We own a 2023 400s dynamic this car is amazing take it from someone that owns one not someone who drives one just one time this dude doesn’t know what he’s talking about
I think the reviewer doesn't like the extra "luxury" and "brand heritage" value from Jaguar brand, so when it compares to a more "economic" brand like bmw, it doesn't justify the price. but again I fully understand that, these extra characters require brand marketing to maintain. Jaguar is more on the luxury vintage sport car segment, efficiency and spacious are not quite the key points. If we look at Maserati or Bentley they're all very expensive for fuel economy and not necessarily fast either.
Also I think the Jaguar price position got a problem, when compare to the BMW Merc and Audi, it is more expensive and slower. The problem is right here, Jaguar is selling not expensive enough. Like if you compare a Bentley Bentayga to BMW X5, it is also more expensive and slower, similar space, why would people buy the Bentayga? However there price range is totally different, Bentley is more about brand heritage , luxury, and social status.
After owning a large number of cars and many different brands over the last 50 years, my 2018 20D (diesel) is the simply the best car I have owned. It's not quick but very economical and virtually trouble free after 165,000KM. No car I have ever owned can put the miles away like this Jag. An 11 hour day in this car is nothing. It simply makes the horizon get closer in great comfort. As it is a bit long in the tooth as they say, my beloved 2018 will now be replaced with a 2025 P400 with the new inline 6. Its anywhere near as good as the 2018, it will likley be the last car I ever buy. In comparison the BMW X3 does notr as well, is full of black plastic and getting service on a BMW is always an issue so I will take the Jag every time.
@@MarekDrivesENG what I don't like from the beginning is the front light, it looks very dull like something from a bmw, actually they're the same with the XF..
We just got one of these and my first impression driving it was rather high road noise in the cabin. Interesting that there are noise cancelling features, need to check on our vehicle if that is automatic or can be turned on/off.
Very accurate review, got my P400 3 month ago (2000km on clock) Honestly, bit dissapointed. It's really jerky in traffics, gearbox often does unnessesary downshifts no matter of modes you choose - really ennoying. Acceleration pedal must be used really gentle, otherwise it goes wild and accelerates faster than you desire... another jerkyness. Infotainment also lags, lazy to response in general. Android auto often loses contact and has to be switched off and on to regain accsess. (Has not checked apple carplay yet) Meridian sound system - meh :( not giving premium feelings you expect from such expensive car. Steering wheel controls - ennoying ! beautifull but also with lag - sometimes you have to push same button 2 times, because very often first command is missed for some unknown reasons. Happens pretty often. And last ennoying thing is fuel consuption. Pros : Cool design,premium interior feel, powerfull engine. Really great sound isollation. And of course cornering - car goes through corners like a sports car which worth mentioning.
@@timt8236 Honestly slightly i got used to it and it doesnot bother me as much as from begining. Fuel consumption is around 14-15 litres in city. Infotainment still suck, lags, android auto needs to be recconected prety often. And streering wheel button controlls still drive me crazy. Voice comands are also terrible. Sometimes works sometimes just deaf. Such premium car should not have those kind of bugs. But driving experice really improved. Its either me - got used to it, or i learned how to drive it gentle and comfortable, or car learned how to behave correctly after 7k miles.
Another 1st class review. I like the jaguar F Pace but I think the E Pace looks more stylish being that little bit smaller but unfortunately much heavier.
I completely agree with your conclusion. Great looking car but it's bloody expensive. Also, I feel like you needed to say Ford Vignale a third time... everything needs to come in threes. When you see the hot babe, always remember that she's gunna cost you.... and I mean cost you a lot. Is it really worth it?
The F-Pace is basically a Range Rover Velar in different clothes. Neither model sell particularly well but the Velar, to me, is by far the most attractive proposition. Is either model worth the money? Certainly not, even if you ignore the horrendous running costs and statistically poor reliability.
Air suspensions are not reliable unless you live in a warm climate Every recall done in any make has always been a water condensation problem in the system
@@michealgampieris325 interesting. I have a friend living in Dubai, and he complains about air suspension cushions deteriorating because of high temperature :)
I'm in a community of around 500 f-pace owners , from 2016 to 2023 models, the only issues we see are the cooling liquid leakage, other than that all run flawlessly.
The answer is "No". After 2 months and 4,500 kms mine is in the garage. Now since 3 weeks, there is a problem with the electronics of the gearbox, but they can't find what it is !
I've had two, a 3.0D for about 18 months and the SVR for about 2.5 years. The only issue I've had is the bonnet microswitch on the SVR which was replace under warranty. Things do go wrong with them, the same things that go wrong on most brands, but it seems when it happens to a JLR product it's because it's a JLR product.
@@MarekDrivesENG Yeah, that's enough. Most cars have abs-related systems that would apply the brakes on the wheel with no traction, so the other one will push the car. If it is a premium car with an LSD then its even easier. You can test it yourself some time.
@@MarekDrivesENG Speaking of Mazda, the cx-60 has rwd model that is popular and seen reviews of it, so Mazda is not shy of giving the rwd model to reviewers. Another example would be iX3, or something from VAG on the MEB platform.
The BMW X3 looks like low budget car near the F Pace. The interior and exterior are so much better on the Jag.
We own a 2023 400s dynamic this car is amazing take it from someone that owns one not someone who drives one just one time this dude doesn’t know what he’s talking about
I love my f pace r dynamic ❤️ i don't drive it in the winter. How do it drive winter months?
@@23misstasha it does surprisingly well.
Thank you convinced me by your arguments
I think the reviewer doesn't like the extra "luxury" and "brand heritage" value from Jaguar brand, so when it compares to a more "economic" brand like bmw, it doesn't justify the price. but again I fully understand that, these extra characters require brand marketing to maintain. Jaguar is more on the luxury vintage sport car segment, efficiency and spacious are not quite the key points. If we look at Maserati or Bentley they're all very expensive for fuel economy and not necessarily fast either.
Also I think the Jaguar price position got a problem, when compare to the BMW Merc and Audi, it is more expensive and slower. The problem is right here, Jaguar is selling not expensive enough. Like if you compare a Bentley Bentayga to BMW X5, it is also more expensive and slower, similar space, why would people buy the Bentayga? However there price range is totally different, Bentley is more about brand heritage , luxury, and social status.
Very nice understandable details of your introduction...I just ❤ it...👍
A good, honest review for which I am grateful. BTW, do you always match your watch band to the interior of the vehicle you are reviewing? 🙂
Thanks. No, this was a coincidence :)
Ta for the mention of Cheshire Marek. Always good to hear. That cat was the biggest publicity we've ever had 👍
The intro was hilarious : ) I feel the same about this SUV, its there, a bit pointless but it exists. It has a nice back i guess..
After owning a large number of cars and many different brands over the last 50 years, my 2018 20D (diesel) is the simply the best car I have owned. It's not quick but very economical and virtually trouble free after 165,000KM. No car I have ever owned can put the miles away like this Jag. An 11 hour day in this car is nothing. It simply makes the horizon get closer in great comfort. As it is a bit long in the tooth as they say, my beloved 2018 will now be replaced with a 2025 P400 with the new inline 6. Its anywhere near as good as the 2018, it will likley be the last car I ever buy. In comparison the BMW X3 does notr as well, is full of black plastic and getting service on a BMW is always an issue so I will take the Jag every time.
I just came across this channel. I’m so excited because I really dig your dry wit and superb sense of humor! 😅
I'm glad you found me then :)
Great review.
You deserve alot more viewes.
Glad you think so!
Just got mine in full black in China. Very accurate review.
Thank you. What's the feature you like the most?
@@MarekDrivesENG the a more joyful drivability oriented with a premium feeling, that what is lacking here on the china market with the local products.
@@MarekDrivesENG what I don't like from the beginning is the front light, it looks very dull like something from a bmw, actually they're the same with the XF..
Good review including diving into history and sport
Much appreciated!
Man I would have loved to see your SVR review.
J'aime énormément cette voiture 🚗
We just got one of these and my first impression driving it was rather high road noise in the cabin. Interesting that there are noise cancelling features, need to check on our vehicle if that is automatic or can be turned on/off.
It's a smart SUV for sure .... few will buy these things for efficiency, I suppose. Great review, as usual. Personally, I'd have the Beemer.
Very accurate review, got my P400 3 month ago (2000km on clock)
Honestly, bit dissapointed.
It's really jerky in traffics, gearbox often does unnessesary downshifts no matter of modes you choose - really ennoying.
Acceleration pedal must be used really gentle, otherwise it goes wild and accelerates faster than you desire... another jerkyness.
Infotainment also lags, lazy to response in general.
Android auto often loses contact and has to be switched off and on to regain accsess. (Has not checked apple carplay yet)
Meridian sound system - meh :( not giving premium feelings you expect from such expensive car.
Steering wheel controls - ennoying ! beautifull but also with lag - sometimes you have to push same button 2 times, because very often first command is missed for some unknown reasons. Happens pretty often.
And last ennoying thing is fuel consuption.
Pros : Cool design,premium interior feel, powerfull engine. Really great sound isollation. And of course cornering - car goes through corners like a sports car which worth mentioning.
You still feel same? Would you recommend and how is fuel consumption?
Still feel the same? Would you not recommend? How is fuel usage?
@@timt8236 Honestly slightly i got used to it and it doesnot bother me as much as from begining. Fuel consumption is around 14-15 litres in city. Infotainment still suck, lags, android auto needs to be recconected prety often. And streering wheel button controlls still drive me crazy. Voice comands are also terrible. Sometimes works sometimes just deaf. Such premium car should not have those kind of bugs. But driving experice really improved. Its either me - got used to it, or i learned how to drive it gentle and comfortable, or car learned how to behave correctly after 7k miles.
Land Rover used to be friends with Ford... I hope they are not so touchy 🤭Great test! 🤗❤
Lol, in Poland they never were. Different importers :-)
@@MarekDrivesENG fingers crossed
Anyone else spotted that the rear seat backrest angle switch is from a 1993 Ford Mondeo :)?
No need to improve on perfection :)
Another 1st class review. I like the jaguar F Pace but I think the E Pace looks more stylish being that little bit smaller but unfortunately much heavier.
what ? the e pace is heavier? surprised !
My parents got one 3 years ago for 36k euro, which seemed fare at the time. 65k? No, thank you.
I completely agree with your conclusion. Great looking car but it's bloody expensive. Also, I feel like you needed to say Ford Vignale a third time... everything needs to come in threes.
When you see the hot babe, always remember that she's gunna cost you.... and I mean cost you a lot. Is it really worth it?
The F-Pace is basically a Range Rover Velar in different clothes. Neither model sell particularly well but the Velar, to me, is by far the most attractive proposition. Is either model worth the money? Certainly not, even if you ignore the horrendous running costs and statistically poor reliability.
Surprisingly mild review for such a car😅
It's a nice piece of kit. Just not for the price.
👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍
The rear seat control looks like it’s lifted straight out of a 1990 Ford Scorpio Ghia.
Someone pointed out it's from a Mondeo, but I see it goes farther back :)
WHY JAGUAR F PACAE DON'T HAVE AİR SUSPENSİON ? ? ?
Because it's expensive enough as it is?
Air suspensions are not reliable unless you live in a warm climate
Every recall done in any make has always been a water condensation problem in the system
@@michealgampieris325 interesting. I have a friend living in Dubai, and he complains about air suspension cushions deteriorating because of high temperature :)
He’s on bmw’s payroll
The Question is will it run 6 months without breaking :=)
I'm in a community of around 500 f-pace owners , from 2016 to 2023 models, the only issues we see are the cooling liquid leakage, other than that all run flawlessly.
The answer is "No".
After 2 months and 4,500 kms mine is in the garage. Now since 3 weeks, there is a problem with the electronics of the gearbox, but they can't find what it is !
I've had two, a 3.0D for about 18 months and the SVR for about 2.5 years. The only issue I've had is the bonnet microswitch on the SVR which was replace under warranty. Things do go wrong with them, the same things that go wrong on most brands, but it seems when it happens to a JLR product it's because it's a JLR product.
I don't understand the awd diagonal approach test. Any rwd car will beat it, no awd is needed there.
Not really, because only one wheel would have traction.
@@MarekDrivesENG Yeah, that's enough. Most cars have abs-related systems that would apply the brakes on the wheel with no traction, so the other one will push the car. If it is a premium car with an LSD then its even easier. You can test it yourself some time.
I can't think of a RWD crossover I could test it on, and my MX-5 is likely to bottom out here.
@@MarekDrivesENG Speaking of Mazda, the cx-60 has rwd model that is popular and seen reviews of it, so Mazda is not shy of giving the rwd model to reviewers. Another example would be iX3, or something from VAG on the MEB platform.