How Dates are Grown on a Permaculture No-Till Date Farm in the Desert

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  • Опубликовано: 26 авг 2024
  • John from www.growingyour... goes on a field trip to Flying Disc Ranch, a Date farm who grows dates using no-till, permaculture, biodynamic and organic growing practices. You will see from pit to date on how this palm tree grows and produces delicious fruit.
    In this episode, you will learn how date palm trees are grown, and all the stages of date palm growth and some of the farming practices that must be done to ensure high-quality date fruit are being grown.
    First, John will compare standard agriculture practices that ruin the fertility of the soil, and share with you a better way: a no-till permaculture food forest in the middle of the desert that is growing a wide variety of tree crops as well as other crops.
    You will see the different stages of date palm tree growth and learn how long it takes a date palm to produce edible fruit.
    You will learn why bagging dates to protect them from the insects, pets and the weather is really important.
    You will discover some of the many practices that must be done on a regular basis to ensure your date palms get large and delicious fruit.
    You will learn why this farm does not use synthetic, chemical fertilizers and what they use instead to add nutrients and build their soil so their trees can produce some of the highest quality dates.
    You will discover how soil-conserving practices, such as no-till farming, permaculture food forest, keeping the ground covered and adding compost really help this food forest style farm thrive in the middle of 120-degree weather.
    Finally, John will interview the farmer, Robert Lower about this date farm he started in 1979. He will ask him the following questions:
    0:28:56 Start of interview with Robert Lawer
    0:29:25 What motivated you to start growing dates?
    0:30:25 Why don't you fumigate your dates like conventional date growers?
    0:32:04 What is the main pesticide that conventional dates are fumigated with?
    0:32:39 Why don't you use chemical/synthetic fertilizers on your farm?
    0:38:20 What do most date farms do with their palm fronds?
    0:38:45 Why do you do the no-till method of farming?
    0:41:25 What have you found by using rock dust on your farm?
    0:48:03 Why did you decided to interplant citrus/figs/pomegranates under your dates?
    0:50:37 What are the three things you would do differently on your farm based on what you have learned over 40 years?
    0:57:37 You Don't freeze your dates on the farm. Why is it important not to freeze your dates?
    1:03:34 What are some of your favorite old-fashion remedies for pest on the garden or farm?
    1:04:50 Any final comments or thoughts you would like to share with my viewers today?
    1:08:12 What is the best way to learn about your local and organic farmers?
    1:10:10 How can someone get ahold of the farm? What is your website?
    1:12:00 What is the best month to order dates?
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Комментарии • 142

  • @unconventionalme8048
    @unconventionalme8048 7 лет назад +34

    I think a lot of your viewers have grown to enjoy your "talking too much" keep being yourself bud... You really are genuine and a great value to so many folks!

  • @growingyourgreens
    @growingyourgreens  7 лет назад +16

    Learn more about Flying Disc Ranch at www.flyingdiscranch.com/
    25% off for GYG viewers when you buy 12+ pounds
    Call Christina at Flying disc at 760-562-1666 to get this deal.

  • @williamvanscottnelson2605
    @williamvanscottnelson2605 2 года назад +1

    Hey! Flying Disc Ranch is in my neighborhood! I live in Imperial County, Slab City, just south of ya'll. I'm in the beginning stages of developing a permaculture here, focusing on moringa and incorporating citrus, fish, dates, desert peach, perennials and annuals. Anything that will grow, survive and produce with minimal water and excessive heat. We might hit freezing a few nights a year, but the wind! Lordy, that wind! I have experience growing in Illinois, but the rules are much different here in the desert. Thank you John! You have helped me a lot over the last two years in learning and preparing.
    Imperial County is supposedly the most impoverished country in the United States and Slab City is made up of some of the most impoverished people. My goal is to first grow vegetables to feed my egg laying hens and one rooster, feed my camp mates here in Flamingo Camp and then offer food to all Slab City restaurants and visitors, combat malnutrition and help people prevent or resolve health issues. I've learned through my childhood of starvation, learned through adulthood of diabetes and all the secondary complications, food is either poison or medicine. It's a matter of knowing the truth and discerning what is false but being taught as truth. I will most definitely be contacting Flying Disk Ranch very soon!

  • @jordanphillips1541
    @jordanphillips1541 7 месяцев назад +1

    This is the best most informative date palm video I’ve ever seen. Thank you so much

  • @avrevs
    @avrevs 7 лет назад +14

    this was so cool! i never knew anything about date farming. it's amazing!

  • @GHumpty1965
    @GHumpty1965 7 лет назад +12

    That was a great interview, he has so much knowledge and you barely scratched the surface with him. John you need to make a 2nd trip back to Flying Disc some time. Great video!

  • @brigittelm6054
    @brigittelm6054 7 лет назад +7

    Hi John, I grew up part time in Palm Desert with my Grandma. I used to play on the lots where dates and pomegranates were grown. The developers have taken out so many of the date fields, it is sooo sad. I spoke out at City council meeting to not destroy a whole block of dates and original historic house. They moved house to the pack and put up photos of history but allowed all the date tress to be bulldozed out... just heartbreaking.

    • @williamvanscottnelson2605
      @williamvanscottnelson2605 2 года назад

      😢😭

    • @1rstjames
      @1rstjames 10 месяцев назад

      It is utterly annoying how our children are fed the mantra of, "having to regenerate the planet to avoid climate disaster," but then make growing superfoods along keyline/cascading systems illegal.

  • @RibbitHopX
    @RibbitHopX 7 лет назад +4

    Nice farm and great interview with Robert. He's right about using the old pest remedies. My grandma and my mom used fruit in a jar baits and my mom used Coors Light in metal pans for slugs.

  • @nickkey656
    @nickkey656 3 года назад +2

    1:45 - "This property is 10 acres!"
    5:44 - "This place is 20 acres!"
    Dates are not the only things that just prosper and proliferate in that place - amazing what permaculture can do - even your property grows!

  • @cootenhouse1001
    @cootenhouse1001 7 лет назад +1

    have to disagree with comments on length of the video. I have rather short attention span but enjoyed watching this. Half way through I emailed Christina and am getting myself some of their dates. Thanks!

  • @MariadelPilarDiezCalderon0910
    @MariadelPilarDiezCalderon0910 7 лет назад +1

    That is correct. Basic #Permaculture #principle covering the #soil. All that knowledge that you share. Excellent.

  • @louiskotze85
    @louiskotze85 7 лет назад +9

    It might be a nice idea to add layers to graze below the trees and have an income selling eggs while improving the soil and building pastures (holistic management)

    • @1voluntaryist
      @1voluntaryist 7 лет назад +2

      Yes, great idea. Also after chipping, a grinder used to reduce the chips to sawdust for quicker compost. I find I can never have enough so I am always trying to find ways to compost quicker. Raw material is free or will be until people realize they are throwing away "gold". Activated biochar would be the final touch.

  • @ForestKnight111
    @ForestKnight111 7 лет назад +18

    REQUEST: Please do an episode on Industrial Hemp... Im curious about your thoughts and personally I think it would solve a lot of the issues with many of our air/pollution/temperature issues... I would love to see your thoughts and research on this... Thanks

    • @SteveSmekar-ll6ln
      @SteveSmekar-ll6ln 7 лет назад +4

      More like our little life saver. The trees are really getting thinned out these days.

    • @JesseJames83
      @JesseJames83 7 лет назад +5

      Your subscribers request a cannabis grow review

    • @radhakrishnanjagannathan4126
      @radhakrishnanjagannathan4126 7 лет назад

      RedBeardTheNinjaPirate best
      N
      Best

    • @MistressOP
      @MistressOP 6 лет назад

      Kentucky. I wish we would pass a hemp law in cali. we have a lot of poor farm land that needs a crop to harvest that is low water.

  • @jcmcadams08able
    @jcmcadams08able 7 лет назад +3

    Thanks for taking the time to make this video! I have had a dream similar to this for years! Nice work and very informative!

  • @GinchyGirlCreatesAndGardens
    @GinchyGirlCreatesAndGardens 7 лет назад +1

    OOh so.. I can use these to sweeten ~???? OMG wow Im so excited . Think im in love with Dates !!!

  • @l.g.a.8930
    @l.g.a.8930 6 лет назад +1

    Thank you. Excellent presentation and great information.

  • @jguavaa
    @jguavaa 7 лет назад +2

    Dates are lit af 🙌 awesome vid man!

  •  7 лет назад +1

    I really enjoyed this. I watched the WHOLE thing. Good info. even though I live in TN.

  • @oliviahill4235
    @oliviahill4235 7 лет назад +1

    I love dates, growing up in Sonora Mexico my grandfather had some organic date palms not but choice but neglect I gess, the best dates.

  • @gvas7560
    @gvas7560 7 лет назад +1

    Great video John. Thanks so much to Jake camera man. I will be ordering some of these dates but, man the shipping is kind of pricy. I hope they are as good as they look. I will probably have to contact them to ask for the sampler box since I did not see it in the order form. Thanks again and please keep doing what you are doing we (your true viewers) really appreciate your work, effort and the time you put into making this videos.

  • @WizardOfAtlantis
    @WizardOfAtlantis 7 лет назад +5

    Love your videos, man. Thanks.

  • @southerntexashomestead5028
    @southerntexashomestead5028 6 лет назад +1

    Thanks John for the great video on dates. Super info!

  • @SheThe1Who
    @SheThe1Who 4 года назад +1

    Watching this September 2020. Glad to hear the best month for dates is October!!! Mmm, soon

  • @captguy4u2
    @captguy4u2 7 лет назад +3

    Great video, lots of nice information !!!

  • @pennybahn2481
    @pennybahn2481 2 года назад

    I freeze! I use them year round to make protein balls w dates nuts raisins and coconut and they are always delicious. Going to track Robert down to buy his… we organic garden in Woodland Hills = tree fruit grapes,greens, veg - but don’t grow dates. Thanks for the video very informative. We need to support our farmers.

  • @beldengi
    @beldengi 6 лет назад +1

    $4 to $8 a pound is quite cheap compared to the price we pay in Australia, with local growers getting $35/kg through internet sales.

  • @marconunes864
    @marconunes864 Год назад

    Great Work John. Cheers from Portugal.

  • @MistressOP
    @MistressOP 6 лет назад +2

    Seaweed farmer next! :) please

  • @AnonymouslyAwakened
    @AnonymouslyAwakened 6 лет назад +1

    It's so great seeing how far you have got with your dreams I just want to say congrats. Keep up the great work also you at so funny so now I am like 40 feet up off the date palm hahaha!

  • @bryanamah
    @bryanamah 3 года назад

    I really dig the dates! Thank you for this valuable information.

  • @wi54725
    @wi54725 7 лет назад

    That beautiful desert makes me want to go there, as I can't imagine there being too many allergens. If it wasn't for the ridiculous taxation in CA, I'd want to retire there and have a near 365-day per year growing season. No humidity is another great reason to live in the desert. Nashville is as moldy as the carpet on a boat dock.
    Instead, Californians are moving to where I live in great numbers--7,500+ a year from SoCal to Nashville.
    About dates, the best I ever had came from Israel. They were organic and were purchased at a store in the DC area along with the best tasting olive oil I have ever consumed.

  • @kev4wan
    @kev4wan 3 года назад

    Very informative and entertaining. Thanks John!

  • @kurmaindonesia
    @kurmaindonesia Год назад

    Sukses selalu semua petani kurma

  • @padronopusx6460
    @padronopusx6460 2 года назад

    This is great. Total good knowledge dump

  • @camicri4263
    @camicri4263 6 лет назад

    Awesome John! Thank you!

  • @jons_tropical_garden1329
    @jons_tropical_garden1329 6 лет назад +1

    I will remember you saying Jake mace is such a stud forever haha

  • @brigittelm6054
    @brigittelm6054 7 лет назад

    Most trees I see locally in Ranchoirage and LaQuinta they wrap bundle of growing fruit with brown paper cone shape.

  • @mohammedalnomas855
    @mohammedalnomas855 3 года назад

    If you try sukari type you’ll never forgetting the taste never and ever

  • @user-pv5ir9tg8u
    @user-pv5ir9tg8u 7 месяцев назад

    Good job sir

  • @vivianganaden566
    @vivianganaden566 3 года назад

    Very awesome and educational video

  • @Anze_kotar
    @Anze_kotar 3 года назад

    nice video on dates farm

  • @kennethbrush7300
    @kennethbrush7300 7 лет назад

    Awesome! Thank you! So valuable!

  • @mightyfraserriver977
    @mightyfraserriver977 Год назад

    you will get better compost by spraying the pile with water and cover with a tarp

  • @jimbattaglia8317
    @jimbattaglia8317 7 лет назад

    Very good episode

  • @snava360z334
    @snava360z334 7 лет назад +4

    great video shout out to Jake "The Vegan" Mace.

  • @idbi8653
    @idbi8653 6 лет назад +2

    what about irrigation man

  • @precisiont5188
    @precisiont5188 2 года назад

    That area should be full of tropical fruit trees.

  • @mcbain931
    @mcbain931 5 лет назад

    I appreciate your effort for making all these very useful video. you really go extra miles all the time. could you kindly made a value chain got dates

  • @yxankiroy9920
    @yxankiroy9920 7 лет назад

    I liked this. Thank you.

  • @user-jl6qj6it8h
    @user-jl6qj6it8h Год назад

    I'm fom barbados wanted to know if date palm can bear fruit in tropic regions and if so what can I do to ensure process get well

  • @patdurr
    @patdurr 7 лет назад +2

    Great Video, John! the thumbnail made the dates look like the size of watermelons... Ha!

  • @mybenz92
    @mybenz92 4 года назад

    Excellent video!!!

  • @GinchyGirlCreatesAndGardens
    @GinchyGirlCreatesAndGardens 7 лет назад

    Hi ! So i live in Southwestern IL. I went to the market and bought some Dates in a package. Ingredients is just MEDJOOL DATES... they are SOooo sweet. Is that sugar natural? THey are delish. but Soo sweet. whew. Wish we could grow them here. NOt sure they would survive the winters.

  • @nanakedakenyatta9628
    @nanakedakenyatta9628 6 лет назад +1

    How can I purchase date seedlings from Jamaica Caribbean? Love your shows very informative!

  • @didtheyexpectustotreatthem574
    @didtheyexpectustotreatthem574 7 лет назад

    so were selling our house next year ans so i just dug 75 holes in the back yard lawn and am growing like crazy, then b4 winter (minnesota home 20 miles south of minneapolis)
    ill just grass seed the holes and move..

  • @johnshankster2464
    @johnshankster2464 4 месяца назад

    Soil is made of rock dust. It just needs the microbes to thrive. That’s why organic farming uses mulch.

  • @JamilaFalak
    @JamilaFalak Год назад

    Is there a way to know before hand a female seedling? Or it's only simply a chance we inevitably have to take?

  • @ward1compost
    @ward1compost 2 года назад

    What would happen if you added mulch around the date palm

  • @vuonnamthien
    @vuonnamthien 10 месяцев назад

    👍👍👍👍👍
    I like Date 🌴🌴🌴🌴🌴 organic

  • @chadreddick5528
    @chadreddick5528 2 года назад

    Will they survive Illinois winters if I baby them

  • @nunyabiznes33
    @nunyabiznes33 Год назад

    I wish there are shoots for sale in my country. We have to grow from seed.

  • @aliakbaramirkhani3265
    @aliakbaramirkhani3265 6 лет назад +3

    I love these type of Video ... Thank you .... :( English subtitle will help non-English natives like me :(

  • @1jw298
    @1jw298 7 лет назад +1

    Is that Will Farrell under that beard?

  • @intrepiddevildog
    @intrepiddevildog 3 года назад

    Nice video 👍👍🌴🌴🌴🌴🌴

  • @nobakwaas5161
    @nobakwaas5161 2 года назад

    Climate is getting colder

  • @MatanuskaHIGH
    @MatanuskaHIGH 7 лет назад +3

    tried watching the commercial to help your channel but dude that shit was like a 10 minute informercial..i aint down with that..lol

  • @pagevpetty
    @pagevpetty Год назад

    I wish I could read his website 😞

  • @pensive69
    @pensive69 3 года назад

    Pull up the volume / mic on the people you are interviewing pls.

  • @SpearChuck777
    @SpearChuck777 Год назад

    I wanna grow some Medjool dates from seed in Orlando

  • @TheKentuckylady717
    @TheKentuckylady717 3 года назад

    Excellent John . loved your interview.......Love Dates.....but they are so expensive.....Could hardly hear what he was saying....you sounded fine but he talked so low hard to understand what he was saying.....and my sound is all the way up... Please keep us posted about Dates, I noticed this video was from 5/21/17....have you done anything recently ? Are you still do these?

  • @felixasiedu1310
    @felixasiedu1310 3 года назад

    What are the medicinal values of dates?

  • @markandrewgriggs2294
    @markandrewgriggs2294 6 лет назад

    It's OCTOBER baby!!

  • @davidakerlund721
    @davidakerlund721 7 лет назад +1

    the date is the only reason im jealous of desert dwellers

  • @CaptTurbo
    @CaptTurbo 7 лет назад

    I like to bag my dates. And yes, temperature is important. You don't want a frigged date. ;)

  • @oldshield
    @oldshield 7 лет назад

    Jake, your are fired as a sound guy :)

  • @matthewchacon2625
    @matthewchacon2625 3 года назад

    I'm interested in all that GRASS!!!

  • @sunnihepburn1588
    @sunnihepburn1588 6 лет назад

    Great video, lots of info.. John you sweating like a sinner in church.. LOL!!!!

  • @winstonmaraj8029
    @winstonmaraj8029 7 лет назад

    Hello,can dates be grown in the Caribbean at not too high an elevation?Thanks.

  • @michealnicasio5761
    @michealnicasio5761 4 года назад

    There’s any Ajwa dates there?

  • @danielcarranza9653
    @danielcarranza9653 7 лет назад +1

    Where's the 10 min version?

    • @Glandular6841
      @Glandular6841 7 лет назад +13

      You're watching the wrong channel if you want a 10 minute video. His "short" videos are 20+ minutes.

    • @leftofright
      @leftofright 7 лет назад +6

      Daniel this guys advice is worth 10 hours of his time. Worth more than gold to the right ear.

  • @aminstropicalgardening8371
    @aminstropicalgardening8371 5 лет назад

    This firm couldn’t mail any plant to Miami. I waste 4 months to get some off shot plants

  • @saqlainkazmi3309
    @saqlainkazmi3309 2 года назад

    YOUR AUDIO IS TOO LOW.
    Maybe a problem with my earphones.
    BUT SORRY I CANNOT LISTEN TO IT

  • @rhigel2269
    @rhigel2269 5 лет назад

    Don't date palms stop producing thorns along the frond stems after the palms reach a certain height?

    • @samdave3745
      @samdave3745 Год назад

      They never stop producing thorns

  • @stevenlechner
    @stevenlechner 2 года назад

    Just like water - all the soil that has ever been there - is still there. It has always been sand there.

  • @Highdealist
    @Highdealist 6 лет назад

    I LOVE YOU JOHN. But why do you insist that every type of rock dust has 72 trace minerals?! When you crush up a rock from a quarry, it contains those minerals. Azomite contains all 72 trace minerals because it is from an ancient lake / sea bed, I think? Please someone help, I'm not sure but it's been on my mind.

  • @doolittleranch8302
    @doolittleranch8302 2 года назад

    Do they have a website?

    • @williamvanscottnelson2605
      @williamvanscottnelson2605 2 года назад

      It's in the description box . ✌

    • @rphilips6022
      @rphilips6022 2 года назад

      @@williamvanscottnelson2605 can I have you personal contact ? I have the intelligent machine you may interest in .

  • @frankb.2419
    @frankb.2419 5 лет назад

    I'm planning to plant some date trees in my property, but know absolutely nothing about it: just to start, whats the number of male/female trees ?

    • @AbhishekYadav-yt4zq
      @AbhishekYadav-yt4zq 3 года назад

      1 male per 9 female tree is enough to fertilizer all the flowers manually.

  • @LivingMiracleHomestead
    @LivingMiracleHomestead 7 лет назад +3

    this video is hard to hear. your voice came through but I couldn't hear him very much.

  • @kegtapper09
    @kegtapper09 7 лет назад

    John, have you ever checked out China Date Ranch? Not a bad drive from Vegas

    • @growingyourgreens
      @growingyourgreens  7 лет назад +3

      Many times. Here is a video I made there: ruclips.net/video/MnRDa74zR3o/видео.html
      I prefer Flying Disc to China Ranch, as they better embrace a better style of regenerative and organic agriculture. China ranch, does bag their dates, but they use synthetic fertilizers and may use herbicides.

    • @Toroloco777
      @Toroloco777 7 лет назад +1

      Man what a shame I spent 27 years in Indio and I never knew this place existed. Dude is a date farming grand master.

  • @fortunemulwanda9479
    @fortunemulwanda9479 6 лет назад

    how do i get to order a date fruit tree and how much are they a meter hight?

  • @plum413
    @plum413 7 лет назад

    Colorado river

  • @aminstropicalgardening8371
    @aminstropicalgardening8371 6 лет назад

    They can’t mail any plants

  • @whatthefunction9140
    @whatthefunction9140 7 лет назад +4

    you look uncomfortably warm John :(

  • @treelern
    @treelern 3 года назад

    how to convert date palm seed into female dates trees

  • @evgz7150
    @evgz7150 6 месяцев назад

    Travis 😂why do you look👀 so camera 📸🙄shy but you worked 'Sound' in the🤭 industry whole time!?!?!?💁🏾‍♀️ I'm just sayin...🕵️🎬📽️🎙️🎛️🎚️🎧🎤Miss everything about the Ranch!!!😭❤️

  • @1voluntaryist
    @1voluntaryist 7 лет назад +1

    I wonder if a permaculture forest, on a sheltered (walled) plot in that valley could grow bananas, cocoa, coffee, and coconut? How would we know until it is tried by an expert who has imagination? A thick adobe wall would provide a heat sink in winter and they are cheap because your material is laying all around. It just takes the initial labor for rammed earth.

  • @aminstropicalgardening8371
    @aminstropicalgardening8371 5 лет назад

    Would you please put some Nursary addresses who mail date plam tree to Miami? I called 20 Nursary, no one wants to mail. Nursary from Dubai wants to mail but I can’t get permission from Department of Agriculture. Any help to get some off shot plants is highly appreciated.

    • @katinmengodrago1912
      @katinmengodrago1912 4 года назад

      I'm in uae and I highly recommend the little circular dates, we call them lulu dates, and the red dates which is the trademark of a prominent farming region in UAE city of Al Ain. Those dates are like candy, you feel guilty eating them because their so sweet.
      Other wonderful fruits we have in this region; is a type of lime that makes the most punch lemonade, excellent for pickling, and salads; sour frim mango which is so good it eaten with the firm skin; a type of almond that doesn't produce almond but the fruit is edible, it has a unique taste (best local fruit); a tree that's from the buckhorn tree family that makes fruit that's superior to apples and better than most fruits, it good green or rip. All this plants grow really well in stoney, desert, dry and hot environment. Also all those fruits are very unreasonably expensive and no one seems to have mastered harvesting them.

    • @femolare
      @femolare 3 года назад

      @@katinmengodrago1912 Please how can I get such date palm trees from UAE. I live in South West Nigeria.

  • @BitPuffin
    @BitPuffin 7 лет назад

    You forgot to link the Aloe Vera videos

  • @TradChadFarm
    @TradChadFarm 7 лет назад

    John are you scared of heights

  • @cml375822
    @cml375822 7 лет назад

    You should be wearing a mask. That area is a heavy SQ Valley Fever. Solve that one. Hydroponics?