How Did Vestas Sailrocket 2 Smash the Sailing Speed Record?!?!

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  • Опубликовано: 27 сен 2024
  • In this video we talk about how Sailrocket 2 works, including how it smashed through the 50 knot foil cavitation barrier to break the sailing speed record at 65.45 knots (121.2 km/h) over 500m.
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  • @rize7737
    @rize7737 Год назад +118

    This channel is criminally underrated. Great job.

  • @russelldesilva1560
    @russelldesilva1560 Год назад +134

    Despite its limitations, sail rocket 2 is indeed one of the coolest sailing contraptions ever devised.
    A spectacular feat of perseverance, engineering, and bravery.
    Don't care one little bit if there's only 1 place in the world it can sail that fast. 👍

    • @SailingTipsCa
      @SailingTipsCa  Год назад +3

      Well said - I totally agree!!!

    • @alexanderSydneyOz
      @alexanderSydneyOz Год назад +5

      It is certainly uber cool, and just the toy for some rich, sail enthusiast, Namibian, who has everything else already

    • @SailingTipsCa
      @SailingTipsCa  Год назад +3

      @@alexanderSydneyOz And it does keep the rest of us (non-rich) entertained!

    • @martinpoulsen6564
      @martinpoulsen6564 Год назад +6

      @@alexanderSydneyOz Well.... Vestas is far from Namibian... or even boatbuilders. But they do make offshore turbines, so I bet there's a ton of secret R&D hidden in there, that they could possibly use, and if not, it's still great exposure as masters of the wind. It's big corp budget on that thing, not just billionaire fun and games.

    • @AJ-kv1po
      @AJ-kv1po Год назад +1

      That pass reminds me of the olden days land and water speed runs using engines, just sittin there ready to die.

  • @jamesdunn9609
    @jamesdunn9609 Год назад +34

    You explained a fairly complex subject in a way that anyone could easily understand. Well done! I grew up on the Chesapeake Bay and spent the summers of my youth sailing. When I got a little older I was fortunate enough to get an opportunity to sail on one of the Chesapeake Bay Log Canoes. I spent a year racing on the canoes which was a truly memorable time. Going fast on a sailboat is something everyone should do at least once in their lives. If you are ten feet out on a board it's even more incredible!

    • @SailingTipsCa
      @SailingTipsCa  Год назад +4

      That sounds like lots of fun - I agree!!!

  • @royshashibrock3990
    @royshashibrock3990 Год назад +51

    Great video...informative, to the point, not overly long, and no BS.

    • @SailingTipsCa
      @SailingTipsCa  Год назад +1

      That was the idea - glad you liked it!

  • @MattBaker1965
    @MattBaker1965 Год назад +9

    I watches the whole Sailrocket project from start to finish. I was amazing the ups and down the crash and the indomitable spirit of the team. Thanks for sharing their triumph with us.

    • @SailingTipsCa
      @SailingTipsCa  Год назад

      That must have been an amazing journey for the Sailrocket team!!!

  • @philiptorrens2052
    @philiptorrens2052 Год назад +5

    Thanks for this. I'd stubbled across videos of SailRocket years and years ago, but never really understood the tech until your explanation. Fair winds to you!

  • @HJB._
    @HJB._ Месяц назад +1

    Yes, this channel is really criminally underrated. Great job.

    • @SailingTipsCa
      @SailingTipsCa  Месяц назад

      Thanks so much - glad you like it!!!

  • @tobuslieven
    @tobuslieven Год назад +5

    I've been fascinated by Sailrocket 2 for ages, and tried to watch all the videos I could about it, but I hadn't understood the mechanics of how it worked until I this video. It's way weirder than I thought it was. Great video!

    • @SailingTipsCa
      @SailingTipsCa  Год назад +2

      Thanks so much! I was also disappointed that other videos of Sailrocket didn’t really explain how it worked, so I made this video! Thanks for watching!

    • @LoanwordEggcorn
      @LoanwordEggcorn Год назад

      Yes, but it's really a specialized version/different arrangement of how all sailboats work. It's also very similar to windsurfing (with the rigid wing), which I recall is also very popular (cor setting speed records) in that location in Namibia.

  • @freakymaxdesignpro
    @freakymaxdesignpro Год назад +29

    It may be a one trick pony but man is that a cool trick.

    • @SailingTipsCa
      @SailingTipsCa  Год назад +4

      That’s a great way of describing it!!!

  • @bilharzia
    @bilharzia Год назад +7

    This is great content. I like easily consumable bites of pure knowledge like this. Keep up the good work!

  • @googleyoutubechannel8554
    @googleyoutubechannel8554 Год назад +12

    I think lack of ability to even travel in 2 directions, nevermind turn, definitely puts this in the 'contraption' category

    • @SailingTipsCa
      @SailingTipsCa  Год назад +1

      Yes despite being very good at one thing there are definitely some limitations!

  • @florissteenkamp1962
    @florissteenkamp1962 Год назад +4

    I am from Walvis Bay and did articles on Sailrocket project for local newspaper. Larse and Helena were on project. Wonderful people and so were the other people who worked on Sailrocket.

    • @SailingTipsCa
      @SailingTipsCa  Год назад +1

      How cool that you got to meet and work with them!!!

  • @jonathanlevine8497
    @jonathanlevine8497 Год назад +2

    As a speed sailor myself (TriFoiler #23 "Unfair Advantage"), I've been watching Sailrocket since the beginning and admire how fabulously bonkers it is. I'm glad you touched on the (obvious to anyone paying attention) one-tack limitation - scream down, tow it back. Great little vid.

    • @SailingTipsCa
      @SailingTipsCa  Год назад +1

      Glad you liked it! I couldn't help but look up your boat and it looks pretty cool too!

    • @LoanwordEggcorn
      @LoanwordEggcorn Год назад +1

      @@SailingTipsCa The Hobie TriFoilers were amazing. It's kind of sad that they don't have many successors/imitators.

    • @SailingTipsCa
      @SailingTipsCa  Год назад

      @@LoanwordEggcorn Yes creating a small foiler for the "masses" is a bit of a challenge! I think there have been some decent attempts with the Waszp, UFO, and Stunt S2, but around here (Pacific Northwest) I see mostly foiling kiteboards.

    • @LoanwordEggcorn
      @LoanwordEggcorn Год назад

      @@SailingTipsCa The advantage of the Hobie TriFoiler is that it's probably more stable and relatively drier than a MOTH, etc. It's more like a foiling regular small multihull and not as much of an almost windsurfing/kiting/dinghy type wet experience. Hopefully it also spends much less time broached or capsized.

  • @rydenkaye9735
    @rydenkaye9735 Год назад +10

    You should do a video on the attempts to beat sailrocket by syroco and sp80, or others if you can find them. The concept of force alignment is clearly present in their designs, but with a kite and downward foil instead of sail

    • @SailingTipsCa
      @SailingTipsCa  Год назад +5

      Good idea! Paul Larsen (Sailrocket 2 skipper/pilot/astronaut) speculated that the Sailrocket 2 record would be most likely be broken by a kite-driven tension device!

  • @iNcog_AoE
    @iNcog_AoE Год назад +2

    I was a ramp agent around private jet for about 5 years. I always noticed that some of the jets had square trailing edges on their wings, but I was never able to figure out why or find anyone who knew why. It bugged me for years. Thanks to this video, I suspect that the big jets (think Gulfstream) exploit a super cavitating foil as well. This video was an epiphany to me. Thank you for this upload.

    • @SailingTipsCa
      @SailingTipsCa  Год назад +1

      Aeronautic engineers apply all kinds of tricks! Glad you liked the video!

    • @Your_Paramour
      @Your_Paramour Год назад

      cavitation cannot occur in air because air is already vaporised.

  • @LoanwordEggcorn
    @LoanwordEggcorn Год назад +1

    Thanks for another wonderfully clear explanation.
    For the relatively static conditions there, one could have a teardrop ladder foil above the cavitating foil to get up to speed sooner. Might cause some drag in wave crests though.

    • @SailingTipsCa
      @SailingTipsCa  Год назад

      Good eye! I'm pretty sure I've seen some Sailrocket foil photos that do show a sub-cavitating lifting foil section above the cavitating foil for this exact purpose!

    • @LoanwordEggcorn
      @LoanwordEggcorn Год назад

      @@SailingTipsCa Yes, and I may have been vaguely remembering this when when I looked at Sailrocket many years ago.
      Ladder foils were pretty common in the early days of hydrofoils, but have pros and cons, like anything else.

  • @BradBo1140
    @BradBo1140 11 месяцев назад +2

    You ain’t kidding, super cool!

    • @SailingTipsCa
      @SailingTipsCa  11 месяцев назад

      Probably also slightly terrifying to sail it that fast!!!

  • @bojangles2492
    @bojangles2492 Месяц назад +8

    That thing isn't sailing, it is flying just above the water and dipping its toes.

    • @SailingTipsCa
      @SailingTipsCa  Месяц назад +1

      That’s one way to describe it!

    • @Juan-jm7sf
      @Juan-jm7sf Месяц назад +1

      It's how it's attached

    • @Alex-cw3rz
      @Alex-cw3rz 10 дней назад

      It's not flying it's falling with style

    • @VictorBianculli
      @VictorBianculli 4 дня назад +1

      It's foiling.

    • @SailingTipsCa
      @SailingTipsCa  4 дня назад

      @@VictorBianculli Yes except the foil is keeping it attached instead of lifting it out of the water as is more common!

  • @NICOLAS25478
    @NICOLAS25478 Год назад +1

    Very correct explanations. I was at the Christianing of the SR2 in Cowes. When i saw the foil, i said; no way. But Paul Larson tried to explain it to me for the first time then. Creasy stuff.

    • @SailingTipsCa
      @SailingTipsCa  Год назад +2

      That must have been cool to see before she was shipped off to Namibia!

  • @hugogreen13
    @hugogreen13 Год назад +1

    Any one who has windsurfing experience will know about cavitation(spin out) . And at much lower speeds than referred to here.
    So it’s interesting that these foiling yatchts seem to have pushed the boundaries somewhat

    • @SailingTipsCa
      @SailingTipsCa  Год назад

      Sometimes at lower speeds people will experience foil ventilation, which happens when air gets sucked down the foil and it loses its “grip” on the water. It’s technically not cavitation but often called that - could this be it?

  • @pauldailey4477
    @pauldailey4477 Год назад +3

    3:15 of flawless delivery. Guy, you might be the best I´ve seen. You got right to it and there were no questions left unanswered. Well maybe, how much is Vestas spending to achieve the record? Answer, if a wind turbine/wind farm multi-national can not win...then who?

    • @SailingTipsCa
      @SailingTipsCa  Год назад

      Thanks for the kind words! I have no idea how much the Sailrocket project cost, nor what percentage of it was covered by Vestas, but I’ll keep my eyes and ears open!

    • @SailingTipsCa
      @SailingTipsCa  Год назад

      @@sneescampers Yes that’s why I didn’t include Sailrocket in this video: How Fast Can a Foiling Sailboat Actually Go?!?!?
      ruclips.net/video/SWGBgR_Np3E/видео.html I think Sailrocket is cool but also very niche!

  • @KlingbergWingMkII
    @KlingbergWingMkII Год назад +3

    Amazing! I track this kind of stuff all the time (I'm an aero eng) and I learned new cool stuff today, thanks!

  • @natkingcol909
    @natkingcol909 Год назад +1

    That boat is insane.... The driver must have been terrified!

    • @SailingTipsCa
      @SailingTipsCa  Год назад

      I suspect he might have emptied his drawers after that record run!!!

  • @markhuebner7580
    @markhuebner7580 Год назад +1

    Beautiful! Limited current application, but technology marches on!

  • @gefginn3699
    @gefginn3699 2 года назад +3

    Great post my friend. Very interesting. 🌞🌴⛵️

  • @TheZoePath
    @TheZoePath Год назад +2

    How did they even imagine that design?!? It seems counterintuitive at so many levels.

    • @SailingTipsCa
      @SailingTipsCa  Год назад +2

      I think the initial design idea was conceived by Bernard Smith in the 1960s but it took several decades before modern materials and design enabled it to become a reality! Check out the Sailrocket site for more details: www.sailrocket.com/node/259

  • @lukecreamer8426
    @lukecreamer8426 Месяц назад +1

    "maybe not even a boat" made me roll

    • @SailingTipsCa
      @SailingTipsCa  Месяц назад +1

      LOL the World Speed Sailing Record Council (WSSRC) cleverly dodges the issue by calling them “sailing craft”!

  • @gregripp
    @gregripp Год назад

    Windsurfers and kiteboarders is this principle but use bodyweight to keep from lifting off. Sometimes you are just riding the fin! It's a blast! Thanks for the video and keep up the good work.

  • @MLambdaman
    @MLambdaman Год назад +1

    Well explained and straight to the point. Good job, sir.

  • @PeterJames143
    @PeterJames143 Год назад +1

    Thanks. Sailing is so complicated.

    • @SailingTipsCa
      @SailingTipsCa  Год назад +1

      Yes it is, and the constant learning required makes it very interesting IMHO!

  • @nigeldawson5960
    @nigeldawson5960 Год назад +1

    Dude, excellent explainer. Thanks. I learned something.

    • @SailingTipsCa
      @SailingTipsCa  Год назад

      Excellent - the goal of the channel is to help people learn about sailing so glad to hear it’s working!!!

  • @DIYNauticalDream
    @DIYNauticalDream 2 года назад +2

    Thanks for the detailed explanation. I was wondering how it was able to sail so fast and still stay hooked on the water. It's not very practical since it's limited to only one direction.

    • @SailingTipsCa
      @SailingTipsCa  2 года назад +3

      Glad you liked it! No not very practical but still cool!

    • @geoffmcbroom5302
      @geoffmcbroom5302 Год назад +2

      I suspect practicality was of little concern in the design and development of Larson's Sailrocket - they wanted to get the world sailing speed record, which they did. A brilliant achievement.

    • @SailingTipsCa
      @SailingTipsCa  Год назад +1

      @@geoffmcbroom5302 I completely agree!!!

  • @TheAussieLeo
    @TheAussieLeo Год назад

    Using inefficiency to overcome efficiency problems. What a great design.

  • @aaronredbaron
    @aaronredbaron Год назад

    Awesome! I worked with a team who built an airship that uses a vertical dual foil design, it's called the Windcrafter Carangifoil. It's my dream to see airships sail the sky!

    • @SailingTipsCa
      @SailingTipsCa  Год назад

      That must have been a cool job!!!

    • @aaronredbaron
      @aaronredbaron Год назад

      @@SailingTipsCa we never found enough funding to build manned versions, but I experienced it working with several radio controlled models, in the wind. There is a patent on it, but it is going into the public domain this next spring. Would love to discuss the benefits of vertical airships if you want, at this point we would just love to see a manned version fly someday!

  • @jamesaron1967
    @jamesaron1967 Год назад

    Excellent explanation on an otherwise arcane extreme sailing craft.

  • @lavaljeantet
    @lavaljeantet Год назад

    Yes for the picture you indicated... and the funny anecdote is THAT THIS PARAVANE HAS BEEN SHORTENED progressively with an electric saw ON TO seek empirically for the optimum area, a figure which is nearly impossible find by CFD

    • @SailingTipsCa
      @SailingTipsCa  Год назад

      LOL I know! I think they also tried a couple variations of the wedge-shaped design.

  • @streetsailor
    @streetsailor Год назад

    Thanks for the clear illustrations!

  • @ddnorth65
    @ddnorth65 Год назад

    Excellent, concise description of the technology! You should teach a master class on technology video production !

    • @SailingTipsCa
      @SailingTipsCa  Год назад

      Thanks for your kind words! I get lots of practice explaining things to my (non-technical) wife!!!

  • @dipling.pitzler7650
    @dipling.pitzler7650 3 месяца назад +1

    Look at the shape of the tail fin on a Blackbird SR-22, it has the same wedge shape like the Sailrocket foil !

  • @GG-zh6yp
    @GG-zh6yp Год назад +1

    very cool - bring on the super-cavitation era!!

    • @SailingTipsCa
      @SailingTipsCa  Год назад

      Exactly! Some say they’re not good in light air though ;-)

  • @genius1a
    @genius1a Год назад

    Excellent and compact explanation! I'd say as much as this boat is just for making a speed record run - it shows and extends the technological barriers, that have been reached when using foils at speed. Maybe in 20 years someone will build upon those insights and be able to build an even faster sailing boat with new ideas. Or a boat that can make use of this technology, but designed to be a more practical multi directional sailing vessel.

    • @SailingTipsCa
      @SailingTipsCa  Год назад

      Sailrocket definitely pushed the limits but had to make some practical compromises to get there! The more recent focus has been to use foils to achieve higher averages speeds in moderate conditions, rather than top-end speed, as explained in this video: How Fast Can a Foiling Sailboat Actually Go?!?!? ruclips.net/video/SWGBgR_Np3E/видео.html

  • @GarretKrampe
    @GarretKrampe Год назад +1

    Yeah good analysis .. well done.

  • @davemason6501
    @davemason6501 Год назад +2

    Didn't realize the foils cavitated. I thought the speed limit was drag like on an iceboat. The Sailrocket is the latest in a line of record breaker that could only sail on one tack. Remember the 2 Crossbows, and Slingshot? Been enjoying your videos since RUclips brought them to my attention a few days ago.

    • @SailingTipsCa
      @SailingTipsCa  Год назад +2

      Sailing fast is all about lift versus drag and the drag can come from lots of places - hull, foils, sails themselves! Glad you’re enjoying the videos!

    • @rhett7716
      @rhett7716 Год назад

      @@SailingTipsCa hmmm im surprised that they cavitate. so is that a limiting factor with plane wings too??
      is it an opposite force the foil is applying against the sail or is it resistance ?

    • @iansmith6728
      @iansmith6728 Год назад

      @@rhett7716 You might find the videos of the design of the SR71 Blackbird very interesting. If you find the right one it will go some way to answer your question. Inspiring engineering.

  • @nicholasfulford6753
    @nicholasfulford6753 Год назад +1

    It advances engineering and helps push the limits of what was thought possible. That is useful. Whether it leads to practical improvements in sailing speeds is another question. (In this case, probably not due to all the limitations described. Still, it is cool as hell.)

    • @KlingbergWingMkII
      @KlingbergWingMkII Год назад +1

      Actually, it is a really important result. It clearly shows the benefits to be gained if one can reduce the amount of cavitation on regular foil boats. This is akin to all the work that has been done on airliner design at transonic speeds to reduce fuel consumption (I used to work at Boeing). Trip strips anyone?

    • @SailingTipsCa
      @SailingTipsCa  Год назад

      @@KlingbergWingMkII In my mind it is akin to transonic transition although the mechanism is different.

  • @MdSteel7
    @MdSteel7 6 дней назад +1

    Great video, thanks

  • @vermontsownboy6957
    @vermontsownboy6957 Год назад +1

    Everything you said about Sail Rocket are fair points. But I disagree with you about not mentioning Sail Rocket in a discussion about fast sailboats, for several reasons. First, Paul Larsen's team did this record breaking work more than 10 years ago, and to my knowledge, their outright sailing speed record is not yet being threatened. What they accomplished in basically a small shed, and a shoe-string budget, is a testimony to hard-headed commitment. It's nothing short of astonishing. Second , the fundamental R&D that went into designing, building, and testing sail-rocket is classic Wright-brothers style of engineering. My hat's off to this crew. Finally, Sail Rocket achieved a peak instantaneous speed of 68.33 knots....this in a sail driven craft. At the time, this simply defies belief.
    Around the time of the Sail Rocket record runs, I watched a video piece on the kite surfers at Luderitz making speed runs in their specially dug trench in the sand. As one kite boarder packed up his rig in the trunk of his car, he smuggly said "let's see sail rocket do that". A bystander overheard the comment and shot back: "OK, now let's see you put the trench in your trunk as well." Touche.
    Point is, early advancements in sailing speed records necessarily occur within the limitations of then existing engineering limits, designs, and materials. Sailing faster yet is the scientific process at work.

    • @SailingTipsCa
      @SailingTipsCa  Год назад +1

      I agree that the Sailrocket project produced an amazing result on a tiny budget compared to other campaigns!
      My comments about it being a boat or not are related to the fact that it can only sail on one tack and one point of sail i.e. it can’t sail an arbitrary course.
      Still an amazing achievement in my mind though!!!

    • @vermontsownboy6957
      @vermontsownboy6957 Год назад

      @@SailingTipsCa Yehp, that's fair. But Sailrocket also overcame fundamental limits to the then-known design paradigms and challenges, pointing the way for others to follow. 11 years later, still an astonishing accomplishment.

    • @SailingTipsCa
      @SailingTipsCa  Год назад

      @@vermontsownboy6957 Yes first sailing vessel with super-ventilating/cavitating foils that I’m aware of!!! I think Syroco is using some of the same concepts but haven’t pulled it all together yet…

  • @aljudy01
    @aljudy01 Месяц назад +1

    My simple question regarding Sailrocket 2 is why have they not tweeked her and gone out again to squeeze another few knots?
    Would love to see her out once a year in Walvis. It's been 12 long years since the record was set.
    Where is all the competition as well?

    • @SailingTipsCa
      @SailingTipsCa  Месяц назад

      I suspect they were probably exhausted both financially, emotionally, and physically at the time, and having smashed the record by such a huge margin the team members probably disbanded to pursue other opportunities that would have been knocking down their doors at the time. There is however another project actively chasing their record: syro.co/en/speed-record/

  • @milesmoore8705
    @milesmoore8705 Год назад +2

    SailGP Team France hit almost 54 knots. Pretty amazing.

    • @SailingTipsCa
      @SailingTipsCa  Год назад +1

      I know! Their foils must have been cavititating like crazy!!!

  • @neilcam
    @neilcam 9 месяцев назад +2

    .
    Most speed records require the competitor to complete the course in 2 directions (i.e. there and back), the fact that Sailrocket 2 can only go in one direction, to my mind, completely invalidates the record. It's a very interesting contraption, but not a record setter to my mind. Great explanation on the foils though.

    • @SailingTipsCa
      @SailingTipsCa  9 месяцев назад +1

      Yes with land-based records they like to have you run in two directions to “erase” the effects of the wind, but with sailing records you’re really trying to harness the wind to the greatest degree. I agree it would be far more practical if it could sail an arbitrary course!

  • @ernestoherreralegorreta137
    @ernestoherreralegorreta137 Год назад +1

    Sailrocket's supercavitating foil reminds me of the North American X-15 rocket plane's supercavitating vertical stabilizer. Although also unable to fly an arbitrary course and was certainly not "particulary practical", the X-15 is still the fastest airplane ever flown nevertheless.

    • @SailingTipsCa
      @SailingTipsCa  Год назад +1

      Yes I think there are lots of parallels with experimental high-speed flight!

  • @whoisjohngalt-hg5us
    @whoisjohngalt-hg5us 7 месяцев назад +1

    For those interested check out the Hudson River Ice Yachts..... phenomenal speed at the start of the 20th Century pardon the pun they blew me away. Congrats on a great channel.

    • @SailingTipsCa
      @SailingTipsCa  7 месяцев назад

      Ice boats are simultaneously amazing and terrifying!!! Glad you like the channel!

  • @ieism1
    @ieism1 Год назад

    Thanks for a great explainer!

  • @PorkChopXpress4385
    @PorkChopXpress4385 11 месяцев назад +1

    Amazing video. Great job sir!

    • @SailingTipsCa
      @SailingTipsCa  11 месяцев назад

      Thanks for your kind words - glad you liked it!

    • @PorkChopXpress4385
      @PorkChopXpress4385 11 месяцев назад

      @@SailingTipsCa I believe Einstein said true genuis is explaining something incredibly complex in a way that everyone can understand. Nailed it

    • @SailingTipsCa
      @SailingTipsCa  11 месяцев назад

      @@PorkChopXpress4385 Wow best compliment ever!!!

    • @PorkChopXpress4385
      @PorkChopXpress4385 10 месяцев назад

      @@SailingTipsCa just had to come back to this one more time. I firmly believe the education system could be transformed with the method of teaching you used. There is a potential to convey so much information in a short period of time if done correctly. It is my opinion that you did it correctly!

    • @SailingTipsCa
      @SailingTipsCa  10 месяцев назад

      @@PorkChopXpress4385 Maybe it would be more fun and engaging for the kids too! Any suggestions for other interesting sailing-related topics?

  • @HakureiReimuOfficial
    @HakureiReimuOfficial Год назад

    Amazing stuff. It's definitely a boat though, it's a sea-going vessel, it doesn't fly or ride on land, and a sailboat since it uses the wind to power itself. You wouldn't call a land speed drag car "not a car" because it looks weird, it'll always look weird because speed requires such sacrifices. Also I'd love a go at it, it looks terrifyingly fun!

    • @SailingTipsCa
      @SailingTipsCa  Год назад +1

      I think the speed record applies to “sailing craft” which includes boats, wind surfers and kite surfers. I agree that it would be slightly terrifying!

    • @HakureiReimuOfficial
      @HakureiReimuOfficial Год назад

      @@SailingTipsCa that makes sense too, actually

  • @P8qzxnxfP85xZ2H3wDRV
    @P8qzxnxfP85xZ2H3wDRV Год назад +1

    But does it really need flat water? We could just make it bigger and the size of the waves would shrink in relation to the size of the foil.

    • @SailingTipsCa
      @SailingTipsCa  Год назад

      The Sailrocket was designed to fit into a standard 40’ shipping container to make it easier to transport from the manufacturing site to the sailing site. Making it bigger would enable it to handle bigger waves, but still probably not the waves you’d typically encounter in 30 knots of wind in the open ocean. Deliveries would also be much more difficult!

  • @feedingravens
    @feedingravens Год назад

    So you run into similiarly weird issues like RC gliders. There the speed record is in the meantime 882 kpb (548 mph).
    So you are as fast as a jet and get near the sound barrier. And that means that you run into compressibility, that in some parts of the wing the air is accelerated to supersonic, which gives a shock wave, causes the airflow to delaminate, the lift to implode and drag to explode.
    So the ones that "are in the scene" say that to get faster, they would have to switch to transonic airfoils, that are optimized to minimize this shockwave effect of local supersonic airflow.
    But they - surprise! - are bad at low airspeeds, where you need lift. They are usually very thin with a sharp leading edge (and so only good for a VERY small angle of attack range).

    • @SailingTipsCa
      @SailingTipsCa  Год назад

      Wow that’s fast for an RC glider!!!
      Yes the similarities are interesting with efficient (high lift/low drag) foils having “speed limits” which require a different engineering solution to go faster, and that solution is very inefficient at lower speeds!
      Ideally one would have transforming foil shapes but that’s also very hard in underwater foils because they are very heavily loaded as compared to airplane wings, being much smaller because water is so much denser.

  • @JimP226
    @JimP226 Год назад

    Amazing the Vestas team managed to accomplish this without destroying their boat on a well charted reef or ploughing over a fishing boat killing one of the fishermen. Perseverance at its finest.

    • @SailingTipsCa
      @SailingTipsCa  Год назад

      Yes, hats off to Paul Larsen and his team!

  • @craigruchman7007
    @craigruchman7007 5 месяцев назад +1

    Super informative

  • @jimbo92107
    @jimbo92107 11 месяцев назад +1

    How about a rotating pizza cutter blade for the hydroplane? That way the blade would rotate at the same speed as the water, so cavitation would be eliminated. Then you could go as fast as Sailrocket 2, but with a normal hydroplane setup. Tip: Don't touch the blade...

    • @SailingTipsCa
      @SailingTipsCa  11 месяцев назад

      Interesting idea - I agree that touching the blade would not be recommended!!!

  • @lh9135
    @lh9135 11 месяцев назад +1

    The competition is continuiing with SP80 (Switzerland) and Syroco (France) !

    • @SailingTipsCa
      @SailingTipsCa  11 месяцев назад

      I know - it will be exciting to see how this plays out!!!

  • @paradiselost9946
    @paradiselost9946 3 месяца назад +1

    this is one of the few times i accept impracticality... when you use various well known effects in a new way, sometimes contradictory to common practice, to do something previously considered impossible...
    thankyou for making a 3 minute video rather than 30 to say the same thing.

    • @SailingTipsCa
      @SailingTipsCa  3 месяца назад

      Thanks - I very much prefer making 3 minute videos over longer videos!!!

  • @TommyApel
    @TommyApel Год назад

    Regardless of the limitations of the design, the fact that it can get to 65kt is impressive for a sail boat, it's almost powerboat terretory.

    • @SailingTipsCa
      @SailingTipsCa  Год назад

      Yes and there are many powerboats that can’t approach Sailrocket’s speeds!

  • @mojoneko8303
    @mojoneko8303 Год назад +1

    All boats are a compromise. This boat makes a lot of compromise's to achieve the speeds it does. The biggest compromise it makes is practicality... This is about as practical as converting a Trimaran into a wing in ground affect. Thanks for the video.

    • @SailingTipsCa
      @SailingTipsCa  Год назад

      Yes all boats are indeed a compromise, especially when pushing the limits of performance!!!

    • @mojoneko8303
      @mojoneko8303 Год назад

      @@SailingTipsCa It's definitely pushing the limits of something.. 🙂 My wife and I have sailed the coast of Alaska for 20+ years for months at a time. I am fine with sailing at 5-6 knots and watching the scenery go by. My priority is a safe, seaworthy boat not speed. That is the compromise I make when buying a boat. Last thing I want is to have the damn thing sink out from under us 100 miles from anywhere.. I wouldn't mind owning a faster boat as long as it isn't a compromise in safety and seaworthiness. Thanks for the reply! 🙂

    • @SailingTipsCa
      @SailingTipsCa  Год назад

      @@mojoneko8303 Definitely understandable given the remoteness of your sailing area - beautiful place!!!

    • @mojoneko8303
      @mojoneko8303 Год назад

      @@SailingTipsCa Turning a Trimaran into a wing in ground effect. Now that would be an impressive engineering feat. Especially if you could accomplish it with sails instead of a motor. Hmm sounds like I found a winter project.. 🙂

    • @SailingTipsCa
      @SailingTipsCa  Год назад

      @@mojoneko8303 Yes, and you could make a RUclips channel!!!

  • @erlandodk
    @erlandodk Год назад +2

    60 kts?! SIXTY?! That's insane. I don't care if it's actually not a boat it's still an impressive feat of engineering. 😊

    • @SailingTipsCa
      @SailingTipsCa  Год назад +1

      Yes 65.24 to be precise, and the momentary top speed was 68 or something. That’s over 120 km/h!!!

    • @getsideways7257
      @getsideways7257 Год назад +1

      @@SailingTipsCa I believe not every helicopter can go that fast :)

    • @SailingTipsCa
      @SailingTipsCa  Год назад +1

      @@getsideways7257 Even a slower helicopter is probably more versatile though!

    • @getsideways7257
      @getsideways7257 Год назад +1

      @@SailingTipsCa True. And either is exceedingly dangerous.

  • @timonix2
    @timonix2 4 месяца назад +1

    I wonder if a conventional hydrofoil could beat the cavitation barrier by changing the shape of the foil while moving

    • @SailingTipsCa
      @SailingTipsCa  4 месяца назад

      Yes that would be really cool - like an airplane wing! The engineering challenge is that foils are comparatively small and very highly loaded so not much room inside for what would need to be some very strong actuators!

  • @TornadoCAN99
    @TornadoCAN99 Год назад +1

    Land speed sailing record is currently about 120 mph (105 Kts). So it would appear the water interface is still the limiting factor here, not the rig.

    • @SailingTipsCa
      @SailingTipsCa  Год назад

      Yes drag / friction with the water is far greater than wheels on land or blades on ice, so definitely the limiting factor, even with foils!

    • @lachlanhines7644
      @lachlanhines7644 Год назад +1

      The land speed record for cars is currently 760mph with at least 3 current project aiming for 1000mph. The water speed record is 317.5mph, and it hasn't been broken since 1978 because people keep dying trying, though there at at least 6 current WSR projects, including the current LSR holders.

  • @boedilllard5952
    @boedilllard5952 5 месяцев назад +1

    I think about 30 seconds in my thought was - how do they get back unless they do a whole lot of tacking.

  • @WouterHalswijk
    @WouterHalswijk Год назад

    Very nice and informative video, I had no idea this negative lift hydrofoil principle was used!
    Only comment: it's not air that fills a cavitation bubble but (low pressure) water vapor. If there is air, it must be an active bleed system.

    • @SailingTipsCa
      @SailingTipsCa  Год назад +1

      In this particular case it’s a combination of water vapour from cavitation and air sucked down the from the surface, so really more of a “superventilating” foil!

  • @theoneed2051
    @theoneed2051 Год назад +1

    For one of the biggest mysteries is how sails are able to generate forward thrust.

    • @SailingTipsCa
      @SailingTipsCa  Год назад

      This video might provide some insight! How Does a Boat Sail Faster Than The Wind?!?!? ruclips.net/video/LKLa8_GOuPg/видео.html

    • @theoneed2051
      @theoneed2051 Год назад

      @@SailingTipsCa it sure did thank you

    • @SailingTipsCa
      @SailingTipsCa  Год назад

      @@theoneed2051 Excellent!!!

  • @bradarmstrong3952
    @bradarmstrong3952 Год назад

    "... maybe not even a boat" perfect observation

  • @iamKBCummings
    @iamKBCummings 3 месяца назад +1

    I was there in the 1970's. cold water though.

    • @SailingTipsCa
      @SailingTipsCa  2 месяца назад

      Cool - were you partaking in any kinds of sailing!

  • @Dafoodmaster
    @Dafoodmaster Год назад +1

    Some kind of master tactian in history could've used this tech for a very specific ambush

  • @jamesascher8147
    @jamesascher8147 Год назад +1

    'maybe not even a boat' made me laugh

    • @SailingTipsCa
      @SailingTipsCa  Год назад

      LOL that was the goal - glad it worked!!!

  • @florinadrian5174
    @florinadrian5174 5 месяцев назад +1

    2:17 Why not use a variable geometry foil that would be efficient at all speeds?

    • @SailingTipsCa
      @SailingTipsCa  5 месяцев назад

      Yes that would be ideal, like airplane wings, but more space inside them for mechanisms!

  • @gregparrott
    @gregparrott Год назад

    Very interesting. I've never even heard of the 'SailRocket', or the concept of 'Super Cavitation'.
    Perhaps in a few years, someone will figure out how to apply these concepts in rougher waters and arbitrary courses

    • @SailingTipsCa
      @SailingTipsCa  Год назад

      Yes it will be interesting to see if somebody can figure out how to build a foil that is efficient in more wind ranges!

  • @XB10001
    @XB10001 Год назад

    Very ingenious!

  • @AnvilAirsoftTV
    @AnvilAirsoftTV Год назад

    Makes me wonder if a blown flap could do a similar job in a AC or Sail GP foiling boat above the 50 knot barrier

    • @SailingTipsCa
      @SailingTipsCa  Год назад

      Like a jettisoned flap? The main issue would be that the supercavitating foil is very inefficient at lower speeds so you'd have to stay above 50 knots which would be hard, otherwise sub-cavitating foils will get you there faster with higher average speeds.

  • @PaulStClair-or3gj
    @PaulStClair-or3gj 5 месяцев назад +1

    Could a large version of this carry a load viable enough for industrial transport.. l wonder. (⛵⚓ I do have a great knowledge of ocean yachting. )

    • @SailingTipsCa
      @SailingTipsCa  5 месяцев назад

      Foiling boats are very weight sensitive so you’d be limited to hauling things like feathers and helium balloons!

  • @IsaacKuo
    @IsaacKuo Год назад

    I do wonder about a wind powered vehicle which is basically a glider tethered to a supercavitating torpedo. The "sailor" might be slung under the tether rather than being inside the torpedo.
    This vehicle would be able to sail in either direction, and you could use figure 8 kite sailing techniques in weaker wind conditions or higher waves.

    • @SailingTipsCa
      @SailingTipsCa  Год назад +1

      I think that may be kind of what these guys are going for? syro.co/en/speed-record/

    • @IsaacKuo
      @IsaacKuo Год назад

      @@SailingTipsCa Oh wow, yeah that's the idea! I was thinking of something less sophisticated, without a streamlined crew pod. Just something very minimal like a kite surfing rig. But you don't need to have a surfboard, and there's a second tether attached to your back, going to the torpedo. Or something like that.

  • @edfrawley4356
    @edfrawley4356 Год назад +1

    Like a land speed record car Sailrocket has been purpose built to do one thing very very well at the cost of being useless at just about everything else. At this point in humanity's technological development this is true for many endeavors as the technology involved matures and we start reaching limits which only the uniquely specialized can reach.

    • @SailingTipsCa
      @SailingTipsCa  Год назад

      Yes, as with many things specialization is required to reach the limits, but then you compromise general usability. Everything in sailing is a compromise!!!

  • @347Jimmy
    @347Jimmy Год назад +1

    Speed record vehicles often require special modification and a specific place to let rip
    I'll pay it, even if it doesn't qualify as a usable boat for any other purpose

    • @SailingTipsCa
      @SailingTipsCa  Год назад +1

      Yup that’s pretty much how it is in all speed record vehicles of almost any type!

  • @tedarcher9120
    @tedarcher9120 21 день назад +1

    What is the fastest sail thing that can go both ways?

    • @SailingTipsCa
      @SailingTipsCa  21 день назад

      Great question - here’s the current listing in speed order: en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Speed_sailing_record. So after Sailrocket 2 come a bunch of kite boards with the next fastest “boat” that can sail an arbitrary course being L’Hydroptere.

  • @argentum530
    @argentum530 Год назад

    Not a sailboat then but a sail dragster! Still cool and going faster than the other guy is what it's all about.

    • @SailingTipsCa
      @SailingTipsCa  Год назад

      Pretty much! And you can’t drive your top fuel dragster to the supermarket either!

  • @vndk36
    @vndk36 Год назад

    Hello, great video about a unconventional way of using foils! Their is also now, SP80 and Siroco sail teams that are trying to break this speed record with 2 very different approaches if you want to have a look

    • @SailingTipsCa
      @SailingTipsCa  Год назад +1

      Yes definitely an exciting time with different groups going for the record!

  • @BrewsterMcBrewster
    @BrewsterMcBrewster Год назад +1

    Answer to thumbnail caption:
    ...by sailing very fast!

  • @jakobtob7350
    @jakobtob7350 Год назад +1

    Shouldn't it be possible to have both conventional foils and super-cavitating foils on a boat and switch them on higher speeds? I mean todays boats also have the capability to lift their foils. Or does something speak against that?

    • @SailingTipsCa
      @SailingTipsCa  Год назад

      Yes the ability to swap between low and high speed foils would be just the ticket, just need to find a way to do that which doesn’t add a ton of weight to the boat!

    • @jakobtob7350
      @jakobtob7350 Год назад

      For sure, the weight might be the biggest concern. But maybe we'll see something like that in the future. Would be awesome.

  • @uuzd4s
    @uuzd4s Год назад +1

    Pretty Impressive !

    • @SailingTipsCa
      @SailingTipsCa  Год назад

      I agree - an amazing accomplishment!!!

    • @uuzd4s
      @uuzd4s Год назад +1

      @@SailingTipsCa I fly Radio Control Gliders and getting energy from the wind hasn't all been figured out yet. You want to be amazed, do a Yt search for Dynamic Soaring vid's. These R/C gliders take up to 40g's and do speeds 8 x faster than the prevailing wind. It was discovered by a Lockheed Martin "Skunkworks" engineer by accident when he flew over the ridge top into the swirling wind on the back side of the hill and came out much faster than the wind he was getting lift from on the front side. I went to a Dynamic Soaring event on the coast of Oregon and watched them hit 250mph in a 23 mph wind.

    • @SailingTipsCa
      @SailingTipsCa  Год назад +1

      @@uuzd4s Others have mentioned dynamic soaring as well - I’m still trying to wrap my head around it!!!

    • @uuzd4s
      @uuzd4s Год назад +1

      @@SailingTipsCa Hadn't done so in a while so I just did a YT search on Dynamic soaring. They just hit 548mph with sustained speeds over 500mph on a 7ft wingspan R/C Glider. The prevailing winds were around 35mph coming up the hill. Most the video doesn't follow a Glider that well at those speeds w/ a handheld camera but there's some of it good enough to WoW ya. Anyways, just more expensive toys to play with I guess. Take Care.

    • @SailingTipsCa
      @SailingTipsCa  Год назад +1

      @@uuzd4s That’s amazing - I’ll look that up thanks!!!

  • @AdventureDriver
    @AdventureDriver Год назад

    I did some windsurfing at Walvis bay, it's fantastic!

    • @SailingTipsCa
      @SailingTipsCa  Год назад

      That must have been a cool experience!

    • @AdventureDriver
      @AdventureDriver Год назад

      @@SailingTipsCa yeah; flat water, blistering wind, sunny and seals as company.

    • @SailingTipsCa
      @SailingTipsCa  Год назад

      @@AdventureDriver It would be an amazing experience!

  • @fonwoolridge
    @fonwoolridge Год назад

    Cool! Good explanations too!

    • @SailingTipsCa
      @SailingTipsCa  Год назад

      I think it’s a pretty cool boat, and glad you liked the video too!

  • @CharlesBrianMoore
    @CharlesBrianMoore Год назад +1

    Cool, way cool... ❤❤❤ 😊

  • @writerconsidered
    @writerconsidered Год назад

    I think it comes down to one thing water is a solid for all practical purposes. And combining a solid with a gas (air) is going to limit the the physics you can break to achieve these high speed sail boats.

    • @SailingTipsCa
      @SailingTipsCa  Год назад

      Even with foils the drag from the water is far higher than the blades on an ice boat, or even the wheels of those sand sailing buggies!

  • @JosephMelia
    @JosephMelia Год назад

    Perhaps a type of hydrofoil that changes it's shape based on the craft's speed could be developed. It could be composed of Solid rollers, mounted on actuators. wrapped in a deformable waterproof material, such as rubber..The actuators could be activated by digital or analogue means, real time. so that once cavitation begins to occur, the foil changes from tear drop to wedge.
    Send me a cheque, we're good.

  • @critical_always
    @critical_always Год назад

    That is insane. How cool that people actually bother to build their designs anyway

    • @SailingTipsCa
      @SailingTipsCa  Год назад +1

      And then ship them to Namibia and risk their necks far away from home!

  • @mprice323
    @mprice323 Год назад +1

    IIRC, land speed rules say your final result is the average of two runs, one in each direction, with a maximum turnaround time. Is there anything like that for sailing? What's the equivalent rule on the water?

    • @SailingTipsCa
      @SailingTipsCa  Год назад +1

      Here are the rules for 500m, which is one of the records held by Sailrocket 2, the other being one nautical mile. I think the bidirectional thing with land-based records is to cancel out the effects of wind, however sailing records are trying to harness the wind. www.sailspeedrecords.com/the-course-of-500-m

  • @leofriedwald9901
    @leofriedwald9901 Год назад

    Love your videos, but can you include more data on the wind speed and sea state etc at the time these records were set? Thanks, and keep up the good work 🙂

    • @SailingTipsCa
      @SailingTipsCa  Год назад +2

      Yes should have included that! Sailrocket 2 broke the 500 and nautical mile records at Walvis Bay in November 2012, with the wind at 25-30 knots. The sailing area is in the lee of a sand bar so sea state is negligible, hence the location. Hope this helps!

  • @afriendofafriend5766
    @afriendofafriend5766 Год назад

    75!!! miles per hour? Literally how? That's crazy.

  • @KillroyX99
    @KillroyX99 Год назад

    I wonder if there are other foil designs that can avoid cavitation

    • @SailingTipsCa
      @SailingTipsCa  Год назад

      Yes there are as described in this paper: www.marinepropulsors.com/proceedings/2015/MB2-3.pdf
      You can also do a Google search for "supercavitating foil" to find more!

  • @martinwinther6013
    @martinwinther6013 Год назад +1

    Vestas was the danish team, right?

    • @SailingTipsCa
      @SailingTipsCa  Год назад +1

      Vestas as the title sponsor is a Danish company that manufactures wind turbines, but the SailRocket team is actually quite international: Paul Larson who piloted SailRocket is Australian, other team members are also from around the globe, much of the design and testing took place in the UK, and the actual record was broken in Namibia! Check out their website for more details: www.sailrocket.com

  • @JohnStenborg
    @JohnStenborg Год назад

    …sailing unlimited…i like it…always in whatever elite sport i participated…training for decades and competing…always the unlimited classes…closer to the restriction of nature…and human capabilites…i like that…

    • @SailingTipsCa
      @SailingTipsCa  Год назад

      It can be fun to test the boundaries of things!!!

  • @Prototheria
    @Prototheria 2 месяца назад +1

    "Literally." What, as opposed to metaphorically?