Yo Mr Random, I'm stationed in Germany (USAF), and I had my 05 Crown Vic P71 shipped over here. There are absolutely NO Crown Vics in Germany, and the local Germans are constantly complimenting the Vic, it's so funny how rare they are here!
My 2000 Mercury Grand Marquis handles way better too when I modified the suspension. The front is all p71 with Detroit Eaton lowering springs in the front that lowers It 2 in and Moog rear springs #C501 ('70-'72 Chevelle) that drops the rear 1.5 inches. It also has American Racing 17"×8" wheels front and back with semi-metallic break pads. Cost me almost $2000 and everything installed in a few hours
Uh, 2002- Panthers absolutely can handle very well, EVEN with the gearbox steering...We can get many of the same suspension mods as the '03+ Panthers however coilovers and willwood brakes as far as I know is not one of them. I modified my old '85 Crown vic with custom springs, Police antisway bars, Koni Adjustable shocks, big brakes, 16" cop steelies, Toyo tires and poly bushings and it made a HUGE difference in handling and if it had more power it could have easily held it's own against new cars.
Would be nice to hear him talk about wheel and tire upgrades, since that makes a HUGE difference on handling too. You don't have to go crazy, but I say toss the OEM 15" steel, tall-profile grandma wheels and go with maybe a 17" wheel with maybe 235/55R17 Michelin Pilot All Season Sport tires. I have those tires on my Audi and they grip like crazy while still being quiet, and have a 50,000 mile warranty. Awesome tires. About $130 per tire. No reason to go more low-profile than 55 series tires, especially on a Panther car (Mercury Marquis/Ford Crown Victoria/Lincoln Towncar).
Nice video. At least the P90s have a rear sway bar... The civilian versions like my 2010 Mercury Grand Marquis has no rear bar! Would be great if you put a link to these product in your description area. Would also love a budget wheel choice videos for the later Panthers with the wider track requiring unique offset wheels.
I need those front and rear spring part numbers. This is the first time you ever did a suspension mod. The Detroit springs look better than the Eaton one. Help me cut the springs on my 07 in the front and and used moog 5056 in the rear. Ran good but rear sagged a lot.
Your harness bar does nothing, because it has Hime joints which allow movement! If it was solid welded I could see a very small improvement. Your rear seat bar is a good setup.
Some Panthers have NO Sway-Bar at all. The absolute CHEAPEST upgrade to the cornering and handling of ANY vehicle is to dump the RUBBER Sway-Bar bushings and install URETHANE Bushings in their place. The famous 95 MERC runs an ADDCO 25 mm Sway Bar in the rear, with Urethane Bushings all around -- perfect for long-distance, high-speed touring of the deserts and mountains of the American West.
I have 2001 grand marquis, can I just swap it out for a rack and pinion ? Had a 240sx for the last 10 years as my drift car…. Now I have the grand marquis now. Already did the 5 speed swap
No, the frame was designed differently. I also have a 99 and I'm not trying to drift it, but the steering is fine for messing around, but if you want steering for an actual drift setup you'll want a rack and pinion frame car
I see that you have a brace where the rear seats would be, is that a custom bit or a mustang part? and does it make a appreciable difference, my 2011 CV with ADTR front and rear sway bars and ride-tech coil-overs and 265 PS4S tires feels really good however frame flex is becoming the limiting factor with pushing the car, i want to keep most if not all of the livability
Hey is there a way to change it from steering box to rack and pinion I have a 1999 p71 what can I change to upgrade my suspension. Im doing power mods but need suspension to match
Lol yeah that's normal. It's the catalytic converter and maybe the exhaust pipes and muffler cooling down. The metal expands when it's hot and then when it cools down it goes back to normal. If you don't have any other issues, it's normal.
@@MrRandomReviews Thank's I am looking to use the stock lug nuts or should I consider something special for the Mustang Bullet rims. I was hoping to find a plastic cap that threads over the original Gran Marquis lugs. Any one know of if they exist? Also any tire wold be appreciated!
when you said "budget" and started saying two I was expecting $200 not $2000 LOL
Fr that’s prob more than my vics kbb value lmao
I always use the dollar menu at McDonalds. Do you know how many Mcsalads i could get with that. Im calling the mayor
2k ain’t nothing in the car world 😂Lol
I’m the car world you have to pay to play bro
All we need is sway bars and springs.
Yo Mr Random, I'm stationed in Germany (USAF), and I had my 05 Crown Vic P71 shipped over here.
There are absolutely NO Crown Vics in Germany, and the local Germans are constantly complimenting the Vic, it's so funny how rare they are here!
My 2000 Mercury Grand Marquis handles way better too when I modified the suspension. The front is all p71 with Detroit Eaton lowering springs in the front that lowers It 2 in and Moog rear springs #C501 ('70-'72 Chevelle) that drops the rear 1.5 inches. It also has American Racing 17"×8" wheels front and back with semi-metallic break pads. Cost me almost $2000 and everything installed in a few hours
I love these cheap crown vic mod videos lol. Keep doing it man
Awesome video, been looking at a vic for months now. Such a clean car, love the cheap and affordable options showoff
Uh, 2002- Panthers absolutely can handle very well, EVEN with the gearbox steering...We can get many of the same suspension mods as the '03+ Panthers however coilovers and willwood brakes as far as I know is not one of them. I modified my old '85 Crown vic with custom springs, Police antisway bars, Koni Adjustable shocks, big brakes, 16" cop steelies, Toyo tires and poly bushings and it made a HUGE difference in handling and if it had more power it could have easily held it's own against new cars.
ADTR rocks. Thank you for posting this How To.
Back when FORD made great CARS not just over complicated TRUCKS.
Would be nice to hear him talk about wheel and tire upgrades, since that makes a HUGE difference on handling too. You don't have to go crazy, but I say toss the OEM 15" steel, tall-profile grandma wheels and go with maybe a 17" wheel with maybe 235/55R17 Michelin Pilot All Season Sport tires. I have those tires on my Audi and they grip like crazy while still being quiet, and have a 50,000 mile warranty. Awesome tires. About $130 per tire. No reason to go more low-profile than 55 series tires, especially on a Panther car (Mercury Marquis/Ford Crown Victoria/Lincoln Towncar).
I have a 95 Ford Crown Vic. Getting the front and rear sway bars is definitely something to do!
such an amazingly informative video. thank you, the question everyone's still asking: the harness bar.. more info please!
Nice video. At least the P90s have a rear sway bar... The civilian versions like my 2010 Mercury Grand Marquis has no rear bar! Would be great if you put a link to these product in your description area. Would also love a budget wheel choice videos for the later Panthers with the wider track requiring unique offset wheels.
That rear bar looks like a 90's V6 accord rear sway bar.
As always, it's a great video. Feliz ano Nuevo Mr Random
A rack and pinion steering is so much better than the old steering box setup the rack and pinion as very little free play then the box
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Roads in my area have me reluctant to lower my car.
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I doubt the thicker sway bar links matter. I don't think they are flexing. The joint is the more important part, I would think
I need those front and rear spring part numbers. This is the first time you ever did a suspension mod. The Detroit springs look better than the Eaton one. Help me cut the springs on my 07 in the front and and used moog 5056 in the rear. Ran good but rear sagged a lot.
What do you recommend for a "bump steer kit"? My panda is 2" lowered and man,you really need to drive that with both hands on the highway.
I got a 2008 crown vic p-71 and it corners well no body sway but if the road is bumpy so the ride
The 97 is meant for custom stuff. Trust me. The old boats are meant for builders not part installers
Your harness bar does nothing, because it has Hime joints which allow movement! If it was solid welded I could see a very small improvement. Your rear seat bar is a good setup.
Thanks sir.
I gotta ask... Where did you get the harness bar?
Same thing I'm thinking
Where and when is the next Cr Vic meet? all my mods are because of this channel, thanks.
close to summer
@@MrRandomReviews 👌
@@MrRandomReviews need to meet closer to the west coast like Texas
Bro how do I get that front bumper?
You can save a ton of money by bolting two stock sway bars together.
Bro what
@@ArmedAndIndigenous Pretty simple, just clamp a second stock sway bar to the original.
4:05 that's crazy how the heck that little thing on a 4k vehicle?
Some Panthers have NO Sway-Bar at all.
The absolute CHEAPEST upgrade to the cornering and handling of ANY vehicle is to dump the RUBBER Sway-Bar bushings and install URETHANE Bushings in their place.
The famous 95 MERC runs an ADDCO 25 mm Sway Bar in the rear, with Urethane Bushings all around -- perfect for long-distance, high-speed touring of the deserts and mountains of the American West.
Is that a mustang front bumper? Or just a sport model cv bumper
I have 2001 grand marquis, can I just swap it out for a rack and pinion ? Had a 240sx for the last 10 years as my drift car…. Now I have the grand marquis now. Already did the 5 speed swap
No, the frame was designed differently. I also have a 99 and I'm not trying to drift it, but the steering is fine for messing around, but if you want steering for an actual drift setup you'll want a rack and pinion frame car
You should assemble a kit for people
I have a 2000 P71. 105k original miles
can you list products in description next time?
I have a Lincoln 2006 Town Car. Which of these mods would work for my car?
2004 grand marquis here
Awsome 👍
🔥🔥🔥🔥 link for the brakes please?
Will this work with a 2004 grand Marquis floating on 16’s?
What about 2001? Mine has the Romeo pi engine, power handling package also.
Bro more videos..
Steering isn't that bad in the earlier style suspension. Yea it's not as good but it's just fine for what it is
Video starts at 3:28 you're welcome
One youtuber to another what do you feel the best tire and rims sizes are for a p71 lowered same as yours are
Where you get lowering spring for this cars???....or what mustang lowering springs fit
I see that you have a brace where the rear seats would be, is that a custom bit or a mustang part? and does it make a appreciable difference, my 2011 CV with ADTR front and rear sway bars and ride-tech coil-overs and 265 PS4S tires feels really good however frame flex is becoming the limiting factor with pushing the car, i want to keep most if not all of the livability
its a STEEDA rear X brace from mustang. it Helps with weight distribution and stiffening the rear
@@MrRandomReviews thank you so much, im going to look into it, do you know if it will fit behind the seat without modification?
also what year mustang is it originally for?
What the name of the orange bars
Hey is there a way to change it from steering box to rack and pinion I have a 1999 p71 what can I change to upgrade my suspension. Im doing power mods but need suspension to match
I got a 95 Grand Marquis and I wanna do the same
@@kendellbergstad7409 idk how but I’ll try lol 😂
Brother, are you still interested in making the cobra bumper. I would really like to have one. Just let me know how much.
What can I do to my 97 town car?
I bought the CANSHIFT for my 2008 Mercury Grand Marquis. I'm not getting any response. This is NOT going to work is it?
why not drive Mustang?
yes sir
Hey brother, what is the x bar where the back seat goes?
Could i still put those parts on my mercury grand marquis 2001?
Where did you buy that harness bar
Meanwhile my billet control arms/ watts links 🤡
Where can I find that bumper
8:31 what brand of upper control kit would you recommend?
What bumper is that? Marauder or LX?
neither. its an SN95 Cobra R bumper
Where can I get the Detroit lowering springs?
Where you get yr spoiler at bro
Luis always making talking about budgets what about us completely broke mofos lol.
Hey does anyone elses vic make poppin noises after drivin it n its parked n off?
Lol yeah that's normal. It's the catalytic converter and maybe the exhaust pipes and muffler cooling down. The metal expands when it's hot and then when it cools down it goes back to normal. If you don't have any other issues, it's normal.
will mustang rims bolt right on a 2007 gran marquis? factory 17 " mags would look good
they should bolt right up as long as its from a 1994-2014 mustang
2018 ...18 in on my 05
@@MrRandomReviews Thank's I am looking to use the stock lug nuts or should I consider something special for the Mustang Bullet rims. I was hoping to find a plastic cap that threads over the original Gran Marquis lugs. Any one know of if they exist? Also any tire wold be appreciated!
How about 2001
Dose having air ride mess with me doing all this
Only if you are getting parts that might interfere
You mean $4500 crown victoria lol
Tbh cvpi In my opinion are not really that comfortable getting in and out. I feel like an old man trying to pull myself outta the car