Guys, just a small correction, i know Derbyshire is not London, but wanted to say it was located in England. Buxton Opera House is in Derbyshire located 160 miles north of London. Thanks my fellow subscribers for pointing this out!
Hehe. In 2011 I lived between Buxton & Bakewell. Buxton is the highest town in 🇬🇧 & there is a tap (faucet) in the street that supplies mineral/spring water directly from the aquifer.
JCM, I just came across your work late last night. I am very impressed with your scope of research and your smooth, calm story-telling ability. Best of luck to you moving forward.
Thanks Jose! I saw Page and Plant on this tour. It was like seeing Led Zeppelin. It was incredible. Thank you also, for the snippets of your personal music adventures.
My pleasure, glad my personal music adventures were interesting :) Man...i will talk about the 1995 tour with attention to detail, there were great moments on that concert series!
Great video!! Plant was always terrified that he wouldn’t live up to the years and years of hype surrounding LZ. He would barely even play LZ songs on his early solo stuff. He started to drift into obscurity so he went back to doing LZ songs. He included Page, but he wanted a scape goat in case they didn’t live up to the MASSIVE AND ENDLESS hype surrounding LZ. Justifiably so. It was VERY calculated leaving Jones out. Casual fans didn’t care, but true fans were very disappointed in how he treated Jones. He chose his ego over a brother again and again and again. When Jones said “thanks for remembering my number” he confirmed what we all knew. He hurt Jones deeply.
Yeah, i don't think it was "by accident". I wish Robert Plant stayed in the lane he was in 1982/1983, humble...taking it easy, not resorting to Zeppelin numbers. But money...it's always the goddamn money it seems right? Thank you for watching, Episode 8 Part 2 is out now, stay tuned for Episode 9 on 1995!
@@JCM-LedZeppelin-Stories I agree 100%. This may seem crazy, but it REALLY felt that if there was EVER a real case of a band selling souls for success this may be it 😂. Plant acted as if he never wanted to play or even discuss LZ. Like he was terrified. Do you remember what Plant did with his several “solo” bands before Live Aid? He would actually take requests at his quite small venue shows. Of course everyone would yell LZ songs out, then he would laugh and play some very uncommon blues covers. For like the entire show 🤷🏻♂️.
@@MikeSmedleyOLDSCHOOLSTRIPERS for me Plant is still playing uncommon blues numbers, sidestepping the real elephant or should I say inflated balloon in the room.
Another great instalment in a fascinating series JCM. Your attention to detail is impressive as always. And man, that Brazil crowd was INTO it, holy smokes!!
Once again, great work on the archives! Never saw any "Fate of Nations" concert footage before. Plant looked like he was really having a good time then. Also, it does seem that the relationship between Page, Plant and Jones has always been a strange one.
The Fate of Nations rocked, i have no complaints really, the band was on fire. Thank you for watching, Episode 8 Part 2 is out now, stay tuned for Episode 9 on 1995!
Hearing the rain song, is what made me fall in love with Led Zepplin. The majority of people, it's stairway to heaven. But for me, it was the rain song. That song has everything, it's magical, and there's a lot of magic in many Zepplin tracks, but the rain song is just on another level for me . Like you, I love classical guitar, flamenco etc. You have some great musical tastes.
I hear you Tony, The Rain Song is taking the acoustic things to a whole new level. It's what separates Led Zeppelin from OTHER bands from that era. As much as i love Stairway of course, The Rain Song proved they could tackle serious levels of musicianship. The fact the song has NO guitar solo per se...is just genius!
I saw this tour and it was amazing. The tour had much more energy and a longer set list than the album. To this day it is one of the best shows I have ever seen.
Mark i agree with you, the tour allowed for a very different vibe without the stress of a tv studio broadcast. In The Evening from the 1995 Tour is a highlight. Thank you so much for watching, stay tuned for Part 2 and then Episode 9 on 1995 :)
Page & Plant reunion so thankful we got it! Love how they also took the unPlugged format and made it their own by doing full band versions of Thank You, What is and what should never be (My fav wish it was on the album) Since Ive been loving you & Kashmir I agree “Rain song” should have made the cut with new arrangement of Levee… What an amazing time for me, especially all the live shows that would follow- Having JPJ would have been great but glad I saw him on Zooma tour- Great work JCM
Enormously proud of your work and being your brother from another mother. Thank you for documenting our story so elegantly through this fantastic episode, what a homage! Much love and warm fraternal hugs. 🤠
Kashinadie commented. Thank you my dear brother for your historic support from day one. Time is a strange vibration and music the vital infinite. IGNIS MODE!
Yeah😍 finally the episode that I wated the most for!! Thank you so much :)! I especially loved the longer, and very personal intro. fantastic! keep on the great work
You're welcome 😊 Glad you liked the intro, a very small number of viewers have said i should cut these personal recollections, but i want to provide some context. Thank you for watching, Episode 8 Part 2 is out now, stay tuned for Episode 9 on 1995!
Some of this album sounded to me like two radios on at the same time on different stations. A couple of tracks I do like a lot. We want JOHN PAUL JONES!
Great analogy there, i agree! Thank you very much for watching Part 1. Stay tuned for the next episode that focuses on the actual show and a special surprise by Jones :)
I love the unplugged version of No Quarter. I completely had written off the original. It never grabbed me. The new one sucked me in immediately when I first saw this concert, and is one of the places where updating the old songs really works. I mean, I think the whole album works, and is up there with Led Zep 2 & 4, two of my faves.
Wow, this is one of your favorites? Quite a controversial opinion BUT i respect you tons for saying it. I liked the acoustic No Quarter, somehow they managed to make it darker and closer to the dogs of doom's residence hehe.
Hey 😊 great to see your continuing devotion to bringing us all this amazing history about the Legendary Led Zeppelin story (anyone else believe that in 500 years people will talk about Led Zeppelin like we talk about King Arthur today?). I love your enthusiasm. You are also an incredible Musician. I so hope we can collaborate one day.... life has been super busy recently but it would be an honour to create something. I was pretty stunned recently to see I now have 85 subscribers compared to a year ago when it was 38. Might sound tiny but, just the thought of inspiring one other person with music is sooooo humbling! I just recorded a cover of Thank You, not sure how to share it but wow a really great track to play! Thanks so much for what you do, and sending Peace and Love to you and everyone here from me in the UK ❤
Hey Martin, it's never too late for a music collab :) You'll see! Thank you for watching this one, it was quite special to edit. I am very happy for you that your channel is growing and you keep adding value through your musical content! Stay tuned for the next episode that focuses on the actual show and a special surprise by Jones :)
Excellent video as always JCM, the rain song was released on the gallows pole CD single, should have been on the album! and i agree Ten years gone would've been amazing given the unledded treatment. Small correction - Buxton is in the middle of nowhere in Derbyshire about 200miles from London, i was lucky to be in attendance for that show. My thoughts about forgetting jones's number, its simple, the pressure of calling it a zeppelin reunion would have been to much. But the ignorance was unjustified. Looking forward to the next installment and can't wait until we get to zooma which i know you will give jonesy the spotlight he so rightly deserves. ✌❤
Rick, yeah, i know i messed up on the Derbyshire, i wanted to say England as a whole country but somehow i was tired i guess and put London. My bad :) I know the Zeppelin name was something of a dangerous move, but what the hell, how did Robert think Promoters would market this? Come on lol. Thank you very much for watching Part 1. Stay tuned for the next episode that focuses on the actual show and a special surprise by Jones :)
Great video, Jose. I'm a fan of the Great Carlos Montoya, especially Soleares & Malaga. That guy can play!!! I managed to catch 100 P/P shows '95 to '98. I was just happy to see and hear Page play live again, and he did not let me down. LedHed Pb 207.20 🎶 🎸 🎹 Edit : Later in the tours, they added Hey Hey What Can I Do & Babe I'm Gonna Leave You, and Ramble On. LedHed Pb 207.20 🎶 🎸 🎹
You know your Spanish Guitar man, that's awesome. wow, you watched 100 shows! Goddamn haha. What year was your favorite? For some reason i really like 1998!
@@JCM-LedZeppelin-Stories I would have to say my favorite show was where I saw them play Tea For One. They played it in a handful of shows in '98. LedHed Pb 207.20 🎶 🎸 🎹
This has been one of my fav episodes so far, as a fellow musician i liked the intro where you talk about yourself and your musical experience etc. THanks as always ! :-)
Oh man, thanks so much CT, glad you felt the connection with the story. 1994 was a tough year to work, the script was like 15 pages, i kid you not. Hope you enjoy Part 2, it has a lot of stuff too!
Great episode again. Plant saying 'no' to his son-in-law would've created a few awkward family get-togethers. Dad-daughter relationships can be very strong!
Hey Sebastián, saludos hasta Paraguay, que bueno que estás en modo Post Led Zeppelin, ha sido una odisea editarlos :) Espero que disfrutés la segunda parte de Unledded 1994!
@@JCM-LedZeppelin-Stories por supuesto! I'm here for the long run! You re-ignited my love for Zeppelin and i am listening to them everyday and practicing guitar like i never did !
JCM Dude...for all the love in the world that's beautiful, will you plse do a deal with Netflix for this. Your content and meticulous attention to detail is extraordinary. You deserve nothing less. Big love from Worcester, England ❤
I wish that'd happen hehe. Thing is Netflix means licensing rights and that is a whole new dimension, with the Zeppelin state lawyers involved, imagine...which also means revising scripts, vetoing stuff. What makes me happy is the growing community here on RUclips of dedicated Zepp fans! Thank YOU very much for watching Part 1. Stay tuned for the next episode that focuses on the actual show and a special surprise by Jones :)
First time seeing Fate of Nations tour clips, my fave album by him. Here he is 45. (I'm 46). He looks great. I see so many musicians in their 40's who look worn out. I just saw Robert & Alison Krause last month. He still sounds and looks great. A real talent.
Yeah, Robert was really hitting the gym! Dating Alannah Myles, Najma Akthar and Tori Amos probably helped too. Plant had charm for sure haha. Thank YOU very much for watching and supporting this project!
I've read somewhere that Jonesy used to be negligent when refering to Robert Lyrics. As Robert said: "“It was always difficult to collaborate with Jonesy because he never listened to the lyrics. I used to talk about a song, and he would say, ‘Now, which song would that be?’ And I’d go, ‘You know, the one on Presence.’ And he’d say, ‘I’m sorry, I’m not familiar with the titles. What key was it in?’ I’d sigh and say, ‘I haven’t a clue, Jonesy.’” Ask Jones to recall the song in which Plant sang, “All that glitters is gold,” and he’d likely have trouble pulling it. As Plant said, you’d have to put it in musical terms. Tell him it was the song he played five instruments on (including three recorders), and his musically encyclopedic brain would tell you it was “Stairway to Heaven.” I also read one time ( i think referring to "Achilles last stand "recording) Jonesy saying in a snob way that the other members didn't know really what they were doing musically. Maybe they were not that close as friends, could be a matter of work
That may be true, but why did RP constantly bash him even at live shows in the 70s. The fact that Bonham respected Jones says a lot, i miss Bonzo, he kept Plant grounded lol.
@@JCM-LedZeppelin-Stories may be. People who knew plant say he use to be friendly and pretty down to earth. But is also notorious he's Very sarcastic, critical, and sometimes ofensive in interviews, when talking bout other artists 🤔 Anyway, i love all the four man. Who knows what was happening then, ALL the circuntances around the guys?
I think you are correct. MTV would have made it a Led Zeppelin reunion if Jones were on board, and they may have had more control over the product. I just wish they were more graceful with communicating with JPJ - he was essential in the Zeppelin equation. It also seems Whitesnake fans were outnumbering Zeppelin fans at that point due to Coverdale being a more current sensation. BTW, I think the eagles are ok, but I just don't see them as top dogs like the stones, beatles, pink floyd, or Zeppelin. - but I guess millions of fans prove me wrong. Thanks for revealing so much that I was not aware of despite my Zeppelin fanaticism. Another great episode.
I don't see the EAGLES as top dog either, but that Unplugged show was everywhere, funny right? Hotel California acoustic was actually good, well the intro at least, it was different. Glad you enjoyed this one, the fact you are a hardcore Zeppelin fan is quite an HONOR!
I’ll be honest at the time I was just thrilled to see Page and Plant, being a musician myself I know what a cut throat business it is. I noticed that they played my favorite song Ten Years Gone in Japan (I think) I wish that they would have played it more. But it was disappointing not to see JPJ playing and I knew how Robert was about reunions he had kind of a superstitious kind way about it. Thanks for the work and everything that you do.
Japan had some interesting set lists for sure, these guys knew the bootleg market was heavy there, nothing is a coincidence it seems hehe. Thank you very much for watching Part 1. Stay tuned for the next episode that focuses on the actual show and a special surprise by Jones :)
Yeah, maybe the crazy heat and audience interaction inspired him big time! I really enjoyed this show, the band had a blast. Thank you very much for watching Part 1. Stay tuned for the next episode that focuses on the actual show and a special surprise by Jones :)
Whitesnake Greatest hits album sales comparison is fascinating. Also fascinating is Led Zeppelin album sales in the 90s were bigger than their sales in 70s. Led Zeppelin was one of biggest selling musical artists during the 90s due to the Remastered albums and Page & Plant.
Hahahah the Eagles man, i know right? Yeah Whitesnake Greatest Hits gave Coverdale some needed cash after almost 5 years without touring his business. Yes the Page and Plant thing boosted the Remastered Albums, great point! Thank you very much for watching Part 1. Stay tuned for the next episode that focuses on the actual show and a special surprise by Jones :)
Another stellar episode JCM... Personally I think it was unforgivable leaving John Paul Jones out. Subsequently I can't listen to any of the music of that period and really don't rate they're interpretations of the Zep classics, instead I feel they ruined them. I did go to see them on both tours in '95 and ' 98 but really dislike the Walking into Clarksdale AND the Zep re-workings that they performed (hated what they did to Kashmir)....I don't know what Plant's beef with John Paul is, I believe it goes back further than Jones not been present at Karac's funeral. All throughout the 70's, Plant was always making snide comments about Jones in lots of Zep shows. Their was some obvious dislike there on Plant's part. I remember reading of Jones saying he can't remember the titles or lyrics to the songs, but as soon as you say what key it's in he knows what your talking about. Maybe that was Plant's gripe??? Anyway, Zep aside JCM, delighted you also love Friday night in San Francisco ( Saturday night is just as good/maybe even better) probably the greatest popular music guitar album of all time? In fact when you did Kashmir on your nylon strung guitar in your live feed, your solo parts were so Paco sounding I was absolutely blown away. Please, please, more of this please. 👋👋👋
Yes, i feel the ruined them to an extent. Now interesting to think that Bonham didn't hold the Karac Funeral grudge...it was Bonzo who got them back in 1978 really, so it has to be something else what started the Jones-Plant beef, i think i know what it was, but i could never say it on video :) I heard Saturday Night in San Francisco, it was great to listen to that "lost show". Thank you for your kind words David, i will revisit Kashmir acoustic again, you'll see. Stay tuned for the next episode that focuses on the actual show and a special surprise by Jones :)
Una noche genial definitivamente, la energía fue absoluta. Thank you very much for watching Part 1. Stay tuned for the next episode that focuses on the actual show and a special surprise by Jones :)
Yeah but if Robert really thought about it....how do you think Promoters SOLD this tour? He could have carried his solo tour with the 1993 band, but he wanted to make more money, the venues in the US were getting smaller for him. Thank you very much for watching Part 1. Stay tuned for the next episode that focuses on the actual show and a special surprise by Jones :)
It’s money and control. That’s all it is. Money if they called jones. Then it would be 3 way split But page plant two ways. And they pay bass player 400 $ a gig. (Nite )Maybe little more 700$. .
It’s money plain and simple. Two way split. Call in jones. 3 way split. . They pay gig bass player. 4oo to 500 $ at major concert. It’s sad. But that s real. Calling in jones would cost them millions . They all do it
@@JCM-LedZeppelin-Stories If money was a primary motivating factor for Robert Plant he would not have begun his solo career with five years of "No Led anything" and would not have declined Page's pleas to reform Led Zeppelin in 1986, 1991 & 2008.
You know it Jeremy! Thank you very much for watching Part 1. Stay tuned for the next episode that focuses on the actual show and a special surprise by Jones :)
your uncle was a lot like mine. he owned the kome radio bldg in san jose...my first concert was ELP IN 77.. and i hung around kome untill they let me work there.... i met everyone... and i do mean everyone in rock n roll in the late 70s... my very first job!
Wow, RP is taken back by the audience's response during "Babe, I'm Gonna Leave You" and there's a hint of disbelief during the opening riff of "29 Palms" (like Robert saying internally, "oh, they think it's another Zeppelin tune"). But when the audience not only knows the words to "29 Palms" but belt it back louder than Robert, this wave of emotion lifts Plant. During "Goin' to California", it looks like Robert Plant is on a runner's high and even gets gitty in between lyrics.
Watch Page/ Plant live 1995 St Louis Missouri whole concert on video on RUclips . I was there Page and Plant saw a crowd that shocked them top5 show of both tours from them . I saw them again in 98 it for me was more hard rocking Zep and again amazing show no video of that show unfortunately .
Man, the Brazil show is CLASS A STUFF. Please watch! I love the fact the audience sang with him, on 29 Palms. That must have felt great selling half the copies Coverdale Page did hehe.
I had a friend who went to the Paco, Mc Laughlin, Di Meola tour off that album. Steve Morris who played with Deep Purple was the opener playing an acoustic set.
Get out, WHAT'S that Killer Lineup you speak of! Morse as opener, WOW! Thank you for watching, Episode 8 Part 2 is out now, stay tuned for Episode 9 on 1995!
@@JCM-LedZeppelin-Stories it was the tour in support of the one night in San Francisco album. He opened several dates on acoustic and people didn't know who he was. He was not that well known. He may have started.the Dixie Dregs but not that known..People told me about the Kingsbury Hall Show in Salt Lake City Utah. They couldn't quit talking about Steve said he was as good as the Trio. When would that be? Like 82? I'll see if I can Google. 1983 but I couldn't see an archive date for that hall or Abravanel Hall. Closest was Nov 83 in Denver. It would have been around that. I may have got location messed up but it would have been about that time in 83 maybe Denver or San Diego or I may have got a BS story from friends, lol
I do believe that "Ten Years Gone" is terribly missing, no only on the CD, but on tours. Here some trivia about the venues they did back then in Brasil: Rio's Praça da Apoteose is no less than the Sambódromo ("sambadrome"), where every year's Carnival Parade is set, with all those Samba Leagues (we call them "escolas de samba") competing like it was a World Cup. Sao Paulo's Morumbi is a soccer stadium that could seat 105 thousand at those times (it shrank later) and alleged 45.000 more standing on the green. We never had the precise numbers, because show's promoters used to sell way more tickets than the informed numbers, so they kept the extra money to themselves. It happened on Queen's 1981 show, when producers informed authorities and the band's personnel they'd be selling 120.000 tickets, but there was about 200.000 souls compressed into the stadium, and God only knows how it ended up with nobody seriously hurt. The "Hollywood Rock" logomark didn't refer to the place: it was a Cigarrette brand name.
Maybe i can TRY and record a Ten Years Gone Unledded version one day :) Thank you SO much for these fascinating bits of information on their Brazil shows. I think they were the pinnacle of this TOUR and project.
Amazing - the Peter Grant interview must have been done with Canada's MuchMusic ('the nation's music station!). I recognise the interviewer. Kim Clarke-Champniss
Yeah, it was done in Toronto, great catch there man! Thank you very much for watching Part 1. Stay tuned for the next episode that focuses on the actual show and a special surprise by Jones :)
Hahah you know it! Winamp is one of those names that hits you right in the nostalgia part of the brain right? Thank you very much for watching, hope you enjoy the rest of the series!
Kashmir is the highlight of this album. Better than the PG original version , if it's possible. Of course the myriads of typical instruments and the expertise of the guest musicians contibuted. Love JCM documentaries and his voice over here is great. Love it.
@@paulhoughton5431 @marilynmeissner even in poor technical Conditions, I love John Paul Jones & and LED Zeppelin performances of kashmir. When i say i prefer page & plant version is not because a possible Jones work lack of quality. On the contrary, Jones keyboard is magistral always. But even being the Genius he is, he emulates a eastern orquestra in his original arranjment. As a consequence hearing a orquestra playing kashmir is to hear what Heard on his mind when creating kashmir keyboard part, and probably closer to his idea, cause he hás a orquestral musical mind. And of course the page plant version is not a tribute because was conceived and performed by themselves with a luxurious help of the orquestra. It would be a tribute If It played by me or other musicians ( as in Encomium). Zep music is só rich musically and formally speaking that allows other aproaches which eventuallly expands the original. Only fanatic minds with no musical or cultural antropological perspective would think their work is closed in itself.
I think arrangement wise it can be "better" than Graffiti with all the Zeppelin controversy THAT brings. But...what proves that theory wrong is and let me save you time, is ALL the Page Plant versions i've had to listen over and over again for my research. The Egyptian feel works 2, or 3 spins TOPS. Then the effect wears off, and no disrespect to Hossam Ramzy, he WAS A GENIUS, 100%. Kashmir studio version can be revisited 100 times and what works is what you IMAGINE and perceive in the invisible 3D construction of it! Thank YOU very much for watching and supporting this project!
Un-leaded would’ve been Un-even had Jones been brought into the fold. It’d have opened fanfare shouting of “do a reunion” and that’s exactly what they didn’t want. Like you said; it was a purely political move.
Yeah, it's tricky right LUVBASSES, the man himself! I mean, i get it yes, don't want the Zeppelin name, but man...the numbers and stats really make these guys look bad lol. Thank you very much for watching Part 1. Stay tuned for the next episode that focuses on the actual show and a special surprise by Jones :)
I know. By nature it seemed to us out here on the other side that they purely snubbed him. Let’s face it, the clock was ticking, they got this idea to go out and re-spin up some of their songs and make some money and tour again. But man they looked bad by completely ignoring the secret Zeppelin weapon all those years ago. They guy who helped pull them through during the dark days. The music business shouldn’t ever mingle with personal sentiments. You should not let yourself get attached to others but it’s gotta be tough when you live with them for so many years. It can be a cutthroat biz for sure.
Another amazing installment Jose. Just the statistics alone must have been a nightmare. Like I said before, a doco series that will last the ages. I went to the No Quarter Concert 29/2/96 and recorded the most sh!t bootleg on 2 x cassette tapes via a Walkman. I'll send you a copy if you want it but its 1.2 GB
I love gathering stats you know? I guess that's what 90s NBA does to a kid hehe. Wow, you have a bootleg of that show? Man yeah, i would love to hear it! Send it to jcm1129films@gmail.com Thank you very much for watching Part 1. Stay tuned for the next episode that focuses on the actual show and a special surprise by Jones :)
Hey Jose, well done on this! Looks like you've been very busy. "With the obvious exclusion of jpj... shut up!" 😂 Ten years gone would have been great, dare I say...they may have needed Jonesy's 3 legged dog to play that one? Plus I think jpj used to play the bass for that with foot pedals. (The world's best everythingest am I right?!) Btw I sent you an email not sure is it may have gone to your spam mate? Anyways, I wanted to go see them in 1995 but the tickets were too expensive for me at the time. One of my friends attended and he said, it was the loudest and best concert he's ever been too! Cheers Paul 😊👍
I was 24 years old when Unleded MTV thing was gonna happen. I told my friend mark about it and showed up at his apartment with a case of beer and we watched it. I was just blown away. When they toured I seen them in San Diego, Then Irvine Meadows, then in 1998 again in San Diego, CA.
Was really exciting to hear there was finally this get together after years of thinking it was just a dream, knowing there was a tour also had me running out the door. The JPJ issue seemed to be easily forgotten? Of course that would have seemed too much like a full Zep reunion and after hearing things like “sometimes it was difficult to work with Jonesy” and looking at most song credits, Page & Plant sounded cooler and was more played down but crucially rang a bell with fans who’d studied the old album sleeves for song credits, Lennon & Mcartney would have done this had Lennon not died…
I'm sure the Millions of Dollars made by the Page Plant tours didn't make Jones feel better....but hey, such is the music business a place of "friends" and "broken levees" hehe. Thank YOU very much for watching and supporting this project!
1994 was a very active year for me, I was 27, I live in San Fernando Valley, went to Austin Texas in January to join band friend's that lived there, I played the drums for them, The Earthquake hit San Fernando Valley two weeks after I got to Austin Texas, I came back to San Fernando Valley in April 1994, then went to Reno Nevada in September of 1994, by December I finally heard the Page and Plant No Quarter album, I wasn't listening or playing music at all since I left Austin but rather spending a lot of time with family in Reno, when I did hear Page and Plant, I heard it on the radio, it was Kashmir, I was shocked.
The 90s were a special time indeed, wished i was 27 back then, but still as a kid it was magic. Thanks for sharing your life experience on the comments, i appreciate it!
Yeah, the way it builds from acoustic to the ending is great! Thank you very much for watching Part 1. Stay tuned for the next episode that focuses on the actual show and a special surprise by Jones :)
Saw that 1980 tour of DiMeola McLaughlin and De Lucia at the Calderone in Hempstead Long Island. They broke into Jumpin Jack Flash at one point to great laughter and applause. Paco kicked serious ass.
NO WAY, what a SHOW you witnessed. Man Paco was scary in his playing, Di Meola knew it and Paco punched him once outside a recording studio for acting like a douche LOL. John McLaughlin really got along with Paco, their 1987 Montreux stuff is amazing!
Hi Jose 👋 what’s up? Another excellent work with the trademark JCM 😁 honestly speaking, I don't usually get too attached to the adventures of the duo Page/Plant…they are half of my heart but a half doesn't make a whole, if you know what I mean. I miss Jonesy and especially Bonzo. P&P were in good company but…it was impossible to have Bonham but why not Jones? After all, he is alive and continues to be an excellent musician. I know that from a certain time on, JPJ didn't feel very comfortable with the ravings of the boys at the time of Zepp, he even stayed in different hotels but even so, a little bit of the dirt spilled over on him 😂 anyway, they had their reasons but I have I'm sure if Jonesy was with them, the success would be much, much bigger and the shows would be stellar. I watch the stuffs Jimmy did with other people because Jimmy is Jimmy, he's my most beloved guitar player and I follow with interest what JPJ is doing but nothing will ever be like it was back when there was a unicorn called Led Zeppelin. Interesting to know that you are Latino, I lived in Brazil for three years and one year in Peru, I am fluent in Portuguese and speak reasonably Spanish. I lived in Brazil when Page had a house there but I was a teenager so my dad never allowed me to get close to him 😂 “when you're an adult it's fine but not now!” he said (I met Jimmy in person only in 2014) my dad also lived in Argentina, but I went back to Japan because I was tired of studying with tutors. Btw, there are some fun stories about Jimmy in those years that he had a home in Brazil... Jose, I'm looking forward to seeing what the surprise is in the next episode... about Jonesy. Thank you, for now! 😊
Omg Marcia you lived in Latin America! That's very interesting. You need to share more please. Email me and we can talk about it! Thank you for tuning in to this one, it was quite a challenge to make hehe.
I saw the Unledded Tour in Dallas. I didn't think much of it, and I never saw another show. The volume level, the sound pressure level that I heard, in the balcony was less, than what I regularly achieved when I listened to Rock music in my home. I guess I've seen too many Led Zeppelin shows, and expect Led Zeppelin songs to be performed 'loud'. The Biggest disappointment for me was "Kashmir." My disappoint comes from comparing the P&P performance, to what I heard LZ perform in 1977. The P&P performance was "Kashmir Light." That did have a good effect on me, in that I left half way through "Kashmir" and beat all of the traffic out of the parking lot. That said, I cherish the 2007 O2 performance of "Kashmir," which I consider the best dynamic recording in existence. Since there is not the quality of recording for any of Zeppelin's recordings prior, this O2 performance is the ONLY "Kashmir" I ever listen to. It comes the closest to the power and the glory of what I experienced in 1977. I consider "Kashmir" the pinnacle of Zeppelin live, over STH, WLL, and D&C. I am glad that they chose to highlight "Kashmir" for their show in 2007. JPJ is the secret sauce, without which, make all other attempts, like P&P fall short, for me. And finally, creatively, LZ died when John Bonham was no longer a part of the group. I respect their decision to not continue after John's death. Bonzo was the "Heart & Soul" of Led Zeppelin... their Biggest Fan, imo.
wow, you left halfway through kashmir, says it all, but hey can't blame you if you experienced the 1977 version. The 2007 version is the best dynamic recording, agree. I revisit this Kashmir as well. The part at the end where they almost went for the ascending scale but Jones realized Jimmy was not there yet and SAVED the track was awesome. Bonzo was the Heart and Engine, you're right! Thank you very much for watching Part 1. Stay tuned for the next episode that focuses on the actual show and a special surprise by Jones :)
1994 was one of the busiests years of my life. I graduated high school, got my first ever girlfriend, went on a month-long vacation to my home state, and decided to join the military, so I really wasn't up on much in the way of news, especially once my high school graduation came around. So the Unledded project hit without me hearing about it and I was quite shocked. All of a sudden I was seeing Page and Plant play songs with an Egyptian orchestra on MTV! What witchery is this? How did this happen? I got to enjoy it for all of a month before I left for Marine Corps boot camp, but I certainly didn't forget about it. After 11 weeks of boot camp, I bought the album on cassette at the PX on MCRD San Diego, and didn't even get to listen to it until a week later. Of course I enjoyed it, but it was definitely missing something with Jones' absence. And it wasn't as if Jonesy wouldn't have been up to the task, his work on that collab with Diamanda Galas was superb (although I can't stand Galas). Still, though, at that time I was much more happy with what we had than worried about what we didn't. I loved that rendition of Kashmir along with Gallow's Pole. I didn't hear their version of The Rain Song until well after the fact, and I agree, it's a shock as to why it wasn't included on the album. But overall, in retrospect Unledded really did feel more like a Plant solo project that Page just happened to play on. Walking into Clarksdale has much of the same feel, actually.
You're right on the money, Unledded sounded like Plant's solo career. I am eager to dive into Walking into Clarksdale. Glad you mentioned Galas...she is coming up next on Part 2, stay tuned :)
Thank you JCM! I almost became sick again thinking about the way Jonesy found out about unledded. Then calling it No Quarter! I understand not including him but be better than that..he deserved and earned better!!! As a Zeppelin fan since 1980 ..waiting for a reunion..waiting..this was the best I would get Page and Plant. I saw them in 1995 and 1998. They were great..
Hey Jimmy! Thanks so much for sharing your comment and tuning in to Part 1 of 2. I will talk about the Page and Plant tour, there's moments i enjoyed, it's not like i will bash them for playing together. Unledded did require the Jones debacle!
AmpTechRon the man himself! Thank you very much for watching Part 1. Stay tuned for the next episode that focuses on the actual show and a special surprise by Jones :)
It quenched my thirst and rant :) Thank you very much for watching Part 1. Stay tuned for the next episode that focuses on the actual show and a special surprise by Jones :)
Muchas gracias Aldo! Es una buena idea para un proyecto financiado por suscriptores hispanoparlantes. Dado que hay una audiencia mayor anglosajona lo hice en el idioma original de la obra de Led Zeppelin. Pienso que via Patreon podria obtener los fondos para esta tarea monumental :) Gracias por sintonizar. Espero disfrutes el resto de la serie 1990s.
Awesome episode Jose!!!! I’ve been waiting for this and it did not disappoint! Can’t wait for episode 2!! ❤❤ I agree, 10 Years Gone would’ve been sick, never thought of it being on Unledded. UnJonese’d!! Funny not funny! Excellent words on the whole Jonesy situation. I agree 100%!!!! Thanks man!!!!!❤❤❤❤❤
Matt i'm so glad you enjoyed this one, man i was SO excited to share this one, 1994 got me immersed in the story like 1993 but different, i took it somewhat personal on the Jones dismissal. Thank you very much for watching Part 1. Stay tuned for the next episode that focuses on the actual show and a special surprise by Jones :)
Tell me about it hehe, i am eager to go there, i don't like the cover, that i can tell you upfront! Thank you very much for watching Part 1. Stay tuned for the next episode that focuses on the actual show and a special surprise by Jones :)
@JCM-LedZeppelin-Stories What more can be said? The production was muddled (Albini was a bad choice) the songs seemed half formed and it just didn't seem like their hearts were in it. It was just bad. The title track was the only halfway decent song. The rest was disappointing.
Yeah I mean I get it not having jones. It would have been a different thing all together. But page wasn’t going to pass it up. He’s been wanting and still wanting to work with Plant and play zeppelin tunes. Imop it was irresistible for Plant once he heard pages playing in the CP LP. He got his shit together and say by 96 was getting his second wind. Close to 75 level. Pages best playing post zeppelin was early 90s-‘00s. But yeah as a zep fan it would have been epic if they reunited in the 90s.
A great opportunity was lost indeed. Thank you very much for watching Part 1. Stay tuned for the next episode that focuses on the actual show and a special surprise by Jones :)
Another awesome video 🤘🤘 I really look forward to these . I loved the unjones’d title 😂 sad to think they could spend 12 years together and they can’t speak to him in person about what they had planned , that’s really bad form
Yeah, it's ridiculous really, 12 years is a long time. Robert Plant the solo artist is a STRANGE man. Thank you very much for watching Part 1. Stay tuned for the next episode that focuses on the actual show and a special surprise by Jones :)
I think the very fact that they called it Un-Leded says they were trying to make it very obvious this was NOT going to be a Zep reunion,…..though like you said, the tour and the next one might say otherwise. At the time I remember thinking if they asked JPJ to come onboard they there would be the obvious push to make it a full Zep reunion that even at the time I knew how Robert would have hated that. The fact that they didn’t tell him about it and explain to him the situation is a shame though. On another note, in the following tour they did play I think pretty much every song you mentioned that was missed from the unplugged show, hey hey what can I do, in the evening, ramble on, tea for one, they even played Ten Years Gone in their amazing run in Japan in ‘95 at least once, check it out if you haven’t! (TYG is one of my personal favorite songs too ❤)
Maybe the 1994 show was Unledded, but the TOUR that followed had a very Ledded intention you know? It's funny AND sad! Thank you for watching, Episode 8 Part 2 is out now, stay tuned for Episode 9 on 1995!
It was ultimately titled Un-ledded because the showcase Robert (only) was initially offered in September 1993 was MTV Unplugged. Robert invited Jimmy to collaborate with him, and in doing so the project evolved into No Quarter: Jimmy Page & Robert Plant: Un-Ledded. I'll leave it to fans to speculate if No Quarter has a double-meaning alluding to not calling JPJ.
I welcomed unledded into my life, I grew up on Zeppelin, it was an integral part of my musical education, their music to me is familiar in a sense of like it is to be family. So, when I hit play on that album, I knew JPJ wasn't there, however I trusted Page and Plant must have had their reasons, what was unleashed was a whole new musical texture and landscape. I HATE the sound of Ovation acoustics so Page had some work to do to impress me, but that version of No Quarter grabbed me straight away, but not before I was taken on a whole new fresh journey through Nobodies Fault but Mine which was soooo cool, they tore it apart down to the roots of where that song came from, very well done and sitting in the key of G brought out some nice tone from Plant, and a nice standard version of Thank You which has Page asserting himself as the great rock guitar player he can be. Everything he did up this point was a bit "wiggly", a bit hit and miss, a few moments on Outrider were great but here the texture of Page and Plant together was emotional for me. That voice, that guitar. When they hit Since I've been loving you, it was tears of joy, Page can play with huge emotion and he brought Tea for One, and I'm gonna Crawl into the SIBLY canvas, his playing is so careful and delicate, yet powerful..... I didn't really like their new songs, but understood it was something of unfinished business for them bringing the "street" into their music from those cultures, where I did click with it was the version of Kashmir, that encapsulated everything about that eastern sound, I loved it, and still do. As far as the omission of JPJ, we'll never know, but I feel JPJ was separating himself from the band post '77, never traveled with them or stayed with them on tour, he just turned up and played, IMO there was already a wedge between JPJ and the rest of the band.....And also, I feel we would have got something quite different and perhaps something not as "fresh", maybe Page and Plant wanted the room to explore the songs in a different light, which I feel they did so well....Who knows, its all speculation at the end of the day.... BUT, when it came to the tours, it would have been fitting to have JPJ with them, because it was pretty much 99% Zeppelin!! But they didnt and we got what we got. I was not disappointed. Pretty cool to hear Plant singing Shake my Tree on the 1995 tour though!! Great Doco, very thought provoking!!
Your words are filled with great points and perspectives, thank you for sharing these Kev! You are right on Page channeling Tea for One and I'm Gonna Crawl into since for sure, it has the Latter Day Zepp vibe!
I attended that show as well. Excellent show, but I thought it was a little too loud. The acoustics in the Spectrum were poor. MSG in New York was always the best venue to see/hear a band. PS: I had tickets for the Philly show at JFK that was canceled in 1977. It would have been my first rock concert.
Another good one man, thanks for making it! Long comment coming up! Right now I'm only up to the point of the end of the JPJ rant. Had to stop and make a comment while it's fresh on my mind. I agree that it was very rude of those two not inviting him and they way they went about it it. However it was actually not all that surprising when Page/Plant's collaboration was announced. I can remember reading some magazine articles from the late 80s/early 90s where Page and (maybe) Plant kinda shit on him. I can remember specifically getting vibes that they kinda thought he was baggage compared to Bonham. Like saying something like, "yeah, he was ok. Sometimes." I remember being shocked at the time. I am super glad he didn't do the gig tho. Would have absolutely ruined Zep for me. Unledded kinda seemed pretty goofy at the time to me as it was, and had they done it as Almost Zeppelin or something, it would have destroyed their legacy. Of course I was excited when it was announced, but when I saw it I was like, "wow, cheesy." Expecting a kick ass show reminiscent of a Zep show was too high of an expectation. Other comment: You're right, 10 Years Gone woulda been great. Potentially better than Zep ever did it live. They coulda just done it as is on record along with the Indian stuff.....even the loud parts coulda been loud....and it woulda been really great. That tune deserves a good live rendition, although when the Crowes did it, it was pretty good. Coulda used a Bonham on drums tho! Keep up the good work, and thanks again!
When Unledded came out, nobody cared too much thar Jones was missing - we were too blown away at the two leads playing and recording together again - and much was made by the likes of Plant of NOT wanting to call it 'Led Zep' with all that would come from doing so.
Yeah i can understand that. Specially after almost 15 years of waiting for Page and Plant to work on a project like this. I still believe Jones could have played on the tour and get some of those 20 million dollars they made throughout the 90's you know? ....out of principle. Principle of Moments ;)
Unjonessed is an UNJUSTICE FOR ALL! Thanks so much for tuning in Tom! Stay tuned for the next episode that focuses on the actual show and a special surprise by Jones :)
Ten Years Gone full acoustic, without this beautifull electric solo close to the end? It would be an average snoozer :DDD I understand why they didn't invated JPJ - I belive it was business decision, made ofcourse by Plant, carrere wise he got the upper hand. He was afraid that this project would become full blown reunion with tour and eventually new record. But during tour him and Page quickly realised that without songs wrote with JPJ they really got nothing so they ended up playing only LZ staff and THIS enraged JPJ, because being excluded from tours with (almost) only LZ material cost him lots and lots of money. I'm very glad that now JPJ got finally recognition he deserve - brilliant musician still musicaly relevant (TCV) in R&R world and driving force behind LZ. Thank you, Jose.
Maybe Ten Years Gone with Porl Thompson on acoustic guitar and Jimmy on electric :) Yeah man, JPJ was left out good money, i still think the world needs to further recognize Jones and Bonham as co-writers for Zeppelin songs, Jimmy alone couldn't have come up with the rhythm arrangements for say...Presence! Thank you very much for watching Part 1. Stay tuned for the next episode that focuses on the actual show and a special surprise by Jones :)
@@JCM-LedZeppelin-Stories Yeah, some time ago we both agreed that JPJ saved Presence. Bonham was a genius of drums, period. His sound is so unique that you can't mistake his play with no one else whatever he was author of that particular song or not (song he recorded with McCartney is good example). JPJ work is "invisible" and he don't help himself eighter - he don't care about recognition, to the extend that for years people often thought Page and Plant were founding members of LZ, not him and Page. I'm looking foward for the next episode :)
Always found it rather ironic to bill this reunion as No Quarter and leave out John Paul Jones... Thanks for your keen insight on the reasons for leaving JPJ behind, you brought up some very good points. Thanks again for the good work
Hey Maxime, and also, a point i missed.....If Bonham thought not attending Karac's funeral was a definite breakup he would have left the band with Plant but no...he insisted on getting back together in 1978 so, that tells you a lot too. Thank you very much for watching Part 1. Stay tuned for the next episode that focuses on the actual show and a special surprise by Jones :)
El 25 de Enero de 1994 Robert Plant se presentó en Caracas y yo no me enteré, cómo pudo pasar éso? 😱😭😭 En el 1993 yo vi allá a Santana, Peter Gabriel, Jon Anderson, Rick Wakeman y Charly García!
Page and Plant may handled the JPJ thing in uncaring manner - just a two minute phone call would have been fine - but I think they sure handled their post-Zeppelin careers fine. Bonzo died, they called it quits for THE perfect reason, each did some solo stuff, then finally felt that enough time had gone by and it just felt like it was time to work together again and to explore the Indian thing they had touched on years earlier.
Some could argue that John Paul Jones was a main ingredient in Zeppelin's versatility. Obviously Page is adept at many styles but Jones brought in that progressive edge that put them on another level creatively and kept Led Zeppelin from being in fact New Yardbirds or some kind of Humble Pie II
Wow this is a GREAT comment....Humble Pie 2. This is GOLD, the depth of this comparison is EPIC! Thank YOU very much for watching and supporting this project!
@@JCM-LedZeppelin-Stories Humble Pie had a brilliant, charismatic singer, a wunderkind drummer, a great, versatile lead guitarist and an able bassist . What they didn't have was a classically trained , multi- instrumentalist arranger/ producer with a gift for composition and who commanded enough respect to get his ideas included on the records. It's a credit to Page , being the undisputed leader of the band, that he was wise enough to not only recognize Jones's worth but to encourage his input.
Plant guilty of big time hypocrisy. Played plenty of Zep numbers to resurrect flagging career (most, if not all of the solo albums had a fair share of duds). Also chose to tour places where Zep never or rarely toured, so where demand would be high & comparisons with the real deal would be non existent...
It's hard to think otherwise right? I think he managed to break this cycle somewhat past 2010? Money makes the world go round they say! Thank you very much for watching Part 1. Stay tuned for the next episode that focuses on the actual show and a special surprise by Jones :)
@@JCM-LedZeppelin-Stories Struggling to be charitable to RP, ego & avarice. JP went along with the betrayal of JPJ, as he was also looking at the profit share and likely knew JPJ would upstage (them both) doing the musical rearrangements and orchestration
I think he was left out because the media would have gone into a frenzy saying it’s a Zep reunion. I’d say Robert was behind leaving JPJ out not Jimmy.
I think that’s a big part of it. Plant has been steadfastly opposed to a true reunion tour. As great as the No Quarter show and album was, it would have benefitted from JPJ’s playing and arranging.
@@TateGg-ji5lf Agreed, that hat makes JCM's ITTOD documentary so sad. Finally, Jones & Plant were connecting. The two most different of Zep personalities, and rightly so creating the band's most dynamic work.
@TateGg-ji5lf I don't understand why Plant never really respected Jonesy after Led Zeppelin. Those two literally carried the band between 1977-80 while Pagey, Bonzo and Grant were destroying themselves with hard drugs and alcohol. I wonder if Plant also has a grudge towards him to this day since he found his life long best friend Bonham dead upstairs in Jimmy's old mill house and told him about it in September 1980. Plant as nice and charming as he always seems to be to everyone is also can be a very pompous and sensitive brat as well.
Yet again your review is spot on JCM. This album and the whole unplugged era was over indulgent rock star bile. I struggled to re listen to No Quarter, god knows what JPJ's thought about it? Robert over sings on just about every track. Jimmy's playing on Thank You is awful, as he could be live. At the time (94) I wondered whether they were I'll advised releasing this? Britain at the time was in the throws of an indi explosion. Bands like Blur, Oasis, Manic Street Preachers, The Wildhearts etc were kicking arse big time. No Quarter was so out of place, it was a joke really. Some of the tracks included Robert's new found Middle Eastern wail in them which frankly was just annoying. Coverdale must have thought WTF dumped for this!! This whole exercise reminded everyone that there were four people in Led Zeppelin, two just is not good enough. I resisted watching them in 95, but finally went in 98 when Jimmy had found his chops again, for probably one of the last times. I bet you hated revisiting this album, some of it is truly cringe worthy. And this was 10 years after Spinal tap!! Keep up the great work. Looking forward to the Walking Into Clarksdale shambles episode which is not much better, but has less wailing at least!
Spot on the comment of Coverdale thinking "i got dumped for this" lol. He knew it was a money thing right? I like the 1998 Tour, A LOT. I hated revisiting Unledded yes, and also because of a personal story i can only share via email lol.
babe i’m gonna leave you and ramble on were the 2 opening songs played sydney entertainment centre they came out as a 4 piece for about an hour and just rocked before bringing out the ‘orchestra’ for 2 nd half👌🏼
@@JCM-LedZeppelin-Stories any down under footage would i’d be guessing ,rare as hen’s teeth😅i mentioned this comment as quite a few of the songs you mentioned as possible addition’s to unledded disc were played in that first hour or so another being ‘over the hills and far away’ and ‘ten years gone’ they also played a killer version of ‘whole lotta love’ which ran for a good 20 minutes with in the improvised section broke into about 4 songs including a elvis rendition and the doors’break on through’ there was no ‘in through the outdoor’ songs as i imagine would of been a further kick in the guts for jones as it was really his album😩lovin your work jose☝🏻
He was, while the Brazil gigs were awesome, he was not ready to carry on like this. He needed change as your said! Thank you for watching, Episode 8 is out now! stay tuned for Episode 9 on 1995!
Guys, just a small correction, i know Derbyshire is not London, but wanted to say it was located in England. Buxton Opera House is in Derbyshire located 160 miles north of London. Thanks my fellow subscribers for pointing this out!
Hehe. In 2011 I lived between Buxton & Bakewell. Buxton is the highest town in 🇬🇧 & there is a tap (faucet) in the street that supplies mineral/spring water directly from the aquifer.
JCM, I just came across your work late last night. I am very impressed with your scope of research and your smooth, calm story-telling ability.
Best of luck to you moving forward.
You need to check out his in through the outdoor series AMAZING.@@royalcrown9502
I like this channel so much that on this one I listened to all the narration but skipped over some of the Unledded live footage.
Thank You!!! Unledded was such a mixed emotions topics to revisit...
Thanks Jose! I saw Page and Plant on this tour. It was like seeing Led Zeppelin. It was incredible. Thank you also, for the snippets of your personal music adventures.
My pleasure, glad my personal music adventures were interesting :) Man...i will talk about the 1995 tour with attention to detail, there were great moments on that concert series!
Sounds good, sir! I'm looking forward to it! @@JCM-LedZeppelin-Stories
Great video!! Plant was always terrified that he wouldn’t live up to the years and years of hype surrounding LZ. He would barely even play LZ songs on his early solo stuff. He started to drift into obscurity so he went back to doing LZ songs. He included Page, but he wanted a scape goat in case they didn’t live up to the MASSIVE AND ENDLESS hype surrounding LZ. Justifiably so. It was VERY calculated leaving Jones out. Casual fans didn’t care, but true fans were very disappointed in how he treated Jones. He chose his ego over a brother again and again and again. When Jones said “thanks for remembering my number” he confirmed what we all knew. He hurt Jones deeply.
Yeah, i don't think it was "by accident". I wish Robert Plant stayed in the lane he was in 1982/1983, humble...taking it easy, not resorting to Zeppelin numbers. But money...it's always the goddamn money it seems right? Thank you for watching, Episode 8 Part 2 is out now, stay tuned for Episode 9 on 1995!
@@JCM-LedZeppelin-Stories I agree 100%. This may seem crazy, but it REALLY felt that if there was EVER a real case of a band selling souls for success this may be it 😂. Plant acted as if he never wanted to play or even discuss LZ. Like he was terrified. Do you remember what Plant did with his several “solo” bands before Live Aid? He would actually take requests at his quite small venue shows. Of course everyone would yell LZ songs out, then he would laugh and play some very uncommon blues covers.
For like the entire show 🤷🏻♂️.
I think you are onto something wow!
@@MikeSmedleyOLDSCHOOLSTRIPERS for me Plant is still playing uncommon blues numbers, sidestepping the real elephant or should I say inflated balloon in the room.
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Another great instalment in a fascinating series JCM. Your attention to detail is impressive as always. And man, that Brazil crowd was INTO it, holy smokes!!
I was there.
Thank you for watching Anthony, i LOVED editing the Brazil show, so much energy, Episode 8 Part 2 is out now, stay tuned for Episode 9 on 1995!
Once again, great work on the archives! Never saw any "Fate of Nations" concert footage before. Plant looked like he was really having a good time then. Also, it does seem that the relationship between Page, Plant and Jones has always been a strange one.
The Fate of Nations rocked, i have no complaints really, the band was on fire. Thank you for watching, Episode 8 Part 2 is out now, stay tuned for Episode 9 on 1995!
Episode 7 part 1 is informative and entertaining-thank you Jose from the Antipodes(NZ)
Greetings down to NZ! Thank you for watching, Episode 8 is out now, stay tuned for Episode 9 on 1995!
Hearing the rain song, is what made me fall in love with Led Zepplin.
The majority of people, it's stairway to heaven. But for me, it was the rain song.
That song has everything, it's magical, and there's a lot of magic in many Zepplin tracks, but the rain song is just on another level for me .
Like you, I love classical guitar, flamenco etc.
You have some great musical tastes.
I hear you Tony, The Rain Song is taking the acoustic things to a whole new level. It's what separates Led Zeppelin from OTHER bands from that era. As much as i love Stairway of course, The Rain Song proved they could tackle serious levels of musicianship. The fact the song has NO guitar solo per se...is just genius!
I saw this tour and it was amazing. The tour had much more energy and a longer set list than the album. To this day it is one of the best shows I have ever seen.
Mark i agree with you, the tour allowed for a very different vibe without the stress of a tv studio broadcast. In The Evening from the 1995 Tour is a highlight. Thank you so much for watching, stay tuned for Part 2 and then Episode 9 on 1995 :)
Page & Plant reunion so thankful we got it! Love how they also took the unPlugged format and made it their own by doing full band versions of Thank You, What is and what should never be (My fav wish it was on the album) Since Ive been loving you & Kashmir
I agree “Rain song” should have made the cut with new arrangement of Levee…
What an amazing time for me, especially all the live shows that would follow- Having JPJ would have been great but glad I saw him on Zooma tour- Great work JCM
Thank you very much for watching Part 1. Stay tuned for the next episode that focuses on the actual show and a special surprise by Jones :)
Enormously proud of your work and being your brother from another mother. Thank you for documenting our story so elegantly through this fantastic episode, what a homage! Much love and warm fraternal hugs. 🤠
Kashinadie commented. Thank you my dear brother for your historic support from day one. Time is a strange vibration and music the vital infinite. IGNIS MODE!
Yeah😍 finally the episode that I wated the most for!! Thank you so much :)! I especially loved the longer, and very personal intro. fantastic! keep on the great work
You're welcome 😊 Glad you liked the intro, a very small number of viewers have said i should cut these personal recollections, but i want to provide some context. Thank you for watching, Episode 8 Part 2 is out now, stay tuned for Episode 9 on 1995!
Some of this album sounded to me like two radios on at the same time on different stations. A couple of tracks I do like a lot. We want JOHN PAUL JONES!
Great analogy there, i agree! Thank you very much for watching Part 1. Stay tuned for the next episode that focuses on the actual show and a special surprise by Jones :)
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I love the unplugged version of No Quarter. I completely had written off the original. It never grabbed me. The new one sucked me in immediately when I first saw this concert, and is one of the places where updating the old songs really works. I mean, I think the whole album works, and is up there with Led Zep 2 & 4, two of my faves.
Wow, this is one of your favorites? Quite a controversial opinion BUT i respect you tons for saying it. I liked the acoustic No Quarter, somehow they managed to make it darker and closer to the dogs of doom's residence hehe.
Hey 😊 great to see your continuing devotion to bringing us all this amazing history about the Legendary Led Zeppelin story (anyone else believe that in 500 years people will talk about Led Zeppelin like we talk about King Arthur today?). I love your enthusiasm. You are also an incredible Musician. I so hope we can collaborate one day.... life has been super busy recently but it would be an honour to create something. I was pretty stunned recently to see I now have 85 subscribers compared to a year ago when it was 38. Might sound tiny but, just the thought of inspiring one other person with music is sooooo humbling! I just recorded a cover of Thank You, not sure how to share it but wow a really great track to play! Thanks so much for what you do, and sending Peace and Love to you and everyone here from me in the UK ❤
Hey Martin, it's never too late for a music collab :) You'll see! Thank you for watching this one, it was quite special to edit. I am very happy for you that your channel is growing and you keep adding value through your musical content! Stay tuned for the next episode that focuses on the actual show and a special surprise by Jones :)
Excellent video as always JCM, the rain song was released on the gallows pole CD single, should have been on the album! and i agree Ten years gone would've been amazing given the unledded treatment.
Small correction - Buxton is in the middle of nowhere in Derbyshire about 200miles from London, i was lucky to be in attendance for that show.
My thoughts about forgetting jones's number, its simple, the pressure of calling it a zeppelin reunion would have been to much. But the ignorance was unjustified. Looking forward to the next installment and can't wait until we get to zooma which i know you will give jonesy the spotlight he so rightly deserves. ✌❤
Rick, yeah, i know i messed up on the Derbyshire, i wanted to say England as a whole country but somehow i was tired i guess and put London. My bad :) I know the Zeppelin name was something of a dangerous move, but what the hell, how did Robert think Promoters would market this? Come on lol. Thank you very much for watching Part 1. Stay tuned for the next episode that focuses on the actual show and a special surprise by Jones :)
Great video, Jose. I'm a fan of the Great Carlos Montoya, especially Soleares & Malaga. That guy can play!!! I managed to catch 100 P/P shows '95 to '98. I was just happy to see and hear Page play live again, and he did not let me down.
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Edit : Later in the tours, they added Hey Hey What Can I Do & Babe I'm Gonna Leave You, and Ramble On.
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You know your Spanish Guitar man, that's awesome. wow, you watched 100 shows! Goddamn haha. What year was your favorite? For some reason i really like 1998!
@@JCM-LedZeppelin-Stories I would have to say my favorite show was where I saw them play Tea For One. They played it in a handful of shows in '98.
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This has been one of my fav episodes so far, as a fellow musician i liked the intro where you talk about yourself and your musical experience etc. THanks as always ! :-)
Oh man, thanks so much CT, glad you felt the connection with the story. 1994 was a tough year to work, the script was like 15 pages, i kid you not. Hope you enjoy Part 2, it has a lot of stuff too!
I look forward to each and every video you do ;-) @@JCM-LedZeppelin-Stories
Great episode again. Plant saying 'no' to his son-in-law would've created a few awkward family get-togethers. Dad-daughter relationships can be very strong!
yeah, plain & simple, plant's son in law get's the nod, nothing more to be said
Simply fantastic!! Thank you!!
Glad you liked it!Thank you for watching, stay tuned for Episode 9 on 1995!
Amazing video i have been binge watching all of them again , just waiting for saturday to come!. Thank you! Saludos desde Paraguay
Hey Sebastián, saludos hasta Paraguay, que bueno que estás en modo Post Led Zeppelin, ha sido una odisea editarlos :) Espero que disfrutés la segunda parte de Unledded 1994!
@@JCM-LedZeppelin-Stories por supuesto! I'm here for the long run! You re-ignited my love for Zeppelin and i am listening to them everyday and practicing guitar like i never did !
@@JCM-LedZeppelin-Stories lo siento respondí todo en inglés jajaj
JCM Dude...for all the love in the world that's beautiful, will you plse do a deal with Netflix for this. Your content and meticulous attention to detail is extraordinary. You deserve nothing less. Big love from Worcester, England ❤
I wish that'd happen hehe. Thing is Netflix means licensing rights and that is a whole new dimension, with the Zeppelin state lawyers involved, imagine...which also means revising scripts, vetoing stuff. What makes me happy is the growing community here on RUclips of dedicated Zepp fans! Thank YOU very much for watching Part 1. Stay tuned for the next episode that focuses on the actual show and a special surprise by Jones :)
First time seeing Fate of Nations tour clips, my fave album by him. Here he is 45. (I'm 46). He looks great. I see so many musicians in their 40's who look worn out. I just saw Robert & Alison Krause last month. He still sounds and looks great. A real talent.
Yeah, Robert was really hitting the gym! Dating Alannah Myles, Najma Akthar and Tori Amos probably helped too. Plant had charm for sure haha. Thank YOU very much for watching and supporting this project!
I've read somewhere that Jonesy used to be negligent when refering to Robert Lyrics. As Robert said: "“It was always difficult to collaborate with Jonesy because he never listened to the lyrics. I used to talk about a song, and he would say, ‘Now, which song would that be?’ And I’d go, ‘You know, the one on Presence.’ And he’d say, ‘I’m sorry, I’m not familiar with the titles. What key was it in?’ I’d sigh and say, ‘I haven’t a clue, Jonesy.’”
Ask Jones to recall the song in which Plant sang, “All that glitters is gold,” and he’d likely have trouble pulling it. As Plant said, you’d have to put it in musical terms. Tell him it was the song he played five instruments on (including three recorders), and his musically encyclopedic brain would tell you it was “Stairway to Heaven.”
I also read one time ( i think referring to "Achilles last stand "recording) Jonesy saying in a snob way that the other members didn't know really what they were doing musically. Maybe they were not that close as friends, could be a matter of work
That may be true, but why did RP constantly bash him even at live shows in the 70s. The fact that Bonham respected Jones says a lot, i miss Bonzo, he kept Plant grounded lol.
@@JCM-LedZeppelin-Stories may be. People who knew plant say he use to be friendly and pretty down to earth. But is also notorious he's Very sarcastic, critical, and sometimes ofensive in interviews, when talking bout other artists 🤔
Anyway, i love all the four man. Who knows what was happening then, ALL the circuntances around the guys?
I think you are correct. MTV would have made it a Led Zeppelin reunion if Jones were on board, and they may have had more control over the product. I just wish they were more graceful with communicating with JPJ - he was essential in the Zeppelin equation. It also seems Whitesnake fans were outnumbering Zeppelin fans at that point due to Coverdale being a more current sensation. BTW, I think the eagles are ok, but I just don't see them as top dogs like the stones, beatles, pink floyd, or Zeppelin. - but I guess millions of fans prove me wrong. Thanks for revealing so much that I was not aware of despite my Zeppelin fanaticism. Another great episode.
I don't see the EAGLES as top dog either, but that Unplugged show was everywhere, funny right? Hotel California acoustic was actually good, well the intro at least, it was different. Glad you enjoyed this one, the fact you are a hardcore Zeppelin fan is quite an HONOR!
I’ll be honest at the time I was just thrilled to see Page and Plant, being a musician myself I know what a cut throat business it is. I noticed that they played my favorite song Ten Years Gone in Japan (I think) I wish that they would have played it more. But it was disappointing not to see JPJ playing and I knew how Robert was about reunions he had kind of a superstitious kind way about it. Thanks for the work and everything that you do.
Japan had some interesting set lists for sure, these guys knew the bootleg market was heavy there, nothing is a coincidence it seems hehe. Thank you very much for watching Part 1. Stay tuned for the next episode that focuses on the actual show and a special surprise by Jones :)
Unledded was the nice term for Unjonesed. Jokes aside, this was again a very cool video. Thanks for sharing!
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Haha LOVE THE TITLE !!
looking forward to it as always JCM
Hahah glad you did, the title is EVERYTHING on these RUclips Videos i've seen!
It sounded like Plant went for the original pitch for Rock and Roll at the Brazilian concert clip played here which was really surprising.
Yeah, maybe the crazy heat and audience interaction inspired him big time! I really enjoyed this show, the band had a blast. Thank you very much for watching Part 1. Stay tuned for the next episode that focuses on the actual show and a special surprise by Jones :)
Whitesnake Greatest hits album sales comparison is fascinating. Also fascinating is Led Zeppelin album sales in the 90s were bigger than their sales in 70s. Led Zeppelin was one of biggest selling musical artists during the 90s due to the Remastered albums and Page & Plant.
"Man, come on. I had a rough night, and I hate the fucking Eagles, man.". lmao.... You had to mention the fucking Eagles 🤣
Hahahah the Eagles man, i know right? Yeah Whitesnake Greatest Hits gave Coverdale some needed cash after almost 5 years without touring his business. Yes the Page and Plant thing boosted the Remastered Albums, great point! Thank you very much for watching Part 1. Stay tuned for the next episode that focuses on the actual show and a special surprise by Jones :)
Another stellar episode JCM... Personally I think it was unforgivable leaving John Paul Jones out. Subsequently I can't listen to any of the music of that period and really don't rate they're interpretations of the Zep classics, instead I feel they ruined them. I did go to see them on both tours in '95 and ' 98 but really dislike the Walking into Clarksdale AND the Zep re-workings that they performed (hated what they did to Kashmir)....I don't know what Plant's beef with John Paul is, I believe it goes back further than Jones not been present at Karac's funeral. All throughout the 70's, Plant was always making snide comments about Jones in lots of Zep shows. Their was some obvious dislike there on Plant's part. I remember reading of Jones saying he can't remember the titles or lyrics to the songs, but as soon as you say what key it's in he knows what your talking about. Maybe that was Plant's gripe??? Anyway, Zep aside JCM, delighted you also love Friday night in San Francisco ( Saturday night is just as good/maybe even better) probably the greatest popular music guitar album of all time? In fact when you did Kashmir on your nylon strung guitar in your live feed, your solo parts were so Paco sounding I was absolutely blown away. Please, please, more of this please. 👋👋👋
Yes, i feel the ruined them to an extent. Now interesting to think that Bonham didn't hold the Karac Funeral grudge...it was Bonzo who got them back in 1978 really, so it has to be something else what started the Jones-Plant beef, i think i know what it was, but i could never say it on video :) I heard Saturday Night in San Francisco, it was great to listen to that "lost show". Thank you for your kind words David, i will revisit Kashmir acoustic again, you'll see. Stay tuned for the next episode that focuses on the actual show and a special surprise by Jones :)
Mexico, the last Concert of the faith of nations tour. Was a incredible Concert!!!! The best of my life.
Una noche genial definitivamente, la energía fue absoluta. Thank you very much for watching Part 1. Stay tuned for the next episode that focuses on the actual show and a special surprise by Jones :)
Jonsey didn't get invited because Plant didn't want anything near a Zeppelin reunion. I thought that then and I still think that.
Yeah but if Robert really thought about it....how do you think Promoters SOLD this tour? He could have carried his solo tour with the 1993 band, but he wanted to make more money, the venues in the US were getting smaller for him. Thank you very much for watching Part 1. Stay tuned for the next episode that focuses on the actual show and a special surprise by Jones :)
It’s money and control. That’s all it is. Money if they called jones. Then it would be 3 way split But page plant two ways. And they pay bass player 400 $ a gig. (Nite )Maybe little more 700$. .
It’s money plain and simple. Two way split. Call in jones. 3 way split. . They pay gig bass player. 4oo to 500 $ at major concert. It’s sad. But that s real. Calling in jones would cost them millions . They all do it
@@JCM-LedZeppelin-Stories If money was a primary motivating factor for Robert Plant he would not have begun his solo career with five years of "No Led anything" and would not have declined Page's pleas to reform Led Zeppelin in 1986, 1991 & 2008.
As always, love your work and production skills. Email sent bro.
Thanks Tom, i just replied man, appreciate your email it very much!
The modem FX sound in screen transition takes me back
YEAH! Nice one! Glad you feel this way! Thank you for watching, Episode 8 Part 2 is out now, stay tuned for Episode 9 on 1995!
Thank you so much for another fantastic episode. 🌹
You know it Jeremy! Thank you very much for watching Part 1. Stay tuned for the next episode that focuses on the actual show and a special surprise by Jones :)
your uncle was a lot like mine. he owned the kome radio bldg in san jose...my first concert was ELP IN 77.. and i hung around kome untill they let me work there.... i met everyone... and i do mean everyone in rock n roll in the late 70s... my very first job!
Wow that's awesome, what are your favorite moments from those times?
Another great episoede-thank you so much!!!
Glad you enjoyed it!
I love this album and their version of Kashmir is epic. ❤
I agree, I feel a bit disloyal but it is my favourite version of the song 😀😀😀
I gotta stop right now and see this Brazil show. I've never seen Robert Plant so happy on stage. It was bringing me to tears OMG 😳
Wow, RP is taken back by the audience's response during "Babe, I'm Gonna Leave You" and there's a hint of disbelief during the opening riff of "29 Palms" (like Robert saying internally, "oh, they think it's another Zeppelin tune"). But when the audience not only knows the words to "29 Palms" but belt it back louder than Robert, this wave of emotion lifts Plant. During "Goin' to California", it looks like Robert Plant is on a runner's high and even gets gitty in between lyrics.
Watch Page/ Plant live 1995 St Louis Missouri whole concert on video on RUclips . I was there Page and Plant saw a crowd that shocked them top5 show of both tours from them . I saw them again in 98 it for me was more hard rocking Zep and again amazing show no video of that show unfortunately .
Man, the Brazil show is CLASS A STUFF. Please watch! I love the fact the audience sang with him, on 29 Palms. That must have felt great selling half the copies Coverdale Page did hehe.
Excellent as all ways 👍👍
Thank you very much for watching Part 1. Stay tuned for the next episode that focuses on the actual show and a special surprise by Jones :)
I had a friend who went to the Paco, Mc Laughlin, Di Meola tour off that album. Steve Morris who played with Deep Purple was the opener playing an acoustic set.
Get out, WHAT'S that Killer Lineup you speak of! Morse as opener, WOW! Thank you for watching, Episode 8 Part 2 is out now, stay tuned for Episode 9 on 1995!
@@JCM-LedZeppelin-Stories it was the tour in support of the one night in San Francisco album. He opened several dates on acoustic and people didn't know who he was. He was not that well known. He may have started.the Dixie Dregs but not that known..People told me about the Kingsbury Hall Show in Salt Lake City Utah. They couldn't quit talking about Steve said he was as good as the Trio. When would that be? Like 82? I'll see if I can Google. 1983 but I couldn't see an archive date for that hall or Abravanel Hall. Closest was Nov 83 in Denver. It would have been around that. I may have got location messed up but it would have been about that time in 83 maybe Denver or San Diego or I may have got a BS story from friends, lol
I'm so excited for this!
Thank YOU very much for watching and supporting this project!
Great vid.....as a Zep fan from way back, thanks!
Honored to have a long time Zepp Fan watch this! From a Zepp fans to Zepp fans, THANK YOU ! Episodes 8, 9 and 10 are out now too!
I do believe that "Ten Years Gone" is terribly missing, no only on the CD, but on tours.
Here some trivia about the venues they did back then in Brasil: Rio's Praça da Apoteose is no less than the Sambódromo ("sambadrome"), where every year's Carnival Parade is set, with all those Samba Leagues (we call them "escolas de samba") competing like it was a World Cup. Sao Paulo's Morumbi is a soccer stadium that could seat 105 thousand at those times (it shrank later) and alleged 45.000 more standing on the green. We never had the precise numbers, because show's promoters used to sell way more tickets than the informed numbers, so they kept the extra money to themselves. It happened on Queen's 1981 show, when producers informed authorities and the band's personnel they'd be selling 120.000 tickets, but there was about 200.000 souls compressed into the stadium, and God only knows how it ended up with nobody seriously hurt. The "Hollywood Rock" logomark didn't refer to the place: it was a Cigarrette brand name.
Maybe i can TRY and record a Ten Years Gone Unledded version one day :) Thank you SO much for these fascinating bits of information on their Brazil shows. I think they were the pinnacle of this TOUR and project.
Amazing - the Peter Grant interview must have been done with Canada's MuchMusic ('the nation's music station!). I recognise the interviewer. Kim Clarke-Champniss
Yeah, it was done in Toronto, great catch there man! Thank you very much for watching Part 1. Stay tuned for the next episode that focuses on the actual show and a special surprise by Jones :)
That Rio show looks amazing.
Great crowd.
Right? Robert should release that officially if he has the tapes...what a SHOW!
Win Amp.. holy shit, I haven't heard that on years. I forgot all about those days😅
Hahah you know it! Winamp is one of those names that hits you right in the nostalgia part of the brain right? Thank you very much for watching, hope you enjoy the rest of the series!
Kashmir is the highlight of this album. Better than the PG original version , if it's possible. Of course the myriads of typical instruments and the expertise of the guest musicians contibuted. Love JCM documentaries and his voice over here is great. Love it.
Errr no way JPJ's keyboards make Kashmir the giant it will remain, not this fake version which is at best a tribute.
@@paulhoughton5431 @marilynmeissner even in poor technical Conditions, I love John Paul Jones & and LED Zeppelin performances of kashmir. When i say i prefer page & plant version is not because a possible Jones work lack of quality. On the contrary, Jones keyboard is magistral always. But even being the Genius he is, he emulates a eastern orquestra in his original arranjment. As a consequence hearing a orquestra playing kashmir is to hear what Heard on his mind when creating kashmir keyboard part, and probably closer to his idea, cause he hás a orquestral musical mind. And of course the page plant version is not a tribute because was conceived and performed by themselves with a luxurious help of the orquestra. It would be a tribute If It played by me or other musicians ( as in Encomium). Zep music is só rich musically and formally speaking that allows other aproaches which eventuallly expands the original. Only fanatic minds with no musical or cultural antropological perspective would think their work is closed in itself.
I think arrangement wise it can be "better" than Graffiti with all the Zeppelin controversy THAT brings. But...what proves that theory wrong is and let me save you time, is ALL the Page Plant versions i've had to listen over and over again for my research. The Egyptian feel works 2, or 3 spins TOPS. Then the effect wears off, and no disrespect to Hossam Ramzy, he WAS A GENIUS, 100%. Kashmir studio version can be revisited 100 times and what works is what you IMAGINE and perceive in the invisible 3D construction of it! Thank YOU very much for watching and supporting this project!
Un-leaded would’ve been Un-even had Jones been brought into the fold. It’d have opened fanfare shouting of “do a reunion” and that’s exactly what they didn’t want. Like you said; it was a purely political move.
Yeah, it's tricky right LUVBASSES, the man himself! I mean, i get it yes, don't want the Zeppelin name, but man...the numbers and stats really make these guys look bad lol. Thank you very much for watching Part 1. Stay tuned for the next episode that focuses on the actual show and a special surprise by Jones :)
Money.
I know. By nature it seemed to us out here on the other side that they purely snubbed him. Let’s face it, the clock was ticking, they got this idea to go out and re-spin up some of their songs and make some money and tour again. But man they looked bad by completely ignoring the secret Zeppelin weapon all those years ago. They guy who helped pull them through during the dark days. The music business shouldn’t ever mingle with personal sentiments. You should not let yourself get attached to others but it’s gotta be tough when you live with them for so many years. It can be a cutthroat biz for sure.
Another amazing installment Jose. Just the statistics alone must have been a nightmare. Like I said before, a doco series that will last the ages. I went to the No Quarter Concert 29/2/96 and recorded the most sh!t bootleg on 2 x cassette tapes via a Walkman. I'll send you a copy if you want it but its 1.2 GB
I love gathering stats you know? I guess that's what 90s NBA does to a kid hehe. Wow, you have a bootleg of that show? Man yeah, i would love to hear it! Send it to jcm1129films@gmail.com Thank you very much for watching Part 1. Stay tuned for the next episode that focuses on the actual show and a special surprise by Jones :)
Hey Jose, well done on this! Looks like you've been very busy.
"With the obvious exclusion of jpj... shut up!" 😂
Ten years gone would have been great, dare I say...they may have needed Jonesy's 3 legged dog to play that one? Plus I think jpj used to play the bass for that with foot pedals. (The world's best everythingest am I right?!)
Btw I sent you an email not sure is it may have gone to your spam mate?
Anyways, I wanted to go see them in 1995 but the tickets were too expensive for me at the time. One of my friends attended and he said, it was the loudest and best concert he's ever been too!
Cheers Paul 😊👍
I've been super busy yes hahahah. Imagine Jones there. Paul i believe i got your email, did you get my response?
@@JCM-LedZeppelin-Stories to the very first one yes, not a second email my friend. Haha
WONDERFUL ONE was an original. That should have gotten more attention. Its a beautiful song.
It has a very nice vibe to it, maybe, just maybe, cut a small portion out, it's a bit repetitive, but I LOVED it.
I was 24 years old when Unleded MTV thing was gonna happen. I told my friend mark about it and showed up at his apartment with a case of beer and we watched it. I was just blown away. When they toured I seen them in San Diego, Then Irvine Meadows, then in 1998 again in San Diego, CA.
So cool you saw them LIVE, i think it was the best way to see this project past the VHS!
Dude, this is so awesome. Ur one helluva Zeppelin fan. Thank you for vid
Thank you Dale, glad you enjoyed Part 1 of 2, stay tuned for the next episode that focuses on the actual show and a special surprise by Jones :)
Was really exciting to hear there was finally this get together after years of thinking it was just a dream, knowing there was a tour also had me running out the door. The JPJ issue seemed to be easily forgotten? Of course that would have seemed too much like a full Zep reunion and after hearing things like “sometimes it was difficult to work with Jonesy” and looking at most song credits, Page & Plant sounded cooler and was more played down but crucially rang a bell with fans who’d studied the old album sleeves for song credits, Lennon & Mcartney would have done this had Lennon not died…
I'm sure the Millions of Dollars made by the Page Plant tours didn't make Jones feel better....but hey, such is the music business a place of "friends" and "broken levees" hehe. Thank YOU very much for watching and supporting this project!
JPJ was always the high octane fuel in Led Zep engine, he's never going to get excited on an engine running on UNLEDDED.
GOOD POINT hehe, Nice one!
1994 was a very active year for me, I was 27, I live in San Fernando Valley, went to Austin Texas in January to join band friend's that lived there, I played the drums for them, The Earthquake hit San Fernando Valley two weeks after I got to Austin Texas, I came back to San Fernando Valley in April 1994, then went to Reno Nevada in September of 1994, by December I finally heard the Page and Plant No Quarter album, I wasn't listening or playing music at all since I left Austin but rather spending a lot of time with family in Reno, when I did hear Page and Plant, I heard it on the radio, it was Kashmir, I was shocked.
The 90s were a special time indeed, wished i was 27 back then, but still as a kid it was magic. Thanks for sharing your life experience on the comments, i appreciate it!
Ten Years Gone would have been perfect. Might be my favorite all-time Zeppelin track.
Yeah, the way it builds from acoustic to the ending is great! Thank you very much for watching Part 1. Stay tuned for the next episode that focuses on the actual show and a special surprise by Jones :)
Needs JPJ's though, and they did not ask him? Friends is the same, guitar work sounds thin, JPJ's gave Zeppelin depth.
Saw that 1980 tour of DiMeola McLaughlin and De Lucia at the Calderone in Hempstead Long Island. They broke into Jumpin Jack Flash at one point to great laughter and applause. Paco kicked serious ass.
NO WAY, what a SHOW you witnessed. Man Paco was scary in his playing, Di Meola knew it and Paco punched him once outside a recording studio for acting like a douche LOL. John McLaughlin really got along with Paco, their 1987 Montreux stuff is amazing!
Hi Jose 👋 what’s up? Another excellent work with the trademark JCM 😁 honestly speaking, I don't usually get too attached to the adventures of the duo Page/Plant…they are half of my heart but a half doesn't make a whole, if you know what I mean. I miss Jonesy and especially Bonzo. P&P were in good company but…it was impossible to have Bonham but why not Jones? After all, he is alive and continues to be an excellent musician. I know that from a certain time on, JPJ didn't feel very comfortable with the ravings of the boys at the time of Zepp, he even stayed in different hotels but even so, a little bit of the dirt spilled over on him 😂 anyway, they had their reasons but I have I'm sure if Jonesy was with them, the success would be much, much bigger and the shows would be stellar. I watch the stuffs Jimmy did with other people because Jimmy is Jimmy, he's my most beloved guitar player and I follow with interest what JPJ is doing but nothing will ever be like it was back when there was a unicorn called Led Zeppelin. Interesting to know that you are Latino, I lived in Brazil for three years and one year in Peru, I am fluent in Portuguese and speak reasonably Spanish. I lived in Brazil when Page had a house there but I was a teenager so my dad never allowed me to get close to him 😂 “when you're an adult it's fine but not now!” he said (I met Jimmy in person only in 2014) my dad also lived in Argentina, but I went back to Japan because I was tired of studying with tutors. Btw, there are some fun stories about Jimmy in those years that he had a home in Brazil... Jose, I'm looking forward to seeing what the surprise is in the next episode... about Jonesy. Thank you, for now! 😊
Omg Marcia you lived in Latin America! That's very interesting. You need to share more please. Email me and we can talk about it! Thank you for tuning in to this one, it was quite a challenge to make hehe.
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I saw the Unledded Tour in Dallas. I didn't think much of it, and I never saw another show.
The volume level, the sound pressure level that I heard, in the balcony was less, than what I regularly achieved when I listened to Rock music in my home. I guess I've seen too many Led Zeppelin shows, and expect Led Zeppelin songs to be performed 'loud'.
The Biggest disappointment for me was "Kashmir." My disappoint comes from comparing the P&P performance, to what I heard LZ perform in 1977. The P&P performance was "Kashmir Light." That did have a good effect on me, in that I left half way through "Kashmir" and beat all of the traffic out of the parking lot.
That said, I cherish the 2007 O2 performance of "Kashmir," which I consider the best dynamic recording in existence. Since there is not the quality of recording for any of Zeppelin's recordings prior, this O2 performance is the ONLY "Kashmir" I ever listen to.
It comes the closest to the power and the glory of what I experienced in 1977. I consider "Kashmir" the pinnacle of Zeppelin live, over STH, WLL, and D&C. I am glad that they chose to highlight "Kashmir" for their show in 2007. JPJ is the secret sauce, without which, make all other attempts, like P&P fall short, for me.
And finally, creatively, LZ died when John Bonham was no longer a part of the group. I respect their decision to not continue after John's death. Bonzo was the "Heart & Soul" of Led Zeppelin... their Biggest Fan, imo.
wow, you left halfway through kashmir, says it all, but hey can't blame you if you experienced the 1977 version. The 2007 version is the best dynamic recording, agree. I revisit this Kashmir as well. The part at the end where they almost went for the ascending scale but Jones realized Jimmy was not there yet and SAVED the track was awesome. Bonzo was the Heart and Engine, you're right! Thank you very much for watching Part 1. Stay tuned for the next episode that focuses on the actual show and a special surprise by Jones :)
1994 was one of the busiests years of my life. I graduated high school, got my first ever girlfriend, went on a month-long vacation to my home state, and decided to join the military, so I really wasn't up on much in the way of news, especially once my high school graduation came around. So the Unledded project hit without me hearing about it and I was quite shocked. All of a sudden I was seeing Page and Plant play songs with an Egyptian orchestra on MTV! What witchery is this? How did this happen? I got to enjoy it for all of a month before I left for Marine Corps boot camp, but I certainly didn't forget about it. After 11 weeks of boot camp, I bought the album on cassette at the PX on MCRD San Diego, and didn't even get to listen to it until a week later. Of course I enjoyed it, but it was definitely missing something with Jones' absence. And it wasn't as if Jonesy wouldn't have been up to the task, his work on that collab with Diamanda Galas was superb (although I can't stand Galas). Still, though, at that time I was much more happy with what we had than worried about what we didn't. I loved that rendition of Kashmir along with Gallow's Pole. I didn't hear their version of The Rain Song until well after the fact, and I agree, it's a shock as to why it wasn't included on the album. But overall, in retrospect Unledded really did feel more like a Plant solo project that Page just happened to play on. Walking into Clarksdale has much of the same feel, actually.
You're right on the money, Unledded sounded like Plant's solo career. I am eager to dive into Walking into Clarksdale. Glad you mentioned Galas...she is coming up next on Part 2, stay tuned :)
Thank you JCM!
I almost became sick again thinking about the way Jonesy found out about unledded. Then calling it No Quarter! I understand not including him but be better than that..he deserved and earned better!!!
As a Zeppelin fan since 1980 ..waiting for a reunion..waiting..this was the best I would get Page and Plant. I saw them in 1995 and 1998. They were great..
Hey Jimmy! Thanks so much for sharing your comment and tuning in to Part 1 of 2. I will talk about the Page and Plant tour, there's moments i enjoyed, it's not like i will bash them for playing together. Unledded did require the Jones debacle!
Awesome, as usual....
AmpTechRon the man himself! Thank you very much for watching Part 1. Stay tuned for the next episode that focuses on the actual show and a special surprise by Jones :)
Let's face it. JPJ is the most badass member of Led Zeppelin
100% !!!!
Great call on the cranberry juice!
It quenched my thirst and rant :) Thank you very much for watching Part 1. Stay tuned for the next episode that focuses on the actual show and a special surprise by Jones :)
Good as always
Thank you very much for watching Part 1. Stay tuned for the next episode that focuses on the actual show and a special surprise by Jones :)
Me encantaria oir todo esto en español. Que buen trabajo
Muchas gracias Aldo! Es una buena idea para un proyecto financiado por suscriptores hispanoparlantes. Dado que hay una audiencia mayor anglosajona lo hice en el idioma original de la obra de Led Zeppelin. Pienso que via Patreon podria obtener los fondos para esta tarea monumental :) Gracias por sintonizar. Espero disfrutes el resto de la serie 1990s.
Thank you for this knowledge and video.
Thank you very much for watching Part 1. Stay tuned for the next episode that focuses on the actual show and a special surprise by Jones :)
Yeah a spot appearance by JPJ in LA, NY and London would have been epic
Awesome episode Jose!!!! I’ve been waiting for this and it did not disappoint! Can’t wait for episode 2!! ❤❤ I agree, 10 Years Gone would’ve been sick, never thought of it being on Unledded. UnJonese’d!! Funny not funny! Excellent words on the whole Jonesy situation. I agree 100%!!!! Thanks man!!!!!❤❤❤❤❤
Matt i'm so glad you enjoyed this one, man i was SO excited to share this one, 1994 got me immersed in the story like 1993 but different, i took it somewhat personal on the Jones dismissal. Thank you very much for watching Part 1. Stay tuned for the next episode that focuses on the actual show and a special surprise by Jones :)
Looking forward to this 👍
Hey Keith, hope you enjoy this one, it was very special.
Sorry was on a mini vacaton , getting to this now.
Excellent work as usual. I can only imagine what you're going to say about the hot mess that is Walking Into Clarksdale.
Tell me about it hehe, i am eager to go there, i don't like the cover, that i can tell you upfront! Thank you very much for watching Part 1. Stay tuned for the next episode that focuses on the actual show and a special surprise by Jones :)
@JCM-LedZeppelin-Stories What more can be said? The production was muddled (Albini was a bad choice) the songs seemed half formed and it just didn't seem like their hearts were in it. It was just bad. The title track was the only halfway decent song. The rest was disappointing.
Yeah I mean I get it not having jones. It would have been a different thing all together. But page wasn’t going to pass it up. He’s been wanting and still wanting to work with Plant and play zeppelin tunes. Imop it was irresistible for Plant once he heard pages playing in the CP LP. He got his shit together and say by 96 was getting his second wind. Close to 75 level. Pages best playing post zeppelin was early 90s-‘00s. But yeah as a zep fan it would have been epic if they reunited in the 90s.
A great opportunity was lost indeed. Thank you very much for watching Part 1. Stay tuned for the next episode that focuses on the actual show and a special surprise by Jones :)
Thanks!
Thank you RC! MUCH APPRECIATED!
🌠Duuude ! Another Good One !!! U Rock !!!
You know it Greg, thanks so much man! Stay tuned for Part 2!
Another awesome video 🤘🤘 I really look forward to these .
I loved the unjones’d title 😂 sad to think they could spend 12 years together and they can’t speak to him in person about what they had planned , that’s really bad form
Yeah, it's ridiculous really, 12 years is a long time. Robert Plant the solo artist is a STRANGE man. Thank you very much for watching Part 1. Stay tuned for the next episode that focuses on the actual show and a special surprise by Jones :)
I think the very fact that they called it Un-Leded says they were trying to make it very obvious this was NOT going to be a Zep reunion,…..though like you said, the tour and the next one might say otherwise. At the time I remember thinking if they asked JPJ to come onboard they there would be the obvious push to make it a full Zep reunion that even at the time I knew how Robert would have hated that. The fact that they didn’t tell him about it and explain to him the situation is a shame though. On another note, in the following tour they did play I think pretty much every song you mentioned that was missed from the unplugged show, hey hey what can I do, in the evening, ramble on, tea for one, they even played Ten Years Gone in their amazing run in Japan in ‘95 at least once, check it out if you haven’t! (TYG is one of my personal favorite songs too ❤)
Maybe the 1994 show was Unledded, but the TOUR that followed had a very Ledded intention you know? It's funny AND sad! Thank you for watching, Episode 8 Part 2 is out now, stay tuned for Episode 9 on 1995!
It was ultimately titled Un-ledded because the showcase Robert (only) was initially offered in September 1993 was MTV Unplugged. Robert invited Jimmy to collaborate with him, and in doing so the project evolved into No Quarter: Jimmy Page & Robert Plant: Un-Ledded. I'll leave it to fans to speculate if No Quarter has a double-meaning alluding to not calling JPJ.
I welcomed unledded into my life, I grew up on Zeppelin, it was an integral part of my musical education, their music to me is familiar in a sense of like it is to be family.
So, when I hit play on that album, I knew JPJ wasn't there, however I trusted Page and Plant must have had their reasons, what was unleashed was a whole new musical texture and landscape.
I HATE the sound of Ovation acoustics so Page had some work to do to impress me, but that version of No Quarter grabbed me straight away, but not before I was taken on a whole new fresh journey through Nobodies Fault but Mine which was soooo cool, they tore it apart down to the roots of where that song came from, very well done and sitting in the key of G brought out some nice tone from Plant, and a nice standard version of Thank You which has Page asserting himself as the great rock guitar player he can be. Everything he did up this point was a bit "wiggly", a bit hit and miss, a few moments on Outrider were great but here the texture of Page and Plant together was emotional for me. That voice, that guitar.
When they hit Since I've been loving you, it was tears of joy, Page can play with huge emotion and he brought Tea for One, and I'm gonna Crawl into the SIBLY canvas, his playing is so careful and delicate, yet powerful.....
I didn't really like their new songs, but understood it was something of unfinished business for them bringing the "street" into their music from those cultures, where I did click with it was the version of Kashmir, that encapsulated everything about that eastern sound, I loved it, and still do.
As far as the omission of JPJ, we'll never know, but I feel JPJ was separating himself from the band post '77, never traveled with them or stayed with them on tour, he just turned up and played, IMO there was already a wedge between JPJ and the rest of the band.....And also, I feel we would have got something quite different and perhaps something not as "fresh", maybe Page and Plant wanted the room to explore the songs in a different light, which I feel they did so well....Who knows, its all speculation at the end of the day....
BUT, when it came to the tours, it would have been fitting to have JPJ with them, because it was pretty much 99% Zeppelin!! But they didnt and we got what we got. I was not disappointed.
Pretty cool to hear Plant singing Shake my Tree on the 1995 tour though!!
Great Doco, very thought provoking!!
Your words are filled with great points and perspectives, thank you for sharing these Kev! You are right on Page channeling Tea for One and I'm Gonna Crawl into since for sure, it has the Latter Day Zepp vibe!
Saw this show in Philadelphia was quite good 👍
Thank you very much for watching, hope you enjoy the rest of the series!
I attended that show as well. Excellent show, but I thought it was a little too loud. The acoustics in the Spectrum were poor. MSG in New York was always the best venue to see/hear a band. PS: I had tickets for the Philly show at JFK that was canceled in 1977. It would have been my first rock concert.
Another good one man, thanks for making it!
Long comment coming up!
Right now I'm only up to the point of the end of the JPJ rant. Had to stop and make a comment while it's fresh on my mind.
I agree that it was very rude of those two not inviting him and they way they went about it it.
However it was actually not all that surprising when Page/Plant's collaboration was announced.
I can remember reading some magazine articles from the late 80s/early 90s where Page and (maybe) Plant kinda shit on him. I can remember specifically getting vibes that they kinda thought he was baggage compared to Bonham. Like saying something like, "yeah, he was ok. Sometimes." I remember being shocked at the time.
I am super glad he didn't do the gig tho. Would have absolutely ruined Zep for me. Unledded kinda seemed pretty goofy at the time to me as it was, and had they done it as Almost Zeppelin or something, it would have destroyed their legacy. Of course I was excited when it was announced, but when I saw it I was like, "wow, cheesy." Expecting a kick ass show reminiscent of a Zep show was too high of an expectation.
Other comment: You're right, 10 Years Gone woulda been great. Potentially better than Zep ever did it live. They coulda just done it as is on record along with the Indian stuff.....even the loud parts coulda been loud....and it woulda been really great. That tune deserves a good live rendition, although when the Crowes did it, it was pretty good. Coulda used a Bonham on drums tho!
Keep up the good work, and thanks again!
When Unledded came out, nobody cared too much thar Jones was missing - we were too blown away at the two leads playing and recording together again - and much was made by the likes of Plant of NOT wanting to call it 'Led Zep' with all that would come from doing so.
Yeah i can understand that. Specially after almost 15 years of waiting for Page and Plant to work on a project like this. I still believe Jones could have played on the tour and get some of those 20 million dollars they made throughout the 90's you know? ....out of principle. Principle of Moments ;)
Led Zeppelin "UnJonesed", "Uninvited". Says it all. A true injustice.
Unjonessed is an UNJUSTICE FOR ALL! Thanks so much for tuning in Tom! Stay tuned for the next episode that focuses on the actual show and a special surprise by Jones :)
Ten Years Gone full acoustic, without this beautifull electric solo close to the end? It would be an average snoozer :DDD I understand why they didn't invated JPJ - I belive it was business decision, made ofcourse by Plant, carrere wise he got the upper hand. He was afraid that this project would become full blown reunion with tour and eventually new record. But during tour him and Page quickly realised that without songs wrote with JPJ they really got nothing so they ended up playing only LZ staff and THIS enraged JPJ, because being excluded from tours with (almost) only LZ material cost him lots and lots of money. I'm very glad that now JPJ got finally recognition he deserve - brilliant musician still musicaly relevant (TCV) in R&R world and driving force behind LZ. Thank you, Jose.
Maybe Ten Years Gone with Porl Thompson on acoustic guitar and Jimmy on electric :) Yeah man, JPJ was left out good money, i still think the world needs to further recognize Jones and Bonham as co-writers for Zeppelin songs, Jimmy alone couldn't have come up with the rhythm arrangements for say...Presence! Thank you very much for watching Part 1. Stay tuned for the next episode that focuses on the actual show and a special surprise by Jones :)
@@JCM-LedZeppelin-Stories Yeah, some time ago we both agreed that JPJ saved Presence. Bonham was a genius of drums, period. His sound is so unique that you can't mistake his play with no one else whatever he was author of that particular song or not (song he recorded with McCartney is good example). JPJ work is "invisible" and he don't help himself eighter - he don't care about recognition, to the extend that for years people often thought Page and Plant were founding members of LZ, not him and Page. I'm looking foward for the next episode :)
Always found it rather ironic to bill this reunion as No Quarter and leave out John Paul Jones... Thanks for your keen insight on the reasons for leaving JPJ behind, you brought up some very good points. Thanks again for the good work
Hey Maxime, and also, a point i missed.....If Bonham thought not attending Karac's funeral was a definite breakup he would have left the band with Plant but no...he insisted on getting back together in 1978 so, that tells you a lot too. Thank you very much for watching Part 1. Stay tuned for the next episode that focuses on the actual show and a special surprise by Jones :)
El 25 de Enero de 1994 Robert Plant se presentó en Caracas y yo no me enteré, cómo pudo pasar éso? 😱😭😭 En el 1993 yo vi allá a Santana, Peter Gabriel, Jon Anderson, Rick Wakeman y Charly García!
Impresionante Christian! Yo disfruté encontrar esa información, que tal es el venue en donde se presentó Plant?
@@JCM-LedZeppelin-Stories Una mierd.... Hicieron pocos conciertos allí porque era como presentar a ésos artistas en un parque infantil, jaja!
Page and Plant may handled the JPJ thing in uncaring manner - just a two minute phone call would have been fine - but I think they sure handled their post-Zeppelin careers fine. Bonzo died, they called it quits for THE perfect reason, each did some solo stuff, then finally felt that enough time had gone by and it just felt like it was time to work together again and to explore the Indian thing they had touched on years earlier.
That La Ley Unplugged album is killer.
Yeah, even though it was everywhere, i recognized its value! Thank you for watching, episode 8 is out now, stay tuned for Episode 9 on 1995!
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Some could argue that John Paul Jones was a main ingredient in Zeppelin's versatility. Obviously Page is adept at many styles but Jones brought in that progressive edge that put them on another level creatively and kept Led Zeppelin from being in fact New Yardbirds or some kind of Humble Pie II
Spot on! Like Sabbath without Geezer Butler!!
Wow this is a GREAT comment....Humble Pie 2. This is GOLD, the depth of this comparison is EPIC! Thank YOU very much for watching and supporting this project!
@@JCM-LedZeppelin-Stories Humble Pie had a brilliant, charismatic singer, a wunderkind drummer, a great, versatile lead guitarist and an able bassist . What they didn't have was a classically trained , multi- instrumentalist arranger/ producer with a gift for composition and who commanded enough respect to get his ideas included on the records. It's a credit to Page , being the undisputed leader of the band, that he was wise enough to not only recognize Jones's worth but to encourage his input.
I love the bumber music: "Boots and cats and boots and cats . . . "
Heheh you know it!
Plant guilty of big time hypocrisy. Played plenty of Zep numbers to resurrect flagging career (most, if not all of the solo albums had a fair share of duds). Also chose to tour places where Zep never or rarely toured, so where demand would be high & comparisons with the real deal would be non existent...
It's hard to think otherwise right? I think he managed to break this cycle somewhat past 2010? Money makes the world go round they say! Thank you very much for watching Part 1. Stay tuned for the next episode that focuses on the actual show and a special surprise by Jones :)
@@JCM-LedZeppelin-Stories Struggling to be charitable to RP, ego & avarice. JP went along with the betrayal of JPJ, as he was also looking at the profit share and likely knew JPJ would upstage (them both) doing the musical rearrangements and orchestration
I think he was left out because the media would have gone into a frenzy saying it’s a Zep reunion. I’d say Robert was behind leaving JPJ out not Jimmy.
Even still in '98 when I saw them live, normies were calling Page & Plant Led Zep.
I think that’s a big part of it. Plant has been steadfastly opposed to a true reunion tour. As great as the No Quarter show and album was, it would have benefitted from JPJ’s playing and arranging.
@@TateGg-ji5lf Agreed, that hat makes JCM's ITTOD documentary so sad. Finally, Jones & Plant were connecting. The two most different of Zep personalities, and rightly so creating the band's most dynamic work.
@TateGg-ji5lf I don't understand why Plant never really respected Jonesy after Led Zeppelin. Those two literally carried the band between 1977-80 while Pagey, Bonzo and Grant were destroying themselves with hard drugs and alcohol. I wonder if Plant also has a grudge towards him to this day since he found his life long best friend Bonham dead upstairs in Jimmy's old mill house and told him about it in September 1980. Plant as nice and charming as he always seems to be to everyone is also can be a very pompous and sensitive brat as well.
Arrogant.
realy loved this but i concur with JCM about JPJ
Thank you Little Red, this episode i was eager to share with you guys! Stick around for Part 2, the excitement continues!
Yet again your review is spot on JCM. This album and the whole unplugged era was over indulgent rock star bile. I struggled to re listen to No Quarter, god knows what JPJ's thought about it? Robert over sings on just about every track. Jimmy's playing on Thank You is awful, as he could be live. At the time (94) I wondered whether they were I'll advised releasing this? Britain at the time was in the throws of an indi explosion. Bands like Blur, Oasis, Manic Street Preachers, The Wildhearts etc were kicking arse big time. No Quarter was so out of place, it was a joke really. Some of the tracks included Robert's new found Middle Eastern wail in them which frankly was just annoying. Coverdale must have thought WTF dumped for this!!
This whole exercise reminded everyone that there were four people in Led Zeppelin, two just is not good enough. I resisted watching them in 95, but finally went in 98 when Jimmy had found his chops again, for probably one of the last times. I bet you hated revisiting this album, some of it is truly cringe worthy. And this was 10 years after Spinal tap!! Keep up the great work. Looking forward to the Walking Into Clarksdale shambles episode which is not much better, but has less wailing at least!
Spot on the comment of Coverdale thinking "i got dumped for this" lol. He knew it was a money thing right? I like the 1998 Tour, A LOT. I hated revisiting Unledded yes, and also because of a personal story i can only share via email lol.
babe i’m gonna leave you and ramble on were the 2 opening songs played sydney entertainment centre they came out as a 4 piece for about an hour and just rocked before bringing out the ‘orchestra’ for 2 nd half👌🏼
Nice, i am revisting the Australian gigs, not a lot of recordings available it seems, but very good energy.
@@JCM-LedZeppelin-Stories any down under footage would i’d be guessing ,rare as hen’s teeth😅i mentioned this comment as quite a few of the songs you mentioned as possible addition’s to unledded disc were played in that first hour or so another being ‘over the hills and far away’ and ‘ten years gone’ they also played a killer version of ‘whole lotta love’ which ran for a good 20 minutes with in the improvised section broke into about 4 songs including a elvis rendition and the doors’break on through’ there was no ‘in through the outdoor’ songs as i imagine would of been a further kick in the guts for jones as it was really his album😩lovin your work jose☝🏻
Buxton Opera house is not in London - it’s about 200 miles north in a place called Derbyshire
Yup, my bad there, i mean England as a country being fully aware Derbyshire is not London :)
Hate to say but by then, early 94.... Plant was a caricuture of himself. He needed a change.
He was, while the Brazil gigs were awesome, he was not ready to carry on like this. He needed change as your said! Thank you for watching, Episode 8 is out now! stay tuned for Episode 9 on 1995!