The Story of Shaw, Mathias Shaw, the James Bond of Warcraft! [Lore]

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  • Опубликовано: 27 авг 2024
  • Spymaster Mathias Shaw has been serving the crown for nearly all his life and has gone more out of the shadows lately...What's his story? What has the leader of the SI:7 done in his time? That's what we're going to be talking about today! I hope you'll enjoy ^_^
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Комментарии • 516

  • @iceheart1289
    @iceheart1289 4 года назад +370

    If hes a master of shadows and staying out of sight, why does he have bright gold all over his armor, expert I think not!

    • @Kylora2112
      @Kylora2112 4 года назад +50

      When you're that sneaky, you can dress like Liberace and still stay unseen. Mathias Shaw's spy teacher never saw him in stealth class.

    • @iceheart1289
      @iceheart1289 4 года назад +32

      @@Kylora2112 if was never seen in stealth class did he get straight A's or did he fail because his teachers thought he never showed up.

    • @spikegilfer1997
      @spikegilfer1997 4 года назад +25

      @@iceheart1289 Yes.

    • @moonchild4648
      @moonchild4648 4 года назад +11

      it requires a LOT of skill to sneak around when you dress like that, so maybe it's a form of bragging about his habilities?

    • @ravipun9047
      @ravipun9047 4 года назад

      gurr

  • @aprilmushroom8986
    @aprilmushroom8986 4 года назад +405

    historians will say they were bestfriends

    • @hyukin56ace50
      @hyukin56ace50 4 года назад +20

      KeennkojoTV they are buddies noting more

    • @neontenebrae1918
      @neontenebrae1918 4 года назад +76

      Two bros chilling in a hot tub, five feet apart cos they're not gay 👀

    • @ogikay7056
      @ogikay7056 4 года назад +28

      No they were room mates.

    • @TheHughgee
      @TheHughgee 4 года назад +6

      They were cousins!!!! /s

    • @emcrae4764
      @emcrae4764 4 года назад +3

      SI:7 will come for them

  • @philiplight226
    @philiplight226 4 года назад +45

    If Mathias Shaw appeared in a WOW live action movie, he would be played by Ewan Mcgregor. I don’t know why, but it makes sense.

  • @RoberMatts
    @RoberMatts 4 года назад +177

    All I want is for Blizzard to show Mathias being a badass rogue in a cinematic. Might not happened this expansion but would be lovely. BLIZZARD PLS!!!!!!!

    • @celiovicenteribeirofilho9740
      @celiovicenteribeirofilho9740 4 года назад +9

      Alliance? Being badas?? LOL! Sorry! The way Blzizard wants to write the alliance, we should always be grateful that they did not make him into Jonhy English during BfA.

    • @ValensBellator
      @ValensBellator 4 года назад +5

      He’s basically what I had hoped Garona would be for the horde.

    • @yaboym9631
      @yaboym9631 4 года назад +3

      @@celiovicenteribeirofilho9740 what about varian, he was as badass as they came

    • @celiovicenteribeirofilho9740
      @celiovicenteribeirofilho9740 4 года назад +1

      @@yaboym9631 Yep, yep! Varian! But Varian was the last good thing the alliance lost, before the current lore team decided that to tell a story of the horde, the alliance needed to be a patetica version, of itself, and play dumb for the horde to feel good. Alliance has half gods in their group? Let's make their leaders be idiots who forget the most basic of what we know about the Horde and blight, we will make them lose one of their capitals and never get back the act, by letting Syl use a tatica of devastated land to thwart this only chance to hit the horde hard, while not letting them use the advantages it has ( I'm looking at you Vindica , wherever you have beaten) and do everything ally conquered in BfA be just a phyrric vitory, while the horde not only destroyed Darnassus as deprered Darkshore and completed deforestation with Blight.
      And we haven't even seen Gilneas recovered in game. Just in a crappy book, that we would never allow us to see any reflection of something where it really matters, in game, as the horde can always see Gilneas ruined, Theramore nuked to hell and now, with Darnassus in the largest pile of coal in Azeroth and the horde coming out unpunished with another free pass and the alliance with its pride and union in tatters as we could see in our cinematic end-of-war motivator at the embassy that was depressing , which was sad, to the satisfaction of Blizzard and Horde.
      And let's not even talk about seeing Jaina and Geblin converted into loot pinatã for the horde, when we didn't even have the same in the alliance, having to be humiliated in seeing the fight for the horde version, purple blood elves who never gave a rotten apple by the alliance as placebo to High elves, obese kultirans who have not earned the respect of virtually anyone and junkgnomes who have an imperceptive minority that of them not garnering any prestige and interest to ally , as the opposite race of the vulperas superpopulars, relegating the alliance feel a lack of disgusting prestige, which seems more to have been made to demoralize the alliance in any assessment.

    • @bindair_dundat
      @bindair_dundat 4 года назад

      Passionately "backstabbing" Fairwind, or what?

  • @BioNichole1
    @BioNichole1 4 года назад +160

    "Just because he was attracted to Taelia, it doesn't mean that he can't be attracted to Matthias Shaw."
    Nobble said bisexual rights.

  • @bruel_9096
    @bruel_9096 4 года назад +507

    James Bond got himself a Jack Sparrow ;)

    • @alexandarvoncarsteinzarovi3723
      @alexandarvoncarsteinzarovi3723 4 года назад +35

      HIDE THE RUM!

    • @SoupBrigade
      @SoupBrigade 4 года назад +17

      Are you thirsty? I'm thirsty!

    • @Nymphastraza26
      @Nymphastraza26 4 года назад +5

      too true;)

    • @973walid
      @973walid 4 года назад +3

      Hé be of the gay i think? I hope Blizzard drops a bomshell like it. Ps. Hang the dark lady for Vol jin!

    • @DNGG10
      @DNGG10 4 года назад +1

      @@973walid I say you should read Shadows Rising!

  • @WillowHeartz
    @WillowHeartz 4 года назад +119

    23:52-24:04
    Mathias feeling his nice warm coat
    Flynn: "EASY SAILOR! I know I look good, but we got work to do"
    Freakin died! Good timing Noble!

  • @HockeyStickDefence
    @HockeyStickDefence 4 года назад +43

    Seeing the story of a man who’s realised he hasn’t been living for his own happiness despite being one of the best to do his line of work, been on a path pre-destined for him by his mother/grandmother, and who now wants to find his happiness in a world where he could die at any time due to his job is refreshing to see.

    • @tylermucha9281
      @tylermucha9281 3 года назад +2

      I agree. I never much cared about Matthias Shaw but I really enjoyed his whole story

  • @greyworld6242
    @greyworld6242 4 года назад +96

    I hope alleria gets character development in this expansion. As well as vereesa.

    • @spikegilfer1997
      @spikegilfer1997 4 года назад +16

      Vereesa getting development has historically been a painful enterprise for her. Maybe she'll get a bit more of the Jaina BFA treatment?

    • @seanh1321
      @seanh1321 4 года назад +10

      Hopefully they dont have her just standing in one place like she was pretty much the whole of BfA

    • @seanh1321
      @seanh1321 4 года назад +14

      I also want the void elves as a whole to get more development, out of all allied races they have so little lore.

    • @gabrieleslinger6169
      @gabrieleslinger6169 4 года назад +6

      Honestly, Alleria seems like she's going going to go down a Sylvanas route. Mind you, I don't think this is a bad thing; if done correctly, this could be used to have the Windrunner sisters foil off one another. No doubt Sylvanas is going to die or at least be defeated in Shadowlands, but I think Alleria could help build both characters, drawing similarities between herself and Sylvanas, whilst expressing the differences between the sisters through Vereesa.
      Mind you, this could be done correctly if Blizzard writes the story competently, like how Kathreen's character was built upon by Jaina and Lady Ashvane, whilst also building Jaina's character in the process. But you should also remember, these guys are the guys who didn't have us kill Grommash at any point in WoD and also killed N'zoth in a patch, so it's kinda a coin flip

    • @teacoon6399
      @teacoon6399 4 года назад +2

      Hope she gets a bit more shit for painting Sylvanas as a horrible monster just for being undead and I hope Vereesa gets called out for at least pushing her into this direction as she was the one who wanted to kill Garrosh and later turned her back on her.

  • @Girundy
    @Girundy 4 года назад +164

    I’m a Horde player and this is one of coolest characters on alliance that I like.

    • @mk_gamíng0609
      @mk_gamíng0609 4 года назад +10

      @John Nabil Valeera has always been more of a alliance character, her loyalties are her own and shes loyal to house Wrynn so as long a Wrynn sits on the throne she will be more of an alliance char

    • @ValensBellator
      @ValensBellator 4 года назад +3

      The only ally I played was pre-bc Vanilla to 60 as well as the cata quests in the old world... right now I’m rushing through all of the quests throughout the expansions for fear that they’ll soon be gone, and Shaw is one of the people I’m most looking forward to seeing! Dude is so cool.

    • @godlygamer911
      @godlygamer911 4 года назад +4

      @John Nabil Valeera has pretty much always been Alliance...

    • @antoniojoe8918
      @antoniojoe8918 4 года назад +2

      hahaha i know u feel men im horde player too and i like him too

    • @joel7342
      @joel7342 4 года назад +1

      @@ValensBellator The quests won't be gone right?

  • @Menion98
    @Menion98 4 года назад +58

    Mathias Shaw x Flynn Fairwind was the OTP I didn’t know I needed

  • @philippeblais8594
    @philippeblais8594 4 года назад +51

    10:09 "an arms race that will change Azeroth forever." Well, up till 8.3 when Azerite was seemingly completely forgotten about in the face of N'zoth.

    • @DarkApostleNoek
      @DarkApostleNoek 4 года назад +3

      Except for the Tiragarde story, did Azerite actually play any real role story wise?

    • @seanh1321
      @seanh1321 4 года назад +1

      @@DarkApostleNoek and when we kamehameha'd N'zoth, that's about it.

    • @philippeblais8594
      @philippeblais8594 4 года назад

      @@DarkApostleNoekLady Ashvane was trying to produce weapons made from Azerite. So, yes. Azerite was prominent in Tiragarde.

    • @paxtonjolly7975
      @paxtonjolly7975 4 года назад +1

      I mean we did use the power of the azerite through our necklaces in order to destroy nzoth

    • @philippeblais8594
      @philippeblais8594 4 года назад

      @@paxtonjolly7975 I mean that we never saw Azerite come up in corrupted zones. Never saw old Gods trying to seize this obviously powerful stuff.

  • @mortenjusk
    @mortenjusk 4 года назад +56

    i guess rogues DO do it from behind

  • @andruism7
    @andruism7 4 года назад +10

    Once they upgraded his gear, I couldn’t understand how he could be such an expert spy/infiltrator when his armor is so snazzy.

  • @Marcai
    @Marcai 4 года назад +121

    "Are you thirsty? I'm thirsty."

    • @Goldskull_96
      @Goldskull_96 4 года назад +14

      we're all thirsty for a bit of Shaw

    • @katzicael
      @katzicael 4 года назад +9

      @@Goldskull_96 and Flynn ;)

    • @aminsiagian364
      @aminsiagian364 4 года назад +7

      Shaw is hot, and greyman is daddy. Im gonna stop talking...
      Just some horny night elf here

  • @Arigost
    @Arigost 4 года назад +46

    People saying he's incompetent for being captured in Legion are being stupid what exactly can he do when a Dreadlord teleports and instantly slaughters your entire group and subdues you with magic within seconds of appearing in sight?

    • @gitgud4065
      @gitgud4065 4 года назад +4

      Cloak of shadows and vanish? :p

    • @oxeroth
      @oxeroth 4 года назад +2

      Vanish, zap and run

    • @prinstyrio0
      @prinstyrio0 4 года назад +2

      Yeah, people underestimate Dreadlords or the demons themselves. Just because we go around killing them willy-nilly by the time of Legion doesn't mean it's the same for everyone else. Dreadlords used to exclusively be powerful elites and they're meant to be the most masterful infiltrators in a cosmic conquering force.

    • @darkwhispersstories47
      @darkwhispersstories47 4 года назад +3

      Wait..What?
      Dreadlords are basically the Daddies of all Rogues for fk sake..their entire Race is known for shadow magic..deception and being Cunning! What...HOW can you put the blame on 1 guy for this??

  • @MrDrackus
    @MrDrackus 4 года назад +80

    Does this make Flynn a bond girl?

    • @mezoglea5801
      @mezoglea5801 4 года назад +7

      ABSOLUTELY

    • @kizu00
      @kizu00 4 года назад +4

      only in heteronormative terms :p

  • @ericsigil
    @ericsigil 4 года назад +10

    "Now do we worry?
    Nope, nope. Now we run!" lololol

  • @Frosty_Asshole98
    @Frosty_Asshole98 4 года назад +136

    Is it me, or did Nobbel get hella sensual talking about FairShaw xD He ships it as hard as we do

    • @Dwayneff
      @Dwayneff 4 года назад +3

      noooo :( Vanessa and Shaw.

    • @randombloodleaf22
      @randombloodleaf22 4 года назад +9

      The SS FairShaw will set sail!!

    • @noctusowl
      @noctusowl 4 года назад +2

      @@Dwayneff She is more like a daughter to him.

    • @eaglebach3154
      @eaglebach3154 3 года назад +1

      Nobbel, I need to know who’s top and who’s bottom. Can you delve deeper into the lore for this?

    • @noctusowl
      @noctusowl 3 года назад +4

      @@eaglebach3154 Most fanfic put Flynn as top as Matthias as bottom. Official lore will never go that deep.

  • @ChuuniVT
    @ChuuniVT 4 года назад +16

    I would love for a book or short story about Mathias' younger days, whether during training under his Grandmother or after, it's a lot of untouched potential!

  • @hkyle2212
    @hkyle2212 4 года назад +75

    Better love story than Tyrande and Malfurion.

    • @Roamingfirebat
      @Roamingfirebat 4 года назад +2

      Agreed

    • @jackmion
      @jackmion 4 года назад +2

      They have been together for too long. Ask someone who has been married for 1 year. It could be worse.

    • @karma0253
      @karma0253 3 года назад

      @@jackmion They only married after WC3

    • @eaglebach3154
      @eaglebach3154 3 года назад

      He spends most of the time sleeping and rarely there for her when she needs him. Not to mention he’s a clingy whiny loser.

    • @Poppzrox
      @Poppzrox 3 года назад +1

      every love story is better than theirs. they suck.

  • @Eldest98642
    @Eldest98642 4 года назад +10

    9:30 Valeera sitting on the chair is the best part

  • @ThatGUY666666
    @ThatGUY666666 4 года назад +5

    16:27 I found that particularly memorable because you just do not expect to hear such a retort from someone who is that good at keeping his emotions in check and had come across as being rather amoral for so long.

  • @Whydoesthissitesuck
    @Whydoesthissitesuck 4 года назад +11

    I just came here to see if there was anyone in the comments in denial about Mathias and Flynn's relationship

  • @emh7769
    @emh7769 3 года назад +4

    TERROR BY TORCHLIGHT?!?! no one ? No one read Terror by Torchlight ? It's a prequel story for the Exploring Azeroth: Eastern Kingdoms book. It's been officially posted by Blizzard, and in the story Mathias and Flynn become CANON and it's official. I'm so so surprised NO ONE is talking about this... Please PLEASE go read it - it's free online...

  • @greymanefxi6404
    @greymanefxi6404 4 года назад +19

    Ms. Madeline Roux did an excellent job writing/building Mathias Shaw amd Flynn Fairwind's relationship together, it's so wholesome to read

  • @jackies.6211
    @jackies.6211 4 года назад +51

    People being confused about Flynn crushing on both Taelia and Shaw? Bi and pan people exist, y'all!

    • @Pweips
      @Pweips 4 года назад +2

      🙌

  • @theboofysystem
    @theboofysystem 4 года назад +4

    The in depth explanation of how Mathias thinks of Flynn was on another level... Also this is surprisingly new of bliz to have a romantic story like even the couples of this game don't rly have time to be romantic so this should be good

  • @vindurza
    @vindurza 4 года назад +29

    I'm actually really happy to see him and Flynn together they make a fun duo

  • @abbyharker6686
    @abbyharker6686 4 года назад +33

    I'm an old heterosexual woman and I am all hyped about FairShaw. After 16 years of playing the first couple I really am excited for. I hope they will live long enough to develop their love.

    • @valkyriesardo278
      @valkyriesardo278 4 года назад +2

      I'm an old heterosexual woman who has played since BC. Apparently you skipped the Legion xpac because Flynn is straight. I am skeptical of Roux as an author for WOW canon. I think she's barking up the wrong tree. But then again, I personally dislike pink hair, piercings, and tattoos. I never have done fads.

    • @lio6502
      @lio6502 4 года назад +12

      @@valkyriesardo278 oh my god one of the people that worked for blizzard at that time and was involved in the creation of the quests with flynn literally said hes bi. his crush on taelia was never meant to go anywhere

    • @aaefvacce
      @aaefvacce 4 года назад +7

      @@valkyriesardo278 (1) Flynn didnt exist in Legion. (2) Blizzard told Roux to set him up with Shaw as part of the outline of evemts they wanted to happen in this book.

  • @MiaThorsteinsson
    @MiaThorsteinsson 4 года назад +17

    TBH I have shipped Mathias and Flynn ever since that little heist into the treasury.. Back then, it was little more than a fangirl's crazy ship, but to see them actually together makes my heart melt.. I'm so happy, that Blizzard is finally embracing the little details, like a spiring romance between their characters, it gives the game so much depth, rather than just hosting a vouple thousand murderhoboes..

  • @Hydrargiros
    @Hydrargiros 4 года назад +12

    better title : The Story of Shaw, Mathias Shaw, the James Bond of Warcraft!

    • @Nobbel87
      @Nobbel87  4 года назад +5

      when you're right, you're right!

  • @Styder111
    @Styder111 4 года назад +8

    Hey Nobbel!
    Suggestion. Maybe a series on forgotten lore? Important or significant characters/events that have been ignored, overlooked, forgotten over the years?Not including obviously retconned lore.

  • @hallec504
    @hallec504 4 года назад +3

    Legion made shaw so cool, im glad they are using him a lot more. as a rogue it was so cool seeing shaw with valeera after that cutscene in bfa, really felt like the uncrowned was getting back together.

  • @amprenta15
    @amprenta15 4 года назад +23

    RIP Amber Kearnen

  • @ValensBellator
    @ValensBellator 4 года назад +34

    He’s basically what I had hoped Garona would be for the horde.

    • @gabrieleslinger6169
      @gabrieleslinger6169 4 года назад +8

      The horde has a lot of potential with character development in rogue characters, Garona, Lillian Voss, Valeera; to name a few. The problem?
      They have almost nobody to play off of and make their characters interesting. Characters are made interesting by how they interact with their environment/other characters. Shaw is interesting because he plays off characters, such as Graymane and, most notably, Flynn. Are there any characters who Garona interacts with? Nope. What about Valeera, well yes, but that character is Shaw and she's mostly there to drive plot, like in the case of her attending the meeting with Wrathion, Anduin, and Magni at the start of 8.3 (the only purpose of her presence was so the horde could have an introductory quest to the cloak, visions, and new raid).
      Voss has potential to be driven by Stone, who mirrors her character quite a bit, in a sort of mentor and teacher sort of way, but in my opinion: the best character to further Lilian Voss's character was Thomas Zelling, who was infinitely more interesting than Stone and had the potential to become a badass main character, but was killed off to make Sylvanas seem ruthless. Truthfully, as pissed as everyone got at N'zoth's fast death and wasted potential, I was more pissed off by how a great character like Zelling was killed to make Sylvanas, the character who burned a city full of civilians alive because one elf told her that she couldn't kill hope, seem ruthless.

    • @aethewulf4787
      @aethewulf4787 4 года назад +8

      @@gabrieleslinger6169 Valeera serve house Wrynn

    • @deadwar56
      @deadwar56 4 года назад

      I want some character development in some not evil warlock characters

    • @veselinrankov7322
      @veselinrankov7322 4 года назад

      @@gabrieleslinger6169 Valeera has nothing to do with the Horde, her only loyalty is to house Wrynn. Only reason why she was in Zandalar was because she was sent there by Anduin to tell the Horde hero (the player character) what had happened in Stormwind with Wrathion and introduce them to 8.3 content.

    • @voidwalker6581
      @voidwalker6581 4 года назад

      Aethewulf she serve not becz allinace lol , she serve to make peace 2 faction , valeera bloodelvs Belong horde faction not alliance

  • @Neviriah
    @Neviriah 4 года назад +16

    I hope we get more representation like this in the game. It doesn't have to be in anyone's face, but just for it to be there and be making everyone feel like it's the most normal thing. We need more of that ♥️
    Awesome video nobbel ^_^

  • @heubbeujv6209
    @heubbeujv6209 4 года назад +37

    Wow. Never been into love relationships in this game but here, this is very refreshing and interesting! More than tyrande shouting MY LOVE 30 times in legion. Good to see some diversity in the game.

  • @TheSpoegefugl
    @TheSpoegefugl 4 года назад +68

    The last time I was this early, my girlfriend was quite disappointed

  • @Sachmeris
    @Sachmeris 4 года назад +14

    Thnx for the video Nobbel. It's been painful to see people completely ignorant towards the chemistry Flynn and Shaw have. Hopefully, your video put some light on it for them.

  • @dubiousbrick4483
    @dubiousbrick4483 4 года назад +3

    I'm happy you went over some of the Rogue order hall stuff, maybe random but im happy you brought up Amber Kiernen. I hated that they killed her off. i was really REALLY hoping she would be a follower in the Hunter order hall campaign you could recruit. It made perfect sense since she was a sniper that had your back in quite a few zones/quest chains. So dumb they killed her off, i liked Amber, im happy she played a semi-important part in the lore, i just wish she was still around. Who knows, maybe we'll meet her again and she will be sniping enemies in the Maw with us. idk, she was one of those characters thats been around for a while from classic, to the cata revamp quests, and my fav, the Jade forrest quest chain, she was awesome. Her and John J Keeshan have to be my fav side NPC characters.

  • @girl1213
    @girl1213 4 года назад +23

    My reaction to Shaw and Flynn: 😯😲👏
    Didn't expect that from either of them, but this is the first gay couple I'm aware of to be in Warcraft. At least among the major or high important support characters.

    • @MrAndido
      @MrAndido 4 года назад +4

      It’s the first. Trust me, I combed the entire wow lore 3 times over just to check that. And tbh, I’M SO HAPPY ❤️(even if it’s probably gonna be kept in the books ‘cuz blizz wants money from countries where gay is illegal. So yey. Still a cool romance, tho)

    • @QenaitheCustodianGuard
      @QenaitheCustodianGuard 4 года назад

      "same sex couple" gay is an orientation.
      But I agree it was about time, but iam glad it was these two, they are a great match in my opinion.

    • @meltharion316
      @meltharion316 4 года назад +3

      It's the first canonically acknowledged. There's a few quests with suggestive dialogue (a tauren and night elf druid pair in firelands is the only one I can think of rn).

    • @girl1213
      @girl1213 4 года назад

      @@QenaitheCustodianGuard I *completely* forgot Flynn's crush on Taelia

  • @AlloyOzz08
    @AlloyOzz08 4 года назад +1

    So thankful that you did this video! I listened to the Audio Book of Shadows Rising and became very interested in Shaw and came here to take a look for a video and couldnt find one. Thanks for making this at the right time!

  • @lytherael2309
    @lytherael2309 4 года назад +50

    Pretty sure Flynn is bi.

    • @sylphephilippe449
      @sylphephilippe449 4 года назад +9

      It has been confirmed by its creator ^^ ! On twitter if I remember. First he was in love with the girl from Boralus (don't remember her name, with her gryphon !) and then he fell in love with Shawn :p !

    • @lytherael2309
      @lytherael2309 4 года назад +1

      @@sylphephilippe449 Taelia Fordragon isn't a hard name to remember. o.o

    • @sylphephilippe449
      @sylphephilippe449 4 года назад +1

      @@lytherael2309 tAEliA ! Sorry but it's too complicated in a game with so much similar names xd !

    • @darkwhispersstories47
      @darkwhispersstories47 4 года назад +1

      @@lytherael2309 so first with the Lich king daughter?(is his daughter right?)
      Damn thats quite the chain of love

    • @lytherael2309
      @lytherael2309 4 года назад

      @@darkwhispersstories47 Yep.

  • @Shervin86
    @Shervin86 4 года назад +6

    They made Mathias Shaw into Capt. Flint! 😄

  • @scrimothy9849
    @scrimothy9849 4 года назад +1

    damn 2 days ago i was searching for a lore video about mathias on your channel and i was kinda sad that there were no videos.and now you upload this.ty

  • @wizzolo
    @wizzolo 4 года назад +2

    the spymaster that wanted the presence of his spies in orgrimmar to be known, but didn't consider them being fed misinformation by sylvanas.
    the one that lost track of a huge army marching in the open barrens, in full daylight, not hidden by magic, dragging along siege weapons, despite having spies in that army.

  • @spikegilfer1997
    @spikegilfer1997 4 года назад +66

    "More like 'Gaymes Bond' lmao."
    And that's my impulsive move for the day.

  • @BrainGushersTV
    @BrainGushersTV 4 года назад +3

    These videos are why I really want to re-level a new toon all over again just to make sure I do allll quests and read thru all the lore lol. It's so much more interesting when I end up watching these videos first. But with Shadowlands coming out and the reworking of levels, Idk if doing something like that is pointless right now or not. >.>

    • @noctusowl
      @noctusowl 4 года назад +1

      Every expansion I do that on both factions.

  • @elisabethkrenn6218
    @elisabethkrenn6218 4 года назад +2

    I really hope it works out for them. I genuinely do.
    *looks for excuses to go bridesmaid-dresses shopping (flattering of course! Being a void-elf doesn't kill the fashion sense you know.)

  • @nezunskyfire292
    @nezunskyfire292 4 года назад +10

    Welcome to my secret lair on Skullcrusher the Mountain~
    ...wait...

  • @pandakc1
    @pandakc1 4 года назад +12

    Just love how people are complaining about “Oh it’s being forced!” Or “Oh I’m unsubing because there just happens to be a non straight relationship!”. One their story if you actually pay attention isn’t forced at all.. two most of those who are complaining about it being two guys wouldn’t say crap if it were about two girls now would you? No, you wouldn’t complain at all. So, who cares if a character is bi?! It’s 2020! Get over it!!

  • @a_viewer5386
    @a_viewer5386 Год назад +1

    Ok but why is nobody talking about the subtitles at 14:21
    I love it when people do fun things with subtitles

  • @SilverFoxGames1177
    @SilverFoxGames1177 7 месяцев назад

    As a new rogue player. This was awesome thank you so much. I loved Flynn in BFA such an amazing character and I did not know about any book. I’ll check it out soon.

  • @Adjusting
    @Adjusting 4 года назад +4

    It's about time.

  • @noraj.5100
    @noraj.5100 Год назад

    In the Exploring Azeroth: Eastern Kingdoms book, there's a snippet where Shaw talks about Amber Kearnen and how she was his close (best?) friend, which is really sad :(

  • @blindfold1046
    @blindfold1046 4 года назад +21

    you know, i'm here for Mathias x Flynn

  • @harrisonvc9175
    @harrisonvc9175 4 года назад +28

    *sigh* i dread it whenever i hear that blizz (or any other popular game, tv show, etc...) is writing in a gay relationship. Every time this happens everyone loses their mind. im gay and it sucks to see so much homophobic hate boil to the surface yet again :/

    • @KabukiJava
      @KabukiJava 4 года назад +11

      I feel ya but I think overall this ones been pretty positive the only people who seem to be bitching are the same people that bother to whine on the forums and troll on trade chat and literally nothing makes them happy so easy to ignore them like I always do lol

    • @stormstrider1990
      @stormstrider1990 4 года назад +9

      When a popular manga or anime introduces an LGBT character, nobody bats an eye.
      When a popular western franchise introduces an LGBT character, it's "SJW"- this and "liberal pandering"- that.
      It seems you can no longer enjoy a franchise without choosing sides.

    • @saffronic3026
      @saffronic3026 4 года назад +2

      I think people were just rooting for Valeera and Shaw, seeing as how that's out the window I'm hoping for Valeera and Feathermoon, a strong lesbian couple would do some good I think

    • @vikkysenpai
      @vikkysenpai 4 года назад +2

      @@saffronic3026 shouldve been Thalissra and Lady Liadrin for the strong lesbian couple and shaw and valeera as a strong hetero couple. I'm all for same sex relationships when it feels they make sense. Shaw and Flynn really only had that 1 interaction in 1 war campaign quest and it felt like a forced relationship to me in the book. The gay farmer and the lesbian Zandalari trolls didnt feel forced it felt like it gelled in perfectly but Shaw and Flynn felt like a "diversity couple" to just push a major character gay for no reason. Idk my personal opinion on it. I'm fine if they had more chemistry but I dont see it tbh

    • @twelvezeros
      @twelvezeros 4 года назад +3

      I'm gay and i LOVE it. Just enjoy it, why focus on the negativity?

  • @vcxlll
    @vcxlll 4 года назад +4

    Hi nobbel, haven't watched in years. Glad ure still doing these!
    Actually if I want to start learning about the Lore of WoW from the beginniningining, which vidya/Playlist would you recommend starting from? Is there a series of playlists and an order to watching them?

    • @Nobbel87
      @Nobbel87  4 года назад +2

      I got some playlists in chrono order yea! 1: ruclips.net/p/PLV3Yvqnl3FYcsI4px2GaIxUQ8io4kuZ2s 2: ruclips.net/p/PLV3Yvqnl3FYfJu8KqFv-MAj88mPue6ZH4 3: ruclips.net/p/PLV3Yvqnl3FYeF53PWfZgFAKYtmRSjS5hH 4: ruclips.net/p/PLV3Yvqnl3FYdrisuybIZzneHMAtGMRFuf

  • @Vanessa_exe
    @Vanessa_exe 4 года назад +18

    i can't wait for Matthias and Flynn to become slightly more overt in game, and despite setting it up from pre-BFA/legion, and people get super mad about "LGBT-pandaren"

    • @hyukin56ace50
      @hyukin56ace50 4 года назад +1

      Vanessa they are not gay

    • @icarusstudio6960
      @icarusstudio6960 4 года назад +7

      @@hyukin56ace50 erm.... I don't know how to tell you this.... maybe you should read shadows rising

    • @Vanessa_exe
      @Vanessa_exe 4 года назад

      I know they aren't gay. However unless blizzard makes it very, very clear, and just leaves it at "oh Flynn while the zandalari were torturing me for weeks, I couldn't stop thinking about us being together in a small winter lodge, I want to get to know you better and enjoy living together with you" people will very very easily extrapolate that into gay.
      And I'm all for that, but I know Blizz cares about Chinese and eastern European sales numbers, so they won't risk making it official. And they will never be able to say anything insinuating it is.
      As much as I love and live LGBT couples, I hate when companies do breadcrumb shit like this. "Haha see were leaving just enough to bait you, but we care about out eastern market shareholders!"

    • @Vanessa_exe
      @Vanessa_exe 4 года назад +1

      Remember Bi doesn't exist to some people, not everyone saw that tweet, and some people take his in game flirting with her as him being straight.
      I want the big gay spy ship as much as next girl but until we reach GW2 levels of gay we are nowhere to those who won't look, and hellspawn to shareholders.

  • @magstheghoul
    @magstheghoul 4 года назад +5

    Thank you for this!! I really wanted to learn more about Mathias after reading Shadow's Rising 😍

  • @adelukun
    @adelukun 4 года назад +19

    I know my devianart of shaw/flynn would shine one day
    Yass!

    • @blake6402
      @blake6402 4 года назад

      It was all about a matter of time^^

    • @cabriacousins2714
      @cabriacousins2714 4 года назад

      Now if we can just get Wrathion and Anduin...
      I will go down with this ship. This, or Anduin and Taelia.

  • @TheSoprah
    @TheSoprah 4 года назад +2

    1:58 omg I forgot that this area existed. in a newer Expansion, blizz added training dummys there. Times goes too fast man..

  • @tynao2029
    @tynao2029 4 года назад

    the Old Towns and certain wards of Stormwind are filled with awesome

  • @93iheb
    @93iheb 4 года назад +9

    Mathias and Flynn have a better love story than twilight

  • @Poppzrox
    @Poppzrox 3 года назад

    jaina's voice when she interrupted shaw before the treasury heist ,, she knew what was going to happen there XD

  • @TheLastPoulpe
    @TheLastPoulpe 4 года назад +1

    Daddy Shaw :3 I'm happy for him and Flynn

  • @kulrigalestout
    @kulrigalestout 4 года назад +5

    I loves me some ladies and am fond of their jiggly bits, and I'm not a big fan of my fellow man in that way. But if Shaw or Fairwind were to approach me from the shadows, I certainly wouldn't complain if the night ended with a dagger in the back.

    • @ratboygirl
      @ratboygirl Год назад

      i know this comment is from a few years ago but i just want to say i appreciate it especially after seeing the not-so-nice responses to the video :)

  • @notyourdaughter666
    @notyourdaughter666 Год назад +2

    i love mat and his boyfriend, they’re so cute

  • @AmberWrath
    @AmberWrath 4 года назад +3

    I just started watching the video, haven't seen much, came here for Flynn x Matthias

  • @Anftuel
    @Anftuel 3 года назад +1

    the people who are saying they should've only been good friends at the end of the novel are the same people who think subtlety rogues don't use void magic because it is only heavily implied in their description LMAO

  • @insecdroid
    @insecdroid 4 года назад

    Waited until I finished Shadows Rising to watch this. So glad I did.

  • @CheezeSailor
    @CheezeSailor 4 года назад +1

    Shaw and Flynn are a canon couple in my head.

  • @ProxyRacks
    @ProxyRacks 4 года назад +2

    Why do people keep talking about his bright alliance-ey armor? Do people still not realize rogues in WoW can literally turn invisible? It's not just regular sneaking. It was confirmed once more in the cinematic where those undead assassin try to kill Thrall/Varok, and then again very recently in the Afterlives: Maldraxxus with Draka blipping in and out of view constantly followed by the rogue stealth noise. Given that they've had abilities like Cloak of Shadows and Shadow Dance for ages now, do people have a hard time believing rogues know some shadow magic to bolster their abilities?

  • @ryle1732
    @ryle1732 4 года назад

    That thumbs up at 14:40 always kills me.

  • @tuggerjaegger2886
    @tuggerjaegger2886 4 года назад +1

    14:53 instead of a huge builder, a golden monster appears x'D i love WoW with their movies and othe games references

  • @skittlez13gurl
    @skittlez13gurl 4 года назад

    I didn’t know I needed this ✨

  • @emcrae4764
    @emcrae4764 4 года назад +10

    The ship has officially sailed. Shaw x Fairwind is what wow needs. (At least for intellectual ones)

    • @CaiRobinson
      @CaiRobinson 4 года назад

      At first I was confused by it as they are just two very different types of people. But now I'm intrigued

  • @902100101
    @902100101 3 года назад +2

    So shaw is gay for flinn? Honestly they had a great, albeit small interaction in BFA, but like the majority of BFA they didn't explore that story, interaction, whatever at all. More wacky Shaw/Flinn hijinks would have been great.

  • @Sututiv
    @Sututiv 4 года назад +2

    5:18 "Dream Brew" at the bottom right

  • @ogikay7056
    @ogikay7056 4 года назад +1

    Mathias makes rogues look cool.

  • @goldfishprime
    @goldfishprime 4 года назад +1

    Wait, the Broken Shore.... the Horde and Alliance didn't even know where they were attacking just hours beforehand? They just loaded up onto boats and were like, "Set sail!?"

    • @DrApplezman
      @DrApplezman 4 года назад

      my guess fake shaw fed them false info.

    • @goldfishprime
      @goldfishprime 4 года назад +1

      @@DrApplezman But they show Detherac ambushing Shaw and the others as they were about to withdraw, then taking on the disguise. Shaw was going to warn the fleet, "It's a trap, don't attack" but he was taken. But the fleet was already on the way, so it was like the Horde and Alliance wanted to attack something, didn't know what and they would figure it out when they got there. They didn't even need a dreadlord deceiving them, they did themselves in.

    • @prinstyrio0
      @prinstyrio0 4 года назад

      They knew it was the Burning Legion coming and it makes sense they'd wanna hit them before they got any sort of foothold, cause once they do there was a chance it'd be impossible to push them back and it's over. It's a big risk, but the other risk of not acting is letting the Burning Legion win.
      Ofcourse we do manage to recover and we as the hero does manage to turn everything, but it's more meant as a miracle and a great struggle than anything that a reassured thing after losing Broken Shore. We know as players we will win against the threat, but I'm pretty sure it's meant to appear more hopeless and that the Legion has already won, we're just slowing them down from conquering, yet we prove the opposite which is the point of our story.
      Eitherway it was a desperate attempt to halt the invasion at its core and it failed. It's the Burning Legion afterall, it's unlike any other threat that anyone has faced and it remains the biggest and greatest threat we've faced so far in terms of the critical emergency and need to act upon it before any sound strategy can be made, or if that's even possible as to us at the time the Burning Legion is infinite.

  • @giovannysilva7735
    @giovannysilva7735 4 года назад

    ty for the heads-up... I'm reading the book ;)
    As always, awesome vid m8

  • @kasesmith261
    @kasesmith261 4 года назад +1

    Loved this. Happy flynn and shaw are on their way to b a couple. Nice to see more variety in game. Csnt wait for that one book!
    Thanks for the awesome vid

  • @N3cr0S0ulja
    @N3cr0S0ulja 4 года назад

    The Shadows Rising Book is not OUT released everywhere on planet Earth Yet...
    Australia does not have the (paper copy out in stores yet).

  • @TheBrimfire
    @TheBrimfire 2 года назад

    truly a story about backstabbers

  • @Pweips
    @Pweips 4 года назад +15

    I wish blizz will continue and include more LGBTQ + story like this. It's refreshing.

  • @Andnyqv
    @Andnyqv 4 года назад +3

    What Soverreign king that was slain in his own home is Varok talking about at 16:23?

    • @baiberr
      @baiberr 4 года назад +9

      King Rastakhan of the Zandalari Trolls

    • @vindurza
      @vindurza 4 года назад +3

      Either Rastakhan, or the Original King Liane Wrynn Varian's father.

  • @sandi-zli9567
    @sandi-zli9567 4 года назад

    Stormwindzz,riotzz,streatzz,takeoutzz,freindzz,thatzz,insteadzz,headzz,deathz,treatzz,highlandzz,fun factzz,worldzz -> I like that zzz on the end,nice touch :D

  • @Scourgelorde
    @Scourgelorde 4 года назад +7

    I see Mathias and Flynn getting shipped

    • @heathmcrigsby
      @heathmcrigsby 4 года назад

      Disgusting.

    • @Scourgelorde
      @Scourgelorde 4 года назад +4

      @@heathmcrigsby homophobic in 2020? Run, they'll come for you

    • @heathmcrigsby
      @heathmcrigsby 4 года назад

      @@Scourgelorde I'm muslim, it's against my religion.

    • @Scourgelorde
      @Scourgelorde 4 года назад +7

      @@heathmcrigsby you can be religious and not homophobic. To call it disgusting and using religion as an excuse is pretty low iq

    • @oloipop
      @oloipop 4 года назад +2

      @@heathmcrigsby I am not a muslim. But i am pretty sure, that your religion is saying, to not do it on your own. Not to rate or suppress them. There is no point of the Quran that strictly says, that it is a real sin. It's says in some ways, that its disqusting. But thats not a reason to take the opinion just, because a old book tells me to.
      Why i am answering if i am sure i wont change anything?
      Well its 2020 and we all have our "flaws" (don't see beeing gay as a flaw, but some do) and we should accept everyone on this planet. I mean due to wrong pictures of people we had people like Hitler or other evil personalities in the past. Think about you action. You don't have to be gay, but to tolerate people should be a thing that everyone can do.
      PS: I am a christian and thats not a reason for me to wait for sex until marriage or be disgusted by people that aren't waiting either.

  • @cpayne3
    @cpayne3 Год назад

    Kakashi Sensei used Kamui to teleport to Azeroth

  • @allenc4731
    @allenc4731 4 года назад +5

    Finally a gay character in WoW, and imo he (and his lover Flynn) is about the most interesting character in the game at the moment. I hope they manage to make a baby in Shadowland ;)

  • @Sara-it9se
    @Sara-it9se 4 года назад +2

    The most underrated badass in wow.

  • @nathancarpathia9591
    @nathancarpathia9591 4 года назад +1

    Wholesome AF

  • @toxicgamer1805
    @toxicgamer1805 3 года назад +1

    everyone thinks pelagos was the first gay character in
    wow, but it was actually Matthias Shaw

    • @shaunaann3890
      @shaunaann3890 3 года назад

      i think pelagos is the first trans character in wow

  • @saffronic3026
    @saffronic3026 4 года назад +2

    Seeing how Valeera was left in the dust, maybe her and Feathermoon can get together, of course romance is secondary to a good story

  • @seancooley3839
    @seancooley3839 4 года назад +1

    Can you do a video on the death stalkers?

  • @C4NIVORE9273
    @C4NIVORE9273 4 года назад +4

    I feel like if the people who are against the idea of the pairing would just take the time to listen and to watch this video they would understand how amazing the writing is for these two it feels natural as it should i hate when Entertainment shoe horns in LGBTQ characters to check a box off the list, (if you dont know what i mean watch pretty much any Netflix original) this is definitely not that and it is a shining example of how character development should be done. I just hope they give Taelia and Anduin the same treatment I want to see a ceremony at the end of this next expansion or at the begining of the next (sort of that Velen moment at the end of legion) Anduin knows he needs to leave a bloodline and who better for a potential wife...

  • @zorigoobatjil2246
    @zorigoobatjil2246 4 года назад

    Finally thank you.

  • @Yomom12388
    @Yomom12388 3 года назад

    Oh Nobbel, they’re definitely gonna be sharing some tails with each other. 👌🏼