The best sounding C8 Corvette exhaust! 2M Fab Headers, Cats and CBE
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- Опубликовано: 29 сен 2024
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The setup; 2M fabrication catback exhaust, 2M fabrication headers and 2M fabrication high flow 200 cell cats with 02 sensor spacers and Catalytic converter blankets.
I haven’t had any Check engine lights or lean conditions. The C8 comes from the factory with dual wideband 02 sensors, so the setup is very safe. I am in no way related to 2M fabrication, this was not a paid promotion nor a recommendation to make any financial decisions. Purchase at your own risk.
Most 1 7/8th headers will sound like this.
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this sounds so much better than the c8 z06 imo. you have the best sounding c8 stingray for sure, this is how a corvette should sound!
Agreed!
Your opinion is wrong. Unless you are able to hear both in person and drive both...just shut up
Sounds really cool when you are on it. I’m sorry to say though, that idle isn’t chop chop at all.
its a very light chop, simply because of the scavenging headers. It's probably harder to hear through the mic although it def doesnt have the distinct chop of a high duration Camshaft.
That sounds great man! I've been researching exhausts for months for my C8, this setup is top 3 for sure.
This is the best exhaust I’ve heard on the C8 great job, car looks and sounds great 🔥
Thanks brother
Sounds sick!
How much was the total on all your custom parts + installation?
The prices change periodically. You’ll have to research the products individually. As for installation, I install all of my own parts with the exception of mounting tires simply because I don’t currently have a tire machine and balancer.
Gorgeous car man, Chevy really knocked it out of the park with the new vette.
Thanks brother
Do the sport cats quiet down? Vs full cat delate.
Slightly yes.
My wife and kids and neighbors will hate me if i get that exhaust. Hmmmmm
Do it anyways 😂
Not the kids
Kids will love it
lovit i need te
Thank you for the video. I think it sounds great and good sound clips too. I have the 2M Fab. sport cats and a titanium cat back and it sounds legit and very loud where I have to have my garage door shut to start the car in the early am, but that's a rare occasion. Now thinking of the 2M Fab. headers, so your video is helping me make that decision. My current set up not only sounds 200% better, but feels 200% better too. I only want to drive in manual mode to hear all of the up and down shifts.
Do you have to tune it after installing headers?
No, the c8 comes with dual wide band o2 sensors from the factory and the ecu makes corrections if needed.
The headers could benefit even more from a tune but it is not a requirement.
Can u send the link where u bought it?
Google search 2 m fabrication. I typically put the links in my video descriptions and only remove them if the manufacture changed the URL.
Is this CARB complient?
Probably not. Run the factory cats if you’re worried about that.
Sounds like music to me.
do you need retuen after this set up
Nope, the c8 has factory wideband o2 sensors that tell the ECU to make adjustments.
@@GhostSpeedShop DOES this set affect warranty
Probably, but the dealer would have to prove these broke your vehicle which probably won’t happen. Install at your own risk or stick with the catback setup only.
I did this to mine. did you do a tune? Does yours shoot flames? it sounds amazing!
No need for a tune, it can shoot flames when the car is warmed up all the way
@@GhostSpeedShop Nice! I'll have to get videos of mine. I was referring to tune for the mods to be balanced/work best, not shooting flames. Thanks again.
Thankfully the o2 sensors are factory wide bands and the ecu makes some adjustments on its own! It would be fun to see how much this setup makes on an unlocked ecu and proper tune though.
hey man! my c8 has the same setup basically. but ive been debating if i should get the 2m exhaust. it just feels bad cuz i spent 1.6k on the NPP exhaust with black tips from factory and i do enjoy driving quietly sometimes. do you think the 2m fab exhaust is THAT much louder than the NPP and a different tone? hows the "quiet" mode vs NPP.
It’s quieter but nothing like stock. If you want quiet, don’t go with a permanent exhaust and stick with the factory one.
@@GhostSpeedShop thanks for the input! with the windows up, it doesnt sound loud at all from the video. i was surprised by that and because of that i was debating if i should get the exhaust.
Yup, it’s pretty reasonable!
God damn cant even imagine what it sounds like actually standing right next to it. Definitely best C8 I've heard
You sold me on upgrading my 22 C8 exhaust. Would you share all your specs? Best sounding c8 out there.
Please check the video description
do I need to order c8 replacement gaskets from 2m if I already ordered some from the Amazon? I’m doing cats and headers and also does the package come with mini cats?
You will have to check the description on their website but I would run the Amazon gaskets I linked in the video description as the ones 2M sells are not great.
@@GhostSpeedShop I bought from Amazon already, and they are cheap compared to the 2m ones
@@GhostSpeedShop the website said for replacement sports cats?
Yeah, but the Amazon ones won’t leak, the 2M ones will.
Dude I’m sold, this sounds sick. I’m seeing a header kit with cats and blankets, and a cat back kit with npp simulators. All in for $2354. Is that sounding right?
Yup, they are cheap!
would it be probably if the light is on?
What?
@@GhostSpeedShop my mistake bro, I meant would it still be okay to drive even the CEL is on?
Yes however the CEL should not be on after this install.
I got just the 2M exhaust, sounds amazing, and it was only $1200, BUT the guy who runs and owns 2M has a horrible attitude, terrible customer service as well. But the product is good.
Dang, that’s unfortunate. I’ve heard they are to the point and some people don’t get along with sarcasm well.
Is there a way to either do the cats or the headers individually to keep the valves. My last car was straightpiped so I need valves for this setup but still want to make it as loud as possible in track mode if that makes sense. Sounds amazing!
You can keep the factory catback with the valves but you might as well not do this, it will be too quiet
Fantastic!!! Just needs a cam!!! And let’s hear it with windows down and top off!!
👍💪🦅🇺🇸
Do I need new gasket or new afm for those?
Comes with gaskets but I recommend the ones linked in my video description. Also, you will need afm, you either need two or 4, it just depends on how many valves your factory exhaust has.
@@GhostSpeedShop I have the npp exhaust but I changed to awe now
@@GhostSpeedShopthe gasket on your link is out of stock does the 2m website works?
Im planning on going for the whole setup you have. Are there any issues so far?
No issues!
any issues with engine light?
Nope! Get the afm delete modules and o2 sensor spacers
@@GhostSpeedShop Oh that is new to me...thanks. I went to 2M website. What your talking about is "C8 AFM And NPP Simulators" Since I have a Performance exhaust, I need to it say to trick the CEL.
ordered full exhaust from 2m fabrication, catback is on and i love the sound, headers and cats getting installed next week. But are your headers ceramic coated? if so did they come like that, mine are shiny so i doubt they are coated
Mine came coated, not sure if they changed things up
It sounds like a Dodge Challenger. Sounds really cool but I prefer my Z06 which sounds like a F1 Indy car.
That flat plane crank is a work of art. I’m on the waiting list for one, but I’m concerned about the long term reliability and the engine issues that have recently surfaced.
Sounds so good bro. Do you think it will still sound good if I just installed the sports cats with the current factory performance exhaust that I have ?
I doubt it, the factory performance exhaust leaves a lot to be desired.
Bro where did you get the rear valance?? Looks fire!!
It’s called maxton designs bodykit for the c8. Paragon and many other websites typically sell it!
My vehicle has the NPP from factory what happens if I were to order a cat back without that option would I have a check engine light ?
You will need to order npp modules. I’m running them without any issues.
After installing the headers, cats and exhaust, do you notice more gas fume smell? like the classic carb cars? Im thinking of getting this combo of the headers, cats and exhaust, also how did you get the valves to work, the 2m website says it needs simulators to delete the exhaust valve function, thank you.
Not really, but if you want it to smell 100 percent normal, it’s best to stay stock.
Ordering now thanks!!!!
Sounds awesome. I have a 2020 HTC. Are there any droning issues? Does their catback exhaust have valves for the different modes? I looked at the photos of their system, but it doesn't look like there are valves. Their prices blow everyone else out of the water. Did you install the headers, cats and exhaust yourself? If so how hard was that? Any heat issues with the exhaust system? I saw the plug wire recommendation, other than that any issues? Are you affiliated with 2M Fab? The cold start scares me a bit as I live in a condo and not sure my neighbors are going to be thrilled with that...oh well. Maybe I can stick some pool noodles in the end to muffle it during cold start.
Thanks Scott
Hey Scott!
I’m not affiliated with 2M fabrication at all however the price made me a customer.
There isn’t any drone nor are there valves, however for whatever reason the exhaust still changes volume when you change the drive modes.
I did install them myself, and I plan to remove and reinstall everything in an upcoming video for everyone, I wouldn’t say it was difficulty but I’m a seasoned mechanic.
I would recommend just the catback version of you are concerned about your neighbors, it still sounds great with that setup!
It definitely sounds good. I’m going to give it a shot.
Do you know how to make this system work on the new E-ray? Paragon performance said,
“No headers will work for an E-ray at this time as e-rays have EGT where no other USA spec C8’s have that. “
I do not, I unfortunately I haven’t gotten my hands on one yet
@@GhostSpeedShop come to ga and you’re welcome to work on mine! Lol
Damn that shit sounds INSANE 🔥
Does the exhaust crackle pop when down shifting or in general?
On downshift when warm and sometimes on de-acceleration
Did it voided your warranty?
🤷♂️
@@GhostSpeedShop lol
@@yujiechen239 I mean probably but you only live once! Plus the dealership has to prove it caused an issue.
@@GhostSpeedShop sounds good man, I appreciate your answer
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I almost put it in the title but thought it was baity
Best sounding C8 exhaust I've heard
I agree!
Does the long tube headers and cats package comes with 02 spacers? It was stated that o2 spacers and install hardware included. So I guess it’s included?
It used to, you reuse your stock hardware. I’ve heard people say they’ve had to order the o2 sensor spacers still.
@@GhostSpeedShop so did you order the o2 spacers by it self? Because I just ordered the headers and cats and it says this under the description “2020+ C8 Corvette Headers 1-7/8"
- 1-7/8" primary tubes
- Made from T304 stainless steel
- TIG welded and back-purged with 3/8" thick flanges
- Merge Spike Collector
- o2 Spacers and install hardware included
- Mid Pipes INCLUDED (Some people call these cat bypass pipes or sport cats), choose catless or catted with 200cel metallic cats.
- Lifetime warranty”
So I didn’t order them separately however I’ve seen people say theirs did not come with them. I’d order them just in case.
Any remaping or programing required for this mod?
No, just make sure you purchase the afm delete modules.
Sounds insane, I’m torn between 2M and MBRP the straight pipe is winning me over- which sounds better?
The both sound good! I’ve seen fittament issues with the MBRP though.
@@GhostSpeedShop Is there a more muscle or exotic note with the 2M?
With headers muscle, without exotic
I’m been coming back to this code a lot I thinking of running the same set up with my c8. Have you had any issues with it any cei? I’m surprised it doesn’t drone I heard the 2M exhaust tends to drone in v4 mode
They all sound a little weird in v4 mode. Just keep it in track mode and you never hear it.
Make sure you get the o2 sensor spacers
@@GhostSpeedShop ok thank you so much so you haven’t had many issues with cei?
@@TheBest-lw2de none of
No valves in this exhaust correct?
Correct.
I have the same setup with AWE Track exhaust. Love it. You should hear it on the track
Take a video!
You got the new afm? And gasket
@@yujiechen239 valve simulators from AWE.
@@GameChangersCorvetteClub I already have simulator so I need new ones everytime?
@@yujiechen239 you should be ok with those. The gaskets may need upgrading though
love the sund
Is there any drone to this set up?
Not with this setup no
Did you get any CEL? And did you opt for the heat blankets?
No CEL with the o2 sensor spacers and yes I ran the heat blankets, you can see them in the video.
Thank you. I have Awe Track Exhaust currently. How much louder can I get with headers and sport cats?
Wayyyy louder
Sounds excellent!
Sounds so good! I would love to have this but cruising on the highway would probably get a little annoying. It would be sweet to be able to have it this load most time but on the highway go quite. Good work man!!
If you put it in touring mode, it’s still somehow pretty quiet.
Hello I noticed on the CBE there are one hangers on each side but when you look at other CBE similar they have 2 hangers how is it held on with one on each side. Do you have pics of how they are installed?
The front hangers are no longer used, only the rear two. This is common on a lot of the aftermarket exhausts for the c8. I don’t have any photos of this setup from underneath but it seems nice and secure with the two hangers.
Thank you I plan on ordering...do you miss the NPP option?
Not really, for some reason the volume of the exhaust still changes based on which drive mode you are in. The npp delete modules should just be tricking the car into thinking the npp valves are in place but I’m not sure how the volume still changes.
Okay, I ordered it I already have the cats which I love I just needed a little bit more. Hopefully, this is the solution I am looking for. You have been a great help. Oh I forgot to ask are concerned about the headers do you know if it will void the warranty?
I mean, GM would have to prove an issue was caused by any part you change. It turns into a huge legal battle. Most people just swap back on their stock parts if anything goes south.
Where did you buy your diffuser at?
Maxton designs
Any check engine lights? Any issues so far? Tune needed?
No tune needed. No check engine lights if you use the o2 sensor spacers that I mention in the video.
Where is o2 sensor spacers?
@@GhostSpeedShopwhere you get the o2 sensor?
@@GhostSpeedShop I have awe exhaust and I have afm valves thing. I just need o2 sensor?
For the high flow cat install yes. 2M fabrication sells them on their website. You can order the cats and o2 sensor spacers at the same time.
Just got my exhaust and the headers done but the engine light are on. I think I need something else. Any suggestion?
Did you order the o2 sensor spacers? Did you also get the afm delete modules?
No, I did not
Order them you need them
@@GhostSpeedShop on it! Thank your!
I installed headers and exhaust both from 2m fabrication and also went catless. I got check engine and ESC codes any suggestions??
Install the 02 sensor spacers and modules they sell…..
I LOL'd on the cold start
Yeah it’s loud af
I wish they would have put a flat plane crank in the C8. The exotic sound of a flat plane crank would match the mid engine look better.
Also wish they would have put a 10 speed in it instead of the 8 speed.
The z06 c8 model has a flat plane crank. I agree with the 10 speed though.
@@GhostSpeedShop now I have to find a video of the z06. I have to hear it.
@@GhostSpeedShop I just listened to a Z06. It doesn't sound nearly as good as a GT350 or Ferrari.
@@walk4348 I personally think you just like how high pitch the mustang whines. It’s definitely louder for sure.
They did it's called a Z06
Sounds sik🔥🔥, I leave for work at six in the morning and with that cold start I’m definitely getting a call from HOA
Yeah, I drive my truck most days for this reason 😂
My concern also.
I’m very thankful for my neighbor’s very loud exhaust on his Mustang GT. It wakes me up right on time.
🔥 🔥👍🏾👍🏾
What did this setup run you price wise?
2200ish.
@@GhostSpeedShop for all of this? 2M fabrication catback exhaust, 2M fabrication headers and 2M fabrication high flow 200 cell cats with 02 sensor spacers and Catalytic converter blankets? that has to be over $10K???
Nope, their prices are cheap because they sell direct to their customers. They’re all made here in the US too.
Sounds like my corvette c8
Wish I had met you when I was in Oahu. I have a C8 with Kooks and hi flow Cats. Would like to have compared the sound.
Damn, I’m in Colorado now though!
Sounds great. I have a C8 2023 HTC with performance exhaust. Yesterday finished installing a 2M Fabrication Touring Catback exhaust and sports headers. Install went great. No CELS. And it is insanely loud. The workmanship is very impressive.
In this video you showed switching from tour to track. Mine no longer changes exhaust modes. It’s full out loud. The only exhaust option I saw in 2M was the Catback touring system. Is there a modification I can get to make it valved like the OEM performance exhaust? Is that something they custom build?
So I don’t have any actuators installed but there’s a noticeable difference in exhaust volume inside the car in different modes. Mines a 2023 if that matters
Did this void your warranty?
The manufacturer would have to prove that this caused an issue. I doubt it would hold up in court but typically exhaust do not void your warranty.
You have links to the header and setup? What’s was the cost?
looking forward to this one
It will be out on the 6th!
Sounds like something I’d dream about😅
Do you have a full list of what header, exhaust etc was used? I'd love to get these exhaust for mine!
In the description and I explain it in the video
So this is all they have listed for C8...is this what's on the C8 in your video?
Catback exhaust System - Touring
C8 Headers 1 7/8 with midpipes catted
C8 Sport Cat
Yes
@GhostSpeedShop well got it ordered and have it scheduled to get installed on the 21st. Thanks again for the video and help. Been looking for an awesome-sounding exhaust. This one, to me, sounds better than any of the other ones on the market!!! And why cheaper!
Sounds close to z06 it would be bad ass supercharged
Thanks!
Absolutely! Glad you like the video!
Did the upgrade void any drive train warranty?
Probably not if you took it to court, but I’m sure a dealer would claim it does.
❤❤❤❤❤
Thank you!
How much did this cost roughly?
I’m not sure what 2M fabrications current pricing is but all of the parts I purchased should be available to price on their website.
I see a few noise tickets in your future, but it sounds great !
Fingers crossed!
MAAAAAAN I LOVE the sound of this Car with the 2M Fabrication setup BUT when I see the Google Reviews on 2M Fabrication to say I am a bit nervous is an UNDERSTATEMENT. Reading there FAQ just solidifies my gut feel for how things are going to go If I do business with them.Sounds like Chinese Crap to me based on the look, quality and delivery times out over 2-4 months. BUT I love that sound! Anyone here know of a similar and yes MORE EXPENSE PRODUCT to rival this one???
They make everything in house here in the USA…. Their FAQ page was hysterical to me but it might be much for some people. It’s a cheap, but it’s quality exhaust without the crazy markup everyone else carries. They also don’t sell to distributors and sell directly to customers which typically saves the consumer 30-40%.
About the wait…. I believe they make the C8 stuff pretty quick. I ordered and had all my parts within 2 weeks so that might be a general statement for some of their less popular products.
As for similar but more expensive, I’d go with corsa. I can’t speak for the quality, but they do sound similar, potentially slightly quieter. Hopefully this helps!
@@GhostSpeedShop Thanks, very helpful...Did the exhaust throw and error s or codes once it was installed?
@@GhostSpeedShop Also, does 2M make a blanket for their headers or would a FabSpeed header cover work possibly?
None of you get the modules they offer.
Their headers come with some sort of coating on them. It’s not the best, it sorta takes a little bit to bake when you drive the first couple of times. I know they offer the cat blankets but I don’t think they sell headers blankets. You could try the other ones you mentioned.
I love the sound❤❤❤! What’s your exhaust? Thanks
It’s in the title and the description
I check but didn’t show up the CBE exhaust? Do you have the link? It’s NPP or Non? Thanks and very appreciate that!👍👍👍
@@quyenyang3968 cbe stands for cat back exhaust. It’s made by 2M fabrication. It’s non npp, but they sell modules that plug in to prevent a check engine light.
Just received my exhaust I can’t wait lol
You’re gonna love it
@@GhostSpeedShop I appreciate you for posting these great content, you inspire me to get it, thank you brother!
Of course! Enjoy it!
Sounds amazing
Definitely wayyyyyy too much for the neighbors to hear on a daily basis for keeping peace sake
Even the stock cold start is kinda harsh for the neighbors.
Can you please comment the links to all the exhaust components on this build?
Read the description and search for them based on the info provided. This is not a sponsored video, therefore I will not be linking the products.
Hey man is this exhaust stock? Great video!
No
Just loud . Looks slower than stock
I mean it’s not… and 2M posts their Dyno results. Thanks for your baseless comment though.
Do people not understand that there is such thing as too loud ??!! Making it louder and louder isn’t always better , it sounds a little gravely to me
I mean, the video clearly shows that you can drive it around quietly and loudly when you want to. Unless you are driving around WOT in track mode all the time, it’s a great sounding setup.
This is by far not the loudest setup for the C8, but is generally in the 75% as far as sound goes.
@@GhostSpeedShop I’m trying to get after market cat back for mine but every video I watch just shows loud af setups and have titles like “ loudest c8 ever “ or something like that 😂 , I just want something a little louder than stock but not deafening ! Any recommendations??
Do the 2M fabrication catback only or the bola catback. Both great. As soon as you do cats, that’s when it gets loud.
@@GhostSpeedShop ok thanks
what are those gold things in the engine bay? Where did you get that from?
Google DEI wrap
Cams or cam brah? 😐
Aye good point, the lt2 only has one. I’ve always just referred to them plural.
@@GhostSpeedShop 🤔
Sounds like the annoying kids car down the street. Just loud to attract attention. Doesn't sound elegant and gurgled but just loud. To each his own but to me a Vette should sound like a Vette and not like all the other cars with these noise-makers bolted on. Please enjoy it though :)
It gurgles a lot, perhaps the camera just doesn’t do it justice.
The cold start on a regular c8 is loud dude. This doesn't sound nearly as knarly as some cammed out C6s or C7s on the road.