Remember guys, it's early days so lots will change over the coming days and weeks! This is just our first impressions so far, and we thought it'd be fun to take a closer look at those Noxus champions too! Good luck and have fun! 💜
I agree, but I don't know if that's going to be a permanent thing. I'm a jungle player AND I make it a thing to know what the meta is and how to path etc. The problem is the majority of the player base doesn't care or waits for a channel like this to tell them what to do. Currently if you have a jungler that understands the feats you will win 70% of the time (confirmed by upgraded boot statistics). As time goes on more players will learn the mechanics and it will feel less flippant. It's nice to feel agency as a jungler again though, last season I role swapped to mid as the lane was hard to punish, while having the ability to roam without drawbacks and play for any objective forcing my jungler to make the right choice. Now I'm glad I can play my role again.
While a dogbrain d Jung can ruin your games, remember their job is to capitalize on laners leads and claim objectives when proper map control is secured by their team! Its not all Jung diff but a braindead Jung can ruin ur game
I dont get it, first blood and first tower are already rewarding fine as they are, why reward them even more ? And the new boots are absolutely broken, which ever team gets them are basically a guaranteed win
Elise in support is another degenerate pattern. Just buff Human and Spider Q monster damage cap by a bit so she can clear better.. and give her like 15 damage on W all ranks and on Q Human and Spider like 10 damage and she will be fine. She is an early game champion.. and honestly most of those S tier picks outburst outdps and outsustain her.. Even if her playstyle is skewed towards early.. she does not have the numbers to compete early so that's why Elise support is better than Elise JG and will still probably be until Elise gets buffed or the Jungle gets nerfed. So a small monster camp bump and 35 damage to her combo ( even if it sounds small) will help her out a lot. Probably up to A tier or high A.
@ yeah if you’re a perma casual maybe, but for those of us who actually have hands and want to climb it’s bad. - Feats of war which encourages lvl 1 cheese and rewards an OP item that is disgustingly easy to win with - 5 man GA on new OBJ which only rewards 100 gold for a kill and you can just dive anyone for free gold - Lower minion HP which encourages bad wave management - OP new champ with no counterplay - Disgusting new map colours which hinders visibility Yeah fun for sure
It starts to look a lot more like hots, objectives start to give not some flat stats but actual things that punishes losers. Also a trend starts that champions are way more flexible for multiple lanes and roles , just like in hots where it doesnt matter at all . Hots isnt dead just because it failed to get money and it still gets actual balance patch notes that actually fix things. @woodsy.2977
Top - pick a skirmisher or assassin Jungle - pick a skirmisher or assassin Mid - pick a skirmisher or assassin Adc - pick a skirmisher or assassin Support - pick a skirmisher or assassin
Why can't riot just BUFF assassins. All my favorite champions are dogwater right now. I am not playing at all right now. Buff assassins (Evelynn, Zed, Akali, Talon, Katarina, Fizz, Naafiri)! Bring back oneshot meta please!
Same, Katarina doesn’t exist because of how easy it is to counter her, Zed scales well but it doesn’t really matter with this much tankiness in the game, Talon suffers from his own speciality because roaming is more punishing than before and not as rewarding and worst of all Pyke, he needs better ad and lethality scaling to his ult or bringing back the infinite scaling to his ult, because you rely too much on your team to get an execute. In conclusion we can’t solo carry games anymore because now the game in general it’s team diff, it doesn’t change if junglers have more responsibility for winning. The only way i can think of assassins existing is becoming the melee equivalent of a hyper carry (just like kassadin) unless they reduce the tankiness
@assasin0848 I mostly play Kata, Zed, Evelynn, Kha'zix and Leblanc. It really doesn't mater if you get ahead. You do not get to carry the game by yourself and that is what gets on my nerves the most. I put sooooo much hard work, only to be team diff in the end. LET ME CARRY alone pleaseeee!
Remember guys, it's early days so lots will change over the coming days and weeks! This is just our first impressions so far, and we thought it'd be fun to take a closer look at those Noxus champions too!
Good luck and have fun! 💜
I like how different the tier list are between. Moba and skill capped lol. Hopefully people don't pick champs based off these.
Only consistency is both tier list considers Warwick as a broken jungle pick
Both have kog and mf in the top tier as well
jungle diff is too much this season
I agree, but I don't know if that's going to be a permanent thing. I'm a jungle player AND I make it a thing to know what the meta is and how to path etc. The problem is the majority of the player base doesn't care or waits for a channel like this to tell them what to do. Currently if you have a jungler that understands the feats you will win 70% of the time (confirmed by upgraded boot statistics). As time goes on more players will learn the mechanics and it will feel less flippant. It's nice to feel agency as a jungler again though, last season I role swapped to mid as the lane was hard to punish, while having the ability to roam without drawbacks and play for any objective forcing my jungler to make the right choice. Now I'm glad I can play my role again.
While a dogbrain d Jung can ruin your games, remember their job is to capitalize on laners leads and claim objectives when proper map control is secured by their team! Its not all Jung diff but a braindead Jung can ruin ur game
It’s Nunu timing ofc
Atakan buff is exteremly OP they just do suicide attack on us and lose nothing
that's actually braindead and OP as hell
@blaster5800 Yeah
Axiom Arcanist rune on Singed is beyond perfect.
Also very, very very very good on Warwick
What does that rune do?
>tank meta
>gwen b tier
>riven s tier
>no tanks in s tier
holy engagement bait
I have just played against Heim in the top. That little rat it's actually op
Game is drastically better when we have moments like this.
I like the changes but what is pissing me off the most lately is people who still mindlessly splitpush and ignore the new objectives.
Personally Diana ranks bit higher in mid then irliea because of her consistency she doesn’t need to snowball as much as irliea
90% of players don’t understand teamwork. So this is why it’s hard to climb out of jg until a certain rank…
Background music is from sessions diana its O.R.B by A.L.I.S.O.N
I dont get it, first blood and first tower are already rewarding fine as they are, why reward them even more ? And the new boots are absolutely broken, which ever team gets them are basically a guaranteed win
Laners feeding first blood then tower haha this season sucks
Elise in support is another degenerate pattern.
Just buff Human and Spider Q monster damage cap by a bit so she can clear better..
and give her like 15 damage on W all ranks and on Q Human and Spider like 10 damage and she will be fine. She is an early game champion.. and honestly most of those S tier picks outburst outdps and outsustain her.. Even if her playstyle is skewed towards early.. she does not have the numbers to compete early so that's why Elise support is better than Elise JG and will still probably be until Elise gets buffed or the Jungle gets nerfed.
So a small monster camp bump and 35 damage to her combo ( even if it sounds small) will help her out a lot. Probably up to A tier or high A.
Won’t Cassiopeia be quite bad, now that boots are so important??
She gets another full item instead. The champs always been for one tricks
@ movement speed seems way too strong this season. The tier 3 boots are kind of overtuned at the moment
she was reworked i believe shes the only champion that gets a buff when you achieve the feats of strength since she cant get boots
@ oh, I’ll look into it.
@@daniagudelo89 her win rate has been very high for many season in a row and still currently is. She doesn’t seem to be struggling at all in the meta.
Is Sona good for climbing?
she has pretty high winrate, and her R and w exhaust is crucial vs enemy carries so I would say yes.
Play Seraphine. Pretty much the same, but way better.
@@blaster5800 sera is way too harder to land skillshots, more squishy and too long cds
but comeon putting varus in b tier is a joke xD Most top adc spam him now
Super fun but a bit too much going on in the early game.
I’m sure high Elo is less chaotic but Plat is a shit show lol
Riot making more battle passes, taking more F2P ways to get chests :(
Darius S tier for like 10 years in a row. Surely he gets gutted soon.
😂
Self report
@@Juan-GC I ban him every game and never play him.
How is Cass good? You can't even get the upgraded boots right? 😆
her passive now grants her stats if the allied team gets feats
Yorick feels a lot stronger
Easily the worst state league has ever been in. Bar none.
mad cuz bad and flame cuz lame classic lol, new interesting mechanics and actually fun
@ yeah if you’re a perma casual maybe, but for those of us who actually have hands and want to climb it’s bad.
- Feats of war which encourages lvl 1 cheese and rewards an OP item that is disgustingly easy to win with
- 5 man GA on new OBJ which only rewards 100 gold for a kill and you can just dive anyone for free gold
- Lower minion HP which encourages bad wave management
- OP new champ with no counterplay
- Disgusting new map colours which hinders visibility
Yeah fun for sure
It starts to look a lot more like hots, objectives start to give not some flat stats but actual things that punishes losers. Also a trend starts that champions are way more flexible for multiple lanes and roles , just like in hots where it doesnt matter at all . Hots isnt dead just because it failed to get money and it still gets actual balance patch notes that actually fix things. @woodsy.2977
Thresh is still S tier imo
Top - pick a skirmisher or assassin
Jungle - pick a skirmisher or assassin
Mid - pick a skirmisher or assassin
Adc - pick a skirmisher or assassin
Support - pick a skirmisher or assassin
Top: Pick Warwick
Jungle: Pick Warwick
I love mobalytics because they actually include seraphine in the botlane tierlists
Sett b tier ahahhahahahahahaha...Guys don't believe about these bullshit tier list
I like this patch. Forces you to play more as a team as opposed to just afk farming
I dislike it because no one is adapting lol
Good in theory but sucks in solo queue execution. Especially since they still won’t give us voice comms
idk about olaf he is trash and only pickable in perfect matches mundo i allthought understand why he is trash
Me with: 78% winrate Ahri! I hope I get not trolled or feeded next game... 20 losing streak with both
You missed Heimerdinger. He's S tier mid/adc
no lol
Why can't riot just BUFF assassins. All my favorite champions are dogwater right now. I am not playing at all right now. Buff assassins (Evelynn, Zed, Akali, Talon, Katarina, Fizz, Naafiri)! Bring back oneshot meta please!
no lol
@christianprevost8455 Yes lol. This is the most boring meta ever played. Assassins make the game fun for me.
Same, Katarina doesn’t exist because of how easy it is to counter her, Zed scales well but it doesn’t really matter with this much tankiness in the game, Talon suffers from his own speciality because roaming is more punishing than before and not as rewarding and worst of all Pyke, he needs better ad and lethality scaling to his ult or bringing back the infinite scaling to his ult, because you rely too much on your team to get an execute. In conclusion we can’t solo carry games anymore because now the game in general it’s team diff, it doesn’t change if junglers have more responsibility for winning. The only way i can think of assassins existing is becoming the melee equivalent of a hyper carry (just like kassadin) unless they reduce the tankiness
@assasin0848 I mostly play Kata, Zed, Evelynn, Kha'zix and Leblanc. It really doesn't mater if you get ahead. You do not get to carry the game by yourself and that is what gets on my nerves the most. I put sooooo much hard work, only to be team diff in the end. LET ME CARRY alone pleaseeee!
@assasin0848 And Evelynn is literal DOGPISS right now. I hate it!
This season is dogshit
hate this saison too much jungle diff impossible to come back if you loose