No, Lots of Comics Weren’t Racist
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- Опубликовано: 13 сен 2024
- No, Lots of Comics Weren’t Racist
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Comics have literally been one of the most progressive mediums for years, and now we're just going to pretend all of that never happened? Give me a break
It wasn't progressive enough?
Compare Sonequa Martin-Green being described in one infamous article as "The first black lead in Star Trek." I wonder how Avery Brooks (Benjamin Sisko, Deep Space 9) felt when he read that.
@@Ensign_Cthulhu Damn that DS9 captain had a honey voice. Just a pleasure to hear him speak.
Just because they've been progressive, that doesn't make them Progressive (yes, the capitalisation makes all the difference,) and just because a character is black, a woman, gay, trans, etc., it doesn't guarantee that they'll be accepted by these kinds of Twitter freaks as long as they're being actually interesting characters instead of espousing lectures about how straight white cis men are Satan himself.
You can have a character in media be non-white, female, gay or transgender and when put into the right creator's hands, they can be turned into something great; but these kinds of people we see beating comic book and cartoon fans over the head repeated with "Unless you agree with me, you're a bad person!" all the time don't care about making a good product everyone can enjoy, they only care what gets them Twitter likes, even when the people they've been pandering to don't actually support their work outside of virtual back-patting without actually spending a dime on them.
The SJW contradiction #69420:
"Stop whining. Comics were always diverse and inclusive!!" Vs. "Yes, comics were always racist and problematic and we need to change them!!"
Give them a few years, then they'll claim Japan is culturally appropriating their art style.
If this is the level of quality the American comic book industry is delivering then my personal project will be assured
It's better than current day Marvel/DC.
I know, I know... That's an unbelievably low bar to clear...
Japan must be protected from the rest of the western world’s dumbassery.
Dude don't give them ideas.
@@DonVigaDeFierro its beter than nothing
I love it when each generation comes into the world and starts pretending like what they're doing has never been done before
It's both irritating and amusing at the same time.
some of us have both the grace and the intelligence to shut up and learn from our elders....................then there are these idiots
I love it when a self entitled little shit thinks that what they're doing will go down in history books
They are putting alot of self importance on themselves. Their making comics.
@@KAFLUKA social media has bred a fuck ton of narcissists who think they are more important than they are
Like a lot of the so called “modern” haircuts. When they have all been around for centuries.
as a white person that grew up in a poor neighborhood in west Philly I related to shows like fresh prince and static shock not because they were BLACK but because they were PEOPLE who had similar experiences that I myself had/was going through. it's almost like there can be more to characters than the color of their skin. crazy, i know.
Economic level and region is far more determinant of life experience than skin tone.
@@galahad3195 so true but now it's all about identity politics
@@galahad3195 but skin tone has historically been a thing that has largely determined the socioeconomic status of people
@Wolver101
Brutha, that's why I related to Peter Parker, despite being a black guy. Didn't matter that he was white, he was a soft spoken, confidence lacking, nerdy kid who grew up in an urban neighborhood like me.
Also you grew up in West Philly? No wonder you liked Fresh Prince, whereas I enjoyed it for the comedy.
Wasn't static even AIMED toward all types of poor people? I liked him for him, he just happens to be black.
I am a 51 year old black man who has read comics all my life. I growed up reading Christopher priest run on conan. At the time I didn't know the race of the writer, I only knew that I liked it.
Black panther had always been one of favorite characters and captain America was not the same without falcon (i had both mego dolls). And ironfist wasn't the same without Luke cage.
I grew up on spawn, blade, Goliath Gabriel Jones, storm , cyborg and stalker and roadblock from gi Joe. Not to mention a great run with Rhodey taking over the iron man suit while Tony stark battled alchol.
But according to this article all that time I was reading a racist medium which was infesting their poison on the youth of America. Come to think of it I do recall a being in a store where a young white boy was frantically trying to find a bishop xmen action figures. It being systemically racist country I am sure he was wearing a pair of Jordan's at the time.
Thank goodness for the new batch of woke writers and artists who are saving us from those regressive days and characters that everyone , black or white liked.
Roadblock was always my favorite Joe!!!
The sarcasm is dripping off your last few sentences.
Amen.
That was some top-notch, snarky, sarcasm! Thanks for the great read!
I appreciated this.
When I saw the justice league fighting lex luthor or the avengers fighting Hydra or AIM I never once thought "This saving the world doesn't look very...inclusive". If it's a good story, it's a good story. The race of the writers is irrelevant.
One of the things that scares me: as people keep silencing speech, and more and more writers fail to live up to the epic talent of the past, how many kids are going to grow up with the very false belief that only white men can have writing talent?
@@andyz2861 EXACTLY. These people are real racists.
@@andyz2861 Dwayne mcduffie basically created my childhood and gave me a glimpse of what dc comics had to offer and I dived right in everything he’s written I binged JL JLU Ben 10 justice league doom justice league crisis on two earth what’s new scooby doo the actual teen Titans static shock and I’m white as the moon with a little peach color painted on for color when it comes to comics race shouldn’t fucking matter what matters is the characters the stories the art and the writing and still marvel nor dc can get that write although dc comics isn’t as bad as Warner bros dc films
@@jackratscratpack9323 Nah, sadly DC too is a lost cause. RIP Mark Waids Flash.
When I read a book I like, I don't think about "i'm so happy this was writen by a [insert race] [Insert gender]."
I only think "I like this".
"The bigger the company gets, the better the IP gets."
I guess Rooster Teeth didn't get the message.
Lol nice
@@harleyengland3914 I would have said Disney but that's a bit obvious.
As a former RT fan, I felt that
@@Eothr Same hey brother.
I will never forgive them for fucking up RWBY and not following the original plot.
Coffee, driving in the morning, listening to the smooth sounds of JSG. The simple things
I thought you were listing racist things
Good choice of writing
I missed it. These long videos made my commute to work so much nicer.
Listening on my bike ride commute ^.^
Life is what we make of it. The Lord has given us many good things, along with the bad.
That's what they did with Static? That actually hurts me, I feel that in my damn heart. Everyone in my neighborhood loved Static, regardless of your skin color, you read comics? You liked Static. Particularly when he got his own show on The WB.
This is just... pitiful. Man I need a drink.
Personally I liked him more than black lighting. Though it was probably because I was a kid when I was reading static comics....but they messed with my boy.
Static Shock was created by Dwayne McDuffy, one of the greatest creators. If you like Static Shock, I recomend other Milestone Comics as well. Blood Syndicate was like "X-Men by way of Boyz in da Hood" the day to day drama of a super power street gang. It was diverse but it was'nt forced.
It's weird, 80% of my exposure to X-Men came from the cartoon and I still understand it better than that guy he quoted.
That’s because the cartoon was good.
Comic weren't really racist , in fact they were extremely progressive and risked cancelation due to the writers wanting to teach tolerance and virtues, hell ive seen more racist heroes come out from today's comics
Thanks assholes! You teach tolerance, this is what you get. Excelsior!
Those tend not to be heroes, most of the new generation of "superheroes" you have end up bring angry Progressive teens attacking people they simply don't like and because they have a "Hi, I'm a good guy!" badge, that's enough to prove they're heroes in spite of their actions being pretty villainous.
The Ministry of Truth produces nothing but lies, AntiFa use fascist behaviour to attack "fascists," and Progressive comic book characters are villains calling themselves heroes - "Fear is freedom! Subjugation is liberation! Contradiction is truth! Those are the facts of this world, and you will all surrender to them, you pigs in human clothing!"
@@SirFailsalot91 pretty much
@@SirFailsalot91 So, Waid and Kwanza's "Ignited"...
It used to be centrist
Captain America commie smasher
Black panther vs kkk
Now comics been one sided
I’m whiter than a communion wafer and I remember getting up on Saturday mornings to watch the Static cartoon. I didn’t give a damn about the races of the characters, the designs were cool and Static actually had a really interesting power set.
Static shock was the shit on Saturday mornings followed by freakazoid
This
Same friend!
As a kid, Static was right up there with Spider-man for me. Great character, awesome powers and really cool villains.
@@nathanstultz3434
You say that but I always thought DC made Static as a counter to Spiderman TAS.
I miss Static Shock. Remember when they tackled Racism way better than current comics in the Static Shock Cartoon? Richie's dad was a huge racist and seeing him walk and talk with Virgil's dad was great. He didn't completely change, but they came to an understanding.
That's probably because in the mind of SJWs, racism is the worst crime ever and it's entirely unforgivable. To bring it into perspective in 2015 Hulk Hogan got caught saying the gamer word in private (He even says "If you are a hard working black person then I love you"), since then Hogan has apologized multiple times, apologized to the roster and more than made up for it. SJWs on Twitter still act like he's Hitler anytime WWE brings him up. Meanwhile in 2002 Stone Cold roided out one night and smacked his wife around and the Twitter weirdos have crickets whenever he's brought up. SJWs basically think saying a no-no word is worse than domestic violence (Personally I think both of them made a mistake but have grown and moved on and shouldn't be held to their past sins anymore)
In the mind of SJWs, if you were a racist or even had any racist thoughts, you are unredemable, you are unsavable, you are lost. It's not about "Let's get this Klansman to reject his ways" to them it's about "Let's bully this kid who said the gamer word when he was 6 and didn't even know it was bad into suicide".
Yo this is exactly what I was thinking about while watching this
@@ChrisSuperDude Granted, domestic violence is infinitely worse than saying a word people might find racist even with context. I'm surprised the roles aren't reversed.
Miles Morales is a Static Shock Wannabe but society its not ready for this conversation.
@@chickensoupboi I agree but my thing is that it was 20 years ago so the same way I don't think Hogan should still be crucified for saying the word, I don't think people should still crucify Stone Cold for smacking Debra around
Blade the movie came out in the 90's and was immediately an instant classic, worldwide. I'm black African, and i feel like this current woke trend in America that is using race in everything, will backfire on black actors and creators because many people in the audience will start to automatically question if it's because of wokeism when they'll see black characters on the screen in the future.
Will backfire? Hello. Nobody looks at black anything without assuming affirmative action waa involved. I just can't understand why blacks want more of this. They should feel insulted and treated as less than. I would be outraged if the entire world treated me like a short bus kid.
@@imaplant2868 Omg same! I aspire to be a show director, particularly an animated show director, and my main protagonist is black. But I'm afraid people will only praise my work ONLY because the protagonist is black. Like I want you to tell me OTHER reasons you like my work. Did you like the character development? How about the lore sprinkled throughout the show? World building? Don't patronize me and give me a star on my forehead and saying "Good job!" Critique my work like you would critique any other director's work. I'm not a baby. Give me REAL feedback for my work so that I can grow and improve in my medium!
Unfortunately already happening
I'm as white as can be, and I LOVED Blade, all 3 movies. I had never heard of the comic character or read any of it, I was just immediately hooked! Such an interesting world, and an awesome character!
Anything that looks woke i stay away from until a bunch of people let me know that its not
"Ebony Flowers' "Hot Comb" explores black women's relationships with their hair. " -- That line floored me!
My favorite comic book characters were wolverine, omega red, Sabretooth, batman, and superman, and didn't give a damn about their race as a black kid growing up in the ghetto.
Race doesn't matter. What does is quality!
Is it as infuriating as I imagine that the new black superheroes have to stay in the poor areas of the city and don’t get to do awesome stuff like going to outer space or other dimensions? Or do you just not even bother with modern comics?
@@andyz2861 not true. What about black green lantern. (Dont know his actual name) that lantern is regarded as the best lantern usually, better than hal Jordan, and has gone on many adventures and trips. What your saying is not necessarily fact!
@@dinoguy6177 He’s been around since the 70s, back when characters would do things like go off into space because the writers had actual talent. According to the woke crowd, he doesn’t exist.
@@dinoguy6177 John Stewart, dude started with a huge racist chip on his shoulder, spent years in a vegetative state until being used by a mad Guardian to kidnap entire cities (every city on Earth or other worlds Stewart ever used his powers to save) from their worlds to keep him company. Got very little exposure even among us diehard GL fans until the Justice League cartoon.
I always preferred Black Lightning back then, back when he still got mad at people who thought the Black in his name was because of his race, until a writer that took over who thought the same (writers being handed characters they know nothing about isn’t new) made it so, before that he was Black Lightning because...wait for it...he had black lightning powers, as in his Lightning was black in color. He got them in an accident in a college (which he had a full ride scholarship to thanks to being a friggin science genius) lab doing an infinite energy experiment, tapping into the DC equivalent of Marvel’s “Darkforce Dimension”.
I didn't know they ruined Virgil with a reboot that completely changed his character. I'm white and Static was one of my favorite heroes. Honestly he was like the Spider-Man of DC in how he chose to be a good person because of his family relations and actively gave his villians a chance to change out of empathy.
Exactly. I'm white as hell and from the backwoods. By these people's logic I should have never liked Static Shock as a kid. It was one of my favorite cartoons growing up, right up there with Spider-Man.
That's a good point he is basically spiderman of DC.
Static is Milestone's character not DC's.
@@Wonder2win yeah but didn’t DC buy Milestone?
@@lucapeyrefitte6899 No. They only have a licensing agreement with them.
"The past is a foreign country. They do things differently there." - LP Hartley.
Wish we could move there
Now where did this line of thinking go in society?
“The Shadow that bred them can only mock, it cannot make: not real things of its own. I don't think it gave life to the orcs, it only ruined them and twisted them.”
Tolken knew what evil was, and it's fascinating how accurate his depiction of it is to the SJW/Woke today.
@@Sorain1 This idea seems to have been turning more prevalent in the past few years.
So Static is basically an evil psychopath now. Got it. As a wise man once said: "The moment you think you have the right to decide who lives and who dies, who's life has value and who's doesn't, you become evil."
You either die as a hero or live enough to become a villain
Woketivist Static is never Static. It is a monster wearing him. Truth and facts
@@skyhound2889
Razor from DOTA 2 would punish Karen Danvers, and other woke corrupted characters with his Static link and his whip.
SKIP WOKE ACTIVISTS SERIOUSLY,
I'm thinking of episodes of Fresh Prince where Will is expressing his enthusiasm for Spider-Man.
Yeah. Growing up, race was frankly irrelevant. to anything really: pop culture, dating, politics, whatever. Only recently is it suddenly an issue. I'm in my 30s: I remember when things werent this fricken STUPID.
@@kungfuskull This.
@@kungfuskull nah, it was always relevant, people werd just ignorant
@@eniltonrogerio3169 no, we weren't ignorant. We stopped making a big deal out of it. We *actually* progressed, as opposed to what "progressives" are doing by *increasing* divisions!
@@kungfuskull We didn't progress, not really, most of the issues related to race that existed in the 80s and 90s are still there, you just pretend they don't exist, and that's ignorance
I sometimes miss the days when being into nerd culture would get you bullied.
Now the bullies are trying to fuck it.
@@nobodyshome6792
^ This. Right. Here.
A shitty thing but it sure as hell worked for gatekeeping those who don't have passion out.
Sad ain't it? First they bully us for liking this stuff, then they see it getting popular and try to bully their way back in while kicking us out.
Yeah...I was bullied for liking comics, Video games and anime/manga where at least we won't have these kind of moronic stuff...*sighs* Now its popular and they bully us to get out of the stuff we love from the start.
The Static Shock cartoon was my jam as a kid. I lost my shit when he showed up in the Justice League cartoon.
Yeah having him and Terry in the show made me freak out as a kid.
Same. Loved Static Shock. This is the first I've heard about a revamp. I will NOT be reading it.
Blade was actually the 1st blockbuster Marvel Superhero film. And it came out in the late 90's.
Let's not forget Spawn who came out a year earlier.
@@megamanxhunter Yeah, though it was Image comics more than Marvel.
@@barriolimbas And also not a blockbuster film
White guy here, Static Shock was my favorite cartoon growing up and I've wanted him to come back for a long time. This new version makes me so sad
But I'm not white guy
I grew up watching the tv show, loved it! Seeing how they changed Static Shock and his origin is just stupid.
In other words. these brave comic creators know nothing about Milestone Comics.
Lol I know! If it was racist Milestone would've NEVER got off the ground lol!
Those were some great comics and amazing characters that sadly aren't getting used because these racists want to appropriate everything for them and leave nothing for everyone else.
I still enjoy icon and rocket in milestone classic comics (don't like DC absorbing them as they did, oh well) and of course, static. I personally liked the character "tec-9"(his ability was that whatever gun he held always had ammo - such a 1990s power)
@@donnerblitzen1388 THIS!!! Tec was a "G" an "OG" infact pretty sure Dogg thought so too. Used to love both of hem. That said when he challenged and beat Wise son for leadership how on earth did he win against some one that was invulnerable?
Or comics in general because it's made by European descents. REEEEEEEEEE!
@@JennySparkz lmao that always bothered me too about the Tech 9/Wise Son fight! Same thing when Tech fought Holocaust lol!
They turned Virgil into a super powered school shooter like the Ignited villains they call heroes? Static Shock spent a good chunk of his time *stopping* other kids who got powers in the incident from using them to attack other people in the school.
His name is just Static. Static Shock is the name of the cartoon.
@@symbiote1982pk Right, right, my brain just auto does that because I used to watch it all the time with my nephews.
They did what to static?! Why can't we just have nice things because they're nice?
My favourite episode of the Static Shock cartoon was that one where a kid gets bullied so much that he gets a gun to shoot his bullies. It focused on how much Virgil hates Gun Violence because his Mother was shot. But it also focused heavily on how school shooters are created by people ignoring bullying issues. The best depiction of Virgil is the kid whom hates guns and goes far out of his way to support people so they never need to resort to gun violence.
@@handsoapinc And he’d never decide to electric chair a classmate to death (only stopping because, according to his own thoughts, people could see and would think badly of him) no matter how bad a bully they were. Do a few laps dangling him about five stories up while telling him to stop bullying, but not friggin fry them.
"There have been no black characters in comic books."
Damn, well Blade, Static Shock, Black Panther, Meteor Man, Storm, Luke Cage, and all the other amazing iconic black superheroes never existed. Must've imagined them I guess.
Dammit, why does everyone always forget my man Everett Thomas a.k.a Synch. @:^}
Mr. Terrific is an awesome character that doesn't get enough screen time or good writers.
John stewart
Spawn cyborg well their not black characters actually their just characters who happens to be black
@@tambaykaynero8815 wat
... don't let the voice fool you, I'm old, I was there
- JSG 2021
I dimly remember a older video saying he was like, in his forties, cant remember the video though, all I remember is "WTF? how do you have such a buttery smooth voice?"
Yeah, because you can't have a buttery smooth voice in your forties. Right.
@@blazichaos7181 not chainsmoking and getting shitfaced all the time helps a lot.
@@detectivefiction3701 seriously dude
I felt that.
I remember growing up with Blade, Spawn, etc. I still can't believe the cajones of these people claiming that black led comic book movies don't sell.
I think I like the first two blade movie .
I read Blade gave marvel the confidence to make more movies too.
I grew up with Static. Im pasty skinned, but wen i was a kid, all i wanted was to be like Static cuz i thought how cool he was
I actually preferred watching Static over Batman as a kid, and I'm white as well.
I was 1st introduced to Static by the cartoon in the early 2000s. He quickly became my 2nd favorite hero behind Spiderman. Even after starting college I always made sure to set aside time so I could watch new episodes. Felt like it ended way too soon ☹. I'm white and I normally can't get into anything set in the ghetto because I can't identify with how the people treat each other and their communities (in the Hollywood depictions). But Static was just that strong of a character. The kind of guy you'd be proud to know as a hero or as a regular person.
Pasty skinned? So are you light skinned or white? Also why is either relavent?
I would still love to see a team up between Static and Spiderman. Shame that one's Marvel and the other's DC so that's not going to happen.
@@nothanks6039
They're saying the character doesn't have to be the same race as them for them to like the character, which is the opposite of what wokoids push.
I hate what they did with Static Shock. I didn't read the comics growing up because I can't find them where I live. So the only way I found out about him is through the animated series. I liked watching him not because of his race, he was a cool hero and his story arcs were interesting and fun. That's it.
Where do you live? You clearly have Internet access so I'm baffled as to why you can't just buy the comics online, or pirate them if that's more your cup of tea.
@@symbiote1982pk Is it that strange of a concept that some people didn't have local comic shops or computers growing up? You did read him saying "growing up", right?
@@symbiote1982pk In southeast Asia. It's hard to get things like comic books from overseas. It would cost a lot to get them shipped. There were no comic book shops near me either.
Same here! He was never a 'cool black superhero' to. No, he was just cool and happened to be black :=)
Same here. I loved superheroes, but the only comics I had access to were Mickey Mouse, Lucky Luke, Asterix etc.
She doesn't seem to mention Monica or Storm leading their own teams either. Big suprise.
Those are some Stunningly Brave BLINDERS they got!
XD
Anything before 2015 didn't exist until the woke SJW weirdos "created" them recently. That's how their "history" works.
@@Ramsey276one it reminds me when they were saying Black Panther the first comic book movie with a black actor as the lead. Ok, what about Spawn and Blade?
Also the lethal weapon movies. One of the main characters in those was a black actor. Also the rush movies once a black actor was a main character and Irobot with will Smith once again will Smith main lead and the entire cast of the wiz was black people and that movie did insanely well and people still love that movie.
The incorrect grammar in the title of that first article already has me on tilt...
Oh hello there
Growing up, race was frankly irrelevant. to anything really: pop culture, dating, politics, whatever. Only recently is it suddenly an issue. I'm in my 30s: I remember when things werent this fricken STUPID.
Mid-40s here, and SAME. I am SO TIRED of this crap! Can't we all just try to work together anymore?
Chad Boseman (rip) died on the birthday of Jack Kirby (resting in peace now that Marvel pays for & finally regard his legacy)
I always found that kinda amazing
Wow. Today I learned something really interesting.
Kirby: Good to meet you!
Boseman: ...that’s a HUGE TABLE...
Stan Lee : it’s HEAVEN! We can all hear each other, like in comics!
XD
@@Ramsey276one I can genuinely imagine Lee saying that lol
I guess the legacy of Dwayne McDuffie and the work of Milestone/Dakota-verse is just an unheard myth to those outlets
Sad. I actually enjoyed Icon back in the day.
It just proves that they do not actually know the Industry they work in
They probably don't know who Larry Houston is.
I was just thinking how INSULTING it is for them to claim they did all this on their own, now that McDuffie is gone and can't tell their dumb asses off. Static was one of my favorite characters as a child and I'm white as a polar bear in a blizzard.
Rest in peace, McDuffie and Leone. You are missed.
@@maggiem6209 Amen.
The thing you said about 60s characters being somewhat stereotypical... I actually see a TON of characters written as nothing but hokey stereotypes right now as we speak, moreso than any time in comic book history.
Pretty much , the only "problem "old comics had were being over dramatic and old slang meaning something different today ex: the old batman comics using the term boner
My black soul left my black body when I heard "Diary of a mad Black Werewolf"
Storm is one of the best charactors Marel has. She has been loved by everybody for years.
Literally the moral core of the team.
I certainly loved her when I collected X-Men in the 1980's, and I still do. (Don't get me started on Halle Berry's interpretation of the character.)
I've heard rumors that they're writing her as a racist now. I've said it before and I'll say it again: I will not pollute my mind with such apocryphal trash, and I don't even want to hear the details of it.
She is safe with me.
When I was a small kid, I watched the Batman series and cartoons.
I wanted to become him, not because Batman was white or rich. Just because he is the Batman. I am Asian, anyway.
Whoever try to peddle that comic writers and characters are racists are not really fans. They are here just to sow chaos and see the world on fire.
Despicable af.
Reinventing, making worse, it's such a fine line.
In today's lexicon they mean the same thing.
Reimagining
Reimagining the wheel as a square.
One of my favorite comics artists, Denys Cowan, is black, which I didn't even know until I went to a con and had him and Dennis O'Neil sign my copy of The Question #1 - A series for which Cowan received 2 Eisner nominations in 1988 and 1989.
Denys Cowan is awesome!
I grew up watching the Static Shock tv show, and I loved it. Static was cool and funny, and the show tackled some very heavy subjects; people who struggle with dyslexia, school shootings and how they can start, and yes, even racism.
But seeing what DC comics is doing to the character now is just saddening....
Sad to see what’s happened to Static. I was as unlike him as possible but I still though of him as my favorite hero back in the 2000s.
I'm salute you JSG for reading this. I know you had to read the article at least once or twice before recording the video, and frankly, that seems like a damn chore. Personally, I probably would have gotten a headache from my palms hitting my face and my head shaking so much. Kudos to you my good sir!
Two words: John Stewart; Green Lantern.
Exactly. Read the issue where Stewart becomes Jordan’s back-up Green Lantern (Green Lantern/Green Arrow #87). Stewart wasn’t created to be a token character. He had depth and was an interesting character and still is.
@@DoctorPhobos I loved his character on the animated justice league. Particularly when he confronts Vandal Savage without his power ring in the Savage Time. He fights him as a man, because he's a marine first, and a green lantern second. ruclips.net/video/GfwSUSUKNEI/видео.html
Cyborg, Steel, Falcon, War Machine...
@@DoctorPhobos honestly introducing non white characters as minor characters and then elevating them is much better.
Take a look at cyborg. He simply started appearing in several DC teams and eventually became a recognisable black Character.
Grew up with this guy in justice League , it was wierd seeing a white green lantern, but I rolled with it, right now guy Gardner is one of my favourites
I admit most of my superhero experience comes from cartoons rather than comics, and I'm sure the nostalgia glasses are strong, but Static Shock was one of my favorite shows. Now they've turned one of my favorite characters into someone that would hate me, WTF?
I pray that hasn't happened with John Stewart. Although something tells me it already has.
4:42 FINALLY!!!! A comic about a woman’s relationship with her hair!! What took the comic book industry so long to finally get to the riveting stories the audience has been craving?
I don't know if you weave it right you could tell some pretty interesting tales with gossip in stories
I think it's actually a horror film about a weave that kills the person wearing it...i saw a couple previews.
Medusa of the Inhumans. Yes, that has been done too.
“Don’t let the voice fool you. I’m old. I was there.” I feel you man, thanks for the smile, I’m still wearing it.
Very fitting that I’m more educated about social relevancy from JSG then bias social media garbage
Oh my god I can’t take this anymore, there’s a point where you go far beyond speaking facts, and you JUST SOME GUY have reached it. Absolute GOAT
To quote Bart Simpson: "Birds won't even use this in their NESTS!"
Your videos are among my favourite things on RUclips and I respect your honesty and integrity. As a 50 year old (former) comic book reader I was really impressed with the points you made here and the way you made them.
I'm 40 years old and I remember going to the grocery store with my mom, and would go straight to the magazine isle just to read comic books. Whatever I was interested in at the time.. I miss those days. Comics were good back then. Keep your head up bro, I know I'm trying.
When they say "...With a focus on Africa before slavery." Do they mean the East African slave trade or the Trans Atlantic slave trade? Before Mansa Musa and the Mali Empire?
I mean of course they are well aware that Slavery was around in West and Central Africa LONG before any Europeans stepped foot in there..
Great point!
The first good Marvel movie had a black protagonist, and nobody cared.
Andy Z Blade? Those first two movies were great.
@@Avarn388 Blade, yes. Wesley Snipes rocked it.
Trouble is, the general public doesn't really see Blade as a Marvel film these days because it's so disconnected in time and storyline from the magnificent spread of the MCU. Now if you want to talk about what fans of action movies thought of the character, well... when Wesley Snipes is on his game he does badass so fucking well it isn't funny, and I don't think there was anyone else who could have pulled Blade off as well as he did. Maybe Laurence Fishburne. MAYBE.
@@Ensign_Cthulhu Oh it was funny! He had some really great comedic faces right in the middle of the fight scene if I recall correctly.
Aparently everything was racist in the past and i never noticed. I am from South America and most people here were fan of Spiderman, Goku, Yusuke Urameshi, Power Rangers and Static Shock (here he was called Super Shock), most people here did not care where they came from. The only color we care about who would be the red ranger when we were playing (well, before Tommy show up and everybody wanted to be the green ranger).
people will love other peopes stories but they start moving in mass and taking jobs and other things like crime thats when it become a problem
Yeah everybody was hanging and chilling over here as well until the dragonzord showed up. I remember wanting one at the time but I never got it. The four separate times I went to the store they were all out.
yeah, we always argued over who got to be obi wan when we played star wars....
I remember how triggered all the whities got when the Red Turbo Ranger was black.
Oh wait.
What have they done to Static? Look how they've massacred my boy.
Im actually tearing up from hearing what they doing to Static.
man that sucks, Static is one of my favorites. I was hyped to see in Young Justice, hoped for a solid resurgence... and the wokemon trainers how to up and ruin him. a damn shame man, a damn shame.
He didn't really show up in young justice tho. Like, I remember maybe 2 or 3 episodes with him in them but he was like, kinda in the background. Was super disappointed.
@@whitemoonwolf13 we should probably see more of him in season 4. After all he is one of the greatest heroes in the future
The severity of actions needed to qualify as racist has lowered tremendously, yet the severity of punishment has remained exactly the same, if not increased. This is dangerous
It has disappeared entirely.
So much so, that to prove you aren't "racist" one must in fact BE "racist".
I'm so disappointed with the new vergal, he was one of my most favorite heros growing up.
I Read the older comics and watched the show, I'm irish/german so I'm as white as can be, doesn't mean I couldn't relate to him.
I’ve had to make a tough decision in recent years. If I know a musician/artist/director is black, then I look away. That isn’t for me. I respect their humanity too much to appropriate their work.
As YoungrRippa59 said, the reason the iconic characters are timeless isn't because they're white, because people threw better writers at them to be as creative as possible so they endured since they didn't feel like they had to put pet writers or stories around them to tell stories from a single experience. If people focus on writing the best stories they can, people will identify with characters regardless of their gender or ethnic background. Spiderman for example is relateable because he's an everyman, not because he's white.
Quality art transcends any group of people. I've identified with an alien robot that transforms into a truck. I've seen the world through the eyes of a female bounty hunter to kills live sucking parasites and uses a alien space suit that morphs into a ball. As an eldest son, I identified with the plight of an african warrior king who had to pick up the pieces of his family after his father died. I'm none of those things, but I see myself with in the hero with a 1000 faces.
So true!
YOU are a treasure! I wish more people understood the things you said, and could express it even HALF as well as you did!
Note to others: the book "The Hero with a Thousand Faces" , by Joseph Campbell, is an excellent resource for understanding Humanity's way of thinking and storytelling about our heroes. Well worth the read, if a little lesser known.
@@kateshiningdeer3334 Thanks for your wonderful feedback. The more people that can understand that it's the quality we seek not the forced diversity we can go back to focusing on better stories and letting writers tell the stories they want to. All this woke nonsense has done is stiffle creavity and produce worse art as a result. It may have started from something well meaning, but it's become it's own counterforce to progress and art.
*“Sticks and stones may break my bones, but there will always be things to offend a wokian”*
The modern version is
"Sticks & stones are peaceful protest but words are literal violence"
@@ericpode6095 😂😂😂
Race hustlers, professional victims two sides of the same coin first comment
Ghhhppptttjhhhyga
Fourth Age just did a video on revenge fantasies in comics.
His channel is so under rated. It's nice to see a fellow subscriber.
Every time I see these articles I think 'do they even know that Spawn is black?" Probably not because it wasn't integral to his character like so many of the other ones they bring up. He was a cultural Icon for a while back in the 90s, not a stereotype, fuckin' awesome. Every boy my age thought Spawn was great and wanted to be him when we were playing with action figures
On one hand, yes in the early 40's during WWII and some other occasions, there actually was some unapologetically racist imagery/propaganda pertaining primarily to Batman, Superman, and Captain America.
On the other hand, comics are arguably one of the most liberal forms of entertainment media.
X-Men are an obvious example with the mutants being a pseudo-allegory for civil rights with the X-Men and Brotherhood acting as the different sides of the civil rights spectrum as moderates and extremists respectively.
Grant Morrison's incredible run on Animal Man had themes of veganism and animal rights before it was cool or mainstream.
Many non-white characters like Cyborg, Bronze Tiger, Katana, Renee Montoya, Cassandra Cain, John Stewart, Black Adam, Ra's Al Ghul, etc. (Can you tell I'm a DC fanboy yet?) weren't solely defined on the basis of race but were developed into fan-favorites that had legitimate humanity and depth to them.
Comics are, have been, and always will be a very progressive medium, but the state it's in now is ridiculous, where race is somehow the only defining factor of a character rather than who they are (with a few notable exceptions like the recently introduced Tim Fox and Yara Flor from Future State, who I actually really liked).
Compare that to now with Ironheart, who's only somewhat redeeming factor is the fact she's a black woman and nothing else, cause Brian Michael Bendis is overrated as shit.
Modern woke comics are just making new skin colors of already existing characters, defining and dehumanizing them solely on that basis. They are not adding anything of legitimate importance and have made it clear they don't care about people of color, they just care about the color. If that isn't racist, I dunno what is.
"...with a focus on Africa before slavery."
So, it is settled in the Jurassic period, then.
He means before the Trans Atlantic slave trade not slavery in general.
“We tried to cash in and have utterly failed.”
Pretty much my friend truer words have never been much spoken.
If they were, trust me you'll know. Most comic & manga aren't subtle(especially old comic has much more narration & internal monologue)
*sigh* its articles like these that makes me miss guys like Dwayne McDuffy who wrote great characters who just happened to be black, characters that appealed to everyone. And yeah, I loved Milestone but they got real racist really quick. Icon had potential and so did Blood Syndicate but they just devolved. Static was the only one that stuck to its guns.
And thank you for bringing up the Morlocks!!! Geez!!
"Stop listening to race hustlers, they know not of what they speak."
- Just Some Guy
I am white and i loved vergal when i was a kid. Now he would kill me because i am white!😱 Its really sad he was so relatable to youth to day in a way peter parker can't. Bring back my static!
"Ta-Nehisi Goebbels", LMAO! I had to rewind to be sure I heard that right. Savage!
He's used that one before and it totally cracked me up
I laughed so hard, I nearly spat out my soda.
That and Fake Holiday are some of my favorites. JSG is ruthless and I love it.
So there's no representation in comics? Funny, I remember back in the 90's that Milestone comics was a thing. You know the creators of Static Shock.
3:36 Looks like a cross between Naruto, Avatar: the Last Airbender, and Tutenstein.
I miss Tutenstein.
@Tristan
My dad said that too when it showed it to me. Dunno why it's gotta get dragged through the mud like this.
Looks more like a laughing stock to me
Static shock was one of my favourite Cartoons when I was young, and it was what got me into comics. I'm sad to see what it has become.
If your market is less than 50% less than 20% of the population, releasing it Online or in the Appendix of another comic would be the best strategy then releasing a short print Omnibus of the completed series later for people that missed an issue or want a complete collection.
I've always respected Shonen Jump for this strategy and a few American comics from the 80's did this too.
When Stan Lee and Jack Kirby co-created Black Panther they created a character that would pass the test of time. Today's black creators are to hung up on race issues and less on the story and characters they create.
“Marvel, what are you writing?”
“Ironheart, a story about a girl who steals the suit of an awesome superhero and starts using it to fight crime.”
“Uhhh...DC?”
“Batwoman!”
“Does she steal her suit too?”
“OMG how did you know?”
Christopher Priest's Black Panther 90s run further built upon the character.
You know it's bad when, on cue, JSG and I literally cracked up laughing at the same time 😭😂 but forreal it's an odd thing. I'm all for creating more black/african characters, I think we need more of that but that should be a small PART of who they are (as in, yes the character is black or of African descent but just one factor about them). I myself tend to write black main characters, but their blackness literally doesn't ever come up in the comics. Plus I tend to create my own worlds where something like hatred over skin tone don't exist because it's fuckin stupid 🤦🏿♂️I want to write my shit for everybody, not solely my community. This seems to be a difficult concept for them
Sincerely: good for you. I too am a creator, and have had some bizarre conversations about how you just can't win. I'm a white guy who writes a white protagonist? EVIL! I write a japanese girl protagonist: sexist AND cultural appropriation. I write a goddamn *alien* as the protag and it's "coding for minorities" ....NO! THEYRE JUST INTERESTING PEOPLE WITH STORIES TO TELL! 😡🤦♂️ READ IT FIRST BEFORE SCREECHING: YOU MIGHT ACTUALLY ENJOY IT! 🙄
@@kungfuskull I feel your pain homie, literally wrote a black character who went through a hard past and got told "NO MORE BLACK TRAUMA". You genuinely can't win with these kinds of people no matter what you do, so I fuck it and fuck them. Create whatever you want to create and what you enjoy, the true comic fans will always show up 🙏🏿
@@thawindyking2740 pleasantly, your last statement has turned out true. "Build it and they will come." (Build it *well* too) and yeah, people will share stuff they like. And lol I totally gave up on social media about 5 years ago, and it genuinely felt more healthy and rewarding than when I quit smoking. Good god social media is *awful.*
@@kungfuskull Literally did that yesterday, it's been the most psychologically vexing thing. It's like being in a lair full of starved vampires, I had to leave it. I'm glad you got out and it's helped you become healthy, much blessings to you my friend 🙏🏿
@@kungfuskull I know man! I tried writing a Japanese Mythological series with intertwin with Japanese history (and some anime/manga with bits of video games) but nooo I was labled as sexist for having attractive female Japanese characters AND cultural appropriation for not being fully Japanese but instead being Pakistani.
Like No! I am writing a very decent and amazing story since I actually genuinely love Japanese history, culture and mythology...And sure I love Anime/Manga and video games but damn it at least a lot tell decent stories and have amazing characters which is why they beat current comics today!
Frankly, I'd love to read stories based in Africa or with African roots, but a good story is usually enjoyed by people of all backgrounds. Of course, it's fine to have a target audience but you should always welcome fans that don't fit outside that demographic. Hell, when I told her at a convention that I haven't read one of her works but I'm a big fan of sci-fi, Nnedi Okorafor said to me that she loves it when fans of sci-fi read her work for the first time.
And let's not forget one of my favorite novels, Things Fall Apart. It was about colonization in the last third but it was a good story too.
Black Sands is primarily targeted at black people but, it has other types of customers and hek even white and Asian characters both good guys and bad guys.
And ye I agree everyone should be able to enjoy. Check out Rage of Dragons btw by Evan Winters its awesome that would be an awesome comic or animation film.
Every time I hear about Tyler Perry, I get a flashback of the boondocks episode where they made fun of his movies.
I just want to say, I really appreciate JSG’s absolute dedication in reading women’s voices in that spot on “Karen-esque” tone.
"Challenging stereotypes"
"Here's a comic about black women turning into literal monsters and attacking white people"
Nice job there, independent creators, challenging the stereotype that black people are mostly normal and peaceful.
...oh, that's not a common stereotype? The common stereotype is more like the comic? Well shit.
I have never seen that Vince McMahon clip! 🤣
What was he thinking
@Fullscreen Bossfight “Tell me, I did not just hear that.”
Al there doing is making it harder for writers with talent to break into the industry because everyone will just think. "Oh theres a poc or a women on the cover or who wrote the book its woke nonsense I'm not gonna read it"
I have said this before and gotten into trouble.
If you want to bring people to your cause, don't piss them off.
I love watching all of your videos, but have always had a hard time reading comics in general (something I'm slowly trying to change). I did, however LOVE the comic shows, and hearing you talking about the changes to Static make me want to cry. It was and is one of my absolute favorite shows.
"Lots of comics were racist."
Static Shock, Steel, John Stewart, Vixen, Cyborg, Falcon, Black Panther, Luke Cage, BLADE? Are they a joke to these people?
Also at 4:24, I was trying so hard not to laugh. So God damn you, JSG. XD
It bears repeating again: we, as black people, are our own worst enemies. And articles like this just proves my point even more.
"Africa before slavery"? how many hundreds of thousands of years back do you need to go?
"King Jigaboo" fuckin' killed me XD
Great work as usual, though.
You probably get this a lot but man, I'd love to see a comic written by you.
Its Fredric Wertham and the "Seduction of the Innocents" all over again, only this time focused on "Racism".
I was thinking the same thing.
I can tell you right now that myself, and all of my white friends, loved watching Static Shock as kids.
JSG: How many times do I have to teach you this lesson old man?!
Preach!!!!! 👊🏾 JSG dropping jewels out here!!!!
JSG could take a crap and it would be more valuable than an SJW's magnum opus.
As an old white guy that grew up with comics static shock was one of my favourite characters next to generator Rex and Ben 10
Alright youngin
@@nobodyshome6792 OK I meant more recently those are my favourite comic characters lol
@@mrlauro9150 Since when are Generator Rex and Ben 10 comic characters? Not to be rude, but to my knowledge they have always been animated series.
@@IzzySarru I think you're splitting hairs but whatever makes you happy Would you feel better if I said fictional characters
I am a white guy and also watched and enjoyed Static Shock (black lead character) and Generator Rex (latino lead character).
These are the same type of people who forgot Wesley Snipes existed when Black Panther was released.
History only begins around 2008 for these kinds of people.
It's like that time I google first black super hero film and Black Panther came up. They want to erase history and act like they pioneered the change, when it already happened. Blade, Steel, Meteor Man, Spawn already existed. But because it doesn't fit the narrative, they get ignored.
I remember watching the “Static Shock” cartoon on tv before going to work...some good memories from my early adult life. I would often have to run to work just so I wouldn’t be late.