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You know something after looking back at your video. A real time traveler who knew history, would have used bulletin boards of the late 80's and early 90's to search the so called hardware. In 2000, almost ALL BBS were gone with only Internet in place. And not only that if he really was from 2036 he had advance knowledge in many fields, including lotteries. You see, you can't really travel back in time when banks and governments at one point removes old denomination of money (Old bills) and it would leave only one option to carry large amounts of gold (coins) in their pockets. To avoid this situation, if you know in advance the lotteriy stats and numbers, when you go back in time you only need to pop at a certain point where you could win an inbetween jackpot without attracting the attention of autorities. And when in certain countries you can easily win up to 10 million of dollars without attracting attention, with that money you can do anything. Not only, the choice of the specific model of computer sound off, why use this specific model when the easy way would have been to use a computer that used embedded DOS that came from the 80's. Now if you look at the hardware he used to travel in time, the size of that thing would prompt any travelers to have spare parts to rebuild the unit twice. And in his story, he doesn't mention the power source used for his device. In reality, this John Titor was more someone that wanted attention in 2000 with a almost beliveable story. A real time traveler would have come back in time better prepared, and one other thing. If you travel in time and you jump back in time, with such a short jump, every specific point in time of advance knowlwdge would have been spot on and could be verified, and any real time traveler would have reach the proper autorities and given them one event that could be changed, like the space plane heatshield problem. NOw that one probably came from the fact that a few times NASA had some issues with the heatshield of the space shuttle but never cause major issues, A real time traveler would have given the information that the full crew of one orbital flight would all die in a specific accident. And not only that in 2000, we were closer to the 2001 event with the WTC and he did not mention this. And I don't think anyone that would time travel on such short jump back in time would come from an other parallel time line. So on this one I have to call this story came from an early version of Trolling. Because a real time traveler, would have the tools, the backup hardware & parts and the money in pocket to cover time period he's visiting and the knowledge to perform one good action to save lives. Well that's what I would do if I were traveling in time. And in the case of this John Titor, he sounds more like someone that had no knowledge of tech, noo knowlwedge of aerospace industies and no knowloedge if the PC industries of the era he came to be known. and with all the events that happened in the last 20 years he gave absolutly nothing to prove he was from the future. And also the device he shows pictures and drawings with limited edited text info on drawings. That device looks a lot like a portable short wave radio from the late 70's, army surplus repainted, we never what is at the end of the spring heavy duty cable, that looks like a mic/headphone cable.
It's always fun when people know how time travel [would] really work(s) Here's what I found strange...You correct the lovely lady's "erbs" to "herbs" because it's spelled with an "aitch" instead of a "haitch" Why?
If anyone has every heard of or seen the anime Steins Gate. The story of john titor and the ibm 5100 is actually an integral part of the story! Truly something crazy!!!!
@@shattered0717 This visual novel used the real world hoax or whatever that was. It is heavily referenced in it. The animation is an adaptation of this interactive visual novel, but it misses some details. You can see people plays here in YT.
Loved the creativity and heart of the show. Haven't seen season 2 yet, but the 1st one is very self-contained and concise imo. And maybe best of all, it made me think.
We've got lab members here now we just need to find the Steins Gate world line. How? I'm not exactly sure but I believe getting hold of Titor would likely prove to be quite helpful. I'm still working the DMail system, haven't gotten any results yet but I feel close, and please be sure to let me know if any contact with Titor is established. Well fellow lab members, that will be all for now. El Psy Kongroo
I always liked how Titor explained getting around the grandfather paradox, that every time he jumps, he jumps into a specific time of a different dimension. When asked what good that would do, he said that the same would be happening in the vast majority of other dimensions, he would be doing the same. So even if he wasn't doing missions for his own dimension, a different version of him would. Kinda clever.
That's the same excuse Crichton used in Timeline to plaster over the plothole in his time travel mechanism, too. "I didn't figure it out, but someone else surely did, so ta-da it works!"
Then he's SLIDING, as apposed to time travel. What people seem to forget is that the Earth, Sun, and Milky Way are constantly moving. If you wanted to go back to 1975, you also have to know where it is in conjunction to the space where you are at, in the first place. You literally can't stay on one connected dimension and move back and forth. You must move through all 4 dimensions simultaneously. This is not multiverse theory. Granted if you talk about multiverses, then maybe there's more than one version of Earth along a different time line right beneath you, but more than likely the impact to the destination universe to have Earth in the same spot, at a different time, implies some gravitational catastrophic event, either in our timeline or the destination. It is highly likely the 5100 wouldn't exist or it's just a dust planet. Let's say his time machine can go back in time to 1975 and be precise. He would need to know the coordinates in relationship to the whole universe. Given this ability, why does it matter where he starts and stops, or what car he is in? He could transport to any location on Earth at any time, and not bother negotiating with a person for a 5100. I would have just traveled to the end of the assembly line and pickup a box and be out of there. Brand spanking new. Titor is just too dramatic, looking for attention. Experiment: Graph an XY coordinate on Earth, trace it for a day, or a year. Where does that point exist in relationship to time and the Sun? It's a lot like a Spirograph, but in three dimensions. At no point in time is it possible for the XY coordinate going to cross itself. It will literally be 1000 miles away in a matter of minutes or seconds.
@@danilko1 Perhaps the time travel mechanism entagles itself with a sufficiently large mass nearby at the point of departure. It would then be anchored in the same relative position to that mass until it reappears, without offering the possibility of functioning as a teleporter able to reach any arbitrary point in space.
Nah. Dog know he wasn't talking to her... That's why she was uneasy... There were no other sentient beings in the room. Dog "okay, just take it easy, relax... Stop talking to the inanimate object...."
@@gailwinds We have three cats and they all have a weird freak-out mode when they see/hear me talking on the phone. I had to shut myself in the bathroom one time cuz I thought Kitty was going to go for my throat. He has jumped on my back before, when I was on the phone. 😂 Very weird.
You know when someone on the street just sits and looks at you? Imagine they are from the future looking at you because in som way you are important to them or the world in their timeline. Shit like this makes me think for hours...
I love the mythology about John Titor and how deeply it's tried into the Steins;gate visual novel. But only 1/4 of Steins;Gate is based on it (the important parts involving Suzuha) but the underlying Many-Worlds interpretation used by Titor plays a role throughout the entire Science Adventure series. Now, many things do have an answer. - How did Titor know about the mainframe emulator? It's not a far fetched guess, but most likely ANY IBM engineer that worked on it, or their next-of-kin might have known about it. I'm sure there was more than one person responsible for the 5100, and it's not a coincidence that someone would use their pet-project in a story. That's the same reason why a lot of novels use their own hometowns in novels. - The photos look like stage props. All of them. There is one you didn't use which involved the "bending light" which is one of the easier to disprove ones with a fibre optic cable. I'll give whoever came up with kudos for going that extra mile to make it look like a real thing, but the lack of any photos showing it operating is enough proof that it can't be real. - Various other details are not hard-and-fast coincidences. Heating the space plane, civil wars, etc. You don't need a crystal ball to predict certain things happening if you don't give it a specific date. The MWI theory itself, and as used in Steins;Gate, gives an easy-out for divergences. You can't just take the winning lotto numbers, go back a day in time and win, because a divergence doesn't guarantee RNG will be the same. You'd be better off trying to invest in an index fund in 1975 and create a trust to never change that investment until it's time to cash out.
@@pointlessrandom7619 a visual novel / anime series based around time travel and the Many Worlds Interpretation theory. Titor is explicitly referenced and is a central figure in the story. It is fantastic.
I very clearly remember reading about john titor, going through those forms. expecting him to fade into obscurity, and wondering "will I remember this in years" ... years later, people keep mentioning it to me, and I tell them I watched it unfold live. I regret not participating and asking questions leaving a trace of myself in this whole story.
Same. I came in late but watched the end and was immediately intrigued. I downloaded all of his comments and have them to this day. What’s really interesting is if you don’t focus on dates, the events he described are starting to become more and more likely to unfold as the years go by. The John tidor story is my favorite mystery of all time.
Thanks for picking up this story, I hadn't read much on it since 2006-ish but was quite an interesting Q&A event. Text forums and new internet had a magnetic appeal, I could see why anyone from the future would want to go to that era. As a gamer, there was a real sense of community. These days it's selfies and "here's a picture of my lunch", everyone seems to be online and completely disengaged from one another. There's a lot of great things today, most of which is better than the past, but there is that element many of us wish would've carried forward.
Aegelis, what a great comment. Could not agree more, and have thought the same thing countless times over the years. I'd gladly give up some of the upgrades for the camaraderie and fun of yesteryears (not to mention how much safer computer OS were back then). Shoot, plenty of Americans have no idea how much has been blocked or scrubbed away from us, even with a VPN. But I digress; thanks for the awesome post!
Interesting thought. Indeed, its like a huge hive mind most are connected to and sucks their brains out and makes them mindless drones that do nothing more than parroting whatever they're fed. I rarely see people advancing their thought using resources they're given. It's like they just having mash on their plate and satisfied with it.
You can laugh, but in 1985, I worked in an office that relied on a Hewlett-Packard like this for scientific computing. It had a tiny screen and a micro tape drive. Original Price: $19,000. So in 1980, you could buy a microcomputer, or a BMW 3-Series sedan.
I remember that HP model. It was the first microcomputer that could mathematically draw a circle on the display. Bleeding edge at the time, now my cell phone can blow its doors in.
The 5100 and 5110 were exceptional machines for their time. I remember my Dad taking me to the IBM field office in 1975 when they, the 5100, was released. It was a demo machine and I got to play the football game when I went with him. Fast forward to late 1979 early 1980 I was trained on servicing these machines as an IBM Field Engineer. Compared to the older card machines, 360 based, System 3's I was also trained on, the 5100 platform was a dream to work on even with all the tech crammed into a small space. On a side note we were informed of the HAL 9000 from the movie 2001 Space Odyssey in my later training. HAL is IBM moved one letter forward H-I A-B L-M AND IBM came out with a System 9000 in the mid 1980's when I was trained on the System 9000.
And for those who don't know, Microsoft copied this cryptic shape-shifting naming scheme when they developed their Windows NT server operating system, which was the first 32-bit Windows OS. Windows NT, or WNT, is a one-letter-forward mapping (or "Caesar cipher") for VMS. VMS was an older mainframe OS marketed by Digital Equipment Corporation, and both of these operatinv systems were developed by the same guy, David Cutler. Clearly, Microsoft was in on the whole I-B-M and H-A-L cheeky thing. What is weirder is that it wasn't just some internal project name, they actually concocted a full commercial product name and spent many millions on a marketing campaign promoting "Windows NT" which they claimed stood for "Windows New Technology". Now you know the truth.
I haven't heard about the 5100 for years. I used one extensively in 1979 to control materials handling equipment. I was an IBM senior engineer at the time.
@Sailor Kane, would you mind contacting me by email, please? It's under the About section of my channel page. I would like to talk to you about your experience with the 5100
My middle school in Pennsylvania had a 5100. We had zero idea what to do with it, and almost nobody knew APL. I tried learning it and was just lost. Hilarious machine though. It looked expensive, but $19K, that was a fortune at that time.
@@kurtisschwartz9870 Technically, the anime is adapted from a Visual Novel of the same name. It's not an original anime series. It's an adaptation & a damn good one too.
I remember when all this John Titor stuff was 'live' and I was in on it, real time....and there was a real sense of 'this guy is the real deal' feeling.....just something about the straight up answers to questions and it felt like this guy wasnt trying to hide anything.....a couple of the pictures were pretty interesting and that was before there was a lot of photochop software out there and the chops were pretty easy to tell back then. I completely agree that there are divergent and alternate timelines and that he was from one that was slightly different than ours.....
totally agree with you... the one image with the machine active and in travel with the red light beam being bent outside the window of the car was the most impressive and hard to fake.
@@kevinpittman2517 is that pic in this video? I can't seem to find it... do you have a timestamp or round about time that appears if it's in the video?
@@kevinpittman2517 I too would like to see said picture. I've been on the net since 1998 but never stumbled upon John titor till he had already came and went. I read the forum posts around the early 2000s with pictures of his time machine but not of what you speak. Ok I looked up John titor red beam and I see it. That is impressive! What is he holding in his right hand that looks like a cigar?
Fiber optic cable terminating in his hand at the "laser pointer" with a red light source outside of view behind the car door? That amount of gravity would have devastating effects on any organic matter in proximity.
My Dad worked for IBM as a Systems Engineer, and he brought a 5100 home for a whole week. It was quite an impressive experience and our first "home computer" (for a week). What a luggable powerful advancement for its day. Thanks for this video.
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I am so glad to see this video. I had lusted after that IBM 5100 personal computer ever since I saw it advertised on TV in 1975. I had begun to doubt my own memory. I used to teach computer science and computer history. I told my classes that the so called first generation of personal micro computers wasn't the first at all. It wasn't the Apple II, the Radio Shack TRS-80 or the Commodore PET. I told them there had been an IBM personal computer earlier that had a tape drive, a BASIC interpreter and an APL interpreter. But I never had any evidence that such a machine ever existed. I would have thought that it was a hallucination except that I actually coded for a while in APL. I made a proposal to my boss to create our whole internal MIS system in APL. I loved that language. I might have convinced him until one day there was a bug and an error message was printed out. APL doesn't used standard English and Roman characters. My boss looked at it and said -"What is this Martian"? The young girls who would have run my APL system probably would have screamed. Very shortly thereafter I acquired a Altair. The Altair was very primitive while the IBM 5100 was like a Science Fiction device. The next year I got a Commodore PET and - as they say - the rest is history. This is the first reference to that machine I've seen anywhere since I saw it on TV in 1975. The Altair I got free and the PET cost $800. The IBM TV ad ended with the guy holding it out toward the viewer and saying something like " Shake hand with he IBM Personal Computer." He didn't mention how heavy it was.
I think he was a originally unsuccessful fan fic writer and worked selling the units as a door to door salesman. Many sales man became familiar with their products by taking apart and putting together the product. Which could explain how they had such in depth knowledge about a seemingly hush hush feature of a product.
I remember this particular line of argument at the time as well. -Perfectly reasonable conclusion. But if you read through the 4 month summary of his chat logs, that's not the type of person you find. What he describes is us, but 10 years earlier. As if the Avian Bird Flu of 2009 was called-off.
12:15 There's also a third option, he analyzed that computers operating system for whatever reason and found the emulator (like how people find unused content by digging into video games today.)
I owned the IBM 5100 PC computer in 1985. I had the external tape machine with it. A friend and myself bought it out of the newspaper for $250 and thought we could do something fun with it. It had accounting software and some kind of space game with it. We kinda got it to work but it was really difficult to use as far as home use. I wanted to keep it with my PC collection with the TRS 80 and Sinclair but the wife decided I needed to get rid of it. Little did I know that the parts might be needed to save the world in the future. Just my luck!
I'm a freelance computer engineer and I always remember my 3rd grade teacher telling me the ibm 5100 was a concept 15 years ahead of it's time that was in 2005
I have always thought, and occasionally shared with others, that UFOs were simply humans from the future. This video was the first time I heard/heard of someone else suggesting that.
I've been saying these things since the late 90's, after reading "Chariots of the Gods" as a teenager. You're not the only one .... Makes more sense than not, when you really think about it.
Its actually a very common idea... just like the one that matches the 'greys' as possessing very logical adaptations to survive to long-term space habitation.
This idea dovetails perfectly with Carl sagan's calculation that life absolutely does exist elsewhere in the universe, but it's just too damn far away for us to ever ever see.
I just stumbled across this video, and I'm paused at exactly 10:40 in. My Dad is actually a (now retired) IBM Global Project Engineer. He started at IBM in the early 70s and didn't retire until 2013. My mom also was an IBM engineer starting in the early 70s but she stopped working there in 1982. If anyone wants me to talk to my dad about this I'm more than happy to...
That’s pretty amazing. I guess you could ask him how many people knew about that hidden feature? This would help us determine if Titor was just a regular guy who heard about it on the grapevine, or not… Thank you!
@@RetroRecipes my Dad just got back to me, I guess he's still in a email listserv with IBM retirees worldwide, so he shared the link to your video. There's quite a few people in the group that worked on this from the earliest stages of pre-development. If you're interested let me know how to get in contact with you and I'll connect you with my Dad. He's definitely seen some shit as far as IBM goes...
@@MsEsquire83 Thanks so much! I got your email and replied to you both. I'm so excited to hear your dad's tales. He sounds like an amazing man. Cheers!
This will definitely be interesting if the story is true about a small modification to access what the time traveler was talking about. Seen jumper wires on some old computers before most programs could alter what the jumper wires did.
@@RetroRecipes Well it seems like we might get a new video from you now on this topic once more. Can't wait to hear all the stuff about how the contact went if it wasn't a hoax.
OMG, completely forgot about this from the early 2000s. They used to discuss it a lot on the late night radio show Coast to Coast back then. There were several bids on a 5100 on e-bay in the thousands of dollars.
I've been researching the John Titor story for close to 20 years now. what a lot of people don't know about the story is that if you look up the purported Time machine that he used whether the story is true or not, that technology is actually patented and you can look up the actual US patent for that exact technology. the person who created the patent apparently was no longer proceeding with the patent application I think as of last year or earlier this year but nonetheless there was a design made exactly in line that is identical to the technology in the John Titor story.
there are good talks in Coast to Coast AM about Titor, and there are atleast 2 phone calls in podcasts, as i rememeber that the other one was different (wrong?) Titor,
The entire Titor matter is fascinating. I read elsewhere that a "John Titor" in Florida was located...at the age a young time traveler from the "storyline" ought to be. I've read the (secret) ability of the 5100 was, allegedly, only known to half a dozen people - until Titor discussed it on the internet. I personally have reasons for disbelieving functional, successful time travel. However, I also currently concede I've no alternate explanation which properly covers all the details involved. (I miss Art Bell!)
John didn't talk about the Rona afaik, which I think any time in the near future will either know about the corona thing as being a really weird time in their past, or the start of the neverending virus/variants struggle. I couldn't imagine any actual Time traveller not knowing at least corona virus being such a big impact on the world for years (or even decades,we still have no end in sight as or December 2021)
@@undinism69 I would assume it’s because any interaction with the past creates branching events and unpredictable alternate “timelines”. I don’t think time travel in the single-line Terminator sense is possible at all. However, the idea that there are infinite alternate realities (I guess this is “many worlds theory”) that are all identical makes sense to me. And when communicating between them or moving from one to another, there’s no reason you’d have to reach the same time you are from in your own reality. You could go into 1980 or 1880 or any point that would appear as your own “past”, though it’s really just the present in a parallel identical universe that is simply “running late” as it were. Anyway, even the smallest of changes could have ripple effects. John could have caused COVID-19 lmao
@Dennis Anderson there is zero chance that anyone named 'John Titor' alive today (or anytime since 2000) in Florida or anywhere else would be our purported time traveler, because John was so highly protective against his parents being outed and grilled by government agents. 'Titor' was just a pseudonym.
Love how a computer made 50 years ago or so is a key component to time travel but literally NOTHING we have nowadays is related to time in anyway possible except for touchscreen smart watches
The IBM 5100 wasn't any kind of component necessary to time travel, it's retrieval from 1975 was simply the job that Titor was tasked with because it was needed for other purposes, unspecified in any detail except for the datetime expiration that was so well described in this video.
“One of the major problems encountered in time travel is not that of becoming your own father or mother.... The major problem is simply one of grammar, and the main work to consult in this matter is Dr. Dan Streetmentioner's Time Traveler's Handbook of 1001 Tense Formations." Douglas Adams
Thank you for reminding me about John Titor. I was in high school in 2000 when John Titor started making waves and for a little while I was obsessed with this story.
Needing an IBM 5100 to debug a Unix-related problem doesn't make a lot of sense; Sure, the 5100's microcode could emulate the 360 ISA. But these mainframes were batch processors - using things like OS/360 to get the jobs done. Not used interactively through a command prompt. Not at all related to Unix, which began on a PDP-7 in 1971 and was released into the wild years later. It's a cool story, and the patent on the time machine is a very fascinating read (if you can understand the theoretical pseudo physics!). My heart goes out to everyone who were on the forums watching this unfold!
Damn. That's a name I hadn't heard in a long time. Actually an old acquaintance first told me about John Titor a few years after he apparently went back to the future. She was on the old message boards and was even able to participate in the discussions at the time. Ultimately true or not, it was a pretty fascinating story.
yea same here i was blown away i remember when he said something and i paraphrase something like would u believe me if i told u that tomorrow 150thousand people will be killed in a tsnuami ? then it actually happened a few yrs later.
@@kevinpittman2517 Yeah because plausible deniability and stupid people that want to believe doesn't make for good bed fellows... SMH, you might as well believe in nostradamus.
I wasn't, there were always inconsistencies in his tall tales; for example, "I'm here to pick up an IBM 5100." "You're free to join me, I'm going back to 1975 and then to 2036." Uh, why? Didn't you come HERE to pick up the 5100, why do you need to go to 1975? Meeting your parents? When, before or after you got the machine? And why didn't you say you were ON YOUR WAY to 1975 to get the 5100 earlier, rather than claim, "You're HERE to pick up an IBM 5100." There are plenty of other inconsistencies like that, including the "not knowing what UFOs are", but suspecting they're humans from the future, despite having inventing time travel, one would assume that would mean you know what to look for, what particles are emitted, in order to detect/confirm time travel. So they should be able to confirm that the UFOs at least use time travel, but no, they don't know. Then there's the problem with him just spending months with his parents in 2000; when he's from a time that is post-nuclear war; first of all, the recovery from a nuclear war is awfully quick, but wouldn't the military have picked someone who was extremely duty minded and was ordered not to waste time and interact with anyone beyond the absolute necessary? After all; how high is the temptation to stay in 1975 when you're living in a post-nuclear war hellhole, especially since you know which companies are going to be big and with a few proper stocks to buy you become rich in no time.
I was a Customer Engineer working for IBM back in the 70’s and I serviced the 5100 family of computers. I have no idea whether the hidden ability to recognize older languages is true fact or not but it very well could be true.
If i'm not mistaken, It just changed the emulation in its program decoder. So instead of looking for input in basic, it changed it to emulate the older mainframe cpu. Easily done in any computer of we wished. Since any more modern cpu can run code to emulate a less sophisticated cpu; often with no hit on performance. Was often used to make sure new code would accurately replace old, centralized mainframes.
Um... Think more tethering... Vital communication being set up / Established You would seek to quickly transfer mass data on a level "they" (You are passing ) Could Use. You could manufacture readable data on ample (at time) systems. The real ? Is there a past cap... A point unable to return... Or is future Attempting to establish backwards the structure to further go back OR prepare for something else...
@@bryede What if the computer was Alien and some nerd at area 51 changed the code to speak English and hid the Alien code? To us its a computer to the nerds it worked a time machine on a space craft.
The aspect where "Titor" says that he started seeing divergences in the timeline, football games having different outcomes and so on, sounds a lot a like thing seen in the show "7 Days" the science fiction show where a secret gov't project, using an alien fuel source and technology based on alien tech, sends a "Chrononaut" back in time within a 7 day limit to correct things or stop events from happening.
@@BertGrink Yeah it was pretty cool. They never showed it but apparently anytime the main character went back in time the past version of him would disappear or something. ruclips.net/video/R-HERDOX9-s/видео.html
@@Heymrk oh man UPN. I remember when we first didn't get that channel on our cable so i had to tune it in on my old black and white tv through the UHF dial
if things work as he stated, our future and his are different, if you seen back to the future, his timeline isnt ours (or if you need a more simple version of this, DBZ Trunks and his time machine)
@@TheRealKarmaquarius Yes, but major events still happen, just not in line with the dates from his timeline. We are currently looking at a very realistic civil war in just about every European and Western country. A world war would not be far behind that.
@@taoist32 We are no where close to a civil war. Times in the western world have been far worse than they are now and we all made through it. This is how I know everyone here is either very young or has never picked up a history book. Anyone who grew up in the 1970s would know things have been WAY worse.
My first computer for my business was an IBM 5110. Used Cost = $9,995.00 with 8" floppy drives (no hard disks) and a whopping 16K of memory. Ran Basic. We got a lot out of that box and eventually added a 10 MB hard drive ($9,000). It worked great until we moved to a WANG mini computer -- ahhhh the memories.
It is fascinating that when Retro Recipes contacted IBM to comment for this video they refused to comment. Now if this story of John Titor truly is Fiction or made-up in the mind of some Computer Scientists' Fantasy or imagination, IBM would have no problem revealing in a video to the public that this is not true but rather Fiction.
Why is it fascinating? Why would a company care about some rando they have never heard of? It isn't fascinating it should be expected unless you want to believe and then you should realize that and take a step back.
Also imagine a company making a statement to every single RUclips channel to every conspiracy theory, accusation etc. on them. Would the channels at least pay them for their time accordingly/satisfactorily?
It's an interesting story for sure. I was most interested in the driving part, as it seemed to parallel something that happened to myself and my family in 2016. We were driving to a holiday home 500kms away, at night, and it seemed to be taking a long time to get there. We thought we may be lost, so we pulled over in a small town opposite an IGA Supermarket, which was still open. I asked some locals if we were close to our destination, and they said yes, it's 30kms further down the road. We discussed returning in the morning to do our shopping at the IGA. The next morning, we drove back to that town, and the IGA was gone. I was told it had not been there for several years. Four of us in the car had seen it, the lights were on, and there were people inside. We arrived over an hour late that night and cannot account for the missing time.
@@AlwaysPim In the past perhaps on my own, but never like this with four people. We still talk about it and have even contacted the supermarket chain to confirm there used to be one in town. What's even stranger is that when I go back on google Earth's timeline view, you can see that there was an IGA in that town, on that street, but it's on the opposite side of the road, so it makes even less sense. If I could look back and see it exactly where we saw it, that would follow some sort of time slip. It's an odd one for sure.
Interesting story, I have heard of it happening before. My friend also once told me his parents were going to town to bank some money but knew they would arrive too late but planed to stay the night there. But when they arrived they were nearly an hour earlier than they should have got there.
@@jameschurchill8710 perhaps it was some kind of "time reflection" (idk, maybe like a bubble that distorted things around twice, so other side of road but not backwards lettering), hence the other side of the road. Really fascinating story! What town was this?
If it were true, and time travel is closer to us, then we think... I would want to go back in time to hug my mom and tell her how much I love her before she died.
When I retired from the Army a few years ago I found out the Defence finance and accounting system still uses msdos. The time traveler just wanted to get paid.
The john titor story is legit. I remember when it was goin on and was reading the forums where he was posting. His answers to the science and mechanics of time travel were too advanced to be a hoax.
I totally believe it was legitimate also. I understand some of the physics behind time travel and what he stated in the forums was spot on to my studies. Mathematically, time travel is not only possible, it is achievable. Also speed of light travel has nothing to do with time travel and is not even synonymous. It is true that speed through space dilates time but going back and forth in time really has nothing to do with speed of light but variations of Electromagnetic fields and gravity displacement
This was by far one of the most fascinating and entertaining videos I've seen on this or any other channel. I've never heard of John Titor, sadly, or of his time travelling excursions before having seen this video; but it's a fantastic story regardless of whether it's true or not. I really enjoyed how you presented your own take on the story while letting the viewer make up their own mind on the subject matter. I loved PuppyFractic's use of the whistle; she's getting really good at it! But how can she get even better if you keep taking the whistle away from her...? 🤭 I also loved the "shameless plug" of your novel The Chrononaut; that book deserves so many accolades as it's a fantastic concept and story. 🙂 By the way, that was a very clever use of your appearance in Independence Day: Resurgence; it added to the subject matter and narrative in a really awesome way. 🙂 I cannot stress this enough; this channel is headed for unparalleled success with videos like these, and will continue to inform and entertain future generations to come. Have a good one, Christian, and take care. 😊
Website called abovetopsecret was investigating john titor when it was all playing out. Idk if the discussions or even the website still exist as I haven’t been there in years.
@@RetroRecipes The top comment on a video that came out today, about time travel, is from 2 weeks ago. I think there's something you're not telling us.
There was a guy posting on the timetravelinstitute website (now defunct), about 15 years ago, who claimed to be from 2236, which would be 200 years after Titor's time, and he claimed that he had read books as a young person about Titor's projects, and that they were military projects following some sort of EMF pulse war or something like that. He further claimed that the technology used by Titor was still being taught in 2236, but had been greatly improved upon by then. I can't remember all the details, a lot of the technical details went over my head, but I do remember he called their current scientific model for time travel, the "Taurus model", but I can't remember what in the world that was. And something about limited range, accuracy and reliability, and other stuff I can't remember. But he posted quite a lot of stuff, and answered a lot of questions, which were usually taken as incorrect science. Anyway, he did post several photos, I think I still have a couple of them. One picture was him and a colleague or partner, with a weird device on a pole that he was holding, and another device in his hand. Don't remember what he said it was. I may still have that photo somewhere, I'll check. He said they collected data for scientific knowledge only. He appeared on the forum off and on for a few years, then completely went away around ten years ago I think. Never heard from him again, but, I do still have his photos somewhere that he emailed to me, and several other people on the forum. He also offered detailed explanations of how it all works, but I don't have those emails anymore. I didn't understand any of it anyway.
The IBM 5100 changed my life in 1977. My dad had connections and got to borrow one for a couple of weeks. It probably altered my life's course. I now live in an alternate timeline.
@John Smith, would you mind contacting me by email, please? It's under the About section of my channel page. I would like to talk to you about your experience with the 5100.
It is true. Titor initiated the retro computer nostalgia repair movement so the computer he ACTUALLY went back in time to use would be repaired, recapped, and ready for debugging when he arrives in the actual time needed.
Yes, the dates may be inaccurate as he came from another time loop, which means we will still have civil and nuclear war just at a different date. And that date gets closer and closer. I had a vision last summer while backpacking with friends. I’m not religious, psychic, or otherwise involved with paranormal activities. In this vision, which occurred in the middle of the night, I was transported to the year 2040. I was still at the campsite, but my friends were gone and what remained look like devastation in the environment. Someone came upon me with his dog, and I asked for help. He said that this was the year 2040 after the Great War took place in 2030. I wanted to find my family and friends, but he said most people perished between 2025 and 2030 due to the vaccination global program, and the Great War between all governments happened right after that leaving only small pockets of survivors in every country. The vision continues, but this is the gist of it. It freaked me out because this vision was sudden and clear. I don’t feel like I imagined it. Hopefully, it doesn’t happen, but when people like myself who don’t believe start getting visions I tend to pay attention.
@@taoist32 holy cow! You've got my attention! Have you been to the web page she has attached and read everything he said about the civil war? I personally believe that you're on to something. Just like a different dimension may have a war set for different years, it may also take place with different scenarios, while the basic premise remains the same. Man...I wish I could pick your brain to know more details about what you saw in your vision. I'm not one to live in fear, and I won't, but I've always lived by the motto: "prepare for the worst, hope for the best". I also agree with listening to gut feelings, instincts, or unusual dreams/visions that come to us like the way you just explained. Heck, I'm definitely religious and I believe that things like this are a gift. God gave us common sense to be able to figure out if something is just a dream that our imagination just came up with or if it's a vision. It's two very different things. I'm not one to go around believing everyone or everything, but if you can put two and two together by looking at the facts...things start clicking. It's only unbelievable to the ones that refuse to entertain the possibility AND refuse to dig into the information that's all around them.
@@darlingdeb7010 To answer your first question, I have not looked up anything about the civil war. As for the vision, yes there are more details. Most governments, including the US, are destroyed. However, the Chinese army takes residence and are hunting down our small pocket communities. I saw small, nomadic groups with small tents and cabins along with gardens. Most of the environment looked like desert. If you have watched any dystopian movies notice that several have desert environments. That’s pretty much what I remember. And, by the way, this vision took place in June before the vaccine was ready to go.
@@taoist32 so in your vision, was it the vaccine that took people out or was it people rebelling against a forced vaccination, or even people upset that not everyone would get the vaccine that started the war? What was your gut feeling on the cause and (for the sake of this conversation, arguing that this vision comes true or something similar to it - which could happen) what do you think we should do to either prepare for it or protect ourselves from it? The guy in the video, on that website, said that we would be much safer living in small towns (not suburbs) far away from any major cities, since that's where Russia will target their nukes. Yours is a very different scenario though. Yours, if I'm reading correctly, is bio warfare. Correct?
@@iceman198021 The EMP didn't wipe out computer factories. So they can build new computers. But they can't build old computers as the code was lost when the EMP wiped the code from the 5100s.
Wow! A blast from my past!! I used to program on a IBM 5100 when I worked for IBM in 1981. I remember APL with it’s Quads and other symbols. Thanks for the memories!!
Milton, would you mind contacting me by email, please? It's under the About section of my channel page. I would like to talk to you about your experience with the 5100 if you don't mind.
I used to work for IBM General Systems Division in Phoenix installing these machines. This whole story is a really well done mix of buzzwords, BS, and deception. The 'secret feature', I.e., the IBM 360 emulator ' which IBM refused to comment on' was not exactly secret--it was the basis for the whole machine architecture. IBM wrote at least 2 technical papers on it. The BASIC and APL languages on the 5100 were lifted straight off IBMs mainframes to avoid the cost of developing new ones. The line 'it can read all the legacy language's is more vague deception-- it can read BASIC and APL--both of which are 'legacy language's' but nothing else. I would suggest that watchers take this video as a good 'mystery' story, but that's all.
@@K3Flyguy Thank you very much! I hope I didn't sound too critical of the 'author' of all of this stuff--he knows at least something about the 5100, or he wouldn't be able to fabricate such a good story.
What is there so difficult to understand about time travel.it happened by accident with the phillidelphia experiment.watch al beliek time travel tech info.start watching second half of video first.
For everyone that keeps talking about how the Space Force logo was inspired by the Star Trek logo; yes, yes it was. In turn the Star Trek logo was inspired by the NASA logo. So hush already.
In 1995 my aunt (one of three sisters) quipped "You know, there probably are time travellers but they've all been warned to stay away from the 20th century!". My aunt and my Mum being the way they are, this is the sort of thing they would think/say all the time.....
I never heard any of this until just now. I live in Rochester Minnesota and was a computer tech at the IBM complex. My dad was a computer programmer and worked there at the time the 5100 was built and had a part in that machine. Weird.
That story has always perplexed me because of the fact he knew about it’s secret function. No one outside of IBM knew it could do that so kinda hard to fabricate.
Yeah there is no way that it was only know to IBM employees, they would have told people but it only becomes relevant when people like you try to connect the dots for the conmen.
If somehow I ever go back into the past to the 2000s, I wanna hijack titors thread and be like "yo John, kinda weird how you've not mentioned 9/11/2001 yet"
Well... it turns out there was an Air France hijack in the mid '90s that wanted to slam the aircraft into the Eiffel Tower, so the idea was already floating around (Look here: en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Air_France_Flight_8969). So I see Tito's omission about the 9-11 as a twofold possibility: in THAT future the attacks didn't happen due to the USA learning from the Air France Flight 8969 experience, or the attacks happened but they started a series of events that were deemed as necessary for the country. For example, without the Pearl Harbor attack, American people wouldn't have had a catalyst to enter WWII
I guess We'll see in 16 years. I watched Steins Gate some time ago and it was first time I had heard of this John Titor thing. Deep inside I want to believe, but I guess common sense takes victory here. Or does it 🤔
Was about to post the same comment, Steins Gate was the first time i heard of this aswell, but ive heard refrences in some other show over the years since.
There's no such thing as "common sense" when it comes to quantum physics, physics, theories and etc... Giodanno Bruno was regarded as a heretic and madman for theorizing that the Sun didn't revolve around the Earth.
Titor was here in 2000. Wrong. Art or George N which I am pretty sure it was G Interviewed the attorney representing Titors family. I was on the websites he was posting realtime during 2000 and 01. I spent late night hours reading through all those threads back then! Fascinating...
@@codyism666 The creators of Steins;Gate used this actual person claiming to be John Titor from the future for the basis of their story. This was around before the games or anime were ever made.
the first time I heard your theory about aliens just being some hyper futuristic humans was in a manga panel and the bit where you show a clip from one of my favorite time travel anime (steins gate) really wanted me to tell you this!
"Time travel by its very nature is discovered at all points in history simultaneously".._.Douglas Adams Ironically written for a work of fiction where time travel exist, it forms the premise for my belief that it will never exist. It does not exist in the present or past, therefore it does not exist in the future.
This person actually did an interview with art bell back in the mid nineties. You can most likely find it in the coast to coast archives. I remember listening to it live I don't remember anything about IBM because I'm not a computer guy but I do remember Commodore 64. Good luck on finding that interview.
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You know something after looking back at your video. A real time traveler who knew history, would have used bulletin boards of the late 80's and early 90's to search the so called hardware. In 2000, almost ALL BBS were gone with only Internet in place. And not only that if he really was from 2036 he had advance knowledge in many fields, including lotteries. You see, you can't really travel back in time when banks and governments at one point removes old denomination of money (Old bills) and it would leave only one option to carry large amounts of gold (coins) in their pockets. To avoid this situation, if you know in advance the lotteriy stats and numbers, when you go back in time you only need to pop at a certain point where you could win an inbetween jackpot without attracting the attention of autorities. And when in certain countries you can easily win up to 10 million of dollars without attracting attention, with that money you can do anything. Not only, the choice of the specific model of computer sound off, why use this specific model when the easy way would have been to use a computer that used embedded DOS that came from the 80's. Now if you look at the hardware he used to travel in time, the size of that thing would prompt any travelers to have spare parts to rebuild the unit twice. And in his story, he doesn't mention the power source used for his device.
In reality, this John Titor was more someone that wanted attention in 2000 with a almost beliveable story. A real time traveler would have come back in time better prepared, and one other thing. If you travel in time and you jump back in time, with such a short jump, every specific point in time of advance knowlwdge would have been spot on and could be verified, and any real time traveler would have reach the proper autorities and given them one event that could be changed, like the space plane heatshield problem.
NOw that one probably came from the fact that a few times NASA had some issues with the heatshield of the space shuttle but never cause major issues, A real time traveler would have given the information that the full crew of one orbital flight would all die in a specific accident. And not only that in 2000, we were closer to the 2001 event with the WTC and he did not mention this.
And I don't think anyone that would time travel on such short jump back in time would come from an other parallel time line. So on this one I have to call this story came from an early version of Trolling. Because a real time traveler, would have the tools, the backup hardware & parts and the money in pocket to cover time period he's visiting and the knowledge to perform one good action to save lives. Well that's what I would do if I were traveling in time. And in the case of this John Titor, he sounds more like someone that had no knowledge of tech, noo knowlwedge of aerospace industies and no knowloedge if the PC industries of the era he came to be known. and with all the events that happened in the last 20 years he gave absolutly nothing to prove he was from the future. And also the device he shows pictures and drawings with limited edited text info on drawings. That device looks a lot like a portable short wave radio from the late 70's, army surplus repainted, we never what is at the end of the spring heavy duty cable, that looks like a mic/headphone cable.
It's always fun when people know how time travel [would] really work(s)
Here's what I found strange...You correct the lovely lady's "erbs" to "herbs" because it's spelled with an "aitch" instead of a "haitch" Why?
@@kfred5860 It’s an Eddie Izard skit reference 😉
Aliens just might be Future Evolved Terrestrial Tourists and Scientists, or FETTS for short. :)
I thought this for years, an old but lesser known theory.
If anyone has every heard of or seen the anime Steins Gate. The story of john titor and the ibm 5100 is actually an integral part of the story! Truly something crazy!!!!
I watched the anime and had no idea this was a real story lol.
@@shattered0717 This visual novel used the real world hoax or whatever that was. It is heavily referenced in it. The animation is an adaptation of this interactive visual novel, but it misses some details. You can see people plays here in YT.
I only learned about John Titor from Steins;Gate - even though I had been online since 1997.
Loved the creativity and heart of the show. Haven't seen season 2 yet, but the 1st one is very self-contained and concise imo. And maybe best of all, it made me think.
I's on my list, now I moved it to the top...
Nobody will travel back to 2020, that's for sure.
It’ll be like the “13th floor” to time travelers. 😂
Someone will travel to mid 2019 to warn humanity, only to find deniers.
Unless someone already has? DUN DUNN DUNNNNNNN
@@ericnightmare2695 my uncle told me a bedtime story about a 2020 pandemic when I wanted to sleep in December 24th 2019😳😳
@@pubggamer2022 lets hear it.
"So, should I keep my Micro-wave, Green Banana mush, and D-Mail or not?"
😂😂🤣😂😂
Yes
My dad likes steins gate, and he's trying making the Microwave rn lol
No, those things cause brain farts.
No, but I'd hang on to anything before an 80386...
This is so crazy. The worst part is that we may never know how true it was considering that if it was true, our timeline is so different.
@@rossnr100thank u probs like a different timeline or something
What do we want?
TIME TRAVEL!
When do we want it?
IRRELEVANT!
lmao
Lol good one!
Or, perhaps - yesterday!
Terminator Genisys...
That was funny haha!
This is the choice of Steins Gate.
El Psy Kongroo
Ah a man of culture i see
Hello Fellow Lab member
El psy congree
And that is why i am here
We've got lab members here now we just need to find the Steins Gate world line. How? I'm not exactly sure but I believe getting hold of Titor would likely prove to be quite helpful. I'm still working the DMail system, haven't gotten any results yet but I feel close, and please be sure to let me know if any contact with Titor is established.
Well fellow lab members, that will be all for now.
El Psy Kongroo
I always liked how Titor explained getting around the grandfather paradox, that every time he jumps, he jumps into a specific time of a different dimension. When asked what good that would do, he said that the same would be happening in the vast majority of other dimensions, he would be doing the same. So even if he wasn't doing missions for his own dimension, a different version of him would. Kinda clever.
Yep, completely in line with the multiverse hypothesis.
"dimension" *World-line.
That's the same excuse Crichton used in Timeline to plaster over the plothole in his time travel mechanism, too. "I didn't figure it out, but someone else surely did, so ta-da it works!"
Then he's SLIDING, as apposed to time travel. What people seem to forget is that the Earth, Sun, and Milky Way are constantly moving. If you wanted to go back to 1975, you also have to know where it is in conjunction to the space where you are at, in the first place. You literally can't stay on one connected dimension and move back and forth. You must move through all 4 dimensions simultaneously. This is not multiverse theory. Granted if you talk about multiverses, then maybe there's more than one version of Earth along a different time line right beneath you, but more than likely the impact to the destination universe to have Earth in the same spot, at a different time, implies some gravitational catastrophic event, either in our timeline or the destination. It is highly likely the 5100 wouldn't exist or it's just a dust planet.
Let's say his time machine can go back in time to 1975 and be precise. He would need to know the coordinates in relationship to the whole universe. Given this ability, why does it matter where he starts and stops, or what car he is in? He could transport to any location on Earth at any time, and not bother negotiating with a person for a 5100. I would have just traveled to the end of the assembly line and pickup a box and be out of there. Brand spanking new.
Titor is just too dramatic, looking for attention.
Experiment: Graph an XY coordinate on Earth, trace it for a day, or a year. Where does that point exist in relationship to time and the Sun? It's a lot like a Spirograph, but in three dimensions. At no point in time is it possible for the XY coordinate going to cross itself. It will literally be 1000 miles away in a matter of minutes or seconds.
@@danilko1 Perhaps the time travel mechanism entagles itself with a sufficiently large mass nearby at the point of departure. It would then be anchored in the same relative position to that mass until it reappears, without offering the possibility of functioning as a teleporter able to reach any arbitrary point in space.
SERN was in love with the 1975 IBM that is the real reason he had to go retrieve it.
Plot twist: The dog thinks you were talking to him the whole time and wholesomely listens
It’s a girl
Most animals think you're talking to them if they can't see anyone else in the room.
Nah. Dog know he wasn't talking to her... That's why she was uneasy... There were no other sentient beings in the room. Dog "okay, just take it easy, relax... Stop talking to the inanimate object...."
govt psychological operation on naive public
@@gailwinds We have three cats and they all have a weird freak-out mode when they see/hear me talking on the phone. I had to shut myself in the bathroom one time cuz I thought Kitty was going to go for my throat. He has jumped on my back before, when I was on the phone. 😂 Very weird.
The dog be like "Dude, who are you talking to?".
No. The dog is Titor. It is also a shaggy dog story.
Yes, I LOVE the dog! He is the star of this video!
@@thhall459 Doggie got all my attention.
The dog must be working for the organization! He's onto us!
You know when someone on the street just sits and looks at you? Imagine they are from the future looking at you because in som way you are important to them or the world in their timeline. Shit like this makes me think for hours...
That’s deep dude
This makes me think you've been hitting the pipe one too many times.
@@RetroRecipes lol
Daaaaaaaaaaaaaamn
steins;gate belike
I love the mythology about John Titor and how deeply it's tried into the Steins;gate visual novel. But only 1/4 of Steins;Gate is based on it (the important parts involving Suzuha) but the underlying Many-Worlds interpretation used by Titor plays a role throughout the entire Science Adventure series. Now, many things do have an answer.
- How did Titor know about the mainframe emulator? It's not a far fetched guess, but most likely ANY IBM engineer that worked on it, or their next-of-kin might have known about it. I'm sure there was more than one person responsible for the 5100, and it's not a coincidence that someone would use their pet-project in a story. That's the same reason why a lot of novels use their own hometowns in novels.
- The photos look like stage props. All of them. There is one you didn't use which involved the "bending light" which is one of the easier to disprove ones with a fibre optic cable. I'll give whoever came up with kudos for going that extra mile to make it look like a real thing, but the lack of any photos showing it operating is enough proof that it can't be real.
- Various other details are not hard-and-fast coincidences. Heating the space plane, civil wars, etc. You don't need a crystal ball to predict certain things happening if you don't give it a specific date. The MWI theory itself, and as used in Steins;Gate, gives an easy-out for divergences. You can't just take the winning lotto numbers, go back a day in time and win, because a divergence doesn't guarantee RNG will be the same. You'd be better off trying to invest in an index fund in 1975 and create a trust to never change that investment until it's time to cash out.
What tf is steinsgate
@@pointlessrandom7619 a visual novel / anime series based around time travel and the Many Worlds Interpretation theory. Titor is explicitly referenced and is a central figure in the story. It is fantastic.
I agree with you, people will believe anything.
How do u think some people WON the jackpot? They time traveled- so EASY.
@@Manifesting_Secret_Sketchbook through CERN no doubt.
I very clearly remember reading about john titor, going through those forms. expecting him to fade into obscurity, and wondering "will I remember this in years" ... years later, people keep mentioning it to me, and I tell them I watched it unfold live. I regret not participating and asking questions leaving a trace of myself in this whole story.
I watched it unfold to. Life went on and forgot till this video. I time traveled in my memory tonight and most assuredly enjoyed the nostalgia!!
Same
@@atari-qz8iq new capital is Omaha Nebraska.
Same. I came in late but watched the end and was immediately intrigued. I downloaded all of his comments and have them to this day. What’s really interesting is if you don’t focus on dates, the events he described are starting to become more and more likely to unfold as the years go by. The John tidor story is my favorite mystery of all time.
I am just like him, once they come for you they never stop,
Boy, that dog sure loves you. You must have a good heart.
*Clicking on this video* - "Huh, is this a Steins;Gate reference? ...wait, the Titor thing actually really happened??"
lmao
Thanks for picking up this story, I hadn't read much on it since 2006-ish but was quite an interesting Q&A event. Text forums and new internet had a magnetic appeal, I could see why anyone from the future would want to go to that era. As a gamer, there was a real sense of community. These days it's selfies and "here's a picture of my lunch", everyone seems to be online and completely disengaged from one another. There's a lot of great things today, most of which is better than the past, but there is that element many of us wish would've carried forward.
My pleasure!
Aegelis, what a great comment. Could not agree more, and have thought the same thing countless times over the years. I'd gladly give up some of the upgrades for the camaraderie and fun of yesteryears (not to mention how much safer computer OS were back then). Shoot, plenty of Americans have no idea how much has been blocked or scrubbed away from us, even with a VPN. But I digress; thanks for the awesome post!
Yeah, there was something special about the internet during that era. its hard to put into words you just had to experience it yourself...
Interesting thought. Indeed, its like a huge hive mind most are connected to and sucks their brains out and makes them mindless drones that do nothing more than parroting whatever they're fed. I rarely see people advancing their thought using resources they're given. It's like they just having mash on their plate and satisfied with it.
Sometimes it seems that the internet has all but stopped human interaction. Sad that this is shapping a future of little to no human contact.
You can laugh, but in 1985, I worked in an office that relied on a Hewlett-Packard like this for scientific computing. It had a tiny screen and a micro tape drive. Original Price: $19,000.
So in 1980, you could buy a microcomputer, or a BMW 3-Series sedan.
I remember that HP model. It was the first microcomputer that could mathematically draw a circle on the display. Bleeding edge at the time, now my cell phone can blow its doors in.
@@spvillano I bet you are right.
The 5100 and 5110 were exceptional machines for their time. I remember my Dad taking me to the IBM field office in 1975 when they, the 5100, was released. It was a demo machine and I got to play the football game when I went with him. Fast forward to late 1979 early 1980 I was trained on servicing these machines as an IBM Field Engineer. Compared to the older card machines, 360 based, System 3's I was also trained on, the 5100 platform was a dream to work on even with all the tech crammed into a small space.
On a side note we were informed of the HAL 9000 from the movie 2001 Space Odyssey in my later training. HAL is IBM moved one letter forward H-I A-B L-M AND IBM came out with a System 9000 in the mid 1980's when I was trained on the System 9000.
Interesting!!
IBM moved one letter forward would be JCN. You mean one letter back, which would be HAL....
Since AI is such a threat to Musk, wondering if the 5100 would be needed in the future to fight "Skynet" if fiction becomes reality?
9000s used for our bird buffers at sunnyvale AFS USAF
. may have seen you.
And for those who don't know, Microsoft copied this cryptic shape-shifting naming scheme when they developed their Windows NT server operating system, which was the first 32-bit Windows OS. Windows NT, or WNT, is a one-letter-forward mapping (or "Caesar cipher") for VMS. VMS was an older mainframe OS marketed by Digital Equipment Corporation, and both of these operatinv systems were developed by the same guy, David Cutler. Clearly, Microsoft was in on the whole I-B-M and H-A-L cheeky thing. What is weirder is that it wasn't just some internal project name, they actually concocted a full commercial product name and spent many millions on a marketing campaign promoting "Windows NT" which they claimed stood for "Windows New Technology". Now you know the truth.
I haven't heard about the 5100 for years. I used one extensively in 1979 to control materials handling equipment. I was an IBM senior engineer at the time.
Did you know about its "hidden feature" back when you used it?
yes, to echo the above posters thoughts please, continue.
@Sailor Kane, would you mind contacting me by email, please? It's under the About section of my channel page. I would like to talk to you about your experience with the 5100
@@nexustheory did that guy ever contact you about this computer?
@@hiddenamericachannel unfortunately he has not.
My middle school in Pennsylvania had a 5100. We had zero idea what to do with it, and almost nobody knew APL. I tried learning it and was just lost. Hilarious machine though. It looked expensive, but $19K, that was a fortune at that time.
The price of a new home
Haven't seen a Titor video in years. This story has been done thousands of times and it never gets old.
...or new.
...or true.
I guess you could say its...Timeless ;)
This is interesting. The Titor story is constructed very well. That dog is in love with you BTW.
Of course it is, otherwise it would be a cat
Its from an anime called steins gate
@@codyism666 Technically the anime steins gate is based off of Titor.
Yes she is. So cute. ❤️
@@kurtisschwartz9870 Technically,
the anime is adapted from a Visual Novel of the same name. It's not an original anime series. It's an adaptation & a damn good one too.
I remember when all this John Titor stuff was 'live' and I was in on it, real time....and there was a real sense of 'this guy is the real deal' feeling.....just something about the straight up answers to questions and it felt like this guy wasnt trying to hide anything.....a couple of the pictures were pretty interesting and that was before there was a lot of photochop software out there and the chops were pretty easy to tell back then.
I completely agree that there are divergent and alternate timelines and that he was from one that was slightly different than ours.....
totally agree with you... the one image with the machine active and in travel with the red light beam being bent outside the window of the car was the most impressive and hard to fake.
@@kevinpittman2517 is that pic in this video? I can't seem to find it... do you have a timestamp or round about time that appears if it's in the video?
@@kevinpittman2517 I too would like to see said picture. I've been on the net since 1998 but never stumbled upon John titor till he had already came and went. I read the forum posts around the early 2000s with pictures of his time machine but not of what you speak. Ok I looked up John titor red beam and I see it. That is impressive! What is he holding in his right hand that looks like a cigar?
I want to believe! So many people want to believe lies that they fill in the blanks themselves.
Fiber optic cable terminating in his hand at the "laser pointer" with a red light source outside of view behind the car door? That amount of gravity would have devastating effects on any organic matter in proximity.
My Dad worked for IBM as a Systems Engineer, and he brought a 5100 home for a whole week. It was quite an impressive experience and our first "home computer" (for a week). What a luggable powerful advancement for its day. Thanks for this video.
Oh wow!
Was he at the Rochester complex? If so he probably worked with my dad.
That gorgeous puppy waited over 16 minutes for a cuddle.
My female pittweiller is absolutely in love with my boyfriend... I mean, LOVESTRUCK to the core
🧡💛💚💙💜💙💚💛🧡💜
When I first met him she was all over him like"Mom can we keep him?" LoL 🐶🐕🐾🐾
I love all of this. 🙂
That line again and I quote “Trimming my bush” 🤔😂
It's so refreshing to see a youtuber who doesn't scream at you. Subscribed!
Haha thanks!!
Same.
And with a lovely dog.
I had the same Thought.
Maybe that’s why Google recommended this
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Everyone travelling back to the 1980/90s and putting it on repeat
Yoda "Difficult to see, always in motion is the future"
Spaceballs took temporal matters for a fine romp in the park with the now, then soon bit.
I am so glad to see this video. I had lusted after that IBM 5100 personal computer ever since I saw it advertised on TV in 1975. I had begun to doubt my own memory. I used to teach computer science and computer history. I told my classes that the so called first generation of personal micro computers wasn't the first at all. It wasn't the Apple II, the Radio Shack TRS-80 or the Commodore PET. I told them there had been an IBM personal computer earlier that had a tape drive, a BASIC interpreter and an APL interpreter. But I never had any evidence that such a machine ever existed. I would have thought that it was a hallucination except that I actually coded for a while in APL. I made a proposal to my boss to create our whole internal MIS system in APL. I loved that language. I might have convinced him until one day there was a bug and an error message was printed out. APL doesn't used standard English and Roman characters. My boss looked at it and said -"What is this Martian"? The young girls who would have run my APL system probably would have screamed.
Very shortly thereafter I acquired a Altair. The Altair was very primitive while the IBM 5100 was like a Science Fiction device. The next year I got a Commodore PET and - as they say - the rest is history. This is the first reference to that machine I've seen anywhere since I saw it on TV in 1975. The Altair I got free and the PET cost $800. The IBM TV ad ended with the guy holding it out toward the viewer and saying something like " Shake hand with he IBM Personal Computer." He didn't mention how heavy it was.
Yeah this seems more like the first PC but not consumer-grade
12:39 " trimming my bush " ahh love adult humor 🤣
Very lucky man she is gorgeous
I think he was a originally unsuccessful fan fic writer and worked selling the units as a door to door salesman. Many sales man became familiar with their products by taking apart and putting together the product. Which could explain how they had such in depth knowledge about a seemingly hush hush feature of a product.
I remember this particular line of argument at the time as well. -Perfectly reasonable conclusion. But if you read through the 4 month summary of his chat logs, that's not the type of person you find. What he describes is us, but 10 years earlier. As if the Avian Bird Flu of 2009 was called-off.
12:15 There's also a third option, he analyzed that computers operating system for whatever reason and found the emulator (like how people find unused content by digging into video games today.)
I owned the IBM 5100 PC computer in 1985. I had the external tape machine with it. A friend and myself bought it out of the newspaper for $250 and thought we could do something fun with it. It had accounting software and some kind of space game with it. We kinda got it to work but it was really difficult to use as far as home use. I wanted to keep it with my PC collection with the TRS 80 and Sinclair but the wife decided I needed to get rid of it. Little did I know that the parts might be needed to save the world in the future. Just my luck!
this world line didn't allow for titor to find the IBM so it made your wife throw it out 😭
Imagine John Titor watching this video in 2036, and replying my comment.
Trolling
I’m sorry, but the 2O38 bug had huge effects.
Hey I'm back guys
Why wouldn't he reply today, as he is alive right now.
Maybe this video is what inspired him to travel back in time.
This story factors heavily into the anime/visual novel Steins;Gate. Absolutely amazing sci-fi story, and I highly recommend it to everyone.
I came from 1985 to be here (2020). It's hard but it took me 35 years of travel
I believe you
Bro why tf would you travel to 2020😐
Are u a virgo...I sence that your a virgo
How’s you do it
We're all time travelers.
Such a precious pupper. Really charming.
I'm a freelance computer engineer and I always remember my 3rd grade teacher telling me the ibm 5100 was a concept 15 years ahead of it's time that was in 2005
I used to sell the Compaq version about 10 years later - it was still 15 years ahead of it's time :)
I have always thought, and occasionally shared with others, that UFOs were simply humans from the future. This video was the first time I heard/heard of someone else suggesting that.
Great minds…
I've been saying these things since the late 90's, after reading "Chariots of the Gods" as a teenager.
You're not the only one ....
Makes more sense than not, when you really think about it.
Its actually a very common idea... just like the one that matches the 'greys' as possessing very logical adaptations to survive to long-term space habitation.
This idea dovetails perfectly with Carl sagan's calculation that life absolutely does exist elsewhere in the universe, but it's just too damn far away for us to ever ever see.
Except why weren't they reported in history ?
I just stumbled across this video, and I'm paused at exactly 10:40 in. My Dad is actually a (now retired) IBM Global Project Engineer. He started at IBM in the early 70s and didn't retire until 2013. My mom also was an IBM engineer starting in the early 70s but she stopped working there in 1982. If anyone wants me to talk to my dad about this I'm more than happy to...
That’s pretty amazing. I guess you could ask him how many people knew about that hidden feature? This would help us determine if Titor was just a regular guy who heard about it on the grapevine, or not… Thank you!
@@RetroRecipes my Dad just got back to me, I guess he's still in a email listserv with IBM retirees worldwide, so he shared the link to your video. There's quite a few people in the group that worked on this from the earliest stages of pre-development. If you're interested let me know how to get in contact with you and I'll connect you with my Dad. He's definitely seen some shit as far as IBM goes...
@@MsEsquire83 Thanks so much! I got your email and replied to you both. I'm so excited to hear your dad's tales. He sounds like an amazing man. Cheers!
This will definitely be interesting if the story is true about a small modification to access what the time traveler was talking about. Seen jumper wires on some old computers before most programs could alter what the jumper wires did.
@@RetroRecipes Well it seems like we might get a new video from you now on this topic once more. Can't wait to hear all the stuff about how the contact went if it wasn't a hoax.
OMG, completely forgot about this from the early 2000s. They used to discuss it a lot on the late night radio show Coast to Coast back then. There were several bids on a 5100 on e-bay in the thousands of dollars.
It's weird that you just posted this. I just recently finished watching Stein's Gate. I didn't know John Titor was a "real" person.
I've been researching the John Titor story for close to 20 years now. what a lot of people don't know about the story is that if you look up the purported Time machine that he used whether the story is true or not, that technology is actually patented and you can look up the actual US patent for that exact technology. the person who created the patent apparently was no longer proceeding with the patent application I think as of last year or earlier this year but nonetheless there was a design made exactly in line that is identical to the technology in the John Titor story.
@@computerscientist7795 care to share a link to the patent number?
@@computerscientist7795 He isn't proceeding with the patent since the CIA bought him out.
there are good talks in Coast to Coast AM about Titor, and there are atleast 2 phone calls in podcasts, as i rememeber that the other one was different (wrong?) Titor,
@@computerscientist7795 you can get a patent for anything lol doesn't mean they have the tech.
The entire Titor matter is fascinating. I read elsewhere that a "John Titor" in Florida was located...at the age a young time traveler from the "storyline" ought to be. I've read the (secret) ability of the 5100 was, allegedly, only known to half a dozen people - until Titor discussed it on the internet. I personally have reasons for disbelieving functional, successful time travel. However, I also currently concede I've no alternate explanation which properly covers all the details involved. (I miss Art Bell!)
John didn't talk about the Rona afaik, which I think any time in the near future will either know about the corona thing as being a really weird time in their past, or the start of the neverending virus/variants struggle. I couldn't imagine any actual Time traveller not knowing at least corona virus being such a big impact on the world for years (or even decades,we still have no end in sight as or December 2021)
@@undinism69 I would assume it’s because any interaction with the past creates branching events and unpredictable alternate “timelines”. I don’t think time travel in the single-line Terminator sense is possible at all. However, the idea that there are infinite alternate realities (I guess this is “many worlds theory”) that are all identical makes sense to me. And when communicating between them or moving from one to another, there’s no reason you’d have to reach the same time you are from in your own reality. You could go into 1980 or 1880 or any point that would appear as your own “past”, though it’s really just the present in a parallel identical universe that is simply “running late” as it were.
Anyway, even the smallest of changes could have ripple effects. John could have caused COVID-19 lmao
Deep
Titor caused Covid!!!!!
@@undinism69 Titor didn't make any predictions as far forward as 2020, except to discuss what his life was like in 2036.
@Dennis Anderson there is zero chance that anyone named 'John Titor' alive today (or anytime since 2000) in Florida or anywhere else would be our purported time traveler, because John was so highly protective against his parents being outed and grilled by government agents. 'Titor' was just a pseudonym.
Love how a computer made 50 years ago or so is a key component to time travel but literally NOTHING we have nowadays is related to time in anyway possible except for touchscreen smart watches
The IBM 5100 wasn't any kind of component necessary to time travel, it's retrieval from 1975 was simply the job that Titor was tasked with because it was needed for other purposes, unspecified in any detail except for the datetime expiration that was so well described in this video.
Not NOTHING..
You might be interested in the dodleston story. worth your time.
@@anona6129 I actually finished watching some videos about it yesterday
@@SepticEmpire Nice!
Have a thumbs up for an entertaining video but mostly for "trimming my bush!" I just spat tea all over my monitor, thanks.
Lol apologies!
@@RetroRecipes It's OK, no damage done, it cleaned off without a problem.
Spat. Tea. Suuuuure!
In 15 years time, when this gets put on your RUclips feed, you'll say, 'Oh yeah, that makes sense, as GE have those time tavel machines for sale.
if John Titor exists he would be living among us now as a 14yr old
@@brettthreat4234 or he's an old man in gov bunker.
“One of the major problems encountered in time travel is not that of becoming your own father or mother.... The major problem is simply one of grammar, and the main work to consult in this matter is Dr. Dan Streetmentioner's Time Traveler's Handbook of 1001 Tense Formations."
Douglas Adams
Many of us are still rather annoyed that the universe was created in the first place.. it's proving to be a very bad idea ;)
"Art, that wasn't herb tea. That was Herb." - Harry Anderson, Night Court.
MY wife and I toss that gem out now and then for the lulz.
Thank you for reminding me about John Titor. I was in high school in 2000 when John Titor started making waves and for a little while I was obsessed with this story.
Needing an IBM 5100 to debug a Unix-related problem doesn't make a lot of sense; Sure, the 5100's microcode could emulate the 360 ISA. But these mainframes were batch processors - using things like OS/360 to get the jobs done. Not used interactively through a command prompt. Not at all related to Unix, which began on a PDP-7 in 1971 and was released into the wild years later. It's a cool story, and the patent on the time machine is a very fascinating read (if you can understand the theoretical pseudo physics!). My heart goes out to everyone who were on the forums watching this unfold!
Damn. That's a name I hadn't heard in a long time. Actually an old acquaintance first told me about John Titor a few years after he apparently went back to the future. She was on the old message boards and was even able to participate in the discussions at the time.
Ultimately true or not, it was a pretty fascinating story.
yea same here i was blown away i remember when he said something and i paraphrase something like would u believe me if i told u that tomorrow 150thousand people will be killed in a tsnuami ? then it actually happened a few yrs later.
@@kevinpittman2517 Yeah because plausible deniability and stupid people that want to believe doesn't make for good bed fellows... SMH, you might as well believe in nostradamus.
I remember watching all this go down on the forums back in the day. Have to admit I was taken in
I wasn't, there were always inconsistencies in his tall tales; for example, "I'm here to pick up an IBM 5100."
"You're free to join me, I'm going back to 1975 and then to 2036."
Uh, why? Didn't you come HERE to pick up the 5100, why do you need to go to 1975? Meeting your parents? When, before or after you got the machine? And why didn't you say you were ON YOUR WAY to 1975 to get the 5100 earlier, rather than claim, "You're HERE to pick up an IBM 5100."
There are plenty of other inconsistencies like that, including the "not knowing what UFOs are", but suspecting they're humans from the future, despite having inventing time travel, one would assume that would mean you know what to look for, what particles are emitted, in order to detect/confirm time travel. So they should be able to confirm that the UFOs at least use time travel, but no, they don't know.
Then there's the problem with him just spending months with his parents in 2000; when he's from a time that is post-nuclear war; first of all, the recovery from a nuclear war is awfully quick, but wouldn't the military have picked someone who was extremely duty minded and was ordered not to waste time and interact with anyone beyond the absolute necessary? After all; how high is the temptation to stay in 1975 when you're living in a post-nuclear war hellhole, especially since you know which companies are going to be big and with a few proper stocks to buy you become rich in no time.
The Truth is out there
@@3dmaster205 yeah I was a kid back then lacking in scientific training and in a “honeymoon phase” with DMT around that time. Now I am less credulous.
I wouldn't discount anything these days. The government did make a time traveler, warp drive detector, ruclips.net/video/DjcS1kRkc6M/видео.html .
@@willyhillstrom7816 Physics girl is cool
I was a Customer Engineer working for IBM back in the 70’s and I serviced the 5100 family of computers. I have no idea whether the hidden ability to recognize older languages is true fact or not but it very well could be true.
If i'm not mistaken, It just changed the emulation in its program decoder. So instead of looking for input in basic, it changed it to emulate the older mainframe cpu. Easily done in any computer of we wished. Since any more modern cpu can run code to emulate a less sophisticated cpu; often with no hit on performance. Was often used to make sure new code would accurately replace old, centralized mainframes.
Um... Think more tethering...
Vital communication being set up / Established
You would seek to quickly transfer mass data on a level "they" (You are passing ) Could Use. You could manufacture readable data on ample (at time) systems. The real ? Is there a past cap... A point unable to return... Or is future Attempting to establish backwards the structure to further go back OR prepare for something else...
Are we talking about hidden code in the ROMs or some hardware ability that would be harder to discover?
A distraction. Think irrelevant, secret "capacitor".
@@bryede What if the computer was Alien and some nerd at area 51 changed the code to speak English and hid the Alien code?
To us its a computer to the nerds it worked a time machine on a space craft.
My mother was a genius mainframe programmer . She transferred mainframe payroll systems to client pc .
The aspect where "Titor" says that he started seeing divergences in the timeline, football games having different outcomes and so on, sounds a lot a like thing seen in the show "7 Days" the science fiction show where a secret gov't project, using an alien fuel source and technology based on alien tech, sends a "Chrononaut" back in time within a 7 day limit to correct things or stop events from happening.
Ooh Chrononauts? I like it!
Yeah i remember that show, it was pretty good IMO.
@@BertGrink Yeah it was pretty cool. They never showed it but apparently anytime the main character went back in time the past version of him would disappear or something. ruclips.net/video/R-HERDOX9-s/видео.html
That was such a great, underrated show. It was the lead in for Star Trek Voyager on UPN.
@@Heymrk oh man UPN. I remember when we first didn't get that channel on our cable so i had to tune it in on my old black and white tv through the UHF dial
The way things are going, this is sounding more plausible every day!
if things work as he stated, our future and his are different, if you seen back to the future, his timeline isnt ours (or if you need a more simple version of this, DBZ Trunks and his time machine)
Let me guess, you "do your own research" 😂
@@TheRealKarmaquarius Yes, but major events still happen, just not in line with the dates from his timeline. We are currently looking at a very realistic civil war in just about every European and Western country. A world war would not be far behind that.
@@taoist32 We are no where close to a civil war. Times in the western world have been far worse than they are now and we all made through it. This is how I know everyone here is either very young or has never picked up a history book. Anyone who grew up in the 1970s would know things have been WAY worse.
My first computer for my business was an IBM 5110. Used Cost = $9,995.00 with 8" floppy drives (no hard disks) and a whopping 16K of memory. Ran Basic. We got a lot out of that box and eventually added a 10 MB hard drive ($9,000). It worked great until we moved to a WANG mini computer -- ahhhh the memories.
What if they were time traveling pranksters leaving modern day hammers in multimillion year locations just to mess with every one.
It is fascinating that when Retro Recipes contacted IBM to comment for this video they refused to comment. Now if this story of John Titor truly is Fiction or made-up in the mind of some Computer Scientists' Fantasy or imagination, IBM would have no problem revealing in a video to the public that this is not true but rather Fiction.
Why is it fascinating? Why would a company care about some rando they have never heard of? It isn't fascinating it should be expected unless you want to believe and then you should realize that and take a step back.
Also imagine a company making a statement to every single RUclips channel to every conspiracy theory, accusation etc. on them. Would the channels at least pay them for their time accordingly/satisfactorily?
It's an interesting story for sure. I was most interested in the driving part, as it seemed to parallel something that happened to myself and my family in 2016. We were driving to a holiday home 500kms away, at night, and it seemed to be taking a long time to get there. We thought we may be lost, so we pulled over in a small town opposite an IGA Supermarket, which was still open. I asked some locals if we were close to our destination, and they said yes, it's 30kms further down the road. We discussed returning in the morning to do our shopping at the IGA. The next morning, we drove back to that town, and the IGA was gone. I was told it had not been there for several years. Four of us in the car had seen it, the lights were on, and there were people inside. We arrived over an hour late that night and cannot account for the missing time.
Wow 🤯
That's intriguing. You've had an experience of the 'butterfly effect'. Have there been any other cases that you remember?
@@AlwaysPim In the past perhaps on my own, but never like this with four people. We still talk about it and have even contacted the supermarket chain to confirm there used to be one in town. What's even stranger is that when I go back on google Earth's timeline view, you can see that there was an IGA in that town, on that street, but it's on the opposite side of the road, so it makes even less sense. If I could look back and see it exactly where we saw it, that would follow some sort of time slip. It's an odd one for sure.
Interesting story, I have heard of it happening before. My friend also once told me his parents were going to town to bank some money but knew they would arrive too late but planed to stay the night there. But when they arrived they were nearly an hour earlier than they should have got there.
@@jameschurchill8710 perhaps it was some kind of "time reflection" (idk, maybe like a bubble that distorted things around twice, so other side of road but not backwards lettering), hence the other side of the road.
Really fascinating story!
What town was this?
"It's a Thyme machine." Lady Fractic "Why is he like this?"
If it were true, and time travel is closer to us, then we think... I would want to go back in time to hug my mom and tell her how much I love her before she died.
When I retired from the Army a few years ago I found out the Defence finance and accounting system still uses msdos. The time traveler just wanted to get paid.
The john titor story is legit. I remember when it was goin on and was reading the forums where he was posting. His answers to the science and mechanics of time travel were too advanced to be a hoax.
I totally believe it was legitimate also. I understand some of the physics behind time travel and what he stated in the forums was spot on to my studies. Mathematically, time travel is not only possible, it is achievable. Also speed of light travel has nothing to do with time travel and is not even synonymous. It is true that speed through space dilates time but going back and forth in time really has nothing to do with speed of light but variations of Electromagnetic fields and gravity displacement
@@scottcupp8129 Time travel is not possible.
This was by far one of the most fascinating and entertaining videos I've seen on this or any other channel.
I've never heard of John Titor, sadly, or of his time travelling excursions before having seen this video; but it's a fantastic story regardless of whether it's true or not. I really enjoyed how you presented your own take on the story while letting the viewer make up their own mind on the subject matter.
I loved PuppyFractic's use of the whistle; she's getting really good at it! But how can she get even better if you keep taking the whistle away from her...? 🤭
I also loved the "shameless plug" of your novel The Chrononaut; that book deserves so many accolades as it's a fantastic concept and story. 🙂
By the way, that was a very clever use of your appearance in Independence Day: Resurgence; it added to the subject matter and narrative in a really awesome way. 🙂
I cannot stress this enough; this channel is headed for unparalleled success with videos like these, and will continue to inform and entertain future generations to come. Have a good one, Christian, and take care. 😊
Thank you for your kind words! Means a lot 👍🕹️
Website called abovetopsecret was investigating john titor when it was all playing out. Idk if the discussions or even the website still exist as I haven’t been there in years.
@@RetroRecipes The top comment on a video that came out today, about time travel, is from 2 weeks ago. I think there's something you're not telling us.
@@josephfanning1241 🤫
@@BrorAppelsin AboveTopSecret very much still exists. I was there in 2004 when it was all going down
There was a guy posting on the timetravelinstitute website (now defunct), about 15 years ago, who claimed to be from 2236, which would be 200 years after Titor's time, and he claimed that he had read books as a young person about Titor's projects, and that they were military projects following some sort of EMF pulse war or something like that. He further claimed that the technology used by Titor was still being taught in 2236, but had been greatly improved upon by then. I can't remember all the details, a lot of the technical details went over my head, but I do remember he called their current scientific model for time travel, the "Taurus model", but I can't remember what in the world that was. And something about limited range, accuracy and reliability, and other stuff I can't remember. But he posted quite a lot of stuff, and answered a lot of questions, which were usually taken as incorrect science. Anyway, he did post several photos, I think I still have a couple of them. One picture was him and a colleague or partner, with a weird device on a pole that he was holding, and another device in his hand. Don't remember what he said it was. I may still have that photo somewhere, I'll check. He said they collected data for scientific knowledge only. He appeared on the forum off and on for a few years, then completely went away around ten years ago I think. Never heard from him again, but, I do still have his photos somewhere that he emailed to me, and several other people on the forum. He also offered detailed explanations of how it all works, but I don't have those emails anymore. I didn't understand any of it anyway.
I feel like a time traveller myself what with all the repeats being shown on TV and RUclips these days.
We are all time travelers we are just stuck going one-way following the arrow of time
I’m enjoying Mannix.
I know what you mean. Im a child of the 60’s. Ive finally caught up with the tech i expected to see in the 1990’s. Its like living in the future!
@@420hapster arrow of time explain more how we stuck
@@Technichian462 you’re a time traveler ??
The IBM 5100 changed my life in 1977. My dad had connections and got to borrow one for a couple of weeks. It probably altered my life's course. I now live in an alternate timeline.
A different world line perhaps?
@@pwt4195 same thing
@John Smith, would you mind contacting me by email, please? It's under the About section of my channel page. I would like to talk to you about your experience with the 5100.
Woah
@John Smith Wait, are you a time traveler from another dimension? Cause y'know, your username... 😁
It is true.
Titor initiated the retro computer nostalgia repair movement so the computer he ACTUALLY went back in time to use would be repaired, recapped, and ready for debugging when he arrives in the actual time needed.
The American civil war he talked about - despite getting dates wrong - actually seems to be unfolding just as he said it would.
Yes, the dates may be inaccurate as he came from another time loop, which means we will still have civil and nuclear war just at a different date. And that date gets closer and closer. I had a vision last summer while backpacking with friends. I’m not religious, psychic, or otherwise involved with paranormal activities. In this vision, which occurred in the middle of the night, I was transported to the year 2040. I was still at the campsite, but my friends were gone and what remained look like devastation in the environment. Someone came upon me with his dog, and I asked for help. He said that this was the year 2040 after the Great War took place in 2030. I wanted to find my family and friends, but he said most people perished between 2025 and 2030 due to the vaccination global program, and the Great War between all governments happened right after that leaving only small pockets of survivors in every country. The vision continues, but this is the gist of it. It freaked me out because this vision was sudden and clear. I don’t feel like I imagined it. Hopefully, it doesn’t happen, but when people like myself who don’t believe start getting visions I tend to pay attention.
@@taoist32 holy cow! You've got my attention! Have you been to the web page she has attached and read everything he said about the civil war? I personally believe that you're on to something. Just like a different dimension may have a war set for different years, it may also take place with different scenarios, while the basic premise remains the same. Man...I wish I could pick your brain to know more details about what you saw in your vision. I'm not one to live in fear, and I won't, but I've always lived by the motto: "prepare for the worst, hope for the best". I also agree with listening to gut feelings, instincts, or unusual dreams/visions that come to us like the way you just explained. Heck, I'm definitely religious and I believe that things like this are a gift. God gave us common sense to be able to figure out if something is just a dream that our imagination just came up with or if it's a vision. It's two very different things. I'm not one to go around believing everyone or everything, but if you can put two and two together by looking at the facts...things start clicking. It's only unbelievable to the ones that refuse to entertain the possibility AND refuse to dig into the information that's all around them.
@@darlingdeb7010 To answer your first question, I have not looked up anything about the civil war. As for the vision, yes there are more details. Most governments, including the US, are destroyed. However, the Chinese army takes residence and are hunting down our small pocket communities. I saw small, nomadic groups with small tents and cabins along with gardens. Most of the environment looked like desert. If you have watched any dystopian movies notice that several have desert environments. That’s pretty much what I remember. And, by the way, this vision took place in June before the vaccine was ready to go.
@@taoist32 so in your vision, was it the vaccine that took people out or was it people rebelling against a forced vaccination, or even people upset that not everyone would get the vaccine that started the war? What was your gut feeling on the cause and (for the sake of this conversation, arguing that this vision comes true or something similar to it - which could happen) what do you think we should do to either prepare for it or protect ourselves from it? The guy in the video, on that website, said that we would be much safer living in small towns (not suburbs) far away from any major cities, since that's where Russia will target their nukes. Yours is a very different scenario though. Yours, if I'm reading correctly, is bio warfare. Correct?
If I could travel to time, I will stay in 70's 4Ever
Plot twist: Perifractic is actually John Titor.
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Plot twist twist: Perifractic is actually a robot operated by the real John Titor, who is Puppyfractic.
@@bcostin DOES NOT COMPUTE.
So the emp the wiped out the ibms didn't affect all the other computers that are going to have the 2038 issue 🤔
@@iceman198021 The EMP didn't wipe out computer factories. So they can build new computers. But they can't build old computers as the code was lost when the EMP wiped the code from the 5100s.
I've done enough research over the years to know this story is bogus, but I still love it anyway.
It's so well done and convincing though.
Way to explain how it was bogus
Wow! A blast from my past!! I used to program on a IBM 5100 when I worked for IBM in 1981. I remember APL with it’s Quads and other symbols. Thanks for the memories!!
Milton, would you mind contacting me by email, please? It's under the About section of my channel page. I would like to talk to you about your experience with the 5100 if you don't mind.
I used to work for IBM General Systems Division in Phoenix installing these machines. This whole story is a really well done mix of buzzwords, BS, and deception. The 'secret feature', I.e., the IBM 360 emulator ' which IBM refused to comment on' was not exactly secret--it was the basis for the whole machine architecture. IBM wrote at least 2 technical papers on it. The BASIC and APL languages on the 5100 were lifted straight off IBMs mainframes to avoid the cost of developing new ones. The line 'it can read all the legacy language's is more vague deception-- it can read BASIC and APL--both of which are 'legacy language's' but nothing else. I would suggest that watchers take this video as a good 'mystery' story, but that's all.
Thank you Dave. That’s fascinating insight. I have pinned your comment... for the _time_ being...
@@RetroRecipes Of course! How silly of me...... :)
Dave, excellent post, thank you!
@@K3Flyguy Thank you very much! I hope I didn't sound too critical of the 'author' of all of this stuff--he knows at least something about the 5100, or he wouldn't be able to fabricate such a good story.
What is there so difficult to understand about time travel.it happened by accident with the phillidelphia experiment.watch al beliek time travel tech info.start watching second half of video first.
I like how your dog has no idea what's going on ..but also doesn't care lol
Time-travel is impossible.
Finally gives his dog some love at the end. I waited until the end for that.
For everyone that keeps talking about how the Space Force logo was inspired by the Star Trek logo; yes, yes it was. In turn the Star Trek logo was inspired by the NASA logo. So hush already.
They are inspired by the high Councils of the founder races so there you go big head !
I am only being sarcastic and not nasty btw!
I remember that 2038 limit from working in Microsoft Access in the late 90s.
Only applies to 32 bit systems. Who these days has an actual 32 bit computer?
Africans, and countries that are not developed.
@@gbennett58when Windows rolled 32 into 64, bunch of files went 1969 bonkers
In 1995 my aunt (one of three sisters) quipped "You know, there probably are time travellers but they've all been warned to stay away from the 20th century!". My aunt and my Mum being the way they are, this is the sort of thing they would think/say all the time.....
I never heard any of this until just now. I live in Rochester Minnesota and was a computer tech at the IBM complex. My dad was a computer programmer and worked there at the time the 5100 was built and had a part in that machine. Weird.
I first heard of John Titor when I was listening to Art Bell back in 1998 driving for Yellow Cab in Birmingham AL.... a very interesting story
That story has always perplexed me because of the fact he knew about it’s secret function. No one outside of IBM knew it could do that so kinda hard to fabricate.
Yeah there is no way that it was only know to IBM employees, they would have told people but it only becomes relevant when people like you try to connect the dots for the conmen.
@@craigcutler6919 His Real name is John Holden or something like that. And he happens to be a computer scientist. And his book is for sale on amazon
his grandfather made them lmao
He probably needed that old IBM so they could change the epoch to something later. That way they'd be able to avoid the problem entirely.
If somehow I ever go back into the past to the 2000s, I wanna hijack titors thread and be like "yo John, kinda weird how you've not mentioned 9/11/2001 yet"
Well... it turns out there was an Air France hijack in the mid '90s that wanted to slam the aircraft into the Eiffel Tower, so the idea was already floating around (Look here: en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Air_France_Flight_8969). So I see Tito's omission about the 9-11 as a twofold possibility: in THAT future the attacks didn't happen due to the USA learning from the Air France Flight 8969 experience, or the attacks happened but they started a series of events that were deemed as necessary for the country. For example, without the Pearl Harbor attack, American people wouldn't have had a catalyst to enter WWII
I’m back here since we are in a stand off with Russia now
I never heard of this John Titor story before, I always learn something by coming here :)
“And to my surprised there was already a story about a young boy and his older scientist friend who time travel with a car.”
Back to the future
@@lagarthavikings5287 Back to the what?!
I heard about that... It was about a lazy boy and his disgraced old nuclear scientist
Rick and Morty?... lol no I know. But still
@@jonsnipe5484 Nods. He was quite the slacker.
I guess We'll see in 16 years. I watched Steins Gate some time ago and it was first time I had heard of this John Titor thing. Deep inside I want to believe, but I guess common sense takes victory here. Or does it 🤔
Was about to post the same comment, Steins Gate was the first time i heard of this aswell, but ive heard refrences in some other show over the years since.
So did Perifractic watch Steins;Gate all the way through? =)
Ditto, also hadn't heard about John Titor and his escapades before Steins;Gate as well.
Because of steins;gate I looked up for the name john titor. That‘s whx I‘m here
There's no such thing as "common sense" when it comes to quantum physics, physics, theories and etc... Giodanno Bruno was regarded as a heretic and madman for theorizing that the Sun didn't revolve around the Earth.
UFOs being time machines is a central theme of the movie Repo Man.
Back in the 90s Art Bell did an interview with the supposed John Titor.
This is from the anime called steins gate
Titor was here in 2000. Wrong.
Art or George N which I am pretty sure it was G Interviewed the attorney representing Titors family.
I was on the websites he was posting realtime during 2000 and 01.
I spent late night hours reading through all those threads back then! Fascinating...
@@codyism666 The creators of Steins;Gate used this actual person claiming to be John Titor from the future for the basis of their story. This was around before the games or anime were ever made.
2002 ruclips.net/video/oUHDNgw6s8k/видео.html
Very cool and interesting story. Liked how you delivered the info: serene and cool, without annoying hypes.
Thank you for your kind words! Means a lot 👍🕹️
This video is higher quality then people with millions of subscribers hmmmmmmmmm
Thank you for your kind words! Means a lot 👍🕹️
the first time I heard your theory about aliens just being some hyper futuristic humans was in a manga panel and the bit where you show a clip from one of my favorite time travel anime (steins gate) really wanted me to tell you this!
What manga was it?
"Time travel by its very nature is discovered at all points in history simultaneously".._.Douglas Adams
Ironically written for a work of fiction where time travel exist, it forms the premise for my belief that it will never exist. It does not exist in the present or past, therefore it does not exist in the future.
It makes sense now. In 2036, I will go back in time to fetch the odd socks that I mysteriously lost in the wash.
This person actually did an interview with art bell back in the mid nineties. You can most likely find it in the coast to coast archives. I remember listening to it live I don't remember anything about IBM because I'm not a computer guy but I do remember Commodore 64. Good luck on finding that interview.