oooh, careful, (saying this for others), my physically healthy 17 year old daughter had to have a cardiologist exam before she got green light for adhd medication, as those can mess with heart rythm and if you have un underlying condition you are unaware of, it can go wrong ! also, i had just commented on another video of yours how absurd the process was, because the more you suffer from adhd, the less likely you are to persevere through the diagnostic process. i'm very glad you brought this up !
Hi! Thank you so much for your sweet comments, they made me SUPER SUPER happy! What you wrote is so important, and I really hope your daughter is doing well on the meds too! How incredible is it to have a parent who cares and understands by her side? You are truly awesome! I brought this up in a video I'm working on today and I'm really excited to talk about these things finally, there's so much stigma and silent suffering in this condition that is really motivating me to speak out. Thank you for being here!!
Fellow german here, i have to drive an hour to my psychiatrists, everybody else wasn't even accepting new patients, but I am glad i finally took that huge step and got on medication, life is so much better now.
So happy for you!! It's definitely worth it! It sucks that therapists and psychiatrists are so overbooked, it's a HUGE PROBLEM and a lot of people are just left behind :( I'm so glad things are going good for you! I wish you the best!
I got diagnosed 6 month's ago. Started treatment later and it was a totally failour. I got very sick. After recovering I got to day new medication and it works good so far. Not like last time. I am 55 years old, so it was really time for medication. I hope for a better life from now. Interesting video, even if it was not the way it was for me...Greetings from Norway
Thank you for sharing. No one medication works for everyone or in the same way, so to hear experiences from all sides are important to offer informed consent, which we all deserve.
Just now starting my ADHD journey/ realization. I’m 41 years old. So many weird “quirks” about myself that all of a sudden make total sense. I feel a mix of emotions… thank you for your videos! 🙏🏼🩷
oh mein gott dios mio! i can releat so much, i can maybe call 4 doctors a year.... and i took elvanse yesterday and i had even fun calling them, and ask my questions!! Danke für alles Antonia ;)
@@030cityI went to a normal Psychiatrist, but with the expertise area in ADHD as I wanted the diagnosis from an ADHD experienced psychiatrist instead of a “generic” one. I had to wait for ~ 6 months for my first appointment.
@@030cityyou really need some luck for a spot indeed. For me however, I have to drive for example one hour one way to go to the psychiatrist, so it’s also not that easy I must admit.
I have literally just got a psychiatrist and at the first portal stage and filling out forms… life is very interesting for sure with my symptoms and is consistent way more than the criteria goes. With the other percent?! I absolutely hate not remembering anything or can’t do the basic things like listening and trying to not daydream when I should be paying attention, the emotions and the dodgy driving and it’s a shame that I am only getting checked out for it now as I am 42 and had a life of hell I’ll be honest so onwards and upwards. Preying 🤞🏻 I can stop feeling crap about my relationship to the lady of my dreams and actually return what she does for me and tbh she’s the best testimony a psychiatrist could ask for lol excellent videos, messages and vibes are amazing. Subscribed :)
Wow, thank you for sharing! I relate so much to what you've said here. I ruined many relationships with my impulsivity and even wrecked a few cars too... People always think it's about focus, but it's honestly about your whole life when you have ADHD. I recommend reading "Taking control of adult ADHD" by Russel Barkley while you wait, and I honestly hope the whole process goes quick and smooth for you. Finally, it feels horrible to have lost all of that time before diagnosis, and it's a thing we have to grieve very personally as ADHD humans. I really have nothing comforting to say about it, it sucks BUT at least the future will be brighter, there is hope! It can get better from now on, and that is wonderful news! You're not alone in your struggles. Take care and good luck!!
I’d suggest getting the diagnosis done by a provider who can also prescribe the medication as then you don’t have to find someone else. They really make the processes hard for people with ADHD. Here in the UK there’s a 5 year waiting list locally to get a diagnosis in person but I can get a referral to have an online diagnosis with a specialist in a lot less time.
lol i missed the 2nd step completely and got told that not only I don't have it, but that a person with ADHD wouldn't be able to focus on a task for more than 30minutes. Total nonsense, but oh well, that's the kind of psychiatrist I got. Will be seeking a second opinion
They exist and it's so worth it to sign up and even wait a little to get to see them, cause 1) they'll tell you with more certainty, 2) you'll feel much more understood. Definitely pursue a diagnosis, it could change your life! ❤️
What a horrible experience when the adult ADHD was not taken seriously! I have phone anxiety as well. Received my diagnosis at age 36, last week. Here in The Netherlands there are specialist centers for adult ADHD who evaluate and treat them (with therapy and medication). Knowledge and recognition about ADHD in women specifically still has a long way to go but my centre was mostly up to date, thank god ❤
So happy for you! It is absolutely crucial that women especially get more recognition. I really hope you have a wonderful learning and healing journey ahead!
Hi Antonia! I found your channel today and your videos have taken me out of a heavy emotional slump. I'm three weeks away from assessment. A question: At 8:30 you say "Anything else works really good only after you get on the proper dose of medication... but first, mindset..." and later you have a caption that says 'Medication , then strategy'. Could you please elaborate on what you mean here? Are you saying one should try their best to get their s*** together, but that it'll only come into fruition after medication? Should mindset/strategy come before or after being medicated? Just a bit confused.
Hey Sam! I'm so glad I could give you a little boost! I hope your assessment went well and you got a lot of guidance and understanding from the doctors! I was told by my psychiatrist and have already made the experience that this is the case. The meds help with all the subconscious stuff that holds us back and only then can we truly unfold and do our best with strategy.
I am a nurse and learning German for quite some time now. I only achieved b1 level and feels so lost why I'm not able to progress to b2. Now it all make sense.
Don't beat yourself up! After 15 years of learning I firmly believe that German is unlearnable 😭 but you're already so far ahead! You don't need much more in everyday life. ☺️
Can I ask if everything you received (the diagnosis, medication) is covered by public health insurance? If not, how much it costed for you? Though i know i might need help, my finance is not doing so well as a student
i am on the waiting list for diagnose (Autism and add) since December... in Berlin or Hamburg, so hard to look for help where is this doctor please could you share?
@@AntoniasUniverse thank you! I had my first appointment in Lübeck some days ago. All in German is so hard and now all the papers for my second appointment which honestly makes me so anxious.
I‘m going to have a private diagnosis (1st appointment) on 25.3 here in Berlin. anyone could help me find accepts public insurance please 🥺I can’t afford private. I think I’ll get more sick either the price 😔😔😔
Thats way too much information your psyche asked for. I just be talking about time management, prioritising and lack of attention to tasks. (Australia)
Everything in Germany is so difficult and bureaucratic. I got diagnosed in Brazil, the process was just like what you described. But I live in Germany, in order to get medication I'd have to find a psychiatrist in Germany, but I don't even know if I have the energy for that 😒
I am afraid I will have to go to Germany to get medication if they don't help me in Croatia. Here only concerta is available and maybe strattera i hope i will get strattera because i did research and it would go good with my other medications... 26 years I've been undiagnosed I was bad in school, having tons pf hobbies but never really stick to either one of them it's so frustrating I can't go like this anymore...
@@AntoniasUniverse I understand it's pain in the ass in Europe expecially in the Balkans because doctors here have outdated knowledge about ADHD and it's really hard to get medication. I have read people use drugs like speed because it have amphetamines to self medicate. I would personaly never use such things because it is only 6 % pure so struggle is real. I have appointment in 2 days at psychiatrist and i have my fingers crossed.
Thank you for mentioning that! I have been looking into it more and more recently, I feel like just with ADHD, before you know that things don't actually happen that way in most people's heads, you just assume that what's happening in yours is "normal". I'm really opening up to the possibilities recently.
@@AntoniasUniverse Ha, yeah. The more I dive into this, the more autism traits are visible in me. But I am pretty sure, I will not make it for an autism diagnosis. Just ADHD with autism traits.
Hi, I live in bremen. I really suspect that I have adhd. I've suspect that I've had it since childhood. I'm not sure how to go about my situation. Please can you leave a link to the doctors that helped you. Also, can I get access to the medication here without prescription?
Auf dem Schwarzmarkt der Unis kannst du vielleicht an Ritalin kommen. Hab's aber selbst nicht versucht. Wegen eines Diagnosetermins: Das Einfachste ist wahrscheinlich (war es zumindest für mich), dich durch (Uni-)Kliniken in deiner weiteren Umgebung zu telefonieren. Die haben mittlerweile fast alle eine ADHS-für-Erwachsene-Sprechstunde. Und jetzt, Mitte Januar, bekommst du vielleicht noch einen Termin für die zweite Jahreshälfte. Also, ja, auf Wartezeit solltest du dich einstellen (also auf jeden Fall schnell anrufen) und auch auf komplette Absagen wegen eines vorübergehenden Aufnahmestopps. Ich drück dir die Daumen!
Hey Antonia, can you share the names of the doctors you went to? I'm also living in Germany and I'm really struggling to find someone who is actually taking in ADHD patients and at the same time being able to prescribe medication. Thanks!
Hey Carlos! I went to dr. Jörg Dreher in Koblenz, he is a very busy guy, but it's worth a shot. There are some lists online of ADHD-competent doctors you can talk to, so I would try and ring up all the ones that might be in your area. The thing is you need to go to a psychologist first, but they can't give you medication, just diagnose you. THEN you go to the psychiatrist for the medication. Both are quite hard to find for ADHD people especially, but just search for any possible lists or ADHD groups in your area, ask around and call whoever you can!
@@AntoniasUniverse Oh, ok, you went to a psychologist first. I just paniked, when you said you needed to search for another one to get medication. I don't do the step with the psychologist. I called the psychiatrical departments of hospitals (who offer special ADHD for adults "Sprechstunden") and made an appointment there directly. But this wasn't easy as well. Most of them are overrun at the moment.
ALso, ich hab nur 1 anruf getätigt und innerhalb von zwei wochen ein termin gekriegt. hab mit dem psychiater (er nimmt nur selbstzahler bzw PVK) nur ne halbe stunde gequatscht über meine probleme + fragebogen. dann habe ich die diagnose gekriegt und auch sofort medikinet(denke ich hatte glück). Ich musste dafür aber raus aus meiner stadt und 2 stunden fahren. also in großstädten ist es eine katastrophe und sehr teuer.
Talentum Hamburg. ADHD and HB. Reactive ADH can be secondary of HB. Also female autism is mostly misdiagnosed in germany by unkowing differences to male autism and the whole spectrum. For example selective mutism can be such in women and special interests too
Die rasenden Gedanken habe ich schon immer gehabt. Konnte nie schlafen weil ich immer so “neugierig” war. Auch heute noch mit 39 Jahren kann ich nicht schlafen weil mein Kopf nicht aufhört mich zu nerven. Ich hab adderall und Ritalin probiert und des wirkt nicht gut. Wie cocaine. Einfach nur krasse Energie und total anxiety und nervös und trotzten nicht schlafen können. Ich will Vyvanse probieren. Aber hier in den USA is es soooooo teuer.
This is so relatable! The worst part is dealing with psychiatrists with limited adult Adhd experience. Love from Nigeria
I feel you, it must be sooo much harder in Nigeria! Sending you lots of love and hope you are able to get some help too!
oooh, careful, (saying this for others), my physically healthy 17 year old daughter had to have a cardiologist exam before she got green light for adhd medication, as those can mess with heart rythm and if you have un underlying condition you are unaware of, it can go wrong !
also, i had just commented on another video of yours how absurd the process was, because the more you suffer from adhd, the less likely you are to persevere through the diagnostic process. i'm very glad you brought this up !
Hi! Thank you so much for your sweet comments, they made me SUPER SUPER happy! What you wrote is so important, and I really hope your daughter is doing well on the meds too! How incredible is it to have a parent who cares and understands by her side? You are truly awesome!
I brought this up in a video I'm working on today and I'm really excited to talk about these things finally, there's so much stigma and silent suffering in this condition that is really motivating me to speak out. Thank you for being here!!
Fellow german here, i have to drive an hour to my psychiatrists, everybody else wasn't even accepting new patients, but I am glad i finally took that huge step and got on medication, life is so much better now.
So happy for you!! It's definitely worth it!
It sucks that therapists and psychiatrists are so overbooked, it's a HUGE PROBLEM and a lot of people are just left behind :( I'm so glad things are going good for you! I wish you the best!
I got diagnosed 6 month's ago. Started treatment later and it was a totally failour. I got very sick. After recovering I got to day new medication and it works good so far. Not like last time. I am 55 years old, so it was really time for medication. I hope for a better life from now. Interesting video, even if it was not the way it was for me...Greetings from Norway
Thank you for sharing. No one medication works for everyone or in the same way, so to hear experiences from all sides are important to offer informed consent, which we all deserve.
Just now starting my ADHD journey/ realization. I’m 41 years old. So many weird “quirks” about myself that all of a sudden make total sense. I feel a mix of emotions… thank you for your videos! 🙏🏼🩷
oh mein gott dios mio! i can releat so much, i can maybe call 4 doctors a year.... and i took elvanse yesterday and i had even fun calling them, and ask my questions!! Danke für alles Antonia ;)
Nice video, I got diagnosed today at age of 38 (also living in Germany). I can totally relate to your story, thanks for sharing it!
Danke dir auch für das Teilen! Ich wünsche dir herzlich das Beste in diese neue Lebenshase ❤
Did you go to a private psychiatrist?
@@030cityI went to a normal Psychiatrist, but with the expertise area in ADHD as I wanted the diagnosis from an ADHD experienced psychiatrist instead of a “generic” one.
I had to wait for ~ 6 months for my first appointment.
@@WillyVLDthanks for the info. I have no luck. Now no choice to go to private Psychiatrist 😓.
@@030cityyou really need some luck for a spot indeed. For me however, I have to drive for example one hour one way to go to the psychiatrist, so it’s also not that easy I must admit.
Finally adhd that I can relate to 🎉❤. Idk why but no one seems to be able to explain it like this. Good job 👏 👍 👌.
That's such a sweet thing to say! Thank you for keeping me going! ☺️❤️
I have literally just got a psychiatrist and at the first portal stage and filling out forms… life is very interesting for sure with my symptoms and is consistent way more than the criteria goes. With the other percent?! I absolutely hate not remembering anything or can’t do the basic things like listening and trying to not daydream when I should be paying attention, the emotions and the dodgy driving and it’s a shame that I am only getting checked out for it now as I am 42 and had a life of hell I’ll be honest so onwards and upwards. Preying 🤞🏻 I can stop feeling crap about my relationship to the lady of my dreams and actually return what she does for me and tbh she’s the best testimony a psychiatrist could ask for lol excellent videos, messages and vibes are amazing. Subscribed :)
Wow, thank you for sharing! I relate so much to what you've said here. I ruined many relationships with my impulsivity and even wrecked a few cars too... People always think it's about focus, but it's honestly about your whole life when you have ADHD. I recommend reading "Taking control of adult ADHD" by Russel Barkley while you wait, and I honestly hope the whole process goes quick and smooth for you.
Finally, it feels horrible to have lost all of that time before diagnosis, and it's a thing we have to grieve very personally as ADHD humans. I really have nothing comforting to say about it, it sucks BUT at least the future will be brighter, there is hope! It can get better from now on, and that is wonderful news!
You're not alone in your struggles. Take care and good luck!!
Thank you for your kind words 😊
I’d suggest getting the diagnosis done by a provider who can also prescribe the medication as then you don’t have to find someone else. They really make the processes hard for people with ADHD. Here in the UK there’s a 5 year waiting list locally to get a diagnosis in person but I can get a referral to have an online diagnosis with a specialist in a lot less time.
lol i missed the 2nd step completely and got told that not only I don't have it, but that a person with ADHD wouldn't be able to focus on a task for more than 30minutes. Total nonsense, but oh well, that's the kind of psychiatrist I got. Will be seeking a second opinion
Thank you I was so scared to hear something like this from a doctor so I didn't want to go to therapy now I know I should look for an ADHD specialist
They exist and it's so worth it to sign up and even wait a little to get to see them, cause 1) they'll tell you with more certainty, 2) you'll feel much more understood. Definitely pursue a diagnosis, it could change your life! ❤️
What a horrible experience when the adult ADHD was not taken seriously! I have phone anxiety as well. Received my diagnosis at age 36, last week.
Here in The Netherlands there are specialist centers for adult ADHD who evaluate and treat them (with therapy and medication). Knowledge and recognition about ADHD in women specifically still has a long way to go but my centre was mostly up to date, thank god ❤
So happy for you! It is absolutely crucial that women especially get more recognition. I really hope you have a wonderful learning and healing journey ahead!
Hi Antonia! I found your channel today and your videos have taken me out of a heavy emotional slump. I'm three weeks away from assessment.
A question: At 8:30 you say "Anything else works really good only after you get on the proper dose of medication... but first, mindset..." and later you have a caption that says 'Medication , then strategy'.
Could you please elaborate on what you mean here? Are you saying one should try their best to get their s*** together, but that it'll only come into fruition after medication? Should mindset/strategy come before or after being medicated? Just a bit confused.
Hey Sam! I'm so glad I could give you a little boost! I hope your assessment went well and you got a lot of guidance and understanding from the doctors!
I was told by my psychiatrist and have already made the experience that this is the case. The meds help with all the subconscious stuff that holds us back and only then can we truly unfold and do our best with strategy.
Hey there! I also got diagnosed at 25. I have been assuming it for years.
I'm glad you have some clarity now! We can start rebuilding from here!
@@AntoniasUniverse thank you!! Yes we definitely can :)
I am a nurse and learning German for quite some time now. I only achieved b1 level and feels so lost why I'm not able to progress to b2. Now it all make sense.
Don't beat yourself up! After 15 years of learning I firmly believe that German is unlearnable 😭 but you're already so far ahead! You don't need much more in everyday life. ☺️
Can I ask if everything you received (the diagnosis, medication) is covered by public health insurance? If not, how much it costed for you? Though i know i might need help, my finance is not doing so well as a student
I am on the same stage right now but still searching for diagnosis. Could you please tell me which doctor you went to, please? ❤
And many thanks for your great video!
Sorry, it was in Koblenz, but I'm not sure if he would appreciate me citing his name online. :/
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Ehi friend, the link is not working anymore!
Hi, I have a question. Did you have to make any blood test for hypothyroidism or something else?
i am on the waiting list for diagnose (Autism and add) since December... in Berlin or Hamburg, so hard to look for help where is this doctor please could you share?
Sorry for the late reply! In Koblenz. Smaller cities are definitely better off :(
@@AntoniasUniverse thank you! I had my first appointment in Lübeck some days ago. All in German is so hard and now all the papers for my second appointment which honestly makes me so anxious.
I‘m going to have a private diagnosis (1st appointment) on 25.3 here in Berlin. anyone could help me find accepts public insurance please 🥺I can’t afford private. I think I’ll get more sick either the price 😔😔😔
Thats way too much information your psyche asked for. I just be talking about time management, prioritising and lack of attention to tasks. (Australia)
Everything in Germany is so difficult and bureaucratic. I got diagnosed in Brazil, the process was just like what you described. But I live in Germany, in order to get medication I'd have to find a psychiatrist in Germany, but I don't even know if I have the energy for that 😒
I am afraid I will have to go to Germany to get medication if they don't help me in Croatia. Here only concerta is available and maybe strattera i hope i will get strattera because i did research and it would go good with my other medications... 26 years I've been undiagnosed I was bad in school, having tons pf hobbies but never really stick to either one of them it's so frustrating I can't go like this anymore...
I hope it works! Sadly I have to go back every month and talk to the doctor to get a new prescription 😔
@@AntoniasUniverse I understand it's pain in the ass in Europe expecially in the Balkans because doctors here have outdated knowledge about ADHD and it's really hard to get medication. I have read people use drugs like speed because it have amphetamines to self medicate. I would personaly never use such things because it is only 6 % pure so struggle is real. I have appointment in 2 days at psychiatrist and i have my fingers crossed.
Have you looked into female autism as well bc it presents differently than in males and more than half of adhd people have both diagnosis
Thank you for mentioning that! I have been looking into it more and more recently, I feel like just with ADHD, before you know that things don't actually happen that way in most people's heads, you just assume that what's happening in yours is "normal". I'm really opening up to the possibilities recently.
@@AntoniasUniverse check out ''mom on the spectrums'' video on the two for a good vid👍
@@AntoniasUniverse Ha, yeah. The more I dive into this, the more autism traits are visible in me. But I am pretty sure, I will not make it for an autism diagnosis. Just ADHD with autism traits.
Hi, I live in bremen. I really suspect that I have adhd. I've suspect that I've had it since childhood. I'm not sure how to go about my situation. Please can you leave a link to the doctors that helped you. Also, can I get access to the medication here without prescription?
No, you cannot. Stimulants are highly regulated so you'll need to go through a psychiatrist, sorry.
Auf dem Schwarzmarkt der Unis kannst du vielleicht an Ritalin kommen. Hab's aber selbst nicht versucht.
Wegen eines Diagnosetermins: Das Einfachste ist wahrscheinlich (war es zumindest für mich), dich durch (Uni-)Kliniken in deiner weiteren Umgebung zu telefonieren. Die haben mittlerweile fast alle eine ADHS-für-Erwachsene-Sprechstunde. Und jetzt, Mitte Januar, bekommst du vielleicht noch einen Termin für die zweite Jahreshälfte. Also, ja, auf Wartezeit solltest du dich einstellen (also auf jeden Fall schnell anrufen) und auch auf komplette Absagen wegen eines vorübergehenden Aufnahmestopps.
Ich drück dir die Daumen!
Hey Antonia, can you share the names of the doctors you went to? I'm also living in Germany and I'm really struggling to find someone who is actually taking in ADHD patients and at the same time being able to prescribe medication.
Thanks!
Hey Carlos! I went to dr. Jörg Dreher in Koblenz, he is a very busy guy, but it's worth a shot. There are some lists online of ADHD-competent doctors you can talk to, so I would try and ring up all the ones that might be in your area. The thing is you need to go to a psychologist first, but they can't give you medication, just diagnose you. THEN you go to the psychiatrist for the medication. Both are quite hard to find for ADHD people especially, but just search for any possible lists or ADHD groups in your area, ask around and call whoever you can!
@@AntoniasUniverse thanks a lot, really appreciate your content :)
@@AntoniasUniverse Oh, ok, you went to a psychologist first. I just paniked, when you said you needed to search for another one to get medication.
I don't do the step with the psychologist. I called the psychiatrical departments of hospitals (who offer special ADHD for adults "Sprechstunden") and made an appointment there directly. But this wasn't easy as well. Most of them are overrun at the moment.
ALso, ich hab nur 1 anruf getätigt und innerhalb von zwei wochen ein termin gekriegt. hab mit dem psychiater (er nimmt nur selbstzahler bzw PVK) nur ne halbe stunde gequatscht über meine probleme + fragebogen. dann habe ich die diagnose gekriegt und auch sofort medikinet(denke ich hatte glück). Ich musste dafür aber raus aus meiner stadt und 2 stunden fahren. also in großstädten ist es eine katastrophe und sehr teuer.
With 33
I am awaiting mine with 40 now. And just stumped upon it half a year ago.
Talentum Hamburg. ADHD and HB. Reactive ADH can be secondary of HB. Also female autism is mostly misdiagnosed in germany by unkowing differences to male autism and the whole spectrum. For example selective mutism can be such in women and special interests too
Die rasenden Gedanken habe ich schon immer gehabt. Konnte nie schlafen weil ich immer so “neugierig” war. Auch heute noch mit 39 Jahren kann ich nicht schlafen weil mein Kopf nicht aufhört mich zu nerven. Ich hab adderall und Ritalin probiert und des wirkt nicht gut. Wie cocaine. Einfach nur krasse Energie und total anxiety und nervös und trotzten nicht schlafen können. Ich will Vyvanse probieren. Aber hier in den USA is es soooooo teuer.
German doctors are really the worst! I’ve emailed six yesterday to ask an appointment - we’ll see how it goes…
The healthcare system is absolutely falling apart here (unless you're rich AF) :( I wish you a lot of luck!
@@AntoniasUniverse Could you pls point us to the doctor that helped you with the diagnostic?