Americans React to 1900's Chinese History: Communists, Nationalists, and China's Revolutions
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- Опубликовано: 16 сен 2024
- Americans React to Early 1900's Chinese History: Communists, Nationalists, and China's Revolutions! In this video, we are back with another china reaction and this time we are checking out a Chinese history video from John Greens Crash Course about the Chinese Revolutions in the early 1900's
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In the US, you can choose a party but not its policy. In China, people cannot select a party but can change their policies. Public shaming of the government is not allowed (yeah, you may say you have freedom of speech, but really? Where is Julian Assange? Why?), but they can call their hotline to demand the local officials solve problems. Which system works better? China is poor; GDP per capita is 1/6 of America's. But have you seen any homeless people in China?
Dr Sun was born in a village near Guangzhou and he started the revolution in Guangzhou and succeeded after failing dozens of times.
Neutral？Lol. A brainwashed person cannot be neutral cuz he does not know what is real, what is fake, what is neutral.
Many historians may tell you that a significant number of people died during the three-year famine, but they often fail to explain why Mao is still admired by many Chinese. Some may attribute it to brainwashing, but if the West truly sees China as a competitor or an enemy, they cannot rely on such a simplistic answer without fully considering the question: why is Mao still admired by the majority of Chinese? To address this, let me pose another question: why do you think the people of Palestine support Hamas? Why don't the Palestinians give up Hamas and pursue peace? The answer might be rooted in a perspective of "you fight or you die."
not really that "neutral" tone really, a lot of whitewashing by quick grossing over details of events. For example the Taiping Rebellion with lasted 14 yrs was started by a Chinese man that believed he is the brother of Jesus and successfully started a Christian based cult and subsequently created a separatist kingdom of 30 million people within China. The US was the only western power that was the only one that was highly supportive of the rebellion and the topic even made it to Congress a few time, however it was 1860 the US had its own Civil War to deal with.
The Japanese invasion of Manchuria and rest of China and Asia was mainly supported by US trade of fuel, steel and other raw materials to Japan, which didn't stop till after 1938 (after Nanking Massacre) and not into real executed policy till 1940. Most of the gains that Japanese made during the first decade of their conquest of China and Korea was actual cyphoned to the US instead.
This history did not include the beginning where the west and Japan destroyed China first,
as a result China started to decay badly like civil war, starvation ... etc
他们两个美国人是肯定会忽略这段的，不意外
*Hi Guys, I am a Chirstian and I am not a member of Communist Party. Many years ago, I did not like the Communist Party. But now, from what I see and observe, I do believe the following sologan in China. "Without Communist Party, there is no new China today". It means only the Communist Party can build the China as strong as now. Am I correct ? ( I am a Chinese living in Germany)*
对的，中国是真正的宗教自由，除了对共产党员很严格，生活周边很多老太太信仰基督，会经常去教堂参加活动，有幸去观摩过一次，还蛮震撼的。
当然
非要说，一定是校长在内战中打赢，对普通中国人更好。可是他打不赢。
@@yunzheMa-j1d校长不行，412以后国民党就烂透了，得孙中山多活一些时间让国民党左派能掌握军权
@@yunzheMa-j1d 对普通中国人更好为啥打不赢？
Fun fact :Communist party in China was formed, ironically due to the betrayal from the western powers in Versaille treaty that China would got back its territory in Shandong from Germany after it promised to send tens of thousands of workers to the Allies to build trenches or worked in factories. But the Allied powers betrayed them and gave the Chinese territory to the Japanese. That infuriated the Chinese which resulted in May 4 movement. CPC was one of the many political parties that arose due to the aftermath of this movement.
I think my problem with the Crash Course series is mainly because it's viewed from the Western perspective and with a bias intent. One example is regarding their video on the Opium Wars; the narrator said that China's gov't liked the opium because of the money they get until they realized that it's bad for the people, then they burned them all. However, the true story is :China already said "no" to the British for using opium as trade for teas, from the very beginning, because they knew about its effect. So Crash Course hid the fact that the British actually had to smuggle the opium into China via India (which was forced-labor to grow opium for the Brits). When China's government found out about it, it's too late and their action to immediately burn the shipments caused the Brits to attack. China lost Hong Kong to the Brits in one of these wars. It's so unfair but that's history. Even my friends in the states don't know about the true history. There's a lot of revisionist version of the history actually taught in the schools, to hide the atrocities of the British empire back then. I know they like to make China seems as bad as possible because they are afraid of people embracing the Socialist ideologies. Even the author of The Black Book of Communism admitted to exaggerating all the atrocities in the communist world and the make them worst than Hitler's because Germany is part of the western world.
It's really a challenge because some Chinese are aggressive and they will say something bad to you...I think it's not strange because what you, even the world learn about China are not from a objective perception. They also watch these videos made by a non-Chinese, there are many bias. So they will shock when they come to China, just like how you react to China when you firstly stand on this land. We love our country China not only because it has brought us a safe and stable society(which means no war, no drug, no gun violence), but it's also becoming better, stronger. It's not what western media says that we are brain-wash.
In addition I want to say that China now is a huge mix of communism and capitalism. Chinese also has the speech freedom (which must obey the law). If you get interest, there is more waiting for you to dig out.
Think more about what you experienced in China you will find the answer.
Time is over. Who cares what they really think? It's not important Nowadays. What really important is how we think about ourselves.
I can imagine that you will get a lot of comment from Chinese audience. Because the video made by John Greens has some bias...you should know what's the thought from Chinese but not from American. That makes you view Chinese history and government more objectively.
I am not here to correct you because I am not a professor in history. But I suggest that you should have another video reacting to Chinese history illustration from a Chinese people, and learn about how Chinese people think of Chinese communist and capitalist.
你说得太对了！我听不懂那个人介绍中国是怎么样的！
A lot of inaccuracies actually..
John Green like reading story, fast and sharp, I think already read many times. Does he investigate the narrative is absolutely truth?
There is no country's history can be illustrated within 15 minutes, even for your own country, right?. Any historical event is result of many element. For example, John Green talked about the dead of starvation but he conclude that it was due to communist. Is that ridiculous? If Chinese communist want people die for starvation, why China keep the most population in past 50 yrs? John Green didn't mention the impact of the war, the impact of the climate that year. There is too much he didn't mention. @@lkchoh1454
If you really get interested in Chinese history, you should read more material wrote by Chinese historical professor after you read foreign illustration about Chinese history. Never judge by one side.@@lkchoh1454
now you need a chinese history from a chinese point of view
any videos on RUclips?
It's nice to see someone who get interest, but it's really hard to find.@@oxoelfoxo
The ban on Google operating in China is due to social media companies such as Google not complying with Chinese laws. China has experienced serious terrorist attacks before, and these companies were operating normally in China. After the terrorist attacks, the Chinese government discovered that terrorists were communicating with each other through Facebook. The Chinese government demanded that these foreign media companies cooperate with the investigation and provide appropriate information, but they were refused by these companies. Therefore, they must withdraw from China.
A company that cannot comply with local laws, a company that threatens the lives of local people, has no reason to let them continue to profit.
The historical part of this short film about Chairman Mao is full of errors and Western biases and false information. Mao is not a dictator or a fool, he is a genius that is rare in the world for a hundred years. He is visionary and deeply loves this country and people.
Imagine China in 1949, where many places had not yet ended their wars, with bandits and crimes everywhere. Traditional Chinese clan forces controlled various places, and China had no industry at that time, only traditional agriculture and handicrafts. When the Kuomintang fled, they took away all their wealth, and everything about the Communist Party started from scratch. In this situation, Chairman Mao dared to confront the nuclear armed Soviet Union and the United States, allowing the Chinese people to truly become independent of the world.
How many leaders of countries have been able to achieve this in the past century?
禁止谷歌在中国经营是因为谷歌等社交媒体公司不遵守中国的法律，中国曾经发生了严重恐怖袭击事件，在恐怖事件发生之前，这些公司都在中国正常经营，恐怖袭击发生后，中国政府发现恐怖分子是通过脸书互相联络的，中国政府要求这些外国媒体公司必须配合调查，并适当交出信息，遭到这些企业的拒绝，所以他们必须退出中国。
一个不能遵守当地法律的公司，一个威胁当地人生命的公司，没有理由让他们继续获利。
这部短片中关于毛主席的历史部分错误百出，充满了西方人的偏见和假讯息，毛并不是独裁者，也不愚蠢，他是这世界上百年难遇的天才，富有远见，深爱着这个国家和人民。
试想1949年的中国，很多地方还没有结束战争，到处都有土匪和犯罪，中国传统的宗族势力控制着各地方，中国当时没有工业，只有传统农业和手工业，国民党逃跑时带走了所有财富，共产党的一切都从零开始。在这种情况下毛主席敢于对抗有核武器的苏联和美国，让中国人民真正的独立于世界。
百年以来有几个国家的领导人能做到？
Now, start to like your vlog more, you are dig the truth of China. I give you suggestion to visit Nianjing China anti Japen war museum . you will get much more knowledge about why the most of Chinese do not like or hate Japan.
The main reason is not the massacre, it's that they refuse to acknowledge the massacres and the other attrocities commited. If the Japanese government sincerely apologise instead of denying and glorifying the war criminals, this would not have been such a big issue.
Unfortunately China's history is very deep, very very deep, with its enormous population and long time span and diversity. Only after you spend years digging on a specific topic, you would start to touch the spirit of this country, but it is worth the time. Even if you are born and raised in the country, you don't necessarily know or understand the history and the culture.
I like the new term "Chinaism" neither socialism nor capitalism 👍
"Socialism with Chinese characteristics". The term "Civilization State" was coined in the 1990s to describe China, and also used to described other countries such as the US. Dynasties change, emperors change, heads of state change, but how the government is run has not changed significantly. Xi Jinping is not a dictator. The Coummist Party is the dictator, like the historic emperors. Xi is chosen by the party based on merit, like how the government officials are chosen historically by imperial exams. Emperors know that the dynasty will fall if there are social unrests. So, they rule according to the will of the people. In China, the trust is government in the last several years was between 82 to 91%, first among the surveyed 26 countries. That's true democracy.
It's Socialism with Chinese Characteristics.
neither nor？ or mixed？
Westerners usually look at the period from the last 100 to 200 hundred years which was one of China's worst period of division, downfall, humiliation. It also coincide with the western powers '(Ang Sax) rise to power. That is why US, its cousins and the west tend to look at China as inferior, but in fact, China had gone through several phases of ups and downs aka golden age to downfall in its 3000 yrs of written history.
A lot of inaccurate information and misunderstanding there😂
regurgitation of outright lies too
@Trifategeo Could you please watch a video on China’s modern history produced by Chinese people? As a comparison with this video, it should be very interesting and more objective 😁
History of ancient China between the spring and autumn period and the Han dynasty is really interesting
There is an old saying in China "兼听则明偏信则暗," it means 'To listen to both sides, one will be enlightened, but if heeding only one side, one will be benighted'
Taiwan is a historical legacy issue. To be honest, the new generation of Chinese young people are not so strong to want to unify Taiwan. Today's Chinese young people have no feelings for Taiwan, and Taiwan is very weak, Taiwan government corruption is serious, they have a lot of internal problems, reunification is actually more harm than good for us, China is now a stable and harmonious society, reunification of Taiwan will threaten our national security and social stability and bring huge governance problems. But a generation has a generation of responsibility, countless martyrs sacrifice in exchange for today's new China, These martyrs before the death of the biggest regret is not unified Taiwan, our generation of Chinese people is responsible for the completion of the martyrs regret, if not so many heroic sacrifice of the revolutionary martyrs will not have the happy life of the Chinese people now, so the reunification of Taiwan for us is only an obligation.
Can't agree with your opinion of "only an obligation". Check the history of China and you'll find that pursuit of unification is one of the key characteristics deepen into Chinese people's mind. And it's thought humiliating for the authority permanently that territory loss takes place under their governance, because the incident will be record into files and reviewed by posterity. Last but not the least, Taiwan is always a part of China since ancient ages. As the saying goes that water poured on the ground cannot be recovered, there will be far-reaching impacts(usually bad ones) once territory is splited off. Just take a look at Kosovo War, and conflicts and chaos perpetuated until today.
@@brucewu448 你说的这些我同意啊 这不就相当于是一种“义务”吗 你说的就是每个人从小到大都铭记于心的啊 除却这些传统的 咱客观的说 现在大陆年轻人对台湾有感情吗或者说台湾年轻人对大陆有感情吗 现在两岸都仇恨成什么样了 这种情况下统一台湾不就是一个“义务”吗
@@lauren.3089怪我的理解有些偏差，我觉得你是在强调“继承先辈遗志”这种义务，所以我表述的都是追求统一的自发性因素😅感情这个东西很难说清楚，这几年观察下来，两岸互相讨厌的情绪确实比较重。但是我自己的感觉是，大陆对于台湾的认同感（民族、文化上）还是很强的。我觉得只要文化风俗上共通，3、4代人之后，感情又会回来的
You can’t speak for anyone but yourself
@@Alex-wx4jl 可能你是年纪比较大的人吧，我从来没代表年纪大的人。
The difference in Mao cultural revolution and Nazi fascism is different. Hitler want to build a pure German race and eliminated the Jews and other minorities and also conquer Europe. Mao created cultural revolution as he wanted to divert his attention from his disastrous economic policy by moving the mass of his supporters to a revolutionary cause. With a revolutionary goal in mind, all the massive un employment and domestic crisis can be diverted to this madness. It is a way to get rid of anti Mao faction which has been forming up after the disaster from the Great Leap Forward.
China is not capitalism, China is socialism with market economy. Got it!
Often, revoluntaries do not make the best governors. IMO Zhou Enlai was a better statesman.
I really think it's a good idea for America young people to know more about China. Right now there's a program offered from China to invite American young people to visit China. 5 years, 50,000 students from high school to college will visit China. Lincoln high school from Washington just went....
Just in case you didn't notice China hasn't been a communist country since 1979, China today has nothing to do with communism whatsoever, it's a mixture of capitalism and confucianism pretty much like all other dynasties in Chinese history, Communist China an accident, a product of that certain time period if you will.
Current China political system is national capitalism
😂什么制度不重要！重要的是中国基层人民普遍还不错！中国有十四亿人！五十六个民族！统称中华民族！中国制度更适合普通百姓！
Fun fact: The more sensational a statistic is, the less people doubt its veracity
Modern History, especially politics involved, is not a good topic for Chinese subscribers. It's hard to criticize nationalism and socialism of a country with a heavy hundred-year history of humiliation. You will find that, despite having caused casualty, CCP still enjoys EXTREMELY high prestige among the people. Anyway, your comment is rational enough, while the video you choose is kinda partial.
国民党统治中国的时候，依旧没有民选政府也没有司法，地方军事势力割据，是个糟糕的年代。共产党承诺给与农民土地，承认工人农民的地位，所以才能赢得内战。从1949年以后，没有实现民主，是一群人的密室政治。毛跟当时的共产党大部分人有远大的理想但是他们不懂得怎么治理国家，有很多错误的政策。文革，大跃进是中共在教科书上都承认的发生的错误的事情。文革的出发点是因为毛泽东意识到了官僚（共产党内部是有矛盾的）跟资本主义在中国又要出现了，他想阻止这种事情，并不是只单单的毛想巩固自己的权力跟地位。即使今天在美国应该也有工人被老板剥削的情况，资本家，政客不在乎普通民众感受的情况。所以他的思想是一种特别左的思想，只是在当代还不支持这样的一种想法的实践。所以视频制作者对毛的看法评价是单一的。还有共产党政府想独立自主的处理自己的事情，所以他们拒绝了苏联在中国境内建基地，不想苏联人对中国的事务有过多的干涉，导致了两个国家的对立，我并不觉得这是坏的。政治是比较复杂的一个东西，这种极简的视频显然很容易误导别人，希望你们能有深入的了解
That history video is not the full & complete picture, so there's a lot of missing context. There are better videos out there like Asianometry, Carl Zha, etc. When perceiving China from a lens of a Westerner, the story telling is very skewed. Definitely cannot tell 100 years of history in a few minutes.
This is unsurprisingly wrong.
For example, the classic likes "watching RUclips is illegal."
Or the famine.
Good old lies everyone thinks it's true.
One thing ironic and probably hypocritical is, Americans loving America is patriotic, Non Americans loving their own countries is nationalistic. O....kay......
Oh boy, we are getting deep here
Leave ideology alone. Mao reunited China in 20 years militarily. That achievement alone, you can’t find any match in human history.
I appreciate you young people's interest in this peice of history of the new China. Yes, China calls it Socialism with Chinese Characteristics. It was very well defined and documented in the state documents as to what it is. Socialism is in essense about common wealth for all people as President Xi calls it. The CCP never from day one forgets about this principle. All the policitical storms in the past since 1949 were all about the argument about the swing between extreme communism and extreme capitalism, the latter of which was for a long time considered by them as the root evil. They believe the root cause of all the suffering of Chinese people in the previous 1-2 hundred years, was a result of capitalists exploiting the working class. That explains why even today they crack down on any Chinese enterprises who try to follow that path to exploit, a typical example of which is to promote the busienss of borrowing to consume. You also see why basic needs such as transportation is so highly subsidized and President Xi has always been saying housing is for accommodation, not for speculation. Deng in 1970s, said once, somewhere aong these lines, our failure was in the early days was that we could not just keep talking about the ideology of common wealth when we have no wealth (poor), we need to bring in capitalism to create wealth first, then we can talk about common wealth.
It's my first time watching John Green's video. As a Chinese from mainland China, I can't say John Green doesn't have bias. But the content he made was so hilarious and informative :DD By the way, I really like you guys' reaction on this. Thanks~
Now that you've been to China, can you tell us about the "Social Credit System"? Do people really have it, and will you literally be punished for spitting in public or jaywalking?
This is ridiculous isn't it? In fact, China does not have this so-called credit point system.
@@8your sure, but I'm just curious if these two hosts realize these lies the media fed us.
@@hannibalyin8853 😃😃😃
The last sentence is even more sarcastic, RUclips is blocked in China which means most Chinese can’t see that video and yours😂
当狗一直咬你的时候，你总不能一直跟狗咬吧。建起栅栏也是一个不错的选择。
i'd call John Green a YA author, not a romance author :-)
不要触碰政治，良心建议
为什么不能，这里又不是bilibili
@@CheeseOunce她只是建议不要碰政治 又不是说油管不能提政治 而且Bilibili也能提啊 只要不是故意扭曲事实煽动对立就行
@@CheeseOunce 你的偏见可见一斑，bilibili上没有触碰政治的么？还是你自己装瞎找不到，要不去微博玩玩？
时代应该变了，年轻人应该懂得政治，看看这世界多乱，这样去其他国家才不会踩地雷
@@CheeseOunce 为什么令唐不挂出来给大家闻闻香？
这就是所谓的中立客观啊？通过戏谑的方式选择性的肤浅的讲述一些东西，就这，倒是挺好意思标榜自己中立，呵呵。
中国现行的制度就是国家资本主义，一种由国家控制的半国有化、半私营资本的混合体，并由国有资本主导整个社会的经济活动；虽然中国政府不承认，但并不能改变现实就是如此；未来中国社会的进程将会越来越偏向于国有资本控制社会经济活动，并逐步缩小私营资本在社会中的地位，直到私营资本彻底退出经济活动；只有真正实现了全部生产资料国有化，才会真正进入到社会主义社会；
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who do you think you are?
Nobody cares😂
Where is western invade China history, where is unit 731 history, where is War to Resist US Aggression and Aid Korea history, where is War to Resist US Aggression and Aid Vietnam history…honestly i didn't realize how great CCP is until after i traveled around the world and studied abroad, the comparison of result showed me how much CCP did for this country and for people in last 50/60 years.If you really wanna know Chinese history, you need watch some video that Chinese version which western wouldn't show you.