I mean this in the nicest way possible… but I can’t thank you enough for how much these videos help me sleep. It’s something interesting and soothing but not overstimulating
It bothers me, I drive long distances occasionally, it would be great to listen to long format videos, but the cadence put me to yawn within 20 minutes.
"As I was leaving a tavern last night, a gang of Royal Navy sailors ambushed me. They dragged me to their captain, who looked me over a bit before telling them to let me go. I wasn't impressed."
1:40:01 Oops I meant 1950 the year not the decade. I guess I failed at formatting looks like I forgot the apostrophe. Sorry I didn't mean to push the envelope
Midships on the main deck of a Bagley class American destroyer in WW2 was a general workshop, with a bench grinder, anvil, heavy vises, drill press, pipe bender, Reed-Prentiss 16x80 lathe with compound milling table and compound rotary table, and all sorts of tools and basic materials in lockers, cabinets, shelves, racks, etc. There were also three hammocks here by 1944 -- space aboard the vessel was at a premium by then! There were some tools in the engine spaces as well.
Regarding nose art, I suspect another reason for USN/USMC policy forbidding it had to do with operational security. The squadron markings on interwar aircraft (e.g. "4 - F - 3" for the third aircraft in Fighter Squadron 3) and ship-based paint schemes were done away with after Pearl Harbor so that the enemy wouldn't know which squadron, and possibly which aircraft carrier, an American aircraft belonged to. If an aircraft's nose art was associated with a given squadron, it might also be inferred where its associated carrier was.
I always like to remind people that, following the battleship match of the 14th-15th, the destroyer USS Meade was the undisputed master of Iron Bottom Sound. It came out of Tulagi harbor in the morning, conducted a 40 minute gunnery exercise against the grounded Japanese transports, and then pulled several hundred American survivors from the sunk destroyers (Preston and Walke) from the water.
Admiral Dennis : Well dude, dude, think about it: he's out in the middle of parliament with some dude he barely knows. You know, he looks around and what does he see? Nothin' but a pair of dueling pistols. "Ahh, there's nowhere for me to run. What am I gonna do, say 'no'?" Captain Mac : Okay. That... that seems really dark. Dennis : Nah, no it's not dark. You're misunderstanding me, bro. Mac : I'm-I think I am. Dennis Reynolds : Yeah, you are, because if the politician said "no" then the answer obviously is "no"... Mac : No, right. Dennis Reynolds : But the thing is he's not gonna say "no", he would never say "no" because of the implication. Mac : ...Now you've said that word "implication" a couple of times. Wha-what implication? Dennis Reynolds : The implication that things might go wrong for him if he refuses to fund my ships. Now, not that things are gonna go wrong for him but he's thinkin' that they will. Mac : But it sounds like he doesn't wanna have a navy with you... Dennis Reynolds : Why aren't you understanding this? He-he doesn't know if he wants to have a navy with me. That's not the issue... Mac : Are you gonna hurt parliamentarians? Dennis Reynolds : I'm not gonna hurt parliamentarians! Why would I ever hurt these parliamentarians?! I feel like you're not getting this at all! Mac : I'm not getting it.
Apparently the USN's mess areas were considered very nice, with collapsible furniture allowing the spaces to be used for other things between meals, etc. However, the RN after WWI thought that the USN's sleeping arrangements were inadequate compared to RN ships'.
Admiral Fyodor Ushakov has a pretty impressive record. In the course of 43 naval battles under his command he did not lose a single ship and never lost a battle. The only admiral that I can find who ended up being canonised as a saint.
For machine shops, if I recall correctly one of the things a tender for destroyers or submarines would have is a larger machine shop specifically to supplement the limited machining capabilities those small ships carried -- probably similar to, if not possible superior to the shops in a CA or BB. So if you were operating a flotilla out of a forward base that didn't have base machine shops (or to save having to haul components ashore to work on, you'd have some flotilla level support from the tender you were attached to)
1:22:40 In the USN Enlisted pay grades or "Rates" are for example Fireman Recruit /E1, Fireman Apprentice/E2, Fireman/E3, these at called non-rates. Petty Officers for example would be BT3/E4, BT2/E5, BT1/E6, BTC/E7, BTCS/E8, and BTCM/E9 where BT is for the "Rating" of Boiler Technician. The nor-rates depending on what category the "Rating" they were striking for feel could also be Seaman, Airman, Hospitalman, Dentalmanor Constructionman.( As per 21st Edition of the Bleujackets' Manual) The "E" and "O" pay grades did not come about until the approval of the "Career Compensation Act of 1949"; however, for comparison purposes, the 1st Grade, is the same as today's E-7; 7th Grade is the same as E-1. E8 and E9 were added in in 1958.
The Dutch pumped out a lot of water for centuries with windmills ... apparently the 129' long P&O drydock at the Albany Foreshore (in Australia) had a windmill pump to keep it dry (it leaked).
Not on topic, but the Dutch are very smart people. They used the same drainage channels that came from pumping water with windmills as inland "water roads". It falls together "naturally". By the 17th/18th century they might have had the best transport infrastructure in Europe.
The grill on a funnel top for the canvas cover can be seen in use in this WW2 instructional film 'Raising Steam: Naval Instructional Film A76' (1942) At around 2:10 you can see the little door in the funnel base and ladder inside the funnel being used to get up to the cover and remove it. You can also see the funnel stay wires being slackened to allow for expansion as the funnel heats up. It has a good explanation of the three drum water tube Admiralty boiler with some good animated drawings ad cross sections. ruclips.net/video/uwMRCU0olS0/видео.htmlsi=cvcBEQgZr3fwPpb9
0:33:28 Covadonga at the Battle of Punta Gruesa and various uses of fireships, like against the anchored Spanish Armada or the French Fleet at La Hogue...
1:18:48: I wouldn't think the funnels are too large to cover in a single sheet canvas, but when you do it would sag down and create a water pool. The curve of the frame would keep the canvas in a tent shape, which is what I thought the answer would be.
Regarding Imperial German Navy crew accommodation, I recall seeing it stated somewhere that it was the ready availability of on-shore accommodation that led German designers to sacrifice on-board crew comfort in favour of more subdivision and better protection than equivalent British ships. Is there any truth to this?
Ode to Drach's Drydock .... Ahh .. that jaunty, scratchy music - that gets right in my ear :( .... But of course - the content ... - I just can't wait to hear :) Yes - the coverage and insight - it's all top tier ... So - sit back. relax and enjoy a Beer ! And of course - for all those imbibing ... Time to get around to subscribing !
"getting things out of politicians" is practically a hard requirement skill to even become a flag officer in any branch of any military. The whole point of flag rank is to be the interface between civilian government and military leadership. Anyone who isn't able to get things out of politicians won't ever get confirmed in rank.
@1:24:00 "ratings" The British fascination with using a gerund for everything possible, even when there's a perfectly serviceable noun available, will never cease to confuse the hell out of me. Two particular favourites of mine are "the washing up" and "the washing up liquid". Both of these are far longer to say than the nouns they replace: "(dirty) dishes" and "detergent".
What would be the advantages and _disadvantages_ of a catamarian carrier (starting below the main or hangar deck) vs a single hulled carrier equivalent in terms of aircraft carried, speed and so forth? Would this have been another way the IJN could curcumvent the b'twixt war treaties?
My better half's sister served in the Royal Navy in the eighties as what was known as a "crusher", ie Naval police. Officially She was a Regulating Petty Officer Wren, Regulating being her branch, Petty Officer her rank and Wren indicating she was of the female persuasion.
re: 01:05:30 - Why was bomber nose art prohibited in the USN/USMC? One issue may be the size of crews on the aircraft and what constituites a unit. You mention that USN/USMC squadrons tended to emphasize unit badges - and these would have roughly corresponded to 12-30 aircrew, plus however many mechanics made up a unit - at most 50 men, perhaps on average a couple of dozen? Whereas the typical 8th air force bomber might have a crew of a dozen or so, and perhaps as many ground crew, all associated to "their aircraft". Thus the same sized "morale unit" exists. And while it's perhapos more rare to see aircraft art in other services, I think it is more common for, say, RAF Bomber Command aircraft than for fighters; even Mossies don't seem to carry as much aircraft art as the Lancs. And without digging into it too far, I suspect that the 8th Af nose art is really a feature of the B-17s and B-24s and perhaps less so on P-47s and P-51s on an individual aircraft basis.
The French Surcouf submarine carried two "not collapsible" motor-boats: a 33' speedboat ahead of the turret, and a 17' utility boat aft of the superstructure. These were carried in spaces in the deck casing.
wrt the question about carrier conversions if the Washington treaty occurred a few years later. I agree with Drac that the Japanese would have been looking at converting the Kiis. wrt to the USN, SecNav Daniels had proposed another building program to follow the 1916 program that included the Lexigntons. But Daniels was gone with the change of administration in 1921. A four year delay in the treaty would put the conference during the Coolidge administration. Coolidge was even less interested in defense spending than Harding had been. As Drac said, given the attitude in the US during the time, I doubt the USN would have had a big capital ship program in the 20s. It was apparently the US that proposed the battlecruiser conversion clause of the treaty. Without battlecruisers under construction, the US would not have proposed the clause. If the UK has a G3 follow-on under construction, it might propose the conversion clause, but why would the US agree to it? I am not sure the conversion clause would have existed at all. Without the special clause, conversions would be limited by the treaty's general carrier specification of 27,000 tons. Or, the conference could fail entirely, as the 1927 (Coolidge administration) conference failed. There may not have been a successful naval conference until First London, in 1930, motivated by the depression.
Another possible "Real World Example of USS Defiant" in my mind would be the Italian-built destroyer leader Tashkent of the Soviet Navy. I recall you recounted in its five-minute guide as a tough little ship, and a ship having almost as much power as a Dunkerque class battlecruiser stuffed into a hull with less than 1/9th of the battlecruiser's displacement. Like the Abdiel class you offered, it was another ship that generated ludicrous power and speed and found itself doing much different missions than the original design intent.
1:22:41 For those who don't know how it works in the USN... A RATE is a job. (Sonar Technician, Submarines was mine.) RATING is your rank. (Sonar Technician, Submarines 2nd Class was mine.) QUALIFICATION can refer to a number of other things, but often refers to WARFARE DEVICE. (QUALIFIED IN SUBMARINES was mine. Often called "Dolphins." Others are Surface Warfare, Pilot's Wings, the SEAL Trident and there are others. The shorthand for my rating was STS2(SS). This is, of course, not complicated or confusing at all.
All Petty Officers in the USN are RATED. You become RATED upon completion of "A" school, which is the school for your RATE. I was RATED as an Seaman. (STSSN) You can still join and go to sea as an Unrated sailor, but you can't become a Petty Officer while Unrated.
FYI: The Bluejacket's Manual defines Rate as your pay grade, and Rating as an "Enlisted Occupational Field" . In my case I left Boot Camp as a Fireman Apprentice, an undesignated E2 in the Engineering Field. At the end of a four year enlistment I left the navy as a BT2 where Second Class(E5) was my Rate, and Boiler Technician (BT) was my Rating.
From what I can tell, for most of the 1950s US carrier air wings were limited to rocket salvos, dive/skip bombing, and torpedo attacks for conventional anti-shipping missions. Early on they could theoretically deploy Corsairs with ASM-N-2 Bats and later on aircraft with ASM-N-7 Bullpups. Additionally, the nuclear warhead armed BOAR entered service in 1956 and could be launched from F2H Banshees or AD Skyraiders.
Until the F4H and A6A all carrier types could carry any strike aircraft in the inventory. It was just a matter of numbers. USS Oriskany, which was the last Essex class carrier to deploy, in 1975, carried, 36 A7 and 24 F8 plus rotary and support aircraft. So in the late 50s the strike aircraft would have been a combination of A4Ds and AD. The fighter complement would vary.
And in the background to all the daylight air action between the 1st and 2nd Guadalcanal. Jun'yo nearly starts another carrier battle when one of her Kates spots Enterprise and Task Force 16. But when the strike comes, Enterprise is hiding under a squall.
00:45:05 For context, one factoid I heard in an economic context was one large industrial steam engine did the work of 40 horses 00:47:40 Let us not fail to celebrate Adm. Lee as a quiet admiral who should be admired. Have we done a 'what if the IJN had prevailed at the Naval Battle of Guadalcanal" ? and finally 00:51:48 the speaker implies, the listener infers (this might be a 'British' mistaken usage). I am not trying to be a picayune pendant .. it just comes natural.
In "exceptions to the general rule" some USN patrol bomber squadrons seem much more tolerant towards nose art (and even seem to have an exceptionally talented pool of artists). In addition to Drach's reasoning, I reckon it has something to do with an ideal canvas in the slab sides of the PB4Y, the more individual nature of the mission in terms of number of aircraft on any given patrol.. but for the most part being far enough away from anyone with enough braid on their cap to tell you not to.
1:24:10 in the US Navy in order to obtain the rank of petty officer third class, the lowest noncommissioned officer E4, you have to have a rating. You have to have usually gone to what is known as “A“ school. You can have a rating below third class or B what is known as undesignated when you are an E3 and below, but in order to take the third class exam, you have to have a rating as each exam is specific to each rating and rank.
01:24:54 One of the biggest bangs in Hailstone (Truk) was a Japanese ammunition ship that let go when bombed and took out the attacking aircraft so long fuses perhaps not. But one allied ammunition ship (John Harvey) was destroyed in Bari during the Italian campaign while carrying Mustard gas shells, which caused some interesting situations for medical personnel dealing with veterans of the campaign Post War.
@@ianyoung1106 That is just about the level of r^tarded fuxksh!t I except from followers of this video stream. The incident at Bardi had fuxk all to do with the development of chemotherapy, that is more closely linked to experiments carried out on Roma at the Natzweiler-Struthof KZ in Alsace. That Nitroglycerine is used widely in medical treatment of Cardio-vascular disease was not as a result of the huge expenditure of ammunition in the world wars. So grow the fuxk up you mor*n.
Artists at the Disney Studios created art specially for use as nose and jacket art. Walt Disney designed the famous Flying Tiger used by the American Volunteer Group aircraft.
A lot off patrol aircraft, did not have assigned crews, since they flew very long missions, and therefore was more maintenance heavy, and had more airtime, with several crews, than USAF or ARMY in Europe with 3-4 hour missions!!
02:51:26 Pretty certain there were no oil resources in the German or Austro-Hungarian held areas of Poland, nor for that matter in Russian Poland. The main asset for Germany in Poland as a Naval asset was the Silesian Coal reserves, which comparatively high quality compared to the poor coal in Ruhr and Lignite muck elsewhere in Germany. The nearest oil reserves were in Romania, which the British destroyed when the Central powers overran Romania.
@@Drachinifel Sorry mate, but by 1914 the production in German held 'Poland' had all but ceased it started in the 1860s, and was effectively by bucket skimming tar fields around the Silesia coal fields, similar tar fields existed in Austria-Hungary in Bohemia, the place where the Curries got the Pitch Tar for their Radium refinement, but, most Austro-Hungarian oil around 2 Million tons crude a peak production in 1909 it tailed off rapidly after that, but was still supplying 90% of Austro-Hungarian Empire needs into WW1, these fields were Bobrka which is in Poland and is still operative as a fracking field between Krakow and Lemberg (Lviv now in Ukraine), and those south of Lviv around Tustanowice ( now Tuzhanivtsi) this production was however almost exclusively Oil Wax (ozokerite), effectively mined from material similar to coal tar, so dig a hole and the material seeps into the mine sump and is bucketed out (manual fracking). The rapidly declining production of the Tustanowice fields more or less collapsed in the aftermath of the collapse of Austria Hungary Nov 3rd 1918, but were re-established in the 1930s by the Soviets and operated in WW2 by Nazis. I have a particular interest in this production of oil in the area around Lviv because my paternal ancestry came from Lemberg, where the area became known as 'Galician California'.
@steve-qc8hd The first 'modern' oil discovery in NW Europe was made at the Wietze oil field near Hannover in Germany in 1859, leading to the identification of seventy more fields, mostly in Lower Cretaceous and Jurassic reservoirs at 200 to 300 metres deep, producing about 8,400 barrels per day at its peak - 3.066 million bbl per annum. Until 1920, Wietze was Germany’s most productive oil field; in 1909, Wietze was producing nearly 80% of Germany’s oil; production ended in 1963. In addition to the problem of small quantity, most German oil was quite waxy, which limited it to lubricants and paraffin. During WWI oil production was unable to expand due to a shortage of workers and necessary equipment. Austria-Hungary had 'Galician California,' as it was called at the beginning of the twentieth century, at the town of Boryslav (near Lviv) - Kingdom of Galicia and Lodomeria. In 1909, production peaked at close to 15 million barrels from the Galician fields, 5% of global production. This made Austria-Hungary for a brief period the world’s third largest producer of oil after the US and Baku, Azerbaijan (Russia), almost all of which came from Galicia. It would be superseded by Mexico and later Venezuela (which, btw, for most the 1930s was the world's largest oil exporter). It was in Galacia the world's first modern oil refinery, the modern kerosene lamp, the modern street lamp, and the modern oil well were invented by Ignacy Lukasiewicz, a Pole.
Re the Imperial German navy. It is worth remembering that if the rules of primogeniture now in place had been in place at the end of the 19th century Kaiser Wilhelm II would through his mother who was the oldest child of Queen Victoria have inherited the throne of the British empire making him William V as well as Wilhelm II king-emperor
Regarding nose art: aboard an aircraft carrier, an airplane with crude or offensive nose art is never more than about 400' from the bridge (when its not in the hangar), while a ground-based air force squadron could be dispersed along a couple thousand feet of runway. Out of sight, out of mind, perhaps?
Just to point out, there were limits to the commission purchase system. First there was a rank limit, the exact rank limit did change over time, but it was never higher than full Colonel. A commission above the highest rank could NOT be purchased. Period. So this idea that British officers could buy their way to General ranks is pure fallacy. Second an officer had to purchase through the ranks, and had to spend a minimum term at each rank before he was eligible to purchase the following rank. This meant that a rich 17 year old could NOT in fact simply purchase a Colonels commission, he had to work through Lieutenant, Captain, major and so on, and spend a minimum of I believe two years at each rank before he was eligible to purchase the next rank. Third it was on a strict time in rank system. If a Captains slot came up for example it would be offered first to the Lieutenant with the longest time in rank. If he refused it, it would be offered to the next lieutenant and so on down the chain. Lastly not all officers slots were actually available for purchase, this is especially true in the technical arms. In the Royal Engineers and Royal Artillery for example no officer slots were available for purchase. None. One thing to bear in mind during the purchase system is that these saleable ranks often constituted an officers retirement fund. Especially for officers who were not independently wealthy, which actually made up a percentage that would surprise people who know little about the history of the British Army, somewhere in the region of 30%. There were far more Sharpe's in the British Army than people at first assume. There were no pensions in those days days remember, so for those officers the proceeds of selling their commissions WAS their pension. Lastly a purchased commission could be stripped with no recompense if an officer was to screw up too badly. This was especially true of Cowardice. This is where the term 'cashiered' comes from in the modern military parlance. Back in the day being cashiered referred to an officer who was stripped of their commission without recompense, and it was the ultimate dishonour for an officer to be so cashiered.
As far as bore sizes go(circa 1hr 1min), it seems as if they had guns in 44 Russian, but made the leap to .38 Special and later .357magnum. Smaller caliber, but more powerful.
00:27:57 You could say Capt Coles was good a wresting things from Parliament & Monarchy over the wishes of the Admiralty, but then maybe the Admiralty should have forced a few more of Coles friends and advocates onto HMS Captain.
Royal Marines in the Napoleonic area: Hearing you talk about degrees of connectedness for naval personnel in the early 18-hundreds, I assume you are familiar with C.N. Parkinson’s (of Britannia Rules) ‚Biography‘ of Horatio Hornblower, viz. his ‚Life and Times’ - as opposed to the action-heavy adolescent-arrousing C.S. Forrester accounts in the novels. Would you - on occasion - share your impressions om this?
Given the growing importance of fire-control systems and radar on directing anti-aircraft fire, the Atlanta class cruiser has the obvious advantage of having as many 5" 38 guns as three destroyers, directed by a single system. I would defintely rather have a few of those protecting my fleet while also deterring enemy destroyers with sheer weight of accurate fire.
50:20 as someone who idolized Halsey as a kid, I completely agree with you. He was what we needed early in the war, but by late war, not so much. I also used to be a big fan of MacArthur and Eisenhower. I definitely am not now, lol. On the flip side, I used to hate Admiral King, but now he is one of my favorites. It's amazing what you find when you get away from all the propaganda documentaries. I freely admit I was one of the kids who was blinded by all the "America won the war" crap. It was a team effort. Without all of us, we would have lost.
@@warwatcher91he was trying too hard to be good allies instead of winning the war. That being said, I do think he did pretty well as president. As someone who has played in the sand, I'm all for ending a war quicker than making sure my allies get enough glory.
Yamato's torpedo defend system was also proved in combat to be quite impressive. It's probably reason why Yamato was so much larger than Number 13. And it's really hard to quantify torpedo defend system.
@@ThatZenoGuy more like 9 (the rest hit after she was already doomed). And yes, that's still a ton of torpedoes, but she could probably have taken a few more before rolling over with a better torpedo defense.
@@bkjeong4302 I naively thought the only thing mattered for TDS was volume. And Yamato seemed to be so much wider than No. 13 for no other reason at all. But your comment prompted me to actually find a diagram for size and surprisingly the volume for TDS in Yamato seems to be similar to other period ships. Now I really wonder why she was so fat!!
Drach i have to respectively disagree with you on your view on Noseart. The 8th UAAF wasn't the only ones who allowed Noseart. What about the B-29s of the XXI Airforce? Enola Gay or Flying Boxcar? Also the Luftwaffe did alow certain units to have Noseart. Also there was one squadron of F6Fs that did have the Shark Nose for a brief time.
Re: Impressment - It is not completely unreasonable that 75% of RN sailors experienced impressment at some point in their careers. Consider when a ship paid off during a war and all the sailors were retained/ reassigned to another vessel. That is a form of impressment and likely happened to a high percentage of sailors.
serving for the duration of the conflict became quite common in the modern era. serving for the duration of the campaign was common in the napoleanic era especially in the armies.
wrt the question about battleship guns being downsized at the turn of the century, as Drac said, the key development was smokeless powder. Black power burns very rapidly, so building a gun with a longer barrel is pointless, as the charge would be fully burned before the shell exited a barrel longer than 30 calibers, or so. The smokeless powders that were introduced around the turn of the century burned much slower, enabling longer barrels. As Drac said, I suspect the issue driving the downsizing was weight, because you really are not comparing the weight of a black or brown powder burning 13"/35 to a smokeless burning 12"/40. but the weight of a smokeless burning 13"/40 to a 12"/40. Gun weight plays a role in ship size, and cost. The BB4 Iowa was built as a smaller, cheaper, battleship, than the Indianas, just as Mississippi and Idaho were built as a smaller, cheaper, alternative to the Connecticuts, and downsizing from a 13"/35 to a 12"/35 played a role in downsizing the entire ship.
The Chieftain is Nick Moran. He has an Irish background, but is a US citizen. He was an armor branch us military officer, currently in the reserves. He is very much an ultra tank nerd/operator/historian. He has a you tube channel, just search for The Chieftain, if you have a lot of time for watching fascinating content about tanks. He knows what he is talking about.
Could you address the whole massive failure of battleship and battlecruiser design? It was an enormous mistake to create a gigantic floating ammo dump, then invite the enemy to shoot at that massive floating ammo dump, and about one fourth of battleships sunk were destroyed by an enormous explosion of their magazines. Then, on top of that design failure, which was not realized because there was only one real fleet battleship on battleship action (Jutland) so countries kept on making these floating ammo dumps for 20-30 more years. And on top of that, they invented the battlecruiser, a floating ammo dump that had even LESS armor. Sheez!
I'd argue it's only once you get into the 1930s that battleships become massive disasters, which had everything to do with the fact the battleships built from that point onwards ended up being outright obsolete upon launch because carriers extended battle ranges to the point they couldn't serve as capital ships.
The floating ammo dump had armor untouchable by the guns of most smaller vessels, guns and fire control systems which outmatched the same. Only very late into carrier air wing development did aircraft achieve a capability matching/surpassing those of surface combatants. How much of a design failure was HMS Warspite, with her 15 battle honors?
I don’t know about this. The British bull and maintained the world’s largest empire ever through “gunboat diplomacy”. They figured out pretty early on that they could dispense with enormous numbers of occupying troops by strategically employing the battleship to manipulate trade, enforce sea access/denial, and occasionally disgorging armed men into conflict ashore. It 100% worked for them. And even though 1-for-1 their older battleships weren’t ideal specimens in combat, they simply built enough to overwhelm their enemies.
All warships of the early to mid-20th century are floating ammo dumps. Destroyers don't even have armor, which makes them especially vulnerable. A single torpedo or bomb hit could sink a destroyer with all hands lost. Cruisers, of course, don't have enough armor to stop battleship grade fire, or even cruiser grade fire at close enough range. They are floating ammo dumps that don't have anywhere near as much armor as battlecruisers - and yet they are expected to do the same jobs. Go figure. Aircraft Carriers are not just floating ammo dumps, they also have lots of highly flammable gasoline, flammable lubricants, and perhaps even liquid oxygen to help the fires burn brighter. So either all warship design was badly flawed, or you're missing some fundamental concepts here and haven't figured that out yet. Now that I've given you a hint, which do you think it is? I'll give you another hint: due to the effectiveness of period anti-air defenses, a Vietnam war era US government study found that over 90% of carrier air missions could be accomplished by battleship gunnery at far lower cost in money and lives. Not bad for a floating ammo dump that is an example of the 'whole massive failure of battleship and battlecruiser design' - or maybe you just haven't thought these matters through yet. Would you care to take a moment and rephrase the question?
2:29:00 This is also why the Japanese gave up on trying to make the Yamatos go at 30+kt and settled for 27-28kt (still fast enough to be competitive but not as fast as other contemporary Axis battleships). The designs that would have allowed the Yamatos to go that fast while carrying three triple 18" turrets or four triple 16" turrets were so excessively large that Japan couldn't build them.
What I'm getting at is maybe you could possibly stick a couple more pictures in.🤔 Sometimes you give a 15 minute answer and although you do answer everything quite thoroughly it's really boring to stare at a Royal Marine for an hour.🤔
00:52:26, Value of Ferris scrap in 1945 was at best marginal, but pretty sure the vessels sunk by Deadlight were from British Reparations, after WW2 it was lack of facility to scrap war material that was the problem not so much putting equipment beyond use, so ammunition which is otherwise of high value (brass cases) was just a case of costing too much to recycle (unlike in WW1 and in Korean War), although it may have been a benefit in both Germany and Japan to employ civilians to reverse manufacture materials, rather than have them sitting around on welfare food stamps. In UK many 'small AFVs' were reverse manufactured even into the 1950s for example Universal carriers and post Suez Cromwell and Centaur Armoured recovery vehicles were scrapped by reverse manufacture. Comparatively, little contraband equipment got to unauthorised users - although the IDF managed to get a bunch of Beau-fighters in 1948, but I really doubt a Haganah navy would have had much need for an old submarine in the period 1945 to 1948.
02:23:15 Considering that there was a plane for supper Yamato with the 18 inch turrets swapped out for 2 x 20 inch guns so a six gun ship, would have certainly been better without the centreline 3 x 6 inch turrets.
1:24:10 in the US Navy in order to obtain the rank of petty officer third class, the lowest noncommissioned officer E4, you have to have a rating. You have to have usually gone to what is known as “A“ school. You can have a rating below third class or B what is known as undesignated when you are an E3 and below, but in order to take the third class exam, you have to have a rating as each exam is specific to each rating and rank.
I mean this in the nicest way possible… but I can’t thank you enough for how much these videos help me sleep. It’s something interesting and soothing but not overstimulating
It's taken me over a week to listen to this one! Having the chapters is invaluable in figuring out at what point I fell asleep.
It bothers me, I drive long distances occasionally, it would be great to listen to long format videos, but the cadence put me to yawn within 20 minutes.
If you speed the sound up slightly, the sleep spell does not take effect.
"As I was leaving a tavern last night, a gang of Royal Navy sailors ambushed me. They dragged me to their captain, who looked me over a bit before telling them to let me go. I wasn't impressed."
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Oh Dear! And well done!
You have kids, don't you.... Dad?
Why do British people pronounce it as LEFT TENANT as opposed to how it is written “LOO TENANT “?😊
Did/do the Japanese have/had Marines? Albeit with a Japanese name?
1:40:01 Oops I meant 1950 the year not the decade. I guess I failed at formatting looks like I forgot the apostrophe. Sorry I didn't mean to push the envelope
Midships on the main deck of a Bagley class American destroyer in WW2 was a general workshop, with a bench grinder, anvil, heavy vises, drill press, pipe bender, Reed-Prentiss 16x80 lathe with compound milling table and compound rotary table, and all sorts of tools and basic materials in lockers, cabinets, shelves, racks, etc. There were also three hammocks here by 1944 -- space aboard the vessel was at a premium by then! There were some tools in the engine spaces as well.
I'd also suggest, THE ROYAL MARINES, from Sea Soldiers to Special Force , by Major General Julian Thompson
“Why can’t your sailors run on a more communist level of food?” is one of the funniest sentences ever uttered.
Regarding nose art, I suspect another reason for USN/USMC policy forbidding it had to do with operational security. The squadron markings on interwar aircraft (e.g. "4 - F - 3" for the third aircraft in Fighter Squadron 3) and ship-based paint schemes were done away with after Pearl Harbor so that the enemy wouldn't know which squadron, and possibly which aircraft carrier, an American aircraft belonged to. If an aircraft's nose art was associated with a given squadron, it might also be inferred where its associated carrier was.
I always like to remind people that, following the battleship match of the 14th-15th, the destroyer USS Meade was the undisputed master of Iron Bottom Sound. It came out of Tulagi harbor in the morning, conducted a 40 minute gunnery exercise against the grounded Japanese transports, and then pulled several hundred American survivors from the sunk destroyers (Preston and Walke) from the water.
2:19:57 Breech opening occurs at ~5.25 secs after firing - on the USN firing cycle chart for Iowa 16" guns.
Last time I was this early; five minute guides lasted five minutes ;-)
😂😂😂😂😂
(more or less)
And there's even rumours that Drydock episodes lasted for roughly an hour and a half tops (allegedly)😂
I always assumed it works like the clock in American sports.....
And I always wanted more.
Thank you for the excellent response top my question on the Royal Marines.
If you are interested, I have a book that you may find very interesting as it charts the RM from inception to about 1982
great question.
Oh. A 2 parter. Looks like a Patreon Drydock for 325!!
Admiral Dennis : Well dude, dude, think about it: he's out in the middle of parliament with some dude he barely knows. You know, he looks around and what does he see? Nothin' but a pair of dueling pistols. "Ahh, there's nowhere for me to run. What am I gonna do, say 'no'?"
Captain Mac : Okay. That... that seems really dark.
Dennis : Nah, no it's not dark. You're misunderstanding me, bro.
Mac : I'm-I think I am.
Dennis Reynolds : Yeah, you are, because if the politician said "no" then the answer obviously is "no"...
Mac : No, right.
Dennis Reynolds : But the thing is he's not gonna say "no", he would never say "no" because of the implication.
Mac : ...Now you've said that word "implication" a couple of times. Wha-what implication?
Dennis Reynolds : The implication that things might go wrong for him if he refuses to fund my ships. Now, not that things are gonna go wrong for him but he's thinkin' that they will.
Mac : But it sounds like he doesn't wanna have a navy with you...
Dennis Reynolds : Why aren't you understanding this? He-he doesn't know if he wants to have a navy with me. That's not the issue...
Mac : Are you gonna hurt parliamentarians?
Dennis Reynolds : I'm not gonna hurt parliamentarians! Why would I ever hurt these parliamentarians?! I feel like you're not getting this at all!
Mac : I'm not getting it.
Apparently the USN's mess areas were considered very nice, with collapsible furniture allowing the spaces to be used for other things between meals, etc. However, the RN after WWI thought that the USN's sleeping arrangements were inadequate compared to RN ships'.
US ships are dry aren't they? They could be palaces and still not suitable...
Admiral Fyodor Ushakov has a pretty impressive record. In the course of 43 naval battles under his command he did not lose a single ship and never lost a battle. The only admiral that I can find who ended up being canonised as a saint.
For machine shops, if I recall correctly one of the things a tender for destroyers or submarines would have is a larger machine shop specifically to supplement the limited machining capabilities those small ships carried -- probably similar to, if not possible superior to the shops in a CA or BB. So if you were operating a flotilla out of a forward base that didn't have base machine shops (or to save having to haul components ashore to work on, you'd have some flotilla level support from the tender you were attached to)
I appreciate that addition to the answer to my question :)
1:22:40 In the USN Enlisted pay grades or "Rates" are for example Fireman Recruit /E1, Fireman Apprentice/E2, Fireman/E3, these at called non-rates. Petty Officers for example would be BT3/E4, BT2/E5, BT1/E6, BTC/E7, BTCS/E8, and BTCM/E9 where BT is for the "Rating" of Boiler Technician. The nor-rates depending on what category the "Rating" they were striking for feel could also be Seaman, Airman, Hospitalman, Dentalmanor Constructionman.( As per 21st Edition of the Bleujackets' Manual) The "E" and "O" pay grades did not come about until the approval of the "Career Compensation Act of 1949"; however, for comparison purposes, the 1st Grade, is the same as today's E-7; 7th Grade is the same as E-1. E8 and E9 were added in in 1958.
The Dutch pumped out a lot of water for centuries with windmills ... apparently the 129' long P&O drydock at the Albany Foreshore (in Australia) had a windmill pump to keep it dry (it leaked).
News to me and I'm Australian.
I've not seen anything noted in documents about Albany like that.
Will double check to confirm.
Not on topic, but the Dutch are very smart people. They used the same drainage channels that came from pumping water with windmills as inland "water roads". It falls together "naturally". By the 17th/18th century they might have had the best transport infrastructure in Europe.
@@leonpeters-malone3054 Me too and i lived in Albany but here we go museum.wa.gov.au/maritime-archaeology-db/content/floating-dock
The grill on a funnel top for the canvas cover can be seen in use in this WW2 instructional film 'Raising Steam: Naval Instructional Film A76' (1942)
At around 2:10 you can see the little door in the funnel base and ladder inside the funnel being used to get up to the cover and remove it.
You can also see the funnel stay wires being slackened to allow for expansion as the funnel heats up.
It has a good explanation of the three drum water tube Admiralty boiler with some good animated drawings ad cross sections.
ruclips.net/video/uwMRCU0olS0/видео.htmlsi=cvcBEQgZr3fwPpb9
All hail Hypnotoad.
Best opening song on RUclips…
0:33:28 Covadonga at the Battle of Punta Gruesa and various uses of fireships, like against the anchored Spanish Armada or the French Fleet at La Hogue...
Snowrunner+drydock. This will be a long haul... Awesome.
1:18:48: I wouldn't think the funnels are too large to cover in a single sheet canvas, but when you do it would sag down and create a water pool. The curve of the frame would keep the canvas in a tent shape, which is what I thought the answer would be.
1:05:40 The B-29s in the Pacific displayed names such as the Enola Gay, and Bockscar that also had art work.
USAF
They were US Army Air Force aircraft.
Regarding Imperial German Navy crew accommodation, I recall seeing it stated somewhere that it was the ready availability of on-shore accommodation that led German designers to sacrifice on-board crew comfort in favour of more subdivision and better protection than equivalent British ships. Is there any truth to this?
Sounds pretty stupid because then you'd have to always be within a sailing distance of a German port
Ode to Drach's Drydock .... Ahh .. that jaunty, scratchy music - that gets right in my ear :( .... But of course - the content ... - I just can't wait to hear :) Yes - the coverage and insight - it's all top tier ... So - sit back. relax and enjoy a Beer ! And of course - for all those imbibing ... Time to get around to subscribing !
"getting things out of politicians" is practically a hard requirement skill to even become a flag officer in any branch of any military. The whole point of flag rank is to be the interface between civilian government and military leadership. Anyone who isn't able to get things out of politicians won't ever get confirmed in rank.
@1:24:00 "ratings"
The British fascination with using a gerund for everything possible, even when there's a perfectly serviceable noun available, will never cease to confuse the hell out of me. Two particular favourites of mine are "the washing up" and "the washing up liquid". Both of these are far longer to say than the nouns they replace: "(dirty) dishes" and "detergent".
What would be the advantages and _disadvantages_ of a catamarian carrier (starting below the main or hangar deck) vs a single hulled carrier equivalent in terms of aircraft carried, speed and so forth? Would this have been another way the IJN could curcumvent the b'twixt war treaties?
My better half's sister served in the Royal Navy in the eighties as what was known as a "crusher", ie Naval police. Officially She was a Regulating Petty Officer Wren, Regulating being her branch, Petty Officer her rank and Wren indicating she was of the female persuasion.
re: 01:05:30 - Why was bomber nose art prohibited in the USN/USMC?
One issue may be the size of crews on the aircraft and what constituites a unit. You mention that USN/USMC squadrons tended to emphasize unit badges - and these would have roughly corresponded to 12-30 aircrew, plus however many mechanics made up a unit - at most 50 men, perhaps on average a couple of dozen? Whereas the typical 8th air force bomber might have a crew of a dozen or so, and perhaps as many ground crew, all associated to "their aircraft". Thus the same sized "morale unit" exists.
And while it's perhapos more rare to see aircraft art in other services, I think it is more common for, say, RAF Bomber Command aircraft than for fighters; even Mossies don't seem to carry as much aircraft art as the Lancs. And without digging into it too far, I suspect that the 8th Af nose art is really a feature of the B-17s and B-24s and perhaps less so on P-47s and P-51s on an individual aircraft basis.
The French Surcouf submarine carried two "not collapsible" motor-boats: a 33' speedboat ahead of the turret, and a 17' utility boat aft of the superstructure. These were carried in spaces in the deck casing.
wrt the question about carrier conversions if the Washington treaty occurred a few years later. I agree with Drac that the Japanese would have been looking at converting the Kiis. wrt to the USN, SecNav Daniels had proposed another building program to follow the 1916 program that included the Lexigntons. But Daniels was gone with the change of administration in 1921. A four year delay in the treaty would put the conference during the Coolidge administration. Coolidge was even less interested in defense spending than Harding had been. As Drac said, given the attitude in the US during the time, I doubt the USN would have had a big capital ship program in the 20s. It was apparently the US that proposed the battlecruiser conversion clause of the treaty. Without battlecruisers under construction, the US would not have proposed the clause. If the UK has a G3 follow-on under construction, it might propose the conversion clause, but why would the US agree to it? I am not sure the conversion clause would have existed at all. Without the special clause, conversions would be limited by the treaty's general carrier specification of 27,000 tons. Or, the conference could fail entirely, as the 1927 (Coolidge administration) conference failed. There may not have been a successful naval conference until First London, in 1930, motivated by the depression.
Another possible "Real World Example of USS Defiant" in my mind would be the Italian-built destroyer leader Tashkent of the Soviet Navy. I recall you recounted in its five-minute guide as a tough little ship, and a ship having almost as much power as a Dunkerque class battlecruiser stuffed into a hull with less than 1/9th of the battlecruiser's displacement. Like the Abdiel class you offered, it was another ship that generated ludicrous power and speed and found itself doing much different missions than the original design intent.
1:22:41 For those who don't know how it works in the USN... A RATE is a job. (Sonar Technician, Submarines was mine.) RATING is your rank. (Sonar Technician, Submarines 2nd Class was mine.) QUALIFICATION can refer to a number of other things, but often refers to WARFARE DEVICE. (QUALIFIED IN SUBMARINES was mine. Often called "Dolphins." Others are Surface Warfare, Pilot's Wings, the SEAL Trident and there are others. The shorthand for my rating was STS2(SS). This is, of course, not complicated or confusing at all.
All Petty Officers in the USN are RATED. You become RATED upon completion of "A" school, which is the school for your RATE. I was RATED as an Seaman. (STSSN) You can still join and go to sea as an Unrated sailor, but you can't become a Petty Officer while Unrated.
FYI: The Bluejacket's Manual defines Rate as your pay grade, and Rating as an "Enlisted Occupational Field" . In my case I left Boot Camp as a Fireman Apprentice, an undesignated E2 in the Engineering Field. At the end of a four year enlistment I left the navy as a BT2 where Second Class(E5) was my Rate, and Boiler Technician (BT) was my Rating.
Fun fact to 2:51:26 Imperial Navy and Oil, the first oildrilling in the world was done in Northern Germany in 1858
From what I can tell, for most of the 1950s US carrier air wings were limited to rocket salvos, dive/skip bombing, and torpedo attacks for conventional anti-shipping missions. Early on they could theoretically deploy Corsairs with ASM-N-2 Bats and later on aircraft with ASM-N-7 Bullpups. Additionally, the nuclear warhead armed BOAR entered service in 1956 and could be launched from F2H Banshees or AD Skyraiders.
Until the F4H and A6A all carrier types could carry any strike aircraft in the inventory. It was just a matter of numbers. USS Oriskany, which was the last Essex class carrier to deploy, in 1975, carried, 36 A7 and 24 F8 plus rotary and support aircraft. So in the late 50s the strike aircraft would have been a combination of A4Ds and AD. The fighter complement would vary.
And in the background to all the daylight air action between the 1st and 2nd Guadalcanal. Jun'yo nearly starts another carrier battle when one of her Kates spots Enterprise and Task Force 16. But when the strike comes, Enterprise is hiding under a squall.
Wonder how that would have turned. I forget was Zuikaku with Junyo, or was it just Junyo by itself.
@@warwatcher91 Zuikaku was back in Japan, so it was just Jun'yo.
Maybe the closest analog to USS Defiant is Shimakaze?
00:45:05 For context, one factoid I heard in an economic context was one large industrial steam engine did the work of 40 horses
00:47:40 Let us not fail to celebrate Adm. Lee as a quiet admiral who should be admired. Have we done a 'what if the IJN had prevailed at the Naval Battle of Guadalcanal" ?
and finally
00:51:48 the speaker implies, the listener infers (this might be a 'British' mistaken usage). I am not trying to be a picayune pendant .. it just comes natural.
In "exceptions to the general rule" some USN patrol bomber squadrons seem much more tolerant towards nose art (and even seem to have an exceptionally talented pool of artists). In addition to Drach's reasoning, I reckon it has something to do with an ideal canvas in the slab sides of the PB4Y, the more individual nature of the mission in terms of number of aircraft on any given patrol.. but for the most part being far enough away from anyone with enough braid on their cap to tell you not to.
1:24:10 in the US Navy in order to obtain the rank of petty officer third class, the lowest noncommissioned officer E4, you have to have a rating. You have to have usually gone to what is known as “A“ school. You can have a rating below third class or B what is known as undesignated when you are an E3 and below, but in order to take the third class exam, you have to have a rating as each exam is specific to each rating and rank.
01:24:54 One of the biggest bangs in Hailstone (Truk) was a Japanese ammunition ship that let go when bombed and took out the attacking aircraft so long fuses perhaps not. But one allied ammunition ship (John Harvey) was destroyed in Bari during the Italian campaign while carrying Mustard gas shells, which caused some interesting situations for medical personnel dealing with veterans of the campaign Post War.
Yes, but now we have chemotherapy, so….
@@ianyoung1106 That is just about the level of r^tarded fuxksh!t I except from followers of this video stream. The incident at Bardi had fuxk all to do with the development of chemotherapy, that is more closely linked to experiments carried out on Roma at the Natzweiler-Struthof KZ in Alsace. That Nitroglycerine is used widely in medical treatment of Cardio-vascular disease was not as a result of the huge expenditure of ammunition in the world wars. So grow the fuxk up you mor*n.
"... more gregarious admirals" - beeyoodiful!
Artists at the Disney Studios created art specially for use as nose and jacket art.
Walt Disney designed the famous Flying Tiger used by the American Volunteer Group aircraft.
walt disney
@@michaelotoole1807 oops
A lot off patrol aircraft, did not have assigned crews, since they flew very long missions, and therefore was more maintenance heavy, and had more airtime, with several crews, than USAF or ARMY in Europe with 3-4 hour missions!!
02:51:26 Pretty certain there were no oil resources in the German or Austro-Hungarian held areas of Poland, nor for that matter in Russian Poland. The main asset for Germany in Poland as a Naval asset was the Silesian Coal reserves, which comparatively high quality compared to the poor coal in Ruhr and Lignite muck elsewhere in Germany. The nearest oil reserves were in Romania, which the British destroyed when the Central powers overran Romania.
The 1914 list of oil producing regions includes a small amount from the area of Poland.
@@Drachinifel Sorry mate, but by 1914 the production in German held 'Poland' had all but ceased it started in the 1860s, and was effectively by bucket skimming tar fields around the Silesia coal fields, similar tar fields existed in Austria-Hungary in Bohemia, the place where the Curries got the Pitch Tar for their Radium refinement, but, most Austro-Hungarian oil around 2 Million tons crude a peak production in 1909 it tailed off rapidly after that, but was still supplying 90% of Austro-Hungarian Empire needs into WW1, these fields were Bobrka which is in Poland and is still operative as a fracking field between Krakow and Lemberg (Lviv now in Ukraine), and those south of Lviv around Tustanowice ( now Tuzhanivtsi) this production was however almost exclusively Oil Wax (ozokerite), effectively mined from material similar to coal tar, so dig a hole and the material seeps into the mine sump and is bucketed out (manual fracking). The rapidly declining production of the Tustanowice fields more or less collapsed in the aftermath of the collapse of Austria Hungary Nov 3rd 1918, but were re-established in the 1930s by the Soviets and operated in WW2 by Nazis. I have a particular interest in this production of oil in the area around Lviv because my paternal ancestry came from Lemberg, where the area became known as 'Galician California'.
@steve-qc8hd The first 'modern' oil discovery in NW Europe was made at the Wietze oil field near Hannover in Germany in 1859, leading to the identification of seventy more fields, mostly in Lower Cretaceous and Jurassic reservoirs at 200 to 300 metres deep, producing about 8,400 barrels per day at its peak - 3.066 million bbl per annum. Until 1920, Wietze was Germany’s most productive oil field; in 1909, Wietze was producing nearly 80% of Germany’s oil; production ended in 1963. In addition to the problem of small quantity, most German oil was quite waxy, which limited it to lubricants and paraffin. During WWI oil production was unable to expand due to a shortage of workers and necessary equipment.
Austria-Hungary had 'Galician California,' as it was called at the beginning of the twentieth century, at the town of Boryslav (near Lviv) - Kingdom of Galicia and Lodomeria. In 1909, production peaked at close to 15 million barrels from the Galician fields, 5% of global production. This made Austria-Hungary for a brief period the world’s third largest producer of oil after the US and Baku, Azerbaijan (Russia), almost all of which came from Galicia. It would be superseded by Mexico and later Venezuela (which, btw, for most the 1930s was the world's largest oil exporter). It was in Galacia the world's first modern oil refinery, the modern kerosene lamp, the modern street lamp, and the modern oil well were invented by Ignacy Lukasiewicz, a Pole.
1:22:15 You know us so well, Drach 😀
The Kii's? The secret? The kii to another way?
Yes, I know what I did. I do not regret it.
I'm giving myself a cookie too.
Re the Imperial German navy. It is worth remembering that if the rules of primogeniture now in place had been in place at the end of the 19th century Kaiser Wilhelm II would through his mother who was the oldest child of Queen Victoria have inherited the throne of the British empire making him William V as well as Wilhelm II king-emperor
Regarding nose art: aboard an aircraft carrier, an airplane with crude or offensive nose art is never more than about 400' from the bridge (when its not in the hangar), while a ground-based air force squadron could be dispersed along a couple thousand feet of runway. Out of sight, out of mind, perhaps?
A Patreon drydock that has crossed the 6 hour mark, something to note in our diary
Talk of press-gangs makes me think of the song Married to a Mermaid…
Just to point out, there were limits to the commission purchase system.
First there was a rank limit, the exact rank limit did change over time, but it was never higher than full Colonel. A commission above the highest rank could NOT be purchased. Period. So this idea that British officers could buy their way to General ranks is pure fallacy.
Second an officer had to purchase through the ranks, and had to spend a minimum term at each rank before he was eligible to purchase the following rank. This meant that a rich 17 year old could NOT in fact simply purchase a Colonels commission, he had to work through Lieutenant, Captain, major and so on, and spend a minimum of I believe two years at each rank before he was eligible to purchase the next rank.
Third it was on a strict time in rank system. If a Captains slot came up for example it would be offered first to the Lieutenant with the longest time in rank. If he refused it, it would be offered to the next lieutenant and so on down the chain.
Lastly not all officers slots were actually available for purchase, this is especially true in the technical arms. In the Royal Engineers and Royal Artillery for example no officer slots were available for purchase. None.
One thing to bear in mind during the purchase system is that these saleable ranks often constituted an officers retirement fund. Especially for officers who were not independently wealthy, which actually made up a percentage that would surprise people who know little about the history of the British Army, somewhere in the region of 30%. There were far more Sharpe's in the British Army than people at first assume. There were no pensions in those days days remember, so for those officers the proceeds of selling their commissions WAS their pension.
Lastly a purchased commission could be stripped with no recompense if an officer was to screw up too badly. This was especially true of Cowardice. This is where the term 'cashiered' comes from in the modern military parlance. Back in the day being cashiered referred to an officer who was stripped of their commission without recompense, and it was the ultimate dishonour for an officer to be so cashiered.
2:41:20 Yeah, make this picture black and white, like there isn't a considerable non-zero chance Ryan Szimanski can wonder into frame any second.
As far as bore sizes go(circa 1hr 1min), it seems as if they had guns in 44 Russian, but made the leap to .38 Special and later .357magnum. Smaller caliber, but more powerful.
00:27:57 You could say Capt Coles was good a wresting things from Parliament & Monarchy over the wishes of the Admiralty, but then maybe the Admiralty should have forced a few more of Coles friends and advocates onto HMS Captain.
Royal Marines in the Napoleonic area: Hearing you talk about degrees of connectedness for naval personnel in the early 18-hundreds, I assume you are familiar with C.N. Parkinson’s (of Britannia Rules) ‚Biography‘ of Horatio Hornblower, viz. his ‚Life and Times’ - as opposed to the action-heavy adolescent-arrousing C.S. Forrester accounts in the novels. Would you - on occasion - share your impressions om this?
Given the growing importance of fire-control systems and radar on directing anti-aircraft fire, the Atlanta class cruiser has the obvious advantage of having as many 5" 38 guns as three destroyers, directed by a single system. I would defintely rather have a few of those protecting my fleet while also deterring enemy destroyers with sheer weight of accurate fire.
50:20 as someone who idolized Halsey as a kid, I completely agree with you. He was what we needed early in the war, but by late war, not so much. I also used to be a big fan of MacArthur and Eisenhower. I definitely am not now, lol. On the flip side, I used to hate Admiral King, but now he is one of my favorites. It's amazing what you find when you get away from all the propaganda documentaries. I freely admit I was one of the kids who was blinded by all the "America won the war" crap. It was a team effort. Without all of us, we would have lost.
I get MacArthur, but why aren't you a fan of Eisenhower?
@@warwatcher91he was trying too hard to be good allies instead of winning the war. That being said, I do think he did pretty well as president. As someone who has played in the sand, I'm all for ending a war quicker than making sure my allies get enough glory.
Yamato's torpedo defend system was also proved in combat to be quite impressive. It's probably reason why Yamato was so much larger than Number 13. And it's really hard to quantify torpedo defend system.
Yamato's design was overall pretty good but I would never argue her TDS was one of her strong points.
@@bkjeong4302
While most ships sunk with 2-4 torpedos the Yamatos needed 10+
That seems good to me.
@@ThatZenoGuy more like 9 (the rest hit after she was already doomed). And yes, that's still a ton of torpedoes, but she could probably have taken a few more before rolling over with a better torpedo defense.
@@bkjeong4302 I naively thought the only thing mattered for TDS was volume. And Yamato seemed to be so much wider than No. 13 for no other reason at all. But your comment prompted me to actually find a diagram for size and surprisingly the volume for TDS in Yamato seems to be similar to other period ships.
Now I really wonder why she was so fat!!
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Musashi took almost 20, so 10 is a reasonable figure for the class.
Evidently it still worked.
Drach i have to respectively disagree with you on your view on Noseart. The 8th UAAF wasn't the only ones who allowed Noseart. What about the B-29s of the XXI Airforce? Enola Gay or Flying Boxcar? Also the Luftwaffe did alow certain units to have Noseart. Also there was one squadron of F6Fs that did have the Shark Nose for a brief time.
re Obsolete fleets - wouldn't the use of obsolete ships from R class BB's through ancient destroyers in Atlantic escort rate a mention?
Captin in the marines waa referd to as major on bord ship as you can't have 2 Captins on bord.
Guns:marines ratio
"Sir, we've lost a gun"
"Well, don't just stand there, throw a marine over the side"
What ship is that in the thumbnail
Re: Impressment - It is not completely unreasonable that 75% of RN sailors experienced impressment at some point in their careers. Consider when a ship paid off during a war and all the sailors were retained/ reassigned to another vessel. That is a form of impressment and likely happened to a high percentage of sailors.
serving for the duration of the conflict became quite common in the modern era. serving for the duration of the campaign was common in the napoleanic era especially in the armies.
Your answer on the French Navy design, so they're kind of the Kubrick of the naval world.
"The French imitate nobody, and nobody imitates the French". The mainly say that about French firearms, but it's equally true of their warships.
Detective inspectors.
Their interwar aircraft were even worse.
@@bkjeong4302 And now that I'm thinking about it, *definitely* their armored vehicles. So, yeah. Military equipment in general.
I would love a video about the ship that bears my states name. USS Mississippi BB-41.
The best nose art, bar none, was on RCAF Lancaster and Halifax aircraft in the 1944-45 period.
wrt the question about battleship guns being downsized at the turn of the century, as Drac said, the key development was smokeless powder. Black power burns very rapidly, so building a gun with a longer barrel is pointless, as the charge would be fully burned before the shell exited a barrel longer than 30 calibers, or so. The smokeless powders that were introduced around the turn of the century burned much slower, enabling longer barrels. As Drac said, I suspect the issue driving the downsizing was weight, because you really are not comparing the weight of a black or brown powder burning 13"/35 to a smokeless burning 12"/40. but the weight of a smokeless burning 13"/40 to a 12"/40. Gun weight plays a role in ship size, and cost. The BB4 Iowa was built as a smaller, cheaper, battleship, than the Indianas, just as Mississippi and Idaho were built as a smaller, cheaper, alternative to the Connecticuts, and downsizing from a 13"/35 to a 12"/35 played a role in downsizing the entire ship.
Is this the same guy from scotland who calls himself The Chieftan?
The Chieftain is Nick Moran. He has an Irish background, but is a US citizen. He was an armor branch us military officer, currently in the reserves. He is very much an ultra tank nerd/operator/historian. He has a you tube channel, just search for The Chieftain, if you have a lot of time for watching fascinating content about tanks. He knows what he is talking about.
As an Englishman I find it terribly difficult to differentiate between the two accents.
13:30 most of the 75% of men might have been pressganged 5, 10, 15 years earlier and they'd just stuck around as sailors for the rest of their lives
Could you address the whole massive failure of battleship and battlecruiser design? It was an enormous mistake to create a gigantic floating ammo dump, then invite the enemy to shoot at that massive floating ammo dump, and about one fourth of battleships sunk were destroyed by an enormous explosion of their magazines. Then, on top of that design failure, which was not realized because there was only one real fleet battleship on battleship action (Jutland) so countries kept on making these floating ammo dumps for 20-30 more years. And on top of that, they invented the battlecruiser, a floating ammo dump that had even LESS armor. Sheez!
I'd argue it's only once you get into the 1930s that battleships become massive disasters, which had everything to do with the fact the battleships built from that point onwards ended up being outright obsolete upon launch because carriers extended battle ranges to the point they couldn't serve as capital ships.
The floating ammo dump had armor untouchable by the guns of most smaller vessels, guns and fire control systems which outmatched the same. Only very late into carrier air wing development did aircraft achieve a capability matching/surpassing those of surface combatants. How much of a design failure was HMS Warspite, with her 15 battle honors?
I don’t know about this. The British bull and maintained the world’s largest empire ever through “gunboat diplomacy”. They figured out pretty early on that they could dispense with enormous numbers of occupying troops by strategically employing the battleship to manipulate trade, enforce sea access/denial, and occasionally disgorging armed men into conflict ashore. It 100% worked for them. And even though 1-for-1 their older battleships weren’t ideal specimens in combat, they simply built enough to overwhelm their enemies.
All warships of the early to mid-20th century are floating ammo dumps.
Destroyers don't even have armor, which makes them especially vulnerable. A single torpedo or bomb hit could sink a destroyer with all hands lost.
Cruisers, of course, don't have enough armor to stop battleship grade fire, or even cruiser grade fire at close enough range. They are floating ammo dumps that don't have anywhere near as much armor as battlecruisers - and yet they are expected to do the same jobs. Go figure.
Aircraft Carriers are not just floating ammo dumps, they also have lots of highly flammable gasoline, flammable lubricants, and perhaps even liquid oxygen to help the fires burn brighter.
So either all warship design was badly flawed, or you're missing some fundamental concepts here and haven't figured that out yet.
Now that I've given you a hint, which do you think it is?
I'll give you another hint: due to the effectiveness of period anti-air defenses, a Vietnam war era US government study found that over 90% of carrier air missions could be accomplished by battleship gunnery at far lower cost in money and lives. Not bad for a floating ammo dump that is an example of the 'whole massive failure of battleship and battlecruiser design' - or maybe you just haven't thought these matters through yet.
Would you care to take a moment and rephrase the question?
37:00 Yeah, the french have that in the bag
Yeah... this was funny
HMS Defiant!
did the marines get prize money as well
When did Press gangs end? Did lesser. Members of Royal family routinely join the Royal Navy?
Like brother of the King or other high ranking 2nd string Royalty?
2:29:00 This is also why the Japanese gave up on trying to make the Yamatos go at 30+kt and settled for 27-28kt (still fast enough to be competitive but not as fast as other contemporary Axis battleships). The designs that would have allowed the Yamatos to go that fast while carrying three triple 18" turrets or four triple 16" turrets were so excessively large that Japan couldn't build them.
What did Cochrane Do? DR Zefram Cochrane was first human to crack the warp barrier, have some respect people! ;-)
I learned the truth at 17... good morning viet nam !
What was the most useless Battleships and why was it USS Massachusetts?
US Navy film on improving crew comfort
Improving Shipboard Living Conditions, 1953
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The French copy no one and no one copies the French
No.
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What I'm getting at is maybe you could possibly stick a couple more pictures in.🤔 Sometimes you give a 15 minute answer and although you do answer everything quite thoroughly it's really boring to stare at a Royal Marine for an hour.🤔
Or even 15 minutes. 😋
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The intro music needs to change.
No absoulutley not
00:52:26, Value of Ferris scrap in 1945 was at best marginal, but pretty sure the vessels sunk by Deadlight were from British Reparations, after WW2 it was lack of facility to scrap war material that was the problem not so much putting equipment beyond use, so ammunition which is otherwise of high value (brass cases) was just a case of costing too much to recycle (unlike in WW1 and in Korean War), although it may have been a benefit in both Germany and Japan to employ civilians to reverse manufacture materials, rather than have them sitting around on welfare food stamps. In UK many 'small AFVs' were reverse manufactured even into the 1950s for example Universal carriers and post Suez Cromwell and Centaur Armoured recovery vehicles were scrapped by reverse manufacture. Comparatively, little contraband equipment got to unauthorised users - although the IDF managed to get a bunch of Beau-fighters in 1948, but I really doubt a Haganah navy would have had much need for an old submarine in the period 1945 to 1948.
02:23:15 Considering that there was a plane for supper Yamato with the 18 inch turrets swapped out for 2 x 20 inch guns so a six gun ship, would have certainly been better without the centreline 3 x 6 inch turrets.
1:24:10 in the US Navy in order to obtain the rank of petty officer third class, the lowest noncommissioned officer E4, you have to have a rating. You have to have usually gone to what is known as “A“ school. You can have a rating below third class or B what is known as undesignated when you are an E3 and below, but in order to take the third class exam, you have to have a rating as each exam is specific to each rating and rank.