Hi Phil. I'm looking for some speaker advice. I do a radio show on local radio station and I'm looking for some decent speakers . The one I have are basically PC speakers , which although sound ok are a little muffled. I am looking for some suggestion on NOT mega expensive speakers/monitors. My little studio is in the corner of my lounge so they don't need to be mega loud just crisp and clear. Any help or suggestion will be greatly appreciated. Stu
They couldn't have audio input on the USB-C without a DAC. They could have put a cheap one in, but that still would have increased cost. There's no audio interface that outputs analog audio over USB-C, it's not even possible.
A headphone jack input would also have been nice but understandably that's not really viable anymore with now two independent monitor speakers. All things considered, these are a pro step up from the previous models, being dual amped now and having calibration tools included. I would still consider them niche speakers though, only for people where space and mobility is an absolute priority. Because that same money can get you good monitors with 8" woofers from the likes of Adam, Yamaha, Kali, KRK, Mackie and Tannoy that give you far superior bass output.
the specific characteristics of an individual mic, even within the same model, will vary. For a measurement mic, every subtle variation matters, especially since we're deriving a corrective eq curve from it. Sonarworks addresses this by measuring the frequency response of every single mic they send out, and they include a serial code that identifies the measurement results as a 'calibration profile'. When the user is setting up sonar works room eq, the software asks for this code, the matching calibration profile from sonarworks is loaded, and the corrective eq curve is calculated based on the measurement of both the speaker and the microphone. I was wondering If ARC also takes into account variance between mics. If there are no identifiers included with the mic, they're probably using an average curve for the measurement mic model they provide. It's always going to be a little less precise. Practically speaking the result may still be usable, but it just means different people having more variable results
Interesting, althoug a bit more of a listing of the specs and selling points than listening review. I'm interested in some more in depth comparison to the previous gen as you have them. (I have them too). For instance one of the biggest limitations of these, otherwise great monitors btw, although I had some problems with the (glued on?) baffles producing unwanted resonances in the grilles: the chuffing noise from the forward port at around 50 Hz, which is very audible, even at medium volumes and kinda comes with the horn design I guess to make them go as low as they can for their size. (A genelec 8010 runs out of breath at around 70Hz for comparison) This makes these (well their version 1) monitors' use very limited or even unusable for electronic music or in general if you're working in that frequency range. It seems the same folded horn design and casing. Also the dsp seems to be tuned at cutoff 50Hz again. Any testing on that front?
You're gonna have to look elsewhere for close listening analysis like this I'm afraid, we've switched them out for the old ones in our set-up but I won't have a deep listening opinion until I''ve run them for several weeks
Great video, would you recommend these for desktop gaming usage? I'm looking for the small forum factor and this seems like it would produce good sound. Also, do you need to use two usb ports on your computer to connect the two speakers together? It seems very confusing.
We are in Gibraltar. No idea what they cost in England with it being outside of the US/EU (we usually quote dollars and euros nowadays). Brexit seems to have pushed all prices up for you though!
It’s improved here. But still being a very small speaker with lots of LF extension, the bass reflex can be a bit noisy at high levels. This however will not create any issue or limitation when working on audio.
is the microphone calibrated? each pieve of equipment will have its own characteristic. Sonarworks includes a calibration profile with the measurement mics in their bundle.
@@digitaldjtips the specific characteristics of an individual mic, even within the same model, will vary. For a measurement mic, every subtle variation matters, especially since we're deriving a corrective eq curve from it. Sonarworks addresses this by measuring the frequency response of every single mic they send out, and they include a serial code that identifies the measurement results as a 'calibration profile'. When the user is setting up sonar works room eq, the software asks for this code, the matching calibration profile from sonarworks is loaded, and the corrective eq curve is calculated based on the measurement of both the speaker and the microphone. I was wondering If ARC also takes into account variance between mics. If there are no identifiers included with the mic, they're probably using an average curve for the measurement mic model they provide. It's always going to be a little less precise. Practically speaking the result may still be usable, but it just means different people having more variable results
@@digitaldjtips the specific characteristics of an individual mic, even within the same model, will vary. For a measurement mic, every subtle variation matters, especially since we're deriving a corrective eq curve from it. Sonarworks addresses this by measuring the frequency response of every single mic before they send them out, and they include a serial code that identifies the measurement results as a 'calibration profile'. When the user is setting up sonar works room eq, the software asks for this code, the matching calibration profile from sonarworks is loaded, and the corrective eq curve is calculated based on the measurement of both the speaker and the microphone. I was wondering If ARC also takes into account variance between mics. If there are no identifiers included with the mic, they're probably using an average curve for the measurement mic model they provide. It's always going to be a little less precise. Practically speaking the result may still be usable, but it just means different people having more variable results
no bluetooth, the originals have bluetooth.. that's kind of sucks
these are individually powered so I guess that means it's harder to have linked BT.
Do you need 2 for a stage piano for home use only, or is one enough. Thanks
Hi Phil.
I'm looking for some speaker advice.
I do a radio show on local radio station and I'm looking for some decent speakers .
The one I have are basically PC speakers , which although sound ok are a little muffled.
I am looking for some suggestion on NOT mega expensive speakers/monitors.
My little studio is in the corner of my lounge so they don't need to be mega loud just crisp and clear.
Any help or suggestion will be greatly appreciated.
Stu
They couldn't have audio input on the USB-C without a DAC. They could have put a cheap one in, but that still would have increased cost. There's no audio interface that outputs analog audio over USB-C, it's not even possible.
A headphone jack input would also have been nice but understandably that's not really viable anymore with now two independent monitor speakers. All things considered, these are a pro step up from the previous models, being dual amped now and having calibration tools included. I would still consider them niche speakers though, only for people where space and mobility is an absolute priority. Because that same money can get you good monitors with 8" woofers from the likes of Adam, Yamaha, Kali, KRK, Mackie and Tannoy that give you far superior bass output.
Agree 100%
I appreciate the review. They are listed here in the US, with the calibration mic, for about $560
Lucky you!
Sir you didn't explain the usb c plug on the back.
We did - it is for plugging in to a laptop to use the calibration software (unfortunately, it is not an audio interface).
I own the first version and love them. Going to have to check this out!!!!
They're definitely a step up... no Bluetooth though
How is the hissing and background noise? I can't buy something like that that will have background noise and I know that iLoud has this.
Never had a problem with the old ones and cannot hear any problems on the new ones either
@@digitaldjtips Thank you. Are you using 220V?
first
Thanks for mentioning Scotty from Star Trek! I love Star Trek references.
You bet!
Stand by?
the specific characteristics of an individual mic, even within the same model, will vary. For a measurement mic, every subtle variation matters, especially since we're deriving a corrective eq curve from it. Sonarworks addresses this by measuring the frequency response of every single mic they send out, and they include a serial code that identifies the measurement results as a 'calibration profile'. When the user is setting up sonar works room eq, the software asks for this code, the matching calibration profile from sonarworks is loaded, and the corrective eq curve is calculated based on the measurement of both the speaker and the microphone.
I was wondering If ARC also takes into account variance between mics. If there are no identifiers included with the mic, they're probably using an average curve for the measurement mic model they provide. It's always going to be a little less precise. Practically speaking the result may still be usable, but it just means different people having more variable results
I doubt that. To my ears, for a speaker this size and price, I doubt I could ever tell the difference.
Second
Interesting, althoug a bit more of a listing of the specs and selling points than listening review. I'm interested in some more in depth comparison to the previous gen as you have them. (I have them too). For instance one of the biggest limitations of these, otherwise great monitors btw, although I had some problems with the (glued on?) baffles producing unwanted resonances in the grilles: the chuffing noise from the forward port at around 50 Hz, which is very audible, even at medium volumes and kinda comes with the horn design I guess to make them go as low as they can for their size. (A genelec 8010 runs out of breath at around 70Hz for comparison) This makes these (well their version 1) monitors' use very limited or even unusable for electronic music or in general if you're working in that frequency range. It seems the same folded horn design and casing. Also the dsp seems to be tuned at cutoff 50Hz again. Any testing on that front?
You're gonna have to look elsewhere for close listening analysis like this I'm afraid, we've switched them out for the old ones in our set-up but I won't have a deep listening opinion until I''ve run them for several weeks
Can the software and mic that comes with these speakers be used with different type monitors...??
Only other monitors within their range
Am I wrong but I thought DSP’s were a no no in speakers for DJing
Not necessarily, just latency-adding ones.
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what are the differences between this and the 1st gen?
These are individually powered, they have the calibration.
Great video, would you recommend these for desktop gaming usage? I'm looking for the small forum factor and this seems like it would produce good sound. Also, do you need to use two usb ports on your computer to connect the two speakers together? It seems very confusing.
As long as you're happy to feed analogue audio into them, yes. And yes, you'd need two spare USB sockets on your computer to plug these in.
@@digitaldjtips ... so these speakers can play music from USB port? (I dont need XLR/RCA source, to play music from PC?)
Sounds English, studio I assume is in the states as using dollars $ 🤔.... GBP £ would be nice. 🤨
We are in Gibraltar. No idea what they cost in England with it being outside of the US/EU (we usually quote dollars and euros nowadays). Brexit seems to have pushed all prices up for you though!
@@digitaldjtips ahh. indeed. greatful for the update reply. understand 👍
These have delay or sufficient for djing?
What channel is this?
Perfect for DJing, zero latency
How about port noise on this?In OG version it's very annoying.
so a couple of people have said, we never noticed it TBH
It’s improved here. But still being a very small speaker with lots of LF extension, the bass reflex can be a bit noisy at high levels. This however will not create any issue or limitation when working on audio.
is the microphone calibrated? each pieve of equipment will have its own characteristic. Sonarworks includes a calibration profile with the measurement mics in their bundle.
Not really sure what you're asking, it is a standard measurement mic and the software does a similar thing to Sonarworks' software.
@@digitaldjtips the specific characteristics of an individual mic, even within the same model, will vary. For a measurement mic, every subtle variation matters, especially since we're deriving a corrective eq curve from it. Sonarworks addresses this by measuring the frequency response of every single mic they send out, and they include a serial code that identifies the measurement results as a 'calibration profile'. When the user is setting up sonar works room eq, the software asks for this code, the matching calibration profile from sonarworks is loaded, and the corrective eq curve is calculated based on the measurement of both the speaker and the microphone.
I was wondering If ARC also takes into account variance between mics. If there are no identifiers included with the mic, they're probably using an average curve for the measurement mic model they provide. It's always going to be a little less precise. Practically speaking the result may still be usable, but it just means different people having more variable results
@@digitaldjtips the specific characteristics of an individual mic, even within the same model, will vary. For a measurement mic, every subtle variation matters, especially since we're deriving a corrective eq curve from it. Sonarworks addresses this by measuring the frequency response of every single mic before they send them out, and they include a serial code that identifies the measurement results as a 'calibration profile'. When the user is setting up sonar works room eq, the software asks for this code, the matching calibration profile from sonarworks is loaded, and the corrective eq curve is calculated based on the measurement of both the speaker and the microphone.
I was wondering If ARC also takes into account variance between mics. If there are no identifiers included with the mic, they're probably using an average curve for the measurement mic model they provide. It's always going to be a little less precise. Practically speaking the result may still be usable, but it just means different people having more variable results