to an intel i9. What is the Snapdagon Oriyon competing with is hard to tell it could be M2 Pro or Max. Also M2 came out in June, this CPU is reported to come out Mid Next year which is a year gap. It's more accurate to compare to M3/Pro/Max.
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Competition is always great 👍
What could be the price of laptop?
If x86 architecture doesn't get any better any time soon, they may become obsolete.
The completion is just too fierce.
It would be interesting to see how apps runs in windows on arm first. I believed with all the translation involved (x86 to arm), you will need to cut half of the performance out.
Google should be watching this.
Question is ….are they talking about performance when is connected to charger or actually laptop style free from power cable?
Now it’s up to Microsoft to optimize windows to not let these chips down. Otherwise MacBook would still be many people’s choice
My goodness please make a snapdragon gaming handheld, at the moment the handhelds that are being made run out of battery power so quickly.
Can it run crysis?
ooh m2 max... isnt M3 coming next week :)
Personally am not concerned about how powerful it is over the M1 processors. My concern would be how will the Operating systems harness this power. One thing we can all agree is that the MacOs is fully optimized to harness the power on mac chips... which is not closely available on other operating systems we have
How is app compatibility though i have spent the day looking into windows on arm and that seems to be the main complaint
Now we need steamdeck or switch to use this in their next handheld to get a better performance and better battery life
I am an apple fan. I am so happy about qualcomm's upgrade
Apple's gonna release the M3 at the end of October.
Those peoples also watching this through phone screen. What is the difference between we and them 😢
Now imagine we can just hook up GPU with that through pcie slot or something like that that would be great.
This is no wonder. Those are the same leading engineers from NUVIA, who responsible designed the Apple ARMv8 SoCs ending up with M1/M2 and M3 soon coming.
Love it how Qualcomm is trying to go head to head with both Apple & Intel.
This should push the industry forward.
Now we need to know how the GPU performance is for PCs/laptops. APUs are the future
I didnt see this coming 😮
It feels ingenuine not comparing anything to AMD CPUs
Intel must be shaking rn. 😅 If not, they should come up with something more compelling. What a great day to be alive. 🙌
Unlikely, since this is ARM SoC which sucks at running x86 applications and games.
thats a big step forward when the information are stable true... now comes the price tag question....
we will see soon, hopfully the claims are true....
0:39 My man on MacBook Pro