I recently transitioned from cheap bi-focal lenses to Zeiss progressives and what a world of difference. I had a hard time deciding what frames I wanted, so I purchased a pair of Cartier rimless and a pair of Cazal gold plated titanium frames. I found an excellent optician at Optical Universe in Tarzana, CA who devoted a lot of time to ensuring I had the best lenses and frames for my facial structure and needs. I do, however, owe it all to you Robert for your excellent videos and insights. You inspired me to take the plunge on high end eyewear and I’m very grateful. At 65, I see better than ever. I’m fortunate to live very close to this optician, but for those who don’t, let Robert create a masterpiece for you, you’ll be happy you did.
I have worn progressive lens for many years. Your video Robert was still very informative and clearly describes the quality of lens providers. Thanks again for taking eyecare to the next level!
In 20 years of wearing progressive lenses, I’ve never thought to ask, and never been told, what make of lenses I was being offered (until now) I was asked if I want basic, quite good or excellent lenses, and like most people (I guess), I chose excellent. It’s an important purchase, so it should be made compulsory for all opticians to make that clearer to consumers. (If it isn’t already) Interesting subject, thanks for the information. 👍
Beeing an optician myself i can tell you that it is really tough to provide all the information that would be relevant in a reasonable timeframe. Most customers cant even follow if youre just dumping all that info on them. A youtube video contains much more than what you could deliver personally. I still think that its unfair that people are usually are left in the dark, but from experience i know that most people would lack the stamina to sit through that amount of just explaining with far less visual presentation
@@lemonice2885 that’s true for many people I’m sure, because most are unaware what the options are, and if you told them they’d probably still ask “what do you recommend?” Glasses are sold like an item of clothing in most Opticians, “that suits you, and is a good fit”… but in reality they are more like a prosthetic for your most important sense (your eyesight).
well. The reality of this is that how you get fitted for the glasses and how you glasses and frames are adjusted including post purchase service matter 85%. The rest, 15% is lens dependent, and very similar outcomes can be achieved with either IOT, Zeiss, Verilux or Shamir. For some challenging prescriptions there are corner cases due to optics where optician may prefer e.g. Rodenstock. Opticians have the education and training to make that choice. You just need to do you research and pick the one who is trustworthy and will do what's the best for you.
@@agnesolsvik I totally agree. Luckily I’m in the UK, so it was possible for me to visit The Spectacle Factory, and it was a very different experience than any other Optician I’ve ever been to. Robert & all the staff there were great.
As a french optician, lots of clients complain about our change from Essilor to Zeiss, you re right, Essilor has the best marketing ! Thank you for all your content which is a pleasure to follow, greating from France
Last summer, I visited Paris from the US for vacation. I found a pair of BEAUTIFUL frames, and I could not find ANY ONE who sold Zeiss lenses--which I consider to be the best, too. I have owned some Essilor lenses, including the X lens, but it just does not compare to the Zeiss progressive. To me, the closest thing is the Shamir Intelligence (is that the right name?). But even here in the United States, 9 places out of 10 are Essilor, not Zeiss. And unfortunately, Zeiss has horrible customer service in the US, and they are difficult to communicate with (according to labs and opticians). That's unfortunate, because the lenses are tres tres bonne.
When you have less *****ity, you easily both become dominant in the market _and_ abuse that position to grow yourself into a monopoly. At that point, most shops will sell your products - and it becomes quite easy to... persuade them to sell your brand exclusively. As well as "having the best marketing". It's a market-uglifying self-feeding cycle. Hard to break it. We can do our part "advertising" the truth of the various matters.
IOT Camber and Endless steady are really great lenses and we have tremendous success with it. But strongly agree with you that your lab should be on par with the manufacturing of the product.
Hi Robert - LOVE the channel, thank you so much for all your content. And thank you for finally doing this particular video. Here is my experience with Varilux and PLEASE comment. Three years ago I upgraded to Varilux X series from a brand I don't know the name of because I purchased them from a Warby Parker type store called Eyebobs (I am in the USA, a New Yorker). They were terrible or at least realized so after getting the Varilux. I paired them with Lindberg frameless and they were heavenly. Fast forward to just a few weeks ago. It was time to change the lenses because my Rx had slightly changed. Just the near/reading zone, nothing else. I again ordered Varilux X and when I got them they were the polar opposite of the previous ones, three years prior. The former had NO distortion, all zones were beautifully blended with seamless transitioning from one zone to the next, there was no defined "corridor". All zones were smooth and seamless from one to the other, side to side, top to bottom. All zones were in focus, sharp and clear. I didn't have to move my head. I can move my eyes "around the clock" and everywhere in between and everything was in focus - far, intermediate, and near, edge to edge of the lens. There are no distortions anywhere. It was truly amazing. The latter - there was a strict corridor and extremely narrow at that, maybe 3-6mm, and the regions opposing the corridor were terribly out of focus/blurry, right up against the corridor, no smooth transition. They took up too much of the lens area. Also, the bottom edge of the near sight region failed to be in focus/clear when looking down while walking. I had to bring my chin to my chest for it to be in focus. Sharp vision was not "instant". There was no "wide field of vision". My vision was never "stable". There were no "smooth transitions", all the zones were just short of a hard line of separation (like old school bi-focals). I was continuously moving my head, as opposed to me simply and more naturally my eyes, to get whatever I want to look at INTO the zone required. All of these faults were counter to what the X series promises, those in quotations above.. After a failed attempt to recut another pair my optician then offered to have me try the new XR series. The difference(s) was negligible, with almost no discernible change with the field edge to edge, same as above really. They did however give me plenty of eye strain which could not be overcome. I kept reaching for the old original pair for relief. We finally decided to go to the Shamir Autograph. They aren't as good as the original Varilux X but pretty darn close, and less expensive. As for troubleshooting - we both thought that because the original lenses on the Lindbergs were slightly curved, where the new ones were almost flat (on MODOs), it may have played a part in being so flawless. My optician tried to recut lenses on a 2nd try (the failed attempt) but was told it was not possible (for whatever reason). After two tries with the X series and one on the XR we resigned to the possibility that the originals were just a fluke, a one off perfect "storm". I am happy with the Shamir lenses, especially because they are $200 cheaper with little discernible difference. I may try Zeiss in the future. But at $950 a pop for the Varilux and Zeiss being comparable (I believe) it's hard to justify the added cost for so little advantage. I don't know. I'm very saddened of not knowing what to expect at such a high cost, and having forced to live with it because of said cost. Any thoughts Robert? Any similar experience? Any science you are aware of? Thank you, Ari
Yes: when you move into "biometric" lens territory, the return-of-investment on your customer end drops sharply. You pay a lot for a little. On the other hand, choosing great, non-individual lenses is worth it 100%, and a great investment for everyone, whilst I'd leave the biometric-individual territory to people who can afford a lot.
Thank you so much for explaining the concepts and developments. I had my first verifocals in 2005 and knew very little about them. The optician advised Essilor Verilux (I think they were Panimic), and they felt comfortable immediately. In 2011, a different optician recommended Rodenstock progressive lenses, they were terrible and I had to ask them to change them to Essilor (Physio 2.0 at the time), which were again excellent. Over the next few years, I had Essilor Varilux and they always felt comfortable. In May this year (2024), the opticians recommended Hoya MyStyle V+, the latest 'best' progressive Hoya offer. I have struggled with these lenses, particularly computer screen and phone/tablet just not being "crisp", so my eyes constantly work hard to maintain focus. I feel the strain, and get sore eyes. I visited the opticians today and they recommended going back to Essilor, either Physio or XR, I have not decided yet. Any thoughts highly appreciated.
I've just got a pair of Varilux XR series on Saturday. I've got 80 days to get used to them. These are the second pair of progressives I've tried. I previously tried the best Zeiss progressives two years ago but rejected them after about a month and went back to single vision. So far I have to say I'm disappointed in my XR (to the point I feel I've been mis-sold) and don't think I'll need another 75 days to know what I already know: that there not right for me. Memory is a funny thing; I'm feeling like the XR's are no better and possibly worse than the Zeiss I rejected but as I rejected them I can't do a comparison. I'm feeling like I need to take a trip to Preston to see a chap who seems to know what he's talking about. I feel like for my job - working in front of a 27" computer screen up to 12 hours a day - an occupational lens is the way to go. Interesting the XR's so far have performed best when driving, even at night. The distortion field feels much worse than marketed and I have to turn my head to view the computer monitor and for reading they are just awful - the distortion field seems like it's from a cheap progressive. I do have an astigmatism in both eyes and I do wonder how much this influences the end result, although my prescription itself isn't especially strong. @thespectaclefactory would appreciate your thoughts on this and the previous persons comment.
The Zeiss measuring system makes so much sense. For years, I've been wondering why we can't utiilze our advanced techonologies to come up with better measurements, even when it comes to the way opticians check your vision. (The "does A look better or does B?" method seems very prone to innacuracy.). I just recently had an optician check my PD for progressive sunglasses. They used three different methods, and they came up with a significanlty different PD than my optometrist did! This makes me wonder how accurate any of my glasses have been, and how much a difference in PD makes. Thanks for the great video.
You're welcome, and thank you for sharing your experience! I agree that it just makes sense. Opticians naturally use equipment to measure your eyes and then just a ruler and a pen to measure for your glasses
@@thespectaclefactory having just bought I pair of XR's (also commented elsewhere in length in a reply on this vid) which I'm already thinking of rejecting, even though I paid for the Essilor machine (which looks inferior to Zeiss), the dispensing optician still put a dot on each lense with a big fat black felt tip which I guess is supposed to represent my pupil. But she only did one measurement albeit 3 times. What about near focus PD? Would the Varilux gadget take care of that? I'm seriously considering the hour drive to Preston and booking an appointment with yourselves.
I always refer to IOT lenses as the thinking man’s lens. It is so customizable, your Optician needs to use their noggin more than a lot of other progressives. The IOT steady on a CAMBER lens blank is IMO, the best progressive on the market today (from the right lab of course).
Hey Robert thanks for all the great information. I purchased my first set of ZEISS smart life progressive lenses with PhotoFusion and BlueGuard. I love them! Thanks again your much appreciated my friend..😊
I have the Essilor XR that are AI optimized. Find it very natural, although they have not the last bit of sharpness. Couldn’t wear Hoya middleclass lenses. Had problems with focusing. I have also middleclass Shamir lenses in my sunglasses. Quite like it, but prefer the Essilor.
Great informative video. I’ve tried the essilor lens and couldn’t get on with them. When I tried the Ziess, and I’m now on my 4th set, from individual, individual 2 and thanks to yourself the individual 3. As soon as I put that 1st pair on, it was like the difference between HD and 4K vision. I personally wouldn’t go with any other lens now. Hope to be arranging another visit to yourselves for my wife and I soon. The last two pairs you made for me are just amazing. They genuinely give the best vision I’ve ever had . 👍
My appointment with you is in 3 weeks, looking forward to it. One pair of eyewear will possibly be progressive lenses for use working at a screen most of the day. How I've put up with purchasing online and high street glasses for so long, I don't know.
Thanks for this overview. Confirms my personal experience with Zeiss lenses as the best value (i.e., performance & quality - including coatings - justifying the higher cost). I was born with bad eyesight, with significant spherical aberration in my right eye, so have been wearing glasses since the age of 3 ... "NHS Kid" LOL. Obviously my case is not average, but what you say about lenses, use case and user experience makes sense to me, so I have no criticisms, just thanks for sharing your expertise.
A very interesting video. It is great to learn something about the lens out there. I know some people who go to a high street optician and get the cheapest frames and lens. Yet, eyes are so important, it's worth spending more and get quality. People need to do some research.
I like Zeiss lenses but sadly in the U.S. it's very hard to find any optician that has a relationship with them. Almost every optical place I have been to says "oh we can get any brand of lens you want EXCEPT Zeiss. And even the places I have been to that can get them by tracking them down through the Zeiss website, when I go in person and ask for Zeiss, they say "oh you don't really need those". I don't get it, is there some kickback they are getting from the other brands? Not sure why they are so resistant.
Well let me tell you why. You are going to get honest feedback about Zeiss. Zeiss makes excellent lenses but Zeiss US is not what opticians want to deal with unless customer forces them. Why ?1) Constant rework by Zeiss US lab(s). Be prepared to have your glasses remade a few times especially so if you want PhotoFusion + tint + flash. If you are in the business to make money, why would you want to do it to yourself? And no, lenses have to be made by in the US due to strict import restrictions on finished lenses. You just can't import lenses from Zeiss Europe. It is illegal, really. 2) Lack of communication between the Zeiss rep, the lab and optician. Hence, hard to provide any timelines to customers when you are kept in the dark yourself. (Some opticians call it being lied to...) 3) All the jobs must go through Zeiss own US lab. Talk about monopoly:) The independent labs just don't have access to Zeiss tech anymore and this consolidation happened about 4 years ago. Trust me this had made many labs very unhappy with Zeiss when all the production was consolidated in the Zeiss own US lab. This restriction doesn't exist with Verilux or Shamir and any independent lab can make them. 4) Alternatives are very strong. So overall many opticians and independent doctors of optometry just prefer dealing with Verilux XR and Shamir WorkSpace and consider them to be the best branded lenses currently available on the market in the US.
@@natureins4644 I'll try and give you some other thoughts on what you have said here: #1. I'm actually not sure what you are talking about here about remakes? But I'll tell you Most labs in the US wont do a Photochromic + Tint + Flash Mirror. Zeiss is one of the few that WILL tint a Photochromic however. (you just can't add a mirror as well) #2 Communication should be fine, what are you specifically refereeing to? you can call customer Service, the Rep, or the regional manager, everyone should be able to help you out. #3 This is true, you can only order a Zeiss Lens from a Zeiss lab in the US. This is mostly due to the shift in the marketplace specifically in the US where EssilorLuxottica is too dominant. Most labs are producing Essilor lenses (or any of their owned subsidiaries) So the quality and time of delivery was in jeopardy. Zeiss felt the need to restrict production to assure the brand and quality was protected. It's not a big deal to simply open an account with Zeiss so you can order ZEISS lenses. #4. There's very few choices left for Opthalmic lenses, basically Essilor, Zeiss, or Hoya. There's really only 1 Alternative, and that's EssilorLuxottica, and Essilor is something like 80% of the US market. If you look at EssilorLuxottica holdings, it's much more than just lenses, it's not the 4th largest medical company in the world.(retail stores, online outfits, insurance company, etc.) Quite honestly, it's a threat to the industry (becoming a monopoly). It's good to purchase from Zeiss or Hoya, simply to help balance the scales.
Go to a private optometrist, they usually can order any lens because they deal with local laboratories that have access to multiple lens manufacturers...unless they've been bought up and shut down by Essilor. When you find a place that offers Zeiss, bring your checkbooks...wuality comes with a price.
If we consider that the best progressive lenses are the most personalised, then Varilux XR are the best. In addition to greater customisation, they also have the best equipment for taking measurements. I must say that the most important thing is the training of the technicians to carry out the tasks.
@@thespectaclefactory They are devices with different purposes. Visufit aims to take measurements and facilitate obtaining measurements, while iscription is diagnostic equipment. In relation to Visufit, I think it is more focused on creating a remarkable experience in the sales process and is therefore less focused on obtaining measurements. On the other hand, visioffice, through H3D and NVB technologies, among others, can obtain highly accurate measurements. That’s my opinion working with them.
I got a question, I’d like to know which are the best progressive lenses for pilots. I’ve been wearing Varilux lenses for about 8 years and they’re very comfortable for flying, but in your opinion I’d like to know if there’s a better kind. When you’re a commercial pilot you have to look to your instruments, check at your copilot’s instruments, see the overhead panel, look at your iPad , look at the pedestal, at the main panel and also at the exterior to look for the runway, or while flying to look for other planes in the area. So you must have a lot of different focus needs. So I’d like to have your very professional opinion about my question. Thanks a lot for your help and best regards.
None of the standard progressives are best. You need a pilots progressive which has near vision at the bottom and top of the lens. We can design one for you
Thanks so much. My only problem is that I live in Mexico City. I would really love if I could have a pair of progressive glasses for my own necessities made specially by you. It’d be awesome.
Several high-end local eye wear retailers have said similar things about Zeiss. I'm curious your comments about this sentiment. Specifically, they say the Zeiss design is the best, then they go on to say Zeiss has recently transformed their method of manufacturing, and essentially licensed a broad swath of local labs to do the lens making. In the process, the quality of the lens varies a lot based on which lab does the manufacturing of the lens. In my case, I'm told the lab used locally for all Zeiss lens making is putting out inconsistent and often poor quality lenses. I'd love you hear your comments about this - specifically if Zeiss has indeed changed and outsourced via license the manufacturing to labs that are not controlled by Zeiss directly.
Yes, that's true but only in the US. That's why so many of our clients are American, since they can get Zeiss lenses through us from the original German lab
I got into an argument with a fellow on the Internet (Reddit) where they said all those labs, mostly operating in the USA (basically, your Zeiss lenses are from a lab when they are not made in Germany) are bound to make all their lenses within 99% of the originals' quality. It left me on an "hmmm" state; but I wish that be the case, and maybe it is. But maybe it is not. (Parenthetically: I wonder what keeps Zeiss from shipping their own lenses to the USA... since, for instance, if you buy Zeiss in Indonesia it will be the Made in Germany ones).
I noticed that too, however I wish they would stop trying to use those color filters or LUTs in editing to stylize the videos. Makes it hard to see the real colors of frames and tints he shows a lot on that channel.
I wonder if SmartLife without paying an extra for the Individual lens (I think "Individual" is what they call FreeForm in Europe) can really make sense. I believe having the VisuoFit measurements input in the making of one's lenses means choosing Individual - with the lofty costs it entails.
Thank you for all the didactic videos you make about glasses. I like your approach between modernity and craftsmanship and the fact you are scrupulous. I was wondering, in your opinion, what is the best proximity/computer lens and are these kind of lens customisable by machine like the fully progressive ones ? Thank you.
The Zeiss ones are great once you add with the coatings and tints you can customise them with, but in my opinion the best standard Office lenses are probably Hoya.
LensCrafters has just introduced the LC adaptive and adaptive core that takes customized position of wear measurements for reading distance and does eye rotation center, takes into account panto, wrap and vertex. Great in theory but I'm still not ordering a ton of them due to some stupid decisions that have been made to their ordering and remake process. We'll see if the company hammers those out.
Fantastic, thank you. Very informative. Zeiss drivesafe are good, so bet smartlife are excellent. Visio 1000 seems great for getting them ,spot on. Thank you.
It’s all great but one thing to mention eye sight is not fixed so you might have to spend that £1k regularly on spec upgrade to these lines so in long run cost could be a factor for many!
I wonder what your opinion is of the Shamir Spark Mi Up digital measurement device. We use it at the optical I work at and I don't find it be very accurate and end up measuring twice with a AR Pen/PD Stick and getting a much more accurate measurement when averaging the two.
Superb video! Thanks so much. Could you do a similar video for anti glare coatings? I find that anti glare coatings always have an unfortunate color tint to the vision especially in outdoor daylight. Do any brands avoid this? Thanks!!! (Ps: not seeking to block blue light or any color really)
I have been wearing Essilor Physio lenses since when I first needed varifocals. I think I'm now up to the 4th (ever changing) prescription with the same design, that works very well for me. Pretty much instant adaptation with no swim. Saw no difference between lenses measured by a machine or more primitive means such as "by hand" or using a simple tablet. In fact the only time it did not work, was when new lenses were fitted to an secondary old pair of spectacles and measured by a machine. Despite several verifications, new measurements and lens changes, it was always inconfortable to wear and made my head hurt. The same optician also made me a pair of the same model of lenses on a new pair and it was perfect... Very strange.
Hi Robert, I really enjoy your videos. I am currently wearing Verilux and am considering filling some older frames with Kirkland Signature HD progressive lenses. They are available at Costco here in the U.S. for much less than I am used to paying and I'm told they are made by Hoya. Do you have any knowledge or experience or opinions with these lenses? Thank you and keep the great videos coming.
It would be useful to delve a bit deeper into the subject, apart from presentations from advertising brochures, but I understand that you are addressing the subject to potential customers 😊. You did not mention the most important thing, that the larger the addition becomes (difference between near and far), the more the progression channel narrows. And this limitation (and the transition itself) makes them unsuitable for working with a computer at some point.
I have mentioned that in a prior video. I could talk for an hour or two on the subject but it's necessary to truncate things to some degree. I try to find the right balance
I had a new glasses prescription around a year ago, when they did the eye test, they suggested I get multi focal lenses, so not being very knowledgeable about glasses and vision terminology in general I agreed to try them. (I'm not sure if they're multi focals or progressives). I have no idea what brand these lenses are (I'm in Australia) but when the glasses arrived they were mostly really blurry, there are two very small sections of the lenses that I can see clearly through. Considering how thorough the test was, I felt confused about how they could get these lenses so bad. I took them back twice and both times they told me there were other options but to let my eyes get used to them first. I know from previous experience that it takes time to get used to new lenses but these things are horrible, very frustrating. I went back to wearing my old glasses I haven't been back to the optometrist as yet.
Is there any empirical or objective way to demonstrate comparative performance between different lenses to the same prescription, with a UI that clearly demonstrates this? Just that cost doesn’t always indicate best outcome, and there is a substantial difference cost of progressive lenses. I really think your channel is unique and very informative, superb presentation skills make a seemingly dry boring subject interesting and enjoyable, thanks.
Because of the influence of our brain and psychology on vision, wearer trials are the only way. Correcting the eye is easy. Dealing with people's preferences is more the challenge
Curious if you have any personal experience, or you used it with your own patients, with the Verilux XR or Shamir WorkSpace lenses that you just reviewed?
Hi Robert, I've followed you religiously for about a year as I've been struggling with my vision. Great Info! Cut to the chase, I have Strabismus causing my double vision. It's vertical separation of images and it requires 3 prisms per side to close the gap and give me just one image. Can you recommend Zies progressives made with the prisms or is that getting to complicated? Thanks for your educated opinion. Sean
@@thespectaclefactory wow! thanks for your reply! got to love the technology, right? the plot thickens on my story, any chance we can speak? Got WhatsApp? Sean
The best thing is to email for a consultation via hello@thespectaclefactory.com, but at the moment I'm very sorry, it's a bit of a wait for a reply as I can only respond to so many per day. We can talk over video call but it'll be around February time.
What people dont know is that it depends on the follow through when it comes to the labs. We dropped zeiss when they consistently messed up our orders and didnt credit us for things they agreed on
I USED TO wear progressives for 10 years. Abandoned them for trifocals. Immediately found that my dull headaches disappeared. I appreciated getting back my edge-to-edge clarity, which made driving safer. Trifocals aren't perfect, but I still prefer them to progressives.
How long ago was that? They are continually improving so it might be worth giving them a try again at some point. Although I love making trifocals for people
@thespectaclefactory I dislike the focus corridor of progressives. I am curious if this drawback will be completely eliminated in the future. Until then, segmented lenses will be my choice. Good to know that you still keep your skills sharp in the older optics!
Hello robert, have you ever tried Gold & Wood frames? They have wooden and horn frames priced less than cartier, I also heard that they make the wood for cartier frames, what do you think?
wondering you have have a recommendation on best lens to pistol shooting. I have such a hard time seeing front sight and am raising and lowering my head to TRY to find the clearest area. its a frustrating issue in this sport.
What are digital progressive lenses? I have zeiss drivesafe but the corridor for looking at the satnav (which is quite low in the dashboard) is tiny. Would digital progressives increase this corridor?
Hi Robert, thank you so much for all your informative videos. My insurance provider allows for Zeiss lenses.. "NL Trivex Experience 4K". Even though I believe they are not top tier level of the Zeiss line are they worth using since they are the tier my insurance will allow? Thanks for your advice in advance.
Could you explain for me,, customers having difficult while looking at mobile can some curve. Even computer monitor also same issue ,, pd and fh are perfect ,, hoya my style lens ,, thanks .,
is zeiss smart life individual 3 lenses 1.53 trivex good for progressive prescription L -2 +1.25 R -2 + 1 A good option .or shoukd i opt for high index 1.67 .. what will give me lesser peripheral distortion .i wear my glasses all day
I have tried both Zeiss (fitted with Visufit 1000) and Essilor and HATED them - I simply couldn't accept the compromised vision - it just annoyed me constantly. They weren't suitable for work (dual monitor setup), didn't like driving in them (reduced FOV), definitely couldn't play golf in them, and didn't even like watching TV with them so binned them off. I do wonder if I had bad fittings / poor frame choice but IMHO the negatives of the tech seem to outweigh the positives despite bold claims by the lens manufacturers. The sun clip on your Computer glasses video does intrigue me... Am I understanding I could have my ADD power on the clip so my distance glasses can be simply converted to my computer glasses?
Yes, that's correct about the clip. If you watched the video, I mentioned specifically that even the 'best' lenses don't have 100% acceptance rate. But yes, it's more likely the lens alignment or prescription was off.
Always outstanding content, Robert. I realize how incredibly lucky your customers are to have access to you and your knowledge. I live in the Seattle area of the US. You’d think with all of the tech companies based here we would have access to some of the tools you use. Sadly we do not. For the few Opticians that do use more advanced tech, they do not take insurance. I’ve been wearing progressive lenses for five years. I currently have a pair of Hoya lenses this is what Costco offers ($140 USD). I have a pair of Essilor XR lenses ($360 USD after insurance) from my eye doctor’s optical shop. I’d love to try a pair of Zeiss progressive lenses, but the price is around $400 USD in my area. That is before any special coatings or flash treatments, if I wanted them.
@@thespectaclefactory Will these lenses help vision if one has this? Desperately trying to help my son. He is unable to use scleral lens. Also do these help with strabismus? Thank you!
I have essilor eyezen "digital" lenses that are/were great to me. I got them 5 years ago. Now I am in my 40s and everyone is telling me I have to switch to progressive because of my age. Why is that? What is the difference? I have +1 with 0.4 boost.
What about Office Progressives? A friend has has a pair so he can see his computer screen an about 12 feet beyond that. Not the same as computer progressives.
The Alba is rimless so yes you can play with the lens shape. You just need to find a lens shape that you want to use and works with how the frame connects to the lens.
Hi there, On what info do you base your review? The marketing claims from each lens producer or what? It seems like you're a fan of Hoya and the German brands, but in reality (objective test) they are trash? I've personally compared the topography of PAL lenses with the same prescription and "class" of PAL lenses from the different manufacturers and I can tell you, Essilor has by far larger viewing zones. And Zeiss is the worst, in terms of coating and etc. Try to be objective, otherwise you're just advertizing the brands you work with ;)
I honestly dont understand why you keep signaling out IOT for the fact that it licenses their designs to other labs... Literally every other brand you mentioned, Zeiss among them does the exact same thing (only Hoya doesn't do it as far as i know). So if the lab is subpar for any of them, the lens would be subpar as well... A more accurate and objective comparison would be to assume the same quality lab making all designs and judge the merits of the lens. Fun fact, Zeiss is licensed to a local manufacturer here in the Middle East (yes, the entire region) and they are FAR from the best quality lenses..
IOT has none of its own manufacturing. All the other brands actually make their own lenses (and may also license them out, but it's possible to source them from the original factories)
Unfortunately you can't source directly from Zeiss if they already have a licensing agreement with a lab in the area... They force you to go through their partner. Same holds for the other brands. I'm curious to get your thoughts on the below scenario: Assuming you are sourcing your Zeiss lenses from Germany and also getting your IOT from an equally good lab from Germany, would you change your ratings at all?
@@thespectaclefactory People run their cars on Asda fuel. I tried Asda diesel just once and my car sounded like a sack of spanners. I am a Zeiss fan. Recently picked up my latest pair from an independent lab. The results are superb as always. Lots of high street labs don't work to particularly tight tolerances. I have a -2.00 cyl in my right eye, Working this in with +2.25 PA, pupil convergence etc. takes some care.
@@thespectaclefactoryplease don't make stuff up, Nikon is owner its optical line, R&D is a technical partnership Zeiss is very good at marketing and people should be aware that Nikon is its competitor in the top tier
EssilorLuxottica does concider Nikon Lenswear part of it’s Group and distributes it worldwide (BBGR also). Especially after they started buying shares (5.1%) in Nikon Corporation.
I recently transitioned from cheap bi-focal lenses to Zeiss progressives and what a world of difference. I had a hard time deciding what frames I wanted, so I purchased a pair of Cartier rimless and a pair of Cazal gold plated titanium frames. I found an excellent optician at Optical Universe in Tarzana, CA who devoted a lot of time to ensuring I had the best lenses and frames for my facial structure and needs. I do, however, owe it all to you Robert for your excellent videos and insights. You inspired me to take the plunge on high end eyewear and I’m very grateful. At 65, I see better than ever.
I’m fortunate to live very close to this optician, but for those who don’t, let Robert create a masterpiece for you, you’ll be happy you did.
I'm really happy for you, and proud to have inspired you. Thanks for the lovely comment; it's much appreciated.
I have worn progressive lens for many years. Your video Robert was still very informative and clearly describes the quality of lens providers. Thanks again for taking eyecare to the next level!
My pleasure! Thanks for commenting and for all your support
In 20 years of wearing progressive lenses, I’ve never thought to ask, and never been told, what make of lenses I was being offered (until now)
I was asked if I want basic, quite good or excellent lenses, and like most people (I guess), I chose excellent.
It’s an important purchase, so it should be made compulsory for all opticians to make that clearer to consumers. (If it isn’t already)
Interesting subject, thanks for the information. 👍
I 100% agree. I've said before our industry profits from consumers being kept in the dark, and that's why I created this channel
Beeing an optician myself i can tell you that it is really tough to provide all the information that would be relevant in a reasonable timeframe. Most customers cant even follow if youre just dumping all that info on them. A youtube video contains much more than what you could deliver personally. I still think that its unfair that people are usually are left in the dark, but from experience i know that most people would lack the stamina to sit through that amount of just explaining with far less visual presentation
@@lemonice2885 that’s true for many people I’m sure, because most are unaware what the options are, and if you told them they’d probably still ask “what do you recommend?”
Glasses are sold like an item of clothing in most Opticians, “that suits you, and is a good fit”… but in reality they are more like a prosthetic for your most important sense (your eyesight).
well. The reality of this is that how you get fitted for the glasses and how you glasses and frames are adjusted including post purchase service matter 85%. The rest, 15% is lens dependent, and very similar outcomes can be achieved with either IOT, Zeiss, Verilux or Shamir. For some challenging prescriptions there are corner cases due to optics where optician may prefer e.g. Rodenstock. Opticians have the education and training to make that choice. You just need to do you research and pick the one who is trustworthy and will do what's the best for you.
@@agnesolsvik I totally agree.
Luckily I’m in the UK, so it was possible for me to visit The Spectacle Factory, and it was a very different experience than any other Optician I’ve ever been to.
Robert & all the staff there were great.
As a french optician, lots of clients complain about our change from Essilor to Zeiss, you re right, Essilor has the best marketing ! Thank you for all your content which is a pleasure to follow, greating from France
Last summer, I visited Paris from the US for vacation. I found a pair of BEAUTIFUL frames, and I could not find ANY ONE who sold Zeiss lenses--which I consider to be the best, too. I have owned some Essilor lenses, including the X lens, but it just does not compare to the Zeiss progressive. To me, the closest thing is the Shamir Intelligence (is that the right name?). But even here in the United States, 9 places out of 10 are Essilor, not Zeiss. And unfortunately, Zeiss has horrible customer service in the US, and they are difficult to communicate with (according to labs and opticians). That's unfortunate, because the lenses are tres tres bonne.
When you have less *****ity, you easily both become dominant in the market _and_ abuse that position to grow yourself into a monopoly.
At that point, most shops will sell your products - and it becomes quite easy to... persuade them to sell your brand exclusively.
As well as "having the best marketing".
It's a market-uglifying self-feeding cycle. Hard to break it.
We can do our part "advertising" the truth of the various matters.
Les Zeiss coûtent combien plus cher que les Essilor pour une correction identique ?
I got Zeiss lenses from Robert. The best lenses I ever had. Thanks Robert!
Thanks for putting your trust in us
IOT Camber and Endless steady are really great lenses and we have tremendous success with it. But strongly agree with you that your lab should be on par with the manufacturing of the product.
Glad you agree. I've worked with IOT for many, many years but starting to use them more now
Hi Robert - LOVE the channel, thank you so much for all your content. And thank you for finally doing this particular video.
Here is my experience with Varilux and PLEASE comment. Three years ago I upgraded to Varilux X series from a brand I don't know the name of because I purchased them from a Warby Parker type store called Eyebobs (I am in the USA, a New Yorker). They were terrible or at least realized so after getting the Varilux. I paired them with Lindberg frameless and they were heavenly. Fast forward to just a few weeks ago. It was time to change the lenses because my Rx had slightly changed. Just the near/reading zone, nothing else. I again ordered Varilux X and when I got them they were the polar opposite of the previous ones, three years prior.
The former had NO distortion, all zones were beautifully blended with seamless transitioning from one zone to the next, there was no defined "corridor". All zones were smooth and seamless from one to the other, side to side, top to bottom. All zones were in focus, sharp and clear. I didn't have to move my head. I can move my eyes "around the clock" and everywhere in between and everything was in focus - far, intermediate, and near, edge to edge of the lens. There are no distortions anywhere. It was truly amazing.
The latter - there was a strict corridor and extremely narrow at that, maybe 3-6mm, and the regions opposing the corridor were terribly out of focus/blurry, right up against the corridor, no smooth transition. They took up too much of the lens area. Also, the bottom edge of the near sight region failed to be in focus/clear when looking down while walking. I had to bring my chin to my chest for it to be in focus. Sharp vision was not "instant". There was no "wide field of vision". My vision was never "stable". There were no "smooth transitions", all the zones were just short of a hard line of separation (like old school bi-focals). I was continuously moving my head, as opposed to me simply and more naturally my eyes, to get whatever I want to look at INTO the zone required. All of these faults were counter to what the X series promises, those in quotations above..
After a failed attempt to recut another pair my optician then offered to have me try the new XR series. The difference(s) was negligible, with almost no discernible change with the field edge to edge, same as above really. They did however give me plenty of eye strain which could not be overcome. I kept reaching for the old original pair for relief.
We finally decided to go to the Shamir Autograph. They aren't as good as the original Varilux X but pretty darn close, and less expensive. As for troubleshooting - we both thought that because the original lenses on the Lindbergs were slightly curved, where the new ones were almost flat (on MODOs), it may have played a part in being so flawless. My optician tried to recut lenses on a 2nd try (the failed attempt) but was told it was not possible (for whatever reason). After two tries with the X series and one on the XR we resigned to the possibility that the originals were just a fluke, a one off perfect "storm".
I am happy with the Shamir lenses, especially because they are $200 cheaper with little discernible difference. I may try Zeiss in the future. But at $950 a pop for the Varilux and Zeiss being comparable (I believe) it's hard to justify the added cost for so little advantage. I don't know. I'm very saddened of not knowing what to expect at such a high cost, and having forced to live with it because of said cost.
Any thoughts Robert? Any similar experience? Any science you are aware of?
Thank you,
Ari
Yes: when you move into "biometric" lens territory, the return-of-investment on your customer end drops sharply.
You pay a lot for a little.
On the other hand, choosing great, non-individual lenses is worth it 100%, and a great investment for everyone, whilst I'd leave the biometric-individual territory to people who can afford a lot.
Used Specsavers in Dublin for years. 2 of last 3 set of eyeglasses have been horrendous! Ssssooooo thankful for this insightful video!!
Glad it was helpful! We have lots of clients in Dublin 👍
Thank you so much for explaining the concepts and developments. I had my first verifocals in 2005 and knew very little about them. The optician advised Essilor Verilux (I think they were Panimic), and they felt comfortable immediately. In 2011, a different optician recommended Rodenstock progressive lenses, they were terrible and I had to ask them to change them to Essilor (Physio 2.0 at the time), which were again excellent. Over the next few years, I had Essilor Varilux and they always felt comfortable.
In May this year (2024), the opticians recommended Hoya MyStyle V+, the latest 'best' progressive Hoya offer. I have struggled with these lenses, particularly computer screen and phone/tablet just not being "crisp", so my eyes constantly work hard to maintain focus. I feel the strain, and get sore eyes. I visited the opticians today and they recommended going back to Essilor, either Physio or XR, I have not decided yet. Any thoughts highly appreciated.
I've just got a pair of Varilux XR series on Saturday. I've got 80 days to get used to them. These are the second pair of progressives I've tried. I previously tried the best Zeiss progressives two years ago but rejected them after about a month and went back to single vision. So far I have to say I'm disappointed in my XR (to the point I feel I've been mis-sold) and don't think I'll need another 75 days to know what I already know: that there not right for me. Memory is a funny thing; I'm feeling like the XR's are no better and possibly worse than the Zeiss I rejected but as I rejected them I can't do a comparison.
I'm feeling like I need to take a trip to Preston to see a chap who seems to know what he's talking about. I feel like for my job - working in front of a 27" computer screen up to 12 hours a day - an occupational lens is the way to go.
Interesting the XR's so far have performed best when driving, even at night. The distortion field feels much worse than marketed and I have to turn my head to view the computer monitor and for reading they are just awful - the distortion field seems like it's from a cheap progressive. I do have an astigmatism in both eyes and I do wonder how much this influences the end result, although my prescription itself isn't especially strong.
@thespectaclefactory would appreciate your thoughts on this and the previous persons comment.
Hoyalux iD LifeStyle 4i should do the work to get the real Hoya experience.
MyStyle V+ is an older design that might be discontinued.
Really appreciate how you break things down
Thank you! 🙏
The Zeiss measuring system makes so much sense. For years, I've been wondering why we can't utiilze our advanced techonologies to come up with better measurements, even when it comes to the way opticians check your vision. (The "does A look better or does B?" method seems very prone to innacuracy.). I just recently had an optician check my PD for progressive sunglasses. They used three different methods, and they came up with a significanlty different PD than my optometrist did! This makes me wonder how accurate any of my glasses have been, and how much a difference in PD makes. Thanks for the great video.
You're welcome, and thank you for sharing your experience! I agree that it just makes sense. Opticians naturally use equipment to measure your eyes and then just a ruler and a pen to measure for your glasses
@@thespectaclefactory having just bought I pair of XR's (also commented elsewhere in length in a reply on this vid) which I'm already thinking of rejecting, even though I paid for the Essilor machine (which looks inferior to Zeiss), the dispensing optician still put a dot on each lense with a big fat black felt tip which I guess is supposed to represent my pupil. But she only did one measurement albeit 3 times. What about near focus PD? Would the Varilux gadget take care of that?
I'm seriously considering the hour drive to Preston and booking an appointment with yourselves.
I always refer to IOT lenses as the thinking man’s lens. It is so customizable, your Optician needs to use their noggin more than a lot of other progressives. The IOT steady on a CAMBER lens blank is IMO, the best progressive on the market today (from the right lab of course).
Hey Robert thanks for all the great information. I purchased my first set of ZEISS smart life progressive lenses with PhotoFusion and BlueGuard. I love them! Thanks again your much appreciated my friend..😊
Really glad to have inspired you! Enjoy 😁
I have the Essilor XR that are AI optimized. Find it very natural, although they have not the last bit of sharpness. Couldn’t wear Hoya middleclass lenses. Had problems with focusing. I have also middleclass Shamir lenses in my sunglasses. Quite like it, but prefer the Essilor.
Thank you for sharing!
Amazing video. So comprehensive and educational. Zeiss’s manifesto is impressive and meaningful to me.
Same! Thank you 😁
Great informative video. I’ve tried the essilor lens and couldn’t get on with them. When I tried the Ziess, and I’m now on my 4th set, from individual, individual 2 and thanks to yourself the individual 3. As soon as I put that 1st pair on, it was like the difference between HD and 4K vision. I personally wouldn’t go with any other lens now. Hope to be arranging another visit to yourselves for my wife and I soon. The last two pairs you made for me are just amazing. They genuinely give the best vision I’ve ever had . 👍
So glad to hear that, and look forward to seeing you soon! Thank you for sharing.
My appointment with you is in 3 weeks, looking forward to it. One pair of eyewear will possibly be progressive lenses for use working at a screen most of the day. How I've put up with purchasing online and high street glasses for so long, I don't know.
I look forward to meeting you!
Thanks for this overview. Confirms my personal experience with Zeiss lenses as the best value (i.e., performance & quality - including coatings - justifying the higher cost). I was born with bad eyesight, with significant spherical aberration in my right eye, so have been wearing glasses since the age of 3 ... "NHS Kid" LOL. Obviously my case is not average, but what you say about lenses, use case and user experience makes sense to me, so I have no criticisms, just thanks for sharing your expertise.
A very interesting video. It is great to learn something about the lens out there. I know some people who go to a high street optician and get the cheapest frames and lens. Yet, eyes are so important, it's worth spending more and get quality. People need to do some research.
What's even stranger are those who spend so much on frames but want the cheapest lenses?!
Excellent presentation as I’ve come to expect from you.
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Very informative. Thank you.
You're welcome!
I like Zeiss lenses but sadly in the U.S. it's very hard to find any optician that has a relationship with them. Almost every optical place I have been to says "oh we can get any brand of lens you want EXCEPT Zeiss. And even the places I have been to that can get them by tracking them down through the Zeiss website, when I go in person and ask for Zeiss, they say "oh you don't really need those". I don't get it, is there some kickback they are getting from the other brands? Not sure why they are so resistant.
That's a shame, but we have thousands of US clients who order their made-in-Germany Zeiss lenses from us, even if they can get them locally...
And yes, Essilor in particular incentivizes stores to sell their products, or makes them preferential based on your health insurance
Well let me tell you why. You are going to get honest feedback about Zeiss. Zeiss makes excellent lenses but Zeiss US is not what opticians want to deal with unless customer forces them. Why ?1) Constant rework by Zeiss US lab(s). Be prepared to have your glasses remade a few times especially so if you want PhotoFusion + tint + flash. If you are in the business to make money, why would you want to do it to yourself? And no, lenses have to be made by in the US due to strict import restrictions on finished lenses. You just can't import lenses from Zeiss Europe. It is illegal, really. 2) Lack of communication between the Zeiss rep, the lab and optician. Hence, hard to provide any timelines to customers when you are kept in the dark yourself. (Some opticians call it being lied to...) 3) All the jobs must go through Zeiss own US lab. Talk about monopoly:) The independent labs just don't have access to Zeiss tech anymore and this consolidation happened about 4 years ago. Trust me this had made many labs very unhappy with Zeiss when all the production was consolidated in the Zeiss own US lab. This restriction doesn't exist with Verilux or Shamir and any independent lab can make them. 4) Alternatives are very strong. So overall many opticians and independent doctors of optometry just prefer dealing with Verilux XR and Shamir WorkSpace and consider them to be the best branded lenses currently available on the market in the US.
@@natureins4644 I'll try and give you some other thoughts on what you have said here:
#1. I'm actually not sure what you are talking about here about remakes? But I'll tell you Most labs in the US wont do a Photochromic + Tint + Flash Mirror. Zeiss is one of the few that WILL tint a Photochromic however. (you just can't add a mirror as well)
#2 Communication should be fine, what are you specifically refereeing to? you can call customer Service, the Rep, or the regional manager, everyone should be able to help you out.
#3 This is true, you can only order a Zeiss Lens from a Zeiss lab in the US. This is mostly due to the shift in the marketplace specifically in the US where EssilorLuxottica is too dominant. Most labs are producing Essilor lenses (or any of their owned subsidiaries) So the quality and time of delivery was in jeopardy. Zeiss felt the need to restrict production to assure the brand and quality was protected. It's not a big deal to simply open an account with Zeiss so you can order ZEISS lenses.
#4. There's very few choices left for Opthalmic lenses, basically Essilor, Zeiss, or Hoya. There's really only 1 Alternative, and that's EssilorLuxottica, and Essilor is something like 80% of the US market. If you look at EssilorLuxottica holdings, it's much more than just lenses, it's not the 4th largest medical company in the world.(retail stores, online outfits, insurance company, etc.) Quite honestly, it's a threat to the industry (becoming a monopoly). It's good to purchase from Zeiss or Hoya, simply to help balance the scales.
Go to a private optometrist, they usually can order any lens because they deal with local laboratories that have access to multiple lens manufacturers...unless they've been bought up and shut down by Essilor. When you find a place that offers Zeiss, bring your checkbooks...wuality comes with a price.
If we consider that the best progressive lenses are the most personalised, then Varilux XR are the best. In addition to greater customisation, they also have the best equipment for taking measurements. I must say that the most important thing is the training of the technicians to carry out the tasks.
Really? Better than the Zeiss VisuFit? And what's their equivalent of the i.Profiler?
You are totally right!
@@thespectaclefactory They are devices with different purposes. Visufit aims to take measurements and facilitate obtaining measurements, while iscription is diagnostic equipment. In relation to Visufit, I think it is more focused on creating a remarkable experience in the sales process and is therefore less focused on obtaining measurements. On the other hand, visioffice, through H3D and NVB technologies, among others, can obtain highly accurate measurements. That’s my opinion working with them.
I got a question, I’d like to know which are the best progressive lenses for pilots. I’ve been wearing Varilux lenses for about 8 years and they’re very comfortable for flying, but in your opinion I’d like to know if there’s a better kind. When you’re a commercial pilot you have to look to your instruments, check at your copilot’s instruments, see the overhead panel, look at your iPad , look at the pedestal, at the main panel and also at the exterior to look for the runway, or while flying to look for other planes in the area. So you must have a lot of different focus needs. So I’d like to have your very professional opinion about my question. Thanks a lot for your help and best regards.
None of the standard progressives are best. You need a pilots progressive which has near vision at the bottom and top of the lens. We can design one for you
Thanks so much. My only problem is that I live in Mexico City. I would really love if I could have a pair of progressive glasses for my own necessities made specially by you. It’d be awesome.
Nikon's top progressive lenses are called the Seemax Ultimate and their series of occupational lenses are called Elife Pro!
Thanks for sharing 👍
Nikon seemax ultimate Z signature.. top of the range
Can you discuss the difference between Zeiss Pure vs Plus vs Superb vs Individual 3? Where does GT2 fit in?
Several high-end local eye wear retailers have said similar things about Zeiss. I'm curious your comments about this sentiment. Specifically, they say the Zeiss design is the best, then they go on to say Zeiss has recently transformed their method of manufacturing, and essentially licensed a broad swath of local labs to do the lens making. In the process, the quality of the lens varies a lot based on which lab does the manufacturing of the lens. In my case, I'm told the lab used locally for all Zeiss lens making is putting out inconsistent and often poor quality lenses. I'd love you hear your comments about this - specifically if Zeiss has indeed changed and outsourced via license the manufacturing to labs that are not controlled by Zeiss directly.
Yes, that's true but only in the US. That's why so many of our clients are American, since they can get Zeiss lenses through us from the original German lab
I've actually discussed this on the channel before. People sometimes don't believe me
I got into an argument with a fellow on the Internet (Reddit) where they said all those labs, mostly operating in the USA (basically, your Zeiss lenses are from a lab when they are not made in Germany) are bound to make all their lenses within 99% of the originals' quality.
It left me on an "hmmm" state; but I wish that be the case, and maybe it is. But maybe it is not.
(Parenthetically: I wonder what keeps Zeiss from shipping their own lenses to the USA... since, for instance, if you buy Zeiss in Indonesia it will be the Made in Germany ones).
Did you get new equipments? The picture quality is so clear
Well spotted! A new Zeiss lens 😉
I noticed that too, however I wish they would stop trying to use those color filters or LUTs in editing to stylize the videos. Makes it hard to see the real colors of frames and tints he shows a lot on that channel.
I wonder if SmartLife without paying an extra for the Individual lens (I think "Individual" is what they call FreeForm in Europe) can really make sense.
I believe having the VisuoFit measurements input in the making of one's lenses means choosing Individual - with the lofty costs it entails.
Thank you for all the didactic videos you make about glasses. I like your approach between modernity and craftsmanship and the fact you are scrupulous. I was wondering, in your opinion, what is the best proximity/computer lens and are these kind of lens customisable by machine like the fully progressive ones ? Thank you.
The Zeiss ones are great once you add with the coatings and tints you can customise them with, but in my opinion the best standard Office lenses are probably Hoya.
@@thespectaclefactory Thanks !
LensCrafters has just introduced the LC adaptive and adaptive core that takes customized position of wear measurements for reading distance and does eye rotation center, takes into account panto, wrap and vertex.
Great in theory but I'm still not ordering a ton of them due to some stupid decisions that have been made to their ordering and remake process. We'll see if the company hammers those out.
Fantastic, thank you. Very informative. Zeiss drivesafe are good, so bet smartlife are excellent. Visio 1000 seems great for getting them ,spot on. Thank you.
Glad it was helpful!
Very interesting and informative.. Quick question: Are you able to use zeiss photofusion x with a flash coating with progressive/varifocal lens?
Yep! We'd love to make them for you
It’s all great but one thing to mention eye sight is not fixed so you might have to spend that £1k regularly on spec upgrade to these lines so in long run cost could be a factor for many!
I’d love to hear your thoughts on Unity lenses
I wonder what your opinion is of the Shamir Spark Mi Up digital measurement device. We use it at the optical I work at and I don't find it be very accurate and end up measuring twice with a AR Pen/PD Stick and getting a much more accurate measurement when averaging the two.
Yeah I'd say it's one of the weaker ones I've seen... good to hear your feedback though
Superb video! Thanks so much. Could you do a similar video for anti glare coatings? I find that anti glare coatings always have an unfortunate color tint to the vision especially in outdoor daylight. Do any brands avoid this? Thanks!!! (Ps: not seeking to block blue light or any color really)
Hi, what do you think about Akila? Do you think they make quality sunglasses?
I have been wearing Essilor Physio lenses since when I first needed varifocals. I think I'm now up to the 4th (ever changing) prescription with the same design, that works very well for me. Pretty much instant adaptation with no swim. Saw no difference between lenses measured by a machine or more primitive means such as "by hand" or using a simple tablet. In fact the only time it did not work, was when new lenses were fitted to an secondary old pair of spectacles and measured by a machine. Despite several verifications, new measurements and lens changes, it was always inconfortable to wear and made my head hurt. The same optician also made me a pair of the same model of lenses on a new pair and it was perfect... Very strange.
Very interesting comparison.
Would you please also cover Trivex lens vis-à-vis with colour customisation and flash coatings etc.
Hi Robert,
I really enjoy your videos.
I am currently wearing Verilux and am considering filling some older frames with Kirkland Signature HD progressive lenses.
They are available at Costco here in the U.S. for much less than I am used to paying and I'm told they are made by Hoya.
Do you have any knowledge or experience or opinions with these lenses? Thank you and keep the great videos coming.
Hoya lenses are generally really good, so long as you're definitely getting Hoya
It would be useful to delve a bit deeper into the subject, apart from presentations from advertising brochures, but I understand that you are addressing the subject to potential customers 😊.
You did not mention the most important thing, that the larger the addition becomes (difference between near and far), the more the progression channel narrows. And this limitation (and the transition itself) makes them unsuitable for working with a computer at some point.
I have mentioned that in a prior video. I could talk for an hour or two on the subject but it's necessary to truncate things to some degree. I try to find the right balance
Zeiss smart life individual 3 are top of the top 🤔
In my opinion, yeah
I had a new glasses prescription around a year ago, when they did the eye test, they suggested I get multi focal lenses, so not being very knowledgeable about glasses and vision terminology in general I agreed to try them. (I'm not sure if they're multi focals or progressives).
I have no idea what brand these lenses are (I'm in Australia) but when the glasses arrived they were mostly really blurry, there are two very small sections of the lenses that I can see clearly through. Considering how thorough the test was, I felt confused about how they could get these lenses so bad.
I took them back twice and both times they told me there were other options but to let my eyes get used to them first. I know from previous experience that it takes time to get used to new lenses but these things are horrible, very frustrating. I went back to wearing my old glasses I haven't been back to the optometrist as yet.
Any experience with the new neuro lenses?
Is there any empirical or objective way to demonstrate comparative performance between different lenses to the same prescription, with a UI that clearly demonstrates this? Just that cost doesn’t always indicate best outcome, and there is a substantial difference cost of progressive lenses. I really think your channel is unique and very informative, superb presentation skills make a seemingly dry boring subject interesting and enjoyable, thanks.
Because of the influence of our brain and psychology on vision, wearer trials are the only way.
Correcting the eye is easy. Dealing with people's preferences is more the challenge
Curious if you have any personal experience, or you used it with your own patients, with the Verilux XR or Shamir WorkSpace lenses that you just reviewed?
Yes, we see clients from all over the world and we work with every lens brand so I have experience with everything discussed here.
Hi Robert, I've followed you religiously for about a year as I've been struggling with my vision. Great Info! Cut to the chase, I have Strabismus causing my double vision. It's vertical separation of images and it requires 3 prisms per side to close the gap and give me just one image. Can you recommend Zies progressives made with the prisms or is that getting to complicated? Thanks for your educated opinion. Sean
No, that's definitely possible! BUT the lenses must be compensated for your prism with the VisuFit 1000. Hope you'll consider visiting us
@@thespectaclefactory wow! thanks for your reply! got to love the technology, right? the plot thickens on my story, any chance we can speak? Got WhatsApp? Sean
The best thing is to email for a consultation via hello@thespectaclefactory.com, but at the moment I'm very sorry, it's a bit of a wait for a reply as I can only respond to so many per day. We can talk over video call but it'll be around February time.
What people dont know is that it depends on the follow through when it comes to the labs. We dropped zeiss when they consistently messed up our orders and didnt credit us for things they agreed on
I USED TO wear progressives for 10 years. Abandoned them for trifocals. Immediately found that my dull headaches disappeared. I appreciated getting back my edge-to-edge clarity, which made driving safer. Trifocals aren't perfect, but I still prefer them to progressives.
How long ago was that? They are continually improving so it might be worth giving them a try again at some point. Although I love making trifocals for people
@thespectaclefactory I dislike the focus corridor of progressives. I am curious if this drawback will be completely eliminated in the future. Until then, segmented lenses will be my choice. Good to know that you still keep your skills sharp in the older optics!
Of course, progressive lenses are no magic bullet when it comes to glasses.
@@thespectaclefactorydid you wear glasses with bi/tri-focal before getting progressive lenses?
@@richardkelly4667its certainly much better now. The best my patients had enjoyed are essilor’s Varilux XR
Hi Robert, do you know LEICA ophthalmic lens is selling in Europe,how do you think about Leica?
Robert, what are your thoughts about Varilux Physio W3 (eyecode) versus the new XR? Are the Physio still a good option if given the choice?
Awesome video!
Is Divel Italia a good brand ?
Do you have any info ?
Thank you! Sorry, but I haven't come across them, yet...
Hello robert, have you ever tried Gold & Wood frames? They have wooden and horn frames priced less than cartier, I also heard that they make the wood for cartier frames, what do you think?
Do you have locations in the USA?
How do you rate the Zeiss smartlife superb against the varilux xr?
Pretty similar. Most people should love both lenses
Do you prefer Zeiss individual than superb?
wondering you have have a recommendation on best lens to pistol shooting. I have such a hard time seeing front sight and am raising and lowering my head to TRY to find the clearest area. its a frustrating issue in this sport.
What are digital progressive lenses? I have zeiss drivesafe but the corridor for looking at the satnav (which is quite low in the dashboard) is tiny. Would digital progressives increase this corridor?
What do you make of Seiko v Esslior v Zeiss?
I feel I get better off center vision with various x vs zeiss smartlife
Love Ziess lenses
Hi Robert, could you please review Novar Technologies?
Hi Robert, do you have any experience or knowledge of the quality of Lensology Omni-Vision HD Varifocal lenses?
Come on, they're a cheap brand. If you want good lenses, come to us.
Hi Robert, thank you so much for all your informative videos. My insurance provider allows for Zeiss lenses.. "NL Trivex Experience 4K". Even though I believe they are not top tier level of the Zeiss line are they worth using since they are the tier my insurance will allow? Thanks for your advice in advance.
I don't know any Zeiss lens with that name, and I believe it's a 'Neurolens' - the evidence for which is quite spurious
Can you review a company called Belvoir & Co. They do a range of rimless glasses. Thanks.
Could you explain for me,, customers having difficult while looking at mobile can some curve. Even computer monitor also same issue ,, pd and fh are perfect ,, hoya my style lens ,, thanks .,
is zeiss smart life individual 3 lenses 1.53 trivex good for progressive prescription L -2 +1.25 R -2 + 1 A good option .or shoukd i opt for high index 1.67 .. what will give me lesser peripheral distortion .i wear my glasses all day
Hoya number one
Definitely one of the best and I have many clients who like Hoya lenses the most
Anyone heard of Marma Supreme Varifocal lenses?
Could you go over the best driving lenses, man? Zeiss, anyone? 😎
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@@thespectaclefactory Thanks, man!
Do you take lenses in old frames we can send in to you? Just found a pair of J.F Reys for a great price and I want to work with you for tints
Yes, we do!
Are Warby Parker lenses any good?!
Slightly above average
I have tried both Zeiss (fitted with Visufit 1000) and Essilor and HATED them - I simply couldn't accept the compromised vision - it just annoyed me constantly. They weren't suitable for work (dual monitor setup), didn't like driving in them (reduced FOV), definitely couldn't play golf in them, and didn't even like watching TV with them so binned them off. I do wonder if I had bad fittings / poor frame choice but IMHO the negatives of the tech seem to outweigh the positives despite bold claims by the lens manufacturers. The sun clip on your Computer glasses video does intrigue me... Am I understanding I could have my ADD power on the clip so my distance glasses can be simply converted to my computer glasses?
Yes, that's correct about the clip.
If you watched the video, I mentioned specifically that even the 'best' lenses don't have 100% acceptance rate. But yes, it's more likely the lens alignment or prescription was off.
Always outstanding content, Robert.
I realize how incredibly lucky your customers are to have access to you and your knowledge.
I live in the Seattle area of the US. You’d think with all of the tech companies based here we would have access to some of the tools you use. Sadly we do not. For the few Opticians that do use more advanced tech, they do not take insurance.
I’ve been wearing progressive lenses for five years. I currently have a pair of Hoya lenses this is what Costco offers ($140 USD). I have a pair of Essilor XR lenses ($360 USD after insurance) from my eye doctor’s optical shop.
I’d love to try a pair of Zeiss progressive lenses, but the price is around $400 USD in my area. That is before any special coatings or flash treatments, if I wanted them.
Thank you. You can't beat Hoya lenses for that price. We also offer them for a a similar price and they are just great
Greetings from the author of the photography, 0:53-0:59
Really? Nice photo thank you!
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Do you have any experience with Kerataconus?
Yes
@@thespectaclefactory Will these lenses help vision if one has this? Desperately trying to help my son. He is unable to use scleral lens. Also do these help with strabismus? Thank you!
What's the difference progressive and trifocals lens
How about Leica ?
I have essilor eyezen "digital" lenses that are/were great to me. I got them 5 years ago. Now I am in my 40s and everyone is telling me I have to switch to progressive because of my age. Why is that? What is the difference? I have +1 with 0.4 boost.
Just because Digital lenses only work up to a certain strength, and I'm guessing you now need more strength for reading
What about Office Progressives? A friend has has a pair so he can see his computer screen an about 12 feet beyond that. Not the same as computer progressives.
I mentioned them both in this video and a recent one
Anybody compared Reykjavik eyes with Marcus T? Not sure which ones to get. Also can you change the lens shape on the reykjavik eyes alba thanks
The Alba is rimless so yes you can play with the lens shape. You just need to find a lens shape that you want to use and works with how the frame connects to the lens.
I have. Markus T are great, close in comfort but definitely not as durable as RE
@@gdarmst0 thats the thing how do you find how a lens specifically connects.
@@thespectaclefactory have you ever seen the alba with round lenses and the crossbar ? thanks
Do you have any go to websites for info? What's the kind of price of two custom lenses? Sorry Sorry for all the questions
Do you make and sell lenses?
Yes, Nikon...i see "well"
Hi Robert - could you possibly offer some insight to my comment (posted separately). Thank you.
Hi there,
On what info do you base your review? The marketing claims from each lens producer or what? It seems like you're a fan of Hoya and the German brands, but in reality (objective test) they are trash? I've personally compared the topography of PAL lenses with the same prescription and "class" of PAL lenses from the different manufacturers and I can tell you, Essilor has by far larger viewing zones. And Zeiss is the worst, in terms of coating and etc.
Try to be objective, otherwise you're just advertizing the brands you work with ;)
Do you wear progressives yet?
I honestly dont understand why you keep signaling out IOT for the fact that it licenses their designs to other labs... Literally every other brand you mentioned, Zeiss among them does the exact same thing (only Hoya doesn't do it as far as i know).
So if the lab is subpar for any of them, the lens would be subpar as well...
A more accurate and objective comparison would be to assume the same quality lab making all designs and judge the merits of the lens.
Fun fact, Zeiss is licensed to a local manufacturer here in the Middle East (yes, the entire region) and they are FAR from the best quality lenses..
IOT has none of its own manufacturing. All the other brands actually make their own lenses (and may also license them out, but it's possible to source them from the original factories)
Unfortunately you can't source directly from Zeiss if they already have a licensing agreement with a lab in the area... They force you to go through their partner. Same holds for the other brands.
I'm curious to get your thoughts on the below scenario:
Assuming you are sourcing your Zeiss lenses from Germany and also getting your IOT from an equally good lab from Germany, would you change your ratings at all?
This is off-topic. But does anyone have an opinion about Akoni frames?
Asda, frames including varifocal lenses, inc coatings, priced complete from about £60/70 - they seem fine.
'Fine', sure, but it's always nice to see better
@@thespectaclefactory People run their cars on Asda fuel. I tried Asda diesel just once and my car sounded like a sack of spanners. I am a Zeiss fan. Recently picked up my latest pair from an independent lab. The results are superb as always. Lots of high street labs don't work to particularly tight tolerances. I have a -2.00 cyl in my right eye, Working this in with +2.25 PA, pupil convergence etc. takes some care.
Nikon owned by essilor, that is a blatant lie.
Its a technical partnership, please stop spreading lies, you will be in court one day soon
So it's partly owned. I don't think I said 'fully owned'. I'm sorry if that's all you took awayfrom this video.
@@thespectaclefactoryplease don't make stuff up, Nikon is owner its optical line, R&D is a technical partnership
Zeiss is very good at marketing and people should be aware that Nikon is its competitor in the top tier
EssilorLuxottica does concider Nikon Lenswear part of it’s Group and distributes it worldwide (BBGR also). Especially after they started buying shares (5.1%) in Nikon Corporation.
Hi Robert - could you possibly offer some insight to my comment (posted separately). Thank you.