No jungle item, not dodging skills. It seems to be about as easy as dragon but it deals a bit more damage overall. 2 or 3 people could take it after a succesful gank.
Nah, otherwise it would be a heck of a problem so early in game and junglers struggle enough already to fully clear. Edit: thinking it more, a buff to it that makes it stronger the less people are attacking it would be great, and overall should be as strong as its final actual buff is, as it is likely to be changed.
It's, jungle champs with no jungle item soloing Atakhan? That's way too easy, it should take at least 3 champs to do it, and make Baron at least 4 or 5
@@DoopIiss hmm, well it really depends on how strong the buff would finally be, if it is strong yeah, needs more strenght, but if it is a weak buff like comparable to 2 grubs, then its good enough. And for years champs like yi or ww have been able to solo baron, only posible way i see this one buffed without being broken for weak junglers is it getting a stat debuff the more people are fighting it.
@morris_c0de463 Right?!? I soloed drake as jng teemo lvl4 with recurve bow and mote. So long as the enemy doesnt have vision of you or its not a ww as the enemy jungler tho cause I had like 6% health after.
Ruinous is the hard one, think of it like. Ruinous=well fed and corporeal ready to ruin your day. Voracious=hungry red fellla who will suck your soul out of your body.
Aren't its attacks / effects different depending which side of the map it spawns on? You only seem to test 1 version per champion here! (I assume results would be very similar but still worth considering)
I mean, seems as hard as a dragon? Maybe its faster but I don't see that as a problem. Maybe it would be more interesting if it was HARD to take, like really hard. Like people have to actually time abilities and dodge hard to take.
I know this ain't a bug report forum but I might as well ask here since I can't find anything about this online. When I try to launch a game on PBE it takes about a minute to even start up and then the window doesn't open and when I hover over the icon it just has the close button pretty much. I have no idea what to do for this and I was really hoping to be able to play pbe
@@MrPaperVader He lack the dps to take this one down fast enough. His healing isn't enough to survive due to the cd requirement. Fidd need to be extremely fed if he really want to solo this.
@@MrPaperVader No, just a simple comparision. WW struggle to kill this with higher dps and healing than fidd. So it would be way harder for fid to solo.
@@typervader well you basically cant because otherwise wtf is the enemy doing not having vision on atahkan and it takes so long to solo there's no excuse to let someone solo it this early
@@Andrea-dw1ps you can still solo baron if you are yorick or heimerdinger and are fed since baron only applies a debuff to the champ and not to the minions which is pretty dumb.
i assume jungle items would make taking it even easier for a lot more champions
0 belveth stacks so she would probably shred it even better :P
And no jungle item :P
@@justjabbaa3854 just like any other champ that has been used in this video :p
Wym that ww is full build
No jungle item, not dodging skills. It seems to be about as easy as dragon but it deals a bit more damage overall. 2 or 3 people could take it after a succesful gank.
Do you think Atakhan is too easy to take?
It's really exposed so I think it is fair that it only gets you low enough that an enemy can easily stop you
Nah, otherwise it would be a heck of a problem so early in game and junglers struggle enough already to fully clear.
Edit: thinking it more, a buff to it that makes it stronger the less people are attacking it would be great, and overall should be as strong as its final actual buff is, as it is likely to be changed.
It's, jungle champs with no jungle item soloing Atakhan?
That's way too easy, it should take at least 3 champs to do it, and make Baron at least 4 or 5
@@aksbs3700 its an objective like baron, that only spawns once, it should not be solo 'able without jg item/smite.
@@DoopIiss hmm, well it really depends on how strong the buff would finally be, if it is strong yeah, needs more strenght, but if it is a weak buff like comparable to 2 grubs, then its good enough. And for years champs like yi or ww have been able to solo baron, only posible way i see this one buffed without being broken for weak junglers is it getting a stat debuff the more people are fighting it.
This is all also without jg item
so, same champions that are able to solo drake early? high attack speed and/or high sustain
pretty much every jungler can solo drake at 5 right now
@morris_c0de463 Right?!? I soloed drake as jng teemo lvl4 with recurve bow and mote. So long as the enemy doesnt have vision of you or its not a ww as the enemy jungler tho cause I had like 6% health after.
there's no way anyone will solo kill Atakhan in the plain sight of the enemy laners
If both laners Die this is possible a dumb dive happens a Lot of the time
This is voracious, right? What about the ruinous one that's supposed to spawn in the more high action games?
Ruinous one is supposed to be easier to take, i think
Ruinous is the hard one, think of it like.
Ruinous=well fed and corporeal ready to ruin your day.
Voracious=hungry red fellla who will suck your soul out of your body.
@GlitchyMoon Voracious means hungry, so I'm not worried about differentiating them. Meant, how hard is it to solo the ruinous version of Atakhan?
@@NephilPereyra they said that voracious is weaker
I think the main difficulty comes from them essentially being in vision range of lanes, meaning you can't just stealth kill it
Aren't its attacks / effects different depending which side of the map it spawns on? You only seem to test 1 version per champion here! (I assume results would be very similar but still worth considering)
The attacks and effects are based on how bloody the game is. And afaik that version is supposed to be the hard one.
Dont let aatrox do that. He can't even solo maiden or super cannon minions
I mean, seems as hard as a dragon? Maybe its faster but I don't see that as a problem. Maybe it would be more interesting if it was HARD to take, like really hard. Like people have to actually time abilities and dodge hard to take.
I can't test it but in theory in active games the ruinous version appears and that version should be harder version, how hard no idea
I thought Migos - Walk It Talk It was going to play at the beginning 😂
The i think they should add some mechanic to the monster based on how many enemys fight it
Does it have cc? asking for fiddlesticks
Atakhan is basically a Nocturne ASU but crimson instead of violet.
Rubber band mechanics are getting stronger every year
Ww below 30%: this is where the fun begins
I wonder what those stacks do, and if it's necessary to dodge them.
whats the summoner spell on f?
Teleport
Belveth mentioned like given
What about udyr?
Ww doing Ww things
I know this ain't a bug report forum but I might as well ask here since I can't find anything about this online. When I try to launch a game on PBE it takes about a minute to even start up and then the window doesn't open and when I hover over the icon it just has the close button pretty much. I have no idea what to do for this and I was really hoping to be able to play pbe
why are all of them regenerating so fast??
Warwick with 1% hp is still considered full hp
now try karthus
Akshan with e one shot 😂😂😂
Wait, there's no debuff like baron?
try with nunu liandry + sunfire
But this is without jng pet so factor that in please?
What about just yorick ghouls ?
I miss Skarner
it shed armor and MR too?.....WW goes to 4 MR at the end
You didn't show the harder version from the bloodier games.
What about Nunu ?
Is Fiddle´s sucki sucki enough to solo?
Most likely not.
@@dieptrieu6564 most likely yes i´d say
@@MrPaperVader He lack the dps to take this one down fast enough. His healing isn't enough to survive due to the cd requirement. Fidd need to be extremely fed if he really want to solo this.
@@dieptrieu6564 so you main fiddle and you tested it?
@@MrPaperVader No, just a simple comparision. WW struggle to kill this with higher dps and healing than fidd. So it would be way harder for fid to solo.
is ATAKHAN raleted to yone?
Why no smite :(
bro thats the easy red one
bro ww is slow even on normal camps
with smite
thats is happen what i think with ww its ez do do it
fiddlestick ?
How tanky is that guy?
you should build navori on warwick as a the first item
Also Beth shouldn't get her ult form from it, Atakhan isn't a void creature.
Neither are dragons nor.. champions?
@@Jiroscopio_ and the thing she gets is the normal version, not enhanced R that spawns stuff so it seems fine yeah
i thought the entire point of this was to be hard....
dude soloing it takes a lot of time and almost everyone of the mends it by being low hp so its not thta easy
@@Andrea-dw1ps you shouldnt even be able to solo it in the first place
@@typervader you could with baron in the past so i don't see why since he is not baron level and only the shredders can do that not everyone
@@typervader well you basically cant because otherwise wtf is the enemy doing not having vision on atahkan and it takes so long to solo there's no excuse to let someone solo it this early
@@Andrea-dw1ps you can still solo baron if you are yorick or heimerdinger and are fed since baron only applies a debuff to the champ and not to the minions which is pretty dumb.